yea i would pay like $350 for a 1070Ti or $400 for 1080 but thats about my limit i think
#technology
rose eagle
BF:V didnt do so hot on 1440p 970gtx
40-70 i think
im not really expecting drivers or huge perf gains on release
rose eagle
i only get 80-100fps on low in BF1 so 40-70 sounds about right i guess for V
though it would be nice if they stop making it prettier and instead more performant 😄
quit making me upgrade my hardware!!!!!
storm osprey
well it was beta, im expecting it to be better/get better after launch
rose eagle
~10% maybe
BF1 beta to release was about that anyway
def nothing like OMG yay my 970gtx is perfectly playable 😄
more.. ok yay my card i own performs a tad better but definitely will not influence any purchasing decisions
the only thing we can't quite get a feel for is 20xx perf
bleak yoke
Hey guys is 12gb of ddr4 2400 good enough for ram?
storm osprey
8gb is minimum
rose eagle
what cpu?
rose eagle
ive seen people that wouldnt go less than 16 for Frostbite engine, it eats ram
i mean 12 makes little sense anyway for slots and pairing
you got 2 2s and want to get 2 4s?
bleak yoke
@rose eagle I have the i5 7600k
rose eagle
ah that doesnt require 300 series mobo?
bleak yoke
@storm osprey Well the recommeneded is 12
rose eagle
recommended is poo
storm osprey
unless you get BOS or other problems i think youll be fine
bleak yoke
I have rn 3 4's
rose eagle
i mean the price diff is so small theres no reason not to get 16 to be safe
rose eagle
if you're buying ram today id future proof it, 12 will be low within 2 yrs
sour ivy
yo what ever happened to that one guy
bleak yoke
@storm osprey Friend gave me 4gb today
sour ivy
pht something
storm osprey
i wouldnt mix ram
bleak yoke
Originally I bought 8gb
rose eagle
oof...
bleak yoke
why
storm osprey
everytime someone does that, they have problems
rose eagle
yea it should all be paired exact
storm osprey
just not how ram works
it MIGHT work for you
i would try it
but i havent heard of anyone not having problems mixing ram
rose eagle
might even be failing to run dual chan if it's all fubar
bleak yoke
@storm osprey I have had no problems with playing games for the past month and the ram is the same speed same everything except one is vengence other is ballistix
rose eagle
which would be epic fail
storm osprey
i doubt timings are the same
bleak yoke
k well maybe that
storm osprey
if you dont have problems though i wouldnt be bothered
bleak yoke
but thats going down to the bare minimum
storm osprey
i just wouldnt recommend it if you could help it
bleak yoke
Yeah exactly I dont have problems
@storm osprey What problems would occur any way>
?
rose eagle
you got CPU-Z downloaded?
storm osprey
games/pc crashing
rose eagle
you can see if your memory is running Dual channel
rose eagle
prob fine then
bleak yoke
@rose eagle check this
ram
I obviously wouldnt purposely change ram like that but in this case my friend gave me some for free so I said why not
@rose eagle
bleak yoke
@rose eagle is everything good tho?
rose eagle
long as it's dual chan and running rated speeds
bleak yoke
does everything look normal
rose eagle
and system is stable
bleak yoke
yes sir
storm osprey
yea if games ever crash or system crashes remove the new stick and see if that fixes it
bleak yoke
yeah sure thanks for the tips @storm osprey
rose eagle
gotta have even pairs
bleak yoke
@rose eagle No I just installed the third stick today
bleak yoke
yeah
it is
Because I think my primary ram is the dual channel
and my secondary ram slot is single so its ok
rose eagle
it stinks but.. eh
like anyone who knows anything will frown at this but theres nothing to say .. lol
bleak yoke
Ok then
rose eagle
the 2 matching are in same colored slots right?
storm osprey
its just not recommended, i think anyone knowing you got it for free would say to just try it
rose eagle
not next to eachother
bleak yoke
alright thanks for the tips
rose eagle
i guess that could be mobo dependent
storm osprey
at worst you do get problems and you just pop it out and its fine
bleak yoke
yeah
rose eagle
but yea 8 is def low
storm osprey
for certain games
rose eagle
we're in BF tech chan so ;P
storm osprey
most 8 is fine and you will only lose a few fps at worst
rose eagle
i answer accordingly
storm osprey
yea, im just clarifying
rose eagle
i got 9gb in use just sitting in windows man
storm osprey
i got w10 at work, i have acad, spotify, worksheets, discord, pdf viewer, and some other random ones open
and im using 5
quaint topaz
Stock clock speed
rose eagle
push er til it gets to 1.2v and 80c!
storm osprey
i mean, i still wouldnt be worried
quaint topaz
watch me fry my cpu 101 
rose eagle
i almost did
my cpu fan died
happened to just be testing for temps to push my cpu further and noticed 100c under load
thought it was supposed to shut itself off but it sure did not
quaint topaz
i almost did with my 6600K. PC wouldn't post. it recovered somehow though
rose eagle
a small attack should be ok..
but sustained 100c no bueno lol
i have no clue how long it was dead
quaint topaz
I'm loving these frames though
rose eagle
but it's running 3.5 @ 4.3 now that i stuck a 212 EVO on it so couldnt have done too much harm 😄
you get a gpu upgrade?
quaint topaz
yea everything but GPU is the same
rose eagle
wasnt sure what cpu you had
quaint topaz
6600K
rose eagle
what frames were you getting before?
quaint topaz
around 80-90 (not including all the dips and stuttering)
rose eagle
thats weird
something dying on you?
im sure you discussed it in great length already
6600k is 4 core, shoulda been fine
storm osprey
i mean, 6600k was 4 core right? to 8c16t?
rose eagle
yea but that shouldnt give 20% boost
i guess at 1080p it might be
i keep forgetting CPU perf at 1080p is bigger
storm osprey
and hes using 1070, so cpu is a bigger factor
rose eagle
im using a 3770k and 970 and sometimes get some stutters
quaint topaz
My 6600K performed very poorly. While in other games I had decent frames, BF1 seems to be hit. Doesn't do well with core i5 processors.
rose eagle
only in Frostbite engine tho ;P
lol Frostbite just rapes PCs
uses everything you can throw at it
the threads arent so much the diff as cores?
8600k vs 8700k for BF1/V
storm osprey
threads are like quarter cores
rose eagle
i bet the 6600k performs around the same as my 3770k
4c8t vs 6600k 4c4t
what would cause stuttering though just upgrading a 6600k to an 8700k?
not understanding that unless something was failing
storm osprey
theres more than core count/threads and clock speed
if that was the case amd FX cpus would be great
rose eagle
yea this is super confusing
since all cpu usage is the same
8600K is beastmode i5 for gaming and zero streaming etc
storm osprey
i5 has always been the sweet spot for gaming
rose eagle
eh, for some reason i chucked my i5 from around 2010
and got an i7 in 2012
i never stream so not sure why
rose eagle
yea im pretty sure i had the 4 core 750
i bet i was just being OCD
and had disposable income before i had a kid
storm osprey
haha yea
in a month or so i went from an amd 6300, to an i3, to i5, then i7
thankfully the place i bought from is super cool with returns xD
rose eagle
how can i create a nice spike graph to see what im dealing with? id like to record something before and after getting a 1080 while on my 3770k
see if i get dips still before/after
nm looks like afterburner would be sufficient to grab a screenshot of
this is what i get now on BF1 low settings 1440p in a random map
so i cant imagine a 1080 not being sufficient in V
with this cpu
storm osprey
i wouldnt know
rose eagle
i guess the game feels 100% fine as long as it never dips below 60
storm osprey
you got gsync right?
vapid pebble
I found BF1 to be a little rough on my i5 7600k. Dipped quite a bit framerate wise. I switched to an i7 7700k and it helped alot with minimum frames and just felt smoother in general. Some other games were pretty huge performance differences between the 2.
steep gust
Average fps might not be all that better
But minimum will be much higher on a newer CPU
rose eagle
ill happily record my FPS once V releases to show everyone 😉
i wont be upgrading my 3770k any time before
quaint topaz
managed to hit 5GHz
1.32v
big oof.
didn't get a stable OC with anything lower but will try again
quaint topaz
playing BF1
quaint topaz
yes
quaint topaz
was playing with these as well
strong breach
Just go 112% power
quaint topaz
oh reee i reset the settings and forgot to dial this
atomic atlas
strong breach
Australia is like the furthest you can go from finland
strong breach
Uhh i dunno
atomic atlas
tbh
that someone with 350ping got 4 kills and yet the team couldnt kill an injured hahhhaah
strong breach
Does it make it better that i just came out of local student party and wasnt uhh in that good of a condition
It was like 3am for my time
Kappa
quaint topaz
will be a nightmare in BFV though
strong breach
That’s no fair
Btw @quaint topaz which graphics settings were you on
Ultra / low / tryhard settings Kappa
atomic atlas
omega
quaint topaz
ultra
strong breach
use tryhard settings
heck
aka all low mesh quality ultra and then anti aliasing is optional use it not
@quaint topaz
how much you get then
quaint topaz
ill try
atomic atlas
strong breach
heck
test a server that is full
fps drops when you all more people
👀
Also @atomic atlas https://i.imgur.com/xo6LGiK.png
atomic atlas
is that your battlefield stats?
strong breach
strong breach
never played hardline
quaint topaz
hardline best battlefield
strong breach
only the beta
strong breach
quaint topaz
gpu not overclocked
the game only has a maximum of 200frames not sure how to go beyond that limiter
strong breach
quaint topaz
I'm very happy with this investment
worth
gonna try to lower that voltage down. These thermals are SHOOO
quaint topaz
Only need 12
atomic atlas
Yuck
strong breach
human can't see more than 24.76fps anyways
strong breach
🤔
atomic atlas
Same with 4K, yet they are making 6k
rose eagle
did i miss a chance to shit on people claiming CPU is a bottleneck?!
24.76 lol
how much FPS can you FEEL? 😃
i can feel.... 98.24fps
i wish i could shove an 8600k in my 970 setup
im almost certain not enough will change to warrant $800 in upgrades 😄
rose eagle
@quaint topaz thats pretty hot, you got a custom cooler on that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EmpnEIG8gY i dont trust this one single ounce for 1080Ti with 2600k/3770k/8600k/8700k comparison
rose eagle
Coffee Lake-S isnt really anything to care about i assume
imo there hasnt been much in the processer development side since 2010
i guess a silver lining is that updating to the latest cpu will be good for 8 years while GPUs are the things getting upgraded every 2-3 yrs
fiery oracle
Strictly from a gming sense is the $80 difference in price worth getting an i78700k vs Ryzen 7 2700x?
I just sw the battlefield 1 benchmarks somewhere and with a 1080ti both are neck and neck
rose eagle
@fiery oracle for gaming only, zero streaming?
fiery oracle
Yea. All i do with the computer is game nyway
Occasionally edit videos on my gopro but i use their software for that nothing fancy
rose eagle
I'd consider an 8600K
if you're wavering to get a Ryzen 7 2700x I think it has superior tasking for encoding/streaming over 8600K but inferior gaming perf
The 8600K is the first acceptable gaming CPU imo
i5
stock on 8600/8700k seems to be drying up and prices went up
fiery oracle
Ill look at it. Im selling my i5-6500 rig right now
fiery oracle
gotcha
fiery oracle
1440p
rose eagle
surprised the 6500 is causing you any issues
even more so..
it was $230 in June =/ 8600k
sour ivy
Wait you're surprised a 6500 cant play 1440?
storm osprey
cpu dependency decreases with higher resolution/better gpus
rose eagle
yea i will debate 1440p gaming tooth and nail that hardly anything has changed in almost 8 years 😉
cpu wise
6500, 7600k, meh
i fear people who are looking to upgrade CPU have an underlying problem with their rig and then post WOW MUCH IMPROVE! once they get a whole new setup working
like this guy "Well I've just changed out a 3570k @ 4.2 to a 3770k and it's a massive improvement."
@fiery oracle im normally not an AMD fan but given my experience with my 3770k right now i cant recommend a CPU that costs more than any others out today (latest gen) for 1440p gaming
so sick of useless tests jesus this one is 720p Ryzen 2600 vs 8700k vs 1080p
storm osprey
i mean, i guess it would show the biggest difference between the 2
but i agree, its not relevant
rose eagle
showing off the strengths is obviously someone's job
but how about real world new age 1440p perf tests
i know like 80% prob plays 1080p
im not sure how serious to take Steam display resolution results
like 4% on 1440p seems insanely low
14% on a 1060, followed by 1050 Ti, 1050, 960, 1070, 750 Ti... since no battlefield games are on there id love to see a similar polling
storm osprey
steam polls are our best bet at accurate numbers
and nothing really seems off to me
62% for 1080p
i would think there would be more imo, but really, there are a lot of poor countries out there/people people that cant afford a new monitor
rose eagle
yea i mean 2nd highest is the laptop res
part of me thinks i should have stayed at 1080p for 144hz gaming but that ship sailed 😄
1080p + FSAA vs 1440p noAA perf is probably close enough
i prob wont beat on anyone that owns a Ryzen 5 2600 anymore for 1440p gaming
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_2700X/images/perfrel_2560_1440.png this is probably quite accurate
storm osprey
i dont like how AA smooths things out, yes it gets rid of jaggies, but doesnt make it as defined
thats why i went 1440p
rose eagle
yea same, i hate AA
and pushing 4k is still the dumbest idea ever even with 2080 Ti
who the hell wants to maintain 60fps only
when I'm 50 they might have mainstream 4k gaming 😄
which is only 13 years away..
hushed geyser
anybody knows if the PUCK does hold on the define R6 front?
its aluminum i guess
normal magnet doesnt seem to hold on the front
😦
storm osprey
to my knowledge the front is plastic, faux brushed metal
if its the same as the define C (which i have)
hushed geyser
plasticcc=?
storm osprey
i dont get it
storm osprey
its plastic, made to look like brushed metal, hence faux
hushed geyser
storm osprey
maybe they changed it, but im almost certain my define c came with plastic front, made to look like brushed aluminum
hushed geyser
they changed it probably
storm osprey
so you have it?
yea they are calling that it is aluminum on the r6, and it looks different compared to older cases
which they dont say is aluminum
left yarrow
in BF1, ever since i did perfoverlay.drawfps 1, i cannot turn it off. perfoverlay.drawfps 0, it always results in "Win32 result: false". i tried repairing the game, but it didnt work, and a user.cfg file in the game directory with perfoverlay.drawfps 0 didnt work either.... any ideas?
wet notch
did you try entering it in the game instead of in a config?
i mean by using the console
quaint topaz
@hushed geyser puck sticks to anything magnetic. Try a fridge magnet lmao
storm osprey
aluminum isnt magnetic though, right?
left yarrow
@wet notch yes i put it in the console and it still didnt work.
putting in perfoverlay.drawfps 0 into the console results in Win32 result: false
storm osprey
how do you "quote" like that devid?
left yarrow
the small symbol where the tilde key is above the tab key
you can use two as well i think
yes you can
strong breach
it's for single line and multiline code 👀
strong breach
here's a small clip from our server config
commands:
overrides:
- {plugin.name: 'utilities', out: {level: 10}}
- {name: 'join', out: {level: 101}}
prefix: '!'
@left yarrow you could try putting it in the properties for BF1 in origin
"Go to origin
Right Click on Battlefield 1 and choose "Game Properties"
Click on "Advanced Launch Options"
left yarrow
ill try that
wet notch
i think you should have commandline options there and can type -PerfOverlay.DrawFps 1 or 0
left yarrow
doubt it'd work though since even the user.cfg config file method didnt work
left yarrow
nope @wet notch. fps counter is still there
wet notch
are you sure its battlefield causing it?
storm osprey
doesnt happen for other origin games?
left yarrow
ugh... if im going to have to reinstall my game im going to screech
i wouldnt know really. BF4 doesnt want to recognize my mouse and keyboard and i dont have BF3 installed.
storm osprey
why did you go this route instead of turning on fps counter through origin?
left yarrow
because the Origin Overlay was screwing with my game for some reason, i cant remember why or what was going on, but it was really annoying so i turned it off
storm osprey
you checked to make sure it is off right?
storm osprey
what you mean its fine? its gone now?
left yarrow
nah, im just saying ill leave it for now and do it another time
keen forge
Test
storm osprey
muhaha
keen forge
I cannot achieve it
storm osprey
third times the charm
keen forge
Yeah it was... subtle
rotund herald
Doubt that the fps counter comes from BF
prime jasper
anyone knows why i keep getting these when i download DLC's?
it only happens for BF4
rose eagle
try disabling your anti-virus for an hour?
or try a host of stuff in this thread https://answers.ea.com/t5/Origin-Client-Web-Technical/error-code-327683-0/td-p/3345907
prime jasper
"directx function "DX11 Renderer::tryMap" failed with DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED ("The video card has been physically removed from the system, or a driver upgrade for the video card has occurred. ")."This error is usually caused by the graphics driver crashing; try installing the latest drivers. Also, make sure you have a supported graphics card with at least 2GB."
Just got this
Running a Vega 56
Any help
storm osprey
did you update drivers?
prime jasper
Just doing that now and about to test again
Game was also running like shit too
At about 40-50fps when I should be at 100+
cinder marlin
anyone else having trouble getting into a game?
starts loading then just reverts back to server browser
quickmatch worked
prime jasper
Ibstlled new dtivers, fine so far but the game is still running like dogshit
My 390x got 90fps so why the fuck am I stuck at 60 and dropping to 50
Or lower
Wtf
storm osprey
theres so many reasons, it would take a while to troubleshoot
same settings?
correct driver?
right pcie slot?
enough power?
is something else failing?
prime jasper
Settings yes
Driver yes
Pcie yes
Power should be fine
Doubt something else is failing as other games are fine
I was playing ironsight yesterday fine
storm osprey
thermals?
prime jasper
Just checking those now
Thermals fine at 55 degrees
Smh I thought it was fine then as I had 108 fps but I turned around to face the flags and it drops to 50 -_-
Ok just had another crash
This fucking game
so the shit performance is probably related to these crashes
or something
prime jasper
yeah
its fine with everything else
i have no idea whats going on here
it seemed to be a common issue a while ago but it hasnt been reported in a while so idk how to fix it
prime jasper
ok it seems to be struggling with the witcher 3 which it wasnt before
ironsight and warframe are fine
im so confused
prime jasper
honestly i reckon this is some next level cpu bottleneck
making a cpu upgrade is far too expensive for metho
lofty light
Perhaps try that driver remover thingy? Wipe all traces off the system and reinstall?
prime jasper
@steep gust 4670k
prime jasper
i knew it was going to hold me back a bit
but it used to be alright
i wasnt expecting 40-50fps
prime jasper
oof
dont have the money to upgrade my cpu
because id have to upgrade my motherboard and ram too
stoic wagon
sa ,
prime jasper
itd cost like £500
steep gust
Buy a 4690k then
rose eagle
4c is plenty!
For 1440p
I wish someone would prove me wrong I'd love to upgrade my 3770K for the hell of it lol
steep gust
4c 4t and 4c 8t is entirely different
prime jasper
@rose eagle not doing 1440 tho, im on a 1080 144
also a 4690k wouldnt really do anything BP
rose eagle
Need a much better CPU to drive 1080 for sure
rose eagle
What chipset mobo?
prime jasper
1150
prime jasper
oof yeah i looked
a 4790k is as much as a newer gen one
wtf is this
i mean i might as well get a ryzen 5 at this price
and do a full upgrade
dont have this sort of cash
prime jasper
its worse over here in the uk
£300
and theres fuck all on ebay
i dont have this sort of cash for an upgrade
i was thinking it was gonna be about 100-150 coz its so old
rose eagle
Yea my 2012 i7 is hanging in there
I guess just due to being 8t
Sucks to upgrade just for battlefield lol
I've resorted to Facebook market place to generate money to get a 1080
prime jasper
not just bf tho is it, the witcher 3 also and the new assassins creed games
if games are starting to rely this heavily on the cpu im fucked
rose eagle
Yeah it'll only get worse
prime jasper
😦
i could probably scrap together about 200 but thats still not enough to buy a years old cpu
like jesus
rose eagle
I mean now that i5 8600k is 6c that helps but still only 6t?
Not much has changed in CPU world in 6 years imo
prime jasper
its coz these devs cant optimize shit then lmao
rose eagle
Threads finally being utilized
prime jasper
8600k isnt even a bad price but id have to upgrade my mobo and ram too which adds an extra 200 quid
rose eagle
Takes a lot more effort to utilize threading
Yea I'm in same boat but I don't think I need to upgrade
I7 3770k from 2011 4c8t
prime jasper
theres a few for £200 on those pickup types of sites
all too far from me though :/
cex has good prices but its not in any of em
rose eagle
facebook marketplace exist over there?
steep gust
@prime jasper Its normal for older CPUs to cost more NEW
Since there isn't any stock
My 8600k is pretty nice
The 7700k cost more than an 8700k sometimes yet it has literally no advantage
prime jasper
Yeah the prices for the 8600 aren't bad
But I'd have to upgrade my mobo and ram
@steep gust
steep gust
$150 for 16GB of DDR4
$140-160 or so for a Z370 motherboard
prime jasper
maybe if i can find a second hand ryzen + mobo deal
prime raptor
look into getting a prebuilt with a good cpu+shitty gpu
then upgrade the gpu at a later date
fiery oracle
Ryzens hard to beat. Saw a 2700x go forr like $280 last week
rose eagle
lowest this has ever been? still seems super high, why is it any better than a $400 version on sale
2070 will be $500 so that seems pointless to spend $500 on a 1080, though the 1080 has more CUDA cores
2070 might not even outperform it
forest token
can't connect to any bf1 servers, force update and restarting origin didn't work
was fine as of 10 minutes ago
and now it won't work 
doing a repair worked, or it fixed itself
strange quiver
why is the bf server browser always broken?
wet notch
it is?
fresh ingot
Any1 played the beta on a "lower spec" PC and knows how it runs?
Currently playing at a i7 875k, Nvidia GTX 460 with 8 GB of ram. (Windows 7 64 bit)
Wondering if i can run it smoothly
760*
steep gust
8600k / 8700k beats Rzyen for gaming
The 2070 will beat the 1080 because faster memory
west pivot
@fresh ingot i've played the beta with a G4560, GTX 1050 Ti with 8GB of ram smoothly 😃
rose eagle
my guess is like dog shit
you play BF1 on it?
i get like 50% less framerate in V than 1 on my 970gtx with 4gb
90 -> 60, ok so 33%
@steep gust thats my hope, 1080s will have to come down to $400 across the board to sell if 2070 beats it at $500
maybe thats why they're clearing stock everywhere, who will pay for them
rose eagle
i mean theres still good market for cheaper cards
but not if 2070 replaces 1080 and 1070Ti
nothing out there still for 1060Ti whicih is a huge market share
they're still restocking 1080s, i see lots of "arrives October xyz"
steep gust
Pascal will be made through 2019
rose eagle
will it be priced to sell in relation to RTX though?
or they think people will for some reason buy a 1080 over a 2070
steep gust
Depends on benchmarks
rose eagle
it better smoke it and bring down 1080 😄
i think i can "splurge" and come up with 400 bucks
to me thats a max price a video card should be that's mainstream
rose eagle
980ti isnt mainstream
imo
1060 is the highest purchased mainstream card
1070 is "the" card to own
and 1080 is enthusiast
rose eagle
it has the highest market share, if i could pull 100% accurate data to show i would but im sure it will show true
1070/80 is more split
id call 144hz 1440p enthusiast
should be standard but these crazy people play 1080p and only want 60fps these days still
steep gust
Someone got super pissed at me when I said anything below 100fps isn't acceptable for me
60fps isn't acceptable unless its 4k
rose eagle
thats something you can only realize by owning a 144hz monitor and achieving 100+ fps
i have a 1440p gsync Dell and it is very clear when my fps drops below 60
it's unplayable now
BF:V on my 970 was abysmal
BF1 runs 90-100fps on low and feels good so id call 100 a sweet spot
i wont be playing V on it, it's not even worth it
steep gust
well 144hz master race
vapid pebble
I try to keep my fps over 100 at all times. Some dips here and there is fine in certain games, but for the most part. I keep it as close to 144hz as possible. Love the smoothness.
prime jasper
144 fps is so nice
just got a 144 monitor recently
although i cant play some games like bf1 coz my cpu is too weak
forest token
I have 144hz but I mainly play at 100hz because that is what my system can manage for most games (like bf1 with low settings)
radiant gate
plays bf1 on ultra at 60-70fps... Runs fo4 on ultra at 100fps... opens terraria... runs at 20fps WTF
lavish phoenix
rose eagle
is there a way to tell if a cpu has been OCd ever?
google results are failing me this morn
wet notch
couldn't you check in bios?
i mean you could check there if its CURRENTLY overclocked, but i dont know how you could possibly check if the previous owner of the cpu overlocked it on his computer,
i mean if you bought the cpu itself alone and wanna know if someone had ever overlocked it before
solid spoke
Recommended settings for a Samsung MU6300?
A lil' paranoid that my PS4 Pro isn't utilizing it's potential (despite my TV not being true HDR)
storm osprey
just look up your tv models calibration
if the image looks a little dude add saturation if thats an option
solid spoke
Should I also enable Game Mode?
And will it provide significant changes to the quality?
storm osprey
to my knowledge not all tvs do the same thing with game mode
some will reduce response rate, while others are just calibration
rose eagle
yea this is very vendor specific how to configure a TV for HDR properly and all kinds of things these days
some modes reduce input latency but cause other issues
hushed geyser
rose eagle
i hope they fix the flames shooting out with a driver or there's going to be some unhappy customers
bad time to build a pc.. cpu, gpu and ram prices blow
hushed geyser
did they blow again?
crude storm
488 usd
crude storm
double price than 2700x
somehow not that interessting
i am really interested to see what amd will pull of next year
maybe 4,8 ghz with 12/24
rose eagle
8 cores, so games dont have to code around this idea correct? only threading or not
Battlefield would take immediate advantage of it
storm osprey
in america the only thing that has bad prices is intel cpus
rose eagle
8c8t < 6c12t?
curious how i7-9700K competes vs 8700K
well, now im sad i didnt pick up a 1080Ti when they were $600 but i was dirt poor
rose eagle
oh hush being able to afford things is relative ;D
we're just as pissed
just because we're spoiled doesnt change the mentality of affordability
im having to deal with people on facebook marketplace to try and sell off crap to be able to afford a 1080
risking death for smoother framerates in BF:V
rugged summit
When i watch a movie on Netflix my Mouse starts to lag is that my gpu
rugged summit
I use chrome and got hardware acceleration off
rose eagle
i wouldnt think netflix would do that but may as well check
rugged summit
And twitch also
I looked it up my cpu looks ok in task
Motherboard:ASUS M5A99X EVO R.2 CPU:AMD FX 8350 8-CORE 4.0 GHZ GPU:EVGA GTX 980Ti 6GB SC+ /EVGA Backplate. RAM:PATRIOT 24GB Viper 3
Could it be a gpu driver mishap @rose eagle
rugged summit
And i saw some one say check your chipset for driver update
rose eagle
trying stuff is the fastest way to resolve ;D
rugged summit
What would be the best way to check my chipset drivers tho if i xan
rose eagle
i havent installed a chipset driver in like 10 years
if i reformat the only drivers to get is the mobo lan driver
prime jasper
I don't think chipset drivers are critically important unless the manufacturer is like UPDATE RIGHT NOW OR UR PC DIES
strong breach
@prime jasper 
prime jasper
💑
night talon
Has anyone else experienced kernel power 41 (63) whilst playing BF? Or any other game.
I recently bought my current build off a friend and he never had any problem with it, it’s only me and whilst playing any bf such as bf1, bf3 or bf4
Oh, and two times whilst playing bfv
steep gust
@night talon PSU is dying
or drivers not working
or power management settings are wrong
night talon
@rugged summit I’ve read that some faulty nvidia drivers were causing the sudden system reboots or the infamous BSOD, but I’ve always had the latest drivers installed and was still getting a random bsod
steep gust
Its a power issue
night talon
Also, I have installed my nvidia gforce as well
steep gust
Most likely your PSU isn't cutting it
night talon
@steep gust I’ve read that also, that it might be the PSU that is dying. The weird thing is that it only happens whilst playing any battlefield game. If I play, let’s say, sniper elite 3, I get no bsod
rugged summit
Im just getting lag when im using netflix and twitch when i gaming and not running that It fine
night talon
I’ve got an i7-4790k 16GB DDR3 and an Nvidia gtx 970 4gb ddr5 with a 700 watts PSU certified gold
rugged summit
I was thinking its the gpu drivers or flash plauer it self making my mouse lag
lofty light
Could be the PSU can't run the power draw of BF but can run it on others
night talon
I’ve also ran a stress test and haven’t got any problem whatsoever
I’ve also connected a 1500v 900w back up battery to my rig, just in case.
steep gust
any overclocks?
night talon
The thing is: it was used by an architect for almost four years without any issue
Negative, no OC
steep gust
and gold certification is not a reliably measure
night talon
I crash once in a while, like 1/3 of the time
When I got it, it was all dirty and with lint and dust inside of it.
I cleaned it, changed the thermal paste
Cleaned the fans, swapped the hdd and ssd and installed w10 x64 pro
As soon as I got it, it started to fail.
Bad luck Bryan 😦
rugged summit
Well ima reinstall my gpu drivers when i get home and see if that works
night talon
@rugged summit what OS have you got?
Might as well try to use the stand alone client for each of the sites.
Also, Chrome hogs loads of RAM, so that might be the reason behind your lag
Have you tried using Firefox?
rugged summit
Motherboard:ASUS M5A99X EVO R.2 CPU:AMD FX 8350 8-CORE 4.0 GHZ GPU:EVGA GTX 980Ti 6GB SC+ /EVGA Backplate. RAM:PATRIOT 24GB Viper 3
Windows 10
steep gust
24GB of DDR3 is more than enough for RAM
rugged summit
Im thinkng it the gpu drivers
Cas when im not watching nexflix my games do lag and mouse if fine but as soon as i start warching mouse and fps drops ever few seconds
night talon
What windows have you got? Home? Pro? Enterprise?
I reckon it happens every now and then, right?
Have you check the task manager for the hdd usage?
It could be that windows update is the culprit
rugged summit
Windows is up to date and i believe its home
night talon
Try disabling the wupdate service, restart and see if it happens again.
rugged summit
It only lags tho when i have like Netflix on beside that i got no problem i can play bf1 fine with no frames lost
lofty light
I have the same tbh
When I try and watch YouTube or Netflix on my secondary my games will microstutter or in the case of terraria go to around half the frames
rose eagle
do either or both of you have 144hz monitor and a 60?
i find sometimes weird crap happens if ive got anything going on updating on my 60hz monitor
lofty light
I've got a 144, a 120 and another 144 that's running at 60 😛
Been trying to get an adaptor to run them all at 120 as I'm fairly sure that's what's going on
Could also possibly be gsync as I have that on my main but not the others
rugged summit
I got 144hz running at 120 and a 60 hz
But i whwn im gaing on the 144hz and not like discord on the 60hz it only get frame drops with videos if im on Netflix it wasnt always like this
Whwn im not playing a game just trying to watch a show my mouse starts to lag every few seconds when i moving it
So i was thinking gpu driver or can flash do this also @rose eagle
lofty light
@rugged summit that's the exact same thing I get with the microstutters
I'm decently sure it's due to the differing hz
rugged summit
I wasn't having problems like this tho
It was ok if i try to steam on twitch it lags bad also but it wasnt doing that back then
Ima uninstall gforce exp and the drivers completely and reinstall drivers but not gforce exp cas i hear its no good anyway i manually set my gfx anyway i was just using it for driver updates
lofty light
Same, I only ever use the driver nowadays
forest token
I use it every time, in safe mode
make profile backups if you want to with nvidia inspector
before using ddu
sour ivy
Can anyone recommend me a laptop for college? It needs to be 3 lb. or under, have a decently powerful processor, a backlit keyboard, and it would be nice to have at least MX 150 graphics.
lofty light
How much you looking to spend, you could look at the Dell XPS 13/15 laptops
I've got a 15 and like it
lofty light
The 15 has a 1050ti in the latest one
fiery oracle
15 also overheats like a motherfucker
Suffers from coil whine.
Since its not a gaming laptop
lofty light
Haven't had coil whine on mine, although the screen isn't good for gaming
fiery oracle
Its not a gaming laptop at all. I think either the ram or gpu on that throttles down to like 800 mhz relatively quickly
If anything go mini itx and chromebook for school. If anything i recommend going to a laptop discord. Those guys are anal about making sure you get the best unit you can. Its like their life.
sour ivy
I'm not gaming on it really
fiery oracle
Whats your use case?
lofty light
Oh god, don't go for a chromebook
That's just masochism
Of course if you hate money you could also go with a Surface Book
Those are what I'd get if they could be upgraded and were about half the price
But tbh you're probably looking for one of the ultrabooks that are in the same kind of line as that Dell, as generally they are targeted at college students
sour ivy
I have a macbook, but it's on it's death bed. I will use it for Adobe apps (premiere, photoshop, lightroom, after effects) but also might want to do some light gaming on it.
And I want it to be light
half maple
this is the nerd channel
sour ivy
I wasnt planning on buying a chromebook lol
fiery oracle
Could always look at the lattitude series off of the dell outlet
Ive heard good things about em
storm osprey
9th gen intel open for pre order
storm osprey
yea im interested to see how they perform, i WANT reason to upgrade, but so far the gains at 1440p just isnt worth it
rose eagle
im still convinced my 3770k is more than high perf for 1440p 😉
and an 8700k isnt worth upgrading to.. im not holding my breath for anything being worthwhile
nothing taxes the entire cpu at 1440p
sour ivy
:o
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This one kind of caught my eye
It's kind of overpriced
I'd like one that's light with some sort of dedicated graphics
So something like this but not overpriced
storm osprey
boooo lights
rose eagle
riel i cant convince you eh? ;D
storm osprey
we dont have benchmarks...
lament thistle
Trash as in Overpriced for basically similar performance to last gen Intel and current Ryzen cpu, of course all according to leaks
But who knows it might be better once official benchmarks come out
storm osprey
i think i5 line is going to get a good boost in performance
lament thistle
Most likely
lament thistle
Yeah but you can't beat ryzens added cores and performance multitasking for the price not to mention the nice included coolers
storm osprey
yea, but personally i dont run anything other than the game im playing and discord
i even close chrome
just what im used to
lament thistle
Yeah, it's always good to know exactly what your gonna be doing and go from there
Many don't seem to understand that and go off of fanboyism
storm osprey
i did want to try streaming, but my 4790 dropped frames a bit too much for my liking, so maybe a ryzen cpu will help. but i will wait till 7nm before getting anything
yea i hate when people are blindly suggesting shit
lament thistle
You could also try building a second rig but it's more expensive that way
storm osprey
i have a friend who programs that suggests hardware all the time and im just like.. this is horrible advice
but people fully trust him since hes a programmer
rose eagle
all i know is my 3770k is going to last til 2060
lament thistle
Haha, if only people knew of researching before buying @storm osprey
storm osprey
yea, i will help people with builds all the time, and i tell them its best they do their own research or get another source for help
dont just trust me
rose eagle
this is a gem of a chart that really backs up CPUs not changing much over 8 years
4c8t is plenty for Frostbite
you run into massive trouble in min FPS if no HT
so i dont think the 8c8t i7 coming out will be any good
Core i7-9700K $374 8 / 8
wish there was an update of this chart
id like to see the 8600k and 8700k
lament thistle
And Ryzen 5
rose eagle
yea they snuck the i3 on there..
lament thistle
@storm osprey Are you on reddit? There's a pc building sub that I usually get on and recommend stuff on there
lament thistle
Yeah lots of blind suggestions without taking into account the what the person needs but some good Samaritan usually steps in and explains why it's good or not
rose eagle
there's a ton of "should i upgrade this cpu" threads on bf1 forums
lament thistle
Haha very true
rose eagle
the answer is very easy if intel
lament thistle
Nope
rose eagle
i5 not 8600k? yes
i7? no
😄
i will stick by that answer very firmly, it is literally that easy
lament thistle
Shit even an i3 can handle BF but I'd definitely go for an 8600k if money is tight. But if your upgrading CPU money is probably not an issue
rose eagle
people trying to convince my my min frames are lower on my 3770k but there's no proof anywhere
eh i mean it's like $700 to upgrade
an extra $90 for 8700k is a lot
when gaming perf is similar
lament thistle
Exactly
rose eagle
since the 8600k does so well with 6c6t i would wager the 9700k 8c8t will be a beast
for the price of an 8700k
so many cores, who needs HT?! 😄
MOAR CORES
lament thistle
Haha
rose eagle
opting for the more expensive cpu at the time 3770k 4c8t has kept it from needing an upgrade since 2012 though
because i did have an i5 before that and hated it after 2 yrs
lament thistle
Have you thought about going AMD?
Suppose not since you'll need to replace mobo too
storm osprey
and ram
lament thistle
Oh yeah
rose eagle
ive looked them all over and no i cant really say id take a 2700x over an 8600k
i only game
i just offloaded my PLEX server to my macbook
i do game development with Unity but meh
lament thistle
I can vouch for the 2700x but in your case it doesn't really make sense
rose eagle
AMD would have to pull a major rabbit out for me to switch
and now i have a GSync monitor so i cant go anything but nvidia for gpu
not that they are in any competition
lament thistle
Nvidia is better but my rx580 is better than any 1060 I've used
rose eagle
im still rocking a 970
lament thistle
Really nice card
rugged summit
I got a 980 ti
rose eagle
except for i game in 1440p
;P
V is the first thing to make it cry
i can either say fk you economy and V and be unhappy playing at 50-80fps
or drop $450 on a damn 1080
lament thistle
Oof time for an upgrade then
I'd say go for the 1080 rn before any unexpected mining craze or tarrifs
A gigabyte 1080 is around 470-490 as you said
rose eagle
well, the 2070 is supposed to be 500
so that may be the card to get
it should outperform the 1080 or be on par, so may as well pay the extra 50 bux
lament thistle
I thought the 2070 was dismissed
rose eagle
yea kinda wish i had snagged a Ti for 650
fiery oracle
bout to snag a used one for $250
rugged summit
Evga gpu got payment plans i might go that route
fiery oracle
Do they charge interest?
rose eagle
if i cant afford something i dont buy it
i dont generate any disposable income so that'd be bad lol
wife and kid eat it all
storm osprey
@fiery oracle you found a 1080ti for 250?!
storm osprey
i have the 1080 ftw dt
fiery oracle
Nah i found a 1080. I wish it was a ti id shit myself
Sell wife. Rent child. Buy gpu
Easy
storm osprey
i had a 980 ti, and went to that 1080
DT stands for detuned
which means it doesnt come factory OC
and the reason is probably because it couldnt OC to the FTW name
BUT that doesnt mean under your circumstances you cant OC to the point of FTW OC
it was the cheapest option for me at the time, and still seems like the cheapest option now for 1080's. imo, if you dont plan on OC, dont get it, if you do, get it
storm osprey
if youre gaming at 1080p imo the 1080 is overkill
even if its 144hz
1070/1070ti are the most i would recommend for 1080p 144hz
but at that point a 980ti is slightly behind a 1070
rugged summit
I got the 980 ti the 1070 not a big difference ill look into the 1070 ti
storm osprey
1070ti is only slightly better than 1070
if i were you i wouldnt be looking at a new gpu
storm osprey
what do you have?