technology

[prime jasper]

Defender catches a lot of stuff, but sadly it also has a ton of false positives

If you mean Bitdefender

Yes, but you can easily whitelist those.. No probs

It gets really pissy if you install a new program it doesn't recognize

Or new drivers that aren't common

Windows Defender + Malwarebytes = All I need, & never any false positives

Today some people told me they have a lot of problems with Windows due to anti-viruses

Malwarebytes is fine for a scan every now and then yes

Though it's not for all types of viruses. I just use: my brain, Unchecky, uBlock Origin, Defender, VMs for trying shit..

Those 2 work for me, because I'm not an idiot who clicks "accept" on ever install page, or who falls for false browser extensions, fishy files, or links idk in general

Yeah same, I use uBlock along with another ad blocker (yes, 2), & sometimes Sandboxie/VMs

It hurts me, every time I see someone doing those things, or falling for Indian tech support scams (or other scams), or people who don't know about technology in general

I know right. Pretty weird also that this channel only gets used for damn hardware...

Not even IT-pro or smartphone stuff. What is this..

[unborn epoch]

I want the Samsung s10 for new diablo game

Sending text is so fun guys

I can snapchat and Instagram at the same time

[prime jasper]

Ew, Samsung

[unborn epoch]

Stop hating

[prime jasper]

No u

[unborn epoch]

S8 and beyond look great

[prime jasper]

Lol, looks over performance? Nah

[lofty light]

New Diablo game

[unborn epoch]

What's wrong with the performance?

Tbh I don't give a shit about gaming performance on a phone

It's the most retarded thing in the last 10 years

[prime jasper]

Not gaming performance. Smoothness

Saw a lot of cases where S8's got significantly slower after 1 year

[unborn epoch]

Lots of idiots then

I've had mine since release. It's still as smooth as the day I got it out of the box. Battery isn't degraded either

[prime jasper]

If I were a millionaire, I wouldn't still buy a Slugsung

Still, I can easily buy Samsung phones, but I don't like it.

[unborn epoch]

What phone you got

Wait I just read your name

I assume some kind of one plus phone

Never talk to me or my Samsung phone ever again

[prime jasper]

I got a 3. Before that, a 2

Only Samsung fanboys can say stuff like that btw

Fun fact: admin of this Discord has a OnePlus 6

[unborn epoch]

Who cares bro phones are boring tech

Only reason I got this thing because it was cheap

[prime jasper]

High-end Samsungs and cheap doesn't match

🤷

[unborn epoch]

My $250 receipt tells me differently

Which is around the maximum I'm willing to pay for a mobile texting machine

[prime jasper]

[unborn epoch]

The only gripe I have with this thing is the camera focus gets stuck sometimes so you have to bang it against something

Yolo

[storm osprey]

GF just got the new iphone. Cost 1k... That's a good mid-range PC..

[ocean valve]

now you can play the brand new diablo

[rose eagle]

I assume since it's just a GF you can't negotiate computer upgrades

I'll never buy phones unless they're a BOGO

[rose eagle]

is pc3000 still the go to?

looks like 9700k targets 2666 but i thought i saw something at 3200

[odd goblet]

Anyone use Bias Lighting?

[unique yew]

Alright so... I have a Nvidia 1060 3GB gtx. 8GB of ram. And i still get low fps and high ping. It’s only in BF1 thought. When i start it in the nvidia launcher with the optimize option. I can play 2 to 3 games without lag and with over 60fps. If anyone can please help me out. I don’t wanna start playing bfv when it comes out knowing that my pc is capable of playing it fine but there’s a dumb issue making it impossible.

Dm me if you can help me. All help is appreciated. Thanks anyways for taking your time

[prime jasper]

high ping will be internet problems

[unique yew]

@prime jasper i play Destiny 2, Far cry 5, Rust, Rainbow. All run fine. Over 60fps with no ping

Only happens on bf1

[lofty light]

What's your CPU?

[prime jasper]

it might be the high player counts

[lofty light]

Also make sure you're connecting to the right servers

[prime jasper]

yeah

[lofty light]

It sounds like you may be going to another region

[unique yew]

I5 7th gen 7499

[prime jasper]

ive seen people constantly connecting to red bar servers for no reason

[unique yew]

I always try to connect NA

I most of the time click on the quickmatch button. On the bf1 menu

[lofty light]

Try using the server browser

[unique yew]

So it should automatically send me in a NA game.

[lofty light]

Quick match isn't all that flash

[unique yew]

Alright, still it’s really weird

I mean, is my pc ok? Idk why it could run everything fine but bf1 goes ape shit after 2 games

[prime jasper]

quick match is a waste

server browser is way better

[unique yew]

Legit after 1 to 2 games. The low fps high ping kicks in

[prime jasper]

so your fine for your first game?

[unique yew]

Yeah?

[prime jasper]

try re installing

[unique yew]

Hope BFV optimises that

Shit didn’t thought about that

I’ll try that tmrw

[prime jasper]

its the only fix i can think of atm

[unique yew]

Played the bfv beta fine as well

[prime jasper]

there are alot more techie people than me in this server though

so maybe somebody else has a fix

[unique yew]

Fair enough

I mean you reminded me of reinstalling

Which might and hopefully fix it

[prime jasper]

yeah

just try it out

if bfv worked fine

you might have problem with your actual game that re-installing will fix

[rose eagle]

reformat

[lofty light]

Check your ram usage as well

I use butt tonnes of ram when I'm playing

[prime jasper]

I also have 8GBs of RAM and lag like hell, even when ping is fine, perhaps its a memory issue?

I play with RAM like maxed out

[rose eagle]

8gb isnt amazing but the 3gb of VRAM is killer

even my 970 had 4gb but was taxed

[lofty light]

You mean 3.5GB

[prime jasper]

i have hugest drop chances in GTAV and BF1. destiny2 suffers in some moments too but hella of a smoothly running on my rx 580 8gb and i5 4590

at everything maxed except AA setting which is TAA easily pull out 80-90fps at least up to 130s in 1080p

[prime jasper]

i5 4590 can';t be properly ocd on h97 board tho

[plush smelt]

4c/4t is BF1 breakfast

[prime jasper]

mostly these 2games are shiot performing for me for now.

[plush smelt]

the problem of old processor is to keep this fps

suddenly it goes above 50 fps (on explosions or places with a lot of players)

yes

[prime jasper]

i wonder how huge advantage id have using i7 4770/4790-k or 10core xeon of 7years old.

[unborn epoch]

4790k at decent oc will surely beat an old ass 10core

[prime jasper]

in gaming, not multitasking.

[unborn epoch]

Yes

[prime jasper]

GTAV and BF1/V are more multicore related now.

[unborn epoch]

Probably.

Gta does better on high clocked cpu actually

[prime jasper]

friend of mine has 4790k and x6850 xeons

[unborn epoch]

No idea about bfv

[prime jasper]

both ocd

4790k loses.

xeon runs on 980ti

in every game

4790k runs 1070 as a main gpu.

[unborn epoch]

Ehhh

Interesting

Yeah hard to tell

980ti is a very beefy card

Pretty sure it's slightly faster too

But im not sure.

So the only thing we can conclude from this is that we're schizophrenic

[worn storm]

Were there any comments about dx12 being fixed in bfv ? so far dx12 was stuttery af in frostbite games. Hope they fix dx12 because of RTX

[unborn epoch]

Ya that's what I hope for

[unborn epoch]

Ya for my systems it was a miss

[jolly iron]

Oh, maybe that's why I couldn't run BF1

My PC has DX12

[unborn epoch]

Well it ran best in dx11 for me

[rose eagle]

I mean every PC has dx12 but you sure as hell turn it off in bf lol

DX12 adds a layer of platform specific optimization developers can utilize but that's more effort so I'm not sure how many actually implement it

It's really helpful for CPU heavy games so it is kind of sad we don't see it in BF

[vale trellis]

BF 5 Beta run on my PC with idk 30-50 FPS on Low... would the final Game run on my PC ? (sorry for Bad English)
my PC :
1050 ti
8 GB RAM (DDR3)
Intel Pentium G4560 (2 Cores 4 Threads 3.5 Ghz)

[unborn epoch]

that's going to be rough

g4560 is below the minimum requirements

[prime jasper]

i own i5 4590 and it was still rough for me for BF1 and V when tested on 960

rx 580 allowed get more fps but that doesnt sort fps drops due to high cpu usage and low gpu usage in mp.

60fps at 1080p is nothing special.

[rose eagle]

4c8t minimum processor and 1060 6gb are your playable specs from Panda

Since my 3770k can hit 4.3ghz that makes a 3.7ghz 9700k look like it might even underperform if I don't OC it

[slate rivet]

anyone know the main differences between iPhone X and XR

currently i am able to get a cheaper deal with the XR.. i thought the newly released would more pircey

[rose eagle]

X has OLED screen, XR has IPS supposedly

[slate rivet]

IPS?

[rose eagle]

iphone 8s screen

[slate rivet]

oh i see

[rose eagle]

doesnt it lack a camera also?

front

[slate rivet]

in-plane switching.. is a screen technolgy for liquid-crystal displays (lcds)

XR seems worse.. guess it makes sense for the cheaper price

but they have the same processor ... A12

[rose eagle]

no 3d touch, whatever that means

doesnt even have a 1080 p screen

thats disgusting

[slate rivet]

lmfao what screen is it?

well res

[rose eagle]

1792x828?

...

XS is 2436x1125

[slate rivet]

camera is Single 12mp

others have dual 12mp wide

whatever that means haha

[rose eagle]

screen alone is a reason for me to buy or not buy a phone

[slate rivet]

yeah that's true

if it's not better than what i have.. noo thanks

[rose eagle]

my galaxy s8+ is 2960x1440

[slate rivet]

sxc

battery life is 11:26

[rose eagle]

yea its stupid beautiful, colors pop compared to my ipad mini 3

fkin BSODd again

greaaaaaaat

[slate rivet]

rip

[prime jasper]

on ultra seemed i cah utilize gpu perf better

[rose eagle]

lol well, yes if your cpu cant hang in with 60fps then i suppose smashing the GPU with higher res scale would seem beneficial 😄

[unborn epoch]

panda don';t be silly

you are forgetting performance per clock is much better

your 3770k is 7 trillion years old

[rose eagle]

they're all liars, nothing has changed in computing Battlefield's Frostbite engine per core since 2012

[prime jasper]

i just reinstalled bf1 and im still getting the same error

you have lost connection to the session

[rose eagle]

have you tried forwarding the massive plethora of ports for BF1 through your router?

i have a guy in our clan who is saying fk you to V just because he got connection time outs over a year ago and still does today,

this was even after a reformat, so it's got to be something on the hardware level of a router or something

even a brand new PC upgrade actually, still timing out

[unborn epoch]

ehhh

your internet is probably broken somewhere

highly unlikely it's the game if you had this proiblem for a long while

[rose eagle]

the guy i know has zero problems with any other games ever

theres something shitty with BF1 talking through whatever common ground these few people have when getting disconnected during play

i saw a thread on it, it's probably like .1% of population and they have no way to resolve it on their end

[unborn epoch]

take your system to a friend's

problem is probably solved

[rose eagle]

i told the guy in my clan to bypass the router as a test

modem to PC

havent heard back, but you just have to start eliminating issues

[unborn epoch]

did he get hacked in 10 minutes?

[rose eagle]

😄

[prime jasper]

tried opening some ports locally but it still doesn't seem to work, i guess i'll just do it on the router

i literally only started having this issue a few days ago

[rose eagle]

=/

didnt do a router firmware update or change anything?

[prime jasper]

didn't touch the router no

i changed my dns but it's been like that for a long time

[rose eagle]

https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/faq/opening-tcp-or-udp-ports-for-connection-issues/#battlefield

quite a few to forward to your local IP

[prime jasper]

ah on the page i went it only showed two

[rose eagle]

i wonder if just temp DMZ'ing your IP would be an accurate test

[unborn epoch]

no, cables, switches, routers can all be dooodoo

even the distributor outside could be broken

[prime jasper]

idk why there'd only be an issue with bf1/bf4 in that case

[unborn epoch]

could be bf handles choke differently

[prime jasper]

also on a seperate note, does anyone else get a ton of microstuttering with dx12

[unborn epoch]

or packetloss

ya

dx12 is megadoodoo in bf1

[prime jasper]

dx12 is the main reason i bought a 570 :/

[unborn epoch]

why

dx12 is on paper super cool, but i haven't seen any AAA title implement it yet

[prime jasper]

1060 3gb outperformed it in most cases

also i play at 1440p so 3gb probably wouldn't have cut it

[unborn epoch]

dx12 would remove a bunch of overhead but it just doesn't work right

maybe in bfv it's better we'll have to wait and see

[gentle dawn]

i know this is a retarded question but what actually makes a new 2017/2018 intel 4 core better then my amd athlon 4 core from 2013

[prime jasper]

better single core perf?

[unborn epoch]

well it's intel for one

especially pre ryzen, per clock and per core intel is so much better

[gentle dawn]

are newer cpus just better

the cores

simple as this

that*

[prime jasper]

well i mean bulldozer was pretty good for the time nobody realises that its 7 years old

[unborn epoch]

pretty much, at least I hope so

[gentle dawn]

hmhm

cause you have like threads and cache mem

[unborn epoch]

bulldozer was considered a failure?

[gentle dawn]

and some other stuff

[unborn epoch]

bulldozer wasn't good at all

[prime jasper]

i dont remember sandy bridge being that exceptional either

okk it works with a vpn, most definitely an issue with the router

[unborn epoch]

are you high

sandy bridge was godlike

[gentle dawn]

thats sounds like a movie

[unborn epoch]

maybe not the celeron G440

[gentle dawn]

someone actually named a cpu that?

[unborn epoch]

but the 2500/2700 were the absolute bomb

[gentle dawn]

anyway

[prime jasper]

well intel now is garbage

[gentle dawn]

at some point they realized just having more clock speed per core wasnt enough right

what did they do after that to make em better

[unborn epoch]

what about ryzen

[prime jasper]

smt

[unborn epoch]

no

intel's sandy bridge

[prime jasper]

theres a tradeoff with higher frequency and efficiency so they decided to add more cores, hyperthreading and all that

[unborn epoch]

the 2500K and 2700K were insane chips

you can't go infinitely fast without putting the power of a sun into it, correct

also physical limitations

with current silicon anyway

[gentle dawn]

ah

so higher speed wouldve reduced durability

[prime jasper]

circa kaby lake intel chips just went garbage

also higher temps

[unborn epoch]

chips were fine, the TIM used was aids

if you wanted good temps you needed to delid your pcu

cpu*

[prime jasper]

i'd never do that its too risky

[unborn epoch]

there's about no risk actually, i've done plenty of delids

only downside is your warranty runs out so let's say something does go wrong you are doomed

[gentle dawn]

and um

[unborn epoch]

or is void, w/e

[gentle dawn]

what makes the cpu able to clock to higher speeds?

just the durability?

[unborn epoch]

no it's a power thing

[gentle dawn]

cause i overclocked mine and it just artifacted my screen n shit

[unborn epoch]

people overclock cpus to over 6, even 7GHZ

[gentle dawn]

then crashed

[unborn epoch]

fastes was an amd bulldozer i think

8ghz and then some.

[gentle dawn]

damb

so a better power supply?

or increasing how much power its giving

[unborn epoch]

not even that, a decent powersupply would be enough. Cooling is the biggest problem.

[gentle dawn]

weird

i have really good cooling

and i barley overclocked it

[prime jasper]

how did bulldozer get high frequency so easily with 8 cores

[gentle dawn]

it mightve already been overclocked?

[unborn epoch]

really good cooling would mean cooling with nitrogen 😄

freezing your cpu far below 0

[gentle dawn]

well i have like 5 huge fans

my case is litteraly built around a fan

[prime jasper]

have you done hardline

[gentle dawn]

?

[prime jasper]

cooling

not the shite battlefield game

[gentle dawn]

you mean nitrogen?

cooling has never been a problem for me

[prime jasper]

nah like cooling with pvc tubes

[unborn epoch]

watercooling?

[prime jasper]

yeah

[gentle dawn]

my fan sits at 20% when i "try" to play battlefeild 1

[prime jasper]

whats your specs

[gentle dawn]

and it still doesnt get hot

uhh

amd athlon 4 core something with an amd radeon r9 280x

no idea what the motherboard is

[unborn epoch]

phase change cooling is also an option, but it's in the realm of ridiculous for normal use

[prime jasper]

280x is ~~1050ti

you got a cpu bottleneck

[gentle dawn]

ti?

yah i know that

what makes the cpu cap out tho

would would change on a better model to stop it from capping out as soon

[prime jasper]

a lot of things really, ryzen got a huge boost in perf over older generations because of smt

[unborn epoch]

i wouldn't invest in upgrades in your situation. It needs everything replaced.

[gentle dawn]

idk man

[prime jasper]

280x is fine i remember it being insane value

[gentle dawn]

its runs everything fine

except for battlefeild 1

that to

awesome value for what these parts are

[unborn epoch]

sure was

doesn't mean it'll run the very top tier games forever

[gentle dawn]

and again runs fine except for some big triple a game

there also new

this pc is barley a year old

[prime jasper]

how much did you get it for

[gentle dawn]

600?

[prime jasper]

eeeeek

sorry dude you got mugged

[gentle dawn]

my moms it guy built it

so he got a bunch of discounts

still have yet to learn how to build one .-.

[unborn epoch]

280x gpu came out in 2013

[gentle dawn]

yup

[prime jasper]

if you bought it for 600 a year ago

you pretty much got scammed

[gentle dawn]

arent alot of decent pc's around that much

[unborn epoch]

time to learn how to build your own friend

[prime jasper]

prebuilds sure

[gentle dawn]

yah i dont have any money tho

[prime jasper]

a lot of prebuilds have those old athlon cpus and some 4 year old amd gpu

[unborn epoch]

time to get a paperroute friend 😄

[gentle dawn]

lol

i tried

[prime jasper]

haha make a roblox game

[gentle dawn]

the sad part is i kinda have a proper job

[prime jasper]

sell a kidney they go for a few grand

[gentle dawn]

if i really wanted to i could probably make enough to build one in like 2 months

[unborn epoch]

well then. what are you waiting for

[gentle dawn]

people in my neighbor hood give me 20 bucks to mow there tiny lawns

im lazy boi

[prime jasper]

whats your budget

[gentle dawn]

no idea

less then a grand

[prime jasper]

sub 400 you're better off getting a console

[gentle dawn]

around like 400/500 i guess

consoles suck

[storm osprey]

or the used market

[gentle dawn]

im never getting a console

[unborn epoch]

if i were you i'd enjoy the games you can play now

[gentle dawn]

unless its for free

[unborn epoch]

and save up some more money

[prime jasper]

usedconsoles are pretty good value for now

400 wont get you much for a gaming rig

you can pick up a ps4 pro for really cheap

[storm osprey]

you can get a decent used pc set up

[gentle dawn]

from what it could see this build can run bf4

witch i wanna get

[prime jasper]

My GPU alone costs more than that, my dude, not trying to shit on you because I for sure dont have the best tech

But.. Yeah

a lot of used parts were used for mining and shite you're lucky if it doesn't break down in a few months

[gentle dawn]

you wasted aton of money then

this thing is barley uncapable of running triple a games

[unborn epoch]

pc gaming, especially high end is an expensive hobby unfortunately

[prime jasper]

I can stream, play any game I want at 100+ fps, & do basically anything you can think of

[gentle dawn]

and actually can run some games at 30 fps

[prime jasper]

Even rendering

I dont consider it wasted

[gentle dawn]

just saying you can get a good pc for really cheap

[prime jasper]

i mean its kinda true if you're gonna pick up a polaris card

[gentle dawn]

i think imma buy some used parts of new egg

or get my moms it guys to get them for discounted

[prime jasper]

I bought new, because I wanted new

[unborn epoch]

significantly

[gentle dawn]

tbh i really think i just need to upgrade my cpu

again this pc is new as well

[prime jasper]

cpu mobo and ram

ddr3 is ancient

[gentle dawn]

i have 16 gb of ram

[unborn epoch]

worst thing that happens to mining gpus is fans breaking down

which can b e replace with some handiwork

[gentle dawn]

back to the other thing

why did my pc crash when i overclocked

if my cooling is perfectly fine

[prime jasper]

thermal throttling probably

[unborn epoch]

overclocking too far causes instabilities

[gentle dawn]

cause its running at i think 3.2 gh

and i barley overclocked it

right now its 2.8 actually

but its using 3 cores

for some reason

[prime jasper]

make sure you're not overvolting

[gentle dawn]

i just need to take a class on this shit

[red ingot]

Lol

^

[prime jasper]

10 minute tutorial

[red ingot]

Was just about to say

[gentle dawn]

i prefer an actual class

[red ingot]

Eh

[gentle dawn]

youtube is good for tips n shit

[unborn epoch]

I don't bother with overclocking much anymore. I only touch the multiplier and voltage to see how tight I can get it.

[red ingot]

I dont think theres an overclocking class lol

[gentle dawn]

not properly learning gstuff

not about overclocking

i know how to overclock

[red ingot]

welcome to overclocking 101

[gentle dawn]

i just cant

[unborn epoch]

class/

[gentle dawn]

cause my pc wont let me without crashing

[red ingot]

Not stable then

[unborn epoch]

There's much more information available on the internet than a class can ever teach you

[prime jasper]

lol an overclocking bootcamp would probably be as useless as a programming bootcamp

[red ingot]

Lol

[unborn epoch]

The problem is you, you are a lazy boi.

[red ingot]

O.o

[gentle dawn]

mate ive looked aton on youtube

[unborn epoch]

Not my words by the way, those were his own words :p

[gentle dawn]

yahh

[prime jasper]

theres a pretty decent video by jayz2cents and that other guy

[gentle dawn]

just again i only need to upgrade my cpu

[prime jasper]

bitwit or something

[gentle dawn]

its bottlenecking

so my gpu is fine

my cooling is fine

[unborn epoch]

upgrading cpu means upgrading motherboard means upgrading ram.

It's not that simple

[gentle dawn]

and all my parts in generals are just good

well

[prime jasper]

and probably psu too

[storm osprey]

what cpu you have?

[gentle dawn]

i know there a better cpu i can get for this mobo

[unborn epoch]

don't bother

[prime jasper]

they're all gonna be inferior

especially that sempron shite or whatever

[gentle dawn]

AMD athlon ll X4 630

[red ingot]

Oof

[unborn epoch]

keep the hardware you have now, play the games you can play. save up for a better more recent machine.

[storm osprey]

ok yea, thats... thats bad

[gentle dawn]

sems fine

seems*

[red ingot]

RIP u

[gentle dawn]

runs everything besides bf1

[red ingot]

And bfv

[gentle dawn]

and im pretty sure i will run bf4

[red ingot]

U missing out

[unborn epoch]

even a 2500K will struggle running BFV

intel 2500K, not some kind of ryzen you amd crying babbies

[red ingot]

Bfv very cpu intensive

[gentle dawn]

mate for what this is its a beast

it was optimized amazingingly

sure

[storm osprey]

if thats on the same platform as 8350 id say get that cpu used then save

[gentle dawn]

sometimes can actuall run bf1

[storm osprey]

but otherise, youre looking at a whole upgrade

[gentle dawn]

on small maps

[prime jasper]

my machine struggles to play it, r5 1400 and rx 570 can only get it to 60fps after putting everything at 1080p low

[gentle dawn]

i dont think i need a whole upgrade

my gpu is pretty good

[storm osprey]

cpu,ram,mb

[gentle dawn]

why ram?

[unborn epoch]

for battlefield 1 and V you do

[gentle dawn]

i have 16 gb

[prime jasper]

Whats your GPU?

[gentle dawn]

and there new

[storm osprey]

because ddr3 isnt supported on new cpus mbs

[gentle dawn]

AMD radeon r9 280x

[prime jasper]

ddr3 wont fit in a newer mobo

[unborn epoch]

you are running DDR3, anything recent is using DDR4

recent is 3 years now?

[gentle dawn]

ddr3 is the ram?

[storm osprey]

yes

ddr4 came out a couple of years ago

[unborn epoch]

the ram will physically not fit in newer motherboards.

and if it does, you broke something

[red ingot]

Lol

[gentle dawn]

adaptors?

[red ingot]

No

[unborn epoch]

don't exist

[storm osprey]

i dont thin phyiscally is the only problem

[gentle dawn]

hmm

[storm osprey]

theres different tech

[red ingot]

Well nor will it be supported

[unborn epoch]

the pinlayout and standard is completely different

[red ingot]

Or recognized I dont think

Lol

[gentle dawn]

would it be worth it to get the new stuff used

[red ingot]

Uh

[storm osprey]

used is hit or missed

[unborn epoch]

sure, buying 2nd hand isn't bad if you can trust the seller

[red ingot]

^

[storm osprey]

ive never had a problem

[gentle dawn]

hhm

[red ingot]

I mean I always treat my parts well

[storm osprey]

cases, cpus, mbs

[gentle dawn]

another thing

[red ingot]

Some dont

[prime jasper]

Selling my 1080ti for $200 btw, totally not because I mined the utter shit out of it for half a year straight

[gentle dawn]

i was thinkign about doing a class where i just learn how computers work and all the terminolgy and shit

and build a pc while im doing that

[unborn epoch]

i would buy a 1080ti for 200 if it mined for half a year

even a full year

[gentle dawn]

mined?

[storm osprey]

@prime jasper linus did a mining comparison, there was no problem with a mined card

[unborn epoch]

ya, mining cryptocurrency

[gentle dawn]

why the fuck would i do that

[unborn epoch]

which sets the GPU to 100% 24/7 if you do it right

to make money

[gentle dawn]

that seems like a shit way to make money

[prime jasper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LyVdtg if you're not planning to oc

[unborn epoch]

well, not anymore. mining on gpus is kinda dead now

[gentle dawn]

i fuckign hate gambling

[unborn epoch]

it was a very legit and great way to make money

but you'd have t o be one of the first

[prime jasper]

People were making loads of money at first, then everyone smelled some gold

And it all went downhill

[gentle dawn]

exactly

dont really wanna support shit liek that anyway

[unborn epoch]

well new exchanges and cryptocurrencies pop up

[storm osprey]

but gpus that were mined are not inherently bad because of it

[gentle dawn]

not the dirrection the economy should be going

[unborn epoch]

it depends, gamble on a starting currency to become wanted and you make bank

Let's start an exchange and mine Boins

We'll call them Brypto Burrency Boins

[red ingot]

Doge coin

[prime jasper]

my bro used to mine bitcoin back when it was a few hundred

[gentle dawn]

how does the mobo affect the performance of the pc

[unborn epoch]

coinye

[storm osprey]

almost not at all

[prime jasper]

@gentle dawn https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LyVdtg

go with a 1300x and b350 if you're gona oc

[storm osprey]

only difference would be if your mb is locked or unlocked and so is your cpu

[unborn epoch]

in fps very little, motherboard 'performance' is measured in amount of ports

[gentle dawn]

umm

[unborn epoch]

and features

[gentle dawn]

the 630 in the cpu

what does that mean

[storm osprey]

yea mb is mostly stability/features

[red ingot]

Afaik the cheaper motherboards have poor stability right? Generally speaking

[storm osprey]

the difference at most is MAYBE 3 fps

[unborn epoch]

if you go for clocking or use the highest end cpus, yes

power delivery is often not the best

[gentle dawn]

i was thinkin about getting a 3 core intel

[red ingot]

Yeah like if u get a cheap mobo you're gonna have poorer stability for PC etc.

[unborn epoch]

but if you put a midrange cpu in there it shouldn't really matter

[red ingot]

Oc*

[storm osprey]

literally, almost all the people buying asus rog mb's dont need it at all

[prime jasper]

it looks nice

[red ingot]

Lol that too

[gentle dawn]

would and i3 be good?

[red ingot]

Um no

[storm osprey]

i3 are ok for gaming

[prime jasper]

ryzen bro

[gentle dawn]

cause you only need a couple cores to run games

[storm osprey]

but not for bf

bf actually wants about 6 cores

[prime jasper]

ryzen 3 >>> i3

i3*

[gentle dawn]

rly?

[storm osprey]

yea

[red ingot]

Bf very cpu intensive

[gentle dawn]

all the fourums says no games use over 4 cores

[storm osprey]

they used to

[red ingot]

Games are becoming more cpu intensive

[gentle dawn]

hmm

[prime jasper]

like odessy

[gentle dawn]

does that mean hyper threading would be good

[storm osprey]

and you can run games on 4 cores, your just limiting

[gentle dawn]

with all the levolution

[storm osprey]

hyper threading count as like 15% of a core

[gentle dawn]

or whatever tf

[prime jasper]

thread ~ core

[gentle dawn]

doesnt hyper threading just double the ammount of cores more or less

[storm osprey]

no

not at all

thats why i said hyper threading is like 15% of a core

[gentle dawn]

is hypthreading when the cores have 2 thread on them/

[red ingot]

Rip

[storm osprey]

an 4c8t cpu will get beat by a 6c6t cpu

[red ingot]

15% of a core didnt know it was that bad lol

[gentle dawn]

if it works then it isnt bad

i think you guys are kinda forgeting that

[storm osprey]

not an actual number, just a guesstimate

if it works, then you can play console

[gentle dawn]

i dont really see why games should be getting more intensive with the hardware

[storm osprey]

if 30fps is fine with you

[gentle dawn]

4k resolution seems fine

[prime jasper]

so that games look better?

[storm osprey]

because games dont look like super mario 1 anymore

[gentle dawn]

fucking 1080 seems fine

.-.

[unborn epoch]

Would you rather play Doom from 1993 or Battlefield 5?

[storm osprey]

1080 is perfect for most

[prime jasper]

1080 is completely fine

[unborn epoch]

Actually doom is dope as hell, but.. stilll.

[gentle dawn]

yee

im saying

[prime jasper]

60 is a must though

[storm osprey]

^

[gentle dawn]

you guys are saying i should build a new pc

[red ingot]

laughs in 144

[gentle dawn]

because the newer future games will need it

but why should they

[unborn epoch]

if you want to play bf1 or bfv decently, you need new hardware

[storm osprey]

because your current rig is at a dead end and going to suffer on anything new

[gentle dawn]

1080 60 fps is perfectly fine

[unborn epoch]

because why would people buy new games if they did not improve?

[gentle dawn]

they have no reason to improve

[red ingot]

^

[prime jasper]

yeah but if you're not running 1080p60 right now then you need an upgrade

[storm osprey]

youre not getting 1080p 60fps on bfv with that rig

[gentle dawn]

yah now

[storm osprey]

ill seriously be surprised

[unborn epoch]

if 1080 60 is perfectly fine for you that's great, you wont need the most expensive hardware

[red ingot]

No reason to improve...

[gentle dawn]

we have 12k resolution now dont we

[red ingot]

U want all games to remain 8 bit forever?

That's no improvement

[gentle dawn]

why tf should it need to go past that

[unborn epoch]

pretty sure 8k is now available

[prime jasper]

resolution isn't the only factor

[red ingot]

And probably hard af to run

[prime jasper]

you want your games not to look like shite

[red ingot]

Yeah and textures and stuff

[gentle dawn]

i mean

bf1 looks amazing

[unborn epoch]

Actually we have a few improvements to make in the resolution scale

especially for VR gaming

[gentle dawn]

bf4 reall looks good

it doesnt seem like it can look any better

[unborn epoch]

You don't want to be able to see individual pixels with a headset pretty much bolted into your eyeballs

[prime jasper]

when raytracing gets properly introduced you'll see a huge difference

[red ingot]

Teue

True

[gentle dawn]

and vr

:/

thats really a gimick

[unborn epoch]

lightning/shadows need huge amounts of work and there's lots to win on the physics end

[prime jasper]

we're a few years away from two huge paradigm shifts

vr isn't a gimmick lol

[unborn epoch]

especially particles

[gentle dawn]

im saying its cool and all

but were not gonan be playing bf in vr anytime soon

[storm osprey]

i dont think if vr was perfect that it would take off

[prime jasper]

i mean you already can play bf in vr

[gentle dawn]

all expensive as shit

also*

[prime jasper]

rift is 400

[unborn epoch]

I assume you are a bit younger

[prime jasper]

a rig that can handle vr is prob 500

[unborn epoch]

The older you get the more value your time becomes, the more you spend on things you like

[gentle dawn]

you can build a pc that can run it better for how much vr costs

[unborn epoch]

You might not understand this now, but later you will.

[gentle dawn]

yah i get that

you guys seem to care a little to much

im content watchin shit in 720

id rather not if i can go higher

but yah

[unborn epoch]

that's cool, you'll change your mind on that

[red ingot]

Okay, then dont upgrade.

[prime jasper]

i'd say 720 is bare minimum

[storm osprey]

its all up to you, but i dont see your rig lasting long

[red ingot]

We just trying to help

[unborn epoch]

or maybe not, you'll be able to buy cheaper hardware 😃

[gentle dawn]

i know your tryna help

[storm osprey]

thats all im saying

your pc on its last legs

[gentle dawn]

im just not trying to plan for my pc being able to run bfx in vr

[red ingot]

Imo you're defending your build like crazy

Doesnt really seem like you're open to advice

[gentle dawn]

im not really defending it

i know its not great

[prime jasper]

a capable pc is easily 400-500 dollars

[storm osprey]

dont plan on your pc running bfv at 1080p 60 fps

[unborn epoch]

your pc is fine for games except for a few AAA titles pushing the limits of today's hardware

[prime jasper]

look at the list i linked you that can run games pretty well at 1080

[gentle dawn]

@unborn epoch exactly

[unborn epoch]

this isn't the place to discuss about titles that aren't AAA+++

[gentle dawn]

and i want to upgrade

[unborn epoch]

this is dice's discord 😄

[gentle dawn]

im just tryna be efficient about it

and not spend aton of money that i dont need to

[unborn epoch]

Ok

Set a baseline. What resolution, what framerate.

[gentle dawn]

im pretty sure if i tried hard enough i could spend 200 bucks to make this thing run bf5 at 1080 60 fps

[unborn epoch]

you might if you buy the latest cpu based on your motherboard

[gentle dawn]

witch is what i was planning on

cause after that

[unborn epoch]

but you wont be able to play the game at reasonable settings, you ahve to put it all the way down

[gentle dawn]

id be content playing what that can run

then id be able to get a job

[prime jasper]

you could probably find a decent mobo, cpu and some ram for 200 used

[gentle dawn]

and save up for something even better

[unborn epoch]

yeah there's great 2nd hand upgrade kits available for that price

[gentle dawn]

but like right right now

im tryna figure out how to be able to run bf4

cause im pretty sure this can run that

according to the system requirments

[prime jasper]

well go ahead and play it lol

[storm osprey]

if you can get an 8350 used and its compatible with your mb, get that, might have to upgrade gpu as well

[gentle dawn]

a what?

[prime jasper]

fx8350

[unborn epoch]

it definitelyt should yeah

[storm osprey]

amd fx 8350

cpu

[gentle dawn]

what does that number mean tho

[unborn epoch]

bf4 min requirements are a duocore and old ass gpu iirc

[storm osprey]

model number

[gentle dawn]

is it an intel?

[prime jasper]

8350 competes with some i3s/lower i5s

amd

[gentle dawn]

they do big number to show that its btter right

[storm osprey]

he either has an am3 or am3+ mb, and idk if a am3+ cpu works on an am3 mb

[gentle dawn]

i does the grammar good

[prime jasper]

nah amd just sucks at naming

[storm osprey]

well within the fx line yes, the increase in number does mean its better

[gentle dawn]

an i5 would work right

[unborn epoch]

you have to figure out what motherboard you have specifically first before buying a new cpu

[storm osprey]

i5 wont work on your build

[gentle dawn]

yh

[prime jasper]

you can't put an i5 on an am3 mobo

[gentle dawn]

how do i figure that out

i know that

[storm osprey]

too many hands in the pot.. im taking the sideline

[gentle dawn]

everyone just stops talking

[unborn epoch]

tbh i dont know what software can even read that shit anymore, i'd open the case and look for it on the board itself

[gentle dawn]

asus m4ab9gtd pro?

thats a thing that is ays

[prime jasper]

am3 not am3+

i dont think you can put a 8350 in it

[gentle dawn]

it also says it can run a 140 watt cpu

didnt that that mattered

didnt know*

[prime jasper]

wait you probably could with a bios upgrade

[gentle dawn]

yah

[storm osprey]

you CAN NOT put an am3+ cpu into an am3 mb

[gentle dawn]

uhh

how do i open bios

also how to i make my cpu use all its cores

[prime jasper]

Some manufacturers have brought AM3+ support to some of their AM3 motherboards via a simple BIOS upgrade. Mechanical compatibility has been confirmed and it is possible for AM3+ CPUs to fit in AM3 boards, provided they can supply enough peak current.

[unborn epoch]

It would require some research before biting that bullet then

[gentle dawn]

right now i wanna enable my fourth core and see what mobo i have

[storm osprey]

current and bios update

[gentle dawn]

how do i open the bios?

[prime jasper]

spam delete

restart

then spam delete*

[gentle dawn]

restart or shutdown?

i thought it was shutdown

[storm osprey]

dude cant open bios, no offence, i dont see him doing a bios update and checking all the requirements to throw an 8350 on his mb

[gentle dawn]

i can figure it out

brb

[unborn epoch]

godspeed

<son sets house on fire because he couldn't play bf4, parent sues Discord users>

[prime jasper]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/AMD-Ryzen-3-1200-3-1ghz-Quad-Core-Socket-Am4-Processor/2241529261?iid=153227891647&chn=ps
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corsair-Vengeance-8gb-2-x-4gb-2666MHz-DDR4-RAM/123469382565?epid=2254813448&hash=item1cbf5943a5:g:fFIAAOSwI~Vb3z8n
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-AMD-PRIME-A320M-K-MOTHERBOARD-for-First-Generation-Ryzen-CPU-DDR4/283245178258?epid=2256004023&hash=item41f2ba6d92:g:itkAAOSwXitb4C08:rk:2:pf:1&frcectupt=true

less than 200

might need a psu upgrade too depending on how much power it supplies

[storm osprey]

that ram looks like laptop ram

[unborn epoch]

it is

[prime jasper]

oh wait it is?

[unborn epoch]

260pin is sodim

[prime jasper]

wasn't looking properly

uh one sec

[unborn epoch]

would one even bother buying an i3 though?

i wouldn't, i'd mow more lawns and get a step up

[prime jasper]

ryzen3

i think it'd pair nicely with a 280x

[unborn epoch]

oh i misread

[prime jasper]

doesn't look like he wants to upgrade much

and a new mobo, cpu, ram and gpu is pretty much a complete upgrade

[unborn epoch]

I dont know where the 280x lands. Is it above or below a 7850?

[prime jasper]

i think it was a 7870 refresh

like you could actually run crossfire with this and a 7870

so it has similar perf to a 1050/1050ti i think

[unborn epoch]

the 280x then meets the minimum requirements

but only barely

nah, i'd definitely do more lawnwork, choirs, ask mom for a favor or invent microsoft and go for ryzen5/recent gpu

[prime jasper]

or meke roblocks game :dab:

lol im not even joking one day on roblox top earning lands you near 10k

[unborn epoch]

You mean make the actual game roblox?

[prime jasper]

yeah the game/platform thingy

[unborn epoch]

Oh sure.

I'd make minecraft and pawn it off to microsoft (that i invented as well)

man that makes me a shit entrepreneur or i'm trying to evade taxes some way

empty contents, send contents to me, flatten the box

[prime jasper]

ms must hire dumbasses if they offered notch 2b for an outdated game

[unborn epoch]

enjoy your new gaming experience!

make sure to update your drivers

building systems is fun

[prime jasper]

^

[unborn epoch]

im already looking at what my new rig should look like

[gentle dawn]

yyet

that was easy

[unborn epoch]

last few rigs have been fully aircooled, next i want to get into watercooling again

[gentle dawn]

you guys know why one of my cores got disabled?

[unborn epoch]

what cpu do you have specifically

some cpus were sold with one core disabled

[gentle dawn]

well i just suddenly crashed and disabled the 3rd core

i just went in an renabled it

[unborn epoch]

alright

which is roughly 25% of your performance right there

[gentle dawn]

lol ye

all 4 were enabled before tho

um

yet

yeet

are my ram sticks sposed to be right next to each other?

i saw a vid where a guy said there not

[unborn epoch]

usually not no

[storm osprey]

if you have 4 slots they should be split

but check manual

[gentle dawn]

i have 4 ram sticks

and 4 slots

[unborn epoch]

in that case you're fine

[storm osprey]

.. then they will be next to eachother

[gentle dawn]

k

guess that is a retarded question

[unborn epoch]

don't be a dingus

[gentle dawn]

i cant find what mobo i have

[unborn epoch]

what you said could be your motherboard

[gentle dawn]

m4a89gtd

[unborn epoch]

M4A89GTD PRO right?

ya

[gentle dawn]

k then

gonna wright that down

you got a pen?

[unborn epoch]

taking my pen won't fly, pal

[gentle dawn]

theres a screw missing from my case

maybe ittle boost my fps if i put it back in

[unborn epoch]

most likely

[storm osprey]

each bolt adds 3 fps

thats why people screw on body kits for their cars

[unborn epoch]

i grease up my mousepad for extra smooth experience

[storm osprey]

each screw is 3 hp

[gentle dawn]

should i get a death adder or save up a bit more for a maba

mamba*

[unborn epoch]

save up for a better pc

[prime jasper]

A Korean telecommunications company started their first 10 gigabit internet package

for consumers

[gentle dawn]

k

[unborn epoch]

no one needs 10gbit to play starcraft

come on now

[storm osprey]

@gentle dawn what size hand do you have and what size mouse do you like?

[gentle dawn]

is knowing the measurments of your hand of the top of your head a normal thing

[storm osprey]

no, but you should know if they are small, med, or large

and what size mice you like

[gentle dawn]

there venti

k that was a bad joke

i like the look of the death adder

[storm osprey]

yea im not a white teen girl, idk what venti is

[gentle dawn]

but it looks a little clunky

and im gonna misclick the dpi buttons aton

the mamba just kinda looks better

[unborn epoch]

lol

[storm osprey]

death adder is definitely a med/large sized mouse

[gentle dawn]

but i guess i have medium hands

[unborn epoch]

was that a starbucks joke

[gentle dawn]

it was sposed to be

i dont even like starbucks

[unborn epoch]

if you actually know their name scheme you should definitely reconsider your spending

oh

stay away from starbucks and buy that sweet new pc

[gentle dawn]

yes

or a glow in the dark mouspad

to put on top of my big ass mouse pad

[unborn epoch]

just buy a fluorescent lamp

[gentle dawn]

thats on top of my desk with a built in mouspad

i kinda want a lava lamp

can put it inside of my pc and make it glow

or buy a water cooler and put irratiated gatorade inside

yah

this cpu is enough for bf4 right>?

[unborn epoch]

it should be

[gentle dawn]

if the minimum requirments are a duo core

aight then

i wrote down my ram mobo cpu and gpu

what else do i need

dafuq

task managers says im still at 2.8 gh

should i get a wifi cable

[unborn epoch]

[storm osprey]

im so confused at that last statement

[gentle dawn]

lel

[unborn epoch]

interesting how the ryzen printing is not horizontally aligned

you sure you put it in the right way?

[gentle dawn]

i wish i understood what this means

[rose eagle]

how many pins you bend in half when you shoved it in

[gentle dawn]

what

[unborn epoch]

you dingus, i meant the chip looks like it's put in wrong by 90*

[storm osprey]

yea its weird how it doesnt lay upright

[unborn epoch]

stop countertrolling me

[gentle dawn]

is the cpu upsidedown?

[unborn epoch]

nah we'll see you on the battlefield (v)

with either 140+ or 0 fps

[rose eagle]

😄

[unborn epoch]

😄

[rose eagle]

first problem it says Ryzen on it instead of Intel

[unborn epoch]

Boom

[storm osprey]

yea all the images on google shows ryzen sidways

stupid

[unborn epoch]

how many pins were bent on that chip huh?

[gentle dawn]

so it is in upsidedown

i thought that didnt matter

[strong breach]

[rose eagle]

2 triangle notches? =/

[unborn epoch]

[crude storm]

thermal paste will fix it all

[storm osprey]

its set correct, but it looks rotated 90 degrees

[gentle dawn]

oh

[unborn epoch]

ya i should return the product

[gentle dawn]

cant it rotate 90 degress tho

[unborn epoch]

wait for new release, or buy intel

[gentle dawn]

or is that the fan or something

[crude storm]

which cooler do you intend to use?

[rose eagle]

thermal paste

[crude storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/394981234272632833/508950052472094720/IMG_20181023_204504.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/394981234272632833/508950217270493202/IMG_20181023_214045.jpg

[rose eagle]

so much AMDs

[crude storm]

i changed the default amd cooler to a noctua nh-15se

[rose eagle]

twitches

[unborn epoch]

good lad, NH-D15 god

[rose eagle]

AIO

all that money saved on cpu/gpu shoved into cooler 😄

[unborn epoch]

this is true

but you have a few days to get it ready

also with the right gurl you will impress her

if she isn't it's a quick check straight out the door

nice external cooling

what is this, 1999

zalman reserator, good times

[storm osprey]

is your pc on the ground?!

[rose eagle]

yea who the hell keeps hardware around since 1999?????????

😄

[unborn epoch]

^ that goy

[crude storm]

the nh-15 se-am4 cost about 55 euro right now when ordering b-stock

[storm osprey]

pc's do not belong on the ground

[rose eagle]

B stock cooler, nice.. cant lose there

[prime jasper]

my pc is on carpet

[storm osprey]

ill kill you

[unborn epoch]

the nh-15 looks funny on a mitx case

[storm osprey]

floor pc people are the worst

[unborn epoch]

it's over 85% the size of the motherboard

[strong breach]

4days

[unborn epoch]

weeeew

[crude storm]

@rose eagle yeah means someone bought it opened it, saw it doesnt fit his case and returned it 😄

[unborn epoch]

lul

[rose eagle]

they dont fit o11 dynamic

prob #1 reason for return ;D

[unborn epoch]

if i had to buy a consumer case i'd buy the lian li pc o11 dynamic

[rose eagle]

is pretty awesome, just $$$

[unborn epoch]

ya

awesome things cost $$$

[rose eagle]

or 95% as awesome things for 50% less 😄

the top 1% of things are never worth the cost

[unborn epoch]

such as

[crude storm]

i bought the bequiet dark base pro 900 also b-stock for about 100euro

its not as good as i expected but it works

[rose eagle]

got my Meshify C for $75

shippedz

[unborn epoch]

it is functional but i dont want to say it's only 5% off as swag as the lian li case

[crude storm]

nice case, but i dont like the "glass" cases

[rose eagle]

i somehow got a steal of a deal on it at that price

i couldnt get an o11 without going with an AIO

[unborn epoch]

aio?

[rose eagle]

thats the problem with getting the best, you ahve to keep getting the best, add $$

all in one cooler

[unborn epoch]

you should go full custom in a o11

[rose eagle]

ha

add $500 😄

[unborn epoch]

AIO doesn't do justice

[rose eagle]

for zero % perf gains on your rig

meh!

[unborn epoch]

noise = also part of the performance imo

also gpu watercooling definitely adds to performance

[crude storm]

i own a custom water cooling system but i dont think i will install it

the noctua does fine work

[rose eagle]

my gpu is limited by just raw tech, temps are fine

same with CPU, it just wont OC on safe voltages any higher

[unborn epoch]

ya ur cpu is doodoo

ITS DOODOO

[rose eagle]

i wish i could just drop an 8700k in this bitch to prove everyone wrong