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rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:15 PM

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they would use the same amount of elec, your house bill etc?

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mm..

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nickle and diming budget is all im addressing

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:16 PM

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there's a handy site that does calculations for you

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:16 PM

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we got a pool and that fkd the elec bill

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:17 PM

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just pee in it more often

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keeps the heating cost down

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:17 PM

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sweet ill get all the neighbors to participate

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:17 PM

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free energy'

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:18 PM

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what if i put 2 quieter fans on the 212 evo vs the 82cfm one? like two 50 cfms

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i guess one would blow in and one take off?

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zip tie and split the PWM slot to 2

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:19 PM

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dual fan does work but doesn't have a great effect

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:19 PM

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actually i think this board has 2 cpu fan ports

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:19 PM

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get a better fan that delivers more pressure

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:19 PM

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i guess i can just throttle this fan to see what a 50 cfm would do..

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:19 PM

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or just clock down a little if you dont want your pc to be a firepit

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:19 PM

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adding a 2nd is more like +20% ?

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:20 PM

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less

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:20 PM

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that defeats the purpose of hanging onto this old 3770k beasty 😄

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honestly the OC isnt even a huge temp raiser

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:20 PM

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100mhz wont affect you much but will take down temperature by a shitton

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:20 PM

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the bitch ran like 70c stock cooler non OC

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:20 PM

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ya stock

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because literally a piece of wood will cool better

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 4:20 PM

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"daddy come on ihave a surprise for you"

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afk 20 minutes kicking kids ass

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lol

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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_9700K/14.html

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good ole 1440p gaming, when an 8600k can hang on 100% with a 9900K

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as we get towards cpu's not mattering anymore, i need to see min fps results.. seeing a huge list of 40 CPUs all within 10% doesnt help

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:39 PM

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ya blame consoles holding us back

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cock

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my headphones just died

steep gust Oct 28, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Minimum, average, 98%, frame times, etc. for comparisons

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@unborn epoch consoles actually help the industry by having an easily accessible product into the market thonk

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@rose eagle

Fun fact

CPU load changes with framerate (and a little bit on settings, but not really) and less of resolution

Driving 1080p 144fps is around the same load as 4k 144fps for a CPU

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Sure if you are okay with going from 1080p 144h to 4k 60hz, then CPUs don't matter

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 4:57 PM

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we need more power hungry games

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more physics d000d

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more ai d000d

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let our hardware swear for a change besides wanting it to be ablet oplay games and encode 16k video

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sweat*

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games sure as hell don't

steep gust Oct 28, 2018, 4:59 PM

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Uh what

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Go buy a 4k 144hz monitor

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Then say your hardware isn't pushed to its limit

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 5:00 PM

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ya sure, my gpu is

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cpu not so much

steep gust Oct 28, 2018, 5:00 PM

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Or set up cascade cooling and run it daily to overclock to the silicon limit

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Dude

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CPU has everything to do with maximum framerate

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It provides your GPU with what to render, if it cant keep up your framerate shits itself

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 5:02 PM

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pretty sure its the other way around

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gpu can't handle high frames, less cpu load

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my 7700k goes up to 50% at 200 fps in bf1

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put those other 50% to use by introducing whatever, nakes girls

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i dont care

steep gust Oct 28, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Uh no

Then your GPU ends up pegged at 100% while your CPU is fine

It's how playing at 4k right now is (on a non 2080ti)

But if you go to 1080p. Then your CPU is pinned at 100% while GPU isn't

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Your 7700k is at 50% because hyperthreading optimization generally doesn't exist for games

So it'll pin the 4 physical cores and let the 4 'virtual cores' do nothing.

Now hyper threading really just splits a physical core and forces it to do more work instead of adding more threads

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 5:07 PM

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thanks for proving my point

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DEVS4PCSUPERIORITY

steep gust Oct 28, 2018, 5:08 PM

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What

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PC 'master race' has Intel and Nvidia bending consumers backwards for profit since no competition in some markets.

While console has to remain competitive to stay relevant

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 5:12 PM

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i'd agree when talking about nvidia at the moment

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but really, not even nvidia's fault.

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amd is to blame here, or intel for not entering the gpu market

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selling shit hardware for cheap, so good

steep gust Oct 28, 2018, 5:28 PM

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What

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AMD has good budget GPUs. They don't have the budget to do everything from CPUs to GPUs

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Its nvidia's fault for caring more about money than innovative

Pascal was priced the same as Maxwell (generally) yet there was no competition

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And had huge performance gains

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Shit reasoning. Tell that to ati when they released the 9700pro

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Hire higher skilled architects stop with the budget mindset

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 6:40 PM

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RTX was a huge R&D change and much more into it than just squeezing more out of a smaller chip

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do we need it? prob not, prob too early, niche target

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:36 PM

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Bf v and ryzen 7 2700x: pls give me ur opinion

prime jasper Oct 28, 2018, 8:40 PM

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I have that CPU & a GTX1070ti, 100fps here & there, but dips were real

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:43 PM

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although there'll be more optimization after the game releases

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:43 PM

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I have i5 4690k at 4.2 ghz with 1060 and this was hard already

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:43 PM

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yeah a 1060 might be kinda rough for bfv

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should still get 60fps tho

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:43 PM

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I thinl 1060 is totally enough

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:44 PM

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just maybe not any 144hz magic 😦

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yeah no for 60fps you'll be fine

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:44 PM

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But my cpu is :/

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:44 PM

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but not for high refresh rates

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and I mean your CPU is okay

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:44 PM

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Mh

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:44 PM

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tbh it shouldn't be a bottleneck on a 1060

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if u had like a 1080 then maybe

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but imo pretty on par

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:45 PM

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But i want tje ryzen 7 2700x and new ram, i have 8gb ddr3 now and want 16gb ddr 4

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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ah

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yeah I wanna upgrade too (on a 4770k) but that means I need a new mobo & ram as well..

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expensive :/

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i mean my CPU is still good but i mean it could be better lol

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Yeah i then i need a new mainboard aswell. And i eant a new case

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:47 PM

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xD

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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I wait for blackfriday

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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same here man

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i'm probably gonna wait till black friday 2019 - this year I'm getting a new monitor

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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Im at ~580 € rn

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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damn

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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Ah a new monitor

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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yeah maybe getting all that this black friday might not be worth it

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if you're already negative

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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I NEED MORE MONEY

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:48 PM

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xD

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💸 💸 💸

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here take this

raw turtle Oct 28, 2018, 8:49 PM

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I could buy ot now but i mean the discount would be nice

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If its like 50-80 euro

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Thx dude

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 8:50 PM

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lol

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np

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 10:24 PM

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if you were going to buy a new cpu cooler and front 140mm fans why would you not just get a $120 AIO closed loop?

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the noctua costs like $80 + $30 for front fans.. same cost?

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vs big ass bulky heatsink

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 10:27 PM

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aio is ass

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aio is nice for gpus though

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 10:28 PM

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For actual performance?

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I don't think 2070 will OC at all if cooler

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Just not an oc'er so I'll leave this big ass Evo in here then 😐

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It's got a factory oc of 90 + 125 I've got stable on it just with the EVGA tool and 800mhz on ram which is like a total of 8.7% bonus

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 10:51 PM

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just for noise alone

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unless you buy a 9900k or something stupid, i dont think you need watercooling for cpu

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custom loops look dope as hell though

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and can be very quiet and perform amazingly

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 10:54 PM

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watercooling isn't necessarily noisy

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unless i'm misunderstanding what u meant

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and yeah, custom loops are sexy af, just expensive 😦

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 10:55 PM

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custom loops should be silent

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since you have more room to put fans

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at a much lower rpm = less noise

red ingot Oct 28, 2018, 11:04 PM

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hm

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but as in a watercooler (not custom) would not make any more noise than an air-cooler no?

prime raptor Oct 28, 2018, 11:14 PM

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bit air should be quieter then your average aio

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now those big ass 360mm ones are different

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 11:17 PM

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That makes little sense I guess because the aio I'm looking at has two 140mm fans

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And you mount it in the front.. And I just installed 2 140mm fans in the front

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So why would the aio be noisier? Same cost as noctua plus the front fans

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 11:18 PM

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aio pumps are often terrible

queen field Oct 28, 2018, 11:26 PM

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Water = bad
Air = good

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Wait what

languid acorn Oct 28, 2018, 11:27 PM

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You wouldn't inhale water would you?

queen field Oct 28, 2018, 11:27 PM

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Exactly

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You're @languid acorn who thinks like I do

languid acorn Oct 28, 2018, 11:28 PM

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Great minds think alike

rose eagle Oct 28, 2018, 11:44 PM

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the beast through my new see through window is just massive 😄

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if i were starting a brand new build i was just curious

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if you were going to spend $120 on 2 front case fans and the noctua cpu cooler vs $120 on an AIO that looks 10x sexier..

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im still not seeing the argument against aio 😄

unborn epoch Oct 28, 2018, 11:58 PM

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i just told you

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aio pumps are often noisy

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but if you got a kid screaming in your ear all the time I guess sound doesn't really matter.

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 1:10 AM

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Lol if I'm annoyed by the 80cfm fan of the 212 Evo eh

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It's fking 36db

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 1:39 AM

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well shit thats not having any impact

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its def a 4 pin fan plugged into the only 4 pin cpu fan port

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Can you set fan control to DC?

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Even though pwm should work

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 1:51 AM

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nah theres just this weird cryptic "Target Temp" "Target Speed" 1-9

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so i set it to 50c and 4 and now it's like 1500rpm vs 2080 idle

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what should you cpu fan be while idle?

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1500rpm is still like 30db

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my case fans are all 19-20db

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so this cpu fan is a bamboozle

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 1:53 AM

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180-250

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 1:53 AM

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id have to knock it down to 1000rpm

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 1:53 AM

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Depending on quality of the fan

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 1:54 AM

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250 rpm??

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Sure

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 1:54 AM

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it does 600-2000 looks

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Scam

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 1:54 AM

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so i need ti change the bios to make it bottom out somehow..

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 1:54 AM

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In that case 600

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Not all fans can go that low

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 1:55 AM

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i think it goes full tilt at the target temp mark..

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im very fkin confused at this bios

red ingot Oct 29, 2018, 1:56 AM

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ah i used to have a 212 evo

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 1:56 AM

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Idk man

red ingot Oct 29, 2018, 1:56 AM

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just buy a new fan for it - buy a silent edition or something. The one it comes with by default is a solid fan but kinda noisy yah

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 1:56 AM

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Download speedfan

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 1:58 AM

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ok i got it

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just taking 200 reboots

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down to 1000rpm, its pretty silent now

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one more attempt!

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i dont mind the full load noise.. usually too involved in whatever im doing to notice

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but sitting here just working normally is annoying

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wew 800rpm

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ok thats not working as intended... occt is burning cpu and its staying at 800rpm 😄

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ah no there she goes, 1100rpm

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welp thats enough a victory for the night

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 3:25 AM

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@steep gust "Driving 1080p 144fps is around the same load as 4k 144fps for a CPU" I mean yes the problem is the video card required to drive 4k isnt available yet for 144fps so "right now" theres no point upgrading say even a Gen 1 i7 if that's your goal.

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some day when we can drive 144fps 4k then im sure we will need a CPU that has yet to exist ;D

prime jasper Oct 29, 2018, 6:24 AM

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https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/1pmgAcr5ks0cmV4LvLC6SGNuUm9ees_a0fwDsNNV8dY/http/lets-fuck.men/7897999716568680109.png?width=983&height=677

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WEWLAD

north crow Oct 29, 2018, 8:47 AM

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that's a thicc database server

prime jasper Oct 29, 2018, 3:32 PM

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buy scythe slip stream 120-140mm 2k rpm fans. noisy but hella of a perf. nearly identical to noctua ppc-3000's.

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https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SY1225SL12SH&_sacat=0

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 3:45 PM

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buy delta fans, noisy but hella performance

prime jasper Oct 29, 2018, 4:35 PM

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mmLol

queen field Oct 29, 2018, 4:35 PM

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buy maglev fans, expensive but hella of a performance

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wot's noise btw

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Maglev user

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😛 😛

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 4:51 PM

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i like these sexy Orange and black Cougar brand fans @storm osprey suggested ;D

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the Corsair RGB 120mm dont have very good tech specs..

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i guess most 120s dont compare to 140s

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 5:45 PM

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cougar vortex fans, a hidden treasure imo

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 6:04 PM

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hidden in plain sight with 332 reviews, 5 egg for the 140mm's

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😄

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 6:05 PM

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people just buy corsair, noctua, or cooler master all the time

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cougar makes some good stuff, some things are pretty meh though

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 6:06 PM

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thermaltake!

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 6:06 PM

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yea even thermaltake is ahead of cougar

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and i think cougar is as good as corsair, and a budget noctua

green nebula Oct 29, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Main reason people really like Corsair is there aesthetic.

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 7:10 PM

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its just the go to brand

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at least their performance is solid so i cant complain

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 8:39 PM

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im not a risk taker

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i do have a Corsair k70 lux

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$$

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 8:54 PM

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im a slight risk taker

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ill get the 2nd or 3rd recommended thing

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basically ill get anything over corsair

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 8:57 PM

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well, i guess im bipolar in risk taking.. normally 100% risk averse but when im pushed then ill choose tech over used 😄

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cause i had a 970 and did the most risky as fk thing and bought a 2070

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and have BSOD'd daily due to it lol

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 8:58 PM

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ohhh lame

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the 2070 is giving you bsod?

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 9:16 PM

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cant think of why anything else would be

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def started on 2070 install

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havent done a full driver wipe with guru3d yet

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 9:18 PM

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hmm thats super weird

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 9:34 PM

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is it? yea ok i guess if its not normal i should try to figure it out

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 9:36 PM

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i mean, gpus are pretty compatible, and i havent heard of adding one that gives bsod

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 9:49 PM

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you haven't format yet?

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what are you, an amateur?

red ingot Oct 29, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Well if I were you I'd try to figure out the issue quick, cause usually if its defective u can get a direct exchange through the retailer within 30 days of purchase rather than an RMA (which usually takes longer). So then less downtime

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 9:54 PM

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i know, i formatted the night before.. nub

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 9:54 PM

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do it again

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don't rely on some scrub ass 3rd party program

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 9:56 PM

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i would def have to reformat before determining anything 😄

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not in the mood again atm

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the only other thing that changed is im using dport + hdmi to my 2nd monitor instead of dport + dvi-d

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since the 2070 has no dvi

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buttload of nvlddmkm errors

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 10:07 PM

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ya just format

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 10:07 PM

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everyone on 1803 w10?

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 10:08 PM

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idk what im on

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 10:08 PM

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no i dea

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how do I even check that

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it says build 17134

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 10:08 PM

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right click start > System

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Version 1803?

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 10:08 PM

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oh right

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 10:08 PM

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im assuming 17134.345

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 10:09 PM

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version 1803

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 10:09 PM

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yarp..

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 10:09 PM

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installed on 10/29/2018

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 10:09 PM

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it BSODs while just sitting in windows

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 10:09 PM

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😃

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 10:09 PM

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it hasnt actually crashed yet while playing a game

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haha freshly built usb eh? ;D

unborn epoch Oct 29, 2018, 10:09 PM

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ya

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 10:13 PM

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seems to not be a rare issue

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glad the nerds are on it for repro cases

storm osprey Oct 29, 2018, 11:29 PM

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cant wait for my aliaz mech switches

rose eagle Oct 29, 2018, 11:41 PM

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hmm how new is iCue from Corsair.. i dont recall having this before my reformat

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just some older named software for my k70 lux

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and some corsair util is stopping unexpectedly constantly in my win10 reliability log

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 12:11 AM

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i just uninstalled icue 2 which i did not have before and installed the older Cue2 software

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see what happens..

green nebula Oct 30, 2018, 2:50 AM

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I had the same fucking issues with corsairs software, till i realized there was a newer version of the software which solved everything

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 2:54 AM

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lol the new iCue is possibly what caused all my problems

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i went back to the basic Cue2

green nebula Oct 30, 2018, 2:55 AM

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iCue solved everything for me.

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 2:55 AM

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you were BSOD'ing on CUE?

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lol maybe its just a reinstall problem

green nebula Oct 30, 2018, 2:55 AM

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Well BSOD happened one.

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The other problems were drivers crashing a lot

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 2:56 AM

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i looked at my Reliability log in win10 and its just riddled with iCue stopped working shit

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https://snag.gy/1kqWRM.jpg

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will see what happens through tomorrow evening

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i bsod daily so far after reformatting my PC and putting in my 2070

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i was blaming it of course

green nebula Oct 30, 2018, 2:58 AM

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oof

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PS: Don't suppose you can send a screenshots of View Technical details ?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 3:23 AM

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its just a ton of guids

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Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Corsair\CORSAIR iCUE Software\Corsair.Service.exe

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Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Corsair\CORSAIR iCUE Software\iCUE.exe

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couple others

somber tendon Oct 30, 2018, 4:01 AM

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Am i able to run Battlefield V with i7 4790k + MSI GTX 980 TI at 1440p ultra with stable 60fps?

My current 3 years and a few months old rig specs

CPU: i7-4790k w/ Corsair H100i Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI Z97 Gaming 5
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6G
Ram: Gskill Ripjaws 1866Mhz 16GB (8GB x2)
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB x1, Samsung 850 EVO 500GB x1,
HDD: Western Digital Blue 1TB
Display: Acer Predator XB271HU
Optical Drive: Samsung DVD Drive
PSU: Seasonic X850 850W 80+ Gold PSU
CasE: Corsair Carbide Series® Air 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case
OS: Windows 10 Home - 64-bit - OEM

lofty light Oct 30, 2018, 4:03 AM

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Well the game isn't out

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So who knows really, but I don't think that will make it there on ultra

wispy wing Oct 30, 2018, 4:07 AM

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980ti is somewhat = 1070. I got 100fps on ultra 1080p in beta with1070 and i5 8400 6 core. 2400mhz ram. But you're on 1440p with lower freq ram . So I will only guess u will get around 60 fps.

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@somber tendon ^

somber tendon Oct 30, 2018, 4:17 AM

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hmm interesting

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thx for the answer

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 4:44 AM

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1440p is like at least a 30% hit

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i have a 970 and got 50-80fps in beta

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on mixed lower settings

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 11:24 AM

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hey guys would an i7 3rd gen would run well with bfv?

unborn epoch Oct 30, 2018, 11:51 AM

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Should run fine depending on gpu

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 12:22 PM

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Got a 960 GTX

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a bit old but it run well w/ BF1

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 1:39 PM

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bfv ran 30% worse in beta than 1 for me but that should be curbed a bit by release

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 4:34 PM

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@zenith cave what resolution?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 4:51 PM

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my psu finally arrived .. lol

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aholes

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 4:51 PM

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jesus christ

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 4:52 PM

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good thing i didnt wait

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get to rip out the old non modular one now!

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 4:53 PM

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god i hate non modular

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 4:53 PM

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its fking crammed in there so tight, i barely got the back door shut

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 4:53 PM

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lol modular should help a lot with that

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:02 PM

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no reliability errors today

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after uninstalling iCUE

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:03 PM

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what is icue?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:06 PM

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corsair's software for their devices

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seems the new win10 hates it

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i bet it's not widely known since only new users would realize to get it

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the existing software doesnt upgrade to it

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so i had an older version from 2 yrs ago when i got this kb and it was up to date.. but yea this new one is spamming errors and if that was the BSOD cause.. x_x

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such shit timing with upgrading to a 2070 not knowing

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:08 PM

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lol wtf

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that doesnt make sense though

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the error you posted i googled it the other day and it was an nvidia driver problem

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:08 PM

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yea but ive read its insanely generic

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and they dont claim ownership of it

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:09 PM

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wtf

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thats weird

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nvidia and corsair dont play well together?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:09 PM

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its only been a day so ill have to see

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if by this weekend zero BSODs im callin it

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:10 PM

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thatll be some some shit

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(another reason to not get corsair)

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:10 PM

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boo, is so sexy 😄

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:10 PM

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meh

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:11 PM

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i bet you buy offbrand BBQ sauce also!!!!!!!!

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you sick bastard

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:11 PM

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lol i dont know the last time i got bbq sauce

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but i always get a1

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when i do get some

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:11 PM

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throws glass against wall

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:11 PM

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lol is a1 bad?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:11 PM

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who the hell is making such crap steak you gotta put a1 on it

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

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my dad

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

#

oops

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😄

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is it medium rare filet/tbone/ribeye?

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

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he likes it still bleeding so that shits rare

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bleh

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

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well then it should be great!

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

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disgusting

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:13 PM

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but it needs to be one of the cuts listed

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you make him cook yours with no pink?

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:14 PM

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oh i dont mind pink, but when you cut into his steak it literally pools blood at the cut spots

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:14 PM

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i mean, if it doesnt pool up blood sitting on your plate it belongs in the trash

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:14 PM

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lol thats just gross

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:14 PM

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does he use a1?

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:14 PM

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errr, i dont recall

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i havent lived with my dad for 5 years now?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:15 PM

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salt + pepper all a steak needs grilled

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did he grill on charcoal or gas?

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:15 PM

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gas

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:15 PM

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poop

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i live in oklahoma, we take our meat very seriously 😄

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and grilling

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yea a1 is like taboo, you know that "get a rope" salsa commercial they used to have?

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we'd prob do that with a1 users here

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Hey majicpanda, you were having issues with your 2070 right?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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maybe

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but it may be my iCUE Corsair software

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Ah

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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i uninstalled it and am waiting patiently for a BSOD

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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Okay cause I just saw this article (will link) and I thought of u

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/10/30/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-cards-have-a-serious-problem-they-keep-dying/

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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i live in az, so its not very meat focused i guess, im hispanic so its mostly mixed with soemthing else

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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Like I mean it talks about 2080ti but you're having similar issues

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Assuming it's likely an issue with all the Turing cards

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Turns out you're not the only one having issues..

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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yea those fkin 2080Ti run so damn hot

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i mean i only BSOD

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hopefully nothing wrong with the card

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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only

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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my PC doesnt "lock up"

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i know that feeling, when your game freezes

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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only bsod as if its nbd lol

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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this is actually just sitting in windows

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BSOD

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its a driver issue but i really think it's Corsair's fault

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Huh

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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and/or the newest Win10 build + Corsair

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Maybe

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U tried uninstalling the corsair stuff?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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if i dont BSOD by this weekend it is 100% Corsair's fault

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yea

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Ah ok

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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i downgraded to the one i had before reformat yesterday

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Yeah might be compatibility issue

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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and waiting

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Since the cards new

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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all the reliability monitor stuff is gone, no more errors on the older sw

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Older corsair software has no issues?

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Odd

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Maybe just a bugged build in general

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:21 PM

#

my event viewer was spamming with nvlddmkm errros

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not all cause BSOD

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but since i uninstaleld iCUE those are also gone

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sooo...

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Vlddkmkm?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:22 PM

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"This error occurs when your computer thinks that you graphics card has stopped responding, mainly due to a low frame rate. The program that controls this is called "Timeout detection and recovery." The error is very vague, and doesn't correlate to one problem."

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Ah I see

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"Due to low frame rate"

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bsod if below 60fps

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XD

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:23 PM

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so, it's a bit coincidental that all those errors stopped when i uninstalled ICUE

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dont ya think

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im in IT, i dont take any error at face value ;P

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most people would probably be slamming nvidia for this and RTX

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 5:25 PM

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True

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Tbh I probably would've

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I'd be pissed if my brand new card wasnt working

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 5:27 PM

#

buying the highest end of anything is poor

#

2070 was risky, but the top end is like they squeezed the most out of it

#

just like 9900K

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f that cpu

#

it's like 900c

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combine that with a 2080Ti's 900c

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Best have some sick water cooling

steep gust Oct 30, 2018, 5:58 PM

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9900k is fine at stock

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Cooler than a 8600k or 8086k

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It's when you overclock that it gets hot

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Same with a 2080ti

red ingot Oct 30, 2018, 6:02 PM

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Yeah which is just bad design imo

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If you're buying the highest end presumably you're gonna wanna OC it

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You're catering to the top 1% of the market with a 2080ti or 9900k so ofc they'll wanna oc the heck outta it

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Anyone know any decent mobos that uses both DDR3/4 RAMs?

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:31 PM

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almost certain that wont exist

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:31 PM

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I know they exist, one of them from Biostar, can't tell which model

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Don't know if there any brands with similar specifications

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:32 PM

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just googled it, apparently there is one by asrock

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cant imagine its going to be decently priced

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and not to mention that probably only works with the first cpus that started using ddr4

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Don't want to spend more cash just replace my currently existing DDR3 RAM

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for some DDR4 RAM, RAM is expensive as hell

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:34 PM

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whats your scenario?

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Stuck w/ a mobo with 2 DDR3 8gb and 4gb RAM

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Can't buy DDR4 RAM cause mobo accepts only DDR3, u know old model

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:36 PM

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so you want a better cpu but want to use your old ram?

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:36 PM

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Also old mobo can't accept 4th gen and above processor

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pretty much and also invest in upgrading in a new processor, 3rd gen took a strain w/ bf1

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:36 PM

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i mean, i would think the price difference to get hardware that accepts your old ram would get pretty close to the price of new ram

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i could be wrong, but i really dont see it being efficient

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:37 PM

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that would also mean buying a new mobo, which sucks

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:37 PM

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id just go the simple route and get a new platform

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new mb, cpu, and ram

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:38 PM

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only got enough cash to buy one of those

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Any Motherboards that Support DDR3 and DDR4 at same time?

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No. There are some, for Skylake only, that support *either* DDR3 or DDR4 RAM. But, there's a huge catch: It has to be DDR3L RAM, meaning 1.35V RAM. It's overwhelmingly likely you have 1.5V or possibly 1.65V RAM. You can use 1.5V RAM until the time it fries your memory controller and you're buying a new CPU (Microsoft's not going to replace that).

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:39 PM

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dammit

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:39 PM

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whats your budget?

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:40 PM

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Around 10k Pesos ($187)

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:44 PM

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for everything?

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:48 PM

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Just the mobo and ddr4, I'll stick with my old processor

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But i doubt it would be enough for those

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:49 PM

#

old processor wont work with new mb and ram

#

typically intel doesnt support old gen cpus to new gen mbs

#

iirc only 9th gen cpus are backwards compatible with 8th gen mbs

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otherwise intel doesnt support anything else

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:50 PM

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well it was worth a try, tnx anyways

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:51 PM

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imo just save up

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might take a while, idk your income or whatever, but if you want it you will eventually get something good

#

intel JUST released their 9th gen stuff, so theres not much to wait on for a while until amd announced they next cpus early next yuear

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 6:54 PM

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yea im gonna stick w/ intel, they may be expensive but have a bit better perf than amd

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 6:55 PM

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honestly, if you put time into tuning amd, you will get the same/better performance than intel for cheaper

zenith cave Oct 30, 2018, 7:04 PM

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i'll think about it

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:21 PM

#

i will probably go ryzen for my next build, but im waiting until ryzen releases their 7nm cpus

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which should put them on par with intel out of the box

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:22 PM

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I have a Ryzen atm, its a pretty decent CPU

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:22 PM

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7nm Ryzen for sure going to use same motherboards as the current gens?

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:22 PM

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amd said that their current platform will be supported through 2020

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:22 PM

#

you can get a full Ryzen 2600 build right now for like $420.. lol

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:22 PM

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while it might not be optimal though, it will work

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:22 PM

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so if i could just drop one of the 7nm in it next year...

#

DDR4 3000 probably isnt going anywhere any time soon right?

#

we're only using 2666

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:23 PM

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doubt it

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ddr4 came out what? 2 years ago?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:23 PM

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so all the intel and amd cpu's next year should still use it.. i guess worst case you lose the board and cpu

#

i imagine a 2600 would be a step down from my 3770k i7

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:24 PM

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in gaming probably lateral

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as long as you OC the 2600

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which, everyone should

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:24 PM

#

even non X?

#

not sure how Ryzen works

#

my 3770k is OCd

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:24 PM

#

afaik every ryzen cpu is unlocked

#

even the ryzen 3 line

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:25 PM

#

im still curious what optimizations have occured in the last 6 years of CPUs

#

compared to what i got

#

even for game dev etc

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:25 PM

#

i mean, for cpu tasks a modern cpu will destroy a 4rd gen intel

#

but gaming just leans heavily on the gpu, especially at higher resolution

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:26 PM

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Asus Strix B350 is only $110 heh

#

everything about AMD is cheaper.. y 😄

#

you'd think the boards would still be expensive

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:26 PM

#

for gaming youre only looking at 5-10 fps more from your 3770k to 2600

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:27 PM

#

if that at 1440p, possibly lower id think

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:27 PM

#

i think the benchmarks i just looked at were all 1080p

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:27 PM

#

yea, cpu is more a factor at 150+ fps

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:27 PM

#

so yea for 1440p its probably the same to 5 fps more

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:27 PM

#

they dont show min fps

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i need more people to test with Fraps and FRAFS 😉

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:28 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8t2z1v/i7_3770_vs_r5_2600x_game_benchmarks_inside/

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:29 PM

#

lying turd

#

ah thats non K

#

almost had me!

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:32 PM

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yea sadly you really arent going to get a lot of comparisons to older cpus

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:37 PM

#

whew.. $394 for 2600, cooler, mobo, and 16gb of the best corsair ram

#

thats just insane, lol

#

i wonder how they test the 3770k in a lot of these tests, would have thought at least moving to DDR4 from 3 would impact something

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:38 PM

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yea amd pricing is pretty competitive

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:38 PM

#

i mean the MSI board everyone buys is only $75..

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:38 PM

#

if youre on a budget, its hard to deny amd

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:39 PM

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i wouldnt call it a budget so much as pre-emptive buy while waiting for 7nm to drop in 😄

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:39 PM

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$420 here for 2700x + cooler + 16GBs of RAM

#

Wew

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:39 PM

#

you bought that?

#

where yer mobo

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:39 PM

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I bought the 2700x which came with the cooler, yes, but I only got 8GBs of RAM (misordered 8 instead of 16)

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:40 PM

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oof.. BFV is gonna want 16 for sure

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:40 PM

#

This is my MB

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157836

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:40 PM

#

woof, went big on mobo for amd

#

i do like ASRock

#

my 3770k board has been amazing since 2012

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:41 PM

#

how is asrock treating you? i never tried a board from them

#

... or have i?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:41 PM

#

i would highly consider them again

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:42 PM

#

i might have a friends build on asrock

#

hmmm

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:42 PM

#

$138 aint bad but i was looking at the $75 bargain bin 😄

#

theres no real perf changes of boards

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:42 PM

#

i usually go with asus, gigabyte, or msi

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:43 PM

#

long as it has an m.2 slot

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:43 PM

#

m.2 overrated

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

well, now that i have my new case perhaps

#

since they back mounted, sexy bitch

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

smexy new case

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

it all up on the back of that, zero hdd bays

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

you get psu swapped out?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

❤

#

i need to go get it, work interfering

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

ahh gotcha

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

40m round trip.. boss been messaging me lol

#

i work from home but i still gotta be avail

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

#

they dont ship to your place?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:45 PM

#

i did ship to store to get it faster..

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:45 PM

#

ah

#

that backfired though

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:45 PM

#

it would have only been to my house today had i not...........

#

lol 😄

#

yea now i get to make a 2nd trip 20m away

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:45 PM

#

lame, glad i live 5 min away from best buy

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:45 PM

#

but.. it was essentially free so..

#

i could get a 2600 setup free if i sold my current rig lol

#

doesnt seem right

#

got another $150 in best buy credits, ram is really coming down in price

#

$135 for 16gb

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:46 PM

#

ram and ssd prices are dropping

#

got newegg promo right now for 500gb 860 evo for 80 bucks...

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:47 PM

#

$70 last April 2017

#

so $135 is still way overpriced

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:47 PM

#

70 for ddr4?

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:47 PM

#

https://camelcamelcamel.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/product/B0134EW7G8?context=search

#

oof 2016

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:48 PM

#

jesus

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:48 PM

#

black friday barely phases ram

#

looks like 20% tops

#

stupid PC components

#

someone needs to do a 2600 apples to apples 2070 comparison for me in FRAFS

#

ill say it again, someone spin up a lab that has a robot and puts computers together so someone can run benchmark tests 😄

#

just mount 1 of ea card to a wall

#

cpu might be a bit difficult to swap in and out mechanically lol

#

some engineer can figure it out

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:51 PM

#

@storm osprey They are doing pretty well, so far

#

Had no issues with it

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:51 PM

#

might go asrock next time, i have minor issues with my asus board

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:51 PM

#

but yea Nyph i got 250 + 550 850s right now

#

i dont even need more storage than that

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

lol no you dont

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

I have a 2TB HDD and a 500GB 860

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

i only have 250 and 1tb, so i want another 500gb ssd just for gaming

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

I should get another SSD soon

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

but prices keep dropping

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

i thought maybe a 970 would help my unity dev compile time but im pretty sure its not even using my 850 evo

#

engine limitation

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

onlygood, just wait, its expected that prices are keep going to drop

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

I have like 116GBs left in this SSD, wew

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

i gotta keep my gaming drive pretty clean

#

i mean.. eventually ill need more than 500, so ill prob add an 860 500gb

#

steam can be on one and origin etc on another

#

steam is great anyway, can set up multiple install locs

#

this case can mount 3 SSDs easily, all you'd ever need

#

OS + Gaming + Gaming 😄

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:54 PM

#

Yeah, I can add another SSD or HDD if I want, & I'll need another SSD soon..

#

Almost out of space on this SSD

#

I just use my HDD for junk

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:54 PM

#

wait

#

wait as long as you can

#

i believe in you

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:54 PM

#

bloblul

#

I need a new keyboard (thinking of the K55), 8GBs more RAM, a 2nd monitor, and another SSD

#

Wew

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:56 PM

#

get mech keys

#

silent switches

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:56 PM

#

I have a couple of friends who have the K55 and they say its pretty silent

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:56 PM

#

yea, its membrane

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:57 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/wqNHmKC.png

#

"Disable Windows key"

#

Sold

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:57 PM

#

membrane are quiet, but feel like mushy poo imo

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:58 PM

#

I'm using this ancient keyboard from 2009ish right now

#

With my build, lol

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:58 PM

#

try a mech keyboard

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 7:58 PM

#

I ran out of funds for it, went over budget for it actually

#

I'll be getting the last few things I need to complete it though here soon, the RAM, 2nd monitor, keyboard, & 2nd SSD

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 7:59 PM

#

you can get a GMMK (keyboard that has modular switches, so you can change it)

#

get nice silent switches

#

and get custom keycaps

#

if you want

#

(im kind of a keyboard enthusiast)

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https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/gmmk-tkl-tenkeyless-customized

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 9:20 PM

#

aight the 850 is in

#

i think thats it for a while 😄

#

bring on the V!

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 9:24 PM

#

computer all set up?!

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 9:24 PM

#

yea minus like 5 massive cables shoved into the bottom, gg

#

i might get a new mouse pad for christmas and consider 1 white LED or something but right now im done spending monies

#

all tapped

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 9:26 PM

#

steelseries for mouse pads

#

always the go to

#

and i like that the case you can just shove cables behind shroud and be fine lol

rose eagle Oct 30, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

the steel series extended one looks ginormous

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

i use

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https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/deskpads/products/godspeed-deskpads

prime jasper Oct 30, 2018, 11:03 PM

#

Can anyone help fix this issue?
It's been annoying me
https://i.gyazo.com/84e7b844b28ea69b635918d51feeca66.png

Basically when I partitioned my SSD part of the drive didn't go into the main partition - OS (C:), and was left unallocated for some reason. Is there a way I can allocate that space to the main partition?

#

^ That was a result of cloning my OS to my SSD from a smaller sized SSD btw

unborn epoch Oct 30, 2018, 11:24 PM

#

delete 474MB and try to extend OC

#

OS*

#

next time just format and reinstall

#

cloning is shit

storm osprey Oct 30, 2018, 11:25 PM

#

^

prime jasper Oct 31, 2018, 1:16 AM

#

im getting micro stuttering on desktop and while gaming any clues?

#

ive updated my drivers doesnt seem to help

lofty light Oct 31, 2018, 1:18 AM

#

@prime jasper I had the exact same issue from the exact same cause, ended up just backing up the OS normally and wiping

#

For some reason it wouldn't let me extend the unallocated

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 1:28 AM

#

@prime jasper you got a 144hz + 60hz monitors by chance

prime jasper Oct 31, 2018, 1:31 AM

#

@rose eagle i got single 144hz

#

with dvi-d

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 1:32 AM

#

That's a bummer.. Windows stuttering..

#

Sure it's not your mouse?

prime jasper Oct 31, 2018, 1:32 AM

#

yeah the mouse

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 1:32 AM

#

Like if you walk forward in games no mouse does it happen?

prime jasper Oct 31, 2018, 1:32 AM

#

the cursor stutters sometimes

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 1:33 AM

#

You clean the optic?

#

Qtip etc

prime jasper Oct 31, 2018, 1:34 AM

#

mhm

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 1:34 AM

#

Got a different mouse to confirm its the mouse

prime jasper Oct 31, 2018, 1:34 AM

#

Hmm ill ask my brother tomorrow to lend

#

thanks for the help

#

@rose eagle the mouse sometimes when i restart pc activates the windows accerelation to enabled

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 1:35 AM

#

Reformat

prime jasper Oct 31, 2018, 1:35 AM

#

reformat?

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 1:37 AM

#

Always

unborn epoch Oct 31, 2018, 1:40 AM

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you like boys? better format your pc

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 1:57 AM

#

Reformat something

prime jasper Oct 31, 2018, 2:34 AM

#

~Samsung Rapid Mode
is it worth it and does it have any side effects like decreased lastivity of the ssd

lofty light Oct 31, 2018, 2:41 AM

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That's not the one that adds a RAM disk right?

unborn epoch Oct 31, 2018, 11:18 AM

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Sort of

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It uses dram as cache

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So not entirely like ramdick

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 2:58 PM

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Anyone know of an AMD processor and graphics card that can run BFV?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 2:58 PM

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I'm going for 2600 and a 1080. I hope it works

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 3:34 PM

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1440p?

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"can run" is different for everyone

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720p? 😄

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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hahah 480p

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144p

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even better

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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i like playing everything in 1p

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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sexy

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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1080p, cpu is more important, 2600 will suffer a bit

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1440p you can get away with lesser CPU

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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That's what I'm going for

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1440

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Yeah

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 3:58 PM

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@plain vessel how much are those?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:01 PM

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Mine is going to be roughly 1450

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$

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hahaha

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Nice

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I tried to get everything white so that it could go with a lot of different colors

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Tru

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I might just get a white backplate

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 4:06 PM

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I just need an upgrade of the processor and graphics card

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:07 PM

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@languid acorn you care about 100fps or?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Yes

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I would like that

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I've never really had anything stable. Always stuck at 30 reee

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:08 PM

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i think itll be fine 1440p, non ultra?

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i play with the optimal settings of high textures, mesh but everything else off or low

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doesnt look any different and provides best sight .. in bfront2 i got 130fps avg on my 2070

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95 on the 1% low.. so im hoping BFV performs as well as BFront 2

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Hell man. I'm fine with like 60 at all ultra, but I'll test yours out

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:09 PM

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i dont see why it wouldnt but who knows...

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in BF1 ultra on 2070 i got 97 avg..

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65 low 1%, unacceptable

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:10 PM

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hahahaha

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for a 2070 yea

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:10 PM

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you said 1080 tho, non Ti?

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:10 PM

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fuck yea i have black and orange build

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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white black orange master race!

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Yeah. Non ti

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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also, they have white gpu. but usually are expensive

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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1080 shouldnt perform too much under 2070

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Awesome

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:11 PM

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i want white ram sticks

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first my brown mobo has to go 😄

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back in 2012 no one cared about winders

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:12 PM

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@storm osprey I actually saw a white 1080 for 420(lol), but the sale ended

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:12 PM

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or i didnt..

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:12 PM

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aww lame

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:12 PM

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my 2070 is LED so

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🍭

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spraypaint

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make sure you use metallic spraypaint

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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I forgot what it waas, but damn it was sexy

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:13 PM

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msi has a titanium line of gpus that is white

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https://www.google.com/search?q=msi+titanium+1070+ti&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS814US814&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiY55m7ibHeAhWQKnwKHYCWDmMQ_AUIDygC&biw=1680&bih=939

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Nice

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:15 PM

#

gigabyte

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TgPxr/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-gaming-oc-11g-video-card-gv-n108tgaming-oc-11gd

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:15 PM

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What is the best 1080?

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:15 PM

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white and orange from gigabyte

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Sexy, but too high in price. Price range for the gpus is around 400-450

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:16 PM

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yea why buy a damn 1080 for $450 when a 2070 is $500

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Right now I'm stuck in that phase of staring down parts, but not buying anything

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:17 PM

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as long as you get dual fan youre fine, in my order of gpu trust its evga>msi>asus>gigabyte

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Ah okay

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:17 PM

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yeh, EVGA ftw

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not specifically the "FTW" but.. ftw

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:17 PM

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evga is probably the most popular by far

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:17 PM

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i got the factor small OC EVGA 2070 XC

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:18 PM

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yea single fan arent bad, but its usually a few dollars more to get dual fan

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@languid acorn at this point might as well as plop the 500 bucks for a 2070

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perf is slightly better than 1080

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:18 PM

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Yeh

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:19 PM

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anything cheaper for 1080 than 450 is probably brands or models i would advise against

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:20 PM

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yea i mean used 1080 maybe, but new right now makes zero sense

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:22 PM

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yea just looked at pcpartpicker, the cheapest gpu i would recommend was 460, so thats 40 bucks away from a 2070... id def get a 2070 instead

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:22 PM

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I've a tight budget man. I need all of this together before November 20th

pastel lily Oct 31, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Upgrading your drivers in older GPUs = Downgrading performance to pave way for newer GPUs

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Just a fun fact

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:24 PM

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whats your total budget and what is it used for?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:24 PM

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1450 right now. Gaming

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$

pastel lily Oct 31, 2018, 4:25 PM

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Are you looking for upgrade or new setup?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:25 PM

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New setup

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:25 PM

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for EVERYTHING?

pastel lily Oct 31, 2018, 4:25 PM

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incl accessories (Monitor, KBM, Headsets)

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?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:25 PM

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headset and a mouse

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That's it

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I know it's bad

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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what about case, psu, and storage?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:26 PM

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I've got to buy everything

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w6HnMZ
That is just a place holder gpu. Still looking

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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yea you can definitely shuffly things around and get a 2070

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gpu is the most important component for gaming

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like 70% of your gaming performance is based on gpu

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

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Yeah

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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so you have a headset and mouse?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Yeah

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The only thing I'm worried about is windows 10

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I know I can use it free until I can buy a key

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:33 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bbsrP3

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better performance than your build, cheaper

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:34 PM

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How the hell? You wizard

pastel lily Oct 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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you still need a CPU case

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RGB*

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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wait... i didnt add monitor

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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The only thing I would change would be the case. Just to a white one.

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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they have a white version of the one i suggest

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its got a tempered glass side

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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Oh wait yeah. A monitor

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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oops

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:37 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mBDdtg

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costs a little more,

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:37 PM

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It's good man. Thank you

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:37 PM

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you dont want to skimp on ssd for your os

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:38 PM

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true true

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:38 PM

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or monitor

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😄

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:38 PM

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also true

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:38 PM

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yea your build is slightly better than that monitor

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depending on graphic settings

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if you high everything, youll still probably get more than 60 fps

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:39 PM

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Eh it's all good right now. When i get good cash income then I will upgrade

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@storm osprey Easy fix. Bump to Ultra

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:39 PM

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Black Friday should bring some amazing monitor deals

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id just look real hard

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they are the #1 PC component that gets slashed hard

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you gonna be able to buy anything by then?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:40 PM

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If I don't get a monitor now

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Plus I still got to get bfv

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damn this is hurting my wallet

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:41 PM

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so theres a 24" 1440p 144hz gsync monitor that i swear was 300 bucks a couple of days ago, its a dell

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:41 PM

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Ooo really?

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:41 PM

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i would recommend stretching for that or the 27" version for around 400 bucks

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i lie, the 24" is 165hz or something like that

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:41 PM

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that's fine

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:41 PM

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i know its a stretch, but these monitors are absolutely fantastic

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:42 PM

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Yeah

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:42 PM

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i personally own one, i think @rose eagle does, and i have gotten like 5 people to get one as well

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everyone loves it

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

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I found it. 341$

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

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wut

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the 27?

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

24

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

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oh yea, it should drop a lot more

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

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i swear i saw it for 300 recently

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

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the 27 goes on sale black fridays usually for 350

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yea the 24 should be much cheaper on sale

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2x a year

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

it dropped from 500 to 300. Do you think it'll go lower?

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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its never 500

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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the 27 for 350 would be your best bet

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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at least ive never seen it at that price

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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no idea what the 24 goes to

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or what we're now talking about

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no point buying 24 for 300 if 27 is 350 next month

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Yeah

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:45 PM

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yea i would wait for 27"

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imo its the perfect size forr 1440p

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:45 PM

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yea thats a ton of pixels on a 24

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 4:46 PM

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at like 2 feet away, you dont even notice pixels

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its insane

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(my best friend has the 24")

pastel lily Oct 31, 2018, 4:54 PM

#

one of my older rigs thats still functioning perfectly : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qvVQMZ

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should I upgrade my GPU or just let it be for old times sake

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btw, whats a good alternative to 2080?

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AMD side

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:56 PM

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nothin

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thats a literal answer, they dont have anything to answer against the 1080Ti

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which is what the 2080 is perf wise

pastel lily Oct 31, 2018, 4:57 PM

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hmm cant wait to see what AMD has in their sleeve to counter 2080

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 4:59 PM

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i wouldnt hold my breath for a GPU counter, they still have havent quite figured it out after 20 years 😄

pastel lily Oct 31, 2018, 5:00 PM

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im guessing then Nvidia would dominate the GPU market and nobody would be able to stop them increasing the prices

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:sigh:

#

so should I upgrade the 970 ?

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 5:03 PM

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1080?

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you might get 60fps 1440p on lowest all settings for V

pastel lily Oct 31, 2018, 5:07 PM

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im not going to use it for playing

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i have another rig for gaming

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with 2080Ti

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 5:09 PM

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i just sold my 970 for $110 on facebook marketplace

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Maybe if I sell some organs I can get a better budget

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 5:14 PM

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"older" gaming system, while im running a 4th gen intel xD

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and yea, amd is only barely competitive at the mid range

#

intel is supposed to join the gpu market in 2020 i believe

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(intel has been taking a lot of "key" players from AMD's gpu sectors)

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hmm, rosewill pc case is 20 dollars right now, looks like a decent 40 dollar case

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Ooo bf seems like it'll be a hard game to run

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from the requirments

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 5:25 PM

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yea bf is not the easiest to run

#

i have an i7 4790, 1080, and 16gb of ram, and in bf1 with everything low except textures, i get roughly 100-130 fps at 1440p

languid acorn Oct 31, 2018, 5:26 PM

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nice

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 5:54 PM

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yea my 3770k is same with 2070

#

1440p = upgrade CPU every 10 yrs ;D

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 5:56 PM

#

hopefully 7nm ryzen is as cracked up as its supposed to be

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and i wont have to upgrade cpu for a very long time after that

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:01 PM

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I really don't understand why people think PC is so much better

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 6:02 PM

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i dont understand why anyone would want a console so we're square 😄

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you dont understand til you play 144hz 100+ fps with a mouse and kb

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which wont hit consoles for a decade

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if ever

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:02 PM

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You know it'll play any game that comes out on it

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 6:03 PM

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itll "play" it, at 30 or 60 fps

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:03 PM

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And if the game runs poorly, it's the developers fault

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 6:03 PM

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60fps is horrific

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:03 PM

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But yet, I still enjoy the game

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 6:03 PM

#

absolutely

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:03 PM

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Because it's fun

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 6:03 PM

#

i enjoyed COD on consoles 10 years ago

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because i had buddies with consoles

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its more a culture choice

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you got buddies on ps4? you all own ps4s

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:03 PM

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I have buddies on everything

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And a PC is easily 2x the price of an Xbox One

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:07 PM

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i like pc because i get to dictate the experience i have with a game

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im not told by the dev that this is what they want out of the game

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i could give 2 shits about motion blur and HBOA, but devs want it in and now im playing a game at 30 fps because of it

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on pc i can turn them off and get 60 fps

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and even if devs are bad and dont optimize a game well, you can just throw a powerful pc at it and make it run fine

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of course that costs money, but its an option, pc is about options

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:09 PM

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True

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And pc graphics are much better than console graphics

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:10 PM

#

for me fps>graphics (i play mostly everything low)

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:10 PM

#

Games like battlefield look absolutely beautiful on pc while kinda meh on console

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Heck even on low still looks better than console

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No downscaling

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And much better frames but that's a given

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But with an i7 and 1080 u only get 100fps on bf1 low?

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:11 PM

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console has its place, and you have the option for both, i have a ps4 pro and a pc with a gpu that costs more than my ps4 pro in total

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:11 PM

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True

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:11 PM

#

i play at 1440p resolution

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:11 PM

#

Ah

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:11 PM

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so twice as much pixels as 1080p

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 6:11 PM

#

console owners push more hate on PC than ther other way around 😉

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:11 PM

#

1440p > console 1080p

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Even on low

#

True

#

I mean to each their own

#

Pc more expensive yes, but imo worth it

rose eagle Oct 31, 2018, 6:12 PM

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if a debate is brought up ill gladly slam my 144hz 100+ fps e-peen down

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but i dont actively care

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Same

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:12 PM

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i started console, i didnt have money for a pc, but ever since i started working i built a pc, and im never looking back

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Once u go 144hz u cant go back

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Once you look at the price tag, you never wanna look at it again

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Man to me even gaming on my garbage staples laptop at 600x800 10fps back in the day it was better than console

#

Imo I find the pc community a lot more accepting

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At least it was back in the day

#

Getting a little toxic now

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:13 PM

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"Little"

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:13 PM

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But back in the day everyone was super chill and we'd all laugh about my game being a slideshow lol

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:13 PM

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@jolly iron you could build a good pc off used parts that will easily beat an xbox

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:14 PM

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But they're still gonna be $200 more than an Xbox

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:14 PM

#

no they wont

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:14 PM

#

Eh depends on the person - I find pc people nowadays are either super toxic or not at all

#

Plus pc saves money on online access (free) and the massive sales (steam sales, humble bundle, etc.)

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:14 PM

#

An average low-tier graphics card runs $200

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:15 PM

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So u kinda save in the long run

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:15 PM

#

low tier new gpu from 10xx series is way better than the gpu in an xbox

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Can also upgrade specific parts of your pc at a time rather than the entire thing

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:15 PM

#

a standard xbox basically has a 750 ti in there, you can get that gpu for 50 bucks used easily

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:15 PM

#

When ps5 comes out u gotta chuck your whole ps4

#

And true

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

#

I don't think you understand exactly how shit prices are for me

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

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now, that doesnt mean with a similar priced pc compared to a console youll get the same perf, because devs optimize console diligently

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Only reason console does okay on crappy specs is cause super thin OS and games are optimized for the specific hardware (pc more difficult to optimize due to wide range of hardware)

#

Yah

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

#

A $186 USD processor is $324 CDN

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Roughly

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

#

Pc harder to optimize due to wide range of hardware

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:16 PM

#

welp, youre screwed xD

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

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And yeah I feel u man I'm in Canada too

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

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i build budget pcs for friends all the time

glossy cove Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

#

Press F to pay respek GWfroggySadCat

📎 wam.PNG

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

#

Gotta get those Black Friday deals

#

Respek

#

F

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

#

4k monitor with those specs?

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Yeah, but I'm broke

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

#

This man lives on the edge

glossy cove Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

#

My specs don't make no sense GWfroggySadCat

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:17 PM

#

4k > fps for some

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To each their own but I'm not getting 4k till it can do 144fps

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

#

i mean, what fps does that get though?

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

#

My PC can run DS3 barely

glossy cove Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

#

I play CSGO in 4K just fine

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

#

Anything can run csgo tho

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

#

i built a pc that can run ds3 easily for about 300 bucks

glossy cove Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

#

But mostly FM and Ci🅱

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:18 PM

#

Super optimized game

jolly iron Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Again, American prices

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Or at least not prices that I see

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

#

RIP Canadian dollar

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

#

lol that sucks

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

#

Pc stuff goes on made sale in Canada too tho

#

I'm getting a new monitor black Friday

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

#

1440p?

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

#

Yeah

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

#

dell?

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:19 PM

#

144hz g sync 1440p

#

Asus

#

I'll link

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:20 PM

#

bleh

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:20 PM

#

😮

#

Asus hate?

#

They're good imo

storm osprey Oct 31, 2018, 6:20 PM

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nah, overpaying hate

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im a bang for buck kinda person

red ingot Oct 31, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Ah I see

#

Fair enough