technology

[steep gust]

@latent light Ye

[rose eagle]

1060 will struggle to maintain 60fps in V at 1440p

[gaunt dragon]

Apart from a few straggling Ebay listings, the board in question was listed for 250$.

[latent light]

i know i won't be able to do ultra settings at the res

[unborn epoch]

i still have an eizo flexscan

😄

[rose eagle]

i mean, you'll be lucky to play mostly low and not dip below 60

do you want "minimum" 60fps?

[steep gust]

BFV isn't accurate

[gaunt dragon]

so, 100$ for the i5, 250 for the board, 350, quick mafs.

[steep gust]

minimum 1440p > ultra 1080p

[latent light]

pixels are still very noticeable on 1440p

[rose eagle]

post processing and shadows devours FPS

just keep everything else up, itll look pretty

[latent light]

played on my brother's Acer Predator X34 which is 3440x1440 ultra-wide and I saw pixels easily

[gaunt dragon]

are people actually able to notice pixels on high-density screens? The last time I was able to "see" pixels, was on my really old small CRT TV. Since then I haven't been able to tell the difference between 720p+.

Controversial statement alert :P

[steep gust]

ultra wide =/= normal monitor

[rose eagle]

what size is the 3440?

80in?

😄

[latent light]

21:9 ratio

[steep gust]

You can see pixels on a 1080p 24" monitor

[latent light]

easily

[rose eagle]

i see dead pixels

[steep gust]

but unless you are really looking you won't notice it on a standard 1440p 27"

[latent light]

I can see pixels on a 4K 27" monitor lol

[rose eagle]

is your face in the monitor?

[gaunt dragon]

^

[steep gust]

yeah no

[latent light]

about 4 feet away

[steep gust]

The pixel density at 4k is a little high for that

[rose eagle]

your eyes are broken 😦

[gaunt dragon]

you should sign up for the military, you'd be a phenomenal sniper.

[steep gust]

or you are intentionally looking for pixels

[latent light]

lmao

[quasi sparrow]

4K 24" is most woke

[rose eagle]

thats no bueno lol

[quasi sparrow]

LG 21.5" 4K >>>

[gaunt dragon]

4k anything is a joke, it's so spendy, rip my paycheck, and the following one

[quasi sparrow]

too bad windows has shit res scaling

[rose eagle]

its useless, 60hz ftw!

[unborn epoch]

whoever looks for pixels

[quasi sparrow]

4K isn't that expensive anymore

[latent light]

1080p looks very pixelated after using 4K

[unborn epoch]

is also looking for dicksels

[steep gust]

1440p > 4k tbh

[unborn epoch]

just get a 144hz 4k gsyn monitor

[steep gust]

4k is still too hard to drive in a lot of games

[quasi sparrow]

$300 for entry level 4K

[steep gust]

add $200 for gsync ^

[quasi sparrow]

you don't need AA at 4K tho

or even 1440

[latent light]

those monitors that were selling as "4K 144hz" can't really do 4K 144hz

[unborn epoch]

the good thing about 4k, games that ard too hard to drive and you want fps, play at 1080p

looks great

[gaunt dragon]

Aha, that's funny.

[quasi sparrow]

^ perfect scaling

[unborn epoch]

ya

[latent light]

you have to overclock the refresh rate for 144hz

[steep gust]

what

[gaunt dragon]

My 2nd monitor is too old, I have to use VGA on it.

Lul.

[steep gust]

The panel can do 4k 144hz

Displayport can't

[rose eagle]

my buddy has an ROG 4k but yea.. says he's locked at 60hz

i was kinda confused

[steep gust]

Like the $2000 one?

[quasi sparrow]

I have 3440x1440 100Hz and I honestly can't tell the difference between 100 and 144

[steep gust]

Or some 4k 60hz one?

[rose eagle]

it should have higher Hz for lower resolutions?

[gaunt dragon]

So now it's back to a VGI and VGA cable, yay.

[steep gust]

Also the panel can do 4k 60hz, you don't want to drop the resolution and try for higher refresh rates

[rose eagle]

ill have to gather more info

[steep gust]

That looks like shit

[unborn epoch]

4k 144hz is possible through displayport 1.4 if you use DSC

[rose eagle]

but he has been playing BF1 on it, not at 4k

more like 1440p

upscaling ftl

[steep gust]

yeah displayport has to down sample to work at 4k 144hz

which is no good

[latent light]

playing at lower resolutions than what the monitor has looks like shit

[steep gust]

1440p on a 4k monitor is gonna look bad

[latent light]

very bad

[unborn epoch]

ya 1080p only

[gaunt dragon]

also, @unborn epoch be proud, you totally got me to try out windows 10 again. I'm gonna install it for my SSD when I get it tomorrow.

[unborn epoch]

ya

you should

[gaunt dragon]

Might as well try it, last I tried it was that weird beta they had.

[steep gust]

Make sure to remove Cortana

[gaunt dragon]

^

[unborn epoch]

ya cortana is ass

[steep gust]

and delete a bunch of other shit

[rose eagle]

Swift PG27AQ i believe

i could never find refresh info on it

[gaunt dragon]

I already plan on it, I know the windows 10 security shenanigans you gotta do.

[rose eagle]

i convinced him to buy one of the s2716dg on sale for $350 this weekend

fk the Asus

[unborn epoch]

https://www.asus.com/us/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-SWIFT-PG27AQ/specifications/

[quasi sparrow]

I wish gaming on Linux were more of a thing

[unborn epoch]

it's on the stinking spec page

[quasi sparrow]

I hate having to use windows just to play vidya

[steep gust]

Its 60hz

[quasi sparrow]

get the Massdrop Vast

[rose eagle]

yea so this monitor only does 60hz ever, period but there are some 4k that do higher Hz at diff res? but thats useless as you'd have to make your monitor change res?

[steep gust]

I wish there were more 1440p 144hz IPS panels with gsync

You can buy a 4k 144hz monitor

[rose eagle]

the Dell is an amazing TN panel

[unborn epoch]

ya somehow there are only a handful

[steep gust]

But TN

[latent light]

1080p 144hz or 1440p 100hz?

[steep gust]

1440p 100hz

If you have the hardware

[unborn epoch]

ya 1440p 100hz defnitely

[gaunt dragon]

tfw nothing above 60

[unborn epoch]

way more pixels to work on too

[drowsy beacon]

Acer xb271hu 1440p IPS 165hz with gsync

[latent light]

i feel like 100hz and 144hz wouldn't be near as big as a difference as going from 60 to 100hz

[rose eagle]

tis not

[unborn epoch]

it will be once you been playing 100hz for 5 years

[rose eagle]

90 is imperative

[quasi sparrow]

yeah after 100Hz, I feel like returns start to diminish heavily

[unborn epoch]

in windows and certain games like plebfield ure

[latent light]

some people say going from 144hz to 240hz is like going from 30hz to 60hz lmao

[unborn epoch]

if you master any true FPS, that's different

[rose eagle]

after 144hz the input delay gains are greatly diminished

[unborn epoch]

go play warsow at 100hz and 144hz

[rose eagle]

144 to 240 is dumb

[unborn epoch]

you will notice a difference

[rose eagle]

we always say this.. why would anyone ever need more than a 1.44mb

[unborn epoch]

majic you dingus, it's not only about inputlag

[steep gust]

144hz to 240hz isn't much

[unborn epoch]

it starts to become about fluidity

[rose eagle]

but... i do think 240hz is massive enthusiast overkill

most wont ever need it

[steep gust]

esports

[unborn epoch]

nobody needs 1440p either

or 1080p, everyone can do things on 720p

[gaunt dragon]

is 60 ok, or is 144 really worth that investment?

[rose eagle]

i mean when you are in that 1% that you think you're at a disadvantage due to 1 less fps or 1ms less input yes 😄

but for us humans.. no

[latent light]

i can never go back to 720p

[unborn epoch]

I'm sure as hell getting 240hz, hell even if the 500hz is ever going to be made, there will be a clear noticeable difference

[latent light]

I played battlefield 4 on xbox one which was 720p 60 fps

that resolution looked shit

[rose eagle]

i can never go back to getting up to turn the dial on my TV clockwise to change the channels

[steep gust]

144hz is amzing

240hz is not worth the cost dude

[unborn epoch]

yet

[steep gust]

Ever

[rose eagle]

ever

[unborn epoch]

tell that to VR

[steep gust]

Your reaction time isn't that small

[unborn epoch]

VR NEEDS 240hz if not more

[steep gust]

uh no

[unborn epoch]

uh yes

[steep gust]

VR needs 90hz

[unborn epoch]

uh no

[rose eagle]

VR needs humanHz

[steep gust]

90fps to avoid motion sickness

[unborn epoch]

motion sickness is the bare minimum

[latent light]

takes 13ms or more for an image to reach your brain

[steep gust]

monitors don't work how your eyes do

Your reaction time is like 200ms

[unborn epoch]

stop talking about god damn latency

[steep gust]

Our eyes see differences in colors

[unborn epoch]

it's about seeing individual images

[steep gust]

Alright

144hz is what

[unborn epoch]

aka ghosting

[steep gust]

3ms per frame?

You can't notice that

and if you do

go play CSGO and make money

[latent light]

any differences above 100hz are small

[unborn epoch]

my visual reactiontime is between 140 and 180ms actually 😄

180 on bad days

[steep gust]

So like 150-200

[unborn epoch]

again, it's not about latency

[steep gust]

Uh yes

[unborn epoch]

not after 144hz

[steep gust]

Ghosting happens due to a delay in frames

or a frame remains for too long

[unborn epoch]

yes, that has absolutely nothing todo with the latency majic istalking about

[latent light]

people play at higher refresh rates for latency and frame times

60hz is 16.67 ms between each frame I believe

[unborn epoch]

ideally you want to get rid of motion blur and let your eyes do the blurring

[steep gust]

You only buy a 240hz monitor for the imagery reduction in input lag / latency

[unborn epoch]

but you need insane high hz screens for that to happen

[steep gust]

So disable monitor blur in games?

It looks like shit anyways

[unborn epoch]

go play 120hz and 240hz, you will see the difference in fluidity

[steep gust]

Maybe after hours

But 240hz isn't worth it still

60 -> 144 was a huge jump

[unborn epoch]

4k 144hz isn't worth it either atm

it's too expensive

[steep gust]

Windows felt better

[latent light]

60hz and 75hz is noticeable

[steep gust]

144 -> 240 isn't very much

[unborn epoch]

in 20 years 240hz 4k is mainstream

[steep gust]

Uh big doubt

[unborn epoch]

probably 8k 144hz is mainstream by then

[steep gust]

Remember kids

10nm was suppose to be out in 2015

Hardware progression is slowly down hard

[unborn epoch]

doesn't have to be, just put more effort into better architectures

[latent light]

speeding back up because of competition in CPU market

hardware progression is slow in GPU market though

[unborn epoch]

it's fun being able to put more transistors in the same space

[steep gust]

Even CPUs

Its just more cores

and faster

Nothing actually special

[latent light]

we aren't seeing architectural differences anymore

[steep gust]

but people think more core = better

[unborn epoch]

soon companies will have to if they can't just make shit smaller

[latent light]

last big change in CPU architecture was going from FX to Ryzen

[steep gust]

So we get more cores

[unborn epoch]

is gud

[latent light]

more cores is becoming more relevant

[steep gust]

yeah

from 4c to 6c

in like 2 two games

[latent light]

games only used 2 cores in 2013, now games use 4-6 cores on average

[steep gust]

hell a lot of games don't even use 4

[unborn epoch]

it'll grow

[steep gust]

To maybe 8c

Beyond that nah

Too much work to optimize

[latent light]

it will grow definitely

[unborn epoch]

why not let the cpu handle the workload

you sound like bill gates but with less money on the bank

[latent light]

games will start creating more realistic engines which will utilize more cores

[unborn epoch]

"muh 640k)

[steep gust]

Uh yeah you realize the amount of work it takes to divide a workload across multiple cores?

Especially for games, were the CPU is constantly changing what it is doing

[unborn epoch]

you realize the amount of work it took to crack the enigma

cmon guy

thinking we're reaching performance peak is dumb

[steep gust]

For CPUs?

Hell yes we are

[unborn epoch]

for any calculator

[steep gust]

Until Intel gets their shit together

More and more of gaming is getting moved away from CPUs anyways

[latent light]

you can play at higher resolutions which draws the workload over to the GPU

which is why a Pentium G4560 will get similar framerates to a i7 at 4K

[steep gust]

eh

Not really anymore

since the 2080ti exists

[unborn epoch]

there's plenty of massive jumps to make in the computing world

[steep gust]

yeah and most isn't for gaming

[unborn epoch]

perhaps not the way we do it now in terms of architecture/materials

[latent light]

you don't need a $300 cpu for 4K gaming

[unborn epoch]

how is something like AI not a massive leap in gaming?

[gaunt dragon]

AI for tutorials, AI for enemies, AI for companions, AI for bosses.

[unborn epoch]

AI all the things!

[steep gust]

Most games are multiplayer

[gaunt dragon]

How does AI for tutorials and AI for bosses not apply to multiplayer

[unborn epoch]

yes

[steep gust]

Because most games are PvP

[unborn epoch]

put AI into multiplayer games

[steep gust]

So little tutorials and no bosses

[unborn epoch]

AI will be come as unpredictable as real players

create online worlds where you fight war with thousands of soldiers

[gaunt dragon]

That's a gross overestimate of what gaming currently is.

You're saying all gaming is PvP and multiplayer?

[steep gust]

The most popular games right now are PvP

[gaunt dragon]

And as such, the only leaps in technology should be accounted for those specific types of games?

[steep gust]

Fortnite, CSGO, LoL, Dota, PubG, BFV, BF1, etc

[unborn epoch]

I seen plenty of opportunity for AI to become a thing in games, even multiplayer

GTA would become very interesting

[latent light]

Spiderman on PS4 is more popular than all of those games

[gaunt dragon]

Legend of Zelda, Every mario title, Racing games, etc.

[unborn epoch]

Also we're thinking of AI as replacing personalities right now

AI can be put to use in the strangest ways

[gaunt dragon]

Not everything is an FPS multiplayer, and leaps in technology may not benefit those heavily, but they might in some way, and it will work wonder for other genre's. so is it fair to just call it "not for gaming"?

[unborn epoch]

ya, plenty to win for gaming, plenty.

if it isn

if it isn't for gaming directly, it will be used to create more efficient chips that we humans can't think of 😄

[gaunt dragon]

Imagine if the antagonist in a horror game could dictate what scared you the most, out of a set of events. Or a dog in a game that had physics, fluidity, and acted like...a dog, not a dog-replacement.

AI is neat, and it's not the only field that needs to be developed on heavily in tech.

[unborn epoch]

i want another jump in physics

halflife1->halfife2 was such an awesome jump

can we have another jump like that please

[quasi sparrow]

i'd love to see games take advantage of more threads

[unborn epoch]

calculate entire oceans and clouds in a volumetric way,. thaaanks

[quasi sparrow]

well, that's done with GPUs

[gaunt dragon]

but the thing is, if you have another jump that drastic, i don't see where else it can expand upon there, before being "too" realistic

[unborn epoch]

there's no too realistic

[gaunt dragon]

??

[quasi sparrow]

too mad we've made little progress in multi GPU scaling

[unborn epoch]

I mean, im some situations it might.

You might be able to create shooters so realistic people get PSTD from it.

[gaunt dragon]

You're telling me if the snow on the ground had a random ice patch, you fell down in the middle of a firefight only to get shot and die, and that's a "fun" physics engine?

It's true to real life, sure, but it's not fun.

[quasi sparrow]

games have made a lot of progress in graphics in the past several years, too little progress in actual gameplay

[unborn epoch]

There need to be limits, of course.

[gaunt dragon]

Exactly, you can't go much further in the case of physics, before giving up fun, for the sake of realism.

[unborn epoch]

But don't you want visuals where every single snowflake or single grain of sand can be influenced

[quasi sparrow]

i'd rather see a focus on moving towards like a 120Hz tick rate than on graphics

[unborn epoch]

There are major jumps to make in physics imo

[quasi sparrow]

at least until more graphical fidelity stops making games harder to play

[gaunt dragon]

Isn't that a leap in the field of graphics engines? less physics?

[unborn epoch]

no, that's all physics

it needs to become physics

[quasi sparrow]

tbh, in a shooter idrc about physics outside of movement and ballistics

[unborn epoch]

smoke now isn't physics based, it should though

[gaunt dragon]

i mean, it's all about the engine that interprets all the values the individual grains give you, to the actual hardware, no?

[quasi sparrow]

I think BF really overdid destruction

[gaunt dragon]

and how efficient that is?

[unborn epoch]

If you are running through a smoke greande, the smoke should follow you

it should trail

that's all physics

[quasi sparrow]

it's kinda cool until everything is flattened and the map design is ruined

[unborn epoch]

yes, you need limitations

[clear widget]

sometimes i cant see the enemy through my smoke but the enemy can see me

[unborn epoch]

that doesn't mean the tech shouldn't be there, in limited form

its like saying raytracing -> pathtracing is useless

or let's go back, tessellation was a useless invention

lets go back even more, bumpmapping, more? polygons

[clear widget]

tessellation and raytracing are both useless

[unborn epoch]

how exactly

[quasi sparrow]

raytracing is huge

[unborn epoch]

raytracing is a step towards pahtracing which will solve ALL Lightning issues

[clear widget]

divide your fps by 3 and get a less bright map

[quasi sparrow]

it's like the holy grail of graphics as far as we can see

[unborn epoch]

yes, in 1999 putting you resolution at 800x600 hacked your fps in half too

is 800x600 useless now?

[clear widget]

looks like ass as of right now for me and divides your fps by 3

[unborn epoch]

well, 800x600 is useless now

we're nearing 4K 😄

[clear widget]

sure in the future ray tracing may be the next step

but right now i mean

[unborn epoch]

that's what we're talking about though

sure, now raytracing eats too many resources

the tech is awesome but it's not ready

[clear widget]

tessellation is still ass tho

[unborn epoch]

i disagree, why is it ass?

[clear widget]

i turn it off every game

[quasi sparrow]

RTX by NVIDIA is a big step

[clear widget]

no point to it for me

[quasi sparrow]

live raytracing with dedicated components

[clear widget]

it doesnt make a noticable difference

[unborn epoch]

there are a shitton of tricks and hacks used to cheat you into thinking reflections you see or shadow you see is real

raytracing/pathtracing turns that into true shadows/reflections

[clear widget]

yes the future is bright

no pun intended

[unborn epoch]

[clear widget]

honestly tho i dont like super realistic looking games i like having lots of color and effects that even though unrealistic make the game look better

[unborn epoch]

all these techniques don't just create hyper realistic wordls

that's up to the artist

[clear widget]

its why BF5 looks so much better to me vs bf1

i feel like the fact that fortnite got so popular is a big middle finger to AAA titles that shoot for good graphics

[prime jasper]

I'll pass on RTX for now

[unborn epoch]

you shouldn't be aiming for rtx now anyway

only 1 title supports it at the moment at a major cost of performance

[prime jasper]

1080ti is the strongest card I'd want atm

Yeah ik

I was going to get a 2070ti, to replace my 1070ti, but then I saw the benchmarks

Changed my mind real quick

[unborn epoch]

ya no need

[clear widget]

when i heard the 2000 series will have raytracing and new tech i baught a 1080ti

because new tech always takes time

[unborn epoch]

yeah

[prime jasper]

RTX cards are at the point where I don't even consider them to exist

[clear widget]

its similar to the titan x but the titan x actually had power

[prime jasper]

If you tell me you have a Titan or 1080ti, I'll pass it off as you having the best card atm, RTX failed my expectations that hard

[clear widget]

but im happy to see it

[unborn epoch]

ya it's advancement, is gud

[clear widget]

it will get replicated perfected

[unborn epoch]

amd already said they are getting into it at a later stage

it needs to become standard

[clear widget]

but idk man it doesnt even look that good to me

im wondering if thats just because its new or because its not that impressive looking in general

[prime jasper]

Idk, I feel the same

[unborn epoch]

it's not impressive b ecause it replaced all other shadowing techniques too

[clear widget]

its like putting reflections up one more notch above ultra

[unborn epoch]

they are true reflections though

for example, fire reflections on the ground aren't even reflections

[clear widget]

sure but how does that translate into actual visuals

[unborn epoch]

they are just extra lightsources

it's fake

[clear widget]

seems like it would make designing a game easier if you made it with rtx only

[unborn epoch]

yes, definitely

you need less hacks and tricks

[clear widget]

if thats the case this is so big

if you made this standard game developers would be able to produce games cheaper and faster

and at better quality which is a win win

[unborn epoch]

of focus on other things

ya

eventually you'll be able to let AI generate huge parts of worlds/characters/weapons/whatever

[clear widget]

so like that one space game

[unborn epoch]

interesting stuff is ahead of us

i dont think there's a game out that does world creation using AI

but math, yes

[clear widget]

yes there is

i forgot the name tho

[unborn epoch]

no man's sky?

[clear widget]

yes

the map is generated by an ai

[unborn epoch]

that's just math and parameters, no high tech AI

i mean

AI is in a sense that

[clear widget]

sure but you mean ASI?

all current ai work through math and parameters

[unborn epoch]

does NSK have tech that learns and creates based on that?

that's what I'm referring to

[clear widget]

it still runs on parameters

[unborn epoch]

i mean creating procedural worlds isn't difficult

but sure, in a sense that's AI i guess

[clear widget]

if you give it a task outside of its parameters it wouldnt solve it unless it was an ASI that can think

[unborn epoch]

ya

[clear widget]

and adapt to the situation

you can make games with a simple ai tho just a really well programed one

[unborn epoch]

ya ofc

true ai is going to be the shiznit, if ever achievable

[clear widget]

its definitely achievable in theory and deep learning has proven it can work practically

technically if you made a program with every parameter possible you would make a super ai but thats basically impossible lol

[rose eagle]

i have a self learning ai that compiles a list of all known variables and constantly updates itself

[unborn epoch]

lets make a vidyagame someday majic

[rose eagle]

i do make vidya games

[unborn epoch]

ya im starting to do things in unity3d now too

[rose eagle]

i need someone who knows unity, i hate it

i just want to be the programmer

[unborn epoch]

you want a designer that knows how to unity

is that what you mean

[rose eagle]

if i could just keep VS open all day and never open unity, id be excited

[clear widget]

unity is complicated af

[unborn epoch]

the progrma itself isn't that hard to understand

the programming you have to do to make complicated things is, well, complicated

[steep gust]

So don't use unity

[rose eagle]

the programming is easy x_x

the unity side to do stuff is the annoying part

fk monkey work

setting up animations etc

animation controllers

[unborn epoch]

besides unity and unreal engine

what is there to use that doesn't require you to write your own massive engine

[rose eagle]

its easy, i just dont have time or desire to learn it

unity is good

[unborn epoch]

ya i thought so

[rose eagle]

wouldnt have made money without it

[clear widget]

dont you just feel bad for dice working so hard to make a stunning game but than EA marketing fucks it all up

[rose eagle]

EA hasnt impacted this game in any negative way

[clear widget]

no? "dont buy the game"

[steep gust]

What

That makes perfect sense tbh

Don't like it don't buy it

[clear widget]

85% lower preorders compared to bo4

[steep gust]

Pre-orders

BO4 is shit anyways

[clear widget]

it is

but it was marketed better

and it has more players because of that

EA handles marketing and if you thing BFV was marketed well ... you have some other problems to attend to

[steep gust]

BFV has no advertising

[rose eagle]

lol theres a 1300W EVGA G2 for $80

what the sht you gonna power with 1300w

[clear widget]

roblox

[rose eagle]

marketing screw ups are already resolved

anyone wh owants it still buys it

[clear widget]

go look at the statistics

this game got bombed

in terms of purchases

[rose eagle]

its great and i get instant games

[clear widget]

there is no hype

[rose eagle]

seems fine to me 😉

[clear widget]

the game is great thats not the issue

[rose eagle]

where are PC sales release numbers?

you'd need to add premiere numbers for first month as well

thats the shit stick of it all

[clear widget]

just a google search away

[rose eagle]

theres no info

[clear widget]

there is but it doesnt involve premier

[rose eagle]

top 5 results yield nothing related to last 3 days

[clear widget]

even if you estimate the premier in its not even close to being top 10 games right now

once again in terms of sales

thats whole lgbt thing and the developer calling people uneducated took a tool

[rose eagle]

It's #11 on amazon best digital sellers list atm whatever that means

he's gone he can lay an egg

[clear widget]

thats for the past month because it got released late

no competition

[rose eagle]

i mean why is BF1 #12

[clear widget]

thats current data

[rose eagle]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/most-wished-for/videogames/2445220011/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_mw

[clear widget]

and see the issue

[rose eagle]

this cant lie!!! 😄

#1 most wished, christmas here we come plebs everywhere!!!

WEWT

[clear widget]

once again CURRENTdata

[rose eagle]

i mean it was released in the middle of a ton of games

most of which people will play single player first before investing in something like V

Fallout 76 tanked i thought?

[clear widget]

no it wasnt it was released after alll the major releases

it did it sucks

[rose eagle]

type in pre order sales

in google, bfv show for you?

top hit lol

everyone is "wondering" and wants the game imo

itll become more successful over time.. screwed up release but you cant stop the best in series in years forever

[clear widget]

BECAUSE its the new game all the other large games have already come out

and compared to bo4 and rdr this game bombed

[rose eagle]

the important thing really is they fixed the fk ups

marketed completely away from claws

showed just gritty women

fired/dude leaving that was the SJW

delayed cosmetics

and Boins

[clear widget]

he didn't really get fired you have to read between the lines

[rose eagle]

thats why i put a /

i mean, imo the EA culture is Sales > people 😄

[clear widget]

it was controversy EA was trying to add so that they would get more attention and marketing

[rose eagle]

this time, it favored us

[clear widget]

it didnt go well for them

[rose eagle]

i feel like he didnt get his way

women just look like dudes, all you see is gritty faces

[clear widget]

idk man the high pitched screams piss me off

[rose eagle]

if his daughter wants to play she can be a dirty, same clothed soldier like everyone else

LOL

i love em now

esp when i fuckin kill em

it adds such intensity

[clear widget]

sounds like cutting a cats neck

[rose eagle]

like just shrieks of horror, adds to my enjoyment

[clear widget]

completely takes me out of the game

ruins any immersion i had

good talk...

[gaunt dragon]

I'm not exactly familiar with it so..

But if I attach 2 different monitors to 2 different inputs on the same graphics card, itll be able to run both?

[steep gust]

Yes

[gaunt dragon]

I've only done 2 different cards

Alright, cool.

That's now a DVI-VGA cable, an HDMI-DVI cable, mobo, cpu, ssd, all in the mail

Fuck me that's a lot of stuff o.o

Hopefully itll turn out to be worth it

Oh yeah, and the 2.5 to 3.5 converter I got as well, for the ssd

6 things total this paycheck for tech, money well spent

[rose eagle]

it normal to have 5-8 cpu idle doing nothing but then moving your mouse across the screen is 20%?

[unborn epoch]

ya, it's just the trojan adjusting

[rose eagle]

O_o

no rly lol

waving mouse just back and forth on screen for 5s

[unborn epoch]

happens to me as well

we have the same trojan i guess

[rose eagle]

is called windows

[latent light]

any sort of processing, including cursor movement, affects your CPU usage lol

[rose eagle]

didnt know mouse input was so cpu intensive x_x

[unborn epoch]

u want ur 20ghz MousE iNterPolAtioN

[rose eagle]

https://snag.gy/uohdrC.jpg

[red ingot]

What's that panda

[steep gust]

I mean it doesn't do it to me

[rose eagle]

cpu usage of just moving mouse all over

[steep gust]

but you have less cores

also use the per core graphs nerd

[red ingot]

Ah

Yeah and the server lag was back again today

But did they release the bfv sales numbers

Saw some discussion above about that

[rose eagle]

https://snag.gy/KukSt7.jpg

takes 4 cores to process mouse movement

[red ingot]

That seems high

And a lot

Just for mouse movement

[unborn epoch]

i get the same thing

[rose eagle]

in all cores?

that much?

[unborn epoch]

lets see

[red ingot]

Weird

[unborn epoch]

cpu 0 jumps highest

everything else is at 15% or something

0 is at 20? something like that

25% maybe

but im just super good at using mouse

im so fast, my cpu is having trouble

[red ingot]

O.o

[rose eagle]

ok this is weird.. on my 60hz its using all cores

on my 144 its almost 100%'ing 1 core

none others

just cpu 6 though

so not phys

[red ingot]

Weird

[rose eagle]

i mean i know theres some fkd up probs having a 60 + 144 connected

[red ingot]

Report back with your 9700k

[rose eagle]

i cant watch a video on my 60hz while playing a game

itll lag everything out to shit

but that problem is all over the internet

[red ingot]

Yeah

Prolly cause too much gpu

Or cpu

Or something

[placid holly]

try to fix those bugs in the game or you will lose your community again in less than 2 weeks just like what happened in BF1

<@&140941611415633920>

[granite kestrel]

lmao

[flint locust]

we arent devs LMAO

[strong breach]

[placid holly]

they told me this is an official channel for Dice thats why i joined

[unborn epoch]

fix the damn game hess

[flint locust]

[unborn epoch]

you knobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

[flint locust]

Don't get the idea to tag devs on here either telling them to fix the game.

[placid holly]

but you get the idea of playin a game full of bugs right !!

you are awesome

[pastel tartan]

[unborn epoch]

fix the darn game Atic, ffs.

[strong breach]

press the fix button at1c

[pastel tartan]

Its not working, i'm pressing it and nothing is happening

[flint locust]

gotta smash it

like its a like button on youtube

[vapid pebble]

Did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?

[pastel tartan]

Yeahh :/

[vapid pebble]

Welp, Im out of ideas.

[unborn epoch]

"anthem is out now"

oops wrong butan

[pastel tartan]

Me two, better call IT and see if they can figure out his mess

[strong breach]

we tried everything

let's try again 4th December

[red ingot]

Mission accomplished

[pastel tartan]

Sounds like a solid plan

[red ingot]

Everyone pack up and go home

[vapid pebble]

Had a good run

[red ingot]

Good job everyone

[pure roost]

my disappointment is immense. i bought a 27" Asus ROG 1440p 144hz monitor. and it was defective (occasional image corruption in left half of screen). had to go back. and then when researching other options to buy since i was now sketchy on that model because of it's color balance (photographers eye) ... i found out all the 144hz monitors are VA panels and almost none come in 32" (my other monitor is a 32" 4k monitor for image processing).. So return the defective 1440p144hz panel and ordered a 32" IPS 1440p samsung panel (i know their Image Q is good)

[red ingot]

Damn I got an rog 1440p 144hz and it was fine

Just the other day

I got the pg279q

[latent light]

all gaming Samsung monitors have FreeSync instead of G-sync

weird

[red ingot]

Although the one I got was an ips

And yeah I guess maybe they don't have a partnership with nvidia

[latent light]

I take FreeSync over G-sync anyday, but surprising to see a company with the best displays not have even one G-sync monitor lol

[red ingot]

Yeah

Although I thought FreeSync was AMD only?

[unborn epoch]

Yas

[red ingot]

Shh

No one asked for your opinion

Back to your hole

[unborn epoch]

Yas

[red ingot]

Yas girl slay

[pure roost]

@red ingot i had gotten the pg278qr

[red ingot]

Ah so a similar version

I think that's like the TN counterpart right

[latent light]

you can get a cheap AMD card like an RX 550 and use it as the primary gpu so you can pick your high-end nvidia card to play games on freesync

[pure roost]

i have a rtx 2080

oh yeah the framebuffer copy trick

[drowsy beacon]

All 144hz panels aren’t VA I have a 27” 1440p ips panel 144hz.

[uneven stone]

i love my parents

[pure roost]

joshrk: well all the ones available are VA.

plus i wanted a 32"

[red ingot]

Yeah same mines ips as well

[pure roost]

i just orderd a 32" 1440p 60hz traditional samsung IPS

[latent light]

27" seems like the perfect monitor size, but 32" is good if you like to sit back not be close to the monitor

[drowsy beacon]

60hz oof

With a 2080?

[pure roost]

my current "main" display, my image editing display, is a Asus ProArt

[red ingot]

60hz

Ouch

[pure roost]

joshrk: i get to crank up the quality and don't care

[red ingot]

Why did u downgrade

From a 144h

144hz

[pure roost]

i'll revisit 144hz when the technology is more mature

@red ingot the 144hz was the new one. i didn't like any of the others that were available. I'll revisit it when the tech is more mature

color accuracy on VA panels is unacceptable

[drowsy beacon]

Acer xb271hu is ips 165hz and gsync.

[red ingot]

U didn't like ips

[drowsy beacon]

Ips isn’t the same as VA

[unborn epoch]

Yas yas

[red ingot]

Yeah that's what I mean

[pure roost]

@drowsy beacon and 27" not 32"

[red ingot]

They have ips

144hz

It's like having sex while playing a game

[unborn epoch]

I love u

[red ingot]

I love u too

[pure roost]

@red ingot yes i know they do, but not in 32"

[drowsy beacon]

That’s how my daughter was made 😂

[red ingot]

❤

From having sex while playing a game

Damn

[unborn epoch]

Through anal?

[red ingot]

And u were fine with the 27" before

[unborn epoch]

Interesting

[pure roost]

@red ingot no, i really wasn't. but i was willing to compromise. but then i learned more and decided not to

[unborn epoch]

I want 32" 4k 144hz+ microled

[pure roost]

like i said: i'll revisit the tech when it's more mature

[red ingot]

Shush nick

[pure roost]

when i can get a 1440p144hz IPS HDR10 panel that isn't overpriced and is reliable i'll get it. so probably 5 years

[red ingot]

And play in 60hz? Nah

I'd rather commit sudoku

[unborn epoch]

Microled

[pure roost]

eh yeah the higher FPS was nice

but i've been playing in 60hz for 25 years. i can deal

[vapid pebble]

I could never go back to 60hz

[unborn epoch]

60hz is ok

[red ingot]

No

[unborn epoch]

If your name is stevie wonder

[red ingot]

Its painful

[vapid pebble]

I see what you did there

[unborn epoch]

[pure roost]

lets put i this way: image quality matters to me more than the added smoothness that higher refresh rate gives

[red ingot]

Oof

[pure roost]

i'm a photographer what do you expect

[red ingot]

So not gamer

[untold geode]

I hope everyone had a great thx giving now have a great holiday or Christmas 😃

[unborn epoch]

Ya

[red ingot]

🤔

True gamer = 144hz

[unborn epoch]

Isn't dual screen an option

[pure roost]

@red ingot not ONLY a gamer. but if you consider someone who has been playing games since 1993 not a gamer then...

makes a wanking motion

[untold geode]

I hope everyone had a great thx giving now have a great holiday or Christmas 😃

[red ingot]

What nick said

[untold geode]

agh

[red ingot]

1 photography monitor

[untold geode]

nvm

[red ingot]

1 gaming

[unborn epoch]

Dualdonger is certainly an option

[red ingot]

And I will have a great xmas

Ty

[vapid pebble]

Yeah, I could see having a real high quality monitor, 60hz or whatever, then one for gaming specifically.

[untold geode]

im try it one mroe time

I hope everyone had a great thx giving now have a great holiday or Christmas 😃

[red ingot]

Just like dual dildo is an option

I already said ty

@untold geode

[untold geode]

i give up

[red ingot]

🤔

[pure roost]

@unborn epoch i will be doing dual screen. 1440p for gaming, 4k for image processing. but i'm not going to accept shitty color reproduction on the main display

[drowsy beacon]

I have dual IPS panels. I can’t stand TN.

[red ingot]

Ips = shitty?

[unborn epoch]

Aight

[surreal compass]

I have an IPS monitor for movies and a VA 144hz for gaming

[red ingot]

Ok

[surreal compass]

IPS has the best color reproduction

but contrast is lacking compared to VA

[red ingot]

Ik

But apparently ips 144hz is no good

[pure roost]

@red ingot how many times have i had to tell you that no IPS displays in an acceptable size were available in 1440p144hz

[unborn epoch]

279pq is probably da best of both worlds

[drowsy beacon]

IPS > VA > TN

[red ingot]

Acceptable size

[surreal compass]

however in my personal experience, VA has pretty poor colors compared to IPS

[red ingot]

144hz > 32"

[pure roost]

no 32" were available, and 1 27" was available and it was a known bad model

@red ingot TO YOU

[red ingot]

To everyone

[pure roost]

@red ingot I know it might be hard to get your tiny fucking brain around, but not everyone has the same priorities as you, and your opinion doesn't rule the fucking world. grow up

[drowsy beacon]

There’s more than 1 27” model

[red ingot]

Wow

[drowsy beacon]

Wow

[unborn epoch]

Ya 32" 1440p 144hz won't happen

[red ingot]

Well that escalated quickly

[unborn epoch]

4k 144hz 32" will

[surreal compass]

some people take tech support personally

😛

[red ingot]

Don't have to be so salty sir

[pure roost]

can't imagine why i'd be annoyed with 5 minutes of childish trolling

[drowsy beacon]

Probably 5-10 years

[red ingot]

Well he seems like the guy that yells at the tech support guy

[pure roost]

I'm the guy who writes the fucking operating system

[red ingot]

Good for you?

Cookie for u sir?

[ocean valve]

calm down boys

[vapid pebble]

Tech is no joke!

[pure roost]

and doesn't have patience for people who think that their opinion is the one true answer to rule them all

maybe grow the fuck up and you won't get called out for being an asshole

[red ingot]

You're the one taking an internet conversation 100% seriously

[unborn epoch]

Pls b nice

[red ingot]

And er I don't see how I'm being an asshole.

[pure roost]

yes yes it being on the internet is totally an excuse for your bad behavior

completely

[red ingot]

Okay

[pure roost]

and the sun rises in the west

[unborn epoch]

Pls

[pure roost]

now i'm going to go headshot some scrubs with the M1A1

[red ingot]

So I'm an asshole and having bad behaviour. W.e.

[ocean valve]

i'll stop you right there both of you. enough... -_-

[red ingot]

I'm dropping this

[unborn epoch]

More Starbucks less anger

[prime jasper]

Hahaha internet fight 🙏🤩

[red ingot]

I'm gonna go get a PSL

And be basic

[unborn epoch]

Poop scooper large?

U big boy

[prime jasper]

😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣

[red ingot]

Yes

Venti for me

[unborn epoch]

Venti poop scooper

[red ingot]

With extra whip

[latent light]

[prime jasper]

[rose eagle]

💦

[red ingot]

🍆

[unborn epoch]

Should I get sennheiser hd6xx from massdrop

[latent light]

inb4 someone tells you to get HyperX cloud II instead

[unborn epoch]

[lofty light]

Should get the Logitech G933 instead

[unborn epoch]

Im looking for something decent that isn't beyerdynamic

[steep gust]

Rip my golden 8600k

5.3ghz @1.4v ez

5.4ghz @1.5v BSOD

Kids be doing 5.5ghz @1.5v

[latent light]

didn't know you could push past 1.4v

[steep gust]

I can do 2.1v

On LN2 BIOS

[latent light]

get liquid nitrogen and try it

[steep gust]

1.4v is the daily limit

[latent light]

[steep gust]

You can go up to 1.5ish volts for benchmarks

Without extreme cooling

I can do most of Cinebench at 5.4ghz

Gonna tweak it around and maybe go up to 1.52v

I don't think its temperature but I should also watch that

[rose eagle]

does the noctua d15 cool more efficiently or less than a water block with solder vs TIM or no difference?

[steep gust]

Obviously a custom loop will win

[lofty light]

Look at reviews I guess

[steep gust]

And solder is better than Intel paste

[rose eagle]

i mean the d15 barely is beaten by any aios, thats the only consideration im still having

im still undecided on having water in my PC 😄

[lofty light]

AIO you'd normally be better off with the noctua

[rose eagle]

i mean, i wonder why?!

[steep gust]

You can buy a copper AIO and crush a D15

[lofty light]

I went from the noctua to an AIO though just because I kept cutting my fingers on it

And it looks ugly as sin

[steep gust]

The issue is when they compare stuff on non-delidded CPUs so the Intel paste is the limiter

[rose eagle]

it affects one more than the other?

[steep gust]

Nah it is the same

Waterblocks and a D15 both use a copper contact plate

[latent light]

copper blocks are a lot better than aluminum ones

copper is better at transferring heat while aluminum is better at dissipating it into air

[rose eagle]

if the d15 went on any sales at all i was going to get one but it has just remained a fkin rock through black friday

and never seems to go on sale

looking at camelcamelcamel it just stays at $90 and sometimes $80 best bet, ever

but i mean yea, it eats your entire case lol

i have the 212 evo now and i thought it was big 😄

[naive trench]

parts for new build ordered, now I have to play the waiting game :(((

[gaunt dragon]

Amen

[naive trench]

and I know the gpu is gonna take a while

[latent light]

[rose eagle]

welp, newegg is outta stock on the evga so gotta wait on it regardless

[latent light]

what evga

[rose eagle]

my $50 credit is through them x_x

the CLC 280 cooler

[latent light]

lol

get a EK custom waterloop kit

[rose eagle]

it supposedly syncs with my gpu so may as well use same software

[latent light]

[naive trench]

ek = $

[rose eagle]

yea no, ill go d15 before i put a custom loop in my rig

[latent light]

[rose eagle]

i got a kid, im not an enthusiast

i pay money for stuff to just work best possible

[naive trench]

for my new one im running 2x kraken x62's

[rose eagle]

with no work, i got no free time ever again

[wispy wing]

What refresh rate should be use for a Logitech G series mouse ? 500 or 1000?

[naive trench]

highest possible

[gaunt dragon]

Changing to windows 10 has not fixed my issue, btw

After checking for the hell of it, on the off chance it was 8.1 for whatever reason

[red ingot]

are the cyber monday deals really any better than black friday

or any different at this point

[lament thistle]

Sometimes

[quasi sparrow]

depends on what kinda hardware you're shopping for

[fringe sorrel]

someone use shadowplay to record BF1/BFV replays?

my shadowplay only record in 720p

[lofty light]

I use windows DVR

[fringe sorrel]

I find a post talking to add Window.Height 1080 and Window.Width 1920 on user.cfg, but after this my shadowplay record at 1920x1060.

[lofty light]

Are you running windowed?

[fringe sorrel]

@lofty light I completely disable DVR on my PC because this he drop some frames on Overwatch for me ^^'

Nope, fullscreen

but BFV start at windowed

BF1 and BFV start at windows 720p mode, and after 2-3 second change to fullscreen mode

but shadowplay bug with this and only record in 720p

if I creater a user.cfg config to force start at 1920x1080 shadowplay record at 1920x1060 IDK why...

if I disable instant replay after the game launch and enable again, shadowplay record in 1080p

but I need to disable/enable instant replay every time as I start the game

exist any console command to start the game at fullscreen mode to put on user.cfg?

I alredy try GstRender.FullscreenEnabled 1 but didn't work 😦

well... apparently even DRUNKKZ3 have this problem https://twitter.com/drunkkz3/status/1060529950787334144

I give up

Dice fix pls

[quasi sparrow]

https://clips.twitch.tv/WildRacyArugulaSoBayed

[rigid knoll]

Mehh, only shitty cybermonday deals around here

[prime jasper]

Shadowplay is super buggy in general

If you use Spotify, it doesn't work 70% of the time

[crude storm]

ALT + Enter into / out of the game freezes my whole system 😛 amazing

[crisp shoal]

alt+enter is the hotkey to switch between fullscreen and windowed
alot of games don't handle it well if you switch alot
I use alt+tab that works great

[crude storm]

yeah, problem is just, game starts in windowed mode and i need to press alt+enter to get it into full screen

[crisp shoal]

oh

normally it goes fullscreen byitself after a few seconds

[prime jasper]

Anyone else unable to get sound from PC speakers?? But it works fine with wireless headsets???

[crisp shoal]

@prime jasper have you tried deactivating the wireless headphones in your sound settings?

[wispy wing]

pc speaker sound is on nvidea driver. for me at least. i had that issue once i reinstalled the driver.

[crisp shoal]

Just deactivate everything you don't need and then restart the game
if it doesn't work by then look in the sound options if there is a way to select a specific audio playback device

btw
for everyone who is experiencing random fps drops
I have a gtx970 and the latest drivers caused all of my games to have major fps drops
I now installed the one before that which seems to run fine.

[wispy wing]

@crisp shoal fps drop with frame render off. Right now dx12 is smooth and frame render off gives higher fps than dx11 frame render on. gtx1070

[crisp shoal]

oh wow rly?
need to try that out

[prime jasper]

@crisp shoal yeah I've done all of that...what's more odd too...is when I start a cut scene with no sound the game also plays the cut scene in fast forward...the oddest issue I've ever had.

[crisp shoal]

thats.. odd

[rigid knoll]

@wispy wing Yea, I think DX12 is smoother on my gtx 1070 as well. But FFR on yields better fps

[unborn epoch]

My timberlands are swag as fuck

[rose eagle]

Well that price made decisions easier for cooling. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N16CAKN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Xda.BbRDAKFBX

[unborn epoch]

niiice

[wispy wing]

@rigid knoll do u notice input lag with ffr on dx12 ?

[rose eagle]

Ram out for delivery today, mobo is just one state North... Might get everything by Weds including cooler.

[unborn epoch]

this guy

new fps everything

[rigid knoll]

@wispy wing only a placebo effect. But I haven't tested it that much. I tried few times toggling it on-off and went for the better fps

[rose eagle]

Yeh I just realized I replaced whole PC lol

Case, ram, cpu, mobo, gpu all in last month.

Psu

Yep nothing left

[crisp shoal]

oh which gpu did you get?

I think of buying a trx2070

rtx*

[unborn epoch]

he got that one as well

[rigid knoll]

I wanna see some benchmarks for RTX2080 for BFV@3440x1440

[prime dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sknBUS7ucCM

Has his FR in top left

@rigid knoll

[stone jackal]

Anyone on PC figure out how to make a PS4 controller work? Id like to have it plugged in and usable in the planes

[prime dune]

Most of the time I just plug mine in and it works, but I havent tried with bf5 yet

[stone jackal]

@prime dune same but it doesnt want to work. saw BF1 users had issues as well since EA supports microsoft only

[prime dune]

Hmm, I'll give it a go tonight

[rigid knoll]

@prime dune thanks!

[prime dune]

np

[rigid knoll]

Not too bad for ultra. Medium might go to solid 100fps with all camera effects turned off?

[rose eagle]

what is this blasphemous website claiming a 2700x isnt a bottleneck for 1440p no matter what gpu

unless you own a 2080Ti

[rigid knoll]

Hm, I have only 6700k

[sonic osprey]

well it all depends on what all the cpu has to calculate per frame and how long gpu takes to render per frame

usually resolution is involved more with gpu than cpu

[raw turtle]

Bf uses much of the cpu

[storm osprey]

bf uses everything

[raw turtle]

Cuz of that i bought a ryzen 7 2700x for my i5 4690k

[rose eagle]

yea i mean my 3770k does fine 90% of the time

no telling what the real results of the 2700x are during the entire round

[sonic osprey]

so in theory "bottlenecking" because of cpu is because of GPU can process data faster than cpu can prepare it

[rose eagle]

yea the gpu is just sitting idle waiting for frames to process

my 2070 is 70% active

i mean, it's hard to exactly 100% both your cpu and gpu

[sonic osprey]

Yeah, in overwatch i have only 50% cpu utilization and 50% gpu, 200frames, my slow ram is only reason my cpu load wont go higher, and my cpu is reason why my gpu load wont go higher

[rose eagle]

you should ensure your CPU is not a bottleneck and go from there though

you can always add settings to GPU

i can 130% res scale 1440p to 100% my GPU

but id rather throw more frames at it so i got a new CPU

[sonic osprey]

yeah more stable frames is good

it is far better to have like 140-180 than between 60-100

[rose eagle]

100 min would be amazing but at 1440p that's too rich an order

[sonic osprey]

my 2080 is about maxed in bfv with high and 3840x1080 res

and cpu about 75-90

[rose eagle]

thats a bit over 2k res

[sonic osprey]

like 15% more

[rose eagle]

i assume you have like 130fps or so?

[sonic osprey]

90-120

[rose eagle]

yea i guess you'd need to turn Post and Lighting down to get what i do

[sonic osprey]

just high preset

[rose eagle]

yea but at that point you should use ultra textures, filtering

[sonic osprey]

hate this downtime after work, 1h20min to be at golf practive, not really enough time to enjoy gaming or do anything properly

[rose eagle]

i just use TryHard settings ;P

texture quality, filtering, mesh, terrain qual ultra, everything else low/off

[sonic osprey]

yeah, texture quality dont matter that much with DDR6 and rtx cards

not like they cap the memory per map

[rose eagle]

ultra textures wont impact FPS so may as well

you just use high setting?

[sonic osprey]

yeah

[rose eagle]

delete that sentence please, lol

[sonic osprey]

:(

[rose eagle]

and spend your 1h20 to go fix your settings ;P

[unborn epoch]

i found a sweet deal on HUE bulbs

[rose eagle]

i need a new 15" sub

[unborn epoch]

MORE RGB IN MY ROOM IS MORE FPS RIGHT?

[sonic osprey]

only if there is no more wall space to fit more rgb

[rose eagle]

is def moar FPS, more stimulation

[sonic osprey]

otherwise you are rbg capping your fps

[rose eagle]

RGB ram + cpu waterblock RGB coming = more FPS

looking over at my rig will give me a semi

higher KD

if you has clear window to your case, the hue RGB will energize your components

[sonic osprey]

I do want the nzxt manta case

[rose eagle]

stupid ass 970 Evo's are enticing me

but my OS drive would need one first before gaming

HDD isnt really even used after level load at all

[unborn epoch]

hdd is POOP

you are in the game last

which makes you a poopgamer

[sonic osprey]

^

[rose eagle]

lol well i doubt a 970 evo would load faster than 850 ;D

[sonic osprey]

you need faster ram too then

[rose eagle]

indeed, fill that GPU

if i got a 500gb id be severely conflicted using it for OS or Games

250gb isnt good enough deal

[storm osprey]

just waiit

im waiting for 1tb for 100 bucks or 500 gb for 50 bucks samsung evo

[rose eagle]

970? x_x

but... all my parts come weds proll

i reformattin!

[unborn epoch]

[raw turtle]

550 watt psu enough for vega 64?