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storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 12:00 AM

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how many more fps do you get from a new stove?

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 12:00 AM

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perhaps she wants to see that wombraider some more

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 12:00 AM

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She gets like 60% faster heating performance

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 12:00 AM

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I don't know man.

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 12:00 AM

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Cuts her wait time by half during preheat

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I didn't even get a 50% boost

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 12:01 AM

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did you try flowers

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pls not too expensive, u need a new case

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 12:02 AM

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They case thing will require some finesse for sure

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Nothing is hot, this case may be the best thing ever lol

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They don't make stuff like they used to 😉

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 12:21 AM

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I picked up that Thermaltake Core P3 TG open-frame, temps went WAY down combined with the Cooler Master Masterliquid 120.

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And I can mount this sucker on the wall. 😄

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 12:41 AM

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Best find some serious studs but why the hell lol

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 12:47 AM

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is serious stud

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 1:43 AM

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@rose eagle Plan to mount it in the living room beneath the upper cabinetry to post directly to the television and move it out of the guest room. 😄

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@rose eagle Going to install a HD60 Pro into it to grab video even when I am not streaming, that way I can edit through a workflow instead of relying on Twitch/Youtube to do it.

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Got a lot of plans for this year.

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😉

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 1:58 AM

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that sounds like a very niche reason haha

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projects,i wish i had some but i have a kid

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:16 AM

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@rose eagle LOL, I have two, but you've gotta find your outlet somewhere.

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 2:18 AM

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tell my wife that

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i did buy a 65" Samsung tv and about $3000 worth of audio equip to have a better movie watching experience

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but nothing "fun" to keep me busy

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:48 AM

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You should get your mid-life crisis mobile

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Maybe a nice 911

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Actually, not a 911

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Get an aston martin

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Yeah, buy a Ford.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Hmm?

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Aston is an independent company these days.

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Actually had their IPO not long ago.

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:54 AM

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"independent" 😄 we know where they got their know-how from, and it sure wasn't ye ole Brittania

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:54 AM

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I mean, I'd rather drive an aston then a ford

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So they did something right

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Huh ford hasn't had owned aston since 2007

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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I'd want a car that's made to drive, not made to flash. That's the 911 (with the exception of the racing-type Astons--seen them do well at Sebring 12-hrs ALMS). 😉

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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I want a car that's made to drive, not made to race

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Yeah, pretty much after the ball dropped on the economy.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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hence why I want a big boat

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Ford started to off-load ailing brands.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Like a mercedes s-class coupe

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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All the big-three did.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Still pissy about GM and Pontiac

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Same.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:57 AM

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And Saturn

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I've owned 2 saturns

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both were satisfactory

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:58 AM

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Mercedes are pretty cool, but unless it's an AMG, they're getting more plastic-ish and they're notoriously unreliable... about as bad as old Lancia or Alfa Romeo.

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Gorgeous designs all of them, horrible sustainment cost.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:58 AM

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I mean, you don't buy a German car these days

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You lease them

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To unreliable to own

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VW is an exception to this, and Audi to an extant as well

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:59 AM

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I've owned four Germans, three Audis and a VW. Never had an issue with them with the exception of coil packs and one TT had a transmission issue.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Though I wouldn't want to own a older one of either much past warranty period

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Toyota, specifically Lexus, has my money now though.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 3:00 AM

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I wouldn't mind having a lexus

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Their nice cars

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 3:00 AM

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I picked up an RC F a couple of years ago on trade from an IS 250 (70K miles and still got $14.5K for it) and it's been a great car.

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I have a Mini Cooper S for running around town as well, but the RC F is what I stretch legs with on the road.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 3:01 AM

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I want a 90's lexus real bad. One of the ones with the 1jz/2jz in them

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 3:01 AM

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You can get them relatively cheap these days.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 3:01 AM

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I know

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 3:01 AM

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Pretty good condition, but high mileage.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 3:01 AM

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I almost picked one up but passed on it to do...something

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I forget what

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I mean I'd be completely rebuilding the engine/trans so that wouldn't be a problem

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haven't found any others on the old craigslist, though

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Yeah, hard pickings there now that they shut down some sections of the site that drew a lot of the darker side of the Internet, LOL.

prime raptor Oct 24, 2018, 3:03 AM

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You know I'm pissed I missed out on that

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Still plenty of other cool stuff on there I need to not buy

worn charm Oct 24, 2018, 11:35 AM

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anyone ever had an issue on BF4 where it behaves as if you're constantly holding down left click?

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menus/other games/windows works just fine

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just replace my monitor

sharp gorge Oct 24, 2018, 11:55 AM

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@worn charm Just random button lags like ''w/s/left click/right click , but always stops with click of the ''issued'' button

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 1:16 PM

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is there any tech expert here?

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tbh i'm experienced with tech, but even i didn't manage to solve my problem myself

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(general, not just battlefield)

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any help is appreciated😉

forest token Oct 24, 2018, 1:32 PM

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ask and you may receive, but not from me because I am busy working on a speech about video games and I should be sleeping

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 1:38 PM

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ok

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my keyboard (bulit-in my laptop) sometimes doesn't work after boot. if i connect an external keyboard while it doesn't work, both of them immediately start working

worn charm Oct 24, 2018, 1:45 PM

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@sharp gorge unbinding all my infantry joystick binds did it but I don't have a controller plugged in so it's strange

pastel lily Oct 24, 2018, 2:06 PM

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@left raven lets start with the OS, does it work if you use other OS other than the ones that is installed? And what OS are you using

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 2:10 PM

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windows 10

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 2:22 PM

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format

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 3:04 PM

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lol

lofty light Oct 24, 2018, 3:33 PM

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What laptop do you have?

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 3:50 PM

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asus ultrabook a56c

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:16 PM

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format

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 4:19 PM

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why

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you aren't helping

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:20 PM

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because that problem is horrific

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if i were at a user's machine at work i would completely pull it from production and give them a new machine

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but since it's yours you're limited , took me 1 hour total to format my pc the other day and get all software reinstalled

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the time to troubleshoot the issue probably takes longer

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i dont see any drivers for that laptop that you could try to reinstall

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 4:22 PM

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i tried to

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:22 PM

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here's something to try next time it happens, right click Start and go to device manager (its one of the options) and go to keyboards and see if you can scan for hardware changes or see if there's any ! by the devices etc

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or maybe force remove it and re-detect

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 4:23 PM

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i deleted the driver already, same issue

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probably not up to the driver at all

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:24 PM

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ok so you removed the device entirely from dev manager

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 4:24 PM

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yes

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:24 PM

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yea i mean at that point, sounds fkd

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;P

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 4:24 PM

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damn windows 10

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:24 PM

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is this after a new win 10 update?

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 4:24 PM

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what's the update called?

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i don't know i can't turn them off, so im fked

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:25 PM

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one just came out the last week or so, has it been happening for longer than that?

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 4:25 PM

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yes but could be updates...

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i want to install windows 7...

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:26 PM

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its end of life is in like 1 yr

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 4:26 PM

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i know

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but windows 10 is extreme trash

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i miss the good old days

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windows xp

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:27 PM

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98se > *

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if you reformat you can do a 100% clean install of win10 with the latest version

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feels good to do anyway

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with Origin and Steam.. games just hook back up zero issues

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i made a list of sw i needed to re-download, took no time at all

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but as always, make sure you dont lose anything out of my documents or desktop or elsewhere ;D

left raven Oct 24, 2018, 4:30 PM

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but i don't use origin and steam 😆

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i don't want to reformat though

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because i would have windows 10 again

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 4:43 PM

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ahhhh super good deal on Fractal Design Mesh C today on Amazonnnnn

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damnitttttttt

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must.. justify.. to.. wife

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but i also need a new psu to go to all this trouble x_x.. buying without would require a complete tear down again once i get a new PSU in December

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:38 PM

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do it do it do it

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 5:39 PM

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im talking to best buy right now to get a psu since i have $100 in points

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having to price match

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EVGA G3 850 is on sale for $100, pretty great deal

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dont need 850 but its same damn price as 750 so

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:45 PM

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lol yea thats why i got an 850w as well, and you never know if you could use it, might as well as be safe

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:45 PM

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do you think pc gaming is becoming more expensive

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im struggling with a gtx 1050 and i5 7400 to play bf1 on anything hgiher than low

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and im worried how i will cope with bf5

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:46 PM

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i mean, 1050 is not a great graphics card

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:46 PM

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does it get better

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as the numbers go up

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:46 PM

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yes

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:46 PM

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what do you have

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:46 PM

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1080

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:47 PM

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it just feels like the graphics r getting

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more more

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but tech has to get expensive with it

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:47 PM

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1050<1050ti<1060 3gb<10606gb< 1070<1070 ti< 1080<1080 ti

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:47 PM

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jesus

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is a gtx 1070

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good

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:48 PM

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oh yea

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:48 PM

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why are they so expensive

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:48 PM

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1060 6gb is basically the perfect 1080p gpu, 1070 starts getting into 1440p territory

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:48 PM

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oh ok

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so if i have a 1080p monitor their is no reason to go higher

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:49 PM

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nvidia basically doesnt have any competition, so they can kinda do what they want

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i mean, my friends use 1080p 144hz monitors and they have 1070s

balmy granite Oct 24, 2018, 5:49 PM

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some one knnow how i can fix the dx device removed error from bf1?

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:49 PM

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1060 is stil like

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200-300 quid

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 5:49 PM

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1050<1050ti<1060 3gb<10606gb< 1070<1070 ti< 1080<2070<1080 ti<2080<2080Ti 😄

balmy granite Oct 24, 2018, 5:50 PM

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some one knnow how i can fix the dx device removed error from bf1?

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 5:50 PM

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you're on my screen twice

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:50 PM

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@balmy granite try doing a clean install of your gpu drivers

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:51 PM

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google it

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 5:51 PM

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google > waiting on humans

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:51 PM

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@prime jasper yea prices are not cheap, but imo worth it.

balmy granite Oct 24, 2018, 5:51 PM

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everything i do not work,i already reset my computer 3 times

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 5:51 PM

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we just discuss fun tech here, not tech support 😄

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:51 PM

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dont reset, download and clean install gpu drivers

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 5:52 PM

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reformat

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:52 PM

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i assume dx is direct x which should be gpu

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 5:52 PM

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@unborn epoch cmon i need backup

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:53 PM

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do you think i will be able to run bf5 with my 1050

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playable

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 5:53 PM

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non Ti?

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:53 PM

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i wouldnt put much faith in it

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 5:53 PM

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yea it wont be very stable

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:53 PM

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you might get like 50 fps on low settings

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:54 PM

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thats good enough for me

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very playable

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:55 PM

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bf1 with your set up is showing 50-70 fps

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:56 PM

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i play bf1 with no problems

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:56 PM

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so thats not as bad as i thought it would be. at the beginning of bfv you probably wont get that good of fps but they will optimize

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:56 PM

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i just put mesh quality on high and the game still looks great

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and t-aa

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:56 PM

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imo i put everything low or off except textures

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:58 PM

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do you play bf1 or bf4

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what u prefer

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i never played bf4 but i hate bf1 right now it fels like an arcade game

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 5:58 PM

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i played both, dont play any right now

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if i have to say i prefer bf4, but its been years since i played

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bf1 imo is a clusterfuck

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 5:59 PM

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they put it on sale

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for less than the older game

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and made all dlc's free

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literally 4 pounds to get the whole game

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:00 PM

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yea thats why i bought bf1

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glad i only paid 10 dollars for everything (at the time the dlc wasnt free)

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:00 PM

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ya same i paid 9 pounds

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:01 PM

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what resolution and what size monitor are you using?

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:01 PM

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how do i check lol

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oh uhh

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1920 x 1080

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i dont know the size

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:02 PM

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if youre 24" i would turn off anti aliasing, thats super taxing on fps

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27" 1080p is pretty pixelated so i would use AA

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 6:03 PM

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ya

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if you have problems with your pc and it took you already 15 minutes to find thep roblem

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format

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:03 PM

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turtle face!

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 6:03 PM

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yoYoyYoyOyoO

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:03 PM

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yo digggity

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where are you from again?

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 6:05 PM

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welp, the deed is done... Fractal Design - Meshify C White incoming along with EVGA G3 850

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i just moved all my movies to an external so i wont even need my 1tb drive or bays

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just 2 SSDs mounted

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modular power supply should hopefully remove excess cables dangling everywhere

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:07 PM

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niiiiice

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tell me how you like it

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 6:08 PM

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i mean, it's like having a tube tv and moving to a 4k most likely

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anything will look good? 😄

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:08 PM

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idk what case you had, i just know it had those purple bay locks or whatever they are called

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 6:08 PM

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this old case will be promptly thrown in my trash bin, it's not even worth keeping to build another PC in

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oh lol havent been following eh?

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my case is full ATX from circa 2000 ;P

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all metal

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with 15 yr old dust in it

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:10 PM

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is colour format (RGB) the same as

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dispaly type

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(LED)

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or are they two dfferent things

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:14 PM

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rgb means red, green, blue. being the "primary colors" you can theoretically recreate any color. so if something says its rgb it means you can change the color to anything you want

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led is the technology use to create the lights

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:15 PM

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ok thnaks

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oh you know about the 24 inch dont use AA

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i can tell a big difference by eye

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but is it worth having off

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:15 PM

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yea you will be able to tell a difference

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:15 PM

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i check now about the fps difference

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:16 PM

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its smoothing edges, but i personally like sharper edges, and on a 1080p 24" monitor you shouldnt be getting any images that are THAT pixelated

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:16 PM

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its 23.6 does that matter

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:16 PM

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nopes

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hardly any monitor or screen is truly the size it says it is

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 6:17 PM

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thats what she said

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:17 PM

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exactly

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:17 PM

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what about fxaa medium

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:17 PM

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i personally try to not use AA at all if i can help it

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just smooths/blends pixels to make the image less sharp

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at the cost of fps

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:18 PM

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it makes it look hairy

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:18 PM

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if jaggies REALLY both you then sure, go ahead and use it

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i just try to have it off when i can

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:18 PM

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dude

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is it normal

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im in the uk

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and i literally have never had a game

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where ther ei sno mesage on the right

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its always like

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latency

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ping

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or some shit

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but on every other game

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i have zero problems

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and i thought it would be due to so many players but on fortnite im fine also

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:19 PM

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so youre saying in game you always have the message saying you have high ping?

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just depends the servers you are connecting to

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:20 PM

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when i press tab it says im fine

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but in game and on the right i can feel it

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:20 PM

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if i connect to euro servers i get ping of 160+, if i get an american server im around 30-50

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:20 PM

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also what is latency?

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nvm il google it

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:21 PM

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yea idk if i know how to explain it

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:21 PM

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the time it takes

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:21 PM

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sending and receiving packets of data is taking too long?

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:21 PM

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to go from ur side to the other

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:22 PM

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try connecting to servers in your region, youre probably getting connected to american servers

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:22 PM

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aight

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man im really looking forward to bf5

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:24 PM

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bfv beta was very good

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 6:25 PM

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thanks for the general help

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you a good guy

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 6:25 PM

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lol thanks

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and no problems

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 6:35 PM

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i am now that my 2070 is runnin! 😄

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here's some weird things... Bfront 2 ran worse on my 970 than BF1 which makes sense, but runs better than BF1 on my 2070

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so i have renewed faith in the 2070 to run V on the newer frostbite

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Well it’s gonna run it easily lol

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 6:42 PM

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not really, im in 1440p

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and bfront 2 is now running trash

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 6:42 PM

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I am too

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With a 1080

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 6:42 PM

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i just got 94 fps avg in a map

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47 1% time, absolute garbage

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same map, 81 low, 135 avg now

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im just running 30s benchmarks.. i wonder if you have to just let everything load for a full minute first to get into texture memory.. makes no sense

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94 vs 135 average fps on same card same map is extreme

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 6:52 PM

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Battlefront 2?

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 6:53 PM

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yea

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1% low as 94fps is 100% where i want to be

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Oh

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Nice

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 6:55 PM

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video card has been physically removed from the system error, fun

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i mean i havent played in over a year so now i dont know if these problems are due to 2070 or not

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or if its my tiny overclock or just infant drivers

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:17 PM

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is bf1 horribly unoptimized?

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feel like bfront 2 runs incredibly better

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@storm osprey any suggestions for fans? it "can" take 1 120mm bot, 3x120 or 2x140 front, 2x 140 top, 1x 120 back

lament thistle Oct 24, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Enermax and Corsair

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And you definitely can't go wrong with noctua

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:29 PM

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eww enermax?

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i mean, they are decent, but idk, they always seemed cut rate to me

lament thistle Oct 24, 2018, 7:29 PM

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Yeah they're new ones are actually pretty good

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:30 PM

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@rose eagle depends budget and what you want

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:30 PM

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actually i more meant IF and hwo big

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like 3x 120 OR 2x 140 front

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i dont see a point in top fans, bottom could help but why suck air out if you're already blowing it up

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eject the heat farther!! 😄

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its already leaving the damn case

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:31 PM

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oh, i personally like how 3 120's look in the front

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:32 PM

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this is a family home so budget friendly but quiet

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:32 PM

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but i can see 2 140's looking nice as well

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:32 PM

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not going to be glowing lights flashing everywhere

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my kid would attack it

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:32 PM

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if you are going for bang for buck id get 2 140s

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:32 PM

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i mean it damn well better perform better than my full tower case from hell 😄

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:33 PM

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you want at least 1 exhaust fan though, just to take out the hot air

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pulls it away from components

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more fans pulling in cold air so you have positive pressure

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will also help with dust

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3 fans is optimal, each fan added after 3 fans only decreases temps by 1 degree

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but adding fans do decrease the noise since each individual fan has to work less to move the same amount of air

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BUT if youre gpus are anything like mine, the gpu is usually louder than anything else in my build

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i use cougar fans, they are usually on sale and have a good airflow to noise ratio especially for the price

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 7:36 PM

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BF1 is pretty well optimized

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:38 PM

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the fact this case only has 1 rear slot is a bit eh

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even my current has 2

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"but adding fans do decrease the noise since each individual fan has to work less to move the same amount of air"

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assuming you have something monitoring temps...?

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:39 PM

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i use hw monitor

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but i have not done this testing myself, mostly watching videos

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and i really doubt adding fans will decrease noise at a noticeable degree, but it does measure less

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:41 PM

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mobo temps?

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or just monitor cpu tempo

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i guess there could be an ambient probe in some cases

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:41 PM

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hw monitor measures temps for mob, cpu, hdd, and gpu

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:41 PM

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that make fans spin up or down

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$$$

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thats what i was referring to, somethign that throttles fan speeds til needed like a gpu

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:42 PM

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yea there are PWM (pulse width modulation) fans that change according to temp

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they connect to your mobo 4 pin fan headers

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4 pin is for pwm

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you can buy 3 pin fans and they just push the same amount of air no matter what

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:43 PM

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sounds like i just need to get two 140mm fans for front, it comes with 2 120s

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so i can put one in the back and one at bottom, then the 2 140s in front

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sounds solid to start with

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:43 PM

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one at the bottom?

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:44 PM

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shrug, better than top pulling?

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:44 PM

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unless that case is different than mine, i dont think theres a spot for fans on the bottom

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:45 PM

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https://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/meshify/meshify-c

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that what you got?

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:45 PM

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im almost certain they are saying 120 fan at bottom for the psu

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ok nvm i see

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i looked up a picture

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thats where the HDD bay will go, so if you take that out you can put a fan there

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:47 PM

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nice, yea i wont have one

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i think this says i can mount 3 SSDs on the back

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:47 PM

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but its kinda useless since you have a psu shroud

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yea theres a mounting bracket right behind the cpu

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:47 PM

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i use a cd rom sometimes but i guess i can just hook it up ghetto when required 😄

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oof $28 for Corsair 140mm white LEDs

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be cool to have just plain white in the front of that dark mesh

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181048

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:49 PM

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i would get 2 pwm fans for the front, to regulate temperatures / noise

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 7:51 PM

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i guess i should see what my mobo supports

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 7:53 PM

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yea, imo i would fill as much pwm slots as your mb supports

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 8:08 PM

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just make sure you format

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:10 PM

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lol

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new case and psu def a reformat!

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i mean, i do have that driver problem possibility upgrading to a 2070 😉

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are there no 9700k BF1 benchmarks out yet from legit sites?

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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oh you bought a new mousepad?

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format

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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well that one is obvious

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speaking.. this mousepad is also from ~2000

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has tech come anywhere on them? =/

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

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one day, my stuff will be old

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i mean, im sure new pads technically track better but idk if anyone would be able to tell a difference

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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mine is a soft material

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

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just put cloth mousepads in the washer from time to time

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:13 PM

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yea this has like, cracks in the material kinda worn

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:13 PM

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i body wash my pad

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:13 PM

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and some black specs

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:13 PM

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works best so far without damaging it

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:15 PM

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whats up with those full width ones under a keyboard

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:16 PM

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i have two

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one for work one for home

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:16 PM

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just nice never having to adjust it? lol

wet notch Oct 24, 2018, 8:16 PM

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i have a deskpad, and ontop of it a normal steelseries one

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:16 PM

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O_o

wet notch Oct 24, 2018, 8:17 PM

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deskpad is fine for normal windows stuff, but its kind of worn out now, so its soft and feels good against my hands

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but i use steelseries for gaming

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:17 PM

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i just like big mouse pads, and they look cool

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:17 PM

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the massive corsair textured

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sounds like a good christmas present

wet notch Oct 24, 2018, 8:18 PM

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its nice to never have to adjust mousepad or bother about where your mouse is

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 8:19 PM

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ah man there is sexy white corsair ram

graceful pond Oct 24, 2018, 8:29 PM

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Hello BF community, I just wanted to know where I could get a second opinion about which GPU to buy for my current system. Are there any forums or places where I could get some opinions on this matter? Thanks

unborn epoch Oct 24, 2018, 8:30 PM

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what resolution

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what system

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make sure you format

graceful pond Oct 24, 2018, 8:36 PM

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is this a place to mention such things? Sorry to sound like a complete noob

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 8:36 PM

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yeah

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everything to do with tech

snow chasm Oct 24, 2018, 8:38 PM

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What could I achieve with a GTX 1060?

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BF1

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Considering to upgrade

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 8:41 PM

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Framerate wise? When I had my old 1060, I got anywhere from 75-105 really, depending on what’s going on (Ultra settings of course)

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That was with a 5820k

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1060 can get well over 60fps at 1080p

snow chasm Oct 24, 2018, 8:42 PM

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I have an i3-7100

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With gtx 1050ti

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I get around 30 fps 64player

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High setting

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1080p

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 8:43 PM

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A 1060 6GB would do much better

graceful pond Oct 24, 2018, 8:43 PM

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So I want to buy a new GPU after new years so that I can get the best deal possible and I'd like to get any recommendations on which GPU I should get. The CPU I have is the Ryzen 1600x (watercooled) with 16GB RAM at 2400Mhz. (can OC to 3200ish) and I play at 1080p 144hz.

snow chasm Oct 24, 2018, 8:44 PM

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Is my cpu fine tho

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:48 PM

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i3 is not recommended for bf

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imo you want 4c8t or 6c minimum

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1060 6gb for 1080p is the sweet spot

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@graceful pond if you want to push 144hz i recommend a 1070

graceful pond Oct 24, 2018, 8:50 PM

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@storm osprey I've looked into it for a couple of months and the 1070ti seems like a fair GPU for my current system but I'm just worried if it can handle newer games in the near future

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:51 PM

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at 1080p the 1070ti is a VERY capable card

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i use a 1080 (barely better than 1070ti) and i use it for 1440p gaming

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 8:51 PM

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Same here

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:51 PM

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i dont use ultra settings, but i get at least 100 fps in most games

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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ultra is a waste tbh

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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^

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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Yeah

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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i dont noticed the difference

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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id rather have frames

graceful pond Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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I was looking into upgrading to 1440p but its just a bit too costly the monitors and to pick either a new gpu or a monitor im gonna pick gpu

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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between the second highest setting in a game and the highest

rustic hinge Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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High is basically identical

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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yeah

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maybe some differences

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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i low everything but textures and draw distance

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 8:53 PM

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i keep particles on

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i love me some particles

graceful pond Oct 24, 2018, 8:55 PM

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are you allowed to send links in this?

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:55 PM

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ye

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at least ive seen links without and hassle on it

winged tapir Oct 24, 2018, 8:56 PM

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GWfroggyPeepoDetective

graceful pond Oct 24, 2018, 8:56 PM

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Well this is the GPU I'd grab after the new year so that I could maybe save £100 or so https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-gaming-8gb-gddr5-vr-ready-graphics-card-2432-core-1607mhz-gpu-1683mhz-boost

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:57 PM

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prices on 10xx series of cards will probably only go up from here except for a few sales

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since rtx cards are out

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but this isnt a normal gpu cycle so theres no say for sure

graceful pond Oct 24, 2018, 8:57 PM

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wouldnt they be cheaper due to the new cards being released?

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 8:58 PM

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depends on supply and demand

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1080 cards were cheaper a few months ago than they are now

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the cheapest i saw a 1080 was 400$

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the cheapest now is 430 for one i wouldnt recommend

graceful pond Oct 24, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Alright well thanks, I'm most likely going to grab the 1070ti after new years

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 9:41 PM

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people arent willing to jump to rtx so the 10xx will prob remain a friggin premium til stock is gone lol

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my cpu temps are bouncing all over 69-75c every second, dont remember the sensor being that inaccurate before

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during an OCCT burn the hell out of it test

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

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Yeah, I have a 1070ti, I was so hyped for the 20XX series, I was going to get a 2070ti, but after seeing benchmarks & how its turned out, I'll be sticking with my 1070ti until the next series, like a lot of folks

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@graceful pond From what I see, the prices have gone down a tiny bit, but nothing drastic, & it seems the majority of people are holding onto their 10XX cards as well, due to how things turned out with RTX

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Wouldn't even be surprised if they started to rise again

vapid pebble Oct 24, 2018, 10:30 PM

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When I grabbed my 1080ti, I got it for 660 shipped, which was like 150 or so cheaper than I had seen it for many months. About a week after that, it was next to impossible to find one in stock, or for anything less than 800

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 10:37 PM

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prices are so volatile its insane

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 10:40 PM

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yea it sucks that $650 was a "steal" and wishing i had gotten one

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or a 1080 for $400

vapid pebble Oct 24, 2018, 10:59 PM

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Yeah, 660 is hardly what Id call cheap trust me, but considering how bad it was a few months ago, it seems like dirty cheap somehow. I got worried about the supply drying up and prices going back up so I said might as well bite the bullet now.

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:06 PM

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I paid $480 for my 1070ti

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Now idk how much they are.. $380?

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 11:07 PM

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my friend who i did a build for got a 1070ti for 460, with a evga psu

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:08 PM

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Damn wtf, cheapest I see is $410, & a lot of places are still selling really high

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Oh nvm

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Thats sold out

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 11:11 PM

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@plain vessel i had seen a 1080 for 400 either through newegg deal or massdrop

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i remember pcpartpicker wasnt showing the promotion so it had to be one of those two

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Cheapest is a zotac for $420, for a 1070ti that I see, and Zotac is kinda.. Ehh, can't find anything on them

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 11:12 PM

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jesus christ

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i got my 1080 for 550

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:13 PM

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I only have 1080p, so I don't think a 1080ti would exactly do too much for me

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144

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https://i.imgur.com/a7busYK.png

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I 100% need more RAM

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I misordered my RAM by bookmarking the wrong page on Neweg.. Lul

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Yeah, I was on VRChat last night, & went to open Chrome, & I got a message about being out of memory, lol

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Yes

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I don't plan on getting 32GBs

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 11:17 PM

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16gb is fine, unles you are opening everything in the world you shouldnt run into problems

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:17 PM

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I think so, if I recall, some guy in another server was doing 3x4 with a 2600, perhaps he was lying though, or perhaps I'm not remembering correctly

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think_dumb

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:18 PM

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@plain vessel there was a one month

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Window 1080 and ti were slashed in prices

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Bhphoto had crazy deals but then RTX came out and everything shot back up lol

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Black Friday will probably see $350 1070tis and $400 1080s, maybe even cheaper

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:19 PM

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I have an overpriced to shit 2070

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Don't bet on there being good Black Friday deals

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:20 PM

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I wouldn't even trade my 1070ti right now on the spot for a 2070 free of charge

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:20 PM

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10xx stock drying up and competitively priced against 20xx

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It's the same basically

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:20 PM

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1070ti and 1080 are practically the same on base clocks

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:21 PM

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And don't count on 2070 being good enough to do rtx but alas I own one anyway

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Cause I wasn't going to pay $500 for a 1080

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Or you could blow a lot of money & get the 2080ti

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:22 PM

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That's not approved by the wife

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 11:22 PM

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if you can, i recommend everyone wait for ryzen 7nm cpus to be announced

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which is in a few months....

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:22 PM

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My bday is in March so they better deliver

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I don't like the Creator and gaming mode bs though

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Right now I am trying to find some DDR2 @ 1066Mhz (or possibly DDR3 @ 1333Mhz, but unknown as the specification page for the MB is a bit vague whether support exists).

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:23 PM

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What res?

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:23 PM

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I wonder how different that m.2 and the Samsung 860 Evo are

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Insanely different but real world? Not so much

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1440p you won't need as beefy a CPU

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Hmm well, I got too much important shit I don't feel like migrating atm anyways, so I'll stick with my 860, plus I need more RAM & a new keyboard before that

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:24 PM

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970 Evo is fkin fast as hell, blows 860 away but the game engine can only work so fast

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It doesn't help during play at all

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 11:24 PM

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i mean, look at it like this, for the average gaming consumer a ssd will load windows in roughly 20 seconds, if a ssd is x2 faster thats only 10 seconds, but youll pay up the ass for the x2 faster ssd

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Also, only 750GB of storage? I already used that up, lol, at least get a HDD to store files in, etc.

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:25 PM

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I got a 250 for os and programs and 500 for games

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I keep it clean ;)

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Ahh, I have a 2TB HDD and a 500GB SSD

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 11:26 PM

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@storm osprey On the current build (4Ghz OC'd Q9650 w/ 8Gb/800Mhz dual-channel), I load W10 in about 20 seconds. 😄 That's an old machine doing work!

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:26 PM

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My Mobo doesn't support m.2 or I'd snag a 500 they're only $150

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Price dropped

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 11:26 PM

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if m.2 is roughly same price, its not using m.2 tech, and imo m.2 speeds are not worth it for consumer grade stuff

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:28 PM

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I went to check the stored amount on my HDD, and it stopped trying after about 157GBs

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I know theres over half a TB there though

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idk it just shits itself when I try and see how much data is there

molten bramble Oct 24, 2018, 11:29 PM

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The Samsung 860 EVO SSD in the build opened up a new world of speed on the box for sure. I'm tempted to swap in two more for the storage drives as archive and scratch disks.

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SSDs are so cheap right now, why not?

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Then I'll take those two REDs and setup a third NAS in the flat.

storm osprey Oct 24, 2018, 11:30 PM

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i keep wanting to get more ssd's but prices keep dropping im just waiting

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:30 PM

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The 970 Evo is literally 350% faster than 860 but battlefield won't load 3.5x faster

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Limited by to many other things

prime jasper Oct 24, 2018, 11:30 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/74XtNwR.png

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515GBs

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And another 340GBs on my SSD

rose eagle Oct 24, 2018, 11:31 PM

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860 does like 400MB/s if a game engine ever needs that during run we're screwed

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 2:11 AM

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So was 9700/9900 basically a paper launch? Everywhere just has coming soon

lofty light Oct 25, 2018, 3:20 AM

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Sounds like it

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 3:20 AM

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Pooperlunch

lofty light Oct 25, 2018, 3:20 AM

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Kinda like my 2080ti has been put on backorder twice now

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Nice

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 4:04 AM

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Should I vlog my formatting adventures

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 4:35 AM

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those are still a thing?

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my case goes to my right so i just realized how the hell am i gonna see the window since its on the right

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it was gonna go horizontal with the front facing me but that wont work

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Refurniture the house is the only option

lofty light Oct 25, 2018, 4:42 AM

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I've got a really wide desk so mine is behind my monitors

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 4:44 AM

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ha.. nice, can adjust color of LED for 2070 based on temp

lofty light Oct 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Oh noice! My lighting kit does that but not the card

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:04 AM

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Just seen a Vega 56 with 400% power overheard

lofty light Oct 25, 2018, 9:01 AM

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Was that the GN one?

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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will it catch fire after 1 month of use? 😄

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 3:01 PM

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oof a local 1080ti just went on sale for $550 😄

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good ole facebook marketplace

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 3:34 PM

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1080s are grossly overpriced, 1080Ti seems to be lower

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450 for a used 1080 is the dumbest thing ever

snow chasm Oct 25, 2018, 3:53 PM

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^

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 4:46 PM

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i want to make a full custom waterloop for my gpu/cpu

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my gpu gets a little noisy

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7700k and 1080ti

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in a h200i case

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the 1080ti gets stupid loud yes

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evga SC2 or some shit

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twin fan

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it's ok if I lower power consumption to 80% and change fancurve to only to up to 30%

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it'll get 85c max

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but i wont get full 1080ti power

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it doesn't, but it OCs and gets hot and loud

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also since i'm pushing games to 165

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fps*

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that'd be the best solution yeah

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the h200i is only a mitx case

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there's room for one 280rad i think

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i have no idea, never built a watercooling loop

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lul

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hmm

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EK has no block for the 1080ti sc2

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oh well, i'll give full watercooling a try next build

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it should be, it has 2x14cm intakes and 1x14cm outtake (cpu cooler)

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https://i.imgur.com/wXUTz5K.jpg

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waterblock would be way better though for the gpu

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haha yeah

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i can run cpu at 5ghz no problem

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sits at 65~70c when playing BF1 depending on temperature outside

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too bad the gpu is noisy ;c

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ya im kind of anal about sound

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i have another computer, which is smaller

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https://i.imgur.com/Q8KOPaf.png this little beast

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but it gets noisy when gaming, for obvious reasons

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i wanted my pc to be as small as possible and as silent

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but my next build is going to care less about size and more about noise

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sadly swapping out case/fans/cooling solution is costly

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i dont have the blocks

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the block alone will cost me that

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unless im going to make some ghettoass cpublock + a way to cool VRM

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:09 PM

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Aio is the way to go if you can't afford custom

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Imo

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:09 PM

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i rather do it properly

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aio is possible i guess just for the GPU

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I have room in the font of my case, cpu doesn't need watercooling

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Well yeah unless you buy one of those overpriced hybrid cards

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:10 PM

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i'm in a weird position right now where i shouldn't

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i bought a 1080ti for dirtcheap, can't really buy a 2080 or 1080ti hybrid now, makes no sense

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ill deal with the noise, crank up the volume when gaming i guess

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:11 PM

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The 1080 will do you good for a while longer tbh

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:11 PM

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oh sure

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the 1080ti survives the 2000 and most likely the 3000 series

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:11 PM

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For sure

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:12 PM

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raytracing isn't a thing, game development lacks in that regard anyway (sadly)

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i want all games to be path/raytraced. Maybe in 10 years.

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VR 240fps, that's the dream man.

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hopefully i wont be old and rusty by that time

strong breach Oct 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Im not even personally interested in rtx

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Much rather would save a buck and get 1080ti

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Proper raytracing is something to be very excited about. It's just too new

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So if you are looking to buy a card and the possibility is there to snag a 1080ti for cheap. Go that route

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AMD pls man the fucc up and start competing in the high end sector again pls

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Or Intel I don't care.

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imagine man, real time raytracing at a rate of 240 times per second on a resolution of 4K or something.

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Dude heck no

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All computers have intel

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:19 PM

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the gpu market needs more competition

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:19 PM

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You does not need competition

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:19 PM

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amd is doing very wel on the gpu end, intel does nothing on the dedicated gpu market, let them try

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we DO need competition, what are you on about

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AMD is slacking, why do you think nvidia's cards are so stinking expensive now

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:20 PM

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All computers have Intel without computers or laptop would not been in a great graphic look

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:20 PM

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I don't understand what you mean. Can you please rephrase that?

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Intel putz the graphics in first

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Without Intel the graphics would look plain.

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:21 PM

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You mean games?

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Are you talking about intel's integrated graphics in their CPUs?

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That does nothing for the high end market.

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Or I'm not understanding you, in that case sorry.

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Lol Intel and graphics

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Their Integrated GPU is Garbage

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:23 PM

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the pro series is good for what it's made for, but it's no where near good for anything intensive :p

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Without Gpus there would not be good

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GPU would never been Removed unless if they want too

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Of course. A dedicated chip has a lot more room for power instead of an integrated chip together with the CPU.

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What I'm saying is. Intel should show up in the dedicated graphics market. They have the money to do so.

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I'm not sure if it's worth investing from a business standpoint. But it would sure as hell be nice for us.

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Because company wants 💰

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:26 PM

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The entertainment industry is huge and with hype around AI/machine learning there's lots to gain for many markets including the gaming industry.

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Right.

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Nvidia should lose their monopoly position, either AMD comes back with a vengeance or Intel joins the party or better yet, both.

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Same goes for the CPU market which AMD is luckily gaining some favors since Ryzen.

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:27 PM

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I'd take both any day

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:28 PM

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What's wrong with Nvidia.

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Nothing, Nvidia as a monopoly is wrong.

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Oof

solemn tusk Oct 25, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Yeah, competition is always a good thing. Having a dominating force in a market is a bad idea

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Nvidia's current business practices are all due to lack of competition.

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They can because they deliver the best.

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Pretty much

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AMD imo dominates the mid range market, no exceptions. Nvidia has the high end on lock down with no foreseeable future when that will change.

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Ya

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but midrange is boring.

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Of course it's a valuable market and definitely necessary but it should be used to fund progress.

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which doesn't seem like the case now, unless there's a very hard limit of what's physically possible at he moment.

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Money is what's limiting

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They both could make some really good tech but they know people will always need bugmdget friendly stuff

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And AMD is taking advantage of that

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:33 PM

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ASML is doing cool stuff atm where they make circuits work with just light.

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I don't know the fine details, but there are technologies in the works which allow us to jump many times over in terms of performance.

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:55 PM

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i mean.. minimum 1080p 144hz should be mainstream by now. I know my 1440p is more enthusiast but to require a 1080Ti to get 144fps in BF1 seems a bit extreme.

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I dont like that a 1060 is considered "mid range"

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or is it? it's bare bones bottom barrel to me, 60fps low for BFV is like "low budget"

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:55 PM

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A 1060 fits mid range 1080 60+ is standard still for some reason

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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I've never had a gpu go out of date so quickly as my 970

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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that';s because you went to 1440p

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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back in the day buying the 970 "mid range" card meant you could play on high settings, not ultra but high

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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1080p runs along just fine at 1080p

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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144fps?

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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144hz should be standard rn

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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should

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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should be able to do 100+ on high

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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@unborn epoch are the fans loud or is it coil whine?

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:57 PM

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fans are loud

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it has coilwhine but not too bad

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i've never been a fan of watercooling because i haven't heard a high quality pump yet

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:57 PM

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i mean i forked $550 for a 2070 EVGA XC which is a small factory OC and it does BF1 ultra 1440p 99fps avg, 61 on the low 1%

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:57 PM

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i like fans more than watercooling

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i like the sound of fans whirring

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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this doesnt seem logical to me, the tech should be here to play 1440p ultra on a $500 card at 144fps

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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i personally dont want to eff with watercooling

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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^

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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watercooling still needs fans

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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yea no thanks 😄

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more.. if anything

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some of those radiators have 6 fans

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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i feel like im going to kill something with my dumbness

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if i use watercooling

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Water-cooling is nice for aesthetics, that's why I use it

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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water cooling is for people who can afford to lose their entire rig

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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too much to worry about just to get it functional, let alone the gains imo are not worth the hassle/stress/risk

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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watercooling has huge benifits

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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@rose eagle Not necessarily

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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actually.. Noctua 15H beats a ton of water cooling setups

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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watercooling is able to directly remove heat from the components and let it dissipate in the heatsink far away from the hardware

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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you have to get not only a water cooling system but a good one to beat the noctua

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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ya

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this is CPU though

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Eh noctuas ugly asf

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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AIO for cpu, and just keep gpu stock

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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but yea its mainly all about aesthetics

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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ugly?

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you mean the colorscheme?

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Yeah

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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they have chromax full black fans now

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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i hate the browns

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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i just dont trust myself with watercooling

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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fan needs to come right off

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/wXUTz5K.jpg

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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id rather play safe

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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@unborn epoch looks like upgrading fans then lol

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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last i checked the noctua black fans were expensive as fuck

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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check that devil

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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even more expensive than noctua in general

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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Yeah I saw it looks nice, huge as cooler

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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where's your motherboard?!?!?!

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😄

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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in the near future noctua is even going to release black painted heatsinks

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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at least when i looked thats when they were announced

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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my 212 evo only has 1 fan

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thats a fkin beast

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM

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lol, who needs to worry about cable management when you cover absolutely everything

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM

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and yes, my cpu cooler is pretty much 85% the size of my motherboard

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM

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noctua 15h is bigger than my 212.. it wont fit in 011 Dynamic

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM

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it's silly ;p

glossy cove Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM

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Having baby puke colored fans on your PC is a status symbol!

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM

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neither the 212 evo or noctua fit in a lian li 011

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/Q8KOPaf.png i still rock old colored noctua fans

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM

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is that a h500 case?

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:01 PM

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it is indeed a status symbol

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nah h200i

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its mitx

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:02 PM

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ah damn

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:02 PM

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mah case arrives tomorrow but no gpu til Saturday

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psu

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:02 PM

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psu?

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:02 PM

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didn't you already have the 2070

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oh psu

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:02 PM

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lol we pay attention

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cant get anything pass us

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💪🏼

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:02 PM

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wesmart

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:02 PM

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❤

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dont let my wife see she'll get jealous if anyone knows anything about anything related to me besides her

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:03 PM

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lel

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:04 PM

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at this point i wonder who you spend more time with lol

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:04 PM

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clearly discord

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8-5 and after 10pm? no contest lol

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:05 PM

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Discord is your reality now

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:05 PM

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i mean.. the sad fact is we are only with our families like 6-10

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she crashes right about 10 but i have to stay up, i cant go to bed that early

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:05 PM

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yea as of right now i hardly see my girl

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:05 PM

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Same

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feelsmeowman

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:06 PM

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i need someone to log into a BF server exact same map and follow around and run fraps FPS test

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:06 PM

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and even when she is home shes going to school to be a nurse, so its study when she is home

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:06 PM

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so we get an apples for apples comparison

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Cheapest space heater on the market is the i9-9900k

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:06 PM

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tbh i havent' been in a relationship for over 2 years

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:06 PM

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lawl

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:06 PM

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whats everyones opinion on this pc: https://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/hp-omen-x-900-gaming-desktop-pc-412003--1#tab=vao

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:06 PM

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i'm ok with it, need to focus on me anyway

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:07 PM

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my opinion is i dont fuck with pre built

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Der8auer bagged on intel lately

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:07 PM

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2.6k for 7th gen i7 and a 1070?!

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:07 PM

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@prime jasper i have that dilemma with LED lightbulbs... save elec but that heat you gain during winter has to count for something 😄

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:07 PM

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way too expensive, the case looks cool i guess. Or at least unique

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:07 PM

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fuuuuck that

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:08 PM

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swap out all LED in winter for incandescent!

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:08 PM

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i was thinking of buying the case from my friend who had one, that then decided to build his own

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it would be pretty cool to use

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in my own build

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:09 PM

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the case is interesting, but i would hate the space it uses

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:09 PM

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mm

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ill try experimenting

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see where it could fit

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:09 PM

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you are getting the whole thing?

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pre built?

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:09 PM

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nah

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:09 PM

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i want to put an arduino in my case and connect ledstrips and matrix displays to it

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and let it do funky stuff

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:10 PM

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its a waste

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:10 PM

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you are just getting the case?

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:10 PM

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from a friend ye

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:10 PM

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ah, i mean, sure i might try it just to see

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:10 PM

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mainly because it looks cool

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:10 PM

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i have the space for it, but idk

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would be cool to have something so different

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:11 PM

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yeah

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because i could build something better for 1000$ cheaper

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waste of money

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:11 PM

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you could use that $1000 to go for a premium case, water cooling, lightning effects etc

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but it'll be your baby, your project

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it's not something you plop together in a week

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:12 PM

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yeah

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:12 PM

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lighting*

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:12 PM

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ill have a think

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:12 PM

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lightning is dangerous

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:12 PM

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my front room built in drawer pc is my baby

prime jasper Oct 25, 2018, 6:12 PM

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never know what i might want

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:12 PM

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i keep lightning in a bottle for special occasions

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:14 PM

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lightning in a butthole

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 6:14 PM

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disgusted, but interested

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 6:15 PM

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just shove a lightning rod in there and go to mid west for tornado season

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 6:16 PM

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tornado hunting, i like it

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 7:22 PM

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can we call this cornhole twister

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:12 PM

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never, always

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sir, no one has one sorry

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it can has usb 3.1 is only diff

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next

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😄

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ermagerd built in wifi WTF lol

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yeh man 390 is uncharted lol

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https://www.asus.com/MICROSITE/Intel-Coffee-Lake-Best-Z370-Motherboards/US/compare/index.aspx

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lols

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https://www.asus.com/MICROSITE/Intel-Coffee-Lake-Best-Z370-Motherboards/US/

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those 7 questions are really the key diffs

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sli support, wifi, water cooling, usb

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lighting

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if no to all, basic is fine

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:21 PM

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mobo is like 2200 Knäckebröds

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:22 PM

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or say fk u Asus and get the ASRock Z370 Extreme4

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how much is that one?

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i fkin love my ASRock Z77 Extreme4 for my ancient 3770k

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:23 PM

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ive only bought asus and msi boards

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err and gigabyte

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:23 PM

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peasants

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:23 PM

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only boards ive had problems with is msi, but i seem to be minority

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:23 PM

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when it comes to GPU its EVGA or Asus for me

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all boards have some lemons

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:23 PM

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gpus evga or msi for me

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(even though every evga gpu i have had has had coil whine while nothing else has)

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:24 PM

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make sure you see how many m.2 drive bays

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wave of the future 😄

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2 would be sweet ass candy

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:24 PM

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m.2 overrated for 99% of consumers imo

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:24 PM

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no fkin drives, aesthetics!!!!!!!

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and they're down to $150 for a 970 evo

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500gb

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so fkin cheap

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:25 PM

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yea and you can get sata 500gb for 80 bucks

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and for consumers, you wont even be able to tell the differnce

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:25 PM

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sure, double

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but it takes no cables!!

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😄

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this was before i got my new case comin tho with rear mountable

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ive never been able to rear mount anything

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:25 PM

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im about performance, and i would get sata over m.2 any day for the price difference

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:25 PM

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they only take it right in the bolted on holes

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:26 PM

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i got a budget and even if i hit the lottery it would be hard for me to justify m.2 over sata

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:27 PM

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oh cmon

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if you got 1.6Billion from that recent lotto

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that would be one fkin tricked to shit PC for life lol

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i mean.. $5000 would basically buy you the most you'd ever need in a PC ever

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:28 PM

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im not about spending 2x more for 10% perf increase

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:28 PM

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its your PC!

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and you have 1.6 bil?

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:28 PM

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it doesnt make sense to me

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:28 PM

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if anything i wouldnt even upgrade my house lol

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but id drop 5 grand on my PC 😄

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keep same cars

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fk it, the 1.6 bil would just sit working for me

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i mean fk man you'd earn more than 5k/mo off interest lol

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cant take it with you

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:29 PM

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idk, im sure i would spend more than i would expect, but still, it doesnt add up to much

lament thistle Oct 25, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Lol

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:30 PM

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yea theres some bad ones

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:30 PM

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at work, cant read

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(even though i spend 30% of my time on discord anyways)

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:31 PM

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i got 21 days of vaca to try to smash in before end of year

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this is difficult lol

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:32 PM

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1 week on 1 week off

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:32 PM

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BF V woo woo!

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haha im mainly just scheduling a ton of 4 day weekends

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entire weeks off is harsh, got too much work

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yea the m.2 for OS + programs for my development sounds awesome like you're doing and then an 860 for games

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an engine can only load stuff so fast, i have never benchmarked BFV loading

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or 1 rather, we know SSD >> 7200 for load times

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but not sure if m.2 would be diminished returns

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:37 PM

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thatd be a beast gaming/streaming pc

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:37 PM

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m2 doesn't require cables POGGERS

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:37 PM

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NZXT arent exactly known for their airflow are they

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?

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:37 PM

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not optimal, no

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:37 PM

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that specific cpu cooler is good though

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probably not the best, but i havent heard complaints about it

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beating similar corsair rads?

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:38 PM

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9900k is beefy as hell

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you doing other things than gaming?

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isn't 9900k overkill?

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it's your money of course

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but if you are serious about streaming get a 2nd pc

languid acorn Oct 25, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Overkill is better than underkill

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 9:40 PM

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mmmm

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:40 PM

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if you aren't, use gpu

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i could be wrong though, 8c with HT is insane amounts of cores

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if you can separate it properly it might work fine

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i haven't experimented with streaming too much

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all i know is that my 7700k doesn't like it, i notice clear delay in things when gaming. But the 7700k is ancient and a baby compared to that 9900k

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:41 PM

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true, if streaming is priority a dedicated build is ideal, if you need/want 1 build and want the best, theres the 9900k

winged tapir Oct 25, 2018, 9:42 PM

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well if you want to stream CPU eating games I guess a single PC setup is not the way to go

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:42 PM

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(i dont stream so idk the budget for a dedicated streaming machine)

winged tapir Oct 25, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Single PC streaming is not possible with AAA games if you want CPU encoding

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or not decent results

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:43 PM

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some games will work fine, but in shooters you will notice a delay

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:43 PM

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ryzen 2700x does fine, 9900x is good

winged tapir Oct 25, 2018, 9:43 PM

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I have an I7 7700 and I cant stream Games with CPU encoding with 1080p/60fps which is my way to stream

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:43 PM

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remember, 9900k has double amount of cores/threads

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so it's hard to compare the two

winged tapir Oct 25, 2018, 9:43 PM

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Well never tested it

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:43 PM

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yea 7700<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<9900k

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at least for streaming

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:44 PM

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this doesn't mean that windows does it all right by default

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hence me saying, if you can force certain processes to certain cores it might work

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you definitely don't want encoding and game running on the same core

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im not watching 30 minutes of footage

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all I can say; FPS doesn't mean shit.

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:45 PM

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solder is good, but theres better

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:45 PM

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however I know GN covers stuff thoroughly

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 9:45 PM

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yea i watched that one

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you can get better performance, but for most its not worth it, and really only an option for people that are obsessive with their cpu performance

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but the new stim or whatever its called is definitely better than the previous method (forget what thats called entirely)

winged tapir Oct 25, 2018, 9:52 PM

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if you want to go for normal streaming with good settings I guess i9-9900k can be really enough

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but for Dual things I would say AMD is the way you should go

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if you are planning on getting DUAL Streaming system then Intel ❤

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I stream with NVEC (GPU encoding) with very decent results

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plus my games are running smooth most of the time

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CPU i7-7700 and GPU is GTX 1070

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📎 xwo6ilo.png

strong breach Oct 25, 2018, 9:54 PM

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7k bitrate

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GWseremePeepoF

winged tapir Oct 25, 2018, 9:54 PM

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i can't stream games like BF 1 with CPU encoding

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@strong breach yep

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60

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I can demonstrate the power

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Dont have anything to do

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@strong breach BF3?

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:56 PM

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tbh, your stream will look shit anyway because i ebvlieve only partners get decent reencoding

winged tapir Oct 25, 2018, 9:57 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/rephii here ya go

Twitch

Rephii - Twitch

Ups I did it again

▶ Play video

unborn epoch Oct 25, 2018, 9:57 PM

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also why 1080p? just stream 720p

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like any normal streamer

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are you partnered?

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nice transition on that stream

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teach me your ways

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at 720p you can get better imagequality with same framerate

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stream looks good though

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yours?

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link me it, im watching rephii atm

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oh right

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Snutten drops fps (not frames)

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just noticeable fps

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aight ill check it out

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framerate drops seem to be gone

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but do you actually play at 60fps?

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alright

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i gotta try streaming again sometime

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ya i'll set it up tomorrow

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you look like a mix between f0rest and friberg

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you

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😄

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haha good stuff

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it's definitely watchable

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im getting ea premiere and buying the game during the first month of release somewhere

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november 9 here i come

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lul get cucked

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@winged tapir your stream seemed nice the way you had the transitions going

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teach me your ways

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is it just a video you are playing

winged tapir Oct 25, 2018, 10:30 PM

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made it with After Effects

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 10:33 PM

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my benchmarks are on par with other 1440p BF1 tests with 2070

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which kinda makes me super sad, i really want to upgrade my 3770k 😄

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 10:35 PM

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wait panda, just wait

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 10:35 PM

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grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 10:35 PM

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you dont neeeeed it

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 10:35 PM

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my rig will just depreciate!

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 10:35 PM

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you waaaant it

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 10:35 PM

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the only thing holding me back is i know both amd and intel cpu's next year will most likely be new boards, possibly even ram?

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 10:36 PM

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amd is supporting the am4 platform till 2020

rose eagle Oct 25, 2018, 10:36 PM

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i dont see how the new amd cpu's will destroy a 9700k tho

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o well.. nothing amd has up is worth grabbing i dont think

storm osprey Oct 25, 2018, 10:36 PM

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thats one of their selling points, they plan on supporting shit unlike intel, they drop support basically for every new cpu