technology

[prime jasper]

im on latest AMD driver and windows 1809

[steep gust]

What CPU?

and have you messed around with iGPU settings?

[prime jasper]

i3 6100

dint touch anything there

[half comet]

Dx11 correct?

Future frame rendering on?

[red ingot]

U have this issue in any other games?

Or just bfv?

[marble kite]

Is it normal to get 40-60 fps on i5 3570 non 'k'. I have 980ti and I feel like it's finally time for an upgrade

[red ingot]

Future frame rendering on dx12 ofc?

Off *

Running in fullscreen mode?

[tiny rampart]

question, what do I need to make my BFV on pc look B E E F Y

[red ingot]

More specific pls

That's not really a question

[tiny rampart]

how do I get solid 60 fps on high or ultra?

[red ingot]

Upgrade gpu/cpu?

Dunno your specs

List and we can be of better assistance

[tiny rampart]

again, played BF1 on ultra 160 fps

its not the gpu

[languid acorn]

@red ingot I'm going to put my willy wonka in your chocolate factory

[steep gust]

@tiny rampart Wait for them to fix BFV

[half comet]

Whats your gpu and cpu?

[bleak minnow]

That's quite a weird performance difference between bf5 and bf1

[half comet]

@marble kite yes that sounds right. Your cpu is going to bottleneck that GPU in BF and alot of other newere games

[steep gust]

not at all how bottlenecks work

[half comet]

Uh what? I didnt ever explain how bottlenecks work.

@steep gust his CPU only has 4 threads. BF wants more than that. And newer games will as well as time passes.

[steep gust]

and yet that still isn't how bottlenecks work

It is not a yes / no

It is dependent on the game and the setting used

He goes to 4k and the GPU is the bottleneck.

Also games use cores, not threads

Games really don't take advantage of hyperthreading since it is better and smarter to just use the physical cores

[mint pendant]

Hi, when I set the frame rate limit to "refresh rate" in Battlefield V it locks my game at 60fps even though my refresh rate is 165hz.

Never mind, it decided to work after the 5th attempt.

[half comet]

@steep gust Wow. First of all. Threads are used. They are game dependent but they are defintely used. They happen to be a subsidiary of Cores.

I know excatly how it all works. Ive been building pcs for 13 years

[rose eagle]

Threaded ops are picked up differently than cores just handling them?

Unity game engine for example was single threaded but you could spawn additional threaded ops which I have no idea how they're then handled

[half comet]

Games have to be coded properly at a low level for other threads to be used. Its CLEAR that Bf5 uses more. I speak from expereience helping people in this channel with outdated CPUs.

[glad stratus]

Is it in the "pinned messages" that you should have dx12 off and future frame rendering on. Or vice versa? Just so a lot of people can quickly go to it.

[half comet]

Dx12 should be off. Future Frame rendering ON.

[west agate]

hellos, have you guys been experiencing crashes?

i have gtx 970, 5820k, ddr4 16gb 3200

fps is pretty great, except heats up like crazy if i dont limit the fps

biggest problem is crashing tho, without any error dialogues

[half comet]

do you have dx12 enabled?

[west agate]

tried both 416.94 and .81

no

dx12 off

frame future thing on

but tried the other way around too, still crashes also

[half comet]

anything weird happen at crashes. Do you monitor CPU GPU usage?

[west agate]

yea all looks good, when i limit frames to 60

gpu usage is like 60-80%

[half comet]

Do you have Gpu Memory limit on?

[west agate]

and at 60c

that on default yea

frames and game runs smooth

on all medium settings

the game just randomly freeze for 1-2 seconds and shuts itself off

with no errors

randomly, every maybe 5-30mins

[mint pendant]

Origin in game, nay or yay?

[west agate]

had it on initially

but i tried it off

and still crashes the same way

[mint pendant]

Ah, my game runs like shit. So annoying.

[west agate]

some guy was talking about v1809 october windows update

so im trying that now

just forced the update

my game runs great actually even on 970

however if i let it go uncapped fps

temps hit 90c quickly

no idea why

and if i jjust let it capped at 60

my 970 barely need to work

60-70% gpu load and 60c

but thats a side issue,,, main one is crashing every ~15mins lmao

hopefully magically windows update v1809 will fix it

losing hope tho

[rose eagle]

BFV new nickname the widowmaker

for yo PC

[red ingot]

@languid acorn that's hot

[fickle stratus]

I have a netduma router I use for COD for low ping servers, should I use it for battlefield?

I don't know how they normally run stuff

[loud kayak]

Yuiiski I feel that.. really ruins my liking of the game, like ive been excited since reveal and played in alpha and beta and i thought it would get better but it seems like fps just got worse

i was just overclocking and on narvik i got under 20 fps majority of the time

like it was better during the alpha

[fickle stratus]

I'm impressed, 22 ping connect to an amazon server.

[terse juniper]

What's a decent CPU for bfv?

Need to upgrade to one which isn't expensive

[loud kayak]

i need to as well... bfv is annoyingly demanding

like every other game ive ever played is great then bf1 and bfv

ugh...

and it sucks because it's the game i like the most

[prime jasper]

my GPU is still not picking up or being used

at all

i reinstalled driver w DDU

game crashes after loading bc it doesnt wanna use GPU

its not even low its like 0

[loud kayak]

are you sure it's plugged in right?

like your wiring

make sure you're not using the intel one

[prime jasper]

yeah and it shows up in device manager

works for every other game too

[lofty light]

You didn't plug the display cable into the mobo?

[latent light]

best price-to-performance CPU in the market currently is the Ryzen 5 2600 @terse juniper

$160 in the USA

another one cheaper than that is Ryzen 5 1500X for $120

[terse juniper]

Anything better for a bit more?

[latent light]

how much we talking

$200?

[terse juniper]

Yeah

[latent light]

since you wanna play battlefield V, any 8th gen Intel or Ryzen CPU with 6+ cores will be perfectly fine

a 4 core with hyperthreading will do well too

[terse juniper]

My CPU knowledge sucks

[latent light]

lol

if you don't want to do any overclocking Ryzen 5 2600X would be better than the 2600

I hope you know that you need a compatible motherboard too lol

[terse juniper]

Yeah lol

[latent light]

my friend bought a $280 i5-8600K and his motherboard only worked for Intel 7000 series chips lmao

[lofty light]

I'd recommend getting just a 2600

[terse juniper]

My current setup is 980, 16gb ddr4, 2tb hdd

[latent light]

2600 is better for price

[terse juniper]

Need a ssd though lol

[lofty light]

They're pretty cheap now

Should be able to get a boot drive for peanuts

[terse juniper]

£150 for that

[lofty light]

I'd always recommend going with Samsung SSDs though

[latent light]

I got a Samsung 970 512GB NVMe SSD for $110 lol

[lofty light]

[latent light]

NVMe SSDs are awesome because they connect directly to the motherboard without the need of cables

[terse juniper]

I'm terrible with CPUs, I need that paste stuff right

[latent light]

yes thermal paste

stuff is cheap

[terse juniper]

Anything else?

[latent light]

Arctic Silver 5 is like $6 a tube I think

[lofty light]

Paste should come with the cooler

[latent light]

infamous, if you don't know how to overclock, you can download Ryzen Master if you have a Ryzen cpu and it overclocks for you

[lofty light]

You won't need anything fancy unless you've got a good coolerv

[latent light]

which is why I suggest a 2600 over 2600X

[terse juniper]

I've got an i5

[latent light]

2600X has a slightly better stock cooler though

is it an old i5?

[lofty light]

Get one of those 212 hyper Evo coolers I think they are

The freaking best price perf

I overclocked a 5820k on one of those before

[latent light]

[lofty light]

It didn't like me very much but it worked 😛

[latent light]

I had an Fx-8350 at 4.6 GHz on a hyper 212 evo lmao

would throttle in stress tests but not in games

@terse juniper btw, upgrading to a new CPU such as Intel 6000, 7000, 8000 series or Ryzen requires new RAM

i take that you use DDR3 correct?

[lofty light]

Yeah ram is a killer for price

[prime jasper]

Hey! i got a problem ... everytime I start BFV I get sendt 2 the "tutorial" / introduction of the game... having 2 load the start of the attack on Norway etc... makes it takes soooo long 2 start the game... any quick fix 2 this?

[lofty light]

As @rose eagle would say, you need to reformat

[prime jasper]

Hey i gotta problem here with me, whenver i alt tab and enter back into the game(fullscreen) It gives me an Error, somewhere along the lines of this: https://imgur.com/a/XBU6sl9
I did update my NVDIA drivers through geforce experience, it is a bit odd and it happens everytime i go back to my game. My Graphics card is a gtx 1060m (6gb) if you need it

[latent light]

there is a slight chance that Nvidia or even Dice forgot to optimize drivers for the 1060M

I had a 960M laptop that would be choosey on what games would work

[lofty light]

Are you running dx12?

[prime jasper]

Right now i have dx12 turned off in the game settings

[lofty light]

Because dx12 is buggy at with mobile GPUs

Oh

[prime jasper]

yeah

[lofty light]

[prime jasper]

But for now i will just play on borderless and see if it still gives me the same problem, its just that i want as much frames as i can get so i set it to fullscreen

[lofty light]

I don't get much if any frame drops in borderless

[prime jasper]

Ah thats good to hear, never tried borderless too. Also do you know why the dx12 preform buggy on mobile gpus? Im not really into directX that much and im confused.

[terse juniper]

Ddr4

[latent light]

1060M is a very good gpu

for a laptop atleast

[terse juniper]

I've got ddr4 ram

[latent light]

DDR4 cool, was hoping you didn't have DDR3

[terse juniper]

Still require a change?

[latent light]

nope

[rose eagle]

@prime jasper maybe check that you have a Documents/Battlefield V folder

[latent light]

all you need then is just a motherboard and CPU

you can find cpu/motherboard deals on Newegg pretty frequently

in combos

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3875324&Description=ryzen 5 2600 b450

this combo right here

A1

[loud kayak]

I have a GTX 960, Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6402P CPU @2.80GHz, and 8GB RAM and when I look on task manager while playing i get around 86% (100% usage overall on cpu) even when overclocked and about 36% of my gpu is used, and 60 fps is an distant dream i get around 30-45 but it dips always on Narvik tonight in the thick of everything I had 17 fps... if I get a new cpu will that fix this low fps problem? should I get more ram as well?

I just want to enjoy the game, low fps is really ruining that

this game is so demanding

[prime jasper]

Yeah, my core i7 mobile chip is preforming pretty high rn to 70 percent. But im able to keep above 60, might be a cpu problem i have no idea

[lofty light]

That CPU is fairly low end yeah for frostbite

[loud kayak]

so it's a cpu problem, my gpu is ok?

[prime jasper]

im sure your gpu will do fine

[loud kayak]

ayyy

[prime jasper]

probably not all ultra settings

but itll do fine with low to medium

[loud kayak]

o jesus not ultra, im fine with low, jsut want 60 fps lol

[lofty light]

I had a 6400T and BF1 gave me like 25 fps

Ended up putting a 8700 in my lan rig instead

[prime jasper]

i could only wish

lol

really regret getting my gaming laptop tho, I got mine for 1700 and till this day i still wonder why i didnt buy a pc

build*

[loud kayak]

oof

[latent light]

actually playing at higher setting will put more work on the GPU rather than the CPU

which is why people play games on low settings and resolution in CPU benchmark comparisons

[prime jasper]

oh really?

[latent light]

yes

so if you play on low, try medium

[prime jasper]

hmm ill try rn

[loud kayak]

yea i read about that and tried it, i didnt see much of a difference tho, ill try it again rn

do you think i should go back to the previous driver update ?

i heard it was better for some people

[latent light]

could work

[prime jasper]

Does battefield have a benchmark test? sorry i dont know a lot

[latent light]

i5-6402P is only ~3% behind a desktop i5-6400 so CPU can't be too much of a problem

[prime jasper]

is it really the gpu then?

[latent light]

Battlefield is pretty CPU heavy though

4 cores/threads can sometimes be too little in BF1 and BFV

[prime jasper]

rip

[rose eagle]

8700k or bust

[prime jasper]

cries

This really is a demanding game

[rose eagle]

my 4c8t i7 is finally showing some age

yea the physics is unreal, not sure what gets sync'd

[latent light]

I'm waiting to Ryzen 3000 series to launch in 4-5 months from now

15-20% higher IPC than Ryzen 2000

[rose eagle]

i mean, what's really going to be new

[latent light]

and 5 GHz clocks

already looking at 4.5 GHz on an engineering sample of a 7nm 8-core cpu

engineering samples usually are half the clocks of the final product

seeing a prototype already hitting 4.5 GHz is a crazy feat

we might even see 5.5 GHz

on the final product

considering the Zen architecture is still new and has a lot of room for improvement

[rose eagle]

the mainstream $300 desktop gaming CPU? 😉

[half comet]

Core clocks dont really matter anymore. Its all about IPC Instructions per clock

[latent light]

IPC of Intel and Ryzen are very similar at this point

5% difference

[half comet]

I was talking more newer gens vs older not brands

[rose eagle]

yea i mean my i7 3770k is same clock as 8700k

[latent light]

put Intel and Ryzen both at the same clock speed, let's say, 4 GHz, performance will be the same

[rose eagle]

i dont know if i trust AMD yet with execution of instructions

[sonic osprey]

core clocks has only been a thing when comparing same level of processor architecture, otherwise its always IPC if wanting to compare between various architectures

[latent light]

yes, IPC is important

[rose eagle]

what is 2700x base clock?

[latent light]

but Ryzen only needs improved core clocks in order to be highly competitive

3.7 GHz base clock for 2700X

max boost is 4.3

[rose eagle]

which is what like 4ghz all cores?

[latent light]

and max overclock is 4.5 GHz I believe

[rose eagle]

specifically for BF perf since it roasts every single core and thread you can throw at it 😄

someone was saying 2700x was only like 50% usage, but the speed of that processing seems to put it well below par of even my 3770k at 100 load

[latent light]

2700X is such an amazing CPU because the stock cooler is comparable to a $50 third party air cooler lol

[rose eagle]

i bet a 2700x wouldnt even be an upgrade in V for me

3770k is 3.5ghz but ive got 4.3 atm so what does that do to the boost?

which was 3.9

[sonic osprey]

my cpu on 4c8t 4770k@4.2 is at 80-90% on bfv with 2080, all ultra 2k, so I would guess lowering details and getting a new cpu would get me more than 100-120fps

[rose eagle]

can you get 100% GPU even on ultra?

[sonic osprey]

yeah its 98-100%

[rose eagle]

1440p?

[sonic osprey]

for 3840x1080

[rose eagle]

ah ha

yea thats a bit above 2k

ah you only get like 80fps?

[sonic osprey]

avg about 105-110, sometimes dips under 90 depending on map

[rose eagle]

im seeing like 100fps right now on my 2070 with Post on low

15% hit there so sounds right

but my GPU is only at 70%

[latent light]

2700X would see 10-20% higher fps than 3770K

[rose eagle]

meh

its a multiprocessing CPU

[latent light]

IPC of 2700X is comparable to a 4790K I think

maybe even 6700K

[rose eagle]

nothing is worthwhile except an 8700k

[latent light]

or 9700K

[rose eagle]

if there was some absolute guarantee the current AMD board/ram would support the new Ryzen shit next year it would be a consideration

[latent light]

it is a guarantee that all first gen boards will be supported til 2020

2020 is when DDR5 ram comes out

and it will be backwards compatible with DDR4

since the notch will be in the same spot

[rose eagle]

man wtf did they do to BFV lol

the 2700x hung in on BF1

but V just destroys it

[latent light]

BFV shouldn't have any real performance problems since it's the same engine

[rose eagle]

yea but they seemed to really up the vfx

feel like theres a lot more levolution goin on

[latent light]

there is

BFV has a lot more destruction than BF1

[rose eagle]

thatll sandbag the servers and local CPU i assume

i have no idea how the hell they sync just enough of it to be viable over network and make sure everyone sees the exact same thing

[latent light]

does your game stutter on i7-3770K?

[rose eagle]

deterministic physics

nah

[sonic osprey]

doubt they sync other stuff than "does this object still exist and where and how it is oriented now"

and the clients do their physics separatedly

[rose eagle]

im sure some sorta seed is only syncd

for that destruction point

[latent light]

as long as CPU load stays under 90%, should be no stutter

[rose eagle]

windows shows it cooked 100%

[sonic osprey]

all the debris that happen is different on everyones machine, I mean the debris that gets shown and disappears

[atomic atlas]

Tempting

[latent light]

canada?

[atomic atlas]

Aud

[rose eagle]

yea theres 0% chance they can sync all the destruction itself and positions/rotations to every client

[latent light]

ah

[rose eagle]

not enough bits to toss around in packets for that shit

[atomic atlas]

I’ll wait for Friday

[latent light]

not too bad for AU

[atomic atlas]

Hopefully

They go down further

All the ryzen cpus are on special atm

[rose eagle]

really like my EVGA 2070 XC

[atomic atlas]

Getting ready for Black Friday

Hopefully the Icores are on special

[latent light]

I saw a 1080 Ti for $600

in usa

[atomic atlas]

That’s USD

[latent light]

yeah lol

[atomic atlas]

So $800 aud

[latent light]

nvidia cards don't have huge sales though

[atomic atlas]

That’s the usual price here

Yeah I’m hoping at least ram goes down

But

[latent light]

for some reason, cards like the 1050 Ti and 1060 are still above their launch MSRP

[atomic atlas]

On new egg atm

3400mhz G skillz

$120!

16gb

Like wtf

That’s a steal

[latent light]

hell yeah

[rose eagle]

theres an ASRock $165 board on sale for $110 after MIR that i keep staring at

[latent light]

I got 2666 MHz G Skill RipJaws V but I overclocked it to 3000 lol

[flint locust]

wtf might go 32gb ram, cause fuck it why not

[atomic atlas]

Might as well

At that point

[flint locust]

tfw you type amazon in discord and not in your browser

[atomic atlas]

Lol

Amazon hasn’t started yet

[rose eagle]

i should just chill on my 3770k for some time

[flint locust]

apparently the deals started here

yeeeet

[latent light]

32GB ram would mean you would be good for 5-10 years lol

unless you need DDR5

[rose eagle]

i can boost the res scale to 130% to max my GPU

adds sharpness

visual > fps

as long as i can still maintain 100 i dunno why im pissy about the 3770k

[latent light]

i hate maxing out my gpu because it gets hot

like 80C

with fans maxed

[rose eagle]

didnt pay $550 to use 70% of it 😄

[flint locust]

i max my gpu out all the time

if it dies, that is my excuse to upgrade

[latent light]

lol

[rose eagle]

fkin warranty lasts longer than replacing

my 970 i only had 2 yrs

[flint locust]

bought my 970 right when it came out

still works fine

bought a 1tb ssd the other day, only $120. Take my money

[rose eagle]

for 1080p it would yea

[latent light]

3.5GB GDDR5 with 0.5GB DDR4

[rose eagle]

get a lot longer life out of video cards if you dont go to 1440p x_x

[latent light]

i got a samsung 970 evo 512GB for $110

[flint locust]

got the 960 evo 1tb

when it arrives ill have 2tb of ssd space

[latent light]

lol

be wary, filled up SSD storage greatly reduces the life of it

[flint locust]

i don't have any mechanical drives in my PC. Even my boot drive is an m.2 drive.

[latent light]

having 20% free space on an SSD is optimal

[flint locust]

yea i know my 1tb now has about 750gb used

[latent light]

i only have my os and a few games on my ssd

[loud kayak]

@latent light I tried the all medium thing and tho it made my gpu work harder it made my cpu hit 91% and the frames were worse

overall Narvik is just unplayable for me ahh

always under 30 fps

I feel dice are being a bit ridiculous with the requirements

[latent light]

[loud kayak]

Ive never had a fps issue until bf1 and now heavily with bfv

[lofty light]

Have you got future frame rendering on?

[latent light]

what is your cpu usage when everything is closed except task manager

[loud kayak]

ye

i took a pic lemme see

[latent light]

bloatware can cause unnecessary high cpu usage

[loud kayak]

it was 98% when i took it

[latent light]

also windows update can too

[loud kayak]

bfv took up 89% of that

[latent light]

i guess 4 cores/threads isn't enough for battlefield now

[sonic osprey]

it is

[latent light]

my quad core gets pegged at 90% usage sometimes touching 100%

[rose eagle]

would have to see some insane as hell sales on AMD stuff to buy into hoping next year brings good tidings

[latent light]

best to wait for next gen ryzen

[rose eagle]

yea 4c8t is 100% pegged on mine

but.. but.. sales 😄

next gen ryzen should fit on x470 + pc3200 ram?

[sonic osprey]

it totally depends how many frames you want

[latent light]

yes as long as that x470 board has a bios update

[sonic osprey]

if you want 144fps ofc you are cpu bound, on low details, quite hard to get such framerate from gpu too unless low details

[rose eagle]

i do get some dips at times

that could be cpu

[latent light]

X570 boards will come out with Ryzen 3000 CPUs

[rose eagle]

would suck for a 2700x to be a downgrade 😄

[latent light]

in april/may

[rose eagle]

yeh but V will be old

T_T

[latent light]

in 5 months?

[atomic atlas]

That was quick

lol

[latent light]

oof

[loud kayak]

at least getting 30 fps consistently and my enjoyment of bfv

[lofty light]

Ple still don't have my 2080ti in stock

[latent light]

some people are having problems running BFV at 60 fps on a 1080

[loud kayak]

imma look into a cpu, prob will get one, what about ram, should i get up to 16gb(does it help with fps at all)

yea man ive been on reddit and such, even people with the 10 series gpu's are having problems

i like the game but it's a big yikes

[lofty light]

I've been having issues running with my 1080, but I'm still going bound as I'm running at almost 4k

[latent light]

future frame rendering in the game settings is supposed to help a lot

[loud kayak]

ya

[latent light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP8udDXeJPc

holy shit

check this out

single channel RAM gets way lower performance than dual channel in BFV

like 50% lower

check and see if your pc has 2 sticks of RAM instead of 1

[sonic osprey]

It's all about frame time, not "fps" when it comes to getting required performance from GPU/CPU combo, Lets say CPU can do 60fps, that equals to 16.67ms for the GPU to render the frame, in order to maintain the 60fps. If GPU can deliver more than that then it is "CPU bound", if GPU delivers less than that then it is "GPU bound".

[loud kayak]

the thing is ive played the alpha and beta and during each ive looked extensively as to up my fps and hoping that on full release things would get better

[sonic osprey]

good article to read https://www.mvps.org/directx/articles/fps_versus_frame_time.htm

[loud kayak]

im CPU bound it seems

also i have 1 8gb stick

[latent light]

check and see if your cpu isn't getting too hot

yeah, BFV benefits a fuckton from 2 sticks

more than any other game I've seen

[polar oxide]

thats wierd tho

the number of ram sticks shouldn't matter in a hardware point of view

[latent light]

it does

[polar oxide]

must have fucked up the software

[sonic osprey]

it does if its dual channel

[latent light]

dual channel and single channel are very different

[polar oxide]

well yes it is a difference, but not that significant

*shouldn't be that significant

[latent light]

let's say you buy a single stick of 2400 MHz, it will only run at 1200MHz because in order to reach that 2400MHz speed, it needs another 1200MHz stick

[sonic osprey]

dual channel practically doubles the access speed over single channel

[latent light]

^

[loud kayak]

ok so im buying another stick

does it ahve to be the same one

exactly?

[latent light]

try to get the same model if you can

[sonic osprey]

same model or same spec at least

[latent light]

yeah same speed and model

[loud kayak]

okie

[latent light]

what speed is your ram rated at?

Speccy is an app that will tell you everything you need to know

[loud kayak]

okie

8.00GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1064MHz (15-15-15-36)

[latent light]

ah i see

2133mhz ram

but since it's single channel

1064mhz

doesn't say the brand

weird

[loud kayak]

XPG Z1 DDR4 DRAM Module

i looked it up before

[north crow]

the reason it shows 1064MHz and not 2133 is because it's DDR - double data rate - so it's 1064MHz doubled - and not because it's single-channel, isn't it?

[loud kayak]

pretty sure it's this

[latent light]

yes drag

[north crow]

for example, for me it shows this:

alright good, just making sure I hadn't confused things 😛

[lavish trail]

anyone else having issues with not recieving deluxe or pre order items

[latent light]

in reality, your ram is 2400mhz

[north crow]

yeah

[latent light]

each stick is at 1200

[north crow]

🤔 pretty sure it's still both sticks at 1200, doubled

not because of dual-channel, but because of the design of DDR ram

[latent light]

@loud kayak too be honest, you don't need the same exact ram model

it just has to be the same speed

[loud kayak]

so another 1064MHz?

[latent light]

it will be labelled as 2133

[loud kayak]

okie

so should i hold off on getting a cpu?

[latent light]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232248&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

this will do fine

your cpu should be fine as long as it's not getting hot and throttling

[loud kayak]

well rn it's 31 C

[latent light]

without any games

[loud kayak]

yea

i was about to say that

i imagine that changes

[latent light]

your cpu is a power efficient version of the i5-6400

[loud kayak]

i do want to say thank you all so much for helping me

[latent light]

np

[loud kayak]

i havent been excited for a game in 2 years(since overwatch)

and it's sad that im losing my liking of the game because of fps

[latent light]

did you run overwatch well?

your setup should play 60 fps on epic settings on that game

[loud kayak]

o i run ow so well

[latent light]

my old gtx 770 ran overwatch on epic settings 60+ fps

[loud kayak]

:o

dang that game is optimized

[lofty light]

Overwatch doesn't have much going on tbh

[latent light]

overwatch is more cpu demanding than gpu

[loud kayak]

i used to play on a team and we were pretty good, played in tournaments and such, i enjoyed streaming that game, i wanted to do something similar with bfv as well

[sonic osprey]

well in overwatch there is 12 players on the map, maps are smaller... in bfv there is 64 players and maps are larger and mostly open areas so "everything" has to be accounted

[latent light]

also, is your 960 a 2GB or 4GB?

[loud kayak]

Intel HD Graphics 510 (ASUStek Computer Inc) + 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 (MSI)

[latent light]

nice

4GB model is nice to have

directly comparable to 1050 Ti

[loud kayak]

:D

idk the point of the intel one tho

[latent light]

integrated graphics built onto the cpu itself

used for desktop use

not for gaming lol

[loud kayak]

yea ive seen when i accidently plugged into that one and tried to play a game

i was so confused lol

looking around, i might just buy this one you linked rn (the ram)

[latent light]

one thing you should check is your cpu temperatures in game

[loud kayak]

will rn then

should i overclock?

[latent light]

no

[loud kayak]

CPU stays around 47 C, motherboard 51, gpu 58

[latent light]

is that with you minimizing the game and checking speccy?

[loud kayak]

No I have it running on the side

2 monitors

[latent light]

oh

no throttling then

[loud kayak]

When no one is around and not much stuff is happening I hit 60 for a small moment in time and it's AMAZING

Thank you Hamada!

[latent light]

dual channel ram will help a lot

seems like single channel ram isn't good at running borth BF1 and BFV

[loud kayak]

Imma look at other sites and if I don't see a better deal imma buy this one tonight you sent

this one you sent me is still the best right now

[latent light]

yeah i found it on pcpartpicker

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[loud kayak]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233771&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

this one or the one you sent?

[latent light]

no but that one works too

[loud kayak]

no?

[pastel lily]

What XMP Profile is best?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qvVQMZ

[latent light]

matt is that your build

or you wanting to buy that

[pastel lily]

its my 2nd pc

[loud kayak]

the timing on the one you sent is 15-15-15-35 and mine is Timing 15-15-15-36

is that ok?

so im asking so many questions

it's just that im about to buy it

@latent light

[latent light]

Should be fine

[loud kayak]

thank you so so so much

for everything

[pastel lily]

What da ya say Grim

XMP Profile

[latent light]

If you have 2133 MHz ram then it should already run at that speed even with XMP disabled

[craggy dagger]

does it have any negatives?

[pastel lily]

FFR causes input lag

but thats soo low its negligible

[leaden inlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9vte98/future_frame_rendering_an_explanation/

[craggy dagger]

@pastel lily input lag is like worse connection to servers?

[leaden inlet]

no, input lag to your PC

[pastel lily]

No

[craggy dagger]

then it does have negatives

[leaden inlet]

its very small its almost nothing

[pastel lily]

Its the time taken by the PC to actually shoot when you click on the mouse

[craggy dagger]

input lags are like fps lag spikes?

lmao people here must get crazy from me

[worldly sable]

Guys do you know why the game Reset its settings every time im opening the game?

[pastel lily]

So if I click the Shoot button on my mouse now, if the input lag is very large (which is impossible) it will take more than 2 seconds for the game to actually shoot

get my point or something like that?

Few people had that problem @worldly sable

[worldly sable]

how do you fix it?

[pastel lily]

I've not experienced with it, I'd suggest you check EA Help forums or contact support

I think its related to the GeForce experience app

Perhaps tweak settings there

[worldly sable]

how can i teak anything there?

tweak*

[pastel lily]

Open ur GFE App and then open BFV Optimization settings

tweak ur graphic settings there

or just edit your config files and set it to Read Only Mode

[prime jasper]

Where is the multiplayer button

[worldly sable]

i hope thats gonna work thanks pal!

[prime jasper]

I dont see it in the menu

[pastel lily]

Click on Play [ Main Menu ] > Multiplayer ?

[prime jasper]

I only have campaign. Do I need to wait till its 100% downloaded?

I am at playable stage

[leaden inlet]

yeah wait for 100%

for MP

[prime jasper]

Ah kk

Silly me sorry guys lol.

[winter trout]

Good afternoon or evening! Prompt I test here such problems in a game on the PC: there is no connection to servers, periodically I cannot choose or change the weapon, equipment at a class. Not bought from the equipment branch pumping. No statistics after the fight. Everyone has the same problems.

[leaden inlet]

🤔

[terse juniper]

@latent light so I'm gonna get an i5 6600k

Or 7600k

Depending on how much I get

[pastel lily]

It sometimes happens @winter trout , I'd suggest you to restart the game

[latent light]

4 core 4 thread cpu

Not much of an upgrade tbh

[winter trout]

@pastel lily Yes and mostly do, sometimes after restart will not connect. And when you join a squad to a friend, she immediately connects. Disconnected the router and did a direct connection and also the same error. Well, while doing so by restarting the game. Thanks for reply!

[latent light]

@terse juniper what i5 do you currently have

[covert fractal]

does renderdevice.renderaheadlimit still help lower cpus?

[sonic osprey]

input lag can be explained with a simple example, imaging your GPU can only produce 1 frame per second, so every second the screen is refreshed, your CPU could however do updates up to 100 times per second, so your mouse movements, clicks, keyboard presses all are evaluated 100 times per second, but you only get visual confirmation of that once per second, imagine playing like that

[terse juniper]

@latent light i5 3rd gen

3000 or something lol

Cant remember

[unborn epoch]

Ea/origin is dumb as hell

They send me mail telling me I can play bfv today by buying it

[atomic atlas]

@unborn epoch Any form of racial slurs isnt tolerated here

Just saying

[unborn epoch]

Roger that

[vestal oasis]

If I wanted to record something in the game would the best software be OBS?

Please ping me

[unborn epoch]

Ya obs is good @vestal oasis

[winter osprey]

Anyone else got an issue where they unlock the next gun and it says it will unlock next round? I've had the bren unlocked for a bunch of rounds but I can't enable it

[unborn epoch]

Should be fixed once you complete a game now

[wicked wren]

I have significantly better framerate with DX12, but every benchmark I saw was saying the opposite, that DX11 has better frames.

With a GTX 1070

Am I the only one,

?

[rigid knoll]

This is probably old news, but spotted on Reddit: "We're currently working on delivering an update alongside the Tides of War Chapter 1: Overture release on December 4th that should resolve many of the issues we are experiencing."

[haughty terrace]

My bf5 won’t work

I’m re installing to see if it works

It says I’m Playing it but I’m not

[pastel lily]

Restart Origin as Admin

Disable all overlays [ especially Discord ]

Reinstall Origin [not the game but Origin client ]

[haughty terrace]

Why discord overlay breaks it?

[green nebula]

Definitely discord overlay

[pastel lily]

and

[green nebula]

its massively fucky

[haughty terrace]

I was on discord when launching

In a call

[pastel lily]

Discord and games dont go hand in hand

Disable the overlays

[haughty terrace]

Okay

So discord on my phone or something ?

[pastel lily]

u can use dicord

u can use call in discord

just not the overlay

[haughty terrace]

Okay

I re installed over night

2 hrs left

[pastel lily]

but for starters and helping to narrowing down the problem, i suggest you to completely quit discord and try launching game

[haughty terrace]

It says 7 percent

[pastel lily]

make sure Origin is the only app running, restart PC before u do so

and run origin as Admin

[haughty terrace]

Thanks

[queen field]

@wicked wren battlefield 1 or 5? BF1, its runs like ass on my 1070 too

dx12*

dx11 is alright

paired with an 4770k @4.3ghz, 4x4gb 2.4ghz if that matters

[rigid knoll]

@queen field strangely I feel like DX12 is better on my setup, and I'm running 1070 too

[queen field]

mb if i missed out on which bf i played, its battelfield 1 that runs like ass with dx12

i get microstuttering, weird shit happening in game like fps would drop outta sudden

basically it runs like ass as i mentioned before

bf4 runs flawlessly well with dx11, didnt bother with mantle and i doubt nvidia gpu's can run mantle? I may be wrong with that

[craggy dagger]

a question

if i use fast sync, will I be able to use fps above 60? (my monitor's 60hz

i have gtx 1060 6gb

[dim knoll]

Finally

AMD releases drivers supporting BFV

Good to know it wasn't my pc

[craggy dagger]

if what i said is true it will make my day lmao

saves me 400$ for 144Hz monitor

[rigid knoll]

Well if your monitor refreshes only 60 times per second...

[green nebula]

I mean, if you push higher frames than your monitor can handle in Hz, you'll get a big bad case of screen tearing

[queen field]

no, fast sync is a poor man's gsync/fresync

and basically v sync, capping to ur monitor refresh rate

however with reduced input latency

[craggy dagger]

so no non screen tearing above 60fps for me ever? (unless i buy a new monitor)

[green nebula]

sounds about right

mostly

[craggy dagger]

:(((((

[rigid knoll]

Even if you go above 60fps, the monitor will still only show you 60 frames per second. Game would react faster to your inputs though?

[floral pilot]

so im trying to reinstall my intel drivers for my i5 8600k , but when i install it, it says "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software please help

[storm osprey]

storage?

[floral pilot]

nope

[storm osprey]

thats the only thing i can think of that will cause problems

[floral pilot]

[calm crown]

is this game RAM heavy

well like more ram heavy than bf1

[unborn epoch]

you need some other drivers first

intel is dumb like that

IEM or whatever it's called

[calm crown]

what drivers tho

[steep gust]

@floral pilot tbh I didn't update my drivers for my 8600k and I'm fine

[storm osprey]

uzi, i think nick was talking to aksel

[calm crown]

o

[storm osprey]

bf has always been a complete system check

[steep gust]

I'm on the 4/21/2009 driver for my 8600k

[storm osprey]

but bf1 compared to bfv, i wouldnt know, i dont own it, but saying it just launched i would say wait for optimizations before assuming one thing or another

[steep gust]

BF1 is leagues easier to run than BFV

BFV is fucked right now

Also you don't need CPU drivers unless you are going to use the iGPU (for encoding, etc)

[floral pilot]

@steep gust nah i just wanted to check if reinstalling would make a difference

im dealing with fps thats not good

cant get 80 with my i5 8600k and a gtx 1080

[steep gust]

hm

Overclocked?

[floral pilot]

no

[steep gust]

CPU or GPU bottlenecked?

Watch task manager as you play

[floral pilot]

yeah cpu is bottlenecking

idk why

but it shouldnt

[calm crown]

wait u cant?

when my fps isnt taking a shit dive bc ram, im sitting at a high fps

[steep gust]

@floral pilot Look into overclocking

I run my 8600k at 5.0ghz and its much nicer

[calm crown]

what cooler

[floral pilot]

okay! what software should i use

i got an nzxt aio

[steep gust]

BIOS

240mm+?

[floral pilot]

yessir

[calm crown]

imagine owning a 120mm AIO

[steep gust]

You can get some thick 120mm radiators that are almost equal to a 240mm

If you don't know what you are doing, I would just sync all cores in the BIOS

[calm crown]

im gonn get a 280mm AIO soon

[floral pilot]

thanks!

[storm osprey]

@calm crown i have a 120mm AIO lol

[calm crown]

lmao for reakl

[storm osprey]

but my cpu doesnt OC

i got it on sale for like 50 bucks

i like how it looks vs a fat ass cpu cooler

[steep gust]

Its also loud as fuck

[storm osprey]

my 120mm is definitely not the loudest of my stuff

[unborn epoch]

i like it loud

[steep gust]

My H100i (240mm) is impossible to hear in most games but my CPU is a golden chip

[unborn epoch]

MUH RaDio, BeliEvE Me. I liKe It LouD

[storm osprey]

the coilwhine from my gpus is the loudest thing in my system

[steep gust]

I mean I always listen to music while playing games so 🤷

[unborn epoch]

spotify app is so shit

[steep gust]

Download the installer

Don't use the windows store

[unborn epoch]

if I have it as my active window my screen's saturation changes

you can download .exe without trojans?

that is newto me

[steep gust]

https://www.spotify.com/us/download/

[floral pilot]

whats safe to oc it to?

[steep gust]

Depends on the CPU

[floral pilot]

same as you

[calm crown]

how are u having issues with spotify without trojans?

[steep gust]

Mine can do 5.3ghz at 1.4v

[calm crown]

where do u download from? YT?

[unborn epoch]

about 1 googolplex hertz

[storm osprey]

"hey goo goo

[steep gust]

100% of 8600k were able to hit 4.8ghz at 1.375v

https://siliconlottery.com/pages/statistics

[storm osprey]

i mean, thats reported right

[floral pilot]

how do i go into bios?

[calm crown]

lets see if i cant get 5.3ghz

id be special asf

[steep gust]

mash delete when booting

or F2 or whatever the motherboard is set to

[unborn epoch]

those numbers are only tested with delidded cpus

[steep gust]

It should say at the bottom when the motherboard logo is up

yeah no delid

5.3ghz @1.4v 🤷

[calm crown]

wtf they sell cpus on the website

[unborn epoch]

i wonder when we will see the first THz transistor

[steep gust]

Probably never

Silicon can only go so far

[unborn epoch]

in 2005 or something they already reached 600ghz

not talking about a full cpu, just one transistor

[steep gust]

You might be able to do a single transistor on an exotic element

but that means nothing

https://hwbot.org/submission/3959594_

I replaced my motherboard and need to push my CPU again

but eh work

[floral pilot]

So 4.3hz?

[steep gust]

Does your motherboard have multi core enhancement?

If so just enable that and get a 4.3ghz overclock

https://www.tweaktown.com/guides/8481/coffee-lake-overclocking-guide/index.html

Also read this

[floral pilot]

Thanks

@steep gust can I dm you?

[steep gust]

Yeah sure

[floral pilot]

I got dms off can you accept?

[tiny rampart]

Is optimization being worked on yet?

[unborn epoch]

LooooooooooooooooooL ya no

[tiny rampart]

Ea plz

[steep gust]

Most likely yes

[tiny rampart]

It's been 11 days

[steep gust]

Its a major holiday

[tiny rampart]

Oh yeah

But they had 9 days

[steep gust]

weekends

[tiny rampart]

Maybe get sumtang

[storm osprey]

the game just officially launched

1 day ago?

[red ingot]

Patch coming Dec 4

We gotta wait

[storm osprey]

essentially 2 weeks after launch

seems decent

[red ingot]

Yeah

I mean

[sonic osprey]

oh right game launched, welp, rip game, ded game from now

[red ingot]

I'd rather they pushed out another small patch to fix the issues they have fixed rn

Like the big issues

Like me being stuck at lvl 50....

[rose eagle]

use the web app

[faint fern]

Anyone else experience this:

About 130 fps, but then i look at my task manager, and my CPU and GPU don't go above like 70% usage :/

[storm osprey]

@red ingot i personally dont see level progressing being stuck as a major problem

and annoyance sure

but something that fucks with in game gameplay imo is more of a concern

or general optimization

[red ingot]

well

okay fair

but i mean people are having infinite loading screen bugs, weapon sight alignment bugs, games not ending, assignments not working, etc.

those are gaming breaking imo

[storm osprey]

exactly, work on those

[red ingot]

and for me level progressing is an issue cause no more company coins

😦

[storm osprey]

its an issue yes, and it should work

but i think there are more important things

[red ingot]

but yeah fair not game breaking

true

i just dont understand how they only built progression up to lvl 50

which i got to in like 35h

[storm osprey]

are you good?

[red ingot]

i'd say im average

[storm osprey]

hm

that seems a bit weak

but wouldnt bother me none

[red ingot]

i just want my

[rose eagle]

35h is a ton of time

you will taper off im sure after this

even if there were 200 lvls?

[sonic osprey]

35hours is a lot for casual gamers

[red ingot]

is it tho

well there we have it

[sonic osprey]

well imaging playing 1-2 hours / day or so

[red ingot]

Snutten is just a god

xD

i feel like the hours played listed in bf is only time spent in a match

so not in menus

and campaign yeah

[sonic osprey]

my stats suck, since first bf game i have played, but today 4 rounds with about 4 k/d

[red ingot]

o:

2.39 kd op

i wish it showed spm in that big stat page tho rather than having to go to statistics

imo spm > kdr in bf

and like for me rn i don't start my new job till january so right now my only obligations is finishing school, which occupies maybe 2h of my day

so if i sleep 8h i literally have 16h to do other stuff, 2h classwork, 14h of free time

no

stay with us

[sonic osprey]

ban snutten

for abusing channels

[red ingot]

snutten nooo

don't leave us

[unborn epoch]

Idiet

[rose eagle]

fk u microcenter

closest is 4h

$250 2700x + $30 bundle discounts and crap they run

[narrow fable]

35 hours is nothing

300 hours is getting your money's worth in a game

[rose eagle]

60 hrs is

what can you do for $1/hr

[red ingot]

nm for me rn

im literally so fucking booooooored

[rose eagle]

mobo i was following went outta stock gg

i bet $340 is bottom price for 8700k

[red ingot]

rip

[rose eagle]

unless you live near a damn microcenter

[red ingot]

ive been following my monitor

[narrow fable]

OI

[red ingot]

was 8 in stock monday, 7 on tuesday

what dummy couldn't wait 3 days

for the big black friday sales

[narrow fable]

There's a 1TB Evo 860 for just 130 dolla on amazon

[red ingot]

get itttt

[narrow fable]

Already own one

[rose eagle]

buy all the things!!!!!!

stimulate economy!

[red ingot]

i just want that sweet sweet 970 evo

apparently with that u can boot into windows faster than your monitor turns on

[unborn epoch]

Im hyped for December 8th

[red ingot]

why

[unborn epoch]

Poe 3.5.0

[rose eagle]

i need moar info about changes so ill have to grill my buddy

[red ingot]

moar info about wat changes

[rose eagle]

poe

but, Dec 4 tides of warrrrrr

[cinder temple]

Its either great or a huge disappointment;)

[red ingot]

better be great

[unborn epoch]

Poe master rework is bigdick

Poe hideout rework, new tilesets

Leaguemechanic im kind of avoiding

[main anchor]

what do you guys think of i5-8600K with an ASUS ROG Strix z390-H mobo

[green nebula]

👌

[main anchor]

the H type is basically like the E-type but with no RGB lighting

i have 1 question

just to confirm the i5-8600K does take Version 2 of LGA1151?

[red ingot]

"no RGB"

wat

y u do dis

[main anchor]

RGB is just another thing that can break

[red ingot]

but it looks so sexy

[storm osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KFFssZ

[red ingot]

and everyone knows rgb makes ur pc run faster

[storm osprey]

no compatibility issues per pcpartpicker

[main anchor]

i have a Corsaire H100i cooler that has rgb corsair logo. it works fine but the blue light is burnt out

[red ingot]

that sucks

[storm osprey]

the color blue gives the 2nd most fps boost

[red ingot]

i have mine on blue to keep my pc nice and cool

[storm osprey]

hmm, further testing is needed

[main anchor]

i have a green theme going with my case

but i might switch to red

[storm osprey]

basic

[main anchor]

does changing the colour to red increase heat?

[storm osprey]

yea, buts its the fastest

[main anchor]

i feel blue makes your computer sad

[storm osprey]

i have orange theme

[main anchor]

making your computer feel like slitting its' wrists

oorange is cool

what do you goys think of g.skill memory

[red ingot]

i like it

i've had my g skill for like 5 years now no issues

and my computer is happy even tho it's blue 😄

cause it's nice and cool

[main anchor]

i'm probably gonna get 2x8GB trident Z sticks

[storm osprey]

i will only buy corsair or gskill ram

and i try not to get corsair stuff since everyone gets corsair

[red ingot]

lol

but y

[storm osprey]

its basic

[main anchor]

corsair vengence is good price but their Dominator ram is pricey

[storm osprey]

like red builds

[red ingot]

true

[storm osprey]

SHOTS FIRED

[red ingot]

i just like corsair (for peripherals at least) just cause i've had them from day 1 no issues

[storm osprey]

red used to be my favorite color, till i realized its a shit ton of peoples favorite color, so thats why i went orange

[red ingot]

so why switch? plus i've heard tons of bad stuff about razer/Logitech peripherals

[main anchor]

I have a Corsair 750D case

[red ingot]

ohhh i have a 600D

we almost twins

[storm osprey]

logi peripherals are fantastic though...

the 1 corsair mouse i had effed up

[red ingot]

idk just what i've heard + my corsair mouse lasted me like 8 years (and i mean still going strong, but said fuck it why not upgrade)

keyboard still working fine too

[storm osprey]

i had my corsair m60 for like 1-2 years and scroll wheel started messing up

[red ingot]

plus corsair rgb memes

ah true i did have scroll wheel issues with it...

[main anchor]

btw i'm gonna be making the switch to Intel from AMD

[storm osprey]

their stuff imo is not the best value either

[red ingot]

but that was a minor thing for me

yeah i guess

although I got this mouse on sale for $40

regular $90

[storm osprey]

my g pro is bygones better than my m60

[red ingot]

want a new keyboard but they're all like $200... on sale - like $250 regular

[storm osprey]

see..

[main anchor]

going from an AMD FX8320 to an Intel i5-8600X I should notice a big boost in performance

[red ingot]

yeah

[storm osprey]

corsair is like asus, they just charge more

[red ingot]

true

pay for the brand name

but i mean if i get it all corsair then i can just use one utility rather than five

[storm osprey]

you can get a fully modular keyboard for less than that

[main anchor]

ASUS makes the best motherboards

[red ingot]

link?

im considering a new keyboard so if you have some suggestions im open

[storm osprey]

me link?

[red ingot]

yes

i remember u being a keyboard enthusiast

unless i misremember

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yea thats me

[rose eagle]

can get a 9700k for $350....

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i have a Corsair k63

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depends what you want, imo i would put one together

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it's tenkeyless

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yeah i mean i don't need a new keyboard but it'd be nice

if i can get a good deal

[rose eagle]

or 8700k for $340

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and damn majic

just get the 9700k

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do you like TKL?

[rose eagle]

$10 more for 9700k? they perform similar..

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yes

[rose eagle]

sometimes HT works

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pay the $10 and be done with it

[rose eagle]

ebay has 15% off sitewide today

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O.o

[rose eagle]

newegg has 9700k listed

on their ebay newegg store

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and sorry whats tkl?

wait there's an ebay newegg?

oh man

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https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/gmmk-full-customized
GMMK, modular switches, pick whatever you want and just pop them in

tkl is tenkeyless

without numpad on the right

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ohh ok

[storm osprey]

GMMK comes with both options

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ok

fuuu

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i have TKL at work that im using right now with kailh brown switches, looking to switch aliaz switches into it though

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i mean i never really use the numpad on the side but i feel like it's a nice option to have..