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rose eagle
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Nh15 seems like Overkill

prime jasper
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212 is garbo thesedays

rose eagle
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I think the bearings are going out on the fan

prime jasper
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cryorig h7 beats it and costs about the same

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d14 is also still really good

rose eagle
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That's the only problem is the fan stopped

prime jasper
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I have a d15 on my rig

rose eagle
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I bet I could get some mhz out of the ole 3770 with a good cooler

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If she's not going to die on me

prime jasper
rose eagle
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D15 is $90

prime jasper
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D14 is like $50

rose eagle
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212 is $30

prime jasper
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an h7 is around $30 and does way better

rose eagle
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If you're not oc what's the point?

prime jasper
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212 hasnt been good in 5+ years

rose eagle
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I saw the 8700 won't oc on air

agile rain
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@prime jasper Gay happy

prime jasper
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8700 wont OC at all

rose eagle
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Then there's no point really getting a good cooler

prime jasper
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not a K model hence no overclock

rose eagle
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If I don't want to OC my 3770

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May as well just get something cheap

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8770K

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8700K

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Same comment

prime jasper
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this is actually a bomb ass cooler

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this right here though is the budget king

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mugen 5

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best to future proof yourself with a cooler

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also, you can totally over clokc an 8700k with an air cooler without LM on the die

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just not to 5.0

rose eagle
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92mm seems like it might be loud

prime jasper
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dont know I always have headphones on

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why would you not?

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You get to ignore people and pretend you didnt hear them

rose eagle
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Lol I'm a family man, I have to drop anything I'm doing

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That ship sailed man

prime jasper
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the kid is 5, I'm like 99% positive that he doesnt need you to do everything for him. When I was 5 I was driving to the store to get stuff and doing my families taxes

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when I was 6 I was making $200 a week doing yard work and $400 a week in the winter shoveling snow

rose eagle
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It's the wife sir

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They are much more needy than as a 5 yr old

prime jasper
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Build her a PC then

rose eagle
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I tried to get her to play rocket league on Xbox which lasted 2 weeks

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I need to sell stocks to upgrade my video card

agile rain
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Buy Rocket League keys like I did ;3

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I got an exotic set of rims like last year ๐Ÿ‘€

prime jasper
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get her to play PC

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I know a lot of people who said they hated gaming, but they only played consoles. I got them to play stuff on the PC and two weeks later they bought systems from me

rose eagle
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Your wife playing video games with you isn't the best idea

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It sounds great on paper

prime jasper
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why?

rose eagle
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Imagine rocket league and she sucks but you're forced to play with her whenever she's in the mood to

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Or you want to play WoW and she expects you to help when she gets on and is 10 levels behind

prime jasper
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See I'm perfectly fine with that

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I get to teach her how to play

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it's a romantic activity

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just like building a pc together

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which you should do

rose eagle
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Ain't nobody got no money for that! She's rejected gaming she's a mom ;)

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I'm not building her a PC to pull her from spending time with our kid lol

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I can't decide if I want to just get a cheap $30 or something more to try to push this 3770

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If it's 85c load on stock and I got an nh15 it probably still won't OC much

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No telling how long I've been running it with a bummed fan killing it

prime jasper
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if its not a k model you cant overclock it

rose eagle
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I only forget to use the K every time I talk

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I'm just talking temp if it'll take it at all

prime jasper
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get that mugen

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that I linked

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it's an incredibly good cooler for the price

rose eagle
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I'm unconvinced my 3770K can't hang

prime jasper
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it comes close to a d15

sour ivy
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why are you getting such an old cpu

prime jasper
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hes not

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thats what he has

sour ivy
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o

rose eagle
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And it's $800+ to upgrade everything

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I also don't want to waste $350 on a 1070 if my CPU will bottleneck it

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No way to know unless I had one and bfv ๐Ÿค”

prime jasper
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you know you can get 1080s brand new for $300 a lot right now

rose eagle
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Yeah that sounds legit ;p

gray cape
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can anyone help me lmao

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my first build

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everything's on

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power to my graphics card and mothr board but

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i can't get video

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i'm rly confused

lofty light
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Did you plug the display cable into the GPU instead of the mobo?

gray cape
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yeah ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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i'm using an hdmi if that makes a difference

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i tried it with a diff pc and it worked tho

lofty light
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Also, has it got power? Is your monitor on the right display setting? Has the GPU got the additional power cables plugged in?

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Another thing I try too is reseating the ram

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Plus trying with one stick then the other

gray cape
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ok i'll try that

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idk if i should try like

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putting the gpu on a different slot

lofty light
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That shouldn't make a difference

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Memory is generally a huge faliure point from my experience

gray cape
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do you think i should like

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try and start it with no ram in

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or like

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one

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IDK IF THATS A DUMB QUESTION

lofty light
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No ram won't work, but yeah try each stick individually

white wind
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I paid $480 for my GTX1070ti

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Man

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I really fucking hate crypto cunts

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Is the HDMI cable plugged into the GPU itself or the motherboard?

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@gray cape

lofty light
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That was the first question I asked ๐Ÿ˜›

white wind
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I remember making that mistake myself a few months ago.. Lul

lofty light
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I've done it too, took me hoursti realise

white wind
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Only took me 15 minutes, because I just called up a shop.. hahaYES

prime jasper
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@white wind thats actually a good price for one

craggy dagger
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need help

wet wharf
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ok, but you need to explain what on what you need help ๐Ÿ˜„

craggy dagger
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If i download a driver without uninstalling the previous one what will happen?

distant zodiac
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nvidia?

craggy dagger
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Yes

distant zodiac
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i download new driver for my card and it delete old version

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sry for bad eng

craggy dagger
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Its k

alpine anvil
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yeah it just replaces it, dont worry @craggy dagger

craggy dagger
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Finaally an answer

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Thanks

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And I be able to roll baxk through control pannel right?

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Back

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Ping me for answer

alpine anvil
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I don't know how to, but I believe so @craggy dagger

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Rolling back a driver should be available in the Nvidia Control Panel or maybe Geforce Experience

craggy dagger
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Its simple

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If i wanna roll back should i not use clean install?

alpine anvil
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Clean install of the driver you mean, right?

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I think so, that'd be the safe option

craggy dagger
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Safe option to clean install or not?

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Hmm

alpine anvil
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I think to clean install would be the safe option

craggy dagger
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Why? It wouldnt let me roll back, if i got it right?

rocky trail
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you can also just remove the old driver yourself using software and then install the new one if you want so much

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if you dont trust Nvidia removing stuff

craggy dagger
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I dont rly want new driver i just wanna play bfv

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And in order to do that u need to get a new driver

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Do you have an answer to my question up here?

craggy dagger
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btw how can I know the driver im looking for is the one for my system

mortal skiff
craggy dagger
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i already updated it thx

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๐Ÿ˜‰

rose eagle
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bhphotovideo has some good sales goin on if you need a new PSU

green wing
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Bois i need some tech help

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When i try chane my video settings i cant Get 144hz

rose eagle
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connection type?

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hdmi, dvi if so what kind of dvi cable, display port?

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monitor

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good talk ๐Ÿ˜„

green wing
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sorry went to the toilet

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my monitor is 144

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useing dp

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and is set up as a 144 hz monitor in my screen settings

graceful night
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Can any one of you turn off the setting called Future Frame Rendering?

crude storm
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@graceful night yeah i did

sour ivy
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@prime jasper Getting lag in the alpha, is it that 8gb of ram is too little? It's hitting around 95 percent ram

prime jasper
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you need at least 12 gb

sour ivy
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Okay

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That'd explain the awful performance?

prime jasper
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yes

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8gb just isnt enough anymore

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16gb is the easiest to deal with as you can dual channel it easier

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quad channel is weird for its latency

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youre using a ryzen right?

sour ivy
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Yeah

prime jasper
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I said this before and I'll say it again, ryzen uses ram to help with it's processing since it uses a different form of speculative execution

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hence why ryzen needs a bare minimum speed of 2933 and requires more ram than intel

sour ivy
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Ok

prime jasper
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Anyone else have a black loading screen?

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I've contacted tech support for the past 8 hours

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And none of them know what the hell they are saying and doing

opal osprey
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I don't think that end support can resolve problems with a alpha build

prime jasper
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Not Alpha

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BF1

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And BF5

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Both infinite black loading screen

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specs?

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Way above the miminum

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then I cant tell you how to fix it

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that wasnt was I asked

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i7 7700 3.6 ghz 16ram 120gb ssd 1tb hdd and 1060 3gb

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I need everything including hardrive speed and windows update number

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just link me a cpuz

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12_1

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DirectX 12

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Idk harddrive speed

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just link me a cpuz validation page

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What?

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I'm suprised the tech team dont know what the issue is when this bug has been around for 3 years

opal osprey
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is hard to know exactly what is your problem remotely

prime jasper
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very

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So what do i do with tis

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download valid date copy the webpage it brings up

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link here

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The text?

opal osprey
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Install it, run and in the pricipal screen, click on validate

prime jasper
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no the website link

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What next

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one second

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update bios, fresh install windows

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you have a ton of issues

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also your ram has leakage issues

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What?

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leakage?

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Is that bad

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not really, just has stability issues

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So i just fresh install windows?

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that takes forever damn

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no

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you also need to update your bios

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How?

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And update what

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ueif bios

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your motherboards interal software

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Okay

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So i restart for tht right

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there

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What do i do with that cap file?

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flash it to the bios

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easiest way is to get a thumb drive

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What??

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and put it on that

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Flash drive?

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Same thing

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regional dialect

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And what do i do with that

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I'm so confused

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Flash it to the BIOS?

sour ivy
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Yo what's memory leakage

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And what causes it

prime jasper
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google radar leakage

sour ivy
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aight

prime jasper
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it sounds worse than what it is

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basically it's just an issue with ram stability

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because windows did something it shouldnt

sour ivy
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ah

prime jasper
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back

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From the BIOS thing

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So now i just fresh install windows

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This better work

odd goblet
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I want to make a better pc but I don't want something that would... perform BFV because I feel like that would cost too much.

sour ivy
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What are your specs

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@odd goblet

odd goblet
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Currently a GT 710, forgot my processor, 4gb of ram.

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I need to find out what I got again, lemme check

sour ivy
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So yeah, you'd need to get a new PC entirely then

prime jasper
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oh gosh

agile rain
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GT 710 ๐Ÿ‘€

odd goblet
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That is what I am saying

sour ivy
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Depends on your budget

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What's your budget

agile rain
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HELLA BREAD

odd goblet
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$800

sour ivy
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errrrr

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@prime jasper

odd goblet
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lol

agile rain
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No dont ask him mad

sour ivy
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Why not

odd goblet
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Actually, I am gonna be getting a few parts from someone else

sour ivy
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Like what parts?

agile rain
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He is autistic like me so bad to ask his advice ๐Ÿ‘€

odd goblet
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A whole new computer at about March

sour ivy
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with what specs

odd goblet
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A hand me down

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GT 710, i5, MSI b150 and 4 gigs of ram

agile rain
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800 sounds like a Ryzen 5 system and maybe gtx 1060

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Well maybe

sour ivy
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For the new one you're getting

odd goblet
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Oh wait I don't know if it was b150... but yeah new one I am getting

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I remember MSI, the new motherboard he is getting is b150m that's where I got that model from but, I need to remember which one he has and it's the same brand because... well loyalty or something like that

sour ivy
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I cant tell you if the new one you're getting can run bfv or not if you dont know the specs

odd goblet
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I didn't say I wanted to run it

sour ivy
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What do you want to run

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What is the PC for

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and if gaming what games

odd goblet
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Middle-end gaming

sour ivy
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Like what games

odd goblet
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Now I don't know thonk

sour ivy
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So nobody can help you...

odd goblet
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Okay... GTA V at least

sour ivy
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Alright well if you can find out what your buddy has to give you let me know

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id be glad to help

odd goblet
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I'll probably just end up getting a better graphics card and processor... when I get it, I would look what compatible parts I can get for what I will get

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And then ask for help

sour ivy
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Ok

prime jasper
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@odd goblet does that budget include monitor or is that just for the tower?

odd goblet
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tower

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I don't exactly care for monitor or... really high end graphics

prime jasper
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Monitors are for lower latency gameplay

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over tvs

odd goblet
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I think I am the only gamer that honestly doesn't care too much about graphics in gaming. Sure, it's nice at first but then it gets eh.

prime jasper
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some monitors are bad for input lag and pixel delay

odd goblet
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I do remember in a gaming club in high school, a TV someone brought had some really bad input lag

prime jasper
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most TVs have bad input lag

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on console it's basically cheating if you use a monitor

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you're a good 100ms ahead of everyone else

odd goblet
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I also have to clean my monitor :v

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Newer TVs have a gaming mode or whatever that reduces it or something, idk

prime jasper
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not enough

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the gaming mode mostly just changes the picture

winged tapir
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just buy an iMac kapp

odd goblet
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HAH

prime jasper
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rephii go back to germany

winged tapir
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i am still here

prime jasper
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Good

agile rain
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Yeah mad

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Stay there ;3

winged tapir
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๐Ÿ˜ 

prime jasper
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can I move in with you?

winged tapir
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sure

odd goblet
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"Just buy an Xbox One X"

agile rain
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@winged tapir I will steal your home, its ok

prime jasper
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no

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pc is better

odd goblet
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Actually, kinda debating it due to much slower load times compared to Xbox One...

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jk

prime jasper
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hmm

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this is tricky

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building the system right and not cutting corners is odd to me

winged tapir
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so @prime jasper when are you moving

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i am waiting

prime jasper
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as soon as we get married

winged tapir
sour ivy
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k love birds

short laurel
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Every time I try to join a game in the alpha, my game crashes. Any solution?

alpine anvil
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Repair install.. is all i can think of ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Lower settings i guess, but im sure that wont help, worth a shot tho

forest jetty
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ive got a shitty hp pavilion with an msi

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if i want to buy one nice thing what should i get that would help

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a graphics card msi thing

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im bad at computers

wraith mica
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HELLO I just got the problem with downloading

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the error shows VC++ runtime

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I uninstalled then reinstalled all the VC++ and try repairing it but still not working

obsidian scarab
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Time to reinstall windows for you I think

wraith mica
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all fixed no worries

sour ivy
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@forest jetty what MSI graphics card

prime jasper
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why everyone saying ew msi

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is it that bad or just a meme

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all i know is that the warranty might not be the best for consumer

sour ivy
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What's the motherboard and current CPU?

lofty light
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Eww msi

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Na, MSI have just made questionable decisions in the past, I'm sure phenalthaline can let you know more

lofty light
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@prime jasper you should be able to run it, although your CPU might cause some lag

prime jasper
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Yea we will see, I hope I can run it

sour ivy
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Your CPU will cause lag

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You'll need to run it on very low

prime jasper
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I plan on doing that anyway

sour ivy
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You might still get some lag spikes

prime jasper
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My guys

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Nvidia announced their Turing architecture

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the Geforce RTX series

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The RTX 2080 is supposed to release on August 30th

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apparently

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@prime jasper The software required for most of their things is massively bloated. I'm talking about you needing 17 control panels for everything @lofty light it's phfftlitapotamoose get it right

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@prime jasper well since it's no longer nda, we were told sep8th

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wot

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I just read on PC Gamer that made a post like an hour ago or something that it's august 30th for RTX 2080, September something for the RTX 2070

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and so on

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Im talking about the 2080

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yeah august 30th

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they told us sep 8th

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like we havent even gotten the shipment in to the shop yet and we need them in at least 9 days prior

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From PC Gamer

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I'm hoping it gets here shortly then

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normallt we get everything in around 18 days before to set things up

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Since we do custom pcb fabrication, we have some repair deals with a few companies

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ah

strong breach
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was planning on upgrading on black friday

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RTX 2070 would be neat

prime jasper
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I wouldnt go with that one instantly before seeing specs

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the 1080 might be the same thing and cheaper

prime jasper
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@sour ivy on lowest details, I had constant 50 fps without lag spike

rose eagle
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and use 1070 or 1080

forest jetty
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@sour ivy literally everything is stock

agile rain
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I like how the 2060 is last

lofty light
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Of course, they want you to give in to impulse and buy a more expensive one before it comes out

agile rain
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Just got a 1060 anyways

lofty light
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Same ๐Ÿ˜•

agile rain
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Its a good card, no be sad

lofty light
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Oh god

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โœ

prime jasper
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Hey idk if this is the right place to ask but i wondered if a i5 3570 cpu in a dedicated streaming pc would be enough for 720p 60 fps? I could get that tower for dirt cheap that's why I'm asking

hasty ruin
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I don't know if I can ask here I'm looking for decent notebook to play game especially BFV and my friend told me "Acer Predator Helios 300(PH315-51 2018 model โ€“ Core i7-8750H, Nvidia GTX 1060, 144 Hz screen)" should be fine so I'm going for it. Still, I want to know if this notebook can play BFV in ultra and streaming in the same time. I'm using 6 years old notebook which is can't even run BFV alpha at 30 framerate in low setting. I'm not good at tech thing so I'm asking you guys here if this is not proper place to ask tell me if it against the rule. Thanks in advance.
PS. sorry for my bad english not my first language. I'm learning.

sour ivy
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@hasty ruin probably not streaming at the same time as playing on ultra but ultra by itself, yes.

hasty ruin
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Thanks โค

sour ivy
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I bet you could probably manage to stream if you played at a little lower settings

rose eagle
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id hold off til beta before making any decisions on a gaming rig

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@hasty ruin what res is the screen? that's an insanely important question when determining if a 1060 will push it

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a 1060 runs pretty close to a 970

honest haven
atomic bramble
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so for some reason when u updated windows it says that my license will expire soon

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i mean its screaming at me how many times it just pops up

hasty ruin
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@rose eagle sorry for late, I don't know, default maybe. Haven't touch advance option any other game but for BFV Alpha with this old PC I go for 1280x720 can't recall. Thanks for info BTW look further for recommend anything on your mind?

atomic bramble
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my 1060 3gb if enoutgh for 60fps 1080p in bf5

rose eagle
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you have a 144hz external monitor?

atomic bramble
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if my cpy didint bottleneck

rose eagle
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man nothing gets 60fps in BFV lol ๐Ÿ˜„

atomic bramble
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RTX 2080 does

rose eagle
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i can only assume we're going to see like 50% gains when we get a newer build

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if not.. x_x

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they need to cut some features

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competitive FPS games should shoot for settings that offer 120fps on a 1070 @ 1440p, my 2 cents, make it so!

hasty ruin
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For real I don't see difference between 60 and 220 fps. But I'm sure higher=better.

rose eagle
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not everyone does, you mentioned 144hz so thats kind of a waste at 60fps ;P

prime jasper
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is my cpu bottlenecking if all 4 cores are at 100% ingame?

rose eagle
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ya think?

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what you got?

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i noticed 100% cpu pegging as well though at some points, but only like 5% of the time

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game just isnt optimized

prime jasper
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GTX 1070, i5 6600k OC @4.4 Ghz 16gb ram is my rig

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but im also getting 100% on all cores in bf1

sour ivy
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That's normal for a 6600k

prime jasper
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would i get a better performance with lets say a ryzen 1600x?

rose eagle
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8600k prob wouldnt have that problem either

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the i5 8600 is quite solid a gaming CPU but costs more than 1600x so not quite a comparison

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8600k > 2600x though probably

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the 12 vs 6 threads probably dont do anything in BF do they?

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help stream or anything else advantageous?

sour ivy
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Yes you would

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Get the 8600k tho

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And a nice liquid cooler

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and overclock that baby to 5ghz ez if you have a good board

rose eagle
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my 3770k is going to survive the holocaust

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wouldnt expect 10% gains from cpu upgrades for gaming..

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depends on game

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but for BF? eh

sour ivy
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more than that

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I'd say the differences are more than what that says

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Esp if you overclock the 8700k

prime jasper
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my board is the msi z170 a pro, i was looking for a solution in order to up my average fps without having to upgrade my gtx 1070 because F crypto mining and the gpu prices

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so i was thinking that maybe upgrading my cpu would be a better choice

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atm depending on the map i get 90-110 frames average on low in bf1 but i have a 144hz monitor so i'd like to go a bit higher if that's at all possible

strong breach
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Hey! @honest haven little late of a reply

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Try disabling your Discord overlay

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That should solve your problem

honest haven
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YEA IT DED xd

hasty ruin
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@rose eagle Can I ask what is that green bar?

prime jasper
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@hasty ruin 1% lows

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@rose eagle the issue with ryzen first gen is that it had memory controller issues so the 1600 has issues OCing to 4.0, while the 2600 isn't as bad. the 8600k however is a crazy good value for an intel cpu, 6 core 6 thread coffee lake that goes on sale for less than $200 a lot. It's a masterpiece

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just keep in mind that what you posted as dx12 not 11, so if and when dx12 becomes easier to use devs might choose to not support older ones as dx12 unlike dx11 requires the developer to code for each processor and gpu that will be used.

white wind
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Got the 2700x.. Kind of wishing I would have gotten an Intel CPU with a higher base clock, but either way, its been fantastic for me, so far LoriaDerp

prime jasper
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its not the baseclock that matters

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it's the single threaded speeds

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and stability

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which is why intel is king

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for multithreaded tasks, amd is king

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@prime jasper so if I wanted to do some hobby streaming in the future with 720p 60fps BFV how much would that impact my in-game performance with the 8600k?

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But my focus is game fps so idk

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I'd suggest going for an 8700k for that

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but you'd lose some frame here and there, not terribly that much

white wind
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I wonder how much 1080p 60fps streaming BF5 would stress my system, haven't really tested streaming on mine that much

prime jasper
#

a lot

#

internet too

white wind
#

I have 120mbps

prime jasper
#

upload or download?

white wind
#

Upload, always 11mbps download, because American ISP

prime jasper
#

yeah you cant stream 1080p@60 then

#

in theory youd be fine, but 6000 bit rate will tank your connection to the server and cause you to experience rubber bands

#

or sync issues

#

Alright thanks. one last question . With the 8700k would my GTX 1070 be enough? Because then again if I got the 8700k but couldn't get the performance due to bad GPU it wouldnt be optimal

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1070 is a good card

white wind
#

It feels like everyone thinks they need a Titan V to not bottleneck higher CPUs

prime jasper
#

i had one for about a week while my 1080ti was on backorder

#

I had no issues with it

#

Okay thank you very much

#

@white wind haha yeah, too many articles read in a day about bottlenecking. Kinda confusing for the average consumer like myself

white wind
#

How much do you think the higher end of current GPUs will drop in value, when the new series is announced, btw?

prime jasper
#

ignore bottleneck articles

#

New series has been announced

white wind
#

I want to sell my GTX1070ti and use the money I get off of it for a higher tier card, when the new ones come out, if the performance boost is worth it, ofc

prime jasper
#

rtx20XX are expected at the end of this month. But they are for ray tracing, so I don't know for much of a boost they'd be

sour ivy
#

but wont the price of the 1000s drop

rose eagle
#

depends what the MSRP is of 11xx

#

but from past experience the prices dont fall a ton.. some vendors may try to dump some and you can score a deal, but for some reason older models retain high prices almost indefinitely

#

and somehow... go up in price eventually

#

970 release price was $330ish so 1070 needs to come down below $300 to be a reasonable purchase

agile rain
#

Put my 960 on sale but have heard nothing so far XD

next light
#

the miners are dead, no one will buy used cards anymore ;D

#

On a more serious note: I still have a 680 rocking in one of my machines. Loud as hell and can't really handle that many games anymore

rose eagle
#

im just looking to play BF:V at 100+ fps medium 1440p

#

requirements to make that happen are majorly pending

white wind
#

I might be selling my 1070ti soon, I've barely used it as well

#

Going to still be hard to sell though, due to all these beta cuck miners fucking it up for everyone else

#

Seeing people in cypto servers with literal mountains of GPUs purchased like a month before mining crashed has me laughing

prime jasper
#

lmao

next light
#

you would be laughing even harder, if you have seen one of those mining farms which got hit with flooding @white wind

steep gust
#

Mining is dead now

#

and 1070 MSRP is like $365 but it won't hit that for a long time

#

and buying used cards is fine

The biggest risk of mining on a GPU is fans dying / getting louders

#

but you can replace those easily enough

#

@prime jasper Fun fact, GPUs are now cheaper (depending on what) than before the mining price spikers

#

You have 1080s going for like $430, when they almost never hit $500 before the price spikes

prime jasper
#

@white wind I buy crypto used cards a lot, I literally just bought 29 1080tis for $340 each complete with liquid blocks. They are absolutely fine and really nothing has been done to them that would screw them over.

mortal skiff
steep gust
#

I wouldn't buy that many 1080tis

#

jesus that is one investment you most likely won't see a large return on

rose eagle
#

@steep gust 1070 is already $365 almost

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Ok $5 off ๐Ÿ˜„

gentle tulip
#

@prime jasper wtf dude are you mining yourself or trying to sell them on with another mining spike? if its the latter then GPU mining wont go up again that high in my opinion.

rose eagle
#

1070 needs to be $300 by Black Friday and then I'll enjoy BFV more assuming it's good

steep gust
#

You should be able to find 1080s for $400 on black friday

sturdy fiber
#

:D

prime jasper
#

Wb 1080 tis

#

@rose eagle EVGA has B-stock 1080s pop up all the time for 300

rose eagle
#

Refurbished?

#

My

prime jasper
#

@gentle tulip I've been mining for over 10 years actually. I have insider knowledge to it that you don't, so your opinion isn't really that important to me. No offense. But no, I own a repair shop that does custom PCB fabrication and super high end PC builds including with custom one off cases

rose eagle
#

Budget is $300 for a stupid video card, I'll never pay more forever ;p

prime jasper
#

@rose eagle no b-stock so damaged boxes

rose eagle
#

Pfff they would just repackage if they were still good!

prime jasper
#

no

#

this is evga

#

have some respect, they are one of the few companies I actually trust with their quality

#

I agree. They have awesome customer service, warranties, and great products.

lofty light
#

EVGA do have good warranties

prime jasper
#

Although never use their Precision XOC software for overclocking

#

lmao

#

EVGA is strong in everything except softwares

lofty light
#

Na, Afterburner all the way

prime jasper
#

but yeah I bought a Supernova G2 (Gold Certified) from them, and it has a 10 year warranty on it ๐Ÿ˜„

lofty light
#

Even their little RGB plugin software for my card broke ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

prime jasper
#

I love working with them, they are always so steamline and honest

#

Asus I like but they are far from streamline

#

My shop does not have MSI or zotac products

lofty light
#

How about ASRock? harmfulKAPPA

prime jasper
#

MSI has some good PCBs but I refuse to work with them

#

We have taichi boards, thats all

rose eagle
#

The current b stock in their website is more expensive than bhphoto

#

It does say refurbished is a possibility

prime jasper
#

you can also try r/hardwareswap

#

I don't have anything off hand I can sell thats not already flagged for someone else

steep gust
#

Insider knowledge of a market controlled by idiots buying in OMEGALUL

#

how to talk bullshit:

Insider knowledge on decentralized currencies that only have value due to demand for them to have value, that have been falling in said value for months now with no gains in sight

prime jasper
#

Thats because those who control it dont want it to have mainstream appeal, because when it does that means it's way harder to hide money

#

If you think crypto is anything other than a way to either hide large sums of assets or to buy illegal things with an untraceable currency, then I'm sorry but you're an idiot

#

it'll spike up when they are trying to launder cash again. Last one was because of one group deciding to fully cash out so they forced a massive spike, not because of popularity, which that intern cause a massive spike in popularity because people thought it was free and easy money

prime jasper
#

I just looked up some cpu benchmarks streaming & gaming. Most of the show that the 2700x loses less fps than the 8700k. Is that true ?

gentle tulip
#

@prime jasper no offense taken, hope it works out for you.๐Ÿ‘

white wind
#

2700x is better for multi-tasking from what I understand

#

Tag the tech god for any questions though

#

@prime jasper

floral pilot
#

my time for discord is one hour behind, and when i put on set time automatically in windows settings its one hour behind. how do i fix this?

north crow
#

make sure the timezone is also set correctly

floral pilot
#

imma double check

#

i found the problem. it was dumb. i didnt but adjust for daylight saving on... im so dumb hahaha

north crow
#

๐Ÿ˜„ glad you solved it

floral pilot
#

thanks for the help!

undone terrace
#

8700k king for gaming

rose eagle
#

or 8600K no streaming

#

seriously.. my 3770K is still holding within 10% @ 1440p, the only huge gains on CPU are at lower res/settings

#

$900 to gut the machine for 10% isn't in the horizon

prime jasper
#

ok thanks for the help

#

I think I'm gonna go for the 8700k once i find a decent deal

undone terrace
#

@prime jasper what resolution do you play at and which graphic card do you have?

#
  • refresh rate
prime jasper
#

1080p, all low, 144hz with a gtx 1070

undone terrace
#

yeah go for intel no doubt with that

#

at 1080p low settings high refresh rate intel rekts ryzen

prime jasper
#

@white wind multi-threaded tasks**

#

intel wrecks ryzen for gaming, period

#

for now though

undone terrace
#

yeah but what would be the point to pay more if he played at 60hz

prime jasper
#

stability and user friendliness

#

ryzen isnt the most stable

#

and AMD has never been all that user friendly

atomic bramble
#

yup

#

r3 1300x and im not a fan

#

i bottleneck in bf5

prime jasper
#

so does everyone else

#

bf5 wasnt well optimized

atomic bramble
#

wasent?

#

or stil

prime jasper
#

my 8700k/1080ti was getting 80 fps

#

but it's an unoptimized alpha

atomic bramble
#

mt gtx 1060 and r3 getting 20fps

prime jasper
#

not a full release

sour ivy
#

how much ram @atomic bramble

#

Because that was my bottleneck for the alpha

atomic bramble
#

128

sour ivy
#

wtf

atomic bramble
#

8*

sour ivy
#

yeah

atomic bramble
#

its not my ram

sour ivy
#

that explains the lag

#

upgrade that

#

8gb is not enough for bfv

atomic bramble
#

check with afterburner

sour ivy
#

its not enough

#

I had 20 fps then I added 4 gb

#

then I had 80

atomic bramble
#

cpu 100% tam 7000mb gpu 40%

sour ivy
#

still the ram

atomic bramble
#

bruh

prime jasper
#

you really go want 16gb for modern systems

atomic bramble
#

its a part

sour ivy
#

pht dont you need more than 8gb for a stable exp

#

on bfv

atomic bramble
#

i paid like 130$ for my ram

sour ivy
#

you got scammed

atomic bramble
#

its 1x8 ddr4 2400mhz

sour ivy
#

LOL

atomic bramble
#

its expensive

prime jasper
#

you got scammed

sour ivy
#

16gb of ddr4 is about 150

atomic bramble
#

i cant order

sour ivy
#

at 3000mz

#

lol you got scammed hard

atomic bramble
#

but in my country everythign is expensive

prime jasper
#

wait, is that un USD or?

atomic bramble
#

wait

#

let actualy check

#

about 200km

sour ivy
#

please say you didnt actually pay that much

atomic bramble
#

thats 90 i guess

#

it was overpriced

sour ivy
#

thats still kinda overpriced but its not aas bad xD

atomic bramble
#

boutgght it a bad moment

#

when crypto was bad

sour ivy
#

its still overpriced rn

prime jasper
#

ram was never affected by crypto

atomic bramble
#

thats the poblem

#

it was and is

#

lol

sour ivy
#

why would ram affect crypto

prime jasper
#

cell phone demand had to do with the price of ram

sour ivy
#

?

atomic bramble
#

watev

prime jasper
#

crypto never affected it, the price of ram got fixed because there are only 3 companies who can fabricate it

#

demand is dropping

#

hence the price is

sour ivy
#

it was so cheap before ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

shouldve bought 16 gb when it was like 90 bucks

prime jasper
#

when I saw it spike up by $10

#

I bought up entire stores of it

#

I invested correctly

sour ivy
#

bastard XD

odd goblet
#

Oh cool, apparently my copy of windows isn't genuine

sour ivy
#

oof

odd goblet
#

And if I try to go online to fix the problem, the page was taken down

sour ivy
#

feelsbadman

#

contact windows support

#

if you're lucky you might get someone who speaks a bit of english

odd goblet
#

I am pretty sure it is genuine, it was just something that came up

sour ivy
#

rip

odd goblet
#

I swear if I gotta use that stupid phone thing...

prime jasper
#

Don't use it on a weekend

sour ivy
#

use the support chat

odd goblet
#

Activation was successful... even though it was the same code I used when installing windows... ok

#

Okay Windows... that was a waste of 30 seconds.

sour ivy
#

lol

prime jasper
#

i remember when i bought 8gb of ddr3 for 55โ‚ฌ

#

now i paid 186โ‚ฌ for 16gb ddr4

agile rain
#

I spent like $200 on 16gb of 2400Mhz DDR4

prime jasper
#

low speed ram is a scam

alpine anvil
#

^

rose eagle
#

gonna see if i can squeeze any more outta my 3770k with a new air cooler, it should last 2 more years if it holds out ;P

#

invest the money into a 1080 if they come down to 400 if nvidia announces anthing this year instead

#

what the fk happened to ram prices?

#

just seems like an overall crap time to upgrade a PC

prime jasper
#

heard stuff will get even more expensive

#

cus of taxes

steep gust
#

Nvidia literally just announced the RTX 2080 yesterday with release dates

#

and I bought 16gb of 3000mhz 16CL DDR4 for like $170 with tax in November, and they have Samsung b-die so I could easily overclock

#

@rose eagle Price fixing is the major cause

I think at one point some factory burnt down or something and cut production, then eventually they went "huh we can charge that much and people still buy"

gentle tulip
#

dat SSD price doe.

#

cheap AF at the moment

steep gust
#

You gain some

You lose some

#

a class action lawsuit was filed about the price fixing

#

but like

#

Samsung, etc. can be like "Production issues" and get away with it rip

gentle tulip
#

ha if it wins fine them millions of dollars.......meh only 1% of revenue.

#

worth the risk every time for big corps

sour ivy
#

Can I run bfv with 2 gt 730 sli? And an 8700k

#

With 2gb of ram

agile rain
#

Yes Kappa

sour ivy
#

Thanks!

steep gust
#

I mean it'll run rip

sour ivy
#

At 4k 60fps?

steep gust
#

uh

#

no

#

maybe at like

#

720p

#

720p is like close enough to 4k right?

untold geode
#

no

#

use smaa

#

use higher res

#

mate

#

is increses gpu use

#

to help fps and cpu

#

i'm not dumb

steep gust
#

You don't want GPU use with 730s

#

SLI is bad

#

and 2gb of VRAM hurts

untold geode
#

get a better pc

prime jasper
#

@steep gust ignore him, he's trying to make a bad joke. He talks about the exact thing once a week

steep gust
#

730 doesn't even support SLI oof

prime jasper
#

As I said, he's a bad troll, just ignore him

steep gust
#

ye I figured

untold geode
#

?

#

i looked at my gpu usage when i switched my resolution from 720p to 1080p

#

it changed from 10% to 50 %

prime jasper
#

sounds about right

sour ivy
#

lmao

crude storm
#

@rose eagle if the rumours are true, then you get a new 2070 for around 400 with the power of an 1080 ๐Ÿ˜„

crude storm
#

interessting thing is, if i read the forums almost everyone got an 1080ti

#

was there a supersale with a 80% off discount?

rigid knoll
#

If I run bf1 fps limited to 200, I'm mostly on the range 100-110fps. But if I limit it to 100fps, it barely stays at 100, but keeps cycling through 97 to 100. Shouldn't it stay solid 100 if I'm above that without limiting the fps? Any ideas what's going on?

prime jasper
#

@crude storm rumors are saying they are just the same thing but with slightly faster vram and ray tracing

rigid knoll
#

It's supposed to be different architecture though

prime jasper
#

Yes, but that could just mean an addition of ray tracing

#

because, rumors are rumors are rumors

#

rumor says the rtx2060 will cost $130 and be 3% more powerful than a 1080ti

#

see, rumor is a rumor

rigid knoll
#

So, you talking about rumours have zero value. Got it

lofty light
#

Rumours have as much value as the source

wet wharf
#

if that rumor is true... JESUS what is this

sour ivy
#

If that's the case I cant wait to see how powerful the 2080 is lmfao

agile rain
#

Wow someone really be trying to buy my GTX 960 for a laughable $50, I'm not even wasting time with a reply

sour ivy
#

I'm gonna sell mine for the same price xd

#

And if this 2060 is really that good I'll sell my 1060

agile rain
#

I think the 960 is worth atleast the price of 1050 but it's whatever. Guess I'll hold onto it and put it in another PC or something

sour ivy
#

Well the 960 is kind of... irrelevant

prime jasper
#

80-90$ i would say

sour ivy
#

Depending on if it's a 2gb or 4

#

And the brand ofc

prime jasper
#

Yea

agile rain
#

2gb EVGA SSC version

prime jasper
#

now i remembered that i bought my gt 740 from some used sale thing for 3โ‚ฌ xD

sour ivy
#

That's a pretty good deal tbh

#

Xd

#

Idk if integrated graphics are better than that but it's still a bargain

steep gust
#

integrated is almost always worst than a dedicated

#

lack of vram hurts

rose eagle
#

does anyone buy a sound card these days?

#

used to be a perf hit or just not feature packed enough

steep gust
#

sound cards aren't worth it unless you really really care

rose eagle
#

i use my damn monitor speakers now that im married with a kid

#

headphones if i want to actually get any good sound

steep gust
#

your motherboard's audio should be fine unless you really care about sound quality and can can afford the hardware for it to make a difference

sour ivy
#

My on board broke so I bought one

prime jasper
#

@rose eagle you use a schiit stack over a sound card, costs the same but you get a way better sound quality

#

Also I have the leaked specs of the 20xx series

steep gust
#

also no one cares

#

leaked

#

You can just wait the like week LUL

prime jasper
#

leaked from nvidia

#

and several board partners

#

the announcement for their specs are tomorrow

steep gust
#

Exactly

#

So wait until tomorrow

#

When its not leaked and possibly wrong

prime jasper
#

or I can just say that the msrp of the 2080ti is $1000

#

as most of us thought

steep gust
#

Remember this generation was suppose to come out in like

February, April, May, June, July, and then gamescon

#

and was suppose to be on volta

#

and 11XX

prime jasper
#

rumors said volta

#

it was never volta

steep gust
#

rumors are exactly that

#

rumors

prime jasper
#

I was just never allowed to say what it was until recently

steep gust
#

we also don't believe you

prime jasper
#

the term volta was never used past "if you talk about next gen, just call them volta"

steep gust
#

uh huh

#

Try again

prime jasper
#

No, you don't believe me as I have yet to show you proof

#

Seriously, this gen was announced to us as turing

#

not volta

steep gust
#

Yes

#

but leaks said volta

#

so leaks aren't always accurate

prime jasper
#

Titan V was volta

#

right

steep gust
#

Yes

#

and some quadros iirc

prime jasper
#

Mine are from accidently product pages from board partners

#

that were put up a day early

#

thats all

steep gust
#

Okay then you should be able to link us a pdf, etc of the entire webpage?

#

I'm sure someone downloaded the page

prime jasper
#

Im trying but it wont allow it

#

well i hope my gtx 1080ti will still be able to run modern games at nice fps for atleast 2years GWsetmyxPeepoCry

sour ivy
#

no way

steep gust
#

It should be fine

prime jasper
#

the fuck hess, why'd you turn off images

sour ivy
#

the 1080ti is terrible

#

Use gyazo

steep gust
#

embed it

prime jasper
#

if the performance is massive in new cards im happy

steep gust
#

Should be

#

Its been a few years

prime jasper
#

Yea

sour ivy
#

im just kidding bud

#

obviously

prime jasper
#

well fuck me

#

nice size

#

god fucking fuck

sour ivy
#

i cant read that xd

prime jasper
#

I hate my life

steep gust
#

300x200?

prime jasper
#

nor can I

#

wait bro

#

i think you should upgrade ur monitor

#

that res is bit outdated

#

I know

#

give me a few let me see if someone grabbed a better screen shot

steep gust
prime jasper
#

its inline with what we were being told about the turing architecture

#

just weird that its technically weaker than a 1080ti

steep gust
#

980ti - 1080 was a large jumpp

#

So I doubt the 1080ti - RTX 2080 is gonna be a downgrae

prime jasper
#

this was technically no jump

steep gust
#

this was technically no stats have been posted by nvidia

prime jasper
#

doesnt mean that we cant extrapolate data from it

#

Memory Interface 352-BIT 256-BIT
Memory Bandwidth 616 GBPs 448 GBPs

#

that falls under everything we know to be true about gddr6

#

NVIDIAยฎ CUDAยฎ Cores 4352 2944

#

that also would probably be right

steep gust
#

And driver updates are always important pepe

prime jasper
#

memory amounts I'd also say were correct as normal gamers don't use more than 11gb

#

Well, some times they are

steep gust
#

Yes but they are pushing for real time ray tracing / 4k gaming

prime jasper
#

you needed to be on the most recent driver update to play the bf5 alpha

#

Well that was known for a while and they keep talking about pushing 4k 144hz and ray tracing

#

nvidia also produced a tv thats 4k 144hz

steep gust
#

There is 4k 144hz monitors

#

The TV might have some funky TV refresh rate

prime jasper
#

its basically a 40inch monitor

#

but nvidia calls it a tv

steep gust
#

Yes that is how TVs work

prime jasper
#

its a marketing name

#

65" 4k 144hz display

#

Big Format Gaming Displays

steep gust
#

oh and Display port can't do 4k 144hz IIRC without some issues

prime jasper
#

dp 1.4 can

#

but the ports arent valid yet

#

or used

#

not to mention finding 1.4 cables is a hassle

#

but generally nothing can do 4k 144hz, the max we have in reality is 4k 120hz

white wind
#

Should I get a VR headset, or one of the new GPUs, first..

prime jasper
#

depends on what card you have now

white wind
#

1070ti

#

Pretty sure I can hold off

#

But new cards so tempting

unreal locust
#

Jesus Christ! games take up alot of space!

#

my steam library is 532 GB

#

Origin games so far its 185 GB

#

like WTF

#

I guess I bought a 6 TB WD Black for a reason

#

lol

#

I am adding another 26 GBs for BF4 Premium Edition

#

the base game for BF1 is 60 GB!

prime jasper
#

Yep

steep gust
#

why would you buy a black

unreal locust
#

@steep gust Performance! for the space you get! yeah!

#

with Optane allowing to cache a secondary drive, its a bonus.

steep gust
#

blacks aren't meant for the usage a generic consumer puts on it

Why do you think they cost so much more than the same amount of space from like Seagate? rip

unreal locust
#

I will not buy Seagate drives

steep gust
#

they don't fail anymore than other companies

unreal locust
#

Westerin Digital and Samsung

#

the only drives I buy

steep gust
#

Samsung doesn't make HDDs

unreal locust
#

WD for HDD

#

Samsung for SSD

steep gust
#

You do that

#

Fanboys never have helped any industry

unreal locust
#

Samsung has the warrenty and explains the TB life times written much better.

#

I have two Samsung Sata SSDs, my dad has two Samsung SSDs.

#

I have a Samsung Monitor, a Samsung 48 inch 720p TV. My dad has a Samsung 50 inch 1080p TV. My Dad has a Samsung cable box. a Samsung 30 inch TV.

#

so yeah call me a Samsung fanboy

#

Oh! my dad has a Samsung 28 inch 4K Monitor as well

#

with heavy use, their products last 10-12 YEARS

#

the basic lifetime of the device before it goes too old to be a standard anymore.

#

Speaking from first hand experience

#

I am also a Nvidia Fanboy

#

a EVGA fanboy

prime jasper
#

@unreal locust WD is no longer making HDDs

#

seagate actually has a lower failure rate than WD these days

#

samsung makes a ton of pannels for most monitor companies fyi

odd goblet
limpid glade
#

Is it worth selling a 1080 Ti now and wait for the new RTX 2080 Ti?

rigid knoll
#

I suppose we'll get some dates, and prices from nvidia tomorrow on their keynote. That might make your decision easier

limpid glade
#

Ok, thanks.

steep gust
#

I would sell it as soon as possible since the used market is gonna be FLOODED

#

Which is good for me pepe

limpid glade
#

Would my motherboard support the new GPU (do you think) ? @steep gust

steep gust
#

Why wouldn't it? Unless you are running something ancient without PCIe 3.0

untold geode
#

oof

#

nerds

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nerds

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i have a 1050 2gb

limpid glade
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oof

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2Gb?

untold geode
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my cpu has 8 gb

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so 10 gb

limpid glade
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Very funny

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You are a great comedian

untold geode
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my pc is olde rthan my grandma's gurdle

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or a toaster

steep gust
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1050 only comes with 2GB of vram normally and you can't use VRAM like DRAM

untold geode
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or i'm just old

limpid glade
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I know we know not much about the new GPUs, however, would my I7-6800K bottleneck the new 2080 Ti? @steep gust

untold geode
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idc

steep gust
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Bottlenecks are not a yes or no question

untold geode
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i just wanna play conquest

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with someone

steep gust
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You pick a CPU for the FPS you want

And a GPU for the graphical settings you want

This also depends on resolution

untold geode
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or some people

steep gust
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at 4k any CPU works fine

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1080p your CPU is gonna limit your max FPS

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generally

limpid glade
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I am running at 2560 x 1080

untold geode
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gpu increases fps

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on some occasions

limpid glade
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GPU always gives you FPS

steep gust
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no

limpid glade
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Without the GPU, you can't play.

steep gust
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Your CPU is what controls your FPS

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since it has to provide the information to said GPU

untold geode
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i just wanna play conquest

steep gust
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Dude we don't care, please stop

untold geode
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when i watch tech videos they're always in hindi

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or indian

limpid glade
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Would you say the I7-6800K is fast enough for the soon to be released 2080s then?

steep gust
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If your CPU isn't being push to its limits, upgrading your GPU might give an FPS boost

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look at your CPU usage in games

untold geode
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finally you make sense

limpid glade
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It is never at 100%

steep gust
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Since I'm assuming you are already maxing game graphics

untold geode
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my gpu is 602% cpu around 70 80

limpid glade
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Yes

untold geode
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*62

steep gust
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So you should see a boost

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Although 2560x1080 is kinda overkill for something built for 4k

limpid glade
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So, Would you say the I7-6800K is fast enough for the soon to be released 2080s then?

steep gust
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

limpid glade
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True

quaint topaz
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Some games are more demanding than others.

untold geode
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i get 60+ on medium by disabling anti aliasing

limpid glade
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But I need it to last

steep gust
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Depends on a lot of variables

limpid glade
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Hey Peter

quaint topaz
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Hi

steep gust
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do you overclock? etc

limpid glade
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No

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No need

steep gust
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Then it should be fine

untold geode
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@quaint topaz wannna conquest?

limpid glade
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Okay

quaint topaz
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I have to finish packing sorry

steep gust
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Overclock if you want to push out more FPS

untold geode
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ok

limpid glade
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I want my PC to last ages

steep gust
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Since 2560x1080 is gonna be limited by CPU instead of GPU

limpid glade
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So I don't want to overclock

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Ok

untold geode
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@limpid glade conquest

steep gust
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You can do a bit with just stock voltage, etc.

As long as you keep it cool and go reasonable, overclocking shouldn't reduce lifespan

limpid glade
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Sorry, I have work to finish. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Okay, thanks Predator

untold geode
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nuu

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you want to finish

limpid glade
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My GPU plays at around 60-70 degrees when not overclocked, but can go to 80 when oc, so I need to have loud fans. Very annoying so I just leave it as it is.

untold geode
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buy a fan

limpid glade
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I have fans

untold geode
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it take sit too 40-50

limpid glade
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Many

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Not always