technology

[unborn epoch]

our as in physical limit? not at all

[red ingot]

i've heard about quantum computing but like everyone's like nope not touching that with a 10 foot pole cause it's a whole nother level of complexity

[unborn epoch]

our as in current know-how? ya, pretty close.

[steep gust]

Quantum computing right now isn't useful

Since the amount of computing power needs to increase by magnitudes but that its own issues

[red ingot]

had some guy come into my class once who works in tech to give us a talk, and i asked him about quantum computing, and he was all like nope that's like waaaay above my understanding lol

too much math

[steep gust]

tldr you cool shit to near 0K

and stuff happens that can used for computing

The issue is scaling that to be useful

[unborn epoch]

most of our problems (software=solutions) we have now don't work well on quantum chips

simple binary chip is way faster

or at all

[red ingot]

cause apparently quantum is infinitely faster

like 512 bit encryption would take thousands of years for a binary chip to solve, but roughly 4 seconds for quantum

i saw that at a museum

there was a quantum computing exhibit

[unborn epoch]

ya you can't translate that power to any problem

[red ingot]

oh ok

[unborn epoch]

I don't know the finest details, I tried out of interest but I gave up.

[steep gust]

It depends on the workload

I can't remember the exacts but somethings don't scale to quantum computers

[red ingot]

cause apparently binary chips work linearly, as in they have to try every problem in sequence, but quantum can work all problems at once

that's what i understood

they had a little diagram that showed it

idk how to explain it if u understand what i mean

i don't really understand it too well either

im just super curious

[unborn epoch]

if you want to build a megaswagcomputer5000 you'd need different types of chips, not just a bunch or single quantum cpus

[steep gust]

but considering that cracking 256 bit encryption is near impossible

[red ingot]

interesting

apparently not with quantum

thats like a fraction of a second apparently

[steep gust]

Yeah theoretically

[red ingot]

which is scary to think about

like shit all of our current encryption will be rendered useless

and apparently the official answer for that is "we don't know"

[steep gust]

There's other ways for encryption

[red ingot]

i suppose

encryption is way beyond me cause it's all hardcore math and my brain is like nope when it comes to math

in any other life (i.e. if i was actually decent at math) i'd probably be a programmer cause i find it interesting, but i can't understand logic/math for the life of me

just not my forte which is fine

[steep gust]

programming doesn't take any math

[red ingot]

idk

[unborn epoch]

it does take logic

[red ingot]

yeah

logic/math

along the same strain imo

[unborn epoch]

if you already fail at logic thinking in the sense of abstract thinking, programming is not for you

[red ingot]

that's what i mean

i suck at making simple programs, which is okay, cause i just do it as a hobby sometimes

no way i'd succeed at it for a career i'd tear my hair out

if i get mad i just quit and put it away lol

[unborn epoch]

you do learn by seeing many different problems

[red ingot]

and then sometimes if u wanna do complex shit u do need mathy stuff

[steep gust]

Breaking a symmetric 256-bit key by brute force requires 2128 times more computational power than a 128-bit key. Fifty supercomputers that could check a billion billion (1018) AES keys per second (if such a device could ever be made) would, in theory, require about 3×1051 years to exhaust the 256-bit key space

Quantum computers are like fusion reactors

Its always "Within the next 10 years"

[red ingot]

ah

[steep gust]

Like Intel 10nm

[red ingot]

yeah

it's super ironic how i hate math so much and yet i'm going into accounting

although it seems i can do better when all the numbers have meaning rather than being variables/equations/theory

[unborn epoch]

I had a problem understanding the concept of variable for a long time

(when i was a lot younger)

I'm a slow ass learner unfortunately

[main anchor]

im so glad i went with an intel cpu

[red ingot]

same here @unborn epoch

[steep gust]

i'm so glad you don't care about price to performance

[red ingot]

lol

[steep gust]

or future upgrades

[red ingot]

idk for me an extra couple hundred $$ isn't gonna break the bank

[steep gust]

Intel comes out with a new chipset / (Sometimes socket) every 2 years or so

AM4 is supported until 2020

[red ingot]

so like 1 year

[unborn epoch]

Who cares about saving $150 on a motherboard.

[red ingot]

that's what i mean

[unborn epoch]

It's a lot easier to sell them as upgrade kits

[red ingot]

$150 extra spread out over like 4-5 years (at least) isn't bad

[steep gust]

$150 on a motherboard

[red ingot]

extra $150

[steep gust]

More like $250 for a solid motherboard on a new generation

$150 Z370 boards were shit at launch

[red ingot]

so like $250 vs $100 = extra $150

the $100 is a sunk cost

[steep gust]

sunken cost fallacy is bad

[red ingot]

well sunk cost fallacy is where u see it as $250 vs $150

u forget that u were gonna spend $100 either way

so it's really not $250, it's just an extra $150

[main anchor]

my previous amd cpu was loud and hot

[red ingot]

sounds like my ex

[steep gust]

[red ingot]

[steep gust]

Have you seen the current Intel CPUs

[main anchor]

this i5-8600k is cool and quiet

[steep gust]

yeah no

8600k gets toasty

without a delid

[red ingot]

hey well it's a 2 in 1

computer & space heater

gets cold up here in Canada

[steep gust]

If its not cool then its not quiet

Yeah FX got hot

But Rzyen is cool

[unborn epoch]

just delid your chip

no big deal

[steep gust]

For most people it is

[red ingot]

[steep gust]

Invalidates your warranty

[red ingot]

yeah idk if i'd trust myself delidding

[steep gust]

and some people exaggerate the risk

[red ingot]

knowing my luck i'd somehow fuck it up

[steep gust]

$35 for a tool

You fuck that up then you deserve it

[unborn epoch]

ya

[red ingot]

😦

[unborn epoch]

you can't fuck up a delid really

[red ingot]

idk

im clumsy

[unborn epoch]

liquid metal is a bit tricky

[red ingot]

i feel like i would

[unborn epoch]

but the delidding process literally takes no brain

[red ingot]

and then rip my brand new $500 CPU

i thought it was risky

[steep gust]

liquid metal isn't really risky if you use a q-tip

It doesn't spread

Since its surface tension be high

[unborn epoch]

ya it doesn't, but you have to know it can jump out of the syringe if you use it for the first time or haven't for a while

[red ingot]

methinks i'll just not delid

and have a space heater

[steep gust]

Use something other than your CPU to put the LM on

[unborn epoch]

my 7700k dropped 20c, it's crazy

[steep gust]

Then spread it onto the die

yeah Intel CPUs need a delid to run cool

or nowadays

[red ingot]

or maybe i'll try it on my old cpu

when i upgrade

do a test run

so if i fuck it up nbd

idk

[steep gust]

Razor blade to remove the solder

Lapping the IHS

and lapping the die

[red ingot]

doesn't sound sketchy

[steep gust]

which is a lot more risk

[red ingot]

[steep gust]

Silicon is fucking hard so cutting it with a blade is near impossible

[unborn epoch]

you actually need to lap the ihs on some chips

[red ingot]

using a razor blade to slice it open

[steep gust]

You use a delid tool to break the solder

[unborn epoch]

wait, delidding a soldered chip what is this

is that worth it/possible?

[steep gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Doo-zgyQs

Yes and its worth not buying the CPU to began with

or wait until silicon lottery starts offering delidded 9900k

Since the tools to consistently lap something isn't cheap

[unborn epoch]

a piece of glass is cheap

[steep gust]

Peak core temperatures under a heavy overclocked load typically decrease anywhere from 4°C to 8°C for Intel 9th generation CPUs. Delidding may take up to one business day to complete, depending on current pre-delidded inventory available.

[unborn epoch]

i really hope intel steps up their game on this

[steep gust]

From silicon lottery

[unborn epoch]

it's getting ridiculous

[steep gust]

Who does delids for like $60

Intel bring back paste

A piece of glass is cheap

the sandpaper to lap silicon is less so

[red ingot]

4-8c

that's not a huge amount..

[unborn epoch]

ya

they did improve it over the older generation chips

13c if you sand down the silicon

damn

i wont ever go that far, but damn

[craggy dagger]

are you guys talking about thermal paste

[unborn epoch]

that's part of it yeah

thermal paste between the heatspreader and cpu that is

[craggy dagger]

what's thermal paste

[robust dagger]

the stuff on the cpu

[craggy dagger]

a paste to cool up your cpu?

ayyy

[robust dagger]

between cpu and fan. it closes small air gaps so that the heat can flow better

hey btw

[craggy dagger]

i said ayy because i was right, i dont know you...

😦

[robust dagger]

lol

[craggy dagger]

sry

[rose eagle]

top mounted AIO = fail

[unborn epoch]

wju

why

[rose eagle]

heat rises

the gpu produces a lot of heat and goes straight through the rad

[red ingot]

yeah

but what u do instead is make your top rad an intake

😄

front intake top intake back exhaust

you're welcome

[rose eagle]

thats an insane amount of positive pressure

[red ingot]

i like positivity in my life

well what's your solution then

im curious

[prime jasper]

Time to manually crack a SSH key amirite @steep gust

[craggy dagger]

nobody answered my question, DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY BUY MULTIPLE GPUS?

[red ingot]

not really

not worth it

unless u want it for benchmarks

[craggy dagger]

WHY IS THAT A THING?

[red ingot]

benchmarks

[prime jasper]

Yes, some people do

[rose eagle]

i mean im assuming most all rads are set up with intake

[prime jasper]

Because they are elitists

[red ingot]

okay or elitists

[prime jasper]

If you have the money to waste, go for it

[red ingot]

so like what's your setup @rose eagle

[craggy dagger]

does it even do something

[green nebula]

I'd buy a Multiple GPU set up if all games supported SLI.

[prime jasper]

Yes, not by much though

[green nebula]

and supported it well enough

[rose eagle]

im still debating a cheaper $100 top mount vs 360 front mount

but i might even still go with a 280 in the front

[red ingot]

not all games support it, performance doesn't scale well, and u get microstutter

so you front mount your rad?

[rose eagle]

that's my current plan, a floe riing 360 is hella expensive

[red ingot]

hm

cause rn i actually have my rad mounted on the top as an exhaust, not intake

although i said intake - i read somewhere that that works but i've been too lazy to change mine around

cause it's working fine

[rose eagle]

your fans are on the bottom blowing out?

through the rad?

[red ingot]

no, they're on the top, although they're blowing out

fans

rad

[rose eagle]

yea so that seems less than optimal to me because the hot air from your CPU/GPU/Case is now heating the rad exhausting through it

[red ingot]

yeah

[unborn epoch]

topmount is great because you have crazy outtake

[red ingot]

but my CPU doesnt go higher than like 60c under full load

[unborn epoch]

= cooler overall case

[red ingot]

so im like meh its working

[rose eagle]

im not saying get rid of top exhaust

[red ingot]

i guess i could front mount my rad tho

[rose eagle]

we're just talking rad optimization

[red ingot]

but fuck if im gonna get in there and change it

too lazy

unless im doing an upgrade

😄

[rose eagle]

i dont think blowing into the case from top would be a good idea either

[red ingot]

ive heard that it is

[rose eagle]

you need that air exhausted

[red ingot]

yeah that's what my thought process was when i set this up

like 5 years ago

xD

[rose eagle]

i mean you're blowing cool air down onto your GPU but causing it to go towards the bottom of your case

forcing a weird airflow

[red ingot]

true

[rose eagle]

lol Hess

[strong breach]

[red ingot]

So I guess optimally I'd front mount it

[rose eagle]

id be curious if you lose 10c 😉

[red ingot]

Well

Maybe if u give me those 9700k benchmarks and gimme a reason to upgrade

[rose eagle]

lol

[red ingot]

Although I'd need a new case too cause not enough room to fit my rad in the front on this one

Sigh

[rose eagle]

i only have like 75mm in my meshify

[red ingot]

Kinda want a new case anyways

They have super sexy looking ones now

Like the all glass ones

[rose eagle]

yeh but i gots mine for $75!

[red ingot]

My only issue with that is portability cause how tf am I gonna haul an all glass case to a LAN party and not damage it

[rose eagle]

27mm rad, 26mm fans

17mm plenty clearance to GPU 😄

[unborn epoch]

glass should work just fine, depending if you have your own car

[craggy dagger]

i dont have any sound in bfv. help?

[red ingot]

I do have my own car

I'm also clumsy

And I don't wanna scratch my sexy all glass case

Although I've heard desktop carrying cases are a thing

[unborn epoch]

don't remove the plastic foil from case then

[red ingot]

Although I can't seem to find any

[unborn epoch]

=]

[red ingot]

Um excuse me

[rose eagle]

wrap it in bubble wrap

[red ingot]

Removing the plastic foil is singlehandedly the best part of any unboxing

That seems like a lot of work panda

I'm lazy remember

[unborn epoch]

use use your blanket or whatever clothing you have

[red ingot]

I need something to accommodate both being clumsy and lazy with good looks

Did u just assume I own clothes

[unborn epoch]

ya

[red ingot]

I'm a nudist

[unborn epoch]

filthy clothes

[red ingot]

[sonic osprey]

keep the case cardboard box, put computer there, use bubblewrap to cover empty space

[unborn epoch]

wrap your case in foreskin

[red ingot]

See at least @sonic osprey gave a good suggestion

And omg ffs

If u really must know I don't have any foreskin to wrap it in

Now I can successfully look at sexy cases with a way to transport it

[unborn epoch]

go to the hospital and look for it in the biohazard garbage bin

or your local synagoge

i don't know you too well

[red ingot]

Oh goodness

[unborn epoch]

i know

we should meet

[red ingot]

We should

Come to Canada

[rose eagle]

if i come do i get a free donair?

[craggy dagger]

help

[red ingot]

Yes

I'll give u a free donair if u come

[rose eagle]

the last time i ate one i shit all over the airport bathroom

leaving canada

i left you guys a present

[red ingot]

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139087

That's hot panda

What do u guys think

Of the case

[unborn epoch]

meh

[rose eagle]

nah

[unborn epoch]

if you go towards that pricerange i'd go for lian li

[rose eagle]

if i didnt buy my meshify C i would have gotten a Lian Li 011 Dynamic

[unborn epoch]

http://www.lian-li.com/pc-o11-dynamic

[rose eagle]

❤

[unborn epoch]

how much cna you get that one for, yagman

[rose eagle]

knew you were my soulmate

[unborn epoch]

ya ❤

[rose eagle]

there's a ton of room in the O11

[unborn epoch]

id i'd have a reasonable budget and have to build something

i;d use that case + custom cooling

[rose eagle]

but i still got the meshify c because i got an amazing deal on eet

that case is literally double the cost

[unborn epoch]

ya meshify c is nice

[craggy dagger]

guys please help i cant hear anything in bfv

[rose eagle]

theres no help

[craggy dagger]

what?

[rose eagle]

reboot

[red ingot]

Sexy

[craggy dagger]

i did

[rose eagle]

and if that doesnt work, reformat

[craggy dagger]

d

[rose eagle]

😄

[red ingot]

Its $110-170 in Canada (depending on model)

[rose eagle]

unplug it and plug it back in 😄

[red ingot]

Which is not bad price

[unborn epoch]

nice nice, i'd go for that

[rose eagle]

literally just BFV?

[unborn epoch]

corsair is probably a bit more cuz it has RGB stuff

[rose eagle]

you turn windows volume up and down and it beeps?

[unborn epoch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mVsOf4UT2E if you play that do you start headbanging?

if not, your sound doesn't work

[rose eagle]

yea i think i need to be budget friendly here and get the EVGA 280 AIO

it cools as good as the Floe Riing 360

[red ingot]

There's so many options

Ugh

[rose eagle]

$100 vs $175

[red ingot]

Idk what I want guys

Hal0

Halp

Pl0x

[rose eagle]

O11

[unborn epoch]

man if only caselabs was still a thing and used glass panels

[red ingot]

There's like 4 011 models

Ugh

Idk

[unborn epoch]

ya white/black and with/without verticle mount i thikn

[red ingot]

I'm not getting a new case till I upgrade my cpu anyways

No point in tearing everything apart just to tear it apart again

Cause I'm lazy

[rose eagle]

until after the 1st when i report BFV is 5% better? 😄

[red ingot]

And I'm gonna wanna upgrade

Yeah really

:D

[rose eagle]

with this weird low framerate issue the last 2 days tho.........

im very confused

[red ingot]

Ikr

Same here

[unborn epoch]

ur puter dying

[rose eagle]

i need a different bench but V is the only thing that matters

[red ingot]

Every other fucking game runs fine

Except bfv

[rose eagle]

if servers take a shit it shouldnt affect local FPS...

soooo this makes no sense

no patches

i guess they could be syncing extra destruction

no client patch but tons more tracked shit

[unborn epoch]

ur puter dyin

[rose eagle]

i dunno, somethin be fkd

[unborn epoch]

ur puter cryin

[rose eagle]

ur lyin

ur spyin and tryin to kill my lion

[unborn epoch]

no 😹

i haven't had any ussies in bfv

haven't played it either

[red ingot]

Can't have issues if u don't play

Next level genius

[unborn epoch]

is playing Ice Cube - No Vaseline

[rose eagle]

well you shouldnt need vasoline if you put an ice cube in there

[red ingot]

What

Are we talking about what I think we're talking about

[unborn epoch]

i guess that's true, freezing = numbing

[red ingot]

Okay maybe not

[unborn epoch]

ya i'm completely lost right now

[red ingot]

Same

I thought u guys were talking about using an ice cube as a substitute for lube

[craggy dagger]

whats wrong with bfv???

[red ingot]

many things sir

[craggy dagger]

I litteraly cant hear anything

[red ingot]

restart game

restart pc

restart speakers/headset

[sonic osprey]

found the case I want https://www.nzxt.com/products/manta-matte-black

[red ingot]

restart power grid

restart the world

[sonic osprey]

wonder when they start making those, since its just concept still (?)

[red ingot]

sleek and sexy

god dammit

[rose eagle]

yuck, need box

[red ingot]

now im literally back to square one

idk what i want anymore

[rose eagle]

looks like a futuristic egg

i dun like

[red ingot]

but, futuristic

[sonic osprey]

well I do want mini itx for next case

since hauling the medium tower case is painful

[red ingot]

true

worth the pain imo

[unborn epoch]

buy this then www.ncase.com

[red ingot]

ive also found desktop carrying straps that ship to the us

but not canada

doesnt exist nick

[unborn epoch]

https://www.incase.com/

[red ingot]

https://incasedesigns.ca/

[unborn epoch]

im an idiot

[red ingot]

i know

there's a lot of sexy backpacks

[unborn epoch]

wait what happened to their M1

[red ingot]

but i dont see anything for carrying a desktop

[unborn epoch]

oh they are sold https://www.sfflab.com/products/ncase_m1 there now

https://www.sfflab.com/collections/accessories-1/WALLYE this is the carrying case

[red ingot]

der we go

[unborn epoch]

dan case is even smaller but too limited on cooling and psu

[sonic osprey]

wont fit RTX card in that case though

317mm max length

[unborn epoch]

oh shit did they become bigger

that's a shame

[sonic osprey]

327mm

some might be smaller though

[unborn epoch]

is that reference?

[sonic osprey]

just my msi TRIO is 32.7 the watercooled sea hawk model is 26.8, so it would fit

[unborn epoch]

if you go ncase you want to use an arctic accelero gpu cooler anyway

[sonic osprey]

actually

[unborn epoch]

unless you go full custom watercooling

[red ingot]

the only thing i hate with this carrying case

is it doesnt gimme the size

idfk if its gonna be big enough

[unborn epoch]

what carrying case

[sonic osprey]

the nzxt case is desigend to support 2 water cooling exhaust

[red ingot]

https://www.sfflab.com/collections/accessories-1/products/tactik-duffle

[sonic osprey]

"Dual 280mm liquid cooling support"

[red ingot]

that's the only case on the link u sent

the straps that they have are just attatchments for it

[unborn epoch]

that is made for the ncase specifcly

[red ingot]

not to strap onto the desktop

ooo i see

[unborn epoch]

look up the size for ncase and you know the size

internal room that is

[red ingot]

ncase is small

😦

rip

well mebbe i can find something if i google-fu hard enough

when the time comes

😄

[unborn epoch]

actually I lied, they changed it, they made it bigger and modular

that's hella cool

[gaunt dragon]

am I the only one that has soft spots for sleeper PC's? If you take a shit case and put bangin' hardware in it, I will instantly pay at least 2x what it's worth lol.

[red ingot]

what

[unborn epoch]

look at the pictures

[red ingot]

whats bigger and modular

[unborn epoch]

one of the pictures shows case and monitor

[gaunt dragon]

customizable = modular

bigger = bigger

[red ingot]

i need link

i cant find this

[unborn epoch]

the wallye bag first design was made to fit the ncase case perfectly

[red ingot]

link dr. nick

[unborn epoch]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1581/0749/products/Tactik_Duffle_11_0bd95682-88d1-41b2-82bc-2ef024283caf_1280x1280.jpg

[red ingot]

ah

[unborn epoch]

the initial bag was as big as the case

[cosmic siren]

is there any way to stop BFV from resetting its volume in the volume mixer every time I launch it ?

[red ingot]

hm

well i guess i'll see

[unborn epoch]

you can even buy a pelican case big enough for the ncase m1, that's pretty neat

https://cdn.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/userbuild/135692.40fcb69c4e213c959137e48a0eb25498.998e8dab6ada1ca21c3b67aed99632ba.1600.jpg check that

maybe a pelican case in the right size is suited for your clumsy ass

[red ingot]

maybe

[unborn epoch]

srsly, how do I remove static noise from balanced audio when playing games

[unborn epoch]

HELP

[quasi sparrow]

NCASE best case

I wanna move to a dancase A4 eventually

bc of decreasing OC relevance

[unborn epoch]

but high end chips will perform even worse 😦

we'd need to wait a few generations for chips to become cooler again

[prime jasper]

What is the problem when i get like 100% cpu usage and like max 5% on gpu!?

i tried to google and fix with settings now but nothing works?

[steep gust]

@unborn epoch Get rid of the interference?

Also chips won't get cooler

[unborn epoch]

ya

i have interference

only under heavy gpu load

it's annoying

[steep gust]

Use your rear audio jacks from the motherboard

Not front I/O

[unborn epoch]

i have a dedicated (external) audio interface

😦

[steep gust]

oof

[unborn epoch]

already tried different balanced cables and different audio interface

already tried an entirely difference powergroup in my house

haven't tried ground loop isolators yet

just annoying, you buy higher quality stuff but bring more problems with you

[rose eagle]

truth

[unborn epoch]

i could try a different PSU for shits n giggles

but i already have probably the best psu money can buy at the moment

maybe not money can buy, but us mortal consumers

[rose eagle]

some crazy ass deals on PSUs

i got a decent deal on my 850 G3

[dreamy tinsel]

There are crazy ass deals but you only got a decent one

🤔

[rose eagle]

was a month ago 😛

[dreamy tinsel]

😄

[rose eagle]

i did the smart thing and paid normal prices for like $5000 worth of electronics this year

[dreamy tinsel]

😂

[rose eagle]

to be fair my Denon receiver is MSRP $1000 and got for $600

speakers were half off got for $1000

black friday = meh

[unborn epoch]

i want to replace my home theater audio setup

got mediocre jamo stuff now

sort of want to go for klipsch, from what i remember when i listened to setups

[rose eagle]

JBL 590 series 😄

new Klipsch is shat 😦

[unborn epoch]

even their premiere stuff?

[rose eagle]

i replaced some Klipsch series from 2000

yea, too many players now

[unborn epoch]

damn

my dreams are ruined

[rose eagle]

i mean, you'll be happy

unless you know there's better stuff out there and that bothers you 😄

[unborn epoch]

well there's always better stuff

[rose eagle]

for cheaper

[prime jasper]

Black Friday is a joke, lol

[unborn epoch]

oh ya

[prime jasper]

Almost every retailer bumps prices up, so when Black Friday roles around, they can offer "discounts"

[unborn epoch]

klipsch look so dope 😦

[rose eagle]

thats what camelcamelcamel is for

yea im not too fond of how my JBL 590 series looks but they fill the room with insane sound

they work really well for any seating zone, no need for a center

[unborn epoch]

you have a dedicated media room or do you use livingroom

[rose eagle]

shiet im poor, just living room

it's only 16x16

[unborn epoch]

well. us housing is dirt cheap

[rose eagle]

im still poor for here

[unborn epoch]

everything is made out of sticks and sand

[rose eagle]

single income ftl

[unborn epoch]

yeah im sure

[rose eagle]

its why i still get mine and blow money lol

she doesnt say anything ever

knows shes lucky to be able to stay home

we'll see what happens when kiddo is older

[unborn epoch]

gl man

even if I had a girl that wanted kids, I'd probably say no

[rose eagle]

i swear im going to throw these 2 yorkies over the fence

its making our lives miserable, the kid wont stop harassing them

[unborn epoch]

small dogs are aids

big dogs are expensive

[rose eagle]

replace 2 with 1?

but yea

[unborn epoch]

that might be an idea

[rose eagle]

its sad but they are literally ruining our relationship and causing the kid to act out

he just has this energy to want to constantly harass them.. i lock them up away and he just chills and life is happy

so some days....

[unborn epoch]

wait, kids or dogs are the problem?

[rose eagle]

makes finger gun

kid + dogs, remove dogs = kid fine

or big dog he would not harass

he just picks on them cause they're small and weak

like they'll be going to jump down from the couch and he gives them an extra... foot nudge lol

dont hesitate, you gonna get booted

no amount of ass whoopin, calm talking, timeouts, taking away ipad etc alters his behavior.. he just locks on and no one else exists

[unborn epoch]

get a great dane lel

i had a great dane a long time ago

[red ingot]

damn

i mean maybe when he gets older

he won't act out as much

[unborn epoch]

that's what vaccinations do to a child these days

[red ingot]

or u know, maybe u can teach him to respect life

be like, what if someone did that to u

would u like it/

and it's like an ohhhhhh moment

if all else fails, he can live in the doghouse outside

[unborn epoch]

lel

[red ingot]

😄

hey i used to be a little shit as a kid

guess what my parents did

[rose eagle]

dont worry there's literally zero actions he respects

he's just a jackass

[unborn epoch]

idk, humans are often in the wrong if dogs are brought up well

[red ingot]

for a whole year, got home from school, my parents would lock me in a room for 4h

I cried myself to sleep

[rose eagle]

that sounds healthy

[red ingot]

1 year later, magical child

[rose eagle]

😄

[red ingot]

not saying it was right

but it worked

[rose eagle]

zero impact right? you dont remember any of this

[red ingot]

i do

:/

[rose eagle]

are you closterphobic now?

[red ingot]

parents regret doing it

[unborn epoch]

i was a good kid

[red ingot]

no

it was a bedroom

[rose eagle]

or have abandonment issues?

do you seek attention?

[red ingot]

it was a big room

i do seek attention

[rose eagle]

😄

[red ingot]

therapist panda

[unborn epoch]

do you buy an unhealthy amount of dildos?

[red ingot]

yes

[rose eagle]

loll

[red ingot]

how did u know

[rose eagle]

are they bright colors?

[quasi sparrow]

seak attention

[red ingot]

rainbow

[rose eagle]

to avoid the lonely darkness

mhm, mhm

[red ingot]

lol

[quasi sparrow]

more people need to be woke to the westie meme

[red ingot]

it wasn't a dark room

[rose eagle]

this is adding up

[unborn epoch]

they fill the void, am I right?

[red ingot]

just an empty bedroom

with lights

and a timer

tick tock tick tock

:/

[rose eagle]

wow

like jail

[red ingot]

yessir

maybe wasn't a whole year idk

[rose eagle]

A+

[red ingot]

felt like a year

defs a long time

[unborn epoch]

the problem is, autism is just difficult to deal with

[red ingot]

u calling me autistic sir

[unborn epoch]

[red ingot]

[unborn epoch]

its either autism or smallpox

[red ingot]

[unborn epoch]

difficult pick

[red ingot]

true

well idk panda

there's always a harsher method

to resort to

is my point

tbf i was a really horrible child

i used to bite kids

I got kicked outta preschool

almost got kicked outta kindergarten

[unborn epoch]

lol

you wouldn't want to be biting me

[red ingot]

u sure bout dat

[rose eagle]

he's 100% perfect and quiet in public

[unborn epoch]

there was a kid in my highschool class who did the same thing, biting.

[rose eagle]

he only disrespects us

[red ingot]

i give u little nibble

yeah so if he disrespects

[rose eagle]

if it was a problem elsewhere believe me... we'd be doing something

[red ingot]

timeout room

he'll learn quick

[rose eagle]

he gets normal appropriate timeouts 😄

[red ingot]

moar

[unborn epoch]

I smacked him with my algebra textbook, he ended up in the hospital with a concussion

[red ingot]

damn

wait

what

highschool!?

[unborn epoch]

ya

[red ingot]

shit dude i was in kindergarten so more acceptable

[unborn epoch]

grade 11 is highschool right

[red ingot]

HIGHSCHOOL?

yeah

damn

[unborn epoch]

ya highschool

[red ingot]

he fucked up

i was like 4

that kids gotta be like 16

rip

[unborn epoch]

about that age yeah 15 something

[red ingot]

anyways im gonna go eat

[unborn epoch]

he was japanese

[red ingot]

lel

[unborn epoch]

maybe that explains something

[red ingot]

maybe

[unborn epoch]

pls dont eat random people in the street

[rose eagle]

this should not take til the freakin 1st to get here

[red ingot]

:/

i want my benchmarks nao

[rose eagle]

it is traveling today

so it should arrive in a city 3 hours from here by tomorrow morning

[red ingot]

😄

so not dec 1

[rose eagle]

best not

my cpu is here

ram should arrive tomorrow

[unborn epoch]

i can't imagine a world where i wont have my shit the day after (besides sundays)

[rose eagle]

when you really shouldnt be buying stuff and rely on big sales the instant gratification dies

[unborn epoch]

even though I do want stuff fast the moment I buy it, I don't buy stuff regularly

[rose eagle]

all sales did was make me buy the best shit 😄

[unborn epoch]

at least, don't 'upgrade' stuff regularly

[rose eagle]

opposed to lower end...

[unborn epoch]

ya that definitely helps

[rose eagle]

something went wrong with my logic

i was supposed to only spend like $400

whoops.......

[unborn epoch]

😄

[rose eagle]

might have to slut myself out

[unborn epoch]

oh yeah baby

record that stuff, put it on whatever premium video website

patreon or something

i'll donate $1

[rose eagle]

itll look like a bear mauling someone

[unborn epoch]

im sure i can get into that

anyone got experience with HUE and 3rd party led strip controllers?

[rose eagle]

crickets

[unborn epoch]

yeah...

[gaunt dragon]

I have experience with hue, but not 3rd party anythin'.

[unborn epoch]

i switched to hue this month, it's dope

[gaunt dragon]

I agree

[unborn epoch]

i have a bunch of led strips already mounted in my room and have to replace the controllers with something that works with the hue bridge

[gaunt dragon]

Friend of mine has it after a recommendation I gave to him (his old lights were like 50+ years old, when the house was built), and he loves them

[unborn epoch]

lul

[gaunt dragon]

I have 2, might need a light strip or something

led strip, w/e

[unborn epoch]

i replaced my spots and i have a few Hue GO things on my table

waiting for Hue Play, they aren't available here yet :c

[gaunt dragon]

the blooms?

the uh...domes of light?

[unborn epoch]

yeah

[gaunt dragon]

those things are weird

but look nice on bedside tables

too bad I don't have one

[unborn epoch]

https://www.ceogear.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Philips-Hue-Go-LED-Lighting-Works-with-Amazon-Alexa-gear-photo.jpg

the cool thing about them is you can remove them from the cable and they'll work for 3 hours

they have batteries

[rose eagle]

@gaunt dragon get your crap working yet? 😄

[gaunt dragon]

._.

The solution right now, is to just set up new system when it gets here, on monday, and have it playable on Tuesday.

I'll be hopefully in game by tuesday night.

Shiny new i5, and mobo, and SSD.

[latent light]

what i5 did you get

[gaunt dragon]

Funnily enough, this PC that I'm about to use is gonna be the best PC i've ever used.

uh

lemme check.

i5-3470

[latent light]

what do you have now

[gaunt dragon]

Pentium G3240.

[latent light]

oof

[gaunt dragon]

Yup.

So I invested 100$ in what would have been a 350$ MSRP setup, cuz black friday.

money savin', yo.

[latent light]

you get used parts?

[gaunt dragon]

yeah

[latent light]

hmmm

[gaunt dragon]

but both come in box, so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steep gust]

HUE costs too much tbh

[latent light]

could of checked ebay for a nice 6-core Xeon CPU

[steep gust]

^

Although they aren't very good for gaming due to clocks being low

[gaunt dragon]

Xeon chips are not gonna be for me

I'm not a render-nerd

at least, not anymore

[latent light]

Xeon overclocking is probably the best in business

[steep gust]

You realize Xeon chips are just the Core ones with ECC memory?

[gaunt dragon]

It's also not meant for gaming ._.

[steep gust]

Its a CPU

They can't be "for gaming"

[gaunt dragon]

Obviously

[latent light]

it does have pretty high power consumption

[steep gust]

You can build a GPU for gaming style workloads

Which is why Quadros / Teslas / etc suck ass for gaming

[gaunt dragon]

But what I'm saying is you don't get as good efficiency out of a Xeon chip running games, then a constant full-workload render farm would.

i5 and a low-end graphics card is the best PC i've ever used, ama.

jk tho, i would have killed for something even close to this back a few years ago.

[steep gust]

Also a decent-ish 6 core Xeon from eBay is like $60+

Then the motherboards aren't very good for everyday use

[gaunt dragon]

I saw a bay of 150 Xeon chips with each going for 30$, a minimum of 2 was required to purchase iirc.

[steep gust]

Only advantage is that ECC DDR3 is fucking cheap

[gaunt dragon]

aaaah, shit.

I totally forgot a VGA to HDMI adapter, cuz the board I'm getting doesn't have a VGA port, but my monitors are oooold.

Damn you, technology.

[rose eagle]

$100

why is your board changing how you do anything?

arent you keeping the same GPU?

[gaunt dragon]

yeah, but if I told you how my dual monitor setup is currently working, you'd have my by the throat

[latent light]

crazy to think that 6 cores were used for servers not too long ago

[gaunt dragon]

(which is what I'm buying cables for. :P)

[latent light]

now servers use 32 and 64 cores

[gaunt dragon]

My monitors are running 1 from my GPU, and 1 from the integrated GPU chip on my board, I'll be getting 2 different cords to run both my monitors off my 750 when I upgrade this monday, though.

So this era of jankiness has come to an end.

[rose eagle]

i mean thats not unheard of because there is some weird issues with 144hz + 60hz together but thats not why you're doing it.. so 😄

ive been tempted to give that a shot again, 60 + 144 can cause stuttering and weird bs

[gaunt dragon]

nope, I'm doing it cuz I'm too poor to afford a VGA+HDMI cable

But I had 2 VGA's, so I made it work :P

[unborn epoch]

they should be dirt cheap

like, you hand literal dirt to the store owner

[rose eagle]

you have no hdmi or dvi?

[unborn epoch]

and he will give you the hdmi cables

[rose eagle]

you're only using VGA?? x_x

[latent light]

found a Xeon E5-1620 v2 for only $45 on ebay lmao

[gaunt dragon]

my graphics card has vga, dvi and HDMI, but my monitors only support VGA and DVI

[rose eagle]

and you're not using DVI?

[gaunt dragon]

sweating no...?

[unborn epoch]

ya if possible use hdmi -> dvi or dvi -> dvi

[latent light]

DVI is good

[gaunt dragon]

I know it's infinitely better, but.

[rose eagle]

this dude usin a VGA cable!! take pictures! 😄

[gaunt dragon]

I am, yes.

[unborn epoch]

you should definifely look online for cheap dvi cables

i assume your gpu has 1 dvi and some other things

[rose eagle]

or dig through trash at best buy

[gaunt dragon]

HDMI, VGA and DVI, nick.

So I'mma do HDMI to VGA converter, and a DVI.

[unborn epoch]

is that a thing vga to hdmi

you'll have to convert analogue to digital, that sounds expensive

both your monitors have dvi? or only one has vga

or one has only vga*

[gaunt dragon]

vga to hdmi is, hdmi to vga is not.

15$ for vga to hdmi, hdmi to vga is 8$.

Both have DVI, btw.

[latent light]

do you have an option to only use DVI?

[gaunt dragon]

uh

[unborn epoch]

no monitors are not hdmi

[gaunt dragon]

No, because my graphics card has HDMI, VGA and DVI, 1 a piece.

[unborn epoch]

ya, hdmi -> hdmi should be cheap

[gaunt dragon]

And my monitors have HDMI, and DVI.

and also composite, because my main monitor is a TV.

[unborn epoch]

then get 1 hdmi cable and 1 dvi cable :S

[gaunt dragon]

not hdmi, acryonymmmms!

:(

My monitors have VGA and DVI

and composite.

[unborn epoch]

ok get a dvi and hdmi->dvi cable

they should be dirt cheap

[gaunt dragon]

huh

I could convert hdmi>dvi instead of hdmi>vga

[unborn epoch]

deeeefinitely

[rose eagle]

https://www.amazon.com/Generic-GC2080-Adapter-Plated-Connector/dp/B000FUVNX8

[unborn epoch]

dvi and hdmi are both digital

vga is analogue

[gaunt dragon]

googling it is not the issue, panda lol

[rose eagle]

tree eighty five

prime

😄

[gaunt dragon]

I have prime, so i'll get right on it :P

[rose eagle]

well im not sure thats the right one

[unborn epoch]

ya, stay away from vga if possible

[rose eagle]

i just randomly googled

[unborn epoch]

that shit was cool in 1999

[gaunt dragon]

looks fine to me.

[rose eagle]

that wont work you still need dvi cable

err

thats a male hdmi

[unborn epoch]

get a dvi-hdmi cable

[gaunt dragon]

I obviously still need the cable

I need 2 dvi cables, and an hdmi>dvi

[unborn epoch]

dont bother with converters if you can get a straight hdmi to dvi cable

imo, converter blocks are ass

[gaunt dragon]

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Input-Output-Adapter-Cable/dp/B014I8UQJY

[rose eagle]

but dem cost $6!

[gaunt dragon]

6.99$ for the straight cable

[unborn epoch]

ya that's the one

[gaunt dragon]

I'm willing to pay the extra 3$ for not having to deal with an adapter.

[unborn epoch]

you end up paying the same anyway

[rose eagle]

make sure you got the right dvi input

[unborn epoch]

this one is correct

[gaunt dragon]

Male HDMI, Female DVI?

[unborn epoch]

no, there are multiple dvi standards

[gaunt dragon]

oh.

[steep gust]

DVI-D

[unborn epoch]

dvi-d dvi-i dvi-d dl dvi-i dl etc

[steep gust]

or DVI-whatever?

[rose eagle]

your monitor is rock old so im scared

[unborn epoch]

actually yes

[gaunt dragon]

I mean, my main one isn't "rock old"

[rose eagle]

what is your monitor?

[unborn epoch]

what if it's dvi-i 😄

[rose eagle]

which monitor is getting the dvi and what is its model? 😛

[unborn epoch]

if possible link us brand+model

[rose eagle]

you're using VGA to both monitors right now?

[unborn epoch]

well go on archive.org and look for specs

[rose eagle]

digs through stone etched blocks

[gaunt dragon]

Yes, I am.

[rose eagle]

maybe it's on microfiche

[gaunt dragon]

Here's my main monitor. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fNEAAOSwwVBbdzgp/s-l640.jpg

[rose eagle]

cant read that 😛

[unborn epoch]

fuc i can't decipher the model number

[gaunt dragon]

That's called a VG1930.

I think?

[rose eagle]

i even put forth the effort to lean forward

[unborn epoch]

yeah

[gaunt dragon]

yeah.

[unborn epoch]

1 x audio line-in - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x DVI-D - 24+1 pin digital DVI
1 x VGA - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15)

so the cable you linked is correct

[gaunt dragon]

nice.

[rose eagle]

so you own 1 dvi?

[gaunt dragon]

I will own 1 dvi.

[rose eagle]

you have 2 VGA?

[gaunt dragon]

Currently both are on vga, yes.

[unborn epoch]

what resolution is the other monitor

[gaunt dragon]

My 2nd, smaller one?

[unborn epoch]

besides the viewsonic one

[rose eagle]

id want the main monitor real dvi x_x

you're buying an hdmi to dvi instead, why again?

[gaunt dragon]

1440x900.

[unborn epoch]

viewsonic is your mai nscreen right?

[gaunt dragon]

Because my graphics card has 1x HDMI, 1x VGA, and 1x DVI.

[rose eagle]

right..

not you

[gaunt dragon]

And my Monitors only have 1x VGA and 1x DVI a piece.

[rose eagle]

re staying with 1 vga?

[unborn epoch]

wait im an idiot

[gaunt dragon]

No, I'll be getting 1 DVI cable and one HDMI > DVI cable.

[unborn epoch]

reset pls, you have a viewsonic monitor which is 1440x900, what other monitor do you have

[gaunt dragon]

So that's 1 DVI port on my graphics card, and 1 HDMI port on my graphics card, to both DVI slots on my monitors.

[rose eagle]

ok

[unborn epoch]

yes that's what you should do indeed

[gaunt dragon]

Viewsonic monitor is higher, at 1680x1050. Second monitor is 1440x900.

[unborn epoch]

especially if both screens are LCD panels

alright

definitely get your screens over hdmi/dvi

[latent light]

1680x1050 is such a weird resolution

[gaunt dragon]

Probably a good choice, maybe I'll stop randomly having to re-seat my cables due to them wobbling free on their own. :P

And, I agree.

[unborn epoch]

nah 1680x1050 was pretty big when 24" screens were new

or 22' i forgot

1680x1050 is as weird as 2560x1440

[gaunt dragon]

But that's "Half-4k" isn't it?

[steep gust]

uh no

2560x1440 is fine

1440p is actually the sweet spot for gaming right now

[unborn epoch]

yes

[steep gust]

4k is still a few generations away

1080p is ez to drive

[latent light]

1680x1050 is 16:10
1920x1080 is 16:9
2560x1440 is 16:9

[unborn epoch]

so was 1050p back when widescreen became a thing

which is 12 years ago or something?

[gaunt dragon]

Yeah, and that was in widespread use, until people wanted more pixels lmao

[latent light]

1680x1050 is slightly less widescreen than 1080p

I think a resolution weirder than that is 1920x1200 lol

[unborn epoch]

ya, it's 1920x1200's smaller brother

[latent light]

[unborn epoch]

but back then, 16;9 was weird for monitors

[latent light]

I used to have 1600x900

[unborn epoch]

1you guys are forgetting 1080p wasn';t even a thing back then

ffs

FFS

[latent light]

I got my first 1080p monitor in 2010 I think

[unborn epoch]

1080p monitor or nvidia gtx 1080

if you can get the 1080 for a nice price the 1080 is definitely worth it

[steep gust]

1080p monitors are cheap

[unborn epoch]

i have no idea how the 2nd hand market is atm

[gaunt dragon]

I mean, I just told a story about me getting a 350$ setup for 100$ even for black friday literally yesterday.

[rose eagle]

there were some solid deals of like $370 for 1070Tis

[gaunt dragon]

It's pretty neat.

[steep gust]

On old parts

So MRSP isn't super accurate

[rose eagle]

1080s will be going out of stock at some point

[gaunt dragon]

I wasn't comparing to MSRP?

[steep gust]

They already are out of stock

[gaunt dragon]

Why in christs name would I compare 9+ year old hardware to MSRP

[latent light]

1440p 60hz monitors are super rare

[gaunt dragon]

Am I a collector?

[rose eagle]

i own a 1440p 60hz 😄

early adopter!

[steep gust]

So how did you get $350 is the value of the setup?

If you paid $100, its worth $100

[gaunt dragon]

The other people that paid on the same item paid 100$ or something stupid

[steep gust]

and people paid $1200 for 1080TIs

[latent light]

think 1440p at 60hz will work fine on a RX 580 or a gtx 1060 6gb?

[gaunt dragon]

and the board is really overpriced everywhere I can find.

[rose eagle]

no