technology

[rose eagle]

they're all worse than your 4770k

is all you need to know

even the threadripper 1950x that was on sale for $410

[red ingot]

rip

welp

i tried

[rose eagle]

ok.. now my BF wont launch just like that other guy who had black window and then it just closes

[red ingot]

damn

wtf

god fuck bf

[rose eagle]

i set my bios to defaults

and thats all i did

[red ingot]

screwing up our builds

[rose eagle]

to bench non OC

[red ingot]

every other game runs fine for me 😦

[bleak minnow]

There are many good comparisons online so get to know the processors a bit which helps in the decision

[red ingot]

i just wish dice would confirm whether or not we gettin a cpu optimization patch

otherwise idk maybe i should go amd if there's something better - intel isn't on sale at all rn, but amd seems to be on sale

[rose eagle]

all i did was reboot my pc, load UEFI defaults.. and then click no to a survey that prompted in origin

and they blacklisted me probably

[red ingot]

uh oh

[rose eagle]

no V for you, you didnt recommend us

[red ingot]

yeah why did u click no

literally

gosh panda

[rose eagle]

ok.. a reboot fixed it

that was odd

i was gonna be pissed

as would my buddy who bought a 2080 and s2716dg and V lol

uh, BF eats the fk outta CPU

https://snag.gy/nlN0MW.jpg

i just stood in a war story doing the exact same thing...

surely the variance of the test couldnt be this far off to invalidate the CPU test OC vs non

20fps??

gonna have to run it 2x non vs oc

thatll suck if the 9700k doesnt OC at all and its perf is same as 3770k OCd 😄

[quaint topaz]

Went for the Spectrum @atomic atlas

Was a pretty good deal in Amazon uk

[unborn epoch]

Niiice

I haven't found any electronics I absolutely want

Discounted anyway

[rose eagle]

ok this is really weird BF wont launch if FRAPS is running prior to it running

someone remember this for tech support and black screen and then close problems

and mentally link it to anything else that would have built in OSD in it

[winged tapir]

https://i.imgur.com/YQlGOSU.png

Waiting for this 😄

[rose eagle]

@red ingot ok ive done some extensive testing in an isolated single player env... 3.6ghz 92fps avg, 60fps 1% low

i ran this test multiple times and got an avg, OC to 4.3ghz the same scene is 112fps avg, 72fps 1% low 😮

20 fps from a freakin CPU OC

[unborn epoch]

do u have 9700 yet

[rose eagle]

28th ish

i didnt pay for any shipping

gives me times to run some benchmarks and figure out what cooling i want

[unborn epoch]

LD PC V2

schould cool that chip pretty well

[rose eagle]

lmao

noctua or < $150 aio or bust

[unborn epoch]

ya

just find a g00d blak frideigh deal bruh

[rose eagle]

dang dun aint seein one

[unborn epoch]

shieet

[rose eagle]

all the plebs that started after 20th are complaining about TTK?

if they raise it im out

its already low

unless you hit in the head the TTK is like 5 minutes

in head. .1 net update 😄

[red ingot]

I'd cry

[rose eagle]

they can roll out a new Carebear mode for people to queue

leave base game alone

[red ingot]

really tho

dont touch my ttk

[rose eagle]

the ammo is so low wtf they think they going to accomplish?

oh, now it takes 1 clip to down someone.. fun!

wait i have no ammo

[red ingot]

and i mean i found out my g-sync wasn't working proper

[rose eagle]

i have to retreat after 5 seconds

[red ingot]

so i got it working, and now it's not bad

[rose eagle]

wut O_o

[red ingot]

my new monitor has g-sync

and even tho it was enabled, it still seemed stuttery

[rose eagle]

o

[red ingot]

so after some google-fu i tried changing the game to windowed and then back to fullscreen, and that fixed it

so now at least when i get fps dips its a lot smoother now

although still curious to see those benchmarks

[unborn epoch]

that shit happens to me in path ofe xile

very annoying, i have to alt-enter

[rose eagle]

hmm, yea i play everything borderless and set gsync to work windowed

cant say ive had any major issues

[red ingot]

U savage

[rose eagle]

i hope BFV devs literally listen to absolutely no one and just continue with game dev

[red ingot]

Sacrificing frames to play borderless

Same here :(

Ttk is fine

[rose eagle]

TTD might suck on consoles

but thats their problem

30hz gotta suck

[red ingot]

Yep

[unborn epoch]

there is an issue with ttd/netcode on pcs

if you think otherwise you are a butt

[trim ibex]

i think a lot of it is because you are getting shot at by more than 1 guy

[red ingot]

Ttd maybe but not ttk

[trim ibex]

the inability for the game to tell you that is the real problem

I think ttd netcode is a myth

unless you are at high ping

[red ingot]

Me too

I've been fine so far

I think people just mad because bad

[rose eagle]

there are instances where you instantly drop so yea i mean it might be possible you get all the info in 1 net update

even from 2, will never count that possibility out

if theres too much info to put into 1200 bytes then you're sol

[trim ibex]

again, instant drop might be related to getting shot by more than 1 guy

[red ingot]

^

Usually the case imo

[rose eagle]

64 people fighting all in the same close proximity is impossible to send to everyone

[trim ibex]

Im going to wait for battlefield nonsense's analysis

[lunar vortex]

Any recommendations for headphones that are on the cheaper end? On console btw

[mental hatch]

hyperx cloud stingers are nice $50

[trim ibex]

Kingston HyperX Cloud Core?

oh, hey just saw the comment on top

[rose eagle]

even with a compressed and optimized scope of data down to like 12 bytes per player for pos/rotation data per net update.. they're sending kill data, what weap, destruction... is TTD 100% just as bad on 32 player maps?

[trim ibex]

i have no idea on actual netcode, and I dont want to speculate, I'll just wait for actual data

[mental hatch]

who cares about netcode when you can just abuse the m1a1

[trim ibex]

apparently every gun thats not smg is op.../s

[rose eagle]

im 20 support and 2 weaps to 10.. moving to medic next i guess

i like the STEN a lot

you just have to not hold down the fkin mouse button to kill someone

[mental hatch]

well assault guns are busted

[rose eagle]

tap tap tap in the face, move on

hipfire blows

you have to headshot

[mental hatch]

yup sten is awesome

[unborn epoch]

tell that to the suomi

[mental hatch]

based off of stats alone too sten is just better

the more you go down the medic list control just drops and fire rate ramps up

[trim ibex]

the stats doesnt include fire rate

sten is one of the slowest of the bunch

[rose eagle]

550 rpm is where it's at

and ADS speed

[mental hatch]

wait what fire rate is listed

[trim ibex]

its under the stats

rpm

[mental hatch]

yea..

and im saying it has a good balance of control compared to things like mp28 which is 670 rpm and control just tanks

[trim ibex]

higher rpm means it kills a lot faster

[rose eagle]

with less control

[mental hatch]

yea at close range the mp28 is nice but for other things sten outclasses it

[trim ibex]

thus different guns are better for different things

cqb suomi and tommy

[rose eagle]

what would you consider CQ

[trim ibex]

suomi have highest ttk of all weapons within 10m

highest as in shortest

[rose eagle]

i find 90% of engagements outside of 25m

[mental hatch]

yea only thing close is snow mountain map but half the time there will just be an mg34/42 waiting for you already

[rose eagle]

esp on rotterdamn jesus... everyone is just taking pop shots from 100m

you guys stay over there and we'll remain over here, ok? OK!

[trim ibex]

a lot of it comes from knowing the map

as a medic, you want to limit long range exposure

[rose eagle]

watches as 10 people stack up behind pilons

[wet notch]

i reckon alot of the mmg camping is simply because those players are punished for moving

[trim ibex]

mmg is meant to camp

[rose eagle]

hurry more people get pinned behind this pilon, come join me!!!

[wet notch]

yea

[trim ibex]

you cant play mmg without camping

[rose eagle]

or even ke7 without some slower play

it has no ADS perk

[wet notch]

mmg's are very limited atm tbh

[rose eagle]

and cant hipfire for shit

[wet notch]

more limited than they need to be

[mental hatch]

is 10 for guns max lvl?

[wet notch]

because of the bipod glitches

yeah

[trim ibex]

yes on 10

[mental hatch]

ok

[rose eagle]

ive been using the Bren a lot lately on support

33% ADS = win

[trim ibex]

FG42 or drilling for me

I stay away from ke7

[rose eagle]

i went like 1-18 ke7 on support lol

not a big fan of the medic comabt roles

[mental hatch]

i love getting an mg34 on snow mountain and rushing c and laying down you can just mow down everyone

although havent used bren yet so maybe its better 🤷

[trim ibex]

yo, melee expert is so much fun

[wet notch]

medic is a very good class atm i feel

despite the weapons being slightly on the bad side

i mean when we're looking at actually PTFOing

[trim ibex]

I use the cricket bat and type hello o friend when I get someone

smoke nades are super good in this game

since they deploy so fast

[mental hatch]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[trim ibex]

I use it like smoke bombs to run away

[mental hatch]

you throw one smoke on a dead person and people turn off their monitors

[rose eagle]

BFV: Anyone complaining just sucks at the game

[atomic bramble]

↑

[rose eagle]

i havent looked at reddit since release but it looks useless lol

like a new thread every min

[atomic bramble]

bf5 gud game. my 8gb ddr4 2400mhz single channel ram not gud enough for bf5

[trim ibex]

some guy was telling me single channel was really hurting his performance

[mental hatch]

love seeing all the 30+ year olds complaing that bf 1942 was the best game because theyre getting too old for games that are more then 2d

[trim ibex]

I dont kown if its true or not though

[wet notch]

i wonder if those 30+ year olds have faulty memories

i am 30+ myself and played bf1942 as well but that game had some serious flaws

[trim ibex]

^ this

people keep wanting to go back to 1942 and bf2

those games had so many issues in mp

[rose eagle]

i cant believe they fkd with people's traditional knowledge of FOV

people just slide to 90 and play with this mind numbing setting

[trim ibex]

Same with BC2, I mean it only had 32 players, and was only meant for rush, it was the most COD BF there ever was

[drowsy beacon]

Bf1942 was good, with the desert storm mod

[unborn epoch]

Peanut

fight me bro

1v1

[mental hatch]

?

[unborn epoch]

9:25 PM] Peanut: love seeing all the 30+ year olds complaing that bf 1942 was the best game because theyre getting too old for games that are more then 2d

[mental hatch]

im not saying when u turn 30 u cant play games just saying these people are mad that theyre not as good as they used to so a lot of the time they complain its the game when in reality its them

[wet notch]

we might wanna switch this to #battlefield-legacy-titles btw 😄

[rose eagle]

good news, i get no better fps in borderless vs fullscreen

[red ingot]

Honestly I had a bunch of Bf2 nostalgia and then I played again 2 months ago

And it was mediocre at best

[little maple]

y

o

[red ingot]

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug

[little maple]

so

i5 4690k gtx 970

i'll get like

[rose eagle]

that g3a3 in b2 tho

[little maple]

40 - 60 fps on low - med?

[rose eagle]

cpu

[little maple]

lets say i upgraded to 2070, which is probs the aim for me currently

[red ingot]

RIP ur cpu

[rose eagle]

youd still get horrible fps

cpu is RIP

[little maple]

shit

[red ingot]

U want a 4770k

[prime jasper]

no its not

[red ingot]

[prime jasper]

what the fuck

[rose eagle]

dont fuck with me

4c4t is RIP

[mental hatch]

check to see whats getting maxed out first before buying stuff

[prime jasper]

@little maple they are just trolling you lol

[red ingot]

Panda is baller

Ok whatever goat

[little maple]

im so confused

[rose eagle]

i am the end all fucking word for CPU perf for this game

dont listen to anyone else

[red ingot]

He even said hes getting shit fps

Even my 4770k is getting shit fps

[trim ibex]

if you upgrade anything, get a better GPU, your cpu is fine @little maple

[red ingot]

Which is better than his cpu

[prime jasper]

my 4770k isnt

[rose eagle]

@little maple i had a 970 in beta, 50-80fps low/med 1440p

[red ingot]

🤔

[rose eagle]

3770k

[prime jasper]

youre probably using trash win10 lmao

[little maple]

oh right, im on 1080 p

[red ingot]

My min fps is like 60ish

[rose eagle]

so you should be getting 90fps low imo on 1080p easy

with a 970

[prime jasper]

my i7 4770 is doing fine

[red ingot]

Which sux

[rose eagle]

"fine"

😉

[red ingot]

What's your min fps

Goat

[prime jasper]

65

[red ingot]

Yeah

[rose eagle]

yea that sounds right

[red ingot]

So

Not fine

[prime jasper]

actually it is fine

[rose eagle]

1440p?

[red ingot]

Unless you're on 60hz

60hz would be fine

[prime jasper]

70hz

[red ingot]

Ok

[prime jasper]

1080p 120% res scale

[red ingot]

Then you're fine

[trim ibex]

most people are on 60hz

[red ingot]

I'm on 144

[prime jasper]

i overclocked my monitor

[rose eagle]

that hurts my soul

[red ingot]

I'd rather not be dipping down to 60

[prime jasper]

and 70hz feels way better than 60 lol

[quasi sparrow]

4K honestly seems like an ok bet for BFV

[red ingot]

144 feels way better than 60

[rose eagle]

60fps dips on my 1440p on a 2070

btw

[quasi sparrow]

jjika had a little Twitter rant about it

[prime jasper]

i can run bf1 in 1440p

but bfv will run like trash

[rose eagle]

200% res scale? lol

[quasi sparrow]

what settings are you running at 1440p?

[prime jasper]

Who

[quasi sparrow]

you

[rose eagle]

175% i guess would be 1440p on a 1080p?

[prime jasper]

Ultra

with ReShade

[quasi sparrow]

smfh

[prime jasper]

133% @rose eagle

[quasi sparrow]

ultra textures + all low settings + 100% res scale

[little maple]

okay so

[prime jasper]

175% would be close to 4k lol

[little maple]

don't focus on upgrading cpu then? focus on gpu

[prime jasper]

200% is 4k

gpu

[rose eagle]

how is that? what does "res scale" mean? wouldnt it mean 1080p 100% scale is 2m pixels, 150% would be more like 3m?

[quasi sparrow]

unless your CPU is really old, then don't touch it

Intel 4XXX and later is fine

[little maple]

okay cool

[prime jasper]

res scale is Supersampling

[rose eagle]

no...

[red ingot]

I'm assuming you're on 60hz

[quasi sparrow]

well i5-4XXX could use an upgrade

[prime jasper]

and 133% is equal to 1440ü

p

on a 1080p display

[quasi sparrow]

i7-4XXX is fine

[red ingot]

If you're fine with 60fps then 4xxx is fine

[rose eagle]

i can put my 2070 on 130% while at 1440p

whats that mean then?

[red ingot]

My i7 4770k dips to 60fps

[prime jasper]

idk

[rose eagle]

i still get 120fps

[quasi sparrow]

BF seems to benefit a lot from extra threads

[rose eagle]

it moves none

[prime jasper]

im using a 1070

[quasi sparrow]

nah, don't touch res scale

honestly not worth

[red ingot]

Pandas gonna test the benefits of upgrading

[quasi sparrow]

100% is fine

[prime jasper]

it is worth it

wtf

no 100% is trash

lmao

[rose eagle]

i have a 3770k 1440p, my gpu is at 70%, if i put res scale to 130% it uses 100% gpu same FPS, 120ish

[prime jasper]

its the single best setting there is

not worth wtf

[quasi sparrow]

for visibility, 100% is fine

[rose eagle]

dont get a new gpu with a shit CPU

[prime jasper]

bruh

no

[rose eagle]

you will be bottlenecked to shit

[prime jasper]

1080p is trash

[red ingot]

It is

[quasi sparrow]

oh, i play on 3440x1440

so 100% is fine

[prime jasper]

ofc

lol

[red ingot]

I just got on 1440p today

[rose eagle]

its sweet sex

[red ingot]

It's so much better

[rose eagle]

27"?

[prime jasper]

200% with 4k lol

[red ingot]

I know I feel like I'm getting a blowie

Yeah 27"

[quasi sparrow]

1440 high refresh is the best monitor combo imo

[red ingot]

Yep

[rose eagle]

so much pixels,. clarity++ ;D

[prime jasper]

1080p high refresh

[red ingot]

1440 144hz

[prime jasper]

with DSR

[quasi sparrow]

1440 144Hz > 1080p 240Hz

[prime jasper]

no

[mental hatch]

1440p 144hz ips is god tier

[prime jasper]

i can play games in 4k on my 1080p monitor

[little maple]

how would 4k 144hz look

[prime jasper]

or 1440p

[quasi sparrow]

huge diminishing returns to increased res scaling in terms of visual quality

[prime jasper]

so i would rather have a 240hz 1080p monitor

[rose eagle]

it wouldnt.. nothing out can push 144fps 4k 😄

[prime jasper]

actually

no

[quasi sparrow]

rather just step up the actual resolution quality

[prime jasper]

no

4k looks the same as 1080p + 200% res scale

[rose eagle]

lol dis guy gonna argue res scale is same as true 1440p?

LOL

[quasi sparrow]

NVLinked 2080 Tis could easily do 144fps 4K

[rose eagle]

supersampling is nowhere the same as having the actual pixels to produce an image

[trim ibex]

wait, who is saying rescaling have diminishing returns?

[rose eagle]

lets all play on 720p then with 200% res scale? ;D

[quasi sparrow]

^^ what panda said

[trim ibex]

I mean it depends

[quasi sparrow]

there's no true replacement for actual physical pixels

[trim ibex]

theres a lot of benefits of running native

[quasi sparrow]

BF4 on all low tho 🤤🤤🤤

high frames and good visibility 😩

[rose eagle]

@quasi sparrow You're assuming nvlink would actually work 100% right in V? crazy ;P

[trim ibex]

but how else would you upscale while maintaining native

[rose eagle]

they would catch fire before they produced the image 😄

[red ingot]

Oh and g sync

[quasi sparrow]

2080 Ti NVLink actually gets really good SLI scaling

[rose eagle]

ultra eeerting except low lighting, effects, post, undergrowth, ambient occ off

profit

yw

[prime jasper]

why would you turn off HBAO

[quasi sparrow]

if i could turn textures and vegetation completely off i would

[rose eagle]

adds depth to everything, harder to see people

[quasi sparrow]

^

[prime jasper]

🙄

[rose eagle]

competitive edge, if someone else is doin it, you should be too ;D

[quasi sparrow]

relaaa settings >>>

[rose eagle]

how can you live with yourself knowing someone else could be seeing the battlefield clearer?!?!!?

[trim ibex]

by that logic, we should all play on low

but fuck that

[little maple]

hoooooooly fuck the origin premier thing sounds really generous... wtf

[quasi sparrow]

yes play on all low

[rose eagle]

no no no that doesnt fix everything

[prime jasper]

yea i dont want my game to look like shit

[trim ibex]

it is

[quasi sparrow]

it's great

[rose eagle]

you can still have ultra textures

you need all the mesh polys

[trim ibex]

origin premier is honestly great

[quasi sparrow]

ultra textures and everything else on low

[rose eagle]

and view distance of objects correctly

[trim ibex]

put mesh on ultra

thank me later

[prime jasper]

textures are not what makes a game look good tho

[quasi sparrow]

I wish BF had a tryhard graphics preset

one click

[rose eagle]

lol

[quasi sparrow]

BO4 on tryhard graphics is great

[rose eagle]

is "tryhard" new?

i only just heard someone in Rocket League start using it

[quasi sparrow]

nah, players have been doing it forever

[rose eagle]

is it a new fad that has grown bigger lately?

more mainstream

[quasi sparrow]

watch top BF3 and BF4 players

their game looks like shit but it's great

[rose eagle]

you like literally cant make BFV look bad on 1440p

[prime jasper]

yes you can

force a lod bias of 10

with the nvidia inspector

[rose eagle]

lol not with normal settings

i mean sure res scale 25% = lol

[quasi sparrow]

I hate the trend of developers across most games really favoring graphical styles that are almost designed for 4K

a lot of clutter that only looks acceptable on higher pixel counts

[rigid knoll]

@prime jasper textures are huge part of what makes games look good

[prime jasper]

minecraft with a 4k texture pack

go figure

Lighting, bump mapping for example are way more important

shadows

ofc if the textures are trash the game wont look good, but there are things that are more important

[half comet]

vegetation should be forced

for all

[rose eagle]

"off"

;D

[rigid knoll]

After models (in 3d games) textures are the 2nd most important thing. And lightning, and bumb mapping in part look how they look because of textures: bumb map is texture, so is specular map which defines what kind of reflection object’s surface has

[rose eagle]

theres already enough freaking vegetation

there should be an eye study on what this does to recognition of targets

[rigid knoll]

Then again, sometimes even very low poly objects are made to look great with normal mapping (also a texture), and displacement maps

[quasi sparrow]

nothing wrong with how BF3 did things

maps can look good without clutter

which BF1 and BFV suffer from

[wet notch]

that i agree with

[quasi sparrow]

boil away the unnecessary shit and unnecessary interaction, and let the gameplay stand for itself

automate everything with one best strategy

and immersion follows

[rose eagle]

man wheres that guy that was doing a refund

[rigid knoll]

Maybe playing the game

[rose eagle]

haha nah he couldnt run it

just black load, then it closes

[gaunt dragon]

hey that's me

👀

[rigid knoll]

That sucks. Is it too late to get refund if you wait until next patch, coming on Dec 4th?

[gaunt dragon]

I'm pretty sure, with the ticket history I have setup, and the...choice words I threw around with the last rep (Told me the same thing as the prior rep, insisting it was some unknown hosts on my net :/) they'll give me a refund whenever, if I can't get this to work.

Now 11 hours into this escapade, end me ._.

The idea now is that it might be the overlay function in one of the programs I'm using. So, time to scour through everything to see if anything is hooking into bfv!

[unborn epoch]

hooking into bfv?

sounds like hax or a trojan

[rose eagle]

FRAPS causes my game to do the same thing his does

is why i alerted him to look into it

if i have FRAPS running with overlay on before launching, it just goes to black screen.. closes itself

really whacky find

[unborn epoch]

black screens matter

[gaunt dragon]

pls no

i have had this black screen for 11 hours

just end it

let me play the 60$ game i bought

pls ._.

[unborn epoch]

well you know what all real men say

format

[gaunt dragon]

._.

but

but

[unborn epoch]

format takes you 1 hour

[gaunt dragon]

my 900 gigs of files ._.

[rose eagle]

back to basics

[unborn epoch]

why do you have documents on your windows drive

[gaunt dragon]

why would I reset 900 gigs of files for a gammme why does this one have the only that has this issueeee

[unborn epoch]

also your animes don't matter

[rose eagle]

what could there possibly be 900gb of thats important? ;D

[gaunt dragon]

not anime's, more like photo's, and games.

Games are whatever, all the music, and photos I have, is more important lmfao

[unborn epoch]

so, 899gb of games, 1gb of photos

back up photos (which you should backup anyway)

[rose eagle]

he can has only 1 drive

[gaunt dragon]

"1 gb of photos"

that's funny

[unborn epoch]

hook me up with your snapchat

[rose eagle]

google photos = free infinite backup

[gaunt dragon]

in theory

[unborn epoch]

what if your hdd dies?

[gaunt dragon]

but mine is already maxed out from the last time I did this

so probs not

[unborn epoch]

it dies right now, what then?

[gaunt dragon]

I'm forced to use my backup that's like...3 months old at this point?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unborn epoch]

looks like it doesn't matter to you, format

[gaunt dragon]

The point is, why am I having to restore my entire system for a game, a triple a game, nonetheless

bleh.

[unborn epoch]

if some random program causes a black screen it's time for a format and rethink the software you use anyway

[gaunt dragon]

Just a lot of wasted time, and resources, from me.

[unborn epoch]

a studio can't go around and test all the twenty boobzillion programs out there

[gaunt dragon]

Obviously, but it can also have a reasonably sized QA team, too.

Anyway.

I'm going to probably stick to the homebrew fixes, until the "Expert" EA is giving me too, is done with whatever he's doing, before I request a refund.

so yeah, that probs concludes this escapade.

[unborn epoch]

format

panda pls tell him to format

[gaunt dragon]

I just blocked him, because telling people to "format" over and over, isn't helping anyone, let alone someone that's stated how he feels on it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unborn epoch]

your loss

[rigid knoll]

Formatting is for noobs. Killing a fly with a shotgun without aiming, or something like that.

[unborn epoch]

firing a shotgun would suggest you destroy more than you want to.

unless you don't know how to properly work a windows machine, that might be the case.

feel free to hunt that fly for 11 hours instead of blasting a single shotgun shell to kill the issue. 😄

[gaunt dragon]

I mean, that's a pretty fitting analogy, considering said shotgun blast is gonna take out everything else around bfv, as well

The idea is finding the fly in the 11 hours so you don't have to get out the shotgun, expend all possible outlets before going to the irreversible one.

[unborn epoch]

learn2computer please

I'M BloCKing You BeCAuSe xyZ

[rigid knoll]

Can you run & connect on bf1?

[gaunt dragon]

I haven't played BF1, actually.

The last BF I played was BF3, which yes, I can confirm that works fine on this setup, but it is also a pretty old game comparatively, so.

[rigid knoll]

Yea, surely a bit different underlying network there

[karmic trail]

Hey, the official system requirements tells me I need to have a 1060

I have a 1050Ti, will that do any good?

[rigid knoll]

I guess it would be easier for you to list what you have tried so far? Then again if problem points to another service running and interfering, you’ll probably have to start eliminating other running services and apps

[unborn epoch]

minimal requirements are gtx660/gtx1050

you should be fine

[gaunt dragon]

That's recommended you're looking at, I blieve, rh0m.

[sour ivy]

@karmic trail cpu?

[karmic trail]

I have an i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz and an GTX 1050Ti 4GB

[sour ivy]

Yeah you'll be fine

[karmic trail]

My laptop is the Lenovo Legion Y520

[sour ivy]

Don't expect any crazy settings

But medium should run at 60

[karmic trail]

So, like, super low?

[sour ivy]

No

[unborn epoch]

low means nothing

low still looks super good

[karmic trail]

I run BF1 just fine, with almost all low settings

[unborn epoch]

just try at low except for mesh/terrain settings

[sour ivy]

Actually if it's a laptop probably low 60fps

[karmic trail]

Should I use GeForce Experience to set my video settings?

[unborn epoch]

nah, put everything at low

[karmic trail]

I use it on BF1 and it works great

[sour ivy]

Nope, use low settings

[unborn epoch]

bfv is a bit more heavy, also make sure to turn on 'future frame rendering'

[karmic trail]

Ok thanks guys

[unborn epoch]

hf

[sour ivy]

No problem, hope you enjoy the game!

[gaunt dragon]

The things I've tried so far:
Uninstalling Origin and BF5 at least 3 times a piece.
Running BFV in Compatibility mode.
Running Origin in compatibility mode.
Running BFV and Origin in Admin mode.
Uninstalling and Reinstalling all of the C++ redistro's.
Checking everything for an overlay that might be making the game funky.
Clearing Origin's cache.
Contacting my ISP and having them reset my router, multiple times. (Thanks, EA.)
And that's a pretty good list of what I've tried, might have missed a few things, though. @rigid knoll

[sour ivy]

@gaunt dragon sorry, I'm late to this... what exactly is your problem

[severe kite]

!rank

[gaunt dragon]

Black screen on boot, only to hang, and crash. It has regular resource values of 100% CPU usage and 5% disk usage for a while, before reaching 950 MB of used memory, going down to 50% used CPU, 0% disk usage, and crashing.

[unborn epoch]

how much free space do you have on your drive

[gaunt dragon]

300 GB

[unborn epoch]

is that the same drive as your pagefile location

[rigid knoll]

Do you have the option to try and connect via mobile data for example? And did you try wired and wireless connection?

[gaunt dragon]

Something tells me it's not an internet issue, but rather a Software issue.

The only reason I can deduce this, is because I have tried it on several different connections, but the game hasn't even made it far enough in game to make a Settings folder.

I made this folder myself, to see if the game would at least take the options I gave it, but my BFV directory only has Screenshots, Temp and twinkle, no settings.

So, it's crashing before it can even start to render anything.

I'm gonna repost this, since I forgot to @ the person who asked me, originally.

Black screen on boot, only to hang, and crash. It has regular resource values of 100% CPU usage and 5% disk usage for a while, before reaching 950 MB of used memory, going down to 50% used CPU, 0% disk usage, and crashing. @sour ivy

The moment it reaches 950 mb of used ram on my PC, it looks like it's being throttled past that point. As it doesn't flinch above 50% usage, and 0% disk usage.

[half comet]

Hey dude, sorry to see it aint working. Have you tried using the Windows Event Viewer yet? Itll give you a much better view of exactly whats happened

[gaunt dragon]

No, I haven't lemme run it and see what it says.

[half comet]

k

[steep gust]

Have you changed any settings with how windows interacts with memory?

Ie pagefile, etc

[gaunt dragon]

I'm a prosumer, but that's just outside my range of expertise, so no, I haven't.

Windows memory is still fresh from factory, as I haven't touched it, other than putting in a new stick of ram about 9 months ago.

[steep gust]

Try flashing the BIOS

And update it

Since we are now at just guessing

[gaunt dragon]

Ok, so at least I see the crash, in windows event viewer.

It says quote "Faulting Application Name: BFV.exe Faulting Module Name: bfv.exe
EventID: 1000
Task Category: (100)

[steep gust]

New windows install

[gaunt dragon]

And the very first thing I read when I google EventID: 1000, is quote "The only thing known to cause this is third party Antivirus. Disable it and try again."

._.

I don't have an antivirus, and I don't have a firewall. bleh.

[rigid knoll]

Do you have Ryzen?

[gaunt dragon]

Nop. Intel.

[steep gust]

Try disabling windows defender

Don't leave it disabled but just try it

[rigid knoll]

Found a thread with event id 1000 and battlefield. But any number of reasons could cause app crash but there might be some common stuff

[steep gust]

If it works then make sure defender isn't blocking anything from BFV / Origin

[gaunt dragon]

Nope, still not functioning.

huh.

The BFV forums has a fix for BF1, caused by a then-recent windows upgrade.

About 5 months old at this point, but, worth a shot? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Huh. It seems that this is a super common problem in the BF1 community.

[rigid knoll]

Yeah that’s the one I spotted but, but it’s rather old update. Might be worth a try, if it’s even possible to uninstall it anymore

[gaunt dragon]

Yeah, I'm finding several people on bf1's forum that shares the same thing, except they seem to have all been in-game at some point.

Which, safe to say, I have not.

[rigid knoll]

What’s your hardware btw?

[gaunt dragon]

Pentium dual core @ 3.10GHz (It sucks, i know, I'm upgrading soon. :P)
8 GB of RAM
GTX 750Ti 2gb
1TB of HDD

[rose eagle]

i blame his rig at first too til i got that weird Fraps black screen.. pause.. close no error issue

be nice if there was a launch in debug mode

[gaunt dragon]

My rig has also been able to hold up with modern games like Monster Hunter World.

So, I doubt this would cause much issue, if not just being that I run it pretty stuttery, which if that was the only problem...bless.

[rigid knoll]

Yeah, launching with some kind of debug log would be great in this case

[unborn epoch]

you are way below minimum requirements

hell, even missing 2 cores

[gaunt dragon]

For some reason I feel like you haven't even looked at minimum.

[unborn epoch]

i have

[gaunt dragon]

I have above mimumum on everything besides CPU.

[unborn epoch]

i know that shit by heart

[gaunt dragon]

Which I'm slightly behind in.

[unborn epoch]

slightly, about half

[rigid knoll]

What’s the thread requirement for bfv?

[unborn epoch]

4

[rose eagle]

not only 4 but they try to mention as high as a 6600k lol

[half comet]

@gaunt dragon Honestly I didnt know your specs when we were working together yesterday. I completely blame them my man. Not shitting on your computer. But if it DID open, not playable

[unborn epoch]

BF1 has same minimum requirements

[gaunt dragon]

Funny, cause I think I've mentioned them...at least 3 times now?

[unborn epoch]

so it should run

[gaunt dragon]

Yeah, sounds about right.

[half comet]

I hadnt read them i guess

[gaunt dragon]

Not to mention how many times I've reguritated my issue.

[rose eagle]

the cpu will shit in V for sure compared to 1, but it shouldnt cost a complete crash

[unborn epoch]

but you never played bf1, actually

[gaunt dragon]

I've given up, was a good attempt.

[half comet]

BF1 runs better. Its got less under the hood + more optimiaztion time

[rose eagle]

but... in V it hands off to a mainmenu that uses 50% gpu and 80% cpu lol

[gaunt dragon]

I'm now gonna leave, and berate EA support until I get my money back

[rose eagle]

im still so pissed they render the engine real time for a main menu

i ninja afk so much

[gaunt dragon]

Peace out, my guys, hopefully we'll interact in another community.

[unborn epoch]

you should still format though

[gaunt dragon]

LOL

[half comet]

@unborn epoch sorry bro

[gaunt dragon]

you're awesome

just for that, you get an unblock

[rose eagle]

you should def reformat asap

😃

[gaunt dragon]

Now that I don't have this game to worry about, I probably won't.

Anyway, peace out, friendo's!

[rose eagle]

reformat 1x a year minimum

esp with new win 10 builds

[unborn epoch]

ya, those are no joke

[gaunt dragon]

windows 10 is bad tho ._.

[rose eagle]

oy

[half comet]

windows 8 is way worse

[gaunt dragon]

#unpopularopinionalert

8.1 is better than 10, change my mind

:P

[unborn epoch]

windows 10 is about the only thing being updated sooner or later

[half comet]

windows 8 was made for mobile

[gaunt dragon]

8.1 was made for pc?

[rose eagle]

w7 EoL is jan 2020, you got 1yr

[half comet]

You can see windows has gone the route of making things "Apps" and not applications. Windows 8 was made for touchscreens

[unborn epoch]

microsoft tried to push the tile/metro thing way too hard

[gaunt dragon]

I agree, but 8.1 fixed a lot of those issues.

[half comet]

Windows 7 is better than both

[unborn epoch]

windows 98SE is the best

[gaunt dragon]

That's comparing the best OS to ever grace the planet, to a modern, "meh" one.

[rose eagle]

98se ❤

best OS ever

i liked me some windows 2000 as well though

[half comet]

Windows 10 does suck sometimes, but 8? 8 is the New Vista

[gaunt dragon]

You can't say that fairly

[rose eagle]

the non gamer OS that worked better for gaming ;P

[unborn epoch]

too bad my computer crashed often during cd burning

wasted a good amount of cdrs back then

[rigid knoll]

I ran XP as late as 2013 👍

[rose eagle]

wtf.... 29.61% of steam gamers are still on Windows 7

[gaunt dragon]

Vista is fundamentally messed up, 8 knew what it was going for from the start, but marketed it to the wrong platform.

I would argue those are not the same

[rose eagle]

almost 30% of steam users have 1 year to fkin upgrade

gg

[unborn epoch]

$5 key and it';s solved

[half comet]

Agree to disagree

[rose eagle]

disagree to agree

[half comet]

lol

[rose eagle]

[gaunt dragon]

Opinions are like assholes, or something.

[unborn epoch]

8.1 was fine tbh

[half comet]

One dude actually doesnt have one

[gaunt dragon]

ouch.

[half comet]

yea

[rose eagle]

opinions are like vaginas then

not everyone has an opinion

[gaunt dragon]

that's an even more ambiguous market than an asshole

o no

[rose eagle]

and the very vocal ones, yuck

opinions "should" be like vaginas, not everyone should have one and those that do should just keep it to themselves

[rigid knoll]

So is the rig below min req or not? If it’s and EA support didn’t caught that?

[rose eagle]

2c is below min req

[gaunt dragon]

The CPU is beneath min, and EA didn't mention that once.

So, yes.

[rose eagle]

i cant believe 2gb vid is min tho

[rigid knoll]

Now you have perfect excuse to upgrade 👍

[rose eagle]

the game eats like 6gb

[gaunt dragon]

yup. Directly at min

[rose eagle]

i sell you my rig for $350

😄

[gaunt dragon]

is that a real offer lmao

cause if so

[rose eagle]

theres no vid card but you can get a 970 b stock evga 1 year warranty for like $120 i saw

[gaunt dragon]

I have a graphics card, and getting one isn't a big deal

if mine doesn't fit.

[mystic drum]

I just upgraded my CPU, MOBO, and RAM, and it started first try, AMA

[rose eagle]

i mean i will be selling my rig for like $350 most likely but to someone local.. shippin it? yikes cost $$$

[unborn epoch]

gtx660 is minimum, pretty sure 750ti is not powerful enough

[rigid knoll]

@mystic drum it’s bad luck not to forget to attach the cpu extra power

[unborn epoch]

i might be wrong

but 750ti is very bare minimum

[mystic drum]

Jokes on you, I didn't have a CPU extra power cable, I have to order one

[rigid knoll]

Noice

[gaunt dragon]

@unborn epoch In this case, you're incorrect. Minimum is GT 660 @ 2GB of vram.

[mystic drum]

Only thing bothering me is my RAM is reporting the wrong speed

[unborn epoch]

ya i forgot if the 750ti was faster or not

[gaunt dragon]

Slightly, but yes, iirc.

I'll probs hang around here a bit longer, cause people aren't shit here, but damn I wish bfv worked.

:(

[mental hatch]

@mystic drum how is it saying the wrong thing?

[mystic drum]

It's 3200 RAM, but it's reporting 2133 in the BIOS

[mental hatch]

you turn on xmp?

in bios

[mystic drum]

Actually yeah I did, I guess it just didn't update while I was in the BIOS, task manager says the right speed

[rose eagle]

why the hell isnt there an awesome deal on a cpu cooler

[mental hatch]

if youre really worried id get cpuz and then see if it says your ram at 1600mhz

[unborn epoch]

majic, just buy cheap undies save some money on that

buy regular prices cooler

or go commando

[rose eagle]

i already have 10yr old undies

and shoes

and pants

[unborn epoch]

rockin' that dad look

[mystic drum]

I'm looking at Hardware info and it says 1600

[unborn epoch]

1600 sounds correct

[mental hatch]

yup good then

[mystic drum]

How so?

[mental hatch]

The DDR in DDR4 stands for "double data rate

so 1600 x 2 is 3200

[mystic drum]

I see

[mental hatch]

@rose eagle what cpu u got?

[rose eagle]

right now? 3770k

[mystic drum]

I'm so annoyed I forgot about my audio card when getting a MOBO, no slot for it

[mental hatch]

evga 240mm for $80 and nh 14s for $50

unless after your 3770k youre gonna go to a 9900k soon itd be a bit of a waste

or just about anything from thermalright is nice for the money

[rose eagle]

9700k and the only acceptable solutions are d15 or better

i got comin

[unborn epoch]

i want to look like jason mamoa

i got the hair, not the body

what tech should i use to get there

(had to add that last one so snutten wouldn't come)

[rose eagle]

@mental hatch but yea that evga is really great cooling, just heard its super loud

the 280

i was hoping a floe Riing 360 would show up on major sale

i dont see a better aio

[mental hatch]

scythe ninja 5 is 60 on amazon and is only a bit worse then d15

[unborn epoch]

what about the coolamasta mastaliquid 360

has a shitton of rgb options

[rose eagle]

yea that one is high on the list too

[unborn epoch]

that's your jam

[rose eagle]

i cant find concrete evidence its better than the floe riing

[unborn epoch]

next build (years from now) is going to have full custom loops for me

dont thikn i'll go hardtubing but ya

[rose eagle]

yeh i dont trust myself for that and cant afford a mishap

but since i got rgb ram and gpu all pretty.. no sense blockin the shit with a giant ass noctua

reviews on water cooling is crap

all over the place

id prefer to stay Corsair since i have the software installed already

[unborn epoch]

going custom cooling is very expensive too

[rose eagle]

for ram + keyboard

[unborn epoch]

i'll have to start saving a bit

[rose eagle]

adding rgb software is bad news bears

[unborn epoch]

ekwb sells good stuff

dont they sell aio kits

actually probably self assembly kits only

what case can fit a freaking 420mm radiator

[rose eagle]

mine barely fits a 360 in the front

the PSU shroud has a hole i can remove

but a 360 wont fit up top even

[unborn epoch]

such overkill for a cpu 😄

[rose eagle]

not when you wanna push it a bit!

9700k gonna be hawt

[unborn epoch]

is 9000 series soldered yet

[mystic drum]

I'm kinda annoyed cause I had to get rid of my water cooler and my CPU has the same temps with this in box cooler

Maybe my WC was at the end of it's life

[rose eagle]

"yet" ?

or you mean 9xxx at all

[unborn epoch]

ya

[rose eagle]

yar, 9xxx uses soldered tim

[unborn epoch]

nice

delidding my 7700k made it drop 20c

should be a lot better now then

put liquid metal on that baby

[rose eagle]

prayin for a silicon lottery, prob gonna get somethin stuck at stock 😄

watch, itll run worse than my OC 3770k @ 4.3

i gain 20fps 3.6ghz -> 4.3

[unborn epoch]

nice nice

i had a crash yesterday, im back to stock turbo

cba to get it back to 5.0ghz

[gaunt dragon]

Well, now I'm attempting to upgrade my CPU and MoBo, but I have no idea if it'll work.

I don't deal much in hardware, I'm too poor to afford it, so I don't research it much lol.

[rose eagle]

you gonna have to gut everything including ram

[gaunt dragon]

The only thing I know will work, is the CPU and MoBo being able to work together, as I can match their socket types

[unborn epoch]

cpu/mobo/ram will have to be replaced

[gaunt dragon]

Is my ram locked to this mobo/cpu?

[unborn epoch]

maybe not, depends on how old your computer is

is it DDR3 or DDR4?

[gaunt dragon]

DDR3

[unborn epoch]

ya, everything is DDR4 now

[rose eagle]

newegg blows monkey ass.. now Dec1 estimate for my motherboard

[gaunt dragon]

I mean, the MoBo i'm getting isn't exactly "cutting edge"

[unborn epoch]

pray to jesus for christmas cooler sales

[gaunt dragon]

The combo of CPU + MoBo is 100$ even.

[unborn epoch]

everything is cooler during christmas

[rose eagle]

yea i prob just going to put my 212 evo on it for now

see how hot she gets

[unborn epoch]

Well it depends, just keep in mind that there's DDR3 and DDR4

if you know which motherboard you are planning to get you can easily figure out what it'll need

[gaunt dragon]

Mhmm, and to tell the difference between which motherboard uses what?

[unborn epoch]

or ask

[gaunt dragon]

Ahh, under memory type.

[rose eagle]

woof, floe riing 360 outta stock now at newegg

[unborn epoch]

by CPU alone it's quite easy to guess what ram you need without even looking at the motherboard

[gaunt dragon]

Great, DDR3, I won't need new ram.

Probs new PSU though, this one is 400w, which is kindaaa close for comfort already.

[unborn epoch]

do you have 1 or 2 ramsticks?

[gaunt dragon]

2x4gb

[unborn epoch]

ok that's fine

depending on the quality 400w will be fine

i ran my 7700K/1080ti (stock) on a 400w powersupply

[gaunt dragon]

I mean, i5-3470, 750Ti on 400?

[unborn epoch]

easy

[gaunt dragon]

That's what I'm gonna be running.

Huh, neat.

Should be buy these, with my new SSD, and swap them all over next week.

[unborn epoch]

even mediocre quality PSU will handle that

[gaunt dragon]

Then hopefully battlefield.

[unborn epoch]

unless you have 20HDDs or something stupid

but that + HDD/SSD whatever will run fine.

it should run however you might try to get a 2nd hand 970 or something

[gaunt dragon]

Cool. I have a bit of a...weird question.

[unborn epoch]

you caught majic and I kissing?

that's just between us

[rose eagle]

i could get a 240/280mm and toss it up top

[gaunt dragon]

I don't know if this sellers just being lazy or what have you, but the i5-3470 is 4 cores, correct? It's marked down as a single core on their selling page, even though in the title, and the intel website, it says 4.

[rose eagle]

lol he fry everything except 1 core? 😄

[unborn epoch]

it's definitely 4 cores

[gaunt dragon]

I mean, he has 7 more of them, 10 to start with.

So, I doubt it.

[rose eagle]

i5 still gonna hurt...

[gaunt dragon]

I'm going from a Pentium, to a low-end i5.

[rose eagle]

im shocked your 2 core cpu ram works for i5

[gaunt dragon]

I would say that's a world of difference.

[unborn epoch]

it will definitely be a major step up

however BFV is a bitch

people have been complaining about bad performance and had decent GPUs but quadcore cpus

[gaunt dragon]

Yeah, sure, but at least I will hopefully be able to boot the thing.

FPS is a seperate issue I'm willing to deal with, but booting is just so much more frustrating imo.

[unborn epoch]

I haven't really bothered checking any benchmarks, that's something you have to do yourself to get a better picture of how nonHT quadcores perform

well, the CPU is obviously below minimum requirements so it could be just that

jokes aside, when you buy ssd and move over. I suggest a fresh install over cloning

[rose eagle]

lol peeps on ebay tryin to get $150 used out of 6600k wtf

when my 3770k also goes for same

[gaunt dragon]

Oh, I'll probably upgrade to 10 on this machine, and swap the clean 10 version over.

[rose eagle]

3770k >>>>>>>> any i5 non 6c ever released

[unborn epoch]

well, 6600K is 4/4, yours is 4/8

[rose eagle]

yea id buy a 3770k long before a 6600k

[gaunt dragon]

But I've also never done a drive transfer

which, jesus.

Learning process!

[rose eagle]

im not even certain a 9700k is going to beat up on my 3770k 😄

[unborn epoch]

get real

of course it will

it will shit on your 3770k sideways

[rose eagle]

i mean God i hope so but people's perf on V is about mine even on 8700k and a 1080

so that's scary

[strange bough]

daaamn... still getting the "Timed out" connection issue 😦

[rose eagle]

i hope they're all just idiots

[unborn epoch]

they didn't format

format adds 30fps

[rose eagle]

@strange bough you arent on DX12 are you

[strange bough]

I'm not sure

[rose eagle]

oh lordy

lord jesus it's a fire!

reformat

[unborn epoch]

dx12 should work since full release

[rose eagle]

it'll set your settings back to default

i tried dx12 and got same fps

[unborn epoch]

I was called a noob for suggesting a format earlier

[rose eagle]

format solves 99% of life's problems

[unborn epoch]

I'm the opposite. CBA figuring out tiny ass problems these days.

[rose eagle]

yup

i worked in a hospital once, time was importance not troubleshooting

reformat = guaranteed 30m downtime

troubleshoot = who the fk knows

10 hrs?

[unborn epoch]

bunch'o ded folks

[rose eagle]

some of these people in here say "ive been trying to figure this out for 12 hrs"

[gaunt dragon]

hey

i'm still here you know

:P

[unborn epoch]

it wasnt you

it was someone who backed you up

[gaunt dragon]

oh lmao

[rose eagle]

i can reformat and reinstall all program files, pull all my GIT repos and get all my game dev shit back to working order in ~1h30m

[strange bough]

in the hospital you don't have to download 100gb game 😄

[unborn epoch]

if I can't find the problem within a couple of google searches or previous experience = format

[rose eagle]

you dont have to redownload 100gb to reformat...

[unborn epoch]

Well, games don't have to be downloaded if you are doing it correctly.

[rose eagle]

game is just flat files man

leave your gaming drive alone

[unborn epoch]

Either have a seperate SSD/hDD or create game partition on your HDD

never create partitions on SSD

[gaunt dragon]

what if it's the same drive??

[rose eagle]

reformat OS drive, tell Origin to look back to your gaming drive

[strange bough]

true, but if the problem is in your game settings?

[rose eagle]

then you dun fucked up long ago

😄

[gaunt dragon]

loool

[rose eagle]

settings arent in game dir

jebus mother of joseph!

[unborn epoch]

game settings are usually stored in documents or appdata

[rose eagle]

someone get me a stiff drink

[unborn epoch]

settings in game dir is 1999 practice

[rose eagle]

is whiskey night

[unborn epoch]

you should think about buying a new game for once

[rose eagle]

ya'll dun tripped me up

old fashioned on the rox plz

well, just enough ice to melt to chill it, dont fkin leave any rocks left in it

or ill gut you

[unborn epoch]

fuk i missed a blackfriday deal on a shirt i wanted

now i'll have to spend $4 extra

[rose eagle]

reformat

as penalty

[unborn epoch]

shiet

[gaunt dragon]

lmfao

what is the purpose of vPro at the end of this i5 name

??

[rose eagle]

wait no reformat is like positive punishment

i get to CLEAN my PC? YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

[strange bough]

I enabled DX12 and I got into the game without the timeout problem... lol

[rose eagle]

it feels sooo goood

[gaunt dragon]

I imagine it means nothing, and will work just fine

I'm just super sketch of buying the incorrect thing, lol.

[unborn epoch]

vpro is a name for featureset that's business related

so it doesn't matter for you

[gaunt dragon]

ah, k.

and last question, I swear. MicroATX fits in a Mini tower, yeah?

[unborn epoch]

according to the official definition of minitower yes

[gaunt dragon]

Cool. Then off to the metaphorical races we go.

[unborn epoch]

a quick way to see if microatx fits in a case you are looking at is by looking at the amount of PCI slots

if the case has at least 4 slots, it will 99,9% of the time fit

[gaunt dragon]

Yup, it has exactly 4.

[unborn epoch]

ya, that will fit microatx boards

[gaunt dragon]

M'kay.

Thanks for the assistance, off to spend 100$.

[unborn epoch]

good luck

[rose eagle]

im worried what $100 is being spent on

[gaunt dragon]

i5-3470, and ASUS P8b75.

That's the CPU/MOBO combo i'm getting, and the 100$ is going towards.

[unborn epoch]

sounds pretty good

[red ingot]

I got an S9 today as well

Just got it

I went big boy spending today - new monitor and phone

Now I'm happy :D

[unborn epoch]

this guy

i love the shape of s9

i own the s8, which is pretty much identical

very nice phone

visually identical, it has a bunch of upgrades obviously

[rose eagle]

yea wife and i have s8+

tired of her losing iphones to water damage

[gaunt dragon]

I have an s8, Upgraded early last year from my prior LG G2

Man, that was a nice upgrade. Haven't regretted it.

Though my S8 has a weird issue with the headphone jack being really really easy to knock loose, almost like it's not fully inserting.

I'll probs have to take it apart and clean it out.

[rose eagle]

use less lube

[gaunt dragon]

??

tf does that mean lmfao

[rose eagle]

nick knows

[unborn epoch]

ya im going in dry just because of that

[rose eagle]

if it goes in too easy it comes out too easy

useless

[unborn epoch]

i have an issue with my s8, the camera stabilizer or autofocus gets stuck often, i have to bang my phone to get it unstuck

[gaunt dragon]

ahh, inside joke.

[rose eagle]

LITERALLY

[unborn epoch]

also, your headphone jack probably is full of bellyfluff or something