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rose eagle
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starts swinging a samurai sword around wildly

red ingot
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gets even more aroused

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confused boner

dreamy tinsel
languid acorn
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cuts off dick and swings it around

red ingot
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i think day 19 of no nut is getting to me

rose eagle
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they extended this sale 6 days

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fuckers lol

red ingot
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o no not my dick

languid acorn
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I failed on day 9

rose eagle
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it "ended today"

red ingot
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lol

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most of the deals ive seen

rose eagle
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and they r einstated the sale

red ingot
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end thursday

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right before black friday

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implying something bigger and better will be coming

dreamy tinsel
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Yagman you so slow I have to go play again

rose eagle
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says ends in 6 days, saturday

red ingot
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i said most

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silly

dreamy tinsel
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I had dinner, cleaned the apartment etc. in the time you took a shit

rose eagle
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how the hell you supposed to get a better mobo than this?

red ingot
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sorry

rose eagle
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for $110

red ingot
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tbf i finished my shit

dreamy tinsel
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๐Ÿคฃ

red ingot
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im back on my pc...

dreamy tinsel
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Im kidding

red ingot
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woops

dreamy tinsel
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oh

rose eagle
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is this not the best deal for upgrading a cpu?

red ingot
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i was gonna shower

dreamy tinsel
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I mean you could have brought it with you

red ingot
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OKAY IM LEAVING

rose eagle
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the MSI boards are trash compared to this i thought

red ingot
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BYE

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FOR REAL THIS TIME

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gonna shower and try not to nut

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wish me luck

dreamy tinsel
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Majic!

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Hold him back

rose eagle
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i put clove oil in his body wash

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theres this one too tho

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i think the other has more features

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dont need no SLI

red ingot
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What's clove oil

rigid knoll
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Love oil with a C

languid acorn
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gergens

red ingot
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Gergens?

crude storm
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do we know if the "footstep" problematic is been addressed in the upcoming update?

sonic osprey
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Chag wondered my bfv would not keep running cpu at over 80%, cleaned all fans and elements of dust, lost 10C max temp and now cpu usage 90%+

last crow
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Wew

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That's enough to bring a tear to anyone's eye

rose eagle
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uh is it hitting as thermal throttling?

mortal ether
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what are some of the settings i should turn off for better performance?

sonic osprey
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@rose eagle I would guess as I have it overclocked

mystic drum
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All of them

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Just set everything to low except Mesh Quality

rose eagle
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@mortal ether what vid card? you got 8gb vram?

trim ibex
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@mortal ether Render future frames ON, post process medium at the very least those two make a big difference

rose eagle
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this is all you need to know

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post and lighting are really the only 2 impactful things

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unless you dont have enough vram

mystic drum
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The game barely looks different on low and ultra

rose eagle
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sure but 3% isnt worth it for weird flat terrain ๐Ÿ˜‰

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lighting and post are like 25%

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combined perf loss

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you can be at a disadvantage if you dont render the world properly with mesh and terrain

mystic drum
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Playing multiplayer games on the highest settings put you at a disadvantage anyway

rose eagle
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terrain is <1% perf impact so no sense playing on low

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if it could render it wrong

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hiding someone when it wouldnt have normally

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lower poly, not sure the specifics but i play with optimal "competitive" settings

trim ibex
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post process on low actually removes lots of the smoke effects

mystic drum
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Yeah, I'm sure this game is the exception

trim ibex
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makes the game look better for me

rose eagle
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yeap..

mystic drum
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Nope

trim ibex
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you disagree?

mystic drum
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With Majic

rose eagle
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mesh on ultra better defines objects like fences or trees but some people claim it doesnt render stuff at all at distance almost like a wall hack

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i leave this on ultra

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i dont want to see a tree i cant shoot through due to low poly mesh

rigid knoll
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Does anyone else think that 1x zoom level is misleading, if it's 1x factor, it shouldn't change the zoom level at all

mystic drum
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I literally just said "everything on low except mesh quality."

rose eagle
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im not disagreeing

trim ibex
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no its not misleading, it means a zoom factor of one

rose eagle
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if you're lookin for an argument there wont be one ๐Ÿ˜„

rigid knoll
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Multiply your default zoom level by one...

trim ibex
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no zoom factor means zoom by a fixed scale factor

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so 1x means zoom by said fix scale 1 to 1

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2x doesnt mean magnify your current view by 2

mortal ether
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thanks for the help everybody!

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I have made a few changes

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what about the options on the basic video settings like film grain and lens distortion?

rigid knoll
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@trim ibex yea that's how it appears to be. In BF1 I think 1x zoom ment no-zoom? Maybe it was presented differently, can't recall

trim ibex
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I dont remember BF1 zoom tbh

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I did like how you can change iron sight zoom though

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@mortal ether , turn it all off

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doesnt hurt performance or anything, just makes it look nasty

rigid knoll
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Yeah, I barely had any zoom in use in BF1. This default minimum zoom is quite bothering. Feels like I lose my target instantly when I ads

narrow fable
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Then practice till you dont lose it xd

rigid knoll
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Yeah, just saying. Btw do you think it's correct that the iron sights 1x on MP34 zoom twice as much as the reflex sight 1x?

narrow fable
mortal ether
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@trim ibex ty!

narrow fable
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I think it's up to the devs xd

rigid knoll
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That's smart thinking man

hushed geyser
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whos intrested in a makro for sliding in bf5

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and has makro experience

rose eagle
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i will never promote such blasphemy

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im not sure ive yet to see anyone slide

mystic drum
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My keyboard software has macros, but I never messed with it

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I never use CTRL for crouching anyway, so I could change it to that

trim ibex
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I been thinking about Macro from slides

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might try that after work, seems like it would be fun

hushed geyser
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i got it guys

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its working perfectly now

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im jizzing off right now

rose eagle
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Does it violate the ToS?

hushed geyser
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im just sliding

rose eagle
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I mean, the fact remains.. pixels moving on the screen are dead regardless ๐Ÿ˜

red ingot
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u look like you're playing on a toaster

rose eagle
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You get me that fraps log yet? ;)

red ingot
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oh fuck

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i forgot

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im sorry

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:((

rose eagle
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Stupid afterburner won't show in game

red ingot
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U DIDNT REMIND ME

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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now i gotta eat quickly and get going

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mebbe when i get home if i have time cause it'll be late

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worst case i'll do it tomorrow

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i sorry

rose eagle
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I'm expecting identical CPU usage anyway

red ingot
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yeah

rose eagle
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Do you get 100% GPU?

sonic osprey
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@rose eagle did you set the monitor & OSD settings correctly if you dont get afterburner showing?

rose eagle
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Your CPU should bottleneck your GPU also

red ingot
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no

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like 50% GPU

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:/

rose eagle
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May as well crank that post processing

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For sharpness

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And then res scale till you get 90% GPU

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8086k the fastest clocked i7?

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4ghz

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I'm already at 4.3 on my cores on my 3770k

red ingot
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Idk when I turn up my settings tho I get more frame drops

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Its weird

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So I just play on lower cause fuck lag spikes

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On 4.2 on my 4770k Chag

rose eagle
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Indeed.. don't turn up anything that hits CPU

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Res scale shouldn't

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But my God put that poor GPU to use and simulate 2k at least ;)

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You can see what you'd expect

red ingot
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๐Ÿค”

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2k on my 1080p monitor isnt the same tho

rose eagle
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It should look a lot sharper

red ingot
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Hm

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Maybe I try

rose eagle
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But no not true 2k

red ingot
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:(

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4 days till true 2k

rose eagle
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Just less fuzzy

red ingot
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Imma go to my local pc shop tomorrow or wed and ask if they open early for black Friday

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They usually open at 10am aka late af

rose eagle
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You should be able to run low settings, 2k, 125% res scale perhaps

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Just make sure you get 90+ GPU

red ingot
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Cause a) wanna play asap and b) I will cry if I show up late and find out they're sold out

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They have 8 monitors of the one I want in stock

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So 2k is 125% res scale?

trim ibex
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I dont think macros like this are bannable

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besides if its keyboard based, how would they know

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to server you are just pressing crouch twice

rose eagle
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Not sure how it scales, probably more like 175%

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Because it's 2m pixels vs 3.7m

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@trim ibex always best to make the macro use variable time just to be sure ;p

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Can on my k70

red ingot
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Lol

rose eagle
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Not sure any reason I'd ever do it in V

red ingot
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I'm not reaching all the way to my macro keys to slide

rose eagle
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You just make a key the macro lol

sonic osprey
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or you know, you can just press prone while running

trim ibex
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you can marcro to a key

rose eagle
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Fk keyboards with separate macro keys ;D

red ingot
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Get outta here with your logic

storm osprey
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who was it looking for fans?

languid acorn
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me'

storm osprey
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sorry, work got busy

red ingot
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No, those are no good

languid acorn
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That's only one fan though right?

red ingot
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They're not rgb

storm osprey
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yes, it is the price of 1 fan

languid acorn
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damn

red ingot
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Usually cheaper if u buy like a 3 pack or something

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If I remember right u needed a few anyways right

languid acorn
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Yeah

storm osprey
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be careful, not all packs have the same fans

red ingot
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That's retarded

storm osprey
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cougar has their budget fans that they sell as a pack

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you cant get the pwm vortex in a pack last i checked

languid acorn
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That one is still the single fan

storm osprey
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no idea if the noctua redux versions are good

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oh yea, dont expect to get good fans for a cheap price

languid acorn
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shit

red ingot
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I got my corsair ones for $20 each

storm osprey
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MOST computer stuff, you get what you pay for

languid acorn
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True with most stuff

storm osprey
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with fans, youre just gonna have to balance cost to noise to airflow ratio

mystic drum
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Or just wear headphones for the superior audio experience

storm osprey
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?

mystic drum
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Won't notice fans then

rose eagle
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why does lowering res scale to 25% not raise cpu usage or fps?

flint locust
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no rgb, useless

gleaming laurel
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I played the beta on a 960 without lag issues and now it's lag galore

storm osprey
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@languid acorn havent done any research on those corsair fans, so i have no idea

storm osprey
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i mean, if rgb is a priority, idk how their noise to airflow ratio is or the lifetime of those fans

languid acorn
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I don't care about rgb

half comet
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@rose eagle Thats an indicator that your cpu

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@rose eagle isn't handling the game very well

storm osprey
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then i wouldnt get those

languid acorn
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Alright

rose eagle
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@half comet holding out for proof from someone that their cpu isnt pegged and even if my cpu is pegged... i have no proof my 4 cores 8 threads 4.3ghz is any slower really than an 8700k

half comet
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My cpu is usually at like.....40-65% i think last time i checked playing the game

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i have a 7700

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What cpu do you have?

rose eagle
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3770k

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master race

half comet
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@rose eagle Its not as simple as core clocks on cpus. Same thing with Gpus. Its about all the other things. Bus speed. Cache size.

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Newer processors utilize their cores better than older models. Even if they have similiar clock speeds

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Also I think if you can play BF5 fine (It seems like you can) then there is no point in upgrading atm.

rose eagle
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i mean i bought a $550 GPU that wont go past 70% unless i bump it to 125% res scale

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Rotterdam takes a big shit but i think thats engine related

half comet
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which gpui

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1080?

storm osprey
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hes got a 2070

mystic drum
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I'm thinking of buying a new CPU

storm osprey
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wait

mystic drum
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But I also have to buy a new mobo and ram for that reason

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So I'm thinking of switching to AMD

storm osprey
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just wait till numbers come out for amds 7nm cpus

mystic drum
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I don't plan on spending more than $250 on a CPU so I doubt it'll matter

storm osprey
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ikd what their consumer plans are for 7nm, but hopefully at least it will drop prices of other cpus

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i think 7nm consumer is supposed to be announced q1 2019

mystic drum
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Well I'm thinking of getting an Ryzen 5 2600

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Which is already down to $160

storm osprey
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are you streaming or using your pc as a workstation?

mystic drum
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I rarely do some video editing

storm osprey
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are you planning on OC?

mystic drum
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Not if I don't have to

storm osprey
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well if youre only gaming and dont plan to oc

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amd isnt really a good choice

mystic drum
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I do video editing sometimes, and image editing all the time

storm osprey
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ah so you do image editing

mystic drum
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Well I draw

storm osprey
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hmm

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idk if thats cpu intensive or not

prime jasper
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anyone have this weird bloom effect when you go to squad screen and then go to the deploy screen ??

mystic drum
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Sometimes it is

prime jasper
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or when you look outside a window when u are indoors

mystic drum
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Considering I draw at very high resolutions

storm osprey
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id imagine intel or amd will handle that

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imo, if youre going amd and gaming, you gotta OC it

mystic drum
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Yeah, but I'm pretty sure I get less for more with Intel

storm osprey
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theres no reason not to, and without OC 2600 lacks pretty far behind the 8400

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which were within 20 bucks of eachother

mystic drum
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Well I'm overclocking my CPU right now

prime jasper
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where can i ask this question where actually someone could give a sht bout what am i saying #screenshots-and-clips ??

storm osprey
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amd mb are cheaper, but its pretty much needed that you get at least 3000mhz rated ram

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@prime jasper id imagine here is the best place, but i dont own the game so i have no input, sorry

mystic drum
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I can get 3k RAM

storm osprey
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thatd be fine

mystic drum
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I already have to buy half my RAM at upgrade

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Since RAM is so expensive right now

storm osprey
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its actually cheaper than its been

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180$ for 16gb was pretty common

mystic drum
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Sec

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When I last bought ram I got 32GB for $130, so yeah

storm osprey
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well yea, way long ago at the lowest point im sure you did

mystic drum
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Which was two years ago

storm osprey
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ddr3?

mystic drum
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Yeah

storm osprey
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well, there ya go

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ddr4 now

mystic drum
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Cause my MOBO is 8 years old

storm osprey
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ddr4 16gb was commonly 180, its about 130 now

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even still 32gb for 130 is cheap, sale or something?

mystic drum
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I can get 16GB DDR4 3000mhz for $130, a Ryzen 5 2600 for $160, and a MOBO for $140.

storm osprey
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you can spend less on mobo still

mystic drum
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I haven't looked, I just based that off the bundle they tried to sell me with the CPU

storm osprey
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err

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2600 is cheaper than that

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usa?

mystic drum
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Just looking at Newegg

storm osprey
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errr

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it was like 130 the other day

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idk where though

half comet
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@prime jasper does it last forever?

mystic drum
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$30 doesn't matter that much, plus I'm getting all of it together with Newegg Black Friday sales

storm osprey
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yea my friend said he found one for 130

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i mean, 30 bucks here, 20 there, 40 here. thats 90 bucks

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that an 860 evo 500gb with extra for dinner

mystic drum
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I have 7TB of Hard Drive space

half comet
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I'd buy the cheapest ram you can and as much. Hz doesnt mean jack shit in ram

mystic drum
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And 256GB SSD

prime jasper
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@half comet nope

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it also happens when i ads with a 3x scope

storm osprey
half comet
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Its eye adaptation

prime jasper
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which makes it very hard to see

storm osprey
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@half comet ram speed means a lot for ryzen cpus

prime jasper
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uh...

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and how do i turn that off

half comet
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No it doesnt.

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You cant mejo

prime jasper
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wut

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how am i able to snipe rn

mystic drum
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The problem is that I'm using my Newegg credit as well.

prime jasper
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can barely see someone's head

half comet
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@storm osprey There is almsot no difference between ram speeds.

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When talking about fps or game performance

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1-2 fps at most. neglible

storm osprey
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yea im looking at video right now showing a 15-20 fps difference

half comet
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No. Not possible.

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Dude....a gpu or cpu OC wont get you those

storm osprey
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ehh, 10-15

half comet
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No

storm osprey
prime jasper
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@half comet so no way to edit this ? and why someone people dont have that when they ads with a sniper

mystic drum
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Depending on how much FPS you're getting, 10-15 doesn't matter

storm osprey
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10 fps difference according to this video seems common

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a couple of games dont change much

half comet
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I can show you 10 vids that do extensive research showing that its negligable

storm osprey
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do it

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ive at least brought 1 video that shows theres a difference

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happened to be the first video i clicked on

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@mystic drum personally i would care if the price difference for more fps is only a few bucks

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there wouldnt be a reason to not get it

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and same the other way, if i could save 20-30 bucks and its only 5-10 more fps, is that really worth it?

prime jasper
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since yall talking about rams

mystic drum
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Well I mean, the difference between the fastest RAM and slowest is massive

storm osprey
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but is it worth it?

prime jasper
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i have a r5 1600 using a 16x1 2133MHZ ram ..........if i get a dual channel 2x8 3000MHz ram how much of fps boost will i get

storm osprey
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i dont have numbers, but i would think just going dual channel would help, let alone a boost in speed would help even further

prime jasper
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i already bought it but didnt receive it yet

half comet
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Yea im not gunna link 10 vids here, Just go to youtbe, linus tech tips has one, along with other major youtube testers

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I watch and majority of them tested and stated minimal improvements

prime jasper
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cuz i have seen a video where someone gets hardely under 60 fps on ultra with dual channel

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and i my fps drops under 60 on lowest settings

half comet
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Much better to take your savings from cheaper ram and put it into CPu/gpu

storm osprey
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paul hardware shows theres a difference

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2 games the same, 1 game roughly 10 fps more

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its probably more game dependant than a general rule

prime jasper
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@half comet also there is no fix for this effect? i can barely see anyone while ads with a sniper

half comet
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ok. its like this. been PC gaming for 10 years, built all my systems, I OC'ed. My own anecdotal experience. Ram is negligible. More is better not faster. Plenty of other source match with this. Maybe one game did get 5-10 fps more but thats an exception. Most game dont give a shit

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I've had 1666 mhz/2400 mhz/3200mhz you dont get what you pay for

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@prime jasper not sure dude

storm osprey
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you had those speeds for amd?

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because intel usually doesnt give a shit

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and the vidoe i showed had move than 1 game

half comet
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No i havent with amd. doubt its any different. The vids i watched used ryzen as well

storm osprey
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yea, that linus video shows exactly what im talking about

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apparently in dx12 it makes an even bigger difference

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each game he showed had roughly a 10 fps difference for the 1700x between 2133 and 3200 ram

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yea, this is looking like a pretty strong case for amd and ram speeds

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of course theres more to the story than "just buy fast ram, you need it"

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its generally a very minor difference to not get 3200 ram and have a peace of mind

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gist, low end system, ram speed doesnt matter, you gpu/cpu bound anyway, higher end systems, ram speed matters on AMD

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yea cost difference between recommended 2400 and 3200 from pcpartpicker is about 10 bucks...

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@half comet

rose eagle
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the biggest thing id love to see is a 1% low with FRAPS/FRAFS of someone with a newer CPU + 1080

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even 1080Ti is fine

dreamy tinsel
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Bombing is actually pretty fun, except the massive maps where its hard to find their infantry ๐Ÿค”

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Probably just me sucking

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Wrong channel

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sry

split storm
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My ram is still Ddr3

storm osprey
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same

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4790

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non k

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i game at 1440p so im gpu bound

rose eagle
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or so we thought!

storm osprey
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ehh, i know my 4790 is on its last legs

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i got it at i5 price so im happy with it lasting this long

rose eagle
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i mean non K means nothing right? just OC

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4790 seems to get same exact rating as 3770k

molten bramble
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@split storm Mine is DDR2 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ LOL

storm osprey
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yea non k means i cant oc

split storm
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mine is an 4770

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not k either

rose eagle
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i mean i already spent $630 on this game lol

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550 + deluxe

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why not make it like $1300+!

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EA should get kickbacks from Intel, AMD, and Nvidia

storm osprey
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hmmm

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no they wouldnt optimize their games in that case xD

rose eagle
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they already dont, thats why we require hardware that shouldnt be needed ๐Ÿ˜„

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they get paid to release half ass optimized and force us to all upgrade

pallid silo
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I7 6700 and GTX 1070 why does my cpu usage be at 90 percent that's so high on BF5

storm osprey
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1080p?

pallid silo
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Ye

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144hz

rose eagle
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i feel like BFV isnt supposed to run above 100fps ๐Ÿ˜„

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or it eats the fk outta any CPU alive

pallid silo
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True XD I get 120ish lel

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Getting a 1080ti tomorrow

rose eagle
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that prob wont raise your FPS

storm osprey
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1080p is highly cpu intensive, especially with bfv

rose eagle
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you'll be at 50% gpu

pallid silo
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Ah nah for other games too! :) I don't only play BF5 XD

storm osprey
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at 1080p youre more cpu bound

pallid silo
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True

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....

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If I get a 4k display will I get lower cpu usage

storm osprey
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yes

pallid silo
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Sickkk

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Also you reckon DICE will fix the bad 1080p cpu usage shit

storm osprey
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i play at 2k (1440p) and my 4790 is still within 10 fps of modern computers

pallid silo
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Ahh!! Nice what gpu

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Does 1440p look good?

storm osprey
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if i played at 1080p that wouldnt be the case

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gtx 1080

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1440p is awesome

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no AA or low AA

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27"

pallid silo
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Nice!! :)) how much did you pay for bf5

storm osprey
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at 24" 1440p its basically perfect

pallid silo
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True!! XD

storm osprey
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no pixels at all

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i dont own bfv

pallid silo
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Oh... xd

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How have you played it before then

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I paid 33 pounds for preordrr

storm osprey
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i playd bfv beta for 22 hours

lofty light
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The main game was much less optimised FeelsDefenceMan

storm osprey
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so i hear sadly

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hopefully its all fixed when i get the game

rose eagle
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interesting test.. same FPS full screen 1080p as 1440p

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CPU def eatin shit

storm osprey
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sounds like a reason to get a 9900k

rose eagle
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9700k > *

storm osprey
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nah

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do it for the memes

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you dont ever want to cpu bottleneck ever again

rose eagle
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srsly tho $ being a thing and futureproofing

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i dont see why ppl shat on no HT

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is fkin 8 cores brah

#

6c12t

tidal agate
#

Ready for that sexy RTX 2080 Ti FE action.

#

20 deaths from just staring at the enviroment.

narrow fable
#

RTX off

#

2080ti

#

RTX on

#

1060

rose eagle
#

Rtx on 720p

narrow fable
#

90fps

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At best

rose eagle
#

My 2070 scores a solid 30fps 1440

narrow fable
#

All ultra settings?

tidal agate
#

I'm running a 8700 32gb ram with it so we shall see how rough it is.

narrow fable
#

@rose eagle

#

All ultra?

rose eagle
#

Post low, no hbao and lighting low

#

Is post supposed to enhance visibility?

#

Sharpness

narrow fable
#

Sharpness

#

A little

#

But like

rose eagle
#

At 15% cost

narrow fable
#

There's no point in having RTX unless you're playing on ultra detail

rose eagle
#

Post setting

narrow fable
#

Ah

#

I got my cpu usage btw

#

Do you want it with/without an oc?

rose eagle
#

The most important thing is FPS and CPU usage at that time

narrow fable
#

Well

#

I stuck at 144

rose eagle
#

Any is fine

narrow fable
#

The whole time

rose eagle
#

That'd fine

narrow fable
#

And cpu usage was about 50-60%

rose eagle
#

What CPU again?

narrow fable
#

Without overclocks

rose eagle
#

I dropped my res to 1080p and got no framerate gain

narrow fable
#

And with a 5.3 it managed 45-58%

rose eagle
#

8700k?

narrow fable
#

Yep

#

I got me a lucky chip

rose eagle
#

How'd you measure fps

narrow fable
#

I have nvidia's fps counter up in the corner of my screen xd

rose eagle
#

There's no low 1% track for that is there?

narrow fable
#

Didn't even change from 144 tho

rose eagle
#

Seems crazy for frostbite lol

narrow fable
#

There's actually no microstuttering with bfv

#

Which I think is insane

#

Considering the detail and amount of action

rose eagle
#

Yeah I mean I don't get any of that but my low 1% is the only concern

#

You'd need to run afterburner to watch for that though

#

Or fraps record a 60s session

#

It has a logger, not screen recording

#

this is a bit surprising for 6c6t vs 6c12t

onyx granite
#

i need new cpu

rose eagle
#

i wish 8c8t and 8c16t was on here

#

bastards

#

does anyone trust "Testing Games" Youtube?

narrow fable
#

You see

#

I'm doubting that rn

#

Cuz I haven't seen the clock speeds

rose eagle
#

same CPU usage.. cant see how it's that much more optimized

#

2600k vs 9700k

narrow fable
#

And wtf?

#

100fps?

#

On a 2080ti?

rose eagle
#

on what?

narrow fable
#

That's absolute bs

rose eagle
#

what you referring to lol

narrow fable
#

My 1080ti gets 144fps+

rose eagle
#

what are you talkin boot mang!!!

#

lol

narrow fable
rose eagle
#

what benchmark or comment you referring to

#

geebs!

narrow fable
#

The first wan

rose eagle
narrow fable
rose eagle
#

8700k vs 9700k ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

unkempt tapir
#

Why am I getting couldnโ€™t save emblem errors?

narrow fable
#

Where's the graphs?

unkempt tapir
#

Need some help here.

narrow fable
#

They seem to be jumping between eachother

rose eagle
#

this is a toss up.. sometimes 9700k is stomping it but when extra threaded ops kick in it gets punched prob

#

thought the 2 cores could hang in there even if HT was being used

#

threaded ops being sent off to the extra 2 cores but i guess the optimization really does matter sometimes for queuing instructions

narrow fable
#

@rose eagle

#

This explains it well

#

I was right

#

The hyperthreading offsets having 2 less cores perfectly

bleak minnow
#

Does anyone here know that was the earlier consensus that ryzen cpus rely heavily on ram speed true or not? It seemed like there was back and forth debate about it at some point but now that i got a ryzen i don't remember. Anyone know about it?

steep gust
#

Okay

#

So Rzyen uses multiple dies to get high core count, this is connected together by the infinity fabric.

The infinity fabric runs at half the speed of your RAM, so RAM speed is huge on Rzyen

rose eagle
#

@narrow fable the video i linked shows the 9700k with some nice commanding leads in some scenarios though

steep gust
#

Anyone who says it isn't is well talking out of their ass

rose eagle
#

average FPS is pretty much on par

#

just not shown in a simple quick bench

narrow fable
#

In some scenarios

#

Sure

rose eagle
#

im most interested in the "some scenarios" ;P

narrow fable
#

But the 8700k also monsters it in some scenarios

rose eagle
#

like high intense situations

narrow fable
bleak minnow
#

Oh ok. Thanks @steep gust for the advice

narrow fable
#

@bleak minnow

#

Get the better ram

steep gust
#

RAM speed > timings up to around 3200mhz for Rzyen

#

So just buy a CL16 3200mhz kit

narrow fable
#

With Ryzen having 3600mhz vs 2400mhz can actually make a 7-10fps difference

steep gust
#

haha

bleak minnow
#

i've got some ok ddr4 16gb 3200 mhz. just haven't installed those speeds yet, they're stock 2133 just now

steep gust
#

Good luck with 3600mhz on Rzyen

#

Unless you are rocking a C7H or some other beefy motherboard

narrow fable
#

I think I've seen people with 4800mhz on ryzen

#

Dont quote me on that

steep gust
#

Hard doubt

#

or it won't survive a load, it might past a memory test

bleak minnow
#

Those factory timings weren't stable for me so have to start tweaking and stress testing stuff

rose eagle
#

wtf is up with this fortnite 1440p bench lol

#

shows 8700k min fps 152 with 9700k 140 and 9900k 141

#

how does that make any sense

steep gust
#

It doesn't and you shouldn't be using that site then

#

Also Fortnite doesn't have a way to bench it

rose eagle
#

does assasins creed odyssey?

narrow fable
#

Yep

#

Ignore games without purpose made benchmarking scenarios

steep gust
#

For games without benchmarks the minimum fps and 99% are important

#

not average

narrow fable
#

All the games with real benchmarks show similar results between the 9700k and 8700k with a 1-2 fps difference

rose eagle
#

yea all i care about is 1% low

#

newegg has 8700k for $340 atm

#

doubt we will see any major black friday deals

narrow fable
#

8700k=350 dolla

#

9700k=500 dolla

#

1 frame difference between em

rose eagle
#

9700k is $410 lol

narrow fable
#

Which one would any normal person get? xd

#

Wat

rose eagle
#

20% more cost

narrow fable
#

Escuhyuse me

#

Where's that 410dolla

steep gust
#

You can find a 9900k for around $570

rose eagle
#

inflated atm

steep gust
#

Also that is MSRP for a tray

#

So 1,000

rose eagle
#

fk that toaster ๐Ÿ˜„

#

9700k appears to cook also

steep gust
#

9900k is fine when not overclocked

#

Yeah same die size

narrow fable
#

that 410 9700k

#

Is that in stock?

steep gust
#

Yes?

rose eagle
#

yar

#

they just got more in

steep gust
#

Newegg wouldn't show it if it wasn't

rose eagle
#

so ddi BH photo

steep gust
#

nah it sold out

#

It was recently in stock

rose eagle
#

says order now, shp tomorrow..

#

when did you last check?

steep gust
#

$421

#

I checked right now

#

Its out of stock

rose eagle
#

i just sent a link for the newegg one...

steep gust
#

On newegg it be sold out

#

๐Ÿคฆ

rose eagle
#

thats not what my link shows wtf is this?

#

lol

steep gust
#

Click on it

#

and look at the buy button

rose eagle
#

i mean i DID a min ago

#

why does clicking YOUR link now perma break mine?

#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

it said $410 CLICKED and add to cart, shipped and sold by newegg

#

i click your shit and now it doesnt anymore ever again

#

fkin witchcraft

steep gust
#

well I can't add pictures to show its out of stock

steep gust
#

B&H means no sales tax for me

rose eagle
#

yea me too and newegg

#

$80 is kinda important though

#

picking a motherboard is the hardest part

#

at least now i know i can wait til Saturday to see if any more CPU deals crop up

#

since this ASRock runs til then

#

seems 100% irrelevant, i dont care about ease of use in bios

#

or RGB

#

or onboard wifi, literally any board seems viable

steep gust
#

eh

#

VRMs are important

narrow fable
#

My motherboard has atleast sixty eight vrms

#

Swear

rose eagle
#

my motherboard's transistors are 34.43% more faster than yours

#

i mean we're talkin crap boards from unknowns are out of the question

narrow fable
#

My pc has a racing strype

#

It has 2.34 more cores than your cpu

rose eagle
#

but say... ASRock Extreme4 for $110 right now vs Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 $210 vs the $300 Asus

#

nothing perf wise should be different enough to warrant one over the other

narrow fable
#

Asus z370

#

E

#

perfect

#

Also what's this about the z390 chipset having integrated wifi?

#

Excuse me

#

My mobo has integrated wifi

#

My Asus z370-E xd

rose eagle
#

aint payin no fkin $300

#

in fact the only consideration to upgrading is if its all crazy on sale ๐Ÿ˜„

narrow fable
#

I bought mine for 150 euros xd

rose eagle
#

Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING?

narrow fable
#

Yep

rose eagle
#

what in the fkin hell?

#

oh i guess its out of stock everywhere

#

its a $200 board heh

unborn epoch
#

poo

steep gust
#

its out of production

narrow fable
#

Same as my gpu

#

I can still sell my gpu for more than i paid for it

dreamy tinsel
#

Or you could give it to me Kappa

narrow fable
#

I could

#

But

#

I wont

dreamy tinsel
narrow fable
#

Become a furry

#

Join us

dreamy tinsel
#

ermmm

narrow fable
#

Then you might

#

Get an ez pz 1080 ti

dreamy tinsel
#

That is something that I cant

#

hmmm, would it run sli with the one I already have?

#

hehe

steep gust
#

ye

#

doesn't have to be identical models

narrow fable
#

Would it fit is more of the issue here tbh

dreamy tinsel
#

Fit?

steep gust
#

buy a 3 slot SLI bridge?

dreamy tinsel
#

Is it bigger than usual GPUs?

#

Also, why do you no longer need your 1080TI lol

steep gust
#

it would have to be like 4 slots to not work with SLI

narrow fable
#

It's a full on footlong

#

Barely fits in my case as it is

dreamy tinsel
#

Send it to me so I can see if it fits in mine maybe? Kappa

narrow fable
#

U promise to send it back?

dreamy tinsel
#

Yes

#

Might be a couple years, but i will

narrow fable
#

Show me pics of your fursuit first

#

Tru furry

dreamy tinsel
#

lol

#

I wish man

steep gust
#

my GPU is like 11.5"

narrow fable
#

Mine is 12"

steep gust
#

I can round

narrow fable
#

And my gpu is 12.5"

#

๐Ÿ†

dreamy tinsel
#

ya crazy

#

imma get outta here, its late and you are scaring me ๐Ÿ˜‰

narrow fable
#

Cya bb

#

Call me l8r

#

โค

dreamy tinsel
narrow fable
rose eagle
#

@unborn epoch you got the damn game?

unborn epoch
#

what game

rose eagle
#

We were supposed to run a same game fps test

unborn epoch
#

shitturdfield 5?

rose eagle
#

Pfff runs fine for me!

unborn epoch
#

yes I do, i've had the game since november 8th

rose eagle
#

Getting in a squad and just observing a teammate would be a great test

#

What's your CPU again?

unborn epoch
#

7700k

narrow fable
#

What ocs you getting with it?

rose eagle
#

I don't know why I didn't think to before but crazy I didn't get more fps at 1080p

#

This damn engine really fks your CPU lol

narrow fable
#

just buy a knightslanding chip

#

ez pz

rose eagle
#

Max fps on a 4c8t CPU 120 woahthink

unborn epoch
#

running it at 5ghz

#

i run multiplayer at 164fps steady

#

rarely any drops

rose eagle
#

Frafs plz

#

;)

narrow fable
#

xeon phi could get you some serious fps

unborn epoch
#

whenever i feel like playing that piece of shit game, sure

narrow fable
#

64 cores

#

128 threads

#

1.7ghz turbo speeds

#

Whew

unborn epoch
#

ya

#

(no)

rose eagle
#

Lol why don't you like V

unborn epoch
#

riddled with bugs, riddled with flawed core design choices

#

riddled with shitforbrains

#

my 3 friends already quit the game, so I have no steady squad to play with any longer

chrome jewel
#

So who here has RTX?

unborn epoch
#

playing with randos from this discord is no fun

#

i have 164fps, so not me

chrome jewel
#

Touche~

rose eagle
#

Aww sad panda I enjoy it

#

More than 1 anyway

unborn epoch
#

i wont be buying the game after premiere runs out

#

i might give it a try in 6 months to a year

mystic drum
#

I don't think I understand overclocking

narrow fable
#

What don't you understand?

#

xd

mystic drum
#

Why I can't overlock more than I have

chrome jewel
#

Silicon lottery?

narrow fable
#

I fooking WON dat shit

mystic drum
#

I'm on a i5 2500k and anything over 4.3Ghz is unstable and crashes

narrow fable
#

That's an old chip

#

And i'm guessing an old mobo

chrome jewel
#

I'm not sure how common getting over 4.3Ghz on that chip actually is

narrow fable
#

Na

chrome jewel
#

You can only overclock anything so far, there's a limit to the potential gains, silicon lottery or not

mystic drum
#

I don't know, I read 4.7 should be easy with watercooling

narrow fable
#

4.3 is still 1ghz over the base clock tho

mystic drum
#

It's clearly not enough

narrow fable
#

I mean

chrome jewel
#

Don't think there's a fix for that, it's just not good enough hardware

narrow fable
#

Na

#

Those early gens had a lot of OC headroom

#

Atleast .7ghz per chip

#

I've seen a load of 2600k chips hit 5.1

chrome jewel
#

Again, if you've tried it and it's unstable, then ultimately you're not going to get above that

mystic drum
#

I had it at 4.7Ghz and it was running at 58C

narrow fable
#

Under load?

#

And what voltage?

chrome jewel
#

Power supply quality and mobo can also effect how well something overclocks based on voltage variability

mystic drum
#

1.380V

narrow fable
#

O no

#

Dud

#

You shouldnt be going over 1.32 on those chips

#

Poor cpu

mystic drum
#

Tom's Hardware says 1.5

narrow fable
#

That's like

mystic drum
#

Another says 1.4

chrome jewel
#

I think Alpha is trolling you at this point

narrow fable
#

An 8700k is safe up to 1.5

mystic drum
#

Regardless at default voltage it didn't even make it to desktop

narrow fable
#

Those early chips aint up to higher voltages xd

#

Burns em out real quik

mystic drum
#

Well I'm about to replace this CPU so big woops

narrow fable
#

I dare you to pump that thing up to 1.5 just to see what happens

mystic drum
#

What all would that risk?

chrome jewel
#

Just google it

mystic drum
#

Cause I'm replacing the MOBO and RAM too

chrome jewel
#

I'm not sure why you're consulting tech on the BFV discord when people here obviously are talking out their ass

narrow fable
#

The cpu is like a wire

#

Pump too much voltage through it and it burns out

mystic drum
#

Because Subreddits for this stuff are full of assholes

narrow fable
#

@chrome jewel

chrome jewel
#

I'm right here, you don't have to @ me

narrow fable
#

ik xd

rose eagle
#

@narrow fable

narrow fable
#

โค

#

I've been called~?

rose eagle
#

@rose eagle

chrome jewel
#

Well the discord for this stuff is also full of assholes

narrow fable
#

Are you suggesting i'm an asshole?

rose eagle
#

I have summoned myself!!!

chrome jewel
#

So again, totally just google a decent article about it rather than consulting anonymous people and trusting them

rose eagle
#

All bow before the mighty Panda!

chrome jewel
#

You're not particularly helpful, no

narrow fable
#

I mean like xd

rose eagle
#

I'm 100% trustworthy

#

Ask away

mystic drum
#

Maybe I should get a new case as well

chrome jewel
#

Korey, ultimately there's probably not a lot you can do, if that's the limit of the chip then that's the chip's limit =/

narrow fable
#

You're disregarding what information i'm giving without a solution to his question yourself

chrome jewel
#

Sure but a new case won't effect performance

mystic drum
#

I know

chrome jewel
#

Disinformation is worse than admitting not knowing everything

mystic drum
#

But my case is gigantic and ugly

narrow fable
#

But i know how to blow up a cpu?

chrome jewel
#

What PC case isn't? Hahahah

narrow fable
#

Mine? xd

mystic drum
#

The simple ones

narrow fable
#

NZXT s340 elite is lit

chrome jewel
#

I'd probably just spend the extra money on something useful for your gaming experience, but it's up to you!

mystic drum
#

Well I don't have a lot extra in the upgrade budget

#

And literally the only thing holding back my PC is the CPU

chrome jewel
#

Something like the case should go last then, even periphery stuff like a better keyboard or mouse would be more important to your experience

mystic drum
#

I have a new keyboard and mouse

#

two months old

narrow fable
#

What cpu are you upgrading to? xd

chrome jewel
#

You could always just try to buy a decent CPU from Ebay and wait to fully upgrade your PC?

mystic drum
#

Ryzen 5 2600

rose eagle
#

Look up your cpu and its rated voltage and keep pushing it to you reach said voltage and occu burn test doesn't crash your crap wesmart

chrome jewel
#

He already stated he tried it and it wasn't stable above that

rose eagle
#

Then that's it

chrome jewel
#

Yep

narrow fable
#

Hmmmm...

chrome jewel
#

Honestly you've done the only test that matters Korey, that's just the limit of your chip

rose eagle
#

My 3770k is 1.27v stable 4.3

mystic drum
#

Yeah I got it, I've moved on lol

narrow fable
#

Atta boy

rose eagle
#

Crashed at 4.5 so I backed it off 200mhz to ensure complete stability

narrow fable
#

@rose eagle

#

Pump 2v thru that bish

rose eagle
#

Don't overvolt, don't push temps, just get out of er what is easy

#

Enjoy your optimized CPU for years :p

#

I mean you could get a crap luck one that won't oc at all

mystic drum
#

Well my CPU is 8 years old, so I'm certain it needs replacing

rose eagle
#

Indeed

#

For bfv at least lol

chrome jewel
#

Online games always push the CPU more than offline ones

narrow fable
#

What are you going to do with that cpu?

#

xd

mystic drum
#

Yeah, BFV is the whole reason I realized I need a new CPU

unborn epoch
#

drill a hole in cpu and make a keychain

#

i did

narrow fable
#

^

#

Same

unborn epoch
#

i have a fancy 4770K keychain

mystic drum
#

Pfft, I don't have keys

unborn epoch
#

(it died, don't freak out)

narrow fable
#

I got me my old Intel Core Duo

#

my trusty wan

rose eagle
#

I'm expecting to get $300 outta my existing rig

unborn epoch
#

i have my very first GPU as keychain as well

rose eagle
#

3770k can still score $150 used

unborn epoch
#

prepare your anusses kids

#

Riva TNT2

narrow fable
#

What's a prepare?

mystic drum
#

Also the front fan on my CASE died

rose eagle
#

Fk u son my first GPU upgrade was a matrox mystique 4mb

unborn epoch
#

ya ur 600 years old

narrow fable
#

I'm building old pcs now just for the fun of it omegalul

rose eagle
#

TNT lmao I remember those

unborn epoch
#

i was so happy with that machine

#

it was my first own machine

chrome jewel
#

matrox mystique 4mb

narrow fable
#

Got me a RIVA 128 xd

chrome jewel
#

Just googled it

unborn epoch
#

iirc it had a P2 something something mhz in it

chrome jewel
#

It's the same age as me hahah

rose eagle
#

3dfx Voodoo baby

#

RIP 3DFX

unborn epoch
#

ya rip ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

mystic drum
#

How can I tell a fans size?

unborn epoch
#

i had a voodoo 2 as well

chrome jewel
#

What's the next graphics gimmick after ray tracing?

narrow fable
#

Perfect card to run wandows 98 on

unborn epoch
#

measure diagonally

#

its either 8cm 12cm 14cm 20cm or 22cm

rose eagle
#

Ray tracing will work in 10 years

unborn epoch
#

most likely 12cm

narrow fable
#

120mm you mean

unborn epoch
#

raytracing is a gimmick but it's a precursor for pathtracing

narrow fable
#

It could also be 140~

unborn epoch
#

which will revolutionize graphics

chrome jewel
#

Someone watched the same video I did

unborn epoch
#

path tracing is as important as 3d models

mystic drum
#

It's a 230mm fan

rose eagle
#

Lol

unborn epoch
#

what kind of custom ass lidl fan is that

chrome jewel
mystic drum
#

They don't even sell my case anymore

rose eagle
#

You fkin srs?

#

Is like a warehouse fan

unborn epoch
#

you knob

#

did you measure 2 fans diagonally?

narrow fable
#

Drive bays

mystic drum
#

Go down to specifications

#

It says 230x30mm Front Fan

unborn epoch
#

what, where

mystic drum
#

Very bottom

rose eagle
#

Wow wtf 200mm top

#

Lol such fan much amaze

chrome jewel
#

Hey who wants to be a beta tester?

unborn epoch
#

ya not me, im already playing shitturdfield5

narrow fable
#

My old case had a 240mm in the front

rose eagle
#

This discord needs a doge emoticon bad

narrow fable
#

Literally the only intake

#

No doge for normies

chrome jewel
#

Only an idiot would pay for Nitro

unborn epoch
#

if I had turbo i'd ahve so many ridiculous emoticons

mystic drum
#

And yes, I need those drive bays

unborn epoch
#

oh it's nitro

#

whatuneed nitro for

narrow fable
#

I havea fair few nsfw wans tbh

unborn epoch
#

you still copy music cds or something

rose eagle
#

Or someone who is single

chrome jewel
#

Also known as the best gun in Showdown

narrow fable
unborn epoch
#

napster is dead son

mystic drum
#

I have 4 drives

rose eagle
#

Bear share!

unborn epoch
#

i started with napster, ended up in fxp scene and used usenet to leech

mystic drum
#

I used Ares a lot

unborn epoch
#

bear share and kazaa and shit like that ended up with all sorts of sexy ladies forced on your screen

#

at least, that's what I understood from it

mystic drum
#

Innocent young me downloading a 23MB "song"

unborn epoch
#

Bon Jovi - It's my life.mp3.exe etc

chrome jewel
#

Who wants to join the RDR2 bitter PC gamer club?

unborn epoch
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i'd pay to see rdr2 on pc

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not going to buy a console for cowboy horseballsack simulator

mystic drum
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As if I care about that boring ass game

chrome jewel
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We'd all pay to play RDR2 on PC..

unborn epoch
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rdr2 is good to stroll around in

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like gta5, great to just toy around

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i wonder if I can kill hookers after i fucked them on my horse

chrome jewel
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Between Last of Us 2 and RDR2 I'm incredibly tempted to buy a PS4, and then I remember Steam sales and I don't

unborn epoch
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steam sales, i haven't been excited for that for 6 years

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i've played everything, seen everything and newer titles aren't that great

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sometimes a gem appears, and are instant buy (like doom in 2016)

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eternal is probably going to be an instant buy as well

chrome jewel
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Yeah I've kind of found myself in the same position, half the games I've tried I hated

mystic drum
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What about killing hookers after they fucked your horse?

chrome jewel
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Metro, Doom Eternal, Atomic Heart, are mostly the ones on my to-get list