technology

[limpid glade]

60-70 degrees is fine as long as it is stable

No need using more fans to get 40-50

[untold geode]

i use 1 fan

bc it's cool in my roon

[limpid glade]

You have a very cool GPU that's why

My room is 20 degrees. Very cool too.

[untold geode]

i have the oddest set up

[steep gust]

Mine doesn't hit past 70C when overclocked and I can't hear it over my CPU heatsink anyways

but the cooler is kinda overkill

[untold geode]

tech is boring

so much tech

[steep gust]

then don't be in this channel?

[untold geode]

only one withepeople

[steep gust]

find another discord? You don't have to use the wrong channel then complain about it

[limpid glade]

What GPU do you use then @steep gust

[steep gust]

Asus ROG Strix 1080

[limpid glade]

Watercooled?

[steep gust]

nah

Its just super overkill

[limpid glade]

How can you not hear your fans?

[steep gust]

Because the CPU fans are loud?

'loud'

I can't hear them with a headset on anyways

[limpid glade]

I can only hear my intake fans

[steep gust]

Now at 100% fan speed they get loud, but they never get pass like 60%

[limpid glade]

Ah ok

[steep gust]

Fans don't even kick on until 55C

[limpid glade]

Mine are at 30% with no games playing

[steep gust]

feelsbad

[limpid glade]

Can't hear it though

[steep gust]

Yeah all my case fans are 3pin so they aren't exactly quiet

[limpid glade]

Ah I see

[prime jasper]

I cant even hear my fans since I always have headphones on

[silk echo]

So im looking into getting a new CPU

the 8700K and intel ones are too pricey for me

So im looking at the 2600 Ryzen, Tho i heard you need at least 16 gigs of ram running at 3200mhz and the fps dont look that high, any opinions?

[sour ivy]

8600k

[silk echo]

the 8700K and intel ones are too pricey for me

[molten coral]

Kartov can't you save up a bit longer ?

[prime jasper]

@silk echo the 8600k isnt that much more than a 2600. But technically what you heard isn't exactly true. You want 16gb of ram because it helps with system stability since everything wants so much of it, secondly with ryzen 2933 is fine

[silk echo]

I can, but i doubt ill have enough money for games releasing and everything i need before black friday @molten coral

[prime jasper]

the motherboards both cost the same as with ryzen, cheaping out will cause massive issues with the system stability as a whole

with intel, you just have a shitty board that you cant do dick all on

[silk echo]

Im looking at the B450 A PRO

[prime jasper]

I would highly suggest never getting a b450

[graceful night]

i have b350 and its working fine af

[prime jasper]

the only reason you'd get one is A) you're getting a ryzen 3 or B) you've been lobotomized

[graceful night]

i have Ryzen 1600 oced to 3.8 already 1 year

[silk echo]

let me just put this here, I do want to do cinematics n stream tho

[graceful night]

Some people just don't have money for X370/ X470

[prime jasper]

cough dead board in two years cough

b350 with oc will fry the SMCs increadibly fast

[graceful night]

We will see

[silk echo]

Im on a tight budget

[prime jasper]

I've fried 19 of them in the past month

[silk echo]

id get an Intel without thinking twice

but i cannot.

[graceful night]

Most of the people on YT say they are just fine

[prime jasper]

Most people on youtube also are complete imbeciles when it comes to pcb construction and mosfet lifespan from poor SMCs

plus b350/b450 boards are a complete joke and a marketing scam

they literally put fake caps on there to make people think it has doublers

[molten coral]

Jesus, how much of an elitist are you gonna be? He already said he won't have the money to get intel etc. So why don't you suggest a motherboard if you are so against the B350/B450?

[prime jasper]

hell on an msi board they put 2 doublers and they had no leads on them

[silk echo]

my budget is 400 bucks.

[prime jasper]

Not elitism, it's called market knowledge

[silk echo]

I dont have the fucking money to spend.

[graceful night]

Yea but thats the thing

[silk echo]

saying that intel is better isnt going to help anyone

[graceful night]

You have none if you think everyone can buy anything

[silk echo]

not me, not you and not my dog

[prime jasper]

Then save your money for black friday and save a ton more

Im not saying buy intel

Im saying don't get scammed by most b350/b450 boards

[silk echo]

well i dont have the money to buy something else

[prime jasper]

what country?

[silk echo]

I have the H81M for about 4 years now and its fucking amazing

so i doubt the b450 will burst into flames the second i connect it

[graceful night]

I have B350 for a year

[prime jasper]

No, but the moment you overclock it, they tend to have voltage issues and heating issues

[graceful night]

with overclock and i had absolutly no problems

[silk echo]

im not planning to OC

[graceful night]

Without OC they are gonna last probably 10 years

[prime jasper]

Not really

[graceful night]

Maybe 7

[prime jasper]

most boards are designed for 6

you can get them to 8

[graceful night]

Asus M2N for old Athlon i had lasted me for 12 years

[silk echo]

oof

[graceful night]

Of almost everyday use

[prime jasper]

I have an am3 not am4+ board thats lasted me 11 years

or so

olderboards were made better

modern ones they cheap out

But yeah so we have a literal office filled with b450 boards that havent sold

I was asking the country for a reason

[silk echo]

Israel

[prime jasper]

We cant sell the boards

fuck

[silk echo]

yup

[prime jasper]

I need them out of my office

hardware swap bought 39

but we still have 73 more

[silk echo]

just gi🅱 one

[prime jasper]

I would

but israel

[silk echo]

yeah im not blaming you

[prime jasper]

Ok, so I will give you way more leniency on cheaping out then since I know the taxes are a ripoff on tech

[graceful night]

Same for me in Croatia

25% tax without anything else

[prime jasper]

thats not an excuse, croatia is richer than the US

[silk echo]

[prime jasper]

everyone is happy

[graceful night]

???

No

We hate our goverment

[prime jasper]

Everyone is a millionaire

[strong breach]

i need a new SSD tbh

[graceful night]

They are bunch of thieves

[prime jasper]

@strong breach Samsung

[graceful night]

Mate are you kidding me

[strong breach]

[graceful night]

Yep Samsung is the best one

[strong breach]

running out space here

[prime jasper]

its called sarcasm

[strong breach]

[graceful night]

Wou

[prime jasper]

fun fact, some of the cheaper x470 boards are just b450s with a different bios

@strong breach why are the uploads blocked in tech now?

[molten coral]

uploads blocked?

[prime jasper]

yes, we cant upload files or photos

hmm maybe us normal trash users cant

the actual fuck is with amd board prices

b450 $140

fuck that

[strong breach]

oh are they

[prime jasper]

not anymore they aren't. Thank you hess

[strong breach]

wait actually im going to ask why they were disabled first

brb

[prime jasper]

ok

I'm guessing a troll or an accident

unless someone got jealous by the quadro voltas that I ghetto rigged liquid coolers to

duct tape, it's the best]

cant be the latter since I never did that

@silk echo are you running a 4770k?

[silk echo]

nah mate

worse

4590

[prime jasper]

if you really wanted to cheap out and wait, get a 4770k/4790k

they still hold their own

and used ones are dirt cheap

[silk echo]

is buying used even safe?

[prime jasper]

yes

I dont know how it is in israel, but in the US people generally will set it up so you can see it works

[silk echo]

nah

you just buy it

[prime jasper]

not saying from a store

from some rando on craigslist

[silk echo]

yeah

[prime jasper]

from a store, generally they should be safe

[silk echo]

we dont have craigslist

But from someone or from a store, you just buy it

[prime jasper]

y'all country is weird

[silk echo]

oh trust me, i know

@prime jasper What about the 8600?

[prime jasper]

I just don't like intel processors that can't be overclocked

[graceful night]

plus you are better of buying 8500 if you wont overclock

[silk echo]

and this one has less threads than 2600

[prime jasper]

feels like I'm spending a ton of money of something I'll be forced to replace

[graceful night]

What games are you interested in playing

[silk echo]

Forza Horizon, BFV

[prime jasper]

4770k

srsly

[silk echo]

and tbh if they run at 60FPS i want to make videos

[prime jasper]

holds it own and crushes 60

[graceful night]

With Ryzen 1600 i have 160 frames in BF1

In BFV Alpha i had 80 but its alpha so

[prime jasper]

thats weird

[graceful night]

?

[prime jasper]

8700k 1080ti, I kept having bad fps drops

maxing out at like 90fps

[graceful night]

I also had them

But i avraged around 80

[prime jasper]

I was getting lows of like 6

[graceful night]

thats what im saying

[silk echo]

yeah, the game is badly optimized

[cedar arch]

[graceful night]

Yep same

[prime jasper]

yeah

[silk echo]

irig

[graceful night]

I went from like 10 to 80 in second

[prime jasper]

what gpu?

[graceful night]

GTX 1060 6G

[cedar arch]

kartov

[graceful night]

but everything was on low and i have 8 gigs of ram

2400Mhz

[silk echo]

we dont have the 4770K in israel OMEGALUL

[prime jasper]

ignoring the shite optimization, 1080p and Im getting 80 on low

[graceful night]

80 was in like not crowded areas

60ish was when fighting with drops

I have made a montage in comunity creations you can see many drops in it

[prime jasper]

explosions were hurting me, not gun fights

[graceful night]

Yap

[silk echo]

THE 4770K IS 1.7 SHEKELS

[cedar arch]

kartov check this list derek gave me for u

[graceful night]

But also gun fights at rly close range

[silk echo]

WHAT THE FUCK

[cedar arch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CX7CGf

[prime jasper]

I made a single twitch stream abot bf5

[silk echo]

I said my budget is 1500

[graceful night]

I was recording and it lagged so hard sometimes

[cedar arch]

[prime jasper]

wait what

[graceful night]

Turning off shadwoplay helped a little bit

[silk echo]

https://i.imgur.com/cIG0Hgv.png

[prime jasper]

how much is a 2600?

[graceful night]

But i turned it on for the sake of reloading

[silk echo]

It says in hebrew that the price is 1700

[prime jasper]

the fuck

is that

[silk echo]

the 4770K you suiggested

[prime jasper]

your country is fucked

[graceful night]

Is that in dolars or?

[prime jasper]

no Im talking about the retardation behind the price

[silk echo]

Shekel

[graceful night]

how much is a shekel

in euros or dolars

[prime jasper]

thats $464usd

[silk echo]

1 USD iz 3.4 Shekel

[graceful night]

wtf

[silk echo]

Irig

Ill be honest

[cedar arch]

ahh

[silk echo]

What you sent looks pretty good

[graceful night]

I have 4770K for probably less then 230 in my country

[silk echo]

we barely have them here

[cedar arch]

@silk echo derek found that deals for u

[graceful night]

But in second hand shops

Why buying the non K procesor from intel

[silk echo]

1500Shekels

Thats my entire budget

But i dont need a fan for the 8700? @cedar arch

[graceful night]

No it comes with it if its not K

But its kinda shit

[cedar arch]

u can buy a cheap cooler master cooler

[silk echo]

[prime jasper]

The msi z370 gaming plus fyi isnt technically a z370 board

[silk echo]

Can i use the one i have right now?

[prime jasper]

it just has a bios of one and you pay like $60 more for that

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144154

this is literally the same board

[cedar arch]

yeah u can but temps will be a bit high

derek's 2nd list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XvY4dX

[prime jasper]

evo 212 can barely cool a 8700

[cedar arch]

but it can

[silk echo]

thats cheaper

Tho i do like the Intel more

[prime jasper]

also same thing, that msi board is no different than the much cheaper counterpart

[silk echo]

[prime jasper]

this is a case where the b450 is a better buy

[silk echo]

Dude

im getting a PC to play games

not to play with the mobo

[prime jasper]

its about best bang for the buck

why pay more when there is something thats exactly the same but cheaper?

[silk echo]

So if i get the 8700, ill NEED to get a cooler?

[prime jasper]

Yes

[silk echo]

ah motherfucker

[prime jasper]

coffee lake runs hot

very hot

[opaque saddle]

i mean i prefer getting a decent mb...

[prime jasper]

my idle with my 8700k is 37c and I have a have a d15

I see loads of 70c a lot

[sour ivy]

The 8600k is pretty close to the 2600 in price @silk echo

Pht what is it clocked at

[prime jasper]

and I also have a case designed for airflow

4.7

[sour ivy]

Aight

[prime jasper]

I didnt put LM on it yet

[silk echo]

Yeah

And the 2600 comes with a nice fan

[prime jasper]

too lazy

[cedar arch]

but a good mobo means better life expectancy

[prime jasper]

its a pm01 and dealing with the backside of the case is a massive pita

[opaque saddle]

and you're getting the parts from newegg...

[silk echo]

am i?

[opaque saddle]

maybe

[prime jasper]

hes not

[silk echo]

thats more taxes

[cedar arch]

but u told me u only trust new egg

[prime jasper]

we're dealing with a very sticky situation with israel

i have my cryorig h7 with 4.3ghz running under 60c in games like bf1

also

fucking shekels

[silk echo]

Ikr

it adds about 80 bucks more if i order from Newegg

[prime jasper]

80bucks for what

taxes

[silk echo]

shipping and taxes

[prime jasper]

this discord has made me hate israel fyi

[silk echo]

I dont blame you

[prime jasper]

that sounded weird

I have one rule, dont fuck with my tech prices

oh sad news, caselabs is now out of business

[opaque saddle]

[silk echo]

The 2600 is 130 bucks cheaper than the Intel build

[prime jasper]

not that anyone here but me has ever bought anything from them

[cedar arch]

thermaltake copied them

[silk echo]

AND it comes with a decent fan

[prime jasper]

"decent"

[opaque saddle]

i prefer 212 over the stock fan

[silk echo]

it gets the job done

[cedar arch]

yeah

[prime jasper]

what case are you using?

[silk echo]

when ill have the money, ill get a normal case

[opaque saddle]

ATX?

or M-ATX?

[silk echo]

gx900

[opaque saddle]

ATX then

[prime jasper]

antec?

[silk echo]

Yeah

[prime jasper]

thats umm

well its a case and it isnt overly gody

but yeah so

the 212 woulc be worse in that case

[silk echo]

lets not find more problems pls

and solve then ones we are looking at

[prime jasper]

no im saying that the ryzen stock fan is beter

how much is cryorig h7 there see if they got that there

so thats some saving

its pretty good

[opaque saddle]

212 is hard to setup

[cedar arch]

tru

[prime jasper]

like $1900 shekels

[silk echo]

Then i guess im going for the 2600

nice one

[opaque saddle]

really difficult to setup...

[silk echo]

$1900 shekels

[sour ivy]

Do you have decent ram

[silk echo]

either its USD or Shekel mate

Imma buy it

[prime jasper]

$2000 shekel

[cedar arch]

can i post a benchmark video

[silk echo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XvY4dX

This is what ill be getting i guess

[cedar arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wq4lhsFX84

[silk echo]

DAMN its GPU heavy

[prime jasper]

save a few bucks, just go with the b450 if you want msi

[cedar arch]

@silk echo yeah derek's list he made it tnx u derek @opaque saddle

[opaque saddle]

i mean i prefer a better mb...

[silk echo]

Yeah i guess ill go with that list

[prime jasper]

or should I say, save a few shekels

[silk echo]

If you said that the B450 is bad

[cedar arch]

b450 wont be that good in long run and u cant sli

[sour ivy]

He says everything is bad

[cedar arch]

who

[prime jasper]

Yes, but that x470 is just a b450 with x470 software

I was getting at the VRMS on b450s being generally worse than x470s

[cedar arch]

with sli and better stability so if he decides to oc

[prime jasper]

but when you have twi identical boards, go for the cheaper one

[opaque saddle]

i reckon the 2600 can "kinda" OC

[prime jasper]

he's not doing sli

[silk echo]

How can one check his ram without actually opening his PC?

[opaque saddle]

or unlock?

[sour ivy]

The vendors list

[prime jasper]

there isn't a major difference in the stability because that b450 and x470 board

[cedar arch]

@silk echo software in bios

[silk echo]

thats a bitch

[sour ivy]

Qualified vendors list for compatible ram

Wait what are you trying to check

The clock.

?

[silk echo]

No

my ram

like name

[prime jasper]

you have ddr3

[silk echo]

Yeah

[sour ivy]

Oof

[silk echo]

I know it doesnt have a heat shield

[sour ivy]

Time to shell out like 170 dollars for 16gb ddr4

[prime jasper]

you have an intel 4th gen which uses ddr3 ram

[silk echo]

yes

4590

[prime jasper]

so you'll need to buy ddr4

[silk echo]

I might be able to sell this to get more money

[molten coral]

@sour ivy You remind me that I paid 400 for 32GB with RGB

No regrets

[sour ivy]

Except paying for what would cost like 250 a few years ago

[silk echo]

maybe CPUZ can check it

[prime jasper]

I paid $27 for 16gb ddr4 trident z rgb

[sour ivy]

That's a sexy build

8700k and 1080ti?

[molten coral]

8700k and a 1070.

[prime jasper]

but ignore my prices since I get everything at cost

[molten coral]

$27 ....

[prime jasper]

I own a repair shop that does custom builds

[molten coral]

I wish I had an opportunity to buy hardware at such low prices.

Oh alright then it makes sense.

[prime jasper]

also my attitude towards some things makes sense also

spend a lot of time testing things just to see how far I can take it on X thing

[silk echo]

So no way of knowing whats my model of ram without opening up my PC?

[prime jasper]

I told you want model it was

its ddr3

[silk echo]

no

the model

[cedar arch]

he knows that he needs the exact model and company '

[silk echo]

yes

[prime jasper]

oh you mean brand?

[silk echo]

everything

[prime jasper]

or

ahh

[silk echo]

i want to sell it, so i want to see for how much it sells

[prime jasper]

yeah youd probably need to open it up

is it a green pcb?

[silk echo]

I might get more money to spend

No heat shield for sure

Dont murder me but https://i.imgur.com/gcFlPbC.png

this gives any info?

[prime jasper]

yes

fuck

[silk echo]

so.. eh. whats the name?

[prime jasper]

cant upload images

[silk echo]

DM me

[prime jasper]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231636

thats what it is

[silk echo]

perfect

thanks

[strong breach]

ye ill re-enable embedding

[prime jasper]

part number is what you were looking for

manufacturer was g.skill

[silk echo]

So two of the ram i have, the 4590 and H81M, how much you think i can get?

[prime jasper]

umm

[silk echo]

Maybe 900 more shekels?

[prime jasper]

like $60-80 usd for the ram

at the high end

this is something I really cant tell you since there isnt much demand for it in the US

to the point were we sell 8gb sticks for $10 fairly frequently

[silk echo]

There is legit no price to it

[prime jasper]

I'd say just look for ddr3 1600

generic pricing

[silk echo]

no for the mobo

[prime jasper]

start from there

oh

well

[silk echo]

there is a price for the ram

[prime jasper]

the mobo is one of those I have no clue things again

[silk echo]

lmao my PC is ancient

[prime jasper]

its a board that I never heard of type thing

or at the very least didnt remember

[silk echo]

https://i.imgur.com/Vbirt00.png

ah ffs

NEWEGG

SHOW ME THE PRICE

[prime jasper]

prices for the board on amazon

but

[silk echo]

You know what board?

[prime jasper]

h81m-e

[silk echo]

not the E one

and i cant find it

just H81M

[prime jasper]

so this means nothing

that seems way too high

[silk echo]

so 60 bucks

[prime jasper]

from a store

[silk echo]

so 900 shekels

[prime jasper]

maybe

I'd expect less

personally

[silk echo]

thats 245$

[prime jasper]

ppotentially

not to be a downer

it's just older tech so you might have to lower the prices to sell

but

[silk echo]

A CPU, 16Gigs of ram and Mobo for 245$

[prime jasper]

that might be a killer deal in israel

I dont know

[silk echo]

Oh it is

[prime jasper]

I have american bias here

[silk echo]

is the H310 wider than the H81M?

@cedar arch @prime jasper I have 200 bucks more

[cedar arch]

600

[silk echo]

Now i want to know if i can sell my Fan aswell or not

[cedar arch]

yeah u can

only 4 a few bucks

5-6

[silk echo]

Cause if i get an Intel i need to get a normal fan aswell

[cedar arch]

i will give u a new list

[prime jasper]

This is a case of, just go with the ryzen and avoid headaches

[forest token]

oof, middle mouse button started doing double/triple clicks on one press. rebound a dpi button to middle mouse and the other dpi button to rotate through dpi settings

[silk echo]

Im so lucky

I have legit 1 shekel spare

I have 1890 and the build costs 1889

[wet notch]

Anyone good with computer hardware and stuff? need help with cpu fan replacement

[languid mesa]

Ebay

[strong breach]

Noctua

it's a decent brand with CPU coolers

[wet notch]

I have an Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake, Socket-LGA1151 CPU
so far i've used an Akasa CPU Cooler AK-959CU Socket 1150/1155/1156
How do I know which coollers will fit my rig?

[strong breach]

wait a second

Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake, Socket-LGA1151
Akasa CPU Cooler AK-959CU Socket 1150/1155/1156

How did it fit

[wet notch]

i dunno, i bought it this way lol

it was a package

[strong breach]

what is your budget

for a cooler

[wet notch]

hmm

50-70 euros maybe

[strong breach]

uh i can only find Finnish sites

NH-U14S should be around 70€

and it supports socket 1151

[wet notch]

wait, so that cpu cooller they said they included could be the wrong one?

if its not supposed to fit?

[strong breach]

uh are you sure it didn't say socket 115x

which would cover anything

[wet notch]

https://www.komplett.se/product/862988#

thats the one they say was included

in the receipt or whatever

[strong breach]

oh heck that looks weak

from the first glance

[wet notch]

yeah

well it worked for 3 years but not sounding too good now

[strong breach]

Dual Intel mounting (LGA775 & LGA115X)

it says 115X

[wet notch]

"intel approved pushpins ensure easy installation, reliable retention and maximum compatibility on both LGA775 and LGA115X platforms without any mounting adjustment, pushpins will automatically slide into correct position."

[strong breach]

I'd recommend something from noctua ✌

their coolers are great

[wet notch]

ok

[strong breach]

you can check the combability from the socket

[wet notch]

they have a bunch of those on the website as well

[strong breach]

and then just make sure all the dimensions also fit in your case

[wet notch]

but im still not sure which socket i should use

when searching etc

[strong breach]

your CPU is LGA 1151

so any cooler with LGA 1151 or LGA 115x

will fit

[wet notch]

ah ok

thanks bro

[strong breach]

just make sure that your case has enough room for the cooler

if it happens to be larger than your last one

👀

[wet notch]

yeah

so this could fit if the case fits it?

Noctua NH-U9S CPU Kylare
115x/2011/2011-3/2066, AM2/AM3, 400~2000 RPM, 78,9 m³/h, ~22 dBA

[strong breach]

what case you got

[wet notch]

Corsair Carbide SPEC-03 Midi Tower Svart
Fläktar: 1x 120mm Front, 1x 20mm Bak, ATX, mATX,
2x USB 3.0, Vit LEDs

sry for the swedish but cba translating

[strong breach]

i know a bit of swedish no worries

it says max CPU cooler height 157mm

so anything under that should fit

[wet notch]

oh cool

[strong breach]

so like pick anything that is LGA1151 and like 155mm in height

that should fit

[wet notch]

ah ok, cuz the current fun, the akasa one looks REALLY low

so im worried about the height and stuff

[strong breach]

would suck if the cooler didn't fit

[wet notch]

yeah

i also don't want too little room above the fan height wise

[strong breach]

Hope you'll find a good one

[wet notch]

yeah me too, thanks for the help 😃

[prime jasper]

https://www.twitch.tv/nvidia

poggers

1h 23min

[prime jasper]

@wet notch cheap cooler that fits: Cryorig H7

technically you can fit a nh-d15 in there if you wanted the best

but

it's a very clunky fit

zotacs order form for rtx series confirmed by a few media outlets.

so more expensive than a 1080ti

[wet notch]

yeah it feels a bit too close for comfort tbh

i got like less than 1cm room to spare

[prime jasper]

Ignore ram clearance

thats how I fit a d15 into a cougar panzer

[wet notch]

what's that mean, ignore ram clearance?

[prime jasper]

part of the height for the d15 is for the fan to go over the ram

[wet notch]

but my case has room for like 15 cm i think

so 14.5cm will almost touch the side of the case "wall"

[prime jasper]

thats how most cases are

just saying, you could

[wet notch]

well if it doesnt fit i just wasted CASH

[prime jasper]

not that you should

[wet notch]

😄

[prime jasper]

thats one of those cases where you can technically do a lot

but... not really

like the cougar panzer

[fluid notch]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1031581744523354112

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

NEWS: #Battlefield V will support @nvidia’s new RTX Ray Tracing technology. Real-Time ray tracing will only be supported by the RTX 2080, 2080 Ti and 2070.

Twitter

[agile rain]

No 2060 support?

[prime jasper]

its bout the money

[agile rain]

[prime jasper]

i wonder what the prices are for rtx 2070 in finland

or rtx 2080

Pny also confirmed their specs for the RTX 2080

btw

i wanna see some fps benchmarks

You won't be seeing those until the first sales are made I believe

[fluid notch]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/20-series/

ouch

[prime jasper]

@prime jasper not going to lie, those specs make me very happy that I got a 1080ti when I did

that being said

these are ray tracing cards

not gtx

gtx could still come

[prime jasper]

thats a deal

[strong breach]

1500€ in finland

maybe ill just

get 2070

[prime jasper]

what u have now

[strong breach]

1070

maybe i won't upgrade yet at all

who knows

[prime jasper]

same

gb windforce is 1300€

[strong breach]

ouch

[prime jasper]

ill prob keep 1080ti

[fluid notch]

19 phase power for the EVGA 2080Ti FTW3 cards... er how....

need three cables to the GPU

[prime jasper]

need good psu

Even though the rtx are ray tracing cards, their performance is so much better than the 10 series

[agile rain]

I have a buddy who just showed me his preorder of the 2080ti

He makes like 41/hr

[prime jasper]

:(

Tis too expensive

I can only afford the 2080

[agile rain]

Lol

He makes hella bread

[prime jasper]

oh damn

[strong breach]

Heyyyy @prime jasper wanna send me one of those rtx2070s for 550usd

Kappa

[prime jasper]

Hess

just make the box look chinese and write the value stated as 19€

Hey @strong breach ur funny

[strong breach]

I trusted you

[prime jasper]

Debating whether or not I should wait for EVGAs cards to come out or get the founders edition

[fluid notch]

Slaps 2080ti

You can get so many hundreds out of this.

[prime jasper]

Wut

[sour ivy]

Does that relate to tech?

Please don't promote your YouTube here

I think there's a channel for that

Thanks for deleting it, or to the admin who did.

[unreal locust]

REEEEEEEEEEE

[agile rain]

No one has struggled until you have used a laptop that would take 7 hours to render a 720P video

[unreal locust]

OMG

[agile rain]

That was me in like 2013

Duo 2 @ 1.8Ghz and 2GB ram

[rose eagle]

alright nothing matters til i see Battlefield 1 benchmarks on all these cards

[wet notch]

dude

you aint seen nothin

back in my day, me and a friend waited for an hour for some commandore 64 game to load and the damn thing crashed

[rose eagle]

2060 cards supposedly turned up a ~16k 3dmark score hard rumors eh

sounds like poo

fat chance in hell, 1080ti's only score like 6k?

oh, a specific test nm

16k 2060, 20k 1070ti, 29k 1080ti

these are all facts because they're on the internet

[unreal locust]

Yeah, system requirements are touching the GTX 10 series already.

so sad, but the card I have now is much better then the GTX 750Ti I used to use

[rose eagle]

i hope the open beta is optimized within 10% on the 6th

[unreal locust]

I had a GTX 460 before that

GTX 1070Ti FTW Ultra Silent

is what I have now

[agile rain]

The min for the alpha was like 1050ti

[rose eagle]

my 560ti lasted 4 yr, this 970gtx is fading already at 3...

min for alpha was a GTX 2080

😄

aint nobody gettin 100fps

[agile rain]

I have a 1060 so I am good for high settings in BFV

[rose eagle]

phantom hardware

good for a 60hz monitor? ;P

[agile rain]

I was getting like 80 on high in the alpha when it wasn't dropping due to bad optimization

[rose eagle]

1080p..

[unreal locust]

I am stuck with 60hz

[rose eagle]

i got a 144hz 1440p so ive set a higher bar

[sour ivy]

Same

[rose eagle]

kinda screwed myself

[unreal locust]

I turn on Vsyinc it rides between 61-55 FPS, When I turn it off it hovers between 120 and 80 FPS with micro studders with default recommended settings in Battlefield 1

it looks great even at 1080p

looks better then BF3 or BF4

[rose eagle]

enabling vsync locks your input though that's gotta feel bad

[unreal locust]

yeah it sucks

[agile rain]

I use Nvidia FastSync which will throw out any frames that exceed the monitor refresh

[unreal locust]

but I get microstuddering and screen tearing without Vsync sometimes.

@agile rain how

[agile rain]

Nvidia control panel

[rose eagle]

im pretty happy with GSync

[unreal locust]

Nvidia control panel!

[rose eagle]

requires 10xx cards

[agile rain]

For GSync?

[rose eagle]

FastSync

[agile rain]

Nope, used it on my 960

[rose eagle]

i dont think it's working..

unless they somehow went backwards to support it

[unreal locust]

where is the fast sync setting

[rose eagle]

3d

[agile rain]

You just set FastSync as your global option then thats it, it will not render any frames that exceed the refresh rate

[unreal locust]

I dont see fast snyc

[rose eagle]

vertical sync dropdown

thats... odd as it only rolled out for Pascal GPUs

[agile rain]

Been using it for years now

[unreal locust]

fastest?

or just fast

[rose eagle]

i dont see fastest lol

im curious why this isnt known info or defaults

[agile rain]

Do you not see my screenshot? Where it says Vertical Sync, I have it set to Fast

[unreal locust]

oh wait

I was reading between the lines just fast lol

[rose eagle]

weird you can use it with GSync

but theres no way in hell fps will ever exceed my 144hz 😄

so this has never been an issue

[agile rain]

I have heard of many combining FastSync + GSync

[rose eagle]

maybe in like... Overwatch

[unreal locust]

FUCK YOU NVIDIA FOR HIDING FASTSYNC!

[rose eagle]

a huge minority of people would get > fps than a 144hz monitor

but yea, in overwatch.. perhaps

it would matter there, competitive!

[unreal locust]

🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 Gsync

🖕 800 dollar 1440p 144hz Gsync IPS monitor!

[agile rain]

GSync sucks because Nvidia charges too much for the damn monitors

FreeSync is better

[rose eagle]

$350 yo, black friday 😄

[unreal locust]

FreeSync is AMD only the Red Team Yuck!

[rose eagle]

massive steal on this Dell

[agile rain]

FreeSync CAN work on Nvidia but Nvidia doesnt support it

[rose eagle]

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Gaming-S2716DGR-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B0149QBOF0

[agile rain]

FreeSync just uses exisiting HDMI and DP standards

[rose eagle]

keep an eye on this one though it goes to $350 2-3x a year

[rose eagle]

i just dont have the gpu to push it 😄

😦

😢

[agile rain]

See, FreeSync is an open standard

[rose eagle]

damn hippy

i bet you like open source software also!

[agile rain]

Gsync requires some stuff to be built into the monitor, but FreeSync just uses HDMI 2.0 (or something like that) or DP

[rose eagle]

Xbox one X is going to support freesync soon if not already i believe

[agile rain]

Yep

[rose eagle]

my q6 has Freesync

;D but like hell if im buyin an xbox one x any time soon lol

[unreal locust]

I cry, DVI is going to die soon

[agile rain]

FreeSync itself is just an API thing, so if Nvidia wasn't greedy, even Nvidia cards could use FreeSync

[unreal locust]

those still rockin a DVI needs to use the Display to DVI adapter lol

[rose eagle]

i gotta make sure the 2070 has a dual link dvi lol

[agile rain]

I didnt know anyone still uses DVI 👀

[rose eagle]

cause my 2nd 1440p monitor HDMI is 1.2 x_x

the only input that does 1440p is the dvi

[unreal locust]

🖐

[rose eagle]

does dport to dvi work?

[agile rain]

What? No way DVI has higher res than HDMI

[rose eagle]

we old yo

HDMI 1.2

only does 1080p

need 1.4 i believe

[agile rain]

Wow

My monitor just has 2 HDMI and a VGA

[unreal locust]

DVI dual lnk 1260x1600

[rose eagle]

no dport??

[agile rain]

Nope, it was $200 like 2 years ago

IPS display

[rose eagle]

i see

MSRP or on sale? ;P

[agile rain]

I could use a 2nd monitor

MSRP

[rose eagle]

i got a 1080p 27" samsung in the closet

[agile rain]

TV

[rose eagle]

tv monitor!

😄

[agile rain]

TVs are horrible

for input lag

[unreal locust]

2560x1440 DVI can handle that

but not really recommended

[agile rain]

I dont even touch my 24" TV anymore

[rose eagle]

i havent seen any dport > DVI-D

[agile rain]

My monitor has better colors and input lag

I have a DP > HDMI I'm using right now

or wait, Im not using it but I have it

[rose eagle]

all adapters ive seen only do 1080p..

[agile rain]

But I need it for a 2nd monitor because new cards only end up having 1 HDMI

[rose eagle]

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-DisplayPort-Active-Adapter-Converter/dp/B00A493CNY

except this one x_x

$100

[agile rain]

RIP

My 1060 has only 1 HDMI and 3 DP

[rose eagle]

ouch

[agile rain]

But its ok, I have the DP > HDMI adapter cable

[rose eagle]

1440p requiring dvi-d is a crutch

concerned about the 20xx card outputs

[agile rain]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AXI8M7Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[rose eagle]

no 1440p

[agile rain]

Oh well 👀

[rose eagle]

yea thats the kicker lol

i got two 27" 1440ps

diff models though

[agile rain]

Btw, this my card https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I5O5AP2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[rose eagle]

if i was rich id get a clone of the Dell because ive noticed weird mouse slowdowns

i think having a 60hz + 144hz pisses something off

[sour ivy]

Super compact

[agile rain]

My 1060 is compact indeed

Although I have alot of space so didnt need compact XD

[sour ivy]

Mine is giant

[rose eagle]

i just installed a Coolermaster 212 EVO and holy crap lol

[sour ivy]

Holy crap in a good way or bad way

[agile rain]

212 evos are big

[rose eagle]

like 6in

[agile rain]

Im just using the stock Ryzen cooler

[sour ivy]

Same

[rose eagle]

4.5x2x6

[rose eagle]

biggest fan ever

120mm but the whole unit is just huge

[sour ivy]

Yeah the ryzen cooler is pretty good

[rose eagle]

the stock i7 old school gen 1 cooler was no good ;P

[agile rain]

Highest temp ever reported was 256C ;3

[rose eagle]

but now i can get 4.3ghz out of her and the heatsink is only $30 - $10 MIR right now

[sour ivy]

That's gotta be an error

[rose eagle]

$20 and i got an extra 700mhz outta the cpu

[agile rain]

Nah ;3

[rose eagle]

LOL

[agile rain]

Legit temps ;3

[rose eagle]

totes

[agile rain]

I was cooking a steak fam

[rose eagle]

while running cinebench, occt, and prime95

in hell

use cpuID hw mon

[agile rain]

I needa get myself an AIO

[rose eagle]

monitor all dem cores

[agile rain]

an OC the 1600 to match 1600x speeds

[rose eagle]

< 85c is safe

for OC to me

the biggest part is how much voltage you're shovin at it

[agile rain]

If only I had a good cooler I could have OC'ed my 8320 to make it less trash

[sour ivy]

I'm thinking of overclocking my 2600x

[rose eagle]

on stock?

[sour ivy]

Ye

Just a bit

[rose eagle]

oy

get the $20 coolermaster!

[sour ivy]

Which one

[rose eagle]

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI

[agile rain]

Basically right after getting my 1600 the 2600 came out, then I buy 1060 and 20x series comes out, although we probably wont see the 2060 until the end of the year

[rose eagle]

yea i hit the brakes, something told me the announce would be legit this time

[agile rain]

Oh well, 1060 should serve well for like another 2 years before the graphics settings start havign to be cranked down

[rose eagle]

BF1 wont even run 100fps on my rig on low

970 is about equiv to a 1060

[agile rain]

What card?

Oh 970

[rose eagle]

i mean it may as well be a 1060, its not that bad

[sour ivy]

I have a t2

[rose eagle]

but the 1440p and wanting 144hz is a problem

[agile rain]

I run on high, except for stupid stuf like effects and post process

[sour ivy]

Idk of thats better or worse than the stock

[agile rain]

BF1 runs great on the 1060

[rose eagle]

yea ill wait for 2070 to either shatter 1080ti prices or get one

[agile rain]

The 970 only has 3.5gb vram so not exactly a 1060 6gb

[rose eagle]

eh, i mean bf1 doesnt really push it

unless you want to play ultra

1060 cant play ultra either anyway

[agile rain]

But 6gb vram 👀

Im sure you could have ultra textures

[rose eagle]

doesnt do much good when you have to drop BF1 to medium and only use 3gb vram 😄

[agile rain]

but stay away from things like high effects and post process

[rose eagle]

haha i guess

i can do that now i think

[agile rain]

And filtering barely uses vram

[sour ivy]

Majic is my t2 better than the amd stock

[rose eagle]

should be

[steep gust]

2060 won't come out till Probably November

Generally a few months after the big launch you would normally get the low-end cards

and then the TI

Nvidia has skipped a few steps

[sour ivy]

2060 low end?

Lul

[steep gust]

Low end side of the lineup

Compared to the 2080 its gonna be low end

in that generation

[sour ivy]

Yeah obv xd

[steep gust]

This has more pixels than the one on the server I moderate

I feel cheated

[rose eagle]

560ti was amaze for 4 yr

xx60 cards are great

the 50 series is poop though

[steep gust]

1050 is good budget

1050ti is decent for a low end gaming rig

[sour ivy]

I thought the 1050ti was decent

[rose eagle]

well i mean of course they all have their place

[steep gust]

At MSRP the XX50s are decent

[sour ivy]

Can I run bf1 on 4k with a 1050ti

[steep gust]

yes

maybe at 5fps

but it'll run

[sour ivy]

10fps

[bleak yoke]

Should BFV be fine with 8gb of ram

[steep gust]

nah not enough vram

and 8gb of RAM is cutting it thin but yeah

[bleak yoke]

oh ok

cause it said it was ok for the minnimum requirements

other than that I have a i5 7600k and 1070

[sour ivy]

No it will stutter

At least in the alpha

[bleak yoke]

how bad stutter?

[sour ivy]

I was running 60fps with drops into 40s

Really bad drops

Then I got another stick and it was fine

[bleak yoke]

yeah but you have different specs

[sour ivy]

Yeah I have better specs

[bleak yoke]

what

[sour ivy]

Well CPU wise

[bleak yoke]

like what

[sour ivy]

2600x

[bleak yoke]

ryzen

?

[sour ivy]

Yes

And I added another stick it ran consistent

So I'd get at least an extra 4

Ik it's super expensive now but

[bleak yoke]

oh

I mean doesnt ram just determine the speed of loading screens?

Ram isnt rly that big of an issue cause it can always be changed so it isnt that big of a deal

[steep gust]

no

[sour ivy]

No lol

What

[steep gust]

and you want 2 or 4 sticks

2 is best bet for dual channel

[sour ivy]

Yeah ik it's more efficient

[steep gust]

4 is still usable with dual channel its just extra work on memory controller

[sour ivy]

But I'm recommending st least 12

[steep gust]

dual channel isn't more efficient

[sour ivy]

From my experience

[steep gust]

its more performance

you want 2 or 4 sticks of RAM with a dual channel CPU

[sour ivy]

Right but I'm saying get at least another stick

[steep gust]

1 or 3 and you are losing out on ez performance gains

[sour ivy]

Because it's still more ram

[steep gust]

Stick to 8gb until you can get 16gb

just watch your usage and turn down settings

[sour ivy]

I'm gonna get another 4gbstick

[steep gust]

You do you

[sour ivy]

Then I'll have 4x4

[steep gust]

That is smart

You know dual channel and the sorts

[sour ivy]

But he needs at least 4 more for a stable performance

But no ram isnt just loading times xd

Tbh I need entirely new ram

Because the ram I have is 2133

So eventually I'll just get 16gb of 3000mhz

[steep gust]

I have 3000mhz C16 2x8

but like samsung bdie

so I could overclock it easily

I think it got up to 3300mhz or so when I was fucking around with reference clock

[sour ivy]

Lol nice

[prime jasper]

https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/geforce/geforce-rtx-turing/2080-ti/gallery/geforce-rtx-2080-ti-gallery-c-641-u.jpg

Boys

You'll need two VGA connectors

xD

Nice meme :P

It's not a meme it's life 😦

[steep gust]

dual 8 pin is better than some board partner's 1080s

at least the founder design isn't a fucking blower than can barely keep up

[prime jasper]

I think that's the real news with these cards

[rose eagle]

Somewhere said 2070 was $400 MSRP

Founders usually run higher?

[steep gust]

ye

[rose eagle]

if 1080 is 25% or so better than 1070 and 2070 is supposed to be 30% better over 1070, 2070 should > 1080

if it's $400 msrp that would be $

though.. still insanely high for the mid card

[boreal coral]

who else is gonna wait for the amd equivelant thatll do just as good for like $400 less

[white wind]

I had to save this

[steep gust]

@boreal coral You realize that Vega 64 was onpar with the 1080 (depending on what benchmark you look at) and cost more at launch + came out a year later

AMD's GPUs can not compete in the high-end sector

@rose eagle I mean, it should beat out the 1080 especially after driver updates, etc.

[prime oak]

There is no need to really buy thiy graphicscard. Stick to a 1060 6gb and your set for about 2 years

[unreal locust]

yeah, WTH

besides even the RTX 2070 would be more expensive then 500 bucks gaurenteed till about 2 years later

2020 is the ultimate year

wait till then,

Windows 10 100% windows users under DirectX 12 API

they will launch something big for that

this is another tock

instead of a tick

[quartz whale]

from the looks of the specs

the 2080 isnt gonna beat the 1080ti

[rose eagle]

lolz

what you basin that off of, core clock? 😛

[quartz whale]

No