technology

[quartz canopy]

[prime jasper]

jokes on them I opened a company as my first job

and now I make more than minimum wage

[quartz canopy]

That's awesome

[prime jasper]

not really

I hate my job

[quartz canopy]

Start a company, but hate your job?

[prime jasper]

yes

I want to be a twitch streamer so I have time for gaming instead of being busy for 100 hours a week

same money for no effort

sounds like a great plan

if only I didnt have such a shitty personality

[quartz canopy]

Good luck with Twitch, there's a lot of people that wanna do that 😄

[prime jasper]

I know

I know how to get big on there

its easy

[quartz canopy]

🤔

[prime jasper]

all I have to do is virtue signal

it actually works based off the current metrics

[quartz canopy]

[prime jasper]

Been talking with some streamers about metrics, there is a lot of shady stuff with it

[quartz canopy]

I'm sure there is :P

[ionic jay]

I need helps.

So I'm trying to reinstall Origin but it says that some dll is missing.

Something called Qt5xml.dll

[feral mango]

Try "repair"

[ionic jay]

repair what?

[feral mango]

Right click game in library>Repair

[ionic jay]

No no.

The Origin app itself won't redownload.

[feral mango]

Ah.

Happens with the executable?

Or it doesn't launch?

[ionic jay]

Oh ffs.

I think my Malwarebytes might have been blocking something.

My Origin is working now.

[feral mango]

[ionic jay]

Yeah.

The OriginThinSetup wasn't working.

So when it popped up a download link for OriginSetup, did that and it worked.

It was even saying that my internet wasn't connected ffs.

[silent mural]

how long does this usually take?

[prime jasper]

If I run bf1 on low at 60-80fps Will bf5 work about the same?

maybe? we dont know yet

I'm hoping so. Don't have the money for upgrades

sell your car for gas money

then you can afford upgrades

Lol at this point I need a new mobo so I can get a better power supply for a new cpu

specs?

I run bf1 on low also

its what most people do

the game is a resource hog

I5 3470, 1050, 12gb ram

youd also need new ram

ddr3 is out dated

ram is expensive

The machine came with 4gb and I got 2 4gb from my dad for free which was nice

and that worked?

normally if ram doesnt match it jsut flops

you got lucky

[feral mango]

Wao

How'd you know they had DDR3?

[prime jasper]

3000 series is ddr3

thats how

[feral mango]

Ah

Am sleepy, gotcha

[prime jasper]

the only one I dont remember is intel 5th gen mostly because it was something I completely skipped

[sour ivy]

👌

[prime jasper]

that was broadwell right?

I think broadwell was when they switched to ddr4

Yeah I have the 2gbs on slot 1 and 3 and the 4gbs on 2 and 4

I believe my 3470 is 3.1ghz but it's quite old. My 1050 picks up most of the slack

and the 1050 was dated at its launch too

no offense

Yeah I know. But my power supply is only 300w so I had to get a low power card

you can get a high end 750w for under $100

a lot of the time

I don't think my mobo can handle it

what mobo?

and yes it can

just because you haev a 1200w psu doesnt mean itll be drawing 1200w from the wall and sending it to your system

it draws what it needs

I'm not sure. I'm not extremely tech inclined

I am

I own a repair shop

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03382665

That's the tower I have.

ok

thats kind of a weird thing with prebuilts like that, they have proprietary parts that tend to screw with everything

like some have mobos that only fit their psus

and their psus only fit their mobos

but their cases are for the most part uniformed at atx

Yeah I just need a new machine but I can't afford it atm unfortunately

if you follow my 10 easy steps you can save for one in no time

No I have to move to a new place and pay some legal stuff. I'm not in the position

Step one : Stop paying taxes

Step 2: get a rich boyfriend/girfriend

step 3: use magic to convince them they love you

step 4: divorce them and take half their stuff.

[slate wave]

the other 6?

[prime jasper]

umm

[slate wave]

I never understood that getting a divorce and you get the rights to half of someon's wealth

[prime jasper]

Step 5: marry a second one

STep 6: divorce the second one

[slate wave]

is that like the usual or is it in special cases?

[prime jasper]

Step 7-10: build a pc

I have no clue

Ive never been married

and probably never will be

[feral mango]

Step 1: Get money

Step 2-5: Build a PC

[prime jasper]

^

[feral mango]

Turned out that I had no idea how GSYNC worked and I've been using it wrong all this time

[prime jasper]

oh wow

[north crow]

using it wrong? how?

with regular vsync?

[feral mango]

Thought it would kick in if I capped my framerate a bit above my monitor's refresh rate

[north crow]

ah

seen this? https://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/14/

[feral mango]

Hits head aaaggghhhh.

[north crow]

(I keep gsync enabled for borderless windowed as well though)

[feral mango]

So you ARE supposed to use Gsync with Vsync?

[prime jasper]

I dont buy gsync monitors

[feral mango]

Muh poor aim

[prime jasper]

so I never bothered with figuring it out

[feral mango]

They shipped this unit with the wrong panel

So I get free Gsync

[north crow]

@feral mango vsync only starts applying once you go over the gsync range

when it's enabled in the nvidia control panel

afaik

note that that is not the case with in-game vsync

just the one enabled in nvidia control panel

which is why they tell you to disable in-game vsync

see the first paragraph here: https://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/2/

[feral mango]

Well

Been using that wrong for

Forever

Should be properly set up now

[prime jasper]

that might fix your issues

[slate wave]

no you need to disable vsync if you have gsync

[north crow]

oh, apparently having vsync enabled inside gsync range also allows gsync to compensate for large variance in frametime

@slate wave read the article

they explain their choices

[slate wave]

most of the games will automatically disable them if you have gsync enabled

[north crow]

games don't touch the nvcp setting

https://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/2/

here they have pretty detailed explanations for each combination of settings

and what the results are

[feral mango]

So, Vsync/Gsync on, and limit framerate below refresh rate?

[north crow]

yeah, pretty much

nvcp vsync/gsync on, disable in-game vsync, limit framerate

[feral mango]

Sounds good, thanks 👍

[north crow]

scroll to "Upper & Lower Frametime Variances" in that latest link for their explanation on why to keep vsync enabled as well, even with the framerate limiter

(mostly to @slate wave)

[slate wave]

I was talking more in-game, not the nvdia control settings

[north crow]

ah okay 😄

[slate wave]

and if that was off the point I am sorry

[feral mango]

There are in game Gsync options?

[slate wave]

tbh my 1070 can't really keep up with the 3440x1440 100hz monitor anyway so.... haven't really looked into it really

like BF1 is all on medium just to get around 70

which is just fine, but nags at me ever so slightly

[feral mango]

Mmmmmffffff.

[prime jasper]

I have a 1080ti and it can barely keep up with 2560x1440p

[feral mango]

Yeah, that feels different.

[prime jasper]

hence why I keep it at 1920x1080p

and set everything to low

[slate wave]

really?

[prime jasper]

yeah

[slate wave]

on ultra?

[prime jasper]

No on medium

on low I getframe dips

a lot

but it can stay at like 120ish

[slate wave]

.....that feels like other problems...

[prime jasper]

1440p is just bad

honestly

its poorly optimized

not to mention it makes everything stupidly hard to see

Keep mesh quality on ultra

I dont

[slate wave]

I dunno, 3440x1440 feels very nice

[prime jasper]

I actually left it on low

I tried mesh on ultra

Makes it a lot easier to see enemies

[slate wave]

I got a fairly hefty bump in K/D

[north crow]

1440p doesn't make things stupidly hard to see 🤔

unless you mean on the desktop

[prime jasper]

no in game

[slate wave]

maybe its just because I was so happy about the new monitor

[north crow]

but then it depends on the screen's size

[prime jasper]

it makes the game super tiny

[north crow]

well in-game everything is the same size

1440p or 1080p or 720p

except the UI

[prime jasper]

2560x1440p

[north crow]

resolution doesn't affect how close objects are in-game

[prime jasper]

it made everything super tiny for me

[north crow]

that depends on your FOV and the camera

[slate wave]

there is a UI size slider

[north crow]

but the game world should be exactly the same size

unless you mean UI yeah

that'd be way smaller

[prime jasper]

I can get screen shots

[north crow]

unless you scale it up

sure

[prime jasper]

one second

[slate wave]

I dunno visual wise 3440x1440 is great

[prime jasper]

its gorgeous no doubt

[slate wave]

the competitive advantage thing is...... maybe true?

I'm too bad a player to really make a difference on the "being able to see more at once"

but higher frame rates and better immersion is nice

[prime jasper]

frame rates are actually more of an advantage

than graphics

[slate wave]

yeah but....muh graphics.....

I just can't wait till the 1180 comes out

[prime jasper]

FPS > Quality

[desert bear]

Hi. Can I ask for help here?

[slate wave]

if its stable I can live with sub 60

[north crow]

@desert bear Sure!

[slate wave]

sure thing

[desert bear]

I do not know if I do it well. I wanted to open ports, but he says this: "Port numbers must be greater than zero"

[prime jasper]

whats the screenshot code?

geforce is being stupid

[desert bear]

I try to improve the connection in Battlefield 1.

[prime jasper]

found it

they look the same

weird

maybe its my monitor?

on 1440p it makes thing super small

[feral mango]

Higher framerate stops being an advantage for me past 60

Maybe just super used to it

[prime jasper]

because you get motion sickness?

[feral mango]

Motion sickness, headaches, whatever it's called

[prime jasper]

see that might be a sign of a serious medical problem

[feral mango]

Nay

Just not preferable for me

[prime jasper]

do you get motion sick in cars?

[feral mango]

Not really, no

[desert bear]

Well, is it always necessary to open ports?

[prime jasper]

no

ideally you shouldnt

but some IPSs are terrible

and some routers are worse

so thats why we have port forwarding

[desert bear]

I understand It's time to ask for a change then ... thanks.

[prime jasper]

honestly its jsut normal now

[north crow]

@prime jasper I don't really see how the monitor would make 1440p smaller since the image is more or less the same 🤔

even if you scale the 1080p image up to 1440p, everything's the same size

well, apart from the console in the corner

weird

[prime jasper]

pixel density

I guess you can say it changes the fov way too much

[north crow]

neither of those matter though

since the content is the same size

if anything, it would make it look sharper - but not smaller

[prime jasper]

it changes the size on my screen

[north crow]

the FOV is also unchanged

in your screenshots

[prime jasper]

yeah

[north crow]

so there's some fuckery going on there

[prime jasper]

I should take a picture of my monitor

[north crow]

I'm really interested now actually

take a pic if you can 😛

[prime jasper]

i'll do that now

[north crow]

👌

[prime jasper]

you can tell the boxes are ever so slightly smaller on one

i dont know, I notice it

Looks pretty much the same to me

its not to me

[north crow]

🤔

[prime jasper]

one is smaller

[north crow]

I demand a double blind test

technically the upscaling from 1080p could result in some pixels appearing larger

due to the interpolation

[prime jasper]

that might be it

i can notice small details that tend to bug me

like everything needs to be just right

[north crow]

that difference shouldn't result in something appearing tiny though 👀

[prime jasper]

does to me

You know...

I think I know whats going on

[north crow]

oh?

[prime jasper]

this is one of the times when my ASD is screwing with my head because I'm noticing a change in the pixels

most likely

like the difference is clear as day to me

that is if I ever left my house during the day time

night looks clearer to me

so clear as night?

[feral mango]

Hhmmm.

Still getting mad input lag with those settings.

[north crow]

And you're staying within the gsync range?

hmm

did you try in exclusive fullscreen?

[prime jasper]

gsync can cause input lag

what monitor do you have?

[feral mango]

No idea.

[prime jasper]

cpuz it

[feral mango]

Specs located where?

[prime jasper]

download cpuz

then submit a validation file

itll pop up on a web page

then link that page

[feral mango]

I have CPUZ, but where's that option?

Ah. Never mind.

https://valid.x86.fr/30yaq9

[prime jasper]

oh

well thats why

yeah turn off gsync

youre on a laptop

and the cpu is running a little overly toasty

[rigid knoll]

For idle yeah

[prime jasper]

cpuz doesnt grab a temp from idle

it does a quick burst

that causes 100% load

then grabs that temp

[rigid knoll]

Well for that it's not bad

[prime jasper]

in reality, yes

[feral mango]

Wish I could get those temps in reality lol.

[prime jasper]

but keep in mind its an under volted under clocked cpu

so 63 is a little high for someone under volted on a laptop

[feral mango]

What'll turning off Gsync fix?

[rigid knoll]

Your input lag, maybe

[prime jasper]

gsync can cause massive input lag issues

and also can use a ton of extra system resources

[feral mango]

Do I get rid of the framerate limiter as well?

[prime jasper]

you can keep the one in game

system settings? well just keep the hertz at 60

[feral mango]

Using inspector to limit frames

[prime jasper]

in the display options

honestly i dont know if that hurts you or not

honestly I'd try without it

and just limit it by making sure the display is capped at 60

[feral mango]

Mmmm.... no change.

[north crow]

gsync can cause input lag yeah, but it shouldn't be a lot at all

oops

old messages

oh also, gsync on laptops is actually freesync afaik

so the blurbusters info may not apply

[feral mango]

Freesync's AMD's stuff, right?

[prime jasper]

Freesync is an open source system created by AMD

So technically

Freesync 2.0 is not open-source.

[north crow]

(just some info on laptops supporting gsync without a gsync module - which just makes it a branded adaptive sync)

[feral mango]

So, leave Gsync on, or turn both on, or turn both off?.....

What would be preferable?

[north crow]

if gsync on causes too much input lag, keep it off I suppose

[feral mango]

Feels the same on and off

[prime jasper]

I'm checking to see if we have an smt on the panel

I don't think we do

[feral mango]

Just turned both off. I don't care about screen tearing no more.

Tis a gameplay feature.

[prime jasper]

More features is more better

[ionic jay]

Its it worth redownloading BF1?

[quartz canopy]

Yes

[prime jasper]

Maybe

[ionic jay]

Also I deleted my origin cache when I was downloading my origin app

[quartz canopy]

👀

[ionic jay]

It won’t delete my progress will it?

[prime jasper]

Multi-player data is saved server side

[ionic jay]

Ok

[graceful sedge]

so for asking noob questions.. are there any graphic settings i should def turn off for better gameplay? do i need to return to the deploy map everytime i die or is there some kind of instant deploy button?

whoops wrong chat sry

[narrow flame]

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834850068

[prime jasper]

laptop

@graceful sedge this aint cod lol

[sour ivy]

Yes it is

[sterile wedge]

Hey

anyone on

[feral mango]

Wat

The only thing you can play on laptops is CoD?

[prime jasper]

@feral mango hey, sorry for the weird question but

Are you online almost all day? 🤔

[feral mango]

On Discord?

[prime jasper]

Yeah

[feral mango]

Uh

Sure

I guess

I'm a pretty active guy

In every way except physical

[prime jasper]

lmao

Gotta admit I'm almost the same

Except when I have school and so

[wet wharf]

guys, can you help me with something?
Should I buy a GTX1080 (Nvidea version) for 600€ or 630€ for a GTX1080 (from MSI)
I mean what is the diference? I dont want litghs

just want performace

Thanks in advace 😄

[north crow]

MSI/other third party definitely

[prime jasper]

you should give me something im poor 😦

buy some ram

and i do agree msi/third party is better

if you want good gpu

[north crow]

the cooler in the nvidia ones (founders edition) isn't great

and the third party ones usually have at least some factory oc as well

[prime jasper]

go for 1180 when it comes out since you are rich boy

although benchmarks will be similar

i think

[north crow]

benchmarks will be similar? between the 1180 and 1080?

[prime jasper]

idk

hopefully not

[north crow]

I doubt it, it would be unprecedented

nvidia has always had decent performance gains each gen

[prime jasper]

tru

[north crow]

for instance, 1070 is more or less the same as 980 Ti

[prime jasper]

performance wise?

[north crow]

yeah

but Pascal was a big leap even for nvidia afaik

[wet wharf]

I m upgrades a 960 to a 1080 (i hope)

[north crow]

960 to 1080 is a huge upgrade 👌

[wet wharf]

also processador and 16gb

[prime jasper]

i have 1050ti 8gb ram i5 7400 still get 40 fps

yeet

[wet wharf]

my PC is old

sad

[north crow]

1050 ti is about the same as 960 I think?

[wet wharf]

I will buy a "new PC" just my SSD and box

yeah ins some forums they said that

[prime jasper]

is it worth buying more ram and new processor for better performance?

even though bfv will be lighter than bf1

[wet wharf]

my processor is really old, soo my motherboard is really old xD

I need to buy "everything" to upgrade 1 part

[prime jasper]

buy new pc no problem

[wet wharf]

yup

I will just reuse SSD (1 year old) and my "box"

SSD was one of best upgrades that I did in my life

xD

(for a old PC at least)

thans @prime jasper and @north crow for the help 😄

*thanks

[prime jasper]

no problem give me your old pc i need money 😢

[prime jasper]

@wet wharf I can tell you the major differences between multiple cards if you link me

not all 1080s are made equal

its not me who needs a new graphics card

coolers are just a small factor

hit mosquito up

whoops my bad

its ok mate 😄

he needs help more than i do

my pc is potato anyway

So is mine

Im not running a volta and an i9

everything less is a potato

you have i9?

No

I have an 8700k

i5 7400

I wish I had an i9

saved up for four years to get potato

I bought mine on a whim

hell there is whole area in australia to describe my financial situation

granted it took a few months

its called australia isnt it?

broke in australia

isnt all of australia? like why else would someone live there?

they have spiders the size of skyscrapers

and those weird thing with two legs

[feral mango]

Dinosaurs?

[prime jasper]

no humans

[feral mango]

Oh hey that's what I am

[sour ivy]

No

[feral mango]

What

[silent tapir]

@feral mango Do 5 bicep curls with dumbbells per every message sent on discord

you'd get pretty damn ripped in no tim,e

[feral mango]

How do I disable mentions, I can't go on like this anymore

I also have no biceps

[silent tapir]

This'll help

[feral mango]

And I sent that message thousands of messages ago, how even

[prime jasper]

question

[north crow]

answer

[prime jasper]

um

any good 16gb ram out there that is cheap?

[turbid verge]

not rly

[prime jasper]

thanks for the optimism

my budget is 200euros max

vvhat do i do

[feral mango]

200 euros max for 16 gigs of RAM?....

You can get some top tier ram for that

[turbid verge]

basically thats how much it costs

[feral mango]

Or do you mean your total budget?

[turbid verge]

160-200€ for ram

or 16gb (2x8gb)

[feral mango]

Yeah. That's about right. You can get some superb DDR4 for that

But 200 euros isn't exactly cheap

[prime jasper]

i see some 16gb ram 2 dimm with 170euros

is that good?

[sour ivy]

What speed

What kind of ram do you need

Ddr4? 3

?

[prime jasper]

ddr4

[feral mango]

Just buy 2 sticks of this or smth.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1528477549&sr=1-3&keywords=ram+16gb

You can buy pretty much anything with 200 quid

[prime jasper]

@prime jasper what processor and motherboard do you use? This is important when it comes to ram selection.

hold up

i5 7400

I'd upgrade that 1050 before I'd get more ram

um

the type is m-atx

chipset is h110

dxdiag wont show me motherboard

[feral mango]

CPU-Z

[prime jasper]

cpu-z is better

dxdiag wont show you anything really

also h110? Thats skylake and your cpu is kaby lake

thats odd

i told my dad to make a custom build

he just wanted to get rid of me

😦

Like it works

but there are issues with skylake boards on a kaby

i mean i will get extra money from grades and birthday for upgrades wtv 😄

mostly voltage regulation issues

I see

well at least it supports ddr4

[feral mango]

Afaik ASUS ships some of their prebuilts with an H110 and a Kaby Lake

[prime jasper]

i mean i might as well sell it and make a custom one

also h110 can only use 2133mhz ram

i can get help from you i guess

so that makes your pick even cheaper

well shit

thats bad

i'll think about selling him

i already have 500 euros

[feral mango]

200 pounds for 16 gigs of ram in a gaming rig is bloated as hell anyway

[prime jasper]

i think i will get 600 from the build

they do summer sales on specs right?

I dont know about sales in europe

I know we get black friday deals on tech in the US

Last year i bought a 60 inch 4k smart TV for $500

[turbid verge]

idk its random

but we get black friday aswell

[prime jasper]

you can get that for 800+ euros here in greece

[sour ivy]

Why do you need 16gb

What's your video card

[prime jasper]

now that i think about it, i am going to try to sell my pc

i bought it for 1000euros

how much do you think i can get out of it

i've been using it for half a year now

[turbid verge]

depends on your specs

[prime jasper]

i5 7400 gtx 1050ti 8gb ddr4 h110 type motherboard

i think i can make a solid 700 euros out of it

120 gb ssd

1tb hard drive

[sour ivy]

Why would you get more ram then

It doesn't make sense

Get a new card

[silent tapir]

Used PC's don't get bought often

[sour ivy]

Yes

[prime jasper]

i'll give it a shot anyway

[sour ivy]

@prime jasper why do you want 16 gb of ram

[prime jasper]

i want to break it

[sour ivy]

?

Wtf u talking about

[prime jasper]

hey, could i get some sorth of benchmarks for ghost recon? my specs are gtx 1080 sli, i7 6700k 16 gigs ram...

[quartz canopy]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/

[prime jasper]

oh... didn't search well, thanks

[prime jasper]

Come at me bro

What the fuck

Vega 64 mining rig

I left it running in the back room and forgot about it until today

[sour ivy]

Ur a God @prime jasper

[prime jasper]

the triggering

[prime jasper]

uhh

kill me pls

[quartz canopy]

[quaint topaz]

give me one of those cards

[prime jasper]

is this like a mining setup?

[rigid knoll]

That minimum requirement to run BFV on ultra

[prime jasper]

No, minimum.

[sour ivy]

@prime jasper can you stop, you're making me cry

[prime jasper]

Want to see the volta rig?

We have 20 voltas hooked up for AI creation

Thats just the base node too

it takes 30 volta for ultra settings for bf5

at 640p

[sour ivy]

I don't see why not @prime jasper

And that's quite a lot XD

[prime jasper]

Then apply to work on bot encoding.

[sour ivy]

no u

[prime jasper]

I cant apply I have a promising career at being a mcdonalds cashier because I got a degree in theology.

[sour ivy]

@prime jasper nice XD

[forest token]

can anyone recommend some good (stutter free) nvidia drivers? windows 7 64bit - gtx 1060

[autumn terrace]

Is it common to have a 980ti max out on BF1 on low settings at 1440p?

[prime jasper]

I need good headset...

[autumn terrace]

Steelseries Arctis 7

[prime jasper]

For Xbox One S

[lofty light]

I'll suggest what I suggest to everyone that asks, look into the Logitech G933 (or its wired counterpart)

[prime jasper]

@autumn terrace Yes, my 1080ti comes close to maxing out on it also on low. I hit about 94% usage.

@prime jasper price range? wired or wireless?

Wired 50-60 usd

logitech g230/430, you dont notice much of a difference with an xbox since it doesnt have a dac.

you'll also need an adapter if you dont have one already

[autumn terrace]

@prime jasper that’s crazy. What cpu do you have? What kind of frame rate do you get on low?

[prime jasper]

8700k. I get a stable 144 fps, rarely dips below 120. If I run it on ultra I get maybe 80 fps 100 if Im lucky

[autumn terrace]

Stock speeds and such?

[prime jasper]

No

4.8 on the 8700k

[autumn terrace]

That’s at 1440?

[prime jasper]

yes

the gpu is also overclocked

not terribly high

[autumn terrace]

That’s crazy.

[prime jasper]

boost clock is 1737mhz memory is 11270mhz

[autumn terrace]

You play any other demanding games and get similar frames?

[prime jasper]

Most games I play arent demanding

I strictly bought this system for stable frame rates in battlefield

[fast shale]

hey

what do you guys get as cpu usage

in operations/conq

i have a 7700k at 4.6ghz and i push like 80%-90% usage

kinda nutty

[prime jasper]

Mine is around the same too

[fast shale]

hmm

and my gpu is between 70-99%

not always pegged at 99

its a vega 56 too

on 1440p

[prime jasper]

man you should have sold that in december

they were going for $7000

[fast shale]

oh trust me i know

and nah

more like 1000$~

but i bought it at msrp

and i have freesync

[prime jasper]

I was selling them for 2000-7000

actually

[fast shale]

so im just keeping it

[prime jasper]

ebay prices in janurary were around 7000-10000 during the first week

[fast shale]

i also mined about 1 eth with it

thats nuts

maybe i shouldve sold it

idk

i like the card a lot though

[prime jasper]

bought a 1080ti

[fast shale]

its really impressive

if you get it at a decent price

on par with a 1070ti

almoststock 1080

[prime jasper]

MSRP of the 1070ti is $450 and can OC better

[fast shale]

vega msrp is only 400

at least when i got it

[prime jasper]

64 was $500

[fast shale]

i have 56

[prime jasper]

My shop bought 300 56s, we paid at bulk pricing $370 for each

[fast shale]

holy shit

[prime jasper]

There was no way to sell them for MSRP

[fast shale]

you guys mus thave made so much

ill show you

sec

https://i.gyazo.com/7c28f6c86327f6b9cb9a8d75579e1515.png

it had like a 20$ rebate or something too

[prime jasper]

cough

[fast shale]

HOW

looking back i couldve got the 1080ti after selling the vega but i didnt wanna deal with selling shit

too much hassle

[prime jasper]

cough

wtf

[fast shale]

8700k must run bf1 like a dream

i could see the two extra cores fixing the insane usage

[prime jasper]

not really

it helps with stability at 144 fps

https://gyazo.com/560851378fc25ef966f6db1fdc04cbb9

I'll wait for i9 coffee lake

skylake was..

just a bad idea

[agile rain]

Ill stick with my R5 1600 👀

[prime jasper]

i wanted the r5 1600 I bought to work well

I really did

but

after spending $1000 on ram I gave up

[agile rain]

[fast shale]

1600 is really overrated

[prime jasper]

and then I sold it to a dude and he bought one specific scew of dominator platinum and it worked fine

[agile rain]

Paid like I think around 220 for cpu and mobo at Microcenter via a bundle

[fast shale]

good deal

[prime jasper]

Either way I now have $2400 of ram laying around my place

now

[agile rain]

I paid $200 total just on 2400 mhz 16gb

[fast shale]

thats insane

i paid like

100$

[prime jasper]

That is

[fast shale]

for 16gb

[prime jasper]

WHy 2400?

[fast shale]

ryzen needs 3000

[agile rain]

Because faster ram cost more, idk

[prime jasper]

ryzen has run time issues with less than 2666

Actually

ryzen has stability issues and tends to not beable to run ram at 3000

2933 is normally the max

weird I know

[agile rain]

run times issues, I havent seen many issues, well, after upgrading to 16 because at 8 BF1 stuttered like crazy because it kept hitting the page file on the HDD

[prime jasper]

As long as your happy with it, thats all that matters

[fast shale]

its great processor

tricky to get going tho

[prime jasper]

Im an intel slave

sadly

Cant use ryzen for work

[agile rain]

I had a FX8320 before with a C15 score of like 500 and the 1600 scores like 1100

[prime jasper]

I should run cine on the 56 core system at work

Im curious

[agile rain]

Xeons would only get a high score because of the cores really 👀

[fast shale]

I got a 24000 firestrike score out of my vega 56

once

insanity

[agile rain]

GTX 960 over here 👀

[prime jasper]

yeah but we have ours super overclocked with a phase change fish tank

It requires 4 1600w PSUs to use

You mean saw that intel pulled an intel?

yeah

I expected that

everyone did

its fucking intel

they havent had to deal with a competitor in a long time

[fast shale]

intel just does meme shit

they dont care

they dont need to

[prime jasper]

New sites are stupid

they also said I was a racist because I had a kekistan flag in my store

well the i9 line up was good

it just was scummy

thats all

youre talking about kaby lake-x right?

2k?

We paid $8000 for one of our xeons

7980ex is a great toy

[fast shale]

thats going to take a while

lol

did you see how long vega took to launch

[agile rain]

I just needa look into upgrading from my GTX 960 within this year

[prime jasper]

they cant de vega again also

[agile rain]

I can still play most games at good settings but still

[prime jasper]

because vega required hbm2 for it to even work

and hbm2 would make something the speed of say a 1060 cost the same as a 1080

msrp

like vega 56 AMD was actually losing money on

and 64

I dont support AMD because they sold out gamers for blockchain miners

well it is

[agile rain]

I prefer AMD CPUs atm because cost to performance 👀

[prime jasper]

AMD fyi literally told my store, that they are stopping vega56/64 production for frontier and ask us how many we needed for our mining set up

[agile rain]

Mining 🗡

[prime jasper]

AFter charging us insane premiums for bundles that we couldnt fulfill because we didnt sell a lot of the products it came with

as a "to prevent miners from getting them"

all it did was charge miners more

and cause us to have to sell vegas at $600+ day one

to jus break even

No

[fast shale]

wait so

i was curious about that

charging miners more

[prime jasper]

AI is actually incredibly important

[fast shale]

how did that work?

how did they know who mined

[prime jasper]

they bough the bundles

and never bought the stuff with the coupons

[fast shale]

oh so buying more than 1 gpu

made it obvious

[prime jasper]

yeah

[fast shale]

makes sense

[prime jasper]

We did have a limit to 2 per customer

what about it?

nvidia put one up as well

I think intel did too

everyone did

its E3

[fast shale]

yea i was surprised this game is sponsored or w.e by nvidia

pretty sure the last one was amd

and battlefront 2 as well

games ran better on amd cards too

[prime jasper]

Vega runs fine

its jsut not worth its cost

[fast shale]

hopefully vega runs bf v well

definitely not

impossible to get it at msrp

all year

[prime jasper]

since it runs to toasty you need to considered LC before you OC it

[fast shale]

56 is the best deal

[prime jasper]

56 was the exact same as the 64

[fast shale]

especially if you put the 64 bios

on it

its basically

a stock 1080

for 400$

[prime jasper]

Ehh

[fast shale]

thats what i do

air cooled

and it doesnt go past 70 C

[prime jasper]

they thermal throttled too hard to be a 1080 FE

[fast shale]

yeah its not right on par but its very close

matches a OC 1070ti

[prime jasper]

on paper it was 8% over all

and in reality it was 20% because of thermal throttling

[fast shale]

many many of the testers

didnt know how to underclock

its really annoying

[prime jasper]

many testers also used open air benches

not actual cases

I dont have pricing for that

AMD likes to charge MSRP on us last second

and then charge us more without us knowing

[fast shale]

this is a 64 bios test I did

a while back

64 Bios Scores

Test 1

1537/1662
1150/1200 / 1100 / 50%

F: 24146

F T2: 24164

its a shame its impossible to get this card with better coolers

at a reasonable price

so much potential

[prime jasper]

it was never at a reasonable price

well even now they are still $600

[fast shale]

I think $400 is fair.

[prime jasper]

cyberpowerpc is its own company

[fast shale]

whats not fair is the amount of work you need to do

to get it working great

very anti consumer

[prime jasper]

they also sell amd pcs

they just sell less

because

intel is better

for gaming

AMD is better for multithreaded tasks like video rendering

in some cases

but if youre a serious video editor you'll be using a 7980xe

anyways

because everyone has a ton of them left over

yeah

but a 8700k is cheaper

and roughly the same

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7820X/3937vs3928

taht website actually isnt fake

we do a lot of benchmarking for it

a lot

what you are seeing ar ethe average benchmarks]

so if you test too early on you might get inaccurate data

also which cpus?

vs what?

Well yeah

they didnt work when they came out

ryzen had tons of issues with radar leakages

still does

ok, that can mean a lot

for one have you heard of the silicon lottery?

Because not every chip is equal

also youre running an aliexpress ssd, dont expect anything much

Kingdian is a chinese knockoff brand

its not an actual legit brand

so youre expecting everything to be running perfectly when youre using lower end parts

like a b350 has issues supplying power to OC'd 1600s

because they don't have enough phases to distribute heat well enough

so dont call something fake when you dont have all of the information

[fast shale]

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/9165437

my ssd

[prime jasper]

damn you got a winner on your vega

[fast shale]

yup I got lucky with the card

im just on 56 bios atm too

to keep fan speed a lil lower

[prime jasper]

just undervolt it

on 64

you should be fine

[fast shale]

hmm

yea

i changed voltages a bit

after going to 56 again

just messing with temps and stuff

and just havent gone back

do you need that though

or do you just game

honestly an average ssd is fine for gaming

[prime jasper]

you dont need an m.2 if the system is just for gaming

m.2s bottle neck on games

and dont give you better anything

[fast shale]

you should wait til a sale

for ssd

the ebay sale the other day

was great

~100 for some 500 gb ssds

wouldve got one but they were oos

[agile rain]

1600

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/9165544

Nah

[prime jasper]

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/9165569

sshds never work for this test

[agile rain]

My build isnt nearly as expensive though 👀

[prime jasper]

Devin your build is good enough

iot works

thats all that matters

[agile rain]

Lets see, hmm, the case I have no idea on price, was a prebuilt as first years ago. The CPU + mobo was around 220, then the boot drive is about 60, the other HDD is around 50 probably, then the ram is 200, gtx 960 was bought off a friend for 150, then the power supply was I think 40

So a sub 800 build

Although this thing has been upgraded since first buying it prebuilt so wasnt all at once

[prime jasper]

did you see how much I paid for my build?

mine was sub 1000

prices are different for everyone

[agile rain]

Need to spend money on a 1TB SSD, only thing is Ill have to make an image of my OS so I dont need to reinstall everything again

[prime jasper]

well there is a reason to buy a 1tb ssd m.2

[agile rain]

those are costly, more so than SATA 👀

[prime jasper]

the higher the storage the faster they are

more modules = faster

[agile rain]

Oh, M.2 for same price huh

👀

[prime jasper]

thats not a bad price

[agile rain]

Ill have to look into it for the near future

Trying to save 800 for a gaming capable laptop so I have something to do editing and stuff on the go

[prime jasper]

if the laptop doesnt weight 40 pounds its not a laptop

its a toy

I paid iver 6000 for mine

no

on a laptop

I think it was closer to 10000

but I also bought a toughbook

with a satellite connection.

no my desktop I paid under 1g for

I got a free bequiet dark pro psu from bequiet as a tester

no

its in my pc

[agile rain]

This isnt bad I guess

[prime jasper]

the only thing I paid full price for was my case

[agile rain]

What you think of laptop @prime jasper ?

[prime jasper]

I own a company

it looks good

I dont give out personal information over discord

my company isnt a publically traded company also

that being said we're also about to close down due to the town we are in being a special type of cancer and we'd rather not deal with it anymore

plus the daily lawsuits are starting to take a toll on us in the stress area

not financial because most gets thrown out of court

[agile rain]

Yah I might consider that laptop, sure I will probably be playing most games at like 1080p low-medium to stick to 60fps, but atleast its not too bulky, I mostly just wanna beable to get good editing and stuff on the go

[prime jasper]

when are you looking to buy a laptop?

[agile rain]

End of summer probably, saving little by little whiel at the same time saving for textbooks, my job doesnt pay alot, I make around 200 a week if lucky

[prime jasper]

I'll keep an eye out

[agile rain]

If you see any good deals

Imma probably try to see if I can sell my FX8320 + its mobo and RAM for a little extra cash, it sitting in the box in my closet

[prime jasper]

you probably can

[agile rain]

Ill proably do like 130 or 120, I paid like 140 for the FX and mobo at Microcenter last year

[prime jasper]

thats where r/hardwareswap becomes useful

[agile rain]

I was gonna try craigslist and facebook because it has to be super local

I dont even have a car 👀

[strong breach]

buy a car

you can get them cheaper than PCs

[agile rain]

Cant afford a car, you have to pay for insurance in the US, which costs over 200 for new drivers per month

[strong breach]

🇫

[prime jasper]

I was paying $745 a month

[agile rain]

the hell?

[prime jasper]

no experience with a disability that affects my motor functions

[agile rain]

But come on, no one can afford that bullshit, thats like rent

[prime jasper]

yeah and people cant afford rent

[agile rain]

exact;y

If the company told me that was the montly cost, I would walk out

[prime jasper]

the cheapest I found was $390 a month with a $8000 deposit

[agile rain]

Like I said, I only make maybe 200 a week if I actually get 30 hours, and I only work during summer and winter breaks from college

Lets hope my degree gets me a much better paying job or else life will be hard

[prime jasper]

thats less than minimum wage

like that the fuck

[agile rain]

I am going for Comm. Film studies because I wanna do professional video editing

And I am paid 8/hr btw

A bagger for Kroger

[prime jasper]

200 a week@30 is 6.66

[agile rain]

you didnt factor taxes

[prime jasper]

what are taxes?

[agile rain]

I lose a good bit with taxes and the union cost

[prime jasper]

whats kroger?

[agile rain]

A grocery store

[prime jasper]

oh

ok

that make sense why you cant use loop holes to avoid paying goverment fees

I make enough to open c302 charities to pay my expenses so I dont pay taxes

[agile rain]

Even without taxes, theoretically if I worked 40 hours @ 8, i could still only pull in 320 a month

[prime jasper]

its completely legal to do

Im about to actually take a lower paying job that has no responsibility

SO thatl;l be interesting

[agile rain]

Lower paying

[prime jasper]

yeah

only $16 an hour for the frist three months

after it goes up to $17.50

[agile rain]

I hope I can get work as a video editor

[prime jasper]

thats way lower than what Im used to

but I dont want responsibilities anymore

[agile rain]

But money

[prime jasper]

says someone that hasnt worked 100 hours a week for the past 9 years

[agile rain]

Good money though

I am barely able to afford saving and still have money to enjoy my week

[prime jasper]

Money is nice and all but

I want free time

[agile rain]

As someone who likes to go to events if I can, like I have a big concert event and an anime con back to back weekends next month

[prime jasper]

also Im getting fat just sitting here at a desk all day

[agile rain]

High metabolism over here

120lbs

[prime jasper]

I have one too but Im also getting old

Im middle age

[agile rain]

I know nothing about time spy

[red whale]

guys