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red ingot
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It is overly pricy

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Especially since I'm in canada

storm osprey
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~faints~

red ingot
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But I'm hoping for a good black Friday sale

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Yeah ik

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Rip wallet

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I'm hoping to get at least 30% off

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But apparently this thing is solid

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I've had bad times with Dell in the past

rose eagle
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yea its a hidden gem

red ingot
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But I mean 27", 1440p, g sync, IPS

rose eagle
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i love mine

red ingot
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That's all USD

rose eagle
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IPS? on what

red ingot
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:(

rose eagle
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not the dell

red ingot
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No

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The asus

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The $900 CAD

rose eagle
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oh yea well, $350 USD vs what like $1494930593

red ingot
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Rip

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Lool

storm osprey
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yea the price diff just isnt justifiable to me

rose eagle
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you guys have black friday deal equivalents any time?

red ingot
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Dell would be about $600 CAD

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So the asus is about $300 more

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For a fair comparison

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And yeah

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We get great black Friday deals up here now

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Retailers were losing so much business to the US cause everyone would just cross the border so now we get solid deals up here too

storm osprey
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hahahah

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thats awesome

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yea the dell i linked i have seen go for 400 here

red ingot
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Yeah I could maybe get it on sale

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But in theory the asus would drop proportionately in black Friday deals

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To me worth the extra $300 if I'm planning on this thing lasting me minimum 5-10 years (only reason I'd upgrade is when 4k 144hz becomes viable and affordable)

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So that's like an extra $5/month over 5 years if u cost it out - that's how I see it at least

storm osprey
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its yo money, just mathematically doesnt work for me, theres no way its 50% better, but it costs 50% more

red ingot
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Well more like 40%

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Ish

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Nvm you're right - I cant math

storm osprey
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yea not doing the math or whatever, just giving rough scenario

red ingot
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No you're right I just fucked up my math

storm osprey
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i just guessed...

red ingot
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Aha you're a natural then ;)

storm osprey
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idk the numbers of the 2 xD

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ill take it

rose eagle
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V min reqs hit but not of any use 😄

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so they think a 1050 non Ti will run it? at what fking res

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and what does min req mean these days, 30fps?

storm osprey
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yea they dont explain much

rose eagle
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this is where i hate system requirements.. in this day and age we expect more

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this vagueness used to work when Doom 1 came out

storm osprey
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and people will definitely assume that if they have min spec requirements that they will get 60 fps at ultra or some shit

rose eagle
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they need a 1080p and 1440p ultra settings system requirements 60fps along with 1080p 60fps minimum low settings requirement

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for PC

storm osprey
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from their pov, id assume they are vague to avoid any conflicts

rose eagle
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yep legal bs

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requires the consumers to run real tests post release

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gg ;D

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even recommended isnt even good enough for min specs for 1080p proper gaming on low 😄

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i mean barely

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i guess thats the new "min specs", the recommended

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makes a mental note

storm osprey
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we should file a formal complaint

jolly iron
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I mean, I don't meet the DS3 specs, yet I can run it

unborn epoch
storm osprey
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you monster

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what is that a red?

unborn epoch
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9brown

storm osprey
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is 9 the lube you are using?

unborn epoch
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nah it';s the amount of beatings it can handle a minute

storm osprey
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lol

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those are rookie numbers

unborn epoch
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it's alive, it's alive!!!!

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oh, this feels much better with o-rings

storm osprey
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i cant wait for my next keyboard

unborn epoch
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did you order a new one?

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i kind of want a pok3r or something programmable ith the same size

storm osprey
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my friend i went to an az keyboard meet up with is really into them, he has (what i assume) is a custom one

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hes gonna give me that and solder on some aliaz switches

unborn epoch
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nice dood

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ya you can b uy dirt cheap pcbs from aliexpress

storm osprey
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if i like the switches enough ill get them for my work keyboard

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yea im into keyboards, but not making them

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the furthest i would go is swapping switched in my gmmk or lubing them

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im not gonna mix housing, stems, springs, and all that

unborn epoch
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ya

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never tried aliwhatever switches

storm osprey
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aliaz

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between me and my friend we have just about every switch out there

unborn epoch
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i tried gateron and kalih ones

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but weren't persistent in feel

storm osprey
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he has the massdrop 63 switch tester, has a cherry switch tester, and i got things he didnt have in a novelk keys switch tester

unborn epoch
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nice

storm osprey
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yea thats sadly the one thing you can really test on a switch tester, is how consistent they are

unborn epoch
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hmm found a place that sells cherry mx <color> for 61 ct a piece, i'll get some

storm osprey
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aliaz switches are basically zilents but slightly less bumpy and way less expensive

unborn epoch
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gotta havethat tactile feedback

storm osprey
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i like a slight bump

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just enough to know i pressed the key

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i hate when it feels like im trying to get over a bump to press the key

unborn epoch
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ya

storm osprey
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i like lighter switches too, not cherry speed fast, but 50g seems to be my sweet spot

unborn epoch
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ya whatever suits you the best

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i tried mainly cherry switches, i haven't even tried the new clear ones

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but the clear one is linear i think

storm osprey
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my bad i was thinking of a different switch

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clear is tactile 65g

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gateron clear is the 35g switch

rose eagle
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i cant do tactless

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i know theyre supposed to be the best for gaming but i couldnt type for sht on them

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like 100 typos per second

storm osprey
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yea neither can i, i tried since "it was the gamer switch" but it just felt lifeless

rose eagle
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i need to feel something activate

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plus they are just stupid loud lol

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you have to learn not to bottom them out and do probably months of muscle memory

storm osprey
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all mech switches are loud without o rings

rose eagle
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loud i guess compared to membrane yea

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the browns on the corsair are good enough not to trigger my wife

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and im in the living room 5 ft away

storm osprey
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thats what i dont get when people say reds are quieter, sure they are quieter to a degree, but when the loudest part is the bottom and topping out part it doesnt really matter much

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unless you get blues, then youre a dick

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wait until you try a silent switch majic

rose eagle
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no! this k70 gonna last me til im buried 😄

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now that im going to keep it clean..

unborn epoch
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you can damp the sound even more by using rings

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makes the keys a bit more mushy but personally i don't mind it

storm osprey
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i dont like that it shortens the travel, and you still get the clack from the switch topping out

unborn epoch
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that';s why you use double o-ring wesmart

storm osprey
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lol what?!

unborn epoch
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hell yeah

storm osprey
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ima try it when i get home

unborn epoch
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it worked on my filco and coolermaster boards

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so should work on all cherry switches + clones

storm osprey
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wait youre serious?

unborn epoch
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about the double rings? yes

storm osprey
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how does that even work?

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that wouldnt stop the topping out clack

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it would just raise the keycap right?

unborn epoch
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it doesn't bottom out the switch

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it gets just past the tactile bump

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releasing the switch fast is what makes it loud

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but bottoming out with rings does not make contact with plastic sound

rose eagle
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you mention this after i already pulled all my keys off to clean them last week

storm osprey
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i dont like how short it makes the travel

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the bottom out sound is a lot better, and it does reduce the top out sound

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but id rather just buy silent switches

rose eagle
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interesting, i may not mind the perceived bottom being shorter

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i dont feel like i ever bottom out my keys to begin with

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might end up being easier on my wrists to have a shorter bottom

storm osprey
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yea if youre a touch typer this would be great

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but i press fairly heavy

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i dont mash to the bottom

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but i feel i barely touch the bottom

rose eagle
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i have severe wrist issues so i definitely dont put much force into each key

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the browns require a lot more force than my old membrane kb

storm osprey
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get light switches and do the double o ring thing

rose eagle
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it took a while to get used to putting that much into actuation

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that looks like an absolute nightmare to take the tops off every freaking key lol

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not dismantling my poor k70 like that

storm osprey
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and thats why youre keyboard was caked in dust

rose eagle
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solder? yeaaa and i paid $130 for this beast so it's with me for at least 10 more years

storm osprey
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you dont have to solder anything to add o rings

unborn epoch
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soldering is inevitable if you beat your keyboard like you beat your wife tbh

rose eagle
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threw me off for a sec, i never told you how badly i beat my wife

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i feel like a majority of the sound coming out of my keys is the up

storm osprey
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could be

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if you dont bottom out hard, the topping out would be the loudest

unborn epoch
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ya top is the loudest for me too

rose eagle
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topping out may not occur as much with rings i guess

unborn epoch
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especially the keys with supports (space/shift/enter)

rose eagle
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not as hard

storm osprey
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youll top out, it will just have less travel to get as loud

rose eagle
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hmm, seems no matter how much i press the key down.. the top out sound is just loud

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always

storm osprey
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them silent switches...

rose eagle
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i love my k70 too much 😄

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if the wife doesnt care, i dont!

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mine arent loud enough to ever be picked up on coms

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god i hate those people but thats bad mics too

storm osprey
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silents turn into thuds

unborn epoch
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man

storm osprey
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i have a logitech board that has romer g switches, those are silent too

unborn epoch
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are there any chinese dudes that print (custom) mousepads WITH overlocking?

storm osprey
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wtf are you saying....

unborn epoch
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logitech is POOP. They don't have the pro esports version with detatchable cable and tactile switches

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the sewing on the edges to keep it from breaking apart from the anti slip matt

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is called an overlock

storm osprey
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their mice are super good, keyboard are ehh

unborn epoch
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ya i got a g900

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pretty happy about it

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their pro series keyboard looks pretty decent

storm osprey
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are you talking about their mouse pads?

unborn epoch
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no, g900 is a mouse

storm osprey
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"the sewing on the edges to keep it from breaking apart from the anti slip matt
is called an overlock"

unborn epoch
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does logitech have that

storm osprey
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for their mouse pads?

unborn epoch
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i know razer does and xtrfy

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ya

storm osprey
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ive never owned a logitech pad, but i dont think they do

unborn epoch
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what else would have sewing on the edges?

storm osprey
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lol thats what i was confused about

unborn epoch
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swag ass leather finished keyboard maybe

storm osprey
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you kinda jumped between topics

unborn epoch
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ya my bad

storm osprey
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i was like... a sewed edge kb, hmmmm

unborn epoch
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i was saying logitech is poop because most of their keyboards dont have detachable cables

storm osprey
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was thinking wrist rest or something

unborn epoch
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oh right that could also be an option, but nah.

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i currently have a chinese mousepad which is baller as hell

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i want the same one but with overlock

storm osprey
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yea the pro keyboards are cool, i was gonna try to get one, but i got the aliaz keeb coming soon

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i get my pads from novelkeys, they are smooth though

unborn epoch
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i want kustom prints :C

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ya i know, it's a cable mess sad

rose eagle
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are there no letters on that kb? 😄

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hardcore!

unborn epoch
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ya

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been typing completely blind for quite a few years now 😄

rose eagle
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i dont put my fingers on the right keys so i have to at least see where im at

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to start

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i only really use the left 3 fingers and right 2 to type due to my wrist problems

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i type faster than most people regardless lol

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i dont remember my last test

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just got 104.37 on this with 98.7% accuracy

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missed a fkin letter

unborn epoch
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114 98%

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english is hard

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137 100% when writing the dutch

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i wish i could aim as fast as i could type t bh

prime jasper
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Corsair mouse pad & mouse over here, p. good so far

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I need a new keyboard though

lofty light
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I've got all Logitech gear as the lights sync up and flash lovely colours when I play battlefield 😉

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But seriously, I really like all their gear

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Their keyboards are the only ones other than Corsair that I'd buy tbh

storm osprey
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mice they are the best, kb its good, but not worth their normal asking price, and i buy "audio grade" headphones

rose eagle
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So.. I have yet to BSOD, knock on wood

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iCUE was uninstalled 7pm the 29th

rose eagle
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stupid newegg sent me a 15% off coupon, thats a bummer to throw away

ocean valve
rose eagle
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NO, my 3770k is 100% just as good as anything else out at 1440p!

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amd mobos seem to all suck

prime jasper
slate wave
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I've done it....

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I have ordered a 2080ti

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and no I'm not buying it for ray tracing

prime jasper
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Congrats to you, if you have the money to blow

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If not, wtf are you doing

rigid knoll
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Should I upgrade to 2080 from 1070? thonk

prime jasper
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Fuck no

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Sorry, bit salty towards NVIDIA still

queen field
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wat

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dont u want that ray tracing

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and Nvidia™ DLSS®, Deep Learning Super Sampling

steep gust
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It's not ray tracing

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Its partial ray tracing that is cut down to run in real time on a GPU

DLSS is most likely not going to function how we think, or will be overrated. Supersampling involves rendering at a higher resolution and sampling the image to get a lower resolution, obviously that can't be done on a server rack once and be applied to every scenario to a game.

Its been how long since RTX came out and where are the RTX features? Don't buy into advertising before it even exists

I see RTX going like SLI. Nvidia pushes it for a few years and then it dies a slow death

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@rose eagle There are X470 motherboards that are better than mainstream Z370 / Z390 motherboards.

A lot of Z370 / Z390 motherboards have some issues, while X470 is generally smoother

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The Crosshair 7 Hero on X470 is overkill for Rzyen and is $220. Yet Z370 / Z390 motherboards always have something in that price point that could be better.

Also AMD generally doesnt suffer from more phases = better that happens on Intel (see Z390 godlike)

unborn epoch
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Buying a 1200 card to run at 60fps

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That makes no sense to me

lofty light
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I'm getting the 2080Ti for 120 at 3440x1440

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It might be able to make it on low for BFV

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😕

slate wave
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well I'm upgrade from a 1070

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and yes, I have saved up money for 2 years for it

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not particularly happy about how this generation has come to but, it is a 2x up in raw power

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a 1070 is great for 1080p situations but does not work in 1440p, especially when its a ultrawide

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I know its a splurge and stupid to most but, hey I don't drink or smoke

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let a man spend his money in stupid ways once in a while

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And DLSS kinda

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also I'm an engineer so, Deep learning hardware, it fascinates me

unborn epoch
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Im probably spending some more money on Phillips hue lights

rose eagle
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@steep gust I was just considering 2700x to hold me over till 7nm but I'm not seeing why motherboard to get to make sure it'll be compatible and stable

slate wave
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ah.... I bought a hue bridge a while back and a bunch of "magic hue"s

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turned out those have nothing to do with philips hues

long sphinx
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i knew it that ddr6 memory next to the vrms frying the card

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is that card really $1200 dollars?

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wtf is going on

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the mOre yoU buY thE moRe you saVe

somber tendon
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Wise words from the man himself... NOT

rose eagle
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this doesnt seem to impact 2070 at all, or even 2080?

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i feel like odd times i see some small pixels flicker on my secondary monitor, not during gaming

strong breach
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i have 1 dead pixel GWfroggySadCat

rose eagle
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kill it with fire

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my 55" samsung tv has 3-4 dead pixels, one is white

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from my kid smashing it with something..

strong breach
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oops

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so glad it's far up right tbh

rose eagle
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i have a dead bug in my screen for the last year, its like... 5-6 pixels worth of black =/

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its my secondary monitor so doesnt .. bug me so much

strong breach
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Ba dum tss 🥁

rose eagle
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but i was pissed, it was in there and i tried to thump the monitor to get it to fall to the bottom or get out and it smashed it permanently inside

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what is this 1080 nonsense

strong breach
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1080p GWcmeisterPeepoLove

rose eagle
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1440p master race!

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dont do it though, you cant unsee it

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blinks slowly

strong breach
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Spoil yourself with 144hz

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do it

rose eagle
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i have two 27" so 1440p is why

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24" you can prob get away with 1080

long sphinx
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i played with a 27" and its too wide, lost awareness

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i prefer 24" 1080p supersampled to 2560 like i do in bf1

rose eagle
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you play with monitors closer than arm stretch away?

long sphinx
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yes on a desktop

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55cm ish

rose eagle
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prob play with outstretched + 4in, not sure typical human reach 😄

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yea i dont think many games offer that res sampling do they?

long sphinx
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its aa

rose eagle
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so you end up with the same perf requirements as 1440p

long sphinx
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yes but much smoother image and perfect fit for gaming on a desktop

rose eagle
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what do you mean by smoother image?

long sphinx
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27" is for multi window use

rose eagle
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eh i mean, to each their own i guess hehe, some people play on freakin 65" TV 😄

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i havent tried 24 in ages

long sphinx
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and end up on the bottom of the scoreboard

rose eagle
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haha

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play in windowed! 😄

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i could to simulate 24" i guess

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just to try to see the diff

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i cant do it

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lol

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need moar pixels to see people far away!

queen field
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weirdos with their 1080p

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hides 1080p, pretends to own an 1440p screen

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i'll gladly take up more ppi than higher refresh rate~~, human eye can only see 60hz tbh~~. I'll oc the monitor and hope to even reach 75hz xdddd

rose eagle
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my human eyes can 100% see 90+ fps

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you cant unsee it, the input handling is important

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its just an overall smoother experience whether its raw visual or not, its the feels

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i mean even your mouse moves around in windows smoother on a 144hz screen

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ive got a 27" 144hz next to a 27" 60hz

unborn epoch
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duo monitor experience is annoying if different resolutions

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but that's me

rose eagle
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ok i just moved my borderless from 60hz to 144hz and its unplayable to do it on my 60hz

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you wont understand til you buy a 144hz monitor ;P

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you should be able to score two Dell S2716 for $350 ea black friday

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zero need to blow $600

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#1 chosen 27" on pcpartpicker

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its a fkin solid as hell monitor, i love it.. got it for $350 last black friday

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which is just the dumbest steal ever

storm osprey
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@plain vessel yea its pretty hard to recommend anything beyond the dell monitor majic is talking about

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i have it, and i know a lot of people that have had it, and someo of them having "better" monitors than the dell

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ehh, i always felt like AOC was too off brand

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rog is good, but imo overpriced

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yea the dell looks like a standard monitor, but its performance is fantastic

rose eagle
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the Dell to me is amazing looking

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bevel is like 4mm on all but bottom

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i guess maybe thats all monitors these days dunno 😄

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my 2013 Asus is fkin massive bevel wise compared to my Dell

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i honestly wouldnt want it any smaller, it would blend in to the dang wall which would be distracting

sick marsh
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hey guys what proccessor would be a cheap ugprade to my i3-8100? i have an intel compatible board so i guess some kind of i5? my budget is limited tho

agile rain
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👀

rose eagle
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hm 4c4t... anything with 4c8t or 6c6t would be an upgrade for BF

storm osprey
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we need budget really though

agile rain
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Intel? Budget? LUL

storm osprey
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i mean, the i5 line is usually the sweet spot

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even though ryzen is better on a budget

agile rain
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I has Ryzen 1600 👌

steep root
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BfV is supposed to work well with 6 cores isnt it?

storm osprey
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recommended is 4c8t so that is pretty comparable to 6c6t

plush smelt
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so a 8400 is the sweetspot?

storm osprey
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for intel yes

steep root
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I mean

storm osprey
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ryzen is 2600

steep root
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a 8700k would be the sweetspot for no budget

storm osprey
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well no budget would be 9900k

agile rain
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2600 isn't that much better than a 1600 👀

plush smelt
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is there a real diference while gaming 1080p 60 fps from 8400 to i7 8700?

storm osprey
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for 1080p?

plush smelt
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paired with an 1060 6gb?

storm osprey
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there will be a difference

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but would it be worth it is the real question

steep root
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I9

agile rain
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Ive got dat 1060 6gb too happy

storm osprey
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yea 2600 is like 10% better, but prices last time i checked they were the same

agile rain
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Same 👀

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Weird

plush smelt
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i current have a 6400 and 1060 6gb

agile rain
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6400 👀

plush smelt
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thinking in up it to a 8400 or 8700 (non-k)

storm osprey
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2600 costs 160, 1600 is 155

plush smelt
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i'm current having too many frame drops on BF1

storm osprey
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what is the price difference for 6400 vs 8400

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what i normally do is youtube "6400 vs 8400 with gtx 1060 6gb" and there are usually results

rose eagle
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my 4c8t 2012 i7 is pretty on par with most stuff out, so for Frostbite right now you just need (12)

storm osprey
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look at those, and see if the price difference is worth it to you

rose eagle
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i wish there was a term for cores plus threads

agile rain
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I plan to do a Ryzen ITX build with my old 960 that is sitting in a box

plush smelt
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will the i7 8700 overkill my 1060 6gb?

rose eagle
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prob not, 1080p can take all the help it can get

storm osprey
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its not what i consider to be the same "tier" of hardware

sick marsh
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sorry for late reply my budget would be kind of around 300-400 euro

rose eagle
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8700k is a good future proofing cpu imo

sick marsh
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i have 8gb of ram and a gtx1060 3gb aswell

rose eagle
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then yo ucan grab whatever next gen is after RTX

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8gb isnt great

sick marsh
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yeah i know that it made rust and frostpunk nearly shit themselves

storm osprey
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i3 budget, i5 mid, i7 high end
gtx 1050/1050ti/1060 3gb budget, 1060 6gb/1070/1070ti mid range, and the rest high end

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thats how i do builds

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for gaming

sick marsh
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aight i see, i am satisifed with the 1060 3gb so far i love it coming from an intel hd, but the cpu sturggles sometimes

storm osprey
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for gpu you can go up a tier

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so im fine with an i5 and a 1080 ti

sick marsh
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ik but i'd prioritise cpu first

rose eagle
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my 3770k OCd is prob the perfect cpu for my 2070 and that makes me sad

storm osprey
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but it doesnt make sense to do an i7 and a 1060 6gb imo

plush smelt
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whats your i5 @storm osprey ?

storm osprey
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i have a 4th gen i7

rose eagle
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i5 4c4t is bad

storm osprey
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with a gtx 1080

plush smelt
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ah ok

rose eagle
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anything 4c4t is bad for BF

sick marsh
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if i work one month of summer warehouse job i get around 700-800 euro, depends on overtime

rose eagle
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your min frames will suffer horribly

sick marsh
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so whats the best upgrade for that if the 300 of that is already going for a guitar amp

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so like 400-500 remains

storm osprey
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you can get an i5 easily

plush smelt
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your min frames will suffer horribly thats what's happening to me

rose eagle
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i dunno how much sht is in euro

sick marsh
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okay cool thats what im planning on

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basically dollars

rose eagle
#

its not just a direct conversion of usd to euro

sick marsh
#

small differnce

rose eagle
#

arent priced inflated as well?

#

8700k is $370 usd

storm osprey
#

but 1060 3gb is also going to struggle because of vram

sick marsh
#

500 euro is 570 dollars

plush smelt
#

i'm from brazil, anything here is too expensive

rose eagle
#

whoa we got two diff 1060 discussions.. one guy had 6gb?

sick marsh
#

shit dude idk

#

i have 3gb

rose eagle
#

oof

plush smelt
#

i'm with 1060 6gb

rose eagle
#

thatll hang in at 60fps lower settings

#

with a good cpu..

storm osprey
#

3gb is fine as long as you dont use too much vram

plush smelt
#

the problem is my cpu is bottlenecking my gpu

storm osprey
#

(my 2nd build is 1060 3gb)

plush smelt
#

100% cpu most of the time

#

and gpu on 60~70%

sick marsh
#

rn i can run ultra but it often gets the orange frame thingy up which means like 40-50 fps

#

i blame the cpu tho

plush smelt
#

just for battlefield

#

another games run smooth

rose eagle
#

Frostbite... driving the economy

storm osprey
#

@sick marsh check vram usage in settings, if you are using too much vram that could be the problems

rose eagle
#

Frostbite engine cost me $550

#

i play rocket league other than V coming out so i def didnt need a new gpu lol

storm osprey
#

rocket leaaague

rose eagle
#

goooooooooooalll

plush smelt
#

lucioball > rocket league Kappa

sick marsh
#

okay i will check the usage next time i fire it up

storm osprey
#

hey. i love overwatch, but rocket league >>>>>>>>> lucio ball

sick marsh
#

you bought frostbite engine?

#

or did something fly over my head

storm osprey
#

he bought a rtx 2070 because he wasnt getting good fps at 1440p with his old gpu

rose eagle
#

lawls

#

doubt theyd even sell rights to use it for $100 mil

sick marsh
#

hahah ooh i see

#

i see but then i dont understand like some engines used by big studios are available to purchase to everyone arent they why is the frostbite engine so expensive

#

or did i just mix everything up

rose eagle
#

DICE > *

#

Frostbite is by far the best FPS engine known to man

storm osprey
#

idk anything about engines or how companies go around letting others use their engine

rose eagle
#

cant be letting indie studios make games off it

#

they'd prob produce something better 😄

#

hides

storm osprey
#

but something like unreal engine is built for other peoples use

rose eagle
#

i mean yea Unreal kinda died out though

storm osprey
#

idk why some companies dont let others use theirs

#

EU4 is used in a lot of games

#

and a SHIT load of indie games

rose eagle
#

UT

#

the actual game, the engine has been publicly avail for eeeons

storm osprey
#

oh sorry didnt know you were talking about the game

#

and the game is dead

rose eagle
#

i cant recall when unreal was made avail to purchase

#

like 10 years ago is when it became more mainstream

#

in the unreal tournament days you could use the engine but not in the same way people do today

sick marsh
#

UE is what i mean exactly

rose eagle
#

i wish amd could prove their 7nm cpu's would beat a 9700k

#

there's a -34% chance

#

"Tests have revealed that the upcoming CPUs are faster than the i7-8700K from Intel, but are very unstable and crash very often at the moment."

#

well then

plush smelt
#

and de memory freq

#

2133mhz is good?

rose eagle
#

wut

prime jasper
#

so far this CPUs are only test samples and not finished products so it is normal that they are not stable

rose eagle
#

it says theres no guarantee they will be AM4

plush smelt
#

memory ram frequency for BF V

#

2133mhz is good enough?

rose eagle
#

that would depend on your board

prime jasper
#

might be possible since there are rumors saying that there will be more than 8 cores for the mainstream platform

rose eagle
#

it should have set it automatic for you

#

feels unsafe to buy anything at the moment, guess black friday is out

#

not that 7nm will honestly bring that much to the table

#

2700x is 8c16t but still isnt anything to write home about

prime jasper
#

No one knows we will have to wait

rose eagle
#

good streamer cpu

#

nah it wont be shit 😄

#

nothing in the cpu department is going to be huge perf gains anymore

prime jasper
#

It will not be bad for sure however no one knows how fast the new AMDs are going to be

rose eagle
#

8700k prob good til 2024

#

gaming will continue to be 144hz 144fps sweet spot, so even if you can push 200fps theres no reason to eat that much CPU

prime jasper
#

If they have not reinvented the wheel by then sure

rose eagle
#

yea i mean of course who knows what tech has in store.. but the next series for both amd and intel seem to just be normal core and thread boosts

#

cores, threads, ghz, squeeze more out

prime jasper
#

However I think that until 2024 the i-series from Intel will have come to an end. I think that probably around 2020 or 2021 there will be a completely new architecture

#

I mean the i-series has reached its peak already. There are only little gains to be made left. Only a new architecture can give us some huge gains again

rose eagle
#

are many games actually utilizing more than 8 threads at the moment?

#

my 4c8t 3770k is twiddling its thumbs waiting to be replaced and i have means to but this nasty ass 2012 motherboard has to sit in my case since i cant find any reason to upgrade

#

(brown) motherboard

#

i just got a nice new case and can see everything inside 😄

prime jasper
#

So far there are only a handful of those games but Battlefield is one of those. But since most people still only have 4 cores this will not change to quickly.

#

My PC is powerful but also not the most beautiful

#

That's why I do not have a case having a glass side-panel

storm osprey
#

lol, its 95% about the performance

prime jasper
#

That is true - also I do not like all that RGB stuff out there

storm osprey
#

i like it in certain areas

#

my tower only has an orange light

prime jasper
#

I want a good and stable framerate, no freezing, good visual quality and a crisp sound 😃

storm osprey
#

i want my hardware to not get in the way of my performance

#

not that im pro, but i dont want to die and be "well if this hardware was better it wouldnt have done this and kill me"

prime jasper
#

I can understand you. Well, I have always rather cared about the crude performance. If you want to have some beautiful-looking hardware you have to pay too much extra in my opinion

rose eagle
#

i really only care if my min fps is a problem on 4c8t but i cant find any reason it is, i never feel slowdowns really

prime jasper
#

However I think my PC looks good because I know everything about the hardware I have installed and all the work that has gone into my rig. That's why I think my PC is beautiful at least for me it is 😄

rose eagle
#

this new meshify is hot sex

#

i mean compared to my full tower enclosed metal case of doom

prime jasper
#

Fractal produces some good cases. I have got the Define R5 and I am contented with it

storm osprey
#

i have the define c

#

fractal club here

prime jasper
#

Also we probably all have Nvidia cards and Intel CPUs I bet 😃

storm osprey
#

lol well thats like 70% of people xD

rose eagle
#

at least

#

;P

storm osprey
#

im probably going ryzen next year though

rose eagle
#

pff

#

you do something besides gaming?

storm osprey
#

ill start streaming if i dont drop frames

#

i started streaming but on my 4c8t cpu i dropped too many frames

prime jasper
#

Well I thought about Vega but back then it was too expensive for its performance and also it needs a lot of power. And since I already had a G-Sync monitor the decision was easy

#

I only game on my rig my internet would be too bad for streaming

storm osprey
#

as of now nvidia is really the obvious choice for gpu

rose eagle
#

the gsync freesync thing really locks you in

#

monitors aint cheap

storm osprey
#

no, but i bought gsync knowing at high end nvidia is where its at

rose eagle
#

i plan on keeping this Dell for 6+ years so i wont be moving off nvidia any time soon even if amd came around to match perf for cheaper

prime jasper
#

however I always say that a good freesync monitor is pretty much the same in price. Of course you can get a cheap one but then it probably has a freesync-range between 40-50 fps or such jokes. If you want a good one with a wide freesync-range that is located in a senseful area of the framerate-band you would also have to pay a lot 😃

rose eagle
#

amd shit, always with the caveats ;D

#

the stupid gaming/creator mode or things for the 2700x are enough to make me just ignore it

#

just put something out that works great always, i dont want to have to think

prime jasper
#

Isn't that gaming mode rather meant for Threadripper CPUs?

#

Well I have already thought about a Ryzen however it would not make sense for me. It is just because I would really like to test all hardware 😄

#

I think if money was not an issue for me then I would probably buy every piece of new hardware just to test and configurate systems for fun.

rose eagle
#

i thought about a 2600 to hold me over til 7nm but i didnt like the reviews of amd motherboards

#

and i bet it would have worse perf than my 3770k

#

Steam survey doesnt seem to keep actual processors

#

just shows 83.46% Intel

#

16.52% AMD 😛

#

who are these witchcraft .02%

sick marsh
#

offbrand chinese silicon squares

rose eagle
#

id like to know who will get hit by tariffs

#

ram, cpu, mobo makers

#

if Kraft foods stock shoots up like $5 itll pay for half my upgrade and then sell my current setup for $300, good to go!

red ingot
#

When is 7mm supposed to come out btw? 2019 right?

storm osprey
#

yea 2019

#

at least announced 2019

unborn epoch
#

7mm OMEGALUL

#

ur diCC

storm osprey
#

i wish

red ingot
#

😮

#

Hopefully released 2019..

storm osprey
#

@unborn epoch hallow knight?!

unborn epoch
#

no 😦

#

i dont want to play any game

red ingot
#

Really wanna upgrade but I dont if 7mm is coming out soon

unborn epoch
#

all games i look at look boring

#

i only want bfv and a handy

red ingot
#

Bfv and a blowie for me

storm osprey
#

alrighty hallow knight goes up for grabs

rose eagle
#

whats the difference between 4c8t and 6c6t for processing something like Frostbite's engine?

rose eagle
#

looks like multi-threaded perf on 6c6t blows away 4c8t

storm osprey
#

hmm thats good to know

#

at 1080p though?

rose eagle
#

just in general for handling operations

#

HT doesnt equal 1 physical core by any shot

#

its relatively close but when comparing 4c8t to 6c6t i think the difference is substantial to consider on my end.. im looking at the i5 8400 benchmarks right now to try to understand my cpus perf compared to 8700k etc

storm osprey
#

oh no, i always thought of them as like 15% of an actual core

rose eagle
#

the i5 8400 is a 4ghz 6c6t vs my 3.9ghz 4c8t

#

so if i consider them even equals and then go look at 1440p performance, the 8400 min frames does suffer in 1440p in many scenarios

#

does it seem wrong to use that as a baseline to try to see where my cpu is?

storm osprey
#

min frames?

rose eagle
#

the 8400

#

like you said its almost impossible to find 3770k vs 8700k etc or piece together the puzzle

#

so im trying to find a newer cpu that would be more in line with mine

#

if anything, im seeing the i5 8400 would be an upgrade

storm osprey
#

it should be an upgrade, but not worth the price of a mb, cpu, and ram

rose eagle
#

actually base freq, whats that?

#

vs max turbo

#

the 8400 vs 8600k base freq max turbo is 2.8-4 vs 3.6-4.3

#

only 300mhz on boost but 800mhz "base freq"

#

so i was only comparing high end freq.. but 8600k well outperforms 8400

storm osprey
#

im not entirely sure, if i had to guess its like how much freq you can get with this much power, but you CAN get this much but it will draw much more power

rose eagle
#

my 3770k is 3.5-3.9 so really tight

#

that 8400 is odd..

#

throws down mental notepad not getting anywhere again

#

bet my 3770k is closer to an 8600k in perf then

storm osprey
#

bang for buck intel cpu right there

rose eagle
#

fk bang! gimmie ze perf! lol

storm osprey
#

9900k

rose eagle
#

ok well thats actually crazy cause 9700k meets or beats it for gaming ;D

storm osprey
#

i assume it has higher base freq

rose eagle
#

9700k was supposed to be 8700k price, supply is being hogshanked and creating inflation of price

#

8c8t vs 6c12t is a toughy but i think the 8c8t would still win out in threaded ops

storm osprey
#

for gaming i would think that a 6c with highest freq would be best

#

broad generalizing

rose eagle
#

but generally true yea

#

thats why i was considering 9700k for more future proofing

#

the way i see it, socket 1151 is prob dead after this gen so there will be no upgrade path at all

#

9900k is the last stone and it was a dud

#

9700k runs quite cool though

storm osprey
#

their new soldering method

rose eagle
#

i see it performing like the 3770k.. beast mode for 6 years+

#

yea, i would wager like 10% per thread for HT, some guy ran some good tests

#

4c4t vs 4c8t saw 40% or so

storm osprey
#

i think since 3770k (other than aMD FX CPUS) most cpus are gonna last a long time

rose eagle
#

esp as we keep pushing graphics and keep FPS under 144

#

theres really no reason at all to ever go higher

storm osprey
#

i want to try 200+ hz though, see if i can tell a difference

rose eagle
#

165?

storm osprey
#

ive tried 165

rose eagle
#

haha yea i mean, we prob never thought > 60 was necessary at some point 😄

#

ive got a nice asus 1440p 27 and the dell and i did windowed full screen and slung it over to the Asus today on BF1

#

rip 60hz

#

it was horrific

storm osprey
#

yea its weird

rose eagle
#

i wish everyone knew what gsync 144hz felt like

storm osprey
#

i hate when i drop under 100fps in a game and im like "eww what are my fps"

rose eagle
#

wait no, i need more people to shoot on 60hz

storm osprey
#

and its like 80...

#

and i have gsync

#

so im just spoiled

rose eagle
#

i dont exactly feel that or i miss it

#

but i have the 2070 so i may have tighter FPS

#

someone on a 1080Ti didnt seem to have substantially better min fps over me

#

just high

#

avg

#

which.. isnt necessarily a good thing

#

id take 80-120 vs 90-150 etc

storm osprey
#

i have fps counters on everything

rose eagle
#

14 days till FRAFS test!!

#

im gonna need someone on a 1080Ti to squad and follow exactly for 30s 😄

#

to record 30s of fraps fps same settings and then run it through FRAFS

#

this is very important life work!

#

they should build mobos with cpu on bottom of board so that any leaks would be at the front of the case or straight down not all over your GPU

#

with water coolin

storm osprey
#

or, they could make cases that turn it sideways

rose eagle
#

yea i guess i could flip my case on its head 😄

#

no top vent

#

but then the 2070 led wouldnt read right!!!

#

all mobo makers gotta change

storm osprey
#

for my front room build, i have my gpus fans facing the the two front instake fans

rose eagle
#

"Processor Base Frequency describes the rate at which the processor's transistors open and close. The processor base frequency is the operating point where TDP is defined. Frequency is measured in gigahertz (GHz), or billion cycles per second."

#

Max turbo frequency is the maximum single core frequency at which the processor is capable of operating using Intel® Turbo Boost Technology and, if present, Intel® Thermal Velocity Boost. Frequency is measured in gigahertz (GHz), or billion cycles per second.

#

ok so boost is useless when not 1 core?

#

i mean is severely degraded

storm osprey
#

hmm i wonder

#

thats stupid though xD

rose eagle
#

"Boost is automatic.
That 4.7ghz max speed is single core turbo for if only a single core was stressed substantially.

Under gaming load with more than 4 cores stressed turbo is 4.3/4.4ghz generally."

#

feeeeeeeeeeeeek

storm osprey
#

does it scale? say only 2 cores are being used, does it "split" the max between the two?

rose eagle
#

ok my cpu is beast 😄

#

so base clock is kinda insanely important

winged tapir
#

Will be around this for me next year

#

Will see what’s new around

#

But that’s what I plan to buy

#

1050W

#

Are you crazy

#

Oof

storm osprey
#

my god

winged tapir
#

You will never need that

prime jasper
#

That = my build just about

#

And I run it on a 600w PSU

winged tapir
#

Yep

#

600 should be more than enough

prime jasper
#

Wtf do you need 1050w for

storm osprey
#

god

winged tapir
#

I want a new pc 😦

#

Need to save some money I guess

prime jasper
#

I need more RAM & a new SSD, keyboard, & a 2nd monitor

#

Wew

#

I have like $500ish of upgrades left to do

#

Just going to get a cheap 1080p monitor for my 2nd one as well, idec if its 60hz, just something I can look at Discord on or Twitch chat, while playing

storm osprey
#

ram prices seem steady, but ssd prices are going to keep dropping

#

for a keeb i recommend GMMK, you can easily swap out switches if you want to

rose eagle
#

ugh i just sold my 970 to someone and he claims it wont post, 4k monitor.. i got no ideas

#

prob zapped it with electricity

rose eagle
#

meh works fine on a 1080p, no idea about 4k crap

#

should be plug and play

#

friends dont let friends buy 4k

unborn epoch
#

Same cable?

#

My 970 does a funny thing with my new monitor and certain cables. It refuses to power on

#

@rose eagle

rose eagle
#

yea same

unborn epoch
#

Try different dp cable

rose eagle
#

tried hdmi

#

just have 1 dp

unborn epoch
#

Did it work?

rose eagle
#

it powers on a diff monitor so wtf

#

no

unborn epoch
#

Yeah that happens to me roo

#

Did 4k monitor work with hdmi?

rose eagle
#

nope..

#

the old 760 does though no problem

#

dropped in 970.. nothin on screen

#

plug in crap 1080p monitor, works fine

#

windows drivers cant matter here surely

#

it should POST..

#

regardless of drivers

unborn epoch
#

Step back

#

Was the machine running when you switched to 4k monitor?

rose eagle
#

newp, pulled 970, put in 760.. boots fine, pulled back out.. put in 970, nothin

#

it does power on and spin fans and runs the lower res monitor but the 4k if you plug it in says no signal

#

not out of range or anything

unborn epoch
#

With hdmi or dp

#

Im confused since you said no post

rose eagle
#

dp

unborn epoch
#

That's different from screen displaying nothing

rose eagle
#

wtf, if its on.. in windows, plug into 1080 and move the dport to 4k it stays on lol

#

but a reboot.. poof

unborn epoch
#

Yes

queen field
#

R the auxillary power connected and do they have 2 plugs or just single? @rose eagle

rose eagle
#

the 970? its just a single 8 pin

unborn epoch
#

The problem for me was the type of dp cable used

#

One comes with an extra wired pin. Those don't work straight away.

#

You have to unplug dp start pc and plug in dp

queen field
#

If above doesn't work, do give this a try, boot to BIOS and set display output as PCIE instead of AUTO @rose eagle

rose eagle
#

it does have extra pin

#

wtf is that

#

so it wasnt the act of booting to the crap monitor first

#

it was simply the act of moving it

#

or basically booting the whole pc first and then plugging it in..

unborn epoch
#

Yes

rose eagle
#

so need a whole new DP cable and how the hlel you get the right one? lol

#

is that like an older dp cable or just weird?

queen field
#

What's the extra pin for 😮

unborn epoch
#

I looked for one with the missing pin LUL

#

I knew but forgot. I solved this issue 2 years ago

rose eagle
#

which pin?

#

in the mid somewhere or sides?

queen field
#

Weird display port, glad I'm on a 1 dollar hdmi😬

steep gust
#

Walmart has displayport cables

unborn epoch
#

I'd have to look it up

rose eagle
#

its weird the hdmi didnt work though?

unborn epoch
#

Hdmi is probably shit. I don't know

#

Never tried hdmi on my 970

queen field
#

Why so

#

Both are digital

#

Unless you're talking about vga

unborn epoch
#

Limited bandwidth

queen field
#

Er

#

I leave that to you now

unborn epoch
#

Also gsync

rose eagle
#

older hdmi wont even do 4k

#

but this is 2.0

#

errrrr

unborn epoch
#

Does 970 even have 2.0 port?

rose eagle
#

yes............?

#

haha i think so

lofty light
#

HDMI cables can be confusing as they Normally don't label if they're 2.0 or under

#

Ports too

unborn epoch
#

No idea. I only cared for dp

lofty light
#

Just use DVI-D 😉

unborn epoch
#

But muh gsync 144hz 1440p

lofty light
#

You're pretty much stuck with DP for that

#

My monitor has HDMI and DP input but only the DP gets more than 60hz as its massive

unborn epoch
#

Ya

rose eagle
#

yea i got hdmi to my 1440p 60hz now

#

no more dvi

#

this 2070 doesnt even have dvi

#

i was shocked the hdmi did 1440p

#

i could never get my 970 working with it

unborn epoch
#

Ok the extra pin is power related

#

Reading wiki and searching the internet on my phone is hard

#

iirc my cable has 19 pins

#

The cable that causes problems had 20

#

Should be missing a pin on the side somewhere

#

Pin 20

rose eagle
#

the entire hole is missing? lol

#

or inside?

unborn epoch
#

There is a pin missing yes

languid acorn
#

giggity

rose eagle
#

the hole is there but no pin inside?

#

giggity giggity

unborn epoch
#

Yep

rose eagle
#

😄

unborn epoch
#

Do there if still room for a pin

#

Luckily otherwise you'd destroy the connector on gpu/ monitor side

rose eagle
#

this may be a lost cause

#

i never had issues with the 970 but no idea why a 4k monitor or diff monitor would cause issues

unborn epoch
#

Same

#

Old 1080p monitor worked fine, new monitor caused problems

rose eagle
#

just dont understand why a 760 would work but 970 wont

unborn epoch
#

Probably not respecting the standard

rose eagle
#

the asus card?

#

its prob the LG monitor

#

works fine on my Dell

#

i mean clearly its the monitor if dport works fine to a diff monitor?

#

the 4k monitor

unborn epoch
#

Could be. Im not sure who is not respecting the standard

#

I also have yet to test the 20 pin cables with my 1080ti

#

But im lazy. It works

#

And beautifully so

prime jasper
#

Run 4k on an integrated 520

queen field
#

@prime jasper stop, you're making me come

rigid knoll
#

Finally the ISP managed to get their shit together, and the new connection is working. +35Mbit/s bump to speed, and 20ms shaved off from the ping to BF1 servers POGGERS

unborn epoch
#

Nothing a shoebox can't fix

#

What GPU are you running?

#

niiice

#

I'll have you on my team on nov9th

lofty light
#

I'm hoping I get my 2080ti before the 9th

rose eagle
#

i didnt know there was an 860 m.2

#

can get a 500gb 860evo m.2 right now for $93 from newegg....

#

its double =/

#

almost

#

but honestly.. with this new case, m.2 died for me

#

nothing uses that speed, i just wanted for cosmetics

#

all my SSDs are on the back now

#

no drive bays is amazing, i got room for 1 more on the back so 250 + 500 + 500 would be perfect

#

i retired my 3.5 drive when i got my new case even though there's slots under the back to connect it

#

z390 is new right? almost too new?

#

mobos

#

theres 5 boards for z370 that are high sellers, so confusing

sick marsh
#

Kind of a retarded question bot how much does the motherboard affect the performance of my graphics card and cpu?

#

Cause i have some cheap shit and then a gtx1060 on it

rose eagle
#

not enough to care about

#

most are onboard features like m.2, wifi, usb ports

#

sli

#

overclockability

#

oh yea and raid

#

so basically nothing if you dont know what they are ;D

#

who the hell runs raid anymore lol

sick marsh
#

I know about thid stuff, except raid

rose eagle
#

before 10k drives SCSI was the only way to get higher end drive perf

sick marsh
#

This*

rose eagle
#

now with SSD its 100% moot point

#

unless you want redundancy mirror

sick marsh
#

And it doesnt even support wifi, had ti buy an usb lol

rose eagle
#

well, most boards do not have on board wifi

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anyone gaming should not be on wifi

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😉

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run that cable in the wall ye lazy bastage

sick marsh
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It cant be done lol the house is 60 years old

rose eagle
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it can always be done!

sick marsh
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I tried everything but i settled for a range extender and an usb wifi card

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Mainly because of budget

rose eagle
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ethernet over power has gotten more stable, i bet better than wifi

sick marsh
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What is ethernet over power

sick marsh
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Damn wtf

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Nice lok

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Lol*

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I hope they have it for euro outlets

rose eagle
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wow they got mu-mimo support now

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ill remember this in 5 years for the kid

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i also hate running ethernet

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i almost lost the ability to have kids last time i was in the attic

sick marsh
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Lol what happened

rose eagle
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but i was also drinking and wearing flip flops, put foot through ceiling after slipping off a beam

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put a 6-8in bruise on my inner thigh

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almost racked myself

prime jasper
sick marsh
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Holy shit lol are you fine?

rose eagle
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i dunno wtf he on, too excited for me 😄

sick marsh
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I was asking if you're fine dude you feel through your attic hahahah

rose eagle
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oh lol well, yea

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i had a kid after that so

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that was a fun patch job i had to do on the ceiling though

prime jasper
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i have to go. but the test is to find the real latency of games using csgo as reference for precise inout lag, from the mouse button pressing to the actual action appearing on the pc screen happening. he promised test vsync with 60hz too. not just freesync input lag. one forum user asked to sell the testing device to him so he can do a gsync+nvidia gsync comparison

rose eagle
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is there a freesync "issue" ? if theres a workaround

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vsync input lag is horrific

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i think most people are probably uneducated about what g/free sync does

prime jasper
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he's planning to test that too

rose eagle
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and how having a 144hz monitor helps input lag insanely

prime jasper
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well in fact stipena knows what they do

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he's aiming for exact numbers of input lag

prime jasper
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that's tested refering monitor only

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he tests-refering to the separate device not include ;ag input while recording with a software etc.

rose eagle
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theres a debate whether you should use g/free if your fps is over 144

prime jasper
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on monitor you see the lag inout of the screen

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due to the software which also increases it-so the test ain't fully accurate with results you posted.

rose eagle
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now that i have 144hz id like to see if a 240hz does anything at all visually even at 140fps

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i have side by side 60 and 144hz 1440p monitors and moving the game from one to the other is horrific, i bet 240hz isnt as big a jump from 144 though

prime jasper
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count in mouse lag input on the real situations-the monitor's inout+ mouse/keyboard, network lag and you get exact number-software isn't accurate

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there is video on thread recorded doing the action repeated at least 5times each to test it properly. also he uses his own built device for the test which is software free.

lofty light
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Isn't it exponentially harder to notice the frame rate when it gets higher?

prime jasper
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yep.

rose eagle
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yea

prime jasper
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thats why he made the device

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to get the actual result.

rose eagle
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60 > 120 is very easy to notice, but since i only have 144hz i cant test 144 > 200

prime jasper
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@rose eagle you see the result of inout lag of the screen

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not the lag input you get from mouse sumed up.

rose eagle
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yea but what can you really "FEEL" ;D

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at 10ms you're gettin kinda crazy

prime jasper
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it's not about feelings 😃

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it's about the exact number

rose eagle
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i mean thats all that matters, if you can feel the difference

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if you output im getting 5ms vs 10ms "double" but i cant feel it, one wouldnt care

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there will be a point in technology where we can no l onger feel it

rose eagle
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i mean we all know vsync is satan 😄

prime jasper
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actual numbers of input lag using freesync. he plans get vsync results-user asked sell the device to make it gsync

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so it'll be known for vsync vs freesync vs gsync

rose eagle
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actually.. a ton of people do not realize what vsync is doing to input

prime jasper
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not sponsored results

rose eagle
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sure you remove tearing but at the huge cost of input latency

prime jasper
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it's about "NUMBERS"

rose eagle
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id sadly rather have some tearing occasionally if i didnt have gsync

prime jasper
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he needs actual numbers

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of every technology

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also fast sync

rose eagle
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this doesnt have nvidia's FastSync technology though

lofty light
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Yeah tbh I think gsync helped me immensely

rose eagle
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yeh

prime jasper
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it'll have

rose eagle
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good deal

prime jasper
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he plans sell the device

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or borrows to the 1080/ti user

rose eagle
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144 to 240 really isnt a huge diff

prime jasper
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" Stipena wrote: ↑
2018-10-26 22:36
Tu man geriau, kol lauki, papasakok kaip tikrini monitoriaus latency? 😄

Laukiu, kad padarytum ir man parduotum jei kaina bus įkandama. Monitorių latency netestuojama, nes nėra su kuo. Akis testatorius yra :D"

rose eagle
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oops this is fast sync

prime jasper
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katonas asked him to sell the device

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"
Laukiu, kad padarytum ir man parduotum jei kaina bus įkandama. Monitorių latency netestuojama, nes nėra su kuo. " -sell me please.

rose eagle
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there thats better

prime jasper
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it used some recorder as elgato/shadowplay?

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if he did-it still gives extra lag input, not fully accurate tbh.

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@rose eagle i promise i'll post around the thread with next technology score tests. but no actual software influence.

rose eagle
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no he actually tested with raw video capture and hardware attached to the mouse with a 1000fps camera 😄

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$$$$

prime jasper
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his smartphone became recording device-zero lag input

rose eagle
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not for public use

prime jasper
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with 280fps camera

rose eagle
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yea this guy on blurbusters has some cash haha

prime jasper
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the review isn't sponsored, so the results are completely fair-stipena is enthusiast

rose eagle
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no idea how much 1000fps camera costs

prime jasper
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but in fact, he still works in it industry, as a programmer

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the thread s his own opportunity which wasn't paid.

rose eagle
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oh cool only like $3-5k

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😄

prime jasper
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i mean srslly

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he wasnt paid at all

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he receives nothing from this

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and hardware cash comes from??

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MINING?

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he has solid job, on freetime mines, so as katonas

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atm on his mining rig are 2x 470/480's. katonas mines on 1080s 3x if im correct.

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moderator of forum

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sec

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the reviews are posted directly as forum thread-arent sponsored

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they have a news lounge which is also sponsored.

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(to review).so they separate personal cost reviews and paid ones.

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m.2 SSD fight

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lithuanian

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includes synthetics tests

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he was thinking about that but alot of reviews are coming from international sites

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so made it lithuanian one-own reviews.

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they still refers resharing news from western countries-phone's market, fines etc.

rose eagle
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wait, gsync acts like vsync when over the monitor's refresh rate?

prime jasper
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sponsored by gearvest, edifie r, ebyeer etc

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"partneriai" means partners-the companies sponsors them

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they often receive gear from them, also from noctua

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yeh i understood.

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but the results should be the point right?

unborn epoch
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don't you mine 24/7?

prime jasper
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he does make a mining system while he's at work.