technology

[prime jasper]

i have my window open its 45F in here

[blazing quest]

check it again it must be in celsius

[prime jasper]

cpu is at 27.8 C

and if google is correct if my room is 45F it should be 7sihc

7c ish

[red ingot]

Good lord

U monster

Are you like wearing a jacket in your house rn

[prime jasper]

just slippers and a robe

[red ingot]

Damn dude

My house is a nice toasty 23c rn

[prime jasper]

my room gets hot wiht my PC running so i like to have the window s open in here lol

[red ingot]

That's still freaking cold lol

[prime jasper]

to be honest its not too bad lol

i have been in worse lol

[red ingot]

damn

i mean it is kind of your own doing

opening your window..

[prime jasper]

if it drops below freezing and my pc is off i close it to keep it warm, dont want to freeze the water lol

[red ingot]

-.-

how you don't freeze to death is beyond me

[prime jasper]

where are you from?

[red ingot]

im in Canada lol, so a bit ironic

in Ontario

[prime jasper]

lol im just south of you in the states, Indiana

if you were in the southern states i could understand it lol

[red ingot]

im just not a true canadian apparently lol

freaking hate the cold

although snow is nice, i like skiing

[prime jasper]

i guess not eh

[red ingot]

sorry

[prime jasper]

i do the snowboard lol

[red ingot]

now im true Canadian

😄

[prime jasper]

lmfao

[red ingot]

[rose eagle]

i removed a standoff on my board that looked like all the solder dots werent there but no help

audio is dud

[red ingot]

its okay

u buy asus board now

[rose eagle]

besides staging the entire board outside my case for science...

[prime jasper]

im getting my new case on monday

so happy

[red ingot]

nice

what case

[prime jasper]

570x mirror black

i have the black right now, but the mirro black comes with the vertical mount which i have been wanting to do, but the ones i have found i would have to cut the case. and i cannot bring my self to cut such a beautiful case

[red ingot]

lol

my new cpu/motherboard comes within the next week or two hopefully

[prime jasper]

yea

Corsair

[red ingot]

my RAM came the other day and now i'm sad.. it's waiting for the board & CPU

😦

rip

i'd just set it up on my desk

and play

😄

[languid acorn]

My desk is retarded, I need a new one.

[red ingot]

buy one

😄

[prime jasper]

or build one lol

[red ingot]

that requires effort

[prime jasper]

that is true lol

[red ingot]

or buy online, get delivery and installation

literally 0 effort

don't have to go to store to buy, don't have to drive it home, don't have to set it up

[mental hatch]

just play on the carpet no musepad required

[red ingot]

desk*

[mental hatch]

no

carpet

[prime jasper]

i should tape my mouse to the ramba and let it play for a while

[languid acorn]

lmao

[prime jasper]

it will be the Ramba with the Mamba (my razer mouse)

[languid acorn]

lol

[red ingot]

Lol

[languid acorn]

fack

[low bramble]

just bought it, runs smooth at 60 fps 😃

[prime jasper]

the ramba or hte mamba

[languid acorn]

the table, duh

[prime jasper]

lol

[quaint topaz]

Keyboard's coming tomorrow!

[flint locust]

delay incoming

[quaint topaz]

I would be so fucking pissed if they delay this shit again.

They called me to confirm though. From 8 AM - 2 PM

[granite kestrel]

Lemme just delay that shit

[spice flare]

For you guys that stream - what is your opinion on (or experience with) capture cards? I would like to try to stream more, but the performance hit I get with my current setup (8700k /1080/16gb Ram) is a major turnoff. Would a capture card relieve a lot of the performance loss/stress on my system?

I guess I’d have to know whether I am cpu or gpu restricted (bottlenecked)

[prime jasper]

what keyboard you get?

i got the razer ornata. and i took out those silly tabs inside of it that makes it click. super quiet keyboard

[red ingot]

An 8700k and 1080 should be fine

[little jacinth]

can I get some tech support for BF here? Having trouble with my VOIP

[red ingot]

u came to the right place

[little jacinth]

awesome!

So... long story short

For audio source when im not playing, I have 3,5mm from my PC to a receiver. Then i play I use headphones via USB. When someone talks to me over VOIP in game their voice comes out of the speakers from my reciver. WHY? 😦 Same thing in BF1 and on my old PC

[red ingot]

did you set your headphones as the default audio in windows sound settings?

worst case, if that doesn't work, disable the receiver audio in sound settings

it'll force all audio through the headphones then

[little jacinth]

no.. but why is ONLY voip sound coming out that way? All the rest in the headphones... its wierd asf

[red ingot]

i don't know the exact mechanics of it, but essentially by setting one to default it should ensure that that output is prioritized

and if that doesn't work, then disable the other output, and it'll force the audio to play through the only one available

[little jacinth]

yeah, but then I have to change that everytime I gonna play. And it should be like that..

[red ingot]

setting your headphones as default when you plug them in should only make them default device when they're plugged in

when they're unplugged, it should revert back to your speakers

disabling the speakers entirely is only a worst-case workaround

[little jacinth]

If i plug the headphones in now, the settings automaticly sets the headphones as default.

[red ingot]

yet the VOIP audio comes out of your speakers?

[little jacinth]

yes

[red ingot]

all i can suggest then is try disabling the speakers then

other than that i dunno

[little jacinth]

hmm

well thanks tho

[red ingot]

np

someone else here might know something else

[little jacinth]

yeah, I look later after more

[rose eagle]

Nah there's nothing you can do for current BF related issues 😂

My VOIP comes out of nowhere now that I've reformatted, but I haven't looked into it

I'm pretty sure I saw a voip output setting somewhere but away from PC

From @unborn epoch VOIP source is taken from origin settings

Maybe worth a look ;)

I'll def look later on mine

[sharp birch]

Hey guys I'm having trouble joining servers, it says I was disconnected because my latency is too high but I checked and it's 50ms

[misty marlin]

how do i register in this discord? or how do i put "[NA]" in my discord names

[flint locust]

right click your name and change your nickname

@misty marlin

[misty marlin]

yea i figured it out, I thought the role thing would auto update... thank u anyway

[flint locust]

nah the roles don't change your nickname

[gaunt dragon]

I responded too it, but I deleted my comment, as it doesn't really pretain to this channel, so I thought I'd be 🍌

[red ingot]

[scenic gorge]

Is nick still muted?

[red ingot]

Yeah

:(

I think he's got 1 more day

[red ingot]

Naw

Still buggy in bfv

[dreamy tinsel]

Not Snutten do you know where Is Snutten is?

[red ingot]

He ded

[dreamy tinsel]

[rose eagle]

The hell yo

Dx12 has to work at some point since it's required for rtx right? :/

[red ingot]

Hopefully they'll fix it at some point

Not like rtx is viable rn anyways

Huge hit to performance afaik

[rose eagle]

Useless but hopefully it's a reason to fix it since they never could with bf1

Not holding my breath

[quaint topaz]

@prime jasper just saw your message lol, I got the G910 Spectrum

[torn anvil]

Anyone know which BF games in the past had SLI support?

thank you very much

[prime jasper]

i remember when SLI used to be a selling feature

buy two midrange cards to save the upfront costs of one high end

[red ingot]

I doubt it will tbh

Poor performance scaling, micro-stutter issues, low adoption

Kinda like PhysX

[prime jasper]

i remember physx being a selling point lol. people even had weak nvidia cards dedicated to physx

RTX is the new SLI

Except its far worse

If you get what I mean

[red ingot]

yeah i remember the days of dedicated Physx cards

now i think most games don't even make use of it anymore...

and naw now we got those sweet RTX memes

[latent light]

so

you guys hear about the RTX Titan leak?

[scenic gorge]

Nvidia is always cooking up some weird gimmick

rtx, physx

[gaunt dragon]

That's an arguement you hear about a lot when it comes to the new RTX

what makes this not fizzle out like physx

and it's so valid, i'm glad people aren't just eating the new RTX series up

like people have been guilty of...in the past >.>

[prime jasper]

Fuck RTX

[turbid dove]

Anyone have any experience with ducky keyboards?

[latent light]

I want a mechanical keyboard that doesn't use any software

or at least uses a software that is clean

razer synapse is buggy

[ocean valve]

never had any problems with razer synapse. I've had razer keyboards for over 7 years

[opal willow]

nvidia highlights isnt working in game nor showing in Geforce Ex, anyone facing this issue or know how to fix it bc i don't want to record my whole game just for kill clips

[rose eagle]

1809 is Cancer

is anyone else on it?

i made the mistake not realizing 1809 isnt really fully rolled out and snagged it

unfortunately to reformat my PC so it's a fresh load of it and I can't just roll it off

[atomic atlas]

@ocean valve razer is trash

Logitech best

[red ingot]

1809 is trash?

shiiit

im on 1809 rn

y it so bad tho

[ocean valve]

@atomic atlas eh I like razer but my next mouse and keyboard will probably be logitech, I wanna try em

[atomic atlas]

they arent cheap plastic like razer

[latent light]

razer keycaps are pretty cheap

but the keyboard chassis is like some heavy duty plastic that could probably support my weight if i stood on it

[mental pollen]

steelseries arctis 7 are the best man

[latent light]

Ryzen X570 motherboards leaked and RTX Titan card leaked

[winged tapir]

@ocean valve Logitech ist really good have a G810 keyboard and wanna get the g pro mouse

Both are really good

[prime jasper]

RTX Titan

Only $6,000

"But Celestial, the 2080ti price is justified because its the Titan of this gen"

Oh boi

[void cave]

yep

[vernal spire]

So

[prime jasper]

does powerline help latency

or doesi t not matter

i heard that even if u have wifi your ping wont be different if you have ethernet

[graceful sigil]

dLAN? Compared to WiFi, yes it matters.

[vernal spire]

Nick or Majic sould help you more

But I think Nick is still muted

[prime jasper]

is he the orange

no the turtle

why did nick get muted

[graceful sigil]

I'm using a D-Link adapter and it works like a charm. 10/10 over WiFi any day

[prime jasper]

how does that work

u put one into router and one into pc

and its wireless but like better quality

[graceful sigil]

You have 2 adapters which just plug into power outlets. Plug one in next to your router and one next to your PC and connect them via LAN and there you go

[prime jasper]

is that like TP-link

[graceful sigil]

It uses your powerlines as links between them, so no, it's not wireless, it just doesn't require you to pull additional cables.

tp-link is a brand

[prime jasper]

yeah tp link ill get that

and see if it help

[vernal spire]

1 into power, one into your pc, set it up with your network provider, click some buttons and thats it, pretty easy

You can find a better description somewhere else

[graceful sigil]

https://www.amazon.de/D-Link-DHP-P601AV-PowerLine-Passthrough-Datenübertragunsraten/dp/B00PVE2DP0/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1543754141&sr=1-6&keywords=d-link

[vernal spire]

Or a video

[graceful sigil]

I think I have those

[vernal spire]

D link

Does that mean Deutschland-Link ?

[graceful sigil]

Jawohl!

I have absolutely no clue

[atomic atlas]

@quaint topaz spill water on it weeb

[quaint topaz]

no u

[prime jasper]

yes u

[pastel lily]

theres a discord for OnePlus ?

[prime jasper]

Yes there is 😏

We're already partnered

I guess the OnePlus 7 will get a hole in its screen

[prime jasper]

can I run 8+4gb ram in dual channel?

and would I see any benefit over using just a single stick of 8gb ram or should I try and spend more to get another 8gb stick for 16gigs

[vernal spire]

8 gb isnt enough for games these days

We need more info to answer you

[prime jasper]

right now I have a single stick 8gb stick, I can run bfv fine in domination and other smaller game modes however when I go into conquest in a highly populated area I get a lot of stutter
I’ve seen quite a few benchmarks where people have been getting massive fps gains after using 16gb of ram in dual channel
I don’t have enough money for an 8gb stick however I can probably pick up a used 4gb stick
assuming it’s able to run in dual channel alongside my current 8gb stick will I still see a performance increase (with 12gb 8+4) or should I try to get 16 (8+8)

[white reef]

Boys any game optimitation update?

The game its horribly optimizated. thanks @plain vessel for the link ^^^

Well i have a i5-7500k, RX 580GB VRAM, 16 GB DDR4 RAM, and i cant get 60 fps stables...

@plain vessel

[cursive oar]

Guys is Razer kraken pro v2 good or bad?
Cause i bought it before seeing all reviews cause friend told me its good + he sounded very clear and good with them and like im scared i see alot of people say its trash for gaming and the 7.1 will not work and that it will break fast\

[noble steeple]

I don't know i use Logitech

[cursive oar]

which

I had g430 it was good untill it broke ;p

[noble steeple]

[vernal spire]

Nah u dont need 16 GB

Im here running BFV with 4GB, just minor stutters on lowest settings

And some config files

And

Lmao

Yeah

But real masters use 2 GB for gaming, man those stutters are non existent

I have 20 chrome tabs open

Like a b0ss

But yeah no joke you need 16GB

32 is overkill tbh but you can get to 24 to make it worth

Eh, I have one SSD for programs and one big hdd for file stuff and that shit with 16 GB ram and tbh BF4 loads really fast

Back then I couldnt watch streams and play BF4

Fuckin chrome

And discord takes like 400k memory for some reason

I might wanna upgrade to 24 soon

Probably shouldnt do that

With this pace I will soon waste my money on what? 40 gb

Overkill

I just dont wanna be mixing 16 and 8 gb memory sticks if I decide to buy

[prime jasper]

i want an m.2 drive

and get rid of my other ssd. that way only hdds are taking up hard drive cage spots

ssds are a waste of space in the cage

[steep gust]

So mount it to the back of the motherboard tray with double sided tape

[prime jasper]

thats where my drive setup is at

cases these days dont have cages in the main chamber

it's all in the back

i need every inch when i eventually get 20 petabytes of storage

need to save all the anime

[steep gust]

Uh most cases have the HDD bays in the PSU shroud

and SSD mounts behind the motherboard

[prime jasper]

my case has spots for hdds on the back

i did not see an actual cage on mine. maybe there is, but i didn't see it when i gutted out my old case and installed shit in this new case recently

i have 4 mounting spots, two for ssds, two for hdds/ssds. but i can modify the two dedicated ssd mounts to work with hdds

[steep gust]

I can't imagine how thick the case is if you can mount HDDs behind the motherboard

Mine has like an inch clearance

[prime jasper]

it's pretty big

i have cables all stuffed around that area too cause i dont give a damn about cable management. and i dont have a modular psu. so it's a billion cables

[high urchin]

yes

works good

[rose eagle]

Lolol I massively offended people and got downvoted for starting a Reddit post saying 1809 is Cancer

While cancer does indeed suck, I didn't know it became a sensitive word like gay. I am getting BSODs, game crashing and hanging.. so it is cancer to my system

I have no way to figure out if it's driver incompatibility with my new motherboard, 1809 itself, or something like EVGA x1 incompatible with 1809

[prime jasper]

the word cancer is seen as toxic to some people

[rose eagle]

Which is understandable but I got called a name and that was childish

[prime jasper]

yeah, people are selective about what is offensive

you just have to ignore it like the rest of us adults do

[rose eagle]

I'm a bit disconnected on the emotion brain thing so I would have apologized if the person was upset in a nice way

[prime jasper]

i got a message here deleted before after someone insulted me

[rose eagle]

But they instantly triggered and blasted me

[prime jasper]

yeah, just how the world is online right now. just ignore it.

[rose eagle]

So I took the high road and half apologized but called him immature lol

I apologized to anyone I offended and then asked not to resort to name calling please

PC

But it is cancer to my system

I didn't realize 1809 wasn't rolled out

Add it's required for rtx....

[prime jasper]

nah, that isn't how it works in today's world. when you dare to say something offensive or commit a micro aggression, you will be brutally made fun of and insulted. since they have the moral high ground you must submit and go away lul

[rose eagle]

Surely it's not the problem

But something in my system sure as hell is incompatible with it or just period

[steep gust]

1809 has been plagued for months now

I would wait until its 100% working before updating

[rose eagle]

I'm pretty sure I was going on it before my last reformat..

Because I tried rtx over a week ago on my 3770k

[steep gust]

RTX is worthless

[rose eagle]

So it's only since upgrading to 9700k

It may not be 1809 but 1809 with this new motherboard :/

Or just this setup period...

Too many things to try to isolate down since it's basically a whole new PC

Couldn't have just left well enough alone on my poor 3770k!

Rtx is useless but does require 1809

So.... Maybe it is Microsoft's fault somehow and those on 20xx?

Sigh

[prime jasper]

the rtx cards are good. just overpriced

but no one can stop nvidia from overpricing their cards. amd has jack shit to offer

amd has rebadged gpus for like... 4 product lines now

[willow apex]

Very close to new PC for BFV

Only need my CPU

and it's ready

[prime jasper]

what is your setup looking like now?

im about to overclock the shit out of my 4690k to get rid of the dips i get in some games

[willow apex]

I have a 4690k

It's getting slow

[prime jasper]

you gotta overclock that bitch

[willow apex]

It is :((

[prime jasper]

im running stock right now

[willow apex]

Running @ 4.3

[prime jasper]

i just bought the h100i AIO water cooler

gonna see if i can push to 4.7

[willow apex]

I just said heck it and went all in on a new pc

Quad core will hold me back in the future.. so I decided it's upgrade time

[prime jasper]

yeah, 4690k won't last much longer. maybe two more years

[willow apex]

9700k incoming soon

[prime jasper]

it isnt the 4 cores that is holding it back. it doesnt have HT

[willow apex]

Eh

[prime jasper]

if you get the 4770k you will see a big difference in no dips

[willow apex]

ofc

But its almost the same price as a 9700k

[prime jasper]

or get the broadwell chips that are super rare

[willow apex]

so why not just get the latest 😛

[prime jasper]

not used

if you buy used then it's cheaper

[willow apex]

I never buy used pc parts

Warranty is spotty

[prime jasper]

i have and do. i bought my 2tb drive used

for like 30 bucks

still working

[willow apex]

hd is fine

but I mean a 200+$ invest

Not safe for used part

[prime jasper]

it's safe. youre protected by ebay buyers protection

you just return it if it doesnt work

you gotta do it one time to get rid of the fear of used parts

if i can find a broadwell chip for cheap then that is my next upgrade path. but if i can't, then i gotta freaking upgrade to ryzen

[steep gust]

9700k isn't worth it tbh

[prime jasper]

it will be more stable than a 4690k though

[steep gust]

Sure but not much more than an 8600k /8700k

[prime jasper]

the fps doesnt increase that much, but the stability is what youre looking for

[willow apex]

Yea thats the thing

I was considering 8700k

but It's like $30 more for a 9700k...

[steep gust]

It should be cheaper

[willow apex]

and at that price why even count every penny

[steep gust]

A 9700k is around an 8086k in price

[willow apex]

8700k = 370 rn

[prime jasper]

you could always support an american company and buy AMD :^)

[willow apex]

9700k = 410

Heck amd

[steep gust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/sxDzK8,CgqhP6,WtyV3C/

Intel is an American company :^)

[willow apex]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m8TG6s

[prime jasper]

intel is israeli

[willow apex]

hard to back out now

[steep gust]

You can find 8700k for $330

[willow apex]

uwot mewt

"Intel Corporation is an American multinational corporation and technology company headquartered in Santa Clara, California, in the Silicon Valley. Wikipedia"

[steep gust]

Intel was founded in Mountain View, California, in 1968 by Gordon E. Moore

[prime jasper]

that is what they want you to believe

[willow apex]

uh..

okay

[prime jasper]

nah, i just got caught not knowing :^)

[rose eagle]

I got my 9700k for $350 Black Friday but I wouldn't recommend anyone else buy one for retail lol

[willow apex]

plus I overpaid $100 for an RGB mobo

[rose eagle]

And upgrading to 8700k seems like a waste

[prime jasper]

a lot of R&D is done in israel, thought it was israeli

[willow apex]

I don't think money is my strong suit

[rose eagle]

Just wait to make sure AMD save have anything amazing in 4 months :/

[prime jasper]

RBG is only cool on mouse/keyboard. rgb in case is useless

but i use windowless cases

[steep gust]

what

that is why

[rose eagle]

I know it's hard but you should do it unlike me

[red ingot]

"Wouldnt recommend anyone buy it" but he buys it himself @rose eagle

[rose eagle]

;)

[red ingot]

[prime jasper]

how would he not recommend it if he didn't try it himself?

[steep gust]

Zen2 is gonna crush coffeelake refresh

[red ingot]

dont buy it it only gives u a massive fps boost

[prime jasper]

zen2 is already out

we're waiting for zen3

[steep gust]

uh no

Zen+ is out

[rose eagle]

If you can't contain yourself and must upgrade right now, it's the only choice lol

[steep gust]

Zen 1.5 or so

[red ingot]

[prime jasper]

what is the difference

it's the second refresh

these goddamn companies

iphone 9 is iphone 10

[rose eagle]

But I'm trying to preach restraint haha

[red ingot]

I'm tired of holding out and waiting

[prime jasper]

zen 2 is zen +

[steep gust]

Zen2 has some huge improvements

[red ingot]

Who knows how long it'll be

[rose eagle]

Indeed

[steep gust]

Zen+ was just refined Zen

[red ingot]

Everything gets delayed

Intel 10nm was supposed to be out like 3 years ago

[prime jasper]

it gets delayed cause this shit is expensive to engineer

[rose eagle]

My 2070 was being CPU bottlenecked, 9700k was the only remedy

[red ingot]

Yeah

But as in if you hold out you might be waiting years

[steep gust]

Cannonlake ain't gonna happen

[prime jasper]

i work in an electrical engineering field. we got shit that is delayed up to a year

[rose eagle]

Yeah and BF Vietnam would be out

[red ingot]

Dont listen to their smug promises

[vernal spire]

but can it run Crysis 3 ?

[steep gust]

Its been like 4 years

[prime jasper]

shits hard dawg

[red ingot]

Yeah

Ik

That's why just buy now

Fuck waiting

Otherwise you'll be 80

[rose eagle]

Seriously though if these problems are my motherboard and it's not 1809...

[steep gust]

Zen2 at least is done

Its just waiting for product launch

[vernal spire]

is Nick still muted?

[red ingot]

Yeah

[prime jasper]

waiting is dumb. anything modern is better than 4th gen intel

[vernal spire]

god dammit

[prime jasper]

all these new cpus beat my 4690k in stability

[red ingot]

Yeah

[steep gust]

You mean anything is better than like gen 2 to gen 7 since 4c 8t is old

[prime jasper]

even the i3s are more stable

[red ingot]

Going from 4770k to 9700k

My 9700k should be here in like a week

[rose eagle]

Yeah < 8 is just a bottleneck

Any cpu

[primal tendon]

I'm looking to build a new PC to be able to run BF5 on Ultra at a steady FPS, any tips on where to start?

[red ingot]

I'm so excited

[steep gust]

what

Most games rarely use 4

[prime jasper]

it isnt really a bottleneck in a major way. it will just dip FPS

[steep gust]

Much less 6

[red ingot]

9700k 1080ti

[prime jasper]

you will still get a lot of fps

[red ingot]

Fuck fps dips

[rose eagle]

I def need to know your fps asap ;)

[steep gust]

Resolution? @primal tendon

[prime jasper]

most games use hyperthreading @steep gust

[rose eagle]

Waiting on you now!!

[primal tendon]

1080p

[red ingot]

[prime jasper]

the 4690k doesnt have hyperthreading

it gets fucking stomped by cpus that got it

[red ingot]

My motherboard hasn't even shipped yet

[steep gust]

A 4690k has what 4 cores?

That is why

Not the lack of HT

[rose eagle]

Wtf is up with motherboards? Lol

[red ingot]

So it'll be a while before it arrives panda rip

[prime jasper]

the lack of HT is noticable

[red ingot]

Yeah idfk

[willow apex]

Not really

[prime jasper]

get the i7s that got HT

[willow apex]

HT can affect games

[prime jasper]

the performance is better

[steep gust]

uh no

[prime jasper]

not as much dip

[willow apex]

sometimes

[red ingot]

And my cpu still gotta clear customs

[prime jasper]

uh yes

[steep gust]

HT isn't really used in games

[prime jasper]

yes it is

[rose eagle]

The lack of HT is nonsense on 8 cores

[willow apex]

like

[red ingot]

I dont expect my shit to come in till next week

[willow apex]

negative

[prime jasper]

youre in a fucking discord that is about a game that BENEFITS from HT

[steep gust]

Explain why my 8600k crushes a 7700k?

ONE GAME

IS NOT FUCKING ALL

[red ingot]

Reee

[prime jasper]

reeee

[red ingot]

:reee:

[prime jasper]

reeeeee

[rose eagle]

6c6t >> 4c8t

[red ingot]

^

[primal tendon]

Anyone? :]

[steep gust]

Y'all need to realize that EA can afford to optimize BFV to be using the cutting edge of tech

Most games will be built around 4c and maybe 6c since 4c is still the majority

[vernal spire]

The Escape key on my keyboard isnt working

[rose eagle]

Sorry we're in a tech war lol

[red ingot]

@primal tendon 1080ti 9700k

[steep gust]

Not for 1080p

[rose eagle]

Define steady fps

[steep gust]

Get an 8600k / 2070

[rose eagle]

And what res

[prime jasper]

when you read these reviews and those charts about fps in games, youre not reading the lowest fps shown. and these reviewers dont touch on fps dips as much. your 4th gen cpu is gonna dip way more than the modern cpus

[primal tendon]

There's so many different 1080ti's

Wth is the difference between all of them

[rose eagle]

And what budget

[red ingot]

Evga

[rose eagle]

Just get evga

[steep gust]

uh no

EVGA also has bad stuff

[rose eagle]

So many opinions ;)

[red ingot]

And read the 1% benchmarks

Evga doesn't have bad stuff

I always look at avg and 1%

[rose eagle]

Betrayed always the loudest

[steep gust]

Didn't EVGA have 1070s that literally exploded?

[red ingot]

Most benchmarks include the 1%

[vernal spire]

🔫 i cant use my escape key

[crisp shoal]

hy guys

[red ingot]

No that was Samsung

[prime jasper]

fps dips is what makes it lag. i rather have a cpu that does 50 stable then have a cpu that does 120fps that dips into 80 and yoyos

[vernal spire]

fuck this

[prime jasper]

those dips are fucking terrible

[rose eagle]

My EVGA 2070 XC is amazing! ;)

[red ingot]

You're not allowed to escape Blek

You're stuck here forever

[prime jasper]

i have to set fps limiter to 60fps to stop dips in BFV

[crisp shoal]

I have been looking into buying a rtx2070
and since there are different manufacturers can anyone recommend me one?

[red ingot]

Evga

[rose eagle]

My 9700k doesn't dip fucking at all ever

No HT

[red ingot]

Fu panda

[steep gust]

Yep, EVGA had the GPUs that had improper VRM cooling that caused them to catch fire, etc

[rose eagle]

8 cores in raw use

[vernal spire]

i cant pause my game 🤔

[red ingot]

Rip u

[prime jasper]

9700k is way better than 4690k

[red ingot]

Play forever

Yeah

[crisp shoal]

Until now I was looking into buying the msi armor non-oc

[red ingot]

I'll give all u benchmarks in a week

[rose eagle]

And will show better longer term vs 8700k

[steep gust]

MSI Armor could be much better

[prime jasper]

for sure

[red ingot]

Imo for graphics cards evga/asus/msi

[prime jasper]

you wont have to upgrade away from your 9700k for years

[steep gust]

You know what is even better than a 9700k for long term?

[red ingot]

What

[steep gust]

A 2700x

[crisp shoal]

alright thanks :D
anyone have experience with a 2070 ?

[rose eagle]

Lololol

[red ingot]

[steep gust]

So you don't need a new fucking motherboard in a year

[red ingot]

@rose eagle has a 2070

[steep gust]

Cannonlake will have a new socket, its intel

[prime jasper]

i need to upgrade my cpu and mobo some day. im getting a beefy gpu next though. gonna make this 4690k last a couple years longer

[rose eagle]

You're counting on AMD coming through man

[prime jasper]

hope it lasts to end of 2019

[crisp shoal]

@rose eagle spill the sauce

[red ingot]

Who knows if AMD will come through

I'm tired of fucking waiting

[steep gust]

It'll be LGA1151 but with a different pin layout to make sure it only supports Cannonlake

Well

AMD has Eypc 2

[prime jasper]

AMD will come through on cpu side. on the gpu side lmao

ATI is dead to me

[rose eagle]

You buy a 2700x now and have worse perf than an 8700k and what if zen2 sucks then what

@crisp shoal what you need

[red ingot]

Sat my ass on my 4770k for so long waiting

[steep gust]

and what if cannonlake never happens?

[crisp shoal]

I heard you have a rtx 2070

[red ingot]

Yeah

[rose eagle]

Indeed

[crisp shoal]

I was looking to buy one

which one did you get ?

[prime jasper]

im getting the rtx 2070 also

that thing is a beast

[steep gust]

A 2700x is cheaper than a 8700k and performs decently

[crisp shoal]

ayyy rtx2070 squad

[rose eagle]

EVGA 2070 XC

[red ingot]

decently

[rose eagle]

No problems

[steep gust]

You lose what 5-10fps going with a 2700x?

[red ingot]

No

[steep gust]

oh

[crisp shoal]

alright
any complaints?

[red ingot]

Panda upgraded from a 3700k and got like 40fps increase

[rose eagle]

Cherry picked GPU ftw

[steep gust]

and that gap shrinks at 1440p

3700k is fucking old dude

[red ingot]

And panda is on 1440p

[rose eagle]

Nope besides rtx being useless? But surely you aren't buying one for that

[primal tendon]

Why are there so many fkn options

[red ingot]

Rtx is only for memes

[prime jasper]

im getting a 4k monitor and im still gonna game on 1080p :^)

[crisp shoal]

nah I don't even care about it xD

[red ingot]

Wtf mewt

[steep gust]

4c 8t @3.9ghz is gonna be slow

[red ingot]

Y u do that

[steep gust]

eww 1080p on 4k monitors

Don't do that

[prime jasper]

im gonna do it in window mode too @red ingot

[crisp shoal]

I mean in the heat of a battle you won't notice that realistic reflection in the water

[prime jasper]

dont @ me

[red ingot]

Wtf

[steep gust]

*never

[red ingot]

@prime jasper

[steep gust]

You don't notice RTX if you aren't looking for it

[red ingot]

Ur a savage

[rose eagle]

@prime jasper whoa wait does the monitor do higher hz like that or will you be stuck at 60??

[crisp shoal]

and I think it's like 50% less fps with rtx on?

[steep gust]

Ye

[red ingot]

Yeah it is

[rose eagle]

My buddy did that and I convinced him to get a new monitor

[steep gust]

RTX murders FPS

[prime jasper]

@ornate tree you will be doing 144hz, but have 60fps lol

[rose eagle]

He deeply regretted his 4k

[red ingot]

Fuck rtx

[steep gust]

1440p 144hz > 4k 60hz

[prime jasper]

i can play at 60hz

[red ingot]

Ew

[prime jasper]

it doesnt affect me

[steep gust]

Have you used 144hz?

[red ingot]

Go play on console

[prime jasper]

i like 144hz and higher, but im not a snob

yes

[rose eagle]

Have you even tried 144fps 144hz?

[prime jasper]

i use to have a 180hz crt also

[steep gust]

Then you need to use it more

[red ingot]

Go away

[steep gust]

60hz is fucking bad

[prime jasper]

yes

[crisp shoal]

I can play on 60hz with controller

[rose eagle]

You will regret it

Mark my words

[prime jasper]

i have played 250fps on 180hz crts before

[red ingot]

How do u live with yourself

Wtf

[prime jasper]

i wont regret it

[crisp shoal]

but on mouse its just too unresponsive

[prime jasper]

i play splatoon 2 at 60hz

[red ingot]

60fps is so laggy

[crisp shoal]

but you can't compare stick movement to mouse movement

[prime jasper]

not if your brain works at 144hz

[crisp shoal]

@prime jasper

[primal tendon]

What fkn motherboard do I get

[steep gust]

CRT is different

[rose eagle]

60hz is a slide show

[primal tendon]

Why is this so hard

[prime jasper]

i dont use stick in splatoon 2...

[steep gust]

The one you want

[red ingot]

Get asus

[prime jasper]

it has motion controls bro

[steep gust]

eww no

[red ingot]

[prime jasper]

it aims like a weird mouse

[primal tendon]

How do I know which one I want

[steep gust]

Asus' motherboards this time around are shit

[primal tendon]

They're all the saaame

[ornate tree]

@prime jasper why ping me

[red ingot]

I'll let u know in like a week how mine is

[crisp shoal]

as you say

[rose eagle]

All boards are shit for z390

[prime jasper]

wrong guy andy

[steep gust]

Advertising that isn't factual

[prime jasper]

why you got similar names

[red ingot]

Yeah just dont get asrock

[rose eagle]

ALL!

[crisp shoal]

I think there is also people not being sensitive to it @prime jasper

[ornate tree]

I see

[crisp shoal]

so maybe you are one of the chosen ones

[red ingot]

If u get asrock u hate yourself

[ornate tree]

what a faker

[prime jasper]

im sensitive to it. i just adapt fast

[steep gust]

Gigabyte's lineup is nice

[crisp shoal]

or that

[red ingot]

Naw

[prime jasper]

i also can adapt to a new mouse in one game

[red ingot]

Screw gigabyte

Mewt wtf

Go 144hz

[crisp shoal]

I think I am just 'too convenient' to downgrade

[steep gust]

as in

[prime jasper]

im on 144hz now

[crisp shoal]

but lets say I have no choice I thinbk I could adapt to it

[red ingot]

[steep gust]

Gigabyte has the best Z390 motherboard

[red ingot]

Why would u downgrade

[crisp shoal]

I mean I could adapt to playing bloodborne in 30 fps

[prime jasper]

im telling you scrubs that going to 60hz is nothing

[steep gust]

@primal tendon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5NDtS8za8g

[red ingot]

I have a 60hz monitor I used to use next to my 144hz

[steep gust]

Then set your monitor to 60hz

[prime jasper]

wow you get headache for one day. big whoop lul

[steep gust]

and use it

[red ingot]

It was painful even using windows

[steep gust]

For a week

[prime jasper]

i use my monitor at 60hz all the time when i play my switch

[crisp shoal]

haha

[red ingot]

Even when u play old games

[prime jasper]

what are you guys not understanding?

[red ingot]

Some old games are locked to 60hz

Its painful

It's so laggy

[steep gust]

Because 144hz > 60hz

[red ingot]

Yeah

[crisp shoal]

guys I mean if @prime jasper says he can adapt It's his choice
why try to convice him from your opinion

[prime jasper]

not really. good player > bad player

[red ingot]

Good player = 144hz

More fps ez game

Gotta hit those shots

[steep gust]

144hz felt like cheating when I went to it in FPS

[prime jasper]

i use to use a 180hz crt. your shitty 144hz monitors suck in comparison to my old Mitsubishi crt

[steep gust]

dude CRTs =/= modern monitors

[red ingot]

144hz is massive benefit in fps

[prime jasper]

bro the response times were in the fucking nanoseconds. they felt way better than modern monitors

[crisp shoal]

so weird seeing mitsubishi as a monitor manufacturer

[steep gust]

Response time means nothing in modern monitors

[prime jasper]

it was a rebadged sony trinitron @crisp shoal

[red ingot]

^

[crisp shoal]

oh xD wow

[red ingot]

Isn't the input delay on 144hz like 8ms or something

[primal tendon]

I7-8700 Processor
GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Graphics

What about this

[steep gust]

Our eyes react to color changes (contrast)

Response time is generally gray -> gray

1ms vs 4ms is nothing

When your reaction time is 200ms

[prime jasper]

you guys sound like scrubs. can't play on 60hz lul

[steep gust]

@primal tendon If that 1070ti is like $350-400 then sure

[red ingot]

Well I wouldnt say reaction time is 200ms

[prime jasper]

im gonna play on 30hz now

[red ingot]

That sounds like a long fucking time

Mewt wtf

Savage

[crisp shoal]

oof

[steep gust]

Looking at your data you might be thinking how you compare to the human average reaction time. Here it is! The average reaction time for humans is 0.25 seconds to a visual stimulus, 0.17 for an audio stimulus, and 0.15 seconds for a touch stimulus.

[red ingot]

Wow

Rip

[steep gust]

A real blink of an eye takes 300 to 400 milliseconds. Since there's 1000 milliseconds in each second, a blink of an eye takes around 1/3 of a second. Compared to the time span of one full second, a blink of an eye is an eternity

[red ingot]

What about gamer reaction time

[steep gust]

Generally you don't die in blinks so

[red ingot]

Every time I die it's because I blinked

Gonna blame it on blinks now

[prime jasper]

life is a simulation

[steep gust]

tbh I can't decide if I want to go to ultrawide

[prime jasper]

youre all on an alien planet

[red ingot]

Dont do it

[prime jasper]

life is like that episode of rick and morty when morty is forced to play that video game about living some guys life

[steep gust]

I can't really fit two monitors properly on my desk

[red ingot]

Imo hard to fucking see everything when you're gaming

[prime jasper]

two monitors is a meme

i use one now

use to have three

[red ingot]

And some games dont support it well

[prime jasper]

using one monitor gives you better focus

[red ingot]

Idk I used to have 2 and it was nice

[prime jasper]

people that say they can multitask do everything subpar

dont care what people say

[steep gust]

and the amount of 1440p 144hz IPS monitors with gsync is slim

[red ingot]

Yeah

I got one tho

[steep gust]

So removing ultrawides really hurts that

[red ingot]

The ROG Swift

It's super nice

[prime jasper]

i dont like ultrawide becomes not many movies support it

rather just do 4k

[red ingot]

-_-

No 4k

[steep gust]

Most movies don't even properly support 16:9

[prime jasper]

it looks better than using an ultrawide and watching a film

[steep gust]

So no surprise they don't support 21:9

[red ingot]

Just get a 4k TV if u wanna watch sexy movies

[prime jasper]

or i use my pc and watch sexy movies

[red ingot]

sexy movies

[steep gust]

but sitting in a desk and watching a movie

[red ingot]

[steep gust]

eww

[prime jasper]

4k JAV

get at me

[red ingot]

Jav?

[prime jasper]

dont google it if youre at work

[red ingot]

And yeah really I've never watched a movie on my computer

Unless I'm using it to stream to my tv

And oh lol

Cause yeah who sits at a desk to watch a movie

[prime jasper]

me

[red ingot]

Nice to have a good monitor to watch YouTube videos though

You sir are just a savage

[prime jasper]

i got a tv, but i dont use it much anymore. maybe use it to watch family feud or bob's burgers

on free cable

i got my wii and ps2 hooked up to it. but imma get cables to do component to hdmi

play that on pc monitor

[red ingot]

So instead u sit at your desk to watch movies?

Rather than chill on the couch

[prime jasper]

yeah

it's dope

[red ingot]

More comfy on the couch imo

[prime jasper]

i sleep on a couch

[red ingot]

Plus TV is bigger screen

🤔

Jelly

I do have 3 monitors I could use

[prime jasper]

i watch youtube laying on couch :^)

[red ingot]

But my desk is too small rn

Nice

Wait what

No not nice

[prime jasper]

60hz > 144hz

[red ingot]

60hz

[prime jasper]

dont @ me

[red ingot]

Ew

@prime jasper

Well 1 144hz screen

Yeah u only need 1

[prime jasper]

im gonna play games at 30hz with 720p window on a 4k display

[red ingot]

But at least 1 lol

Y mewt

[prime jasper]

just to trigger you

[red ingot]

Y u do dis

[indigo scaffold]

how can i report a bug

thank you

[rose eagle]

the "freeze" issue i got last night was weird.. my PC was 100% unresponsive except for sometimes i could get a right click to register a pop up menu on my 2nd monitor but something just put my PC at 100% resource usage. Had been playing V for like 2hr

and then i tried to play Rocket league later in the night and got weird hitching which caused lag spikes after they occured, like my system went unresponsive full load for 5s. I could never catch a hw monitor history so im just going to have to leave it up.

[red ingot]

Reformat

[rose eagle]

100% GPU sitting on main menu

what..

i really wish they hadnt done this full render main menu

leaving yourself in game but not playing means 75c gpu temps, im sure that's great long term

[steep gust]

75C GPU temps are fine

[prime jasper]

depends on what the manufacturer says it can handle

[crisp shoal]

@plain vessel which software are you using to display the load?

[rose eagle]

yea this is hardware problems, it started only when i reformatted and clean installed 1809 with my new motherboard, cpu, ram setup

hardware/driver/os

[crisp shoal]

I wish they didn't do shitty UI

[prime jasper]

it is probably drivers. most issues i have is some fucking weird driver. ESPECIALLY for new products

[crisp shoal]

especially changing the specializations takes so many clicks

[prime jasper]

i once had an AMD card that would black screen a lot from bad drivers at launch

i once had razer drivers crash my system constantly

[crisp shoal]

I had it that the chroma thingie crashed most of my games

ahh okay thanks

:D

[steep gust]

eww CAM

[prime jasper]

a whole degree

[steep gust]

Lock your fans to an RPM that moves air but is also quiet

Because software fan control can be bad

[gaunt arrow]

Building my first PC on Wednesday when my cpu and Mobo come in hopefully someone will be here when I definitely eventually have questions 🙏😂

[red ingot]

nice

[prime jasper]

remember that it's easier than it sounds or looks

if it doesnt turn on then you likely forget to plug something in

double check and recheck your connections

triple check after the double check

always a good feeling

ive gutted out my pc out of like... 4 cases now lol

barely many changes at all

[red ingot]

lel

[prime jasper]

pc building must be a nice side job these days

everyone meme'd it to death

it's funny they are so popular now right when prebuilts are really good these days

it's more fun when they give you casherinos

or at least beer

will work for beer

are you german?

ah

[red ingot]

do u work at dice

[prime jasper]

he works for the government

[red ingot]

to spy on DICE

ic

[prime jasper]

the historical accuracy department

[red ingot]

i can't tell whether your serious

or trolling

oh lol

historical accuracy department

[prime jasper]

the real troll doesn't give it away with smiley faces :^)

[red ingot]

"web dev"

sure

[prime jasper]

i troll my coworkers with a straight face. they cant tell when im serious.

[red ingot]

secretly undercover

[prime jasper]

or joking

[red ingot]

lol, my parents barely know what a computer is -.-

my dad bought a shitty $500 laptop and wonders why its just as slow as his old shitty $500 laptop

[prime jasper]

how do you barely know

[red ingot]

no one listens to me..

well u know what i mean

old people = technologically inept

[prime jasper]

have they just heard rumors of these mystical computing machines

old people invented this stuff

they just choose to not learn

[red ingot]

insert durr stupid technology here

literally the amount of times you see someone old go technology and roll their eyes

[prime jasper]

one of my bossmen is like a 60-70 year old physicist. he aint a dumb dumb

[red ingot]

and you kind of just smile while thinking "you dumb"

cause you literally could probably fix it in under 3 seconds but they just shut down and give up when something doesn't go their way

[prime jasper]

i dont think old people being dumb with computers is a fair stereotype

i know just as many young idiots

[red ingot]

yeah you're right

my ex is a great example

[prime jasper]

if anything i met more older folks that actually know how a computer works

down to a bit level

[red ingot]

true

i guess the irony is my dad used to be an engineer

and now he barely knows how a computer works, practically speaking

he knows bits/bytes but not how to use his damn laptop

[prime jasper]

most of my professors when i was studying EE were very old

like retirement age old

when they taught programming they liked using stuff like C and assembly

they avoided abstract things

[red ingot]

yeah

its interesting, ive seen a lot of "old" people who can program amazing

but can't actually like, use a computer

its interesting

[prime jasper]

they are more abstract now

[red ingot]

good progamming skill =/= tech literacy

[prime jasper]

they know complicated things

[red ingot]

yeah

interesting how that works

[prime jasper]

i can barely use an iphone

[red ingot]

the brain's a funny thing

[prime jasper]

and that is the most simple phone

cause theres no buttons

[red ingot]

yeah true

[prime jasper]

the one button takes you home

im so confused by it

but tech idiots can use it with ease

[red ingot]

you're right lol

yeah my mom has Mac/iPhone

and I'm designated "tech support"

i can use my android/windows with ease

but Mac/iPhone confuse the fuck outta me

[prime jasper]

they designed it for users that dont wanna learn to use a computer

so it makes sense to them

[red ingot]

yeah

[prime jasper]

it's actually amazing

their designers are great

[red ingot]

like, i look for basic options/functions

and i can't fucking find it

[prime jasper]

i wouldn't be able to design things like that

[red ingot]

yeah

like mac, does task manager not exist?

and wtf is finder

[prime jasper]

same thing with modern websites. everything is fucking hidden

takes forever to find shit

[red ingot]

and fuck trying to find something in settings on an iphone

and yeah

[prime jasper]

some idiot finds it in 2 seconds

takes me 50 years

[red ingot]

its all designed for idiots

yeah tbf windows search is garbage

[prime jasper]

i use windows search at work all the time

works for me

[red ingot]

that's why i just installed classic shell

[prime jasper]

just type in my product i need to find the schematics for and i get it

[red ingot]

classic shell > windows 10 search

actually freaking indexes shit

pretty much brings back win7 search

[prime jasper]

i had to uninstall classic shell and go back to old windows 10

[red ingot]

D:

[prime jasper]

i got win7 at work

[north crow]

Wox is also nice

[prime jasper]

works great with search

[red ingot]

windows 10 search is so bad tho

[north crow]

uses Everything for its search 👌

[red ingot]

wox?

[prime jasper]

windows 10 search i can hit my windows key and start typing and hit enter

[north crow]

it's a launcher

[red ingot]

interesting

[prime jasper]

classic shell it would fuck up

[north crow]

http://www.wox.one/images/wox_preview.jpg

[red ingot]

yeah i just found it

huh

[north crow]

also pretty well themable

[red ingot]

i might take a look at that

thx

[prime jasper]

windows 10 search works for me. if your use case is different then by all means, switch

i dont do much on my home PC