battlefield-legacy-titles

[lethal lantern]

Hey guys 🙂

[thin yacht]

sup

[obtuse glade]

Was playing with someone i knew who is a plane main and someone got so salty it was insane

[wheat willow]

oof

[obtuse glade]

he kept sending him messages that he is too dogshit on the ground when i looked at both their stats and he is better on the ground then that guy

[uneven hollow]

[obtuse glade]

he kept saying chairforce

it was hilarious on the receiving end

[wheat willow]

[barren grotto]

is ribeyrolles good weapon?

[opaque cipher]

Ye

[wheat willow]

Yes, especially when the bipod is deployed

[barren grotto]

ok thanks

[prime pine]

Its a good, easy to control weapon

[somber agate]

Be me, playing BF4
Someone on the other team asks if I'm single
Random squad mate says "She's in my squad, fap"
Obi-Wan_So_Uncivilized.jpg

Sometimes one starts to wonder how some guys just stop functioning when playing with women

[wheat willow]

It's like there wasn't a war happening in the first place

[prime pine]

Don't get how people can act this way

[sour stratus]

Humans are weird

[compact oxide]

It's down to how people feel they can get away with a lot more when online

So they do anything they want without nearly as many societal boundaries

Because they are

[cold trail]

@cyan oar Keep the conversation here on the topic of battlefield.

[cyan oar]

im new i just joined though i didnt know that Humans are weird, was about battlefield lol

[solid hinge]

Are servers down
It keeps saying connecting

[tight sluice]

They should have added Singapore as a conquest map in BF4

As huge battle at the changi airport with hangars beside the runways

[prime pine]

When im online i just try to treat everyone as normal as possible

[wheat willow]

I don't even go into game chat unless I hear others speaking which makes me want to co-operate and get to know them better

[somber agate]

Well that was in text chat... don't think I'd be able to stand VC with those 2

[wheat willow]

Sheesh

[fervent mango]

hahas

imagine using chat

haha

:(

[somber agate]

Oh well, not the end of the world

[wheat willow]

Yeah, we are all cooped inside after all

[solid hinge]

Not yet at least. Not till the Sturmtiger rolls up.

[sour stratus]

The sturmtiger isn't op

[prime pine]

Its horrifying

[amber pine]

Sturmtiger? Yeah it's horrifying

[sour stratus]

But not op

[barren grotto]

sturmtiger is good but u need to be like at least 25 meters from ur oponent tank if u wanna kill him

and its annoying that u are turning around all the time cause someone wants to blow up u with dynamite

and its obviously super mega hard to kill speed wheels tank like greyhound

[sour stratus]

I once matched the speed of a greyhound driving in circles with my turning tiger hull

[prime pine]

Its a great heavy siege tank

Everytime it fires you just hope it isn't towards you

[amber pine]

I find that I need supporting players for me to use the tank effectively

[prime pine]

Did you know that the sturmtiger takes the least from its own shell

During al sundans release, in which is was glitches where even allied tank destroyers would spawn infinite sturmtigers

So an entire squad can get their own sturmtiger

DWOOOOOSH
DWOOOOOOOSH
DWOOOOSH
DWOOOOOOSH

[shy badger]

Bods wtf

[barren grotto]

i like trolling planes at al sudan

[sour stratus]

I remember spotting a support player and 2 seconds later a sturmtiger shell flying to him

[shy badger]

You're always in disc

[sour stratus]

The explosion was just

I think I have the clip

[prime pine]

Im always in disc?

What does that mean

I survived a direct sturmtiger hit on 1 health and destroyed the sturmy boy...

[amber pine]

Your disc

[prime pine]

I dont have a bf5 disc

[ivory lantern]

how do you get that weapon skin

[prime pine]

Jäger?

[ivory lantern]

is that how its called?

[prime pine]

Yes, jts in the store

[ivory lantern]

can i buy it with in game currency

[sour stratus]

That hand looks awful

[prime pine]

Its 1500 boins for the same skin on every gun

Look that hand makes me uncomfortable as well but thinking of it, it makes sense

[ivory lantern]

aa nice

thanks

[prime pine]

No worries!

[shy badger]

Im always in disc?
@prime pine Always in the bfv discord

[prime pine]

OH

Well, I have to be here, I have a reason to be!

[shy badger]

Mod tryouts

[prime pine]

I gotta be here

[solid hinge]

Hey

What up

Bitches

[dusk whale]

what is the best gun in the game right now

assault class

stg 44 doesnt feel great anymore

[prime pine]

Try the stg 1-5

[solid hinge]

Mk47 is nice as fuck

[broken gull]

In BF4 are there server with boost XP ?

[tiny bluff]

yea that's all cool alright

but can you kill a tiger with a sherman

bet you can't

[prime pine]

Its possible

[tiny bluff]

the most realistic way of doing that https://youtu.be/N898VvIVvXs

not even worth fighting that lol

[sour stratus]

How many times you have said this

[tiny bluff]

Jk man

it's because when you're in a sherman , you never fight a tiger head on, first instinct is to escape

hahahahahaha

[sour stratus]

My first instinct is flanking

[tiny bluff]

in that video I didn't even think I'd survive escaping

in that open field

so i went right in front of it

yea you could do that if you're in a light tank

[prime pine]

Run and recuperate

[sour stratus]

The Sherman is fast enough

If the tiger is unaware

like me

[prime pine]

The tiger can OHKO a light tank from the front

Which is bs

[sour stratus]

Yeah

I know from experience

[tribal cairn]

I know from experience too. German laugh

[sour stratus]

First time trying the greyhound

I find a tiger

We look eachother

And he kills me

[tiny bluff]

spawn with a tiger in hamada

most boring round you'd ever play

[sour stratus]

If you don't play the objective

[tiny bluff]

i always play light tank in hamada

lol

takes forever to go from flag to flag

[sour stratus]

I play heavies because I am more aggressive

[tiny bluff]

okay

[timid fractal]

Hello

[hoary condor]

Hello

[gray glade]

Hello

man i hate it when squad mates dont understand basic tactics

like just now i played a great game on marita, we're defending on last sectors, I'm using the rooftops on the last sector really shredding ppl

but wherever I go squad mates spawn on me and stay there

like standing up on rooftops the morons

[somber agate]

Well, what were you expecting or blueberries?

Or green beans in this case...

That's when you unsquad

[gray glade]

i was seriously considering that ngl

[gray saffron]

they were just playing the decoy/bait role. you had to pop the heads of the people that were firing upon them 😮

[eager shore]

It's free real estate kills!

[sour stratus]

Talking about kills

Whenever I play tanks

And check the scoreboard I always feel like I have more kills than I remember

[eager shore]

Show off. 😛

It could be Assist Counts as Kill.

[queen canopy]

I had 97 kills somewhere the other night, didn't even realize it

[eager shore]

Like, the splash damage from your main cannon damaged some enemies, then someone else finished them off.

[queen canopy]

New challenge, get 100 kills solely through assists

[sour stratus]

It's not the assist that counts as kill

Like actual kills

Because I barely have assist while tanking

[eager shore]

Could be because there would be multiple players in a single vehicle you destroy. I dunno.

[sour stratus]

Could be

[queen canopy]

Or he just gets a lot of kills?

[sour stratus]

I do

But

I dont remember some of those kills

[gentle swan]

Anyone know what day the weekly map rotation change on BF1 ?

[versed rose]

bf4 comes to xbox game pass tomorrow

there will probably be a surge in players

[tired owl]

Can’t wait to see more level 0s with snipers they shouldn’t have 🙄

[eager shore]

Time for Xbox players to farm Game Pass newbs.

[tired owl]

You know it mate, you know it

[eager shore]

Of course, that also means you'll be getting Game Pass newbs on your team too.

[tired owl]

Oh god

[eager shore]

"Why is our team so shit?!"
Half of your team has rank 0s.
"O" 🙃

[tired owl]

I’ll have to deal with being teamkilled constantly

I’m a hardcore player and it’s gonna be hell...

[eager shore]

Assuming newbies are even brave enough to play Hardcore servers.

DICE is creating our next Battlefield game with never-before-seen scale.
I probably missed the discussion when this statement was announced. We don't want to speculate too hard because that will just give us unrealistic expectation. But maybe we can assume that the next Battlefield game will have more than 64 players in a match?

Because it's hard to imagine "never-before-seen scale" as being exclusive to map size. Bigger maps + 64 players might end up with boring Conquest matches because there would be much less engagements.

[gray saffron]

or it's just buzzwords to make investors happy

or it's just buzzwords to make investors happy

[versed rose]

actually all the battlefields will be on game pass

[brave coral]

it's probably just a vague marketing thing atm

they say it for every game, basically all it means is 'some aspect of the game has been improved' lol

[versed rose]

the only thing I care about is that it is modern

[tired owl]

As long as the sniping is good I’m gonna be happy lol

[versed rose]

Battlefield: revolutionary war

aka battlefield 17 for no good reason at all

or actually 16 with a roman numeral I

[tired owl]

Knowing dice it’ll be Battlefield IX or some crap

[dense bone]

As long as the sniping is good I’m gonna be happy lol
@tired owl what do you think is good sniping?

[tired owl]

Smooth scope in times, a good powerful rifle and a good few attachments. That’s good sniping to me

[dense bone]

i guess what bf title do you think has the best sniping

[tired owl]

BF4 has the best sniping to me at the moment

[solid hinge]

.

[versed phoenix]

it's big update or something?

[dense bone]

server maintenance?

thats not an update

[versed rose]

just bring back attachments

or just remaster bf4

[dense bone]

attachments are fun but usually lead to picking the same for every gun

[versed rose]

im ok with that

at least there will be more variety

[golden ocean]

HARDCORE WHEN

[solid hinge]

Hi

[tired owl]

Ello

[austere breach]

I am playing BF4 but i am on port with pac and irish. And no cinematic scene and i cant jump to sea. some thing wrong?
Mission: get on the boat.

[versed rose]

could I send any of you my bf4 clips? looking for some appreciation or judgment

[pulsar valve]

#streams-and-videos

[idle sandal]

yo

whats the best battlefield rn

which battlefield is the most alive

[dense bone]

most players? i would still assume bfv

bf1 and bf4 are probably not far behind though

im na west and i consistently see at least 10 full conquest servers

[idle sandal]

do you play bf1 ?

[sour stratus]

You searching for players?

[idle sandal]

no

[sour stratus]

[uneven hollow]

DLC maps

[tired owl]

I was waiting for Grav to send his little mesage again

[sour stratus]

Yeah

[uneven hollow]

Because dlc maps on bf1 do be oof

[sour stratus]

Gotta be useful

Giving zeppelin a break

[tired owl]

Gotta help them players lol

[uneven hollow]

!!zeppelin

!!marco

[ruby trail]

Polo

[tired owl]

Lol

[uneven hollow]

Tbh it do be weird if he replied

With a different text like the other times

[dense bone]

do you play bf1 ?
@idle sandal

no i do not

[tired owl]

I do

[idle sandal]

which one ?

[dense bone]

i hardly play an bf lately, if i do its bfv

[idle sandal]

oh ok

[tired owl]

Gimme a Mosin and a Spiked Club and I'll dance all my way to MVP 😂

[sour stratus]

Also

Nvm

[obtuse glade]

Fuck yeah boys B2B ops on BF1

[tired owl]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

Aw man

[dense bone]

need regular or boost to post images

[uneven hollow]

[tired owl]

Oh well 😂

[obtuse glade]

B2B is free peacekeeper kills

I think the Howdah sweeper would be very effective as well

[tired owl]

Hm

[wicked mason]

Bf4 anyone

[tired owl]

Oh no

[dense bone]

!!lfg @wicked mason

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[tired owl]

For once it wasn't Grav

Noice

[wicked mason]

My bad

[dense bone]

no worries

[wicked mason]

I’m new

[dense bone]

well welcome to bfd

[sour stratus]

Hey @tired owl

That's mean

[tired owl]

Sorryyy

Sorry mr Fox

Damnit autocorrect hates me

[wicked mason]

Not a lot of people play bf4 anymore huh

[sour stratus]

I mean

It's a game from 2013

[tired owl]

There's a good chunk o people that do play on Xbox

It's mostly Hardcore servers but

[wicked mason]

Not many ps4?

[tired owl]

Not on PS4 so not a clue

[sour stratus]

Not really

[wicked mason]

Well I also have a Xbox but idk if I’d have to start over or if there’s a way to transfer accounts

[sour stratus]

I mean you can find some servers

[tired owl]

Well I also have a Xbox but idk if I’d have to start over or if there’s a way to transfer accounts
@wicked mason Don't think there is mate

[finite gull]

For a while my friends and I used to call the 38T the “Yeet Tank”

Also am I the only who feels we should be able to turn the 38T in a Hetzer?

[solid hinge]

I need some help guys

[finite gull]

What do you help with?

[sour stratus]

Whatchu want

[solid hinge]

So in battlefield 4 and 5 using a medium range scope zooms in all of your surroundings as well as the scope but is there a way to do it so it’s just the scope zoomed in and not the whole screen?

[finite gull]

No

[solid hinge]

Didn’t think so but thank you anyway bud

[finite gull]

No problem

[brave coral]

kinda hope we might get 3d scopes in the next game

where it just zooms what you see through the scope for lower magnifications

[gray saffron]

Omg its happening

[dense bone]

that always seemed a bit milsim to me

[gray saffron]

!!when is the November update coming!?!

[ruby trail]

Soon™

[gray saffron]

It's not thiz week, but maybe nextt? :0

Zoomable scopes like with scrolling with middle mouse? Sounds good.

[brave coral]

that always seemed a bit milsim to me
idk MW did it and it seems to work fine, i think its a nice effect

[dense bone]

mw does it? i snipe all the time in that game and didnt notice it

[lofty lily]

Hello all, BF1 PC - servers do not show PING but still I cna join them

xD

[brave coral]

yeah pretty sure the lower zoom scopes retain basically the normal zoom level outside of the actual sight

sniper scopes just cover the rest of the screen with an overlay like the x6s in bfv

[plain crypt]

Are there such things as hosted by non dice servers? If so how do I find them?

[sour stratus]

You mean servers?

[dense bone]

pretty sure there arent servers like there were in the bf4 days where there were official and unofficial that you can just search and join

those are RSP right? and thats not a thing anymore

[solid hinge]

You would think after a while people would shoot down heavy bombers

[shy badger]

All servers are hosted by EA/Dice

[solid hinge]

But no people are still getting like 8 kills per bomb run

Also unofficial servers are a bf4 thing

[shy badger]

But there are servers that are "ran" by the community

[solid hinge]

I'm guessing they stopped it because you could boost on them

[shy badger]

(Still hosted by ea/dice tho)

[solid hinge]

So technically not unofficial servers then

[shy badger]

Could be one of the reaso

[solid hinge]

I just really hope that this new game is worth the wait

[shy badger]

But the main one (according to them) is that they wanted a more unified experience

[solid hinge]

Ofc they will say that

Anything to make them look good

[shy badger]

They didn't wany servers to be too out od their control

[solid hinge]

That one is fair

[shy badger]

Yea it makes sense

[solid hinge]

I just can't look at battlefield the same way after 5

It just feels so wrong

[shy badger]

I would personally release rsp tools after the games reached a certain age

[solid hinge]

It took them 2 years to somewhat balance the guns and even now they aren't perfect

[shy badger]

So the community can still support it

[solid hinge]

What are RSP tools

[shy badger]

Well

The option to have RSP in the forst place

[sour stratus]

5 isn't that bad

[solid hinge]

I disagree

But alas

Doesn't feeling like it was made with love

Just for money, it's strange

I mean it's a given considering its the area of battlepasses

[sour stratus]

Launch? Maybe
Now? Not so

[solid hinge]

I mean it really depends

Tanks can still sit on hills and snipe you 59 million miles away

Which people are starting to do in BF1

Or the stg which i would still consider broken - Maybe not as much but still somewhat.

[sour stratus]

The stg44?

[solid hinge]

Yes

[sour stratus]

It's not that op

[solid hinge]

One question

Do you use it?

[sour stratus]

Yes

[solid hinge]

There's your answer

[brave coral]

bfv honestly has better weapon balance than the rest of the franchise lol

it’s never been super bad honestly, other than in 5.2

[tired owl]

The 338-Recon is a better Rifle that the M98B - Change My Mind.

[solid hinge]

DrX I already know your opinion on bf5

And I disagree

[brave coral]

ok?

[sour stratus]

[solid hinge]

Ok what guns do you use DrX?

[brave coral]

like idk what that’s supposed to mean, does that make me inherently wrong or something?

like... all of them lmao

[solid hinge]

What console do you play?

Or pc?

[brave coral]

i’ve got gold dogtags for at least like 20 of them

ps4

[solid hinge]

What's your gamertag?

[dense bone]

i agree, bfv weapon balance has generally been good outside of first ttk change and 5.2

[solid hinge]

From the times I've played I've had generally more issues from certain guns

[dense bone]

im almost willing to bet on certain scenarios

[solid hinge]

It becomes a pattern

[brave coral]

i mean there’s going to be some guns that are more popular than others bc they’re a bit easier to use

[dense bone]

would you consider 2a op?

[sour stratus]

I don't feel like any gun is underpowered or basically a copy paste of another like in 1

[brave coral]

[solid hinge]

@dense bone tbf since the latest updates, I haven't had poignant scenarios of its use, not as bad as others

@sour stratus what guns would you consider underpowered in bf1?

[brave coral]

there are some that are a bit more niche and limited, but most of them you are basically able to do pretty well with as a good player

[dense bone]

@solid hinge so what guns do you think are op?

ive only considered 3-5 guns throughout bfvs lifetime to actually be op

[solid hinge]

well originally definitely: stg, 2a, Ross, type 99 arisaka, m1a1 carbine, Lewis, mg42, most shotgun upgrades

@dense bone

Bf5s shit

Anyway

[dense bone]

ehh, id only say stg was op of that list

[solid hinge]

Now bf1 had the same issue, apart from in bf5 some guns were extremely underwhelming like some of the AR's

[sour stratus]

Bf5 isn't that shit

[dense bone]

2a was always a slower killing shotgun that added 10m to its range

[tired owl]

BF5 is a good game, it's the players than can ruin it

[dense bone]

but that still put it only effective up to 30m

[solid hinge]

I’d like to disagree

[brave coral]

honestly the stg has never really been OP under normal circumstances, it’s just a very manageable and versatile AR

[sour stratus]

Expose why you disagree then

[solid hinge]

I remember on one occasion I starting shooting before someone with an STG in close range (with an SmG) and they won, I didnt miss many shots

[brave coral]

no idea how the ross or the arisaka are supposed to be OP lol

[dense bone]

imo stg is a jack of all kind of gun, but a little TOO good at everything

[solid hinge]

@brave coral if it's too versatile, the. That's OP

[dense bone]

not all smg are short range smgs

[brave coral]

yeah maybe a touch but it’s nothing crazy

[solid hinge]

That's the issue, it doesn't have many negative

[dense bone]

you will easily lose a close up fight with a sten vs stg

[solid hinge]

But logically how does that make sense

[dense bone]

its a game

[solid hinge]

Ok no

[dense bone]

"logically" doesnt apply

[solid hinge]

Hmm I think the new cod would be your thing

[brave coral]

it’s not like the instant ez win gun, it’s like “oh this gun is reasonably competitive at several ranges”

[solid hinge]

Which is fair

[dense bone]

is that a low brow cod insult?

games dont make sense in the first place

100 health and bullet dmg that convernts into a numerical value based on factors is weird to begin with

[brave coral]

that’s not unique to the stg, shot for shot i think every AR will beat a good 75% of the smgs in fairly short ranges

[dense bone]

stg has decent btk/ttk up close

but it will get shredded by smgs that are close range specific

[shy badger]

Stg is underwhelming rn imo

I woudl rather use SARs

[brave coral]

also from a “logical perspective” it makes perfect sense for an assault rifle to kill fast up close

[shy badger]

The onlu range ita better at is short range

[brave coral]

it’s a higher calibre round than an smg

[shy badger]

And I wouldn't use it there either

[brave coral]

yeah stg isn’t underwhelming by any means but it’s not incredible either

[dense bone]

theres a lot of ways to balance, idk why people think theres only 1 way

[echo turtle]

You either give it more damage or turn it into a water gun

[solid hinge]

😂

[gentle swan]

From a new player perspective, I feel like BF1 is more balanced overall tban BFV. I get killed by way more different weapons on Bf1 than BFV

on xbox at least

[solid hinge]

@gentle swan I've been playing since i was about 7

And I agree

*9 (2011)

[gentle swan]

well i played BF1942,vietnam and BF2 on pc back in the days but ive picked up BFV and BF1 2 weeks ago

[queen canopy]

BF1 has a lot of balance issues in my opinion, honestly. Metas are more present on BFV, but there are very few weapons on BFV that are wholly bad, something I cant say the same for in BF1

[solid hinge]

@queen canopy when you use a gun more often in bf1 you realise that guns are great at certain situations

[sour stratus]

There's more underperforming weapons honestly

[solid hinge]

But only some

[sour stratus]

And more copy paste than 5

[echo turtle]

X gun is only good in Y situation

[solid hinge]

Exactly @echo turtle

[echo turtle]

I'd rather not narrow down my choices to 'I gotta go long range' the whole time

[solid hinge]

Like the model A slug, i found out you could outgun infantry snipers if you got adequate enough

[echo turtle]

There's guns that do fine at all ranges once you learn them

[queen canopy]

BF1's gunplay is also fairly RNG based with the way recoil works

[solid hinge]

This guy was like "you're hacking" and I just said no, I've just learn how to this gun in its perfect environment

And the recoil is percentage

You can learn the recoil amounts from info websites

[echo turtle]

Doesn't bf1 have a system where a bullet can fuck off in a completely different direction

[queen canopy]

It does

[sour stratus]

I think it has actually

[solid hinge]

Like up percentage, left and right percentage

[echo turtle]

Hell yeah, rng is the best never hated it

[sour stratus]

But I haven't played in ages

[solid hinge]

That's like the occasional billet

[queen canopy]

There have been plenty of times where I see a bullet fly like a solid inch or two to the side of where my ironsights are

[dense bone]

From a new player perspective, I feel like BF1 is more balanced overall tban BFV. I get killed by way more different weapons on Bf1 than BFV
@gentle swan pretty sure bf1 has a ton of guns that are the same though

[queen canopy]

Like on the buckhorn sights I've seen bullets fly outside of the buckhorns

[echo turtle]

That's still leaves a chance for one of your shots to not go where you want it to

[queen canopy]

BF1 has a bunch of copy paste too yeah

[echo turtle]

On top of that it's RNG

[queen canopy]

All the guns have like 2-3 variants

"variants"

[echo turtle]

So you cannot safely predict when one of your bullets is going to go on vacation

[sour stratus]

One scoped and the other not

"variety"

[gentle swan]

@dense bone yeah, thats my point tho. In bf5 i get killed by the same 2-4 guns all the times. Bf1 even the same guns variant i see a lot more

[echo turtle]

Every game has a meta

[dense bone]

thats kind of a moot point though isnt it?

[queen canopy]

BF1 has a bunch of mainstream meta weapons as well lol

[gentle swan]

why have 30 guns if 4 are used then

[queen canopy]

Its not different

[echo turtle]

Because they perform better than the others

[solid hinge]

@queen canopy that's because there is left and right recoil, which is realistic and it can be manageable eventually when you learnt the recoil percentages

[gentle swan]

delete the other ones then

[queen canopy]

@gentle swan Why have hundreds of variants when maybe 10-15 get used consistently

[sour stratus]

No need to delete

People use them

Not so much

[orchid bobcat]

oh man the boys AT rifle in BF5 tat thing is a monster with hip fire and when u aim down sights and its a one shot

[sour stratus]

But still

[dense bone]

ironically the most used weapons are hardly the best either

[echo turtle]

That would remove the variety also you would be stripping some people of their most used weapon

[queen canopy]

Just because a gun isn't used a ton doesn't mean it isn't a good gun

[dense bone]

and more guns SHOULD be used given pros and cons but most people dont know better

[solid hinge]

@queen canopy mainstream weapons isn't a criticism, also it's not entirely true, there was an entire dlc about prototype guns

[queen canopy]

yeah StG gets used all the time when its really not that special of a weapon

[gentle swan]

dunno maybe i just like bf1 more over bfv

[dense bone]

i hate bf1 mechanics

[solid hinge]

Like a 1/8 all of the guns weren't used in service, BUT where almost put in

Which is a stretch but still they were created around the time of the war

[queen canopy]

@solid hinge I'm not talking about prototype weapons, I'm talking about the amount of weapons/variants in the game that just don't get used ever

[solid hinge]

That's a minor issue

[tiny bluff]

where y'all tank snipers who think they can kill a Tiger with a Sherman

haha

[solid hinge]

Not a big enough one to be unplayable

[orchid bobcat]

One gu n that is good but not used a lot is the FG-42 its a lmg but it has a bayonet

[solid hinge]

Also factory variants are better at handling recoil

But some do have unneeded variants I do agree

[queen canopy]

Its a minor issue on BF1, but when you apply the same thing to BFV, its a major balance issue?

[sour stratus]

Because scoped variants add recoil

[dense bone]

fg42 is a monster, but mag size sucks for large game mods

2-3 kills a mag is pretty rough

[solid hinge]

I remember trying to use the breta against other ar's and it was improbable of me to win, just because of balancing

[echo turtle]

That's why it's on support, they can get ammunition whenever you need/want it

[dense bone]

thats not the concern though

its that you have 20-25 bullets in a mag

not how much you can carry around

breda is high ttk weapon if you can get 1 burst

so high skill floor

[queen canopy]

The Breda is a monster if you learn how to use it. Its a burst weapon, so naturally its going to take getting used to.

[solid hinge]

@dense bone fair enough, but when I started playing it's hard to get good when guns were unbalanced so badly

[echo turtle]

Yes 20 rounds is rough, but that's why the weapon has a learning curve, you benefit a lot more if you can control the recoil it also hits pretty hard

[dense bone]

recoil control is easy really

[solid hinge]

Like try using a alright gun against a high powered unbalance gun early game and you can't learn to use it properly

[dense bone]

its just held back by its range and mag size

[solid hinge]

I mean if you enjoy it play it but alas

[echo turtle]

It's still fine where it's at

[dense bone]

ehh, some guns just need more effort

[solid hinge]

Like if wasn't early early game either it was like a year and a half in

[dense bone]

if you cant take advantage of it and want to be efficient pick something that wroks

[queen canopy]

Effort ≠ Balance

[dense bone]

effort is a way to balance

[queen canopy]

Thats what Im saying

[dense bone]

idk i read "Effort ≠ Balance" as opposite

[solid hinge]

They should be somewhat balanced so you can gut gud

[queen canopy]

I guess I really meant Putting in effort ≠ Bad balance

[solid hinge]

And I always put massive amounts of effort into my games, I'm passionate about the franchise

[dense bone]

this is where the "theres 50 weapons" comes in

theres almost something there for everyone

[solid hinge]

I want to be able to use multiple guns

Like in bf1

[dense bone]

theres the easy to get going weapons (stg) and then theres weapons that take effort but have pay off (fg42)

[queen canopy]

You can. You just have to be able to use more than 3 braincells to learn how each some guns work. Theres a payoff for your effort there.

[echo turtle]

Throw all the variants out the window

[solid hinge]

There shouldn't be easy to get going because people abuse them to holy hell

[dense bone]

they cant abuse easy if you learn the better pay off weapons and then you crush them

[echo turtle]

If they have the mental capacity to do so they'll move onto guns that work better for them

A gun can be easy to use to some while to others it is not

[dense bone]

unless if the easy to use is easy recoil and they are a master at headshotting than yea, youre basically fucked

but not because of the weapon, but because of the users effort

[queen canopy]

The StG is an easy to use weapon, and as such is used fairly often. However, its not exactly stellar either. If people want to do better, then they usually use something different, and usually end up excelling with those weapons, past how they performed with the StG.

[solid hinge]

Which are harder to use? But then someone else has an easier time, I mean i like a challenge, but for the duration I played it just didn't seem fair

[echo turtle]

More effort should give you a better pay off

[dense bone]

easier usually means slower ttk

[solid hinge]

I mean the game is bareable now

[dense bone]

learn a harder weapon and you kill faster

[queen canopy]

Something like the Gewehr 43, or maybe even the M1A1 Carbine

[solid hinge]

But I'm talking like a year ago, when the game was meant to be in its prime

[echo turtle]

But there will always be weapons that are so good and so easy to pick up that other guns might lose their appeal

[dense bone]

i dont really care to talk about a games state in the past, especially a year ago..

[queen canopy]

The M1A1 carbine is fairly mediocre unless you can learn to use the trigger finger, it can be like a 5 shot kill at mid range while being semi-auto. Its the firerate that makes it a really good gun and makes up for the sub-par semi auto damage. Once thats mastered, it can be hard to beat.

I'm sure Nyphon can speak for the Gewehr 1-5 as well, similar sort of thing in a harder-hitting package

[solid hinge]

My point is that when I was playing the game it really felt unbalanced and playing was unenjoyable, meaning I didn't have time to practise because it wasn't fun

[dense bone]

i do consider g1-5 op though

it requires a little extra effort to get huge gains out of it

[solid hinge]

And now I could but eh I can't deal with tanks on hills lol

Tell your bf5 friends to stop bringing it to bf1 😂

[queen canopy]

When did you last play BFV, if I may ask? @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

@queen canopy just after the big large update where they semi fixed stuff, I would say like 3 months ago

Probably sooner

[minor forge]

Hello

[gentle swan]

I played it for a week 2 weeks ago and im good at shooters, my performances were abysmal, different story with bf1

[solid hinge]

Hi sir

@gentle swan because people have became pro with easy to get going guns

[queen canopy]

@gentle swan Thats because BF1 and BFV play completely differently, you're going to have to actually learn one or the other

[gentle swan]

i dont know what it is but bfv just feel off

[queen canopy]

@solid hinge Not really...the gunplay mechanics are completely different between the two games.

[dense bone]

bfv has recoil patterns, bf1 is spread based

[queen canopy]

Two completely different feels

[solid hinge]

????

[gentle swan]

what I mean is BF1 feels more like the old BF games I used to play

[dense bone]

if you shoot in bfv like you do in bf1 youre gonna have a bad time

[solid hinge]

There are literally recoil percentages on the battlefield tracker

[dense bone]

well yea.. bf1 has old mechanics

[gentle swan]

BFV has that COD vibe i didnt like.

[solid hinge]

LOL

[gentle swan]

maybe im too old lol

[solid hinge]

he gets it

[queen canopy]

In BF1, bullets can go anywhere between a given spread radius, while BFV is based on recoil patterns that can be mostly learned

[dense bone]

i dont think you two get it honestly

you just seem to default to "compare to cod for insult"

[solid hinge]

@queen canopy there is left right and up recoil percentages

[gentle swan]

no

[solid hinge]

Its not really an insult to you

Because you didn't make the game

[gentle swan]

thats the feeling i got

[sour stratus]

Ok gentlemen let's calm down

[gentle swan]

why woul i insult you

i dont even know you

[dense bone]

i didnt take it as an insult, that just seems like the vibe

[queen canopy]

@solid hinge Bullets still travel randomly, just tending to skew towards a certain direction. Theres no given pattern, just a general direction.

[solid hinge]

left. Right. Up.

And diagonal

But it's manageable

[queen canopy]

In BFV, a gun will reliably recoil in a very similar pattern every time, similar to CS:GO in a way

Its manageable, but its still RNG based

[solid hinge]

But where's the issue

If you can overcome it

[dense bone]

bfv, learn the gun

bf1, burst

[solid hinge]

I mean nowadays it's playable

[gentle swan]

@dense bone Maybe i just need to spend more time playing BFV

that may be my problem

[dense bone]

the mechanics are pretty modern, its just compared to old bf titles it feels weird

[queen canopy]

For example, the M1928A1 will reliably recoil up and then to the right (i believe) every time when aiming down sights. Meanwhile in BF1, the annihilator sort of just of spits rounds in a direction.

[gentle swan]

yeah

[solid hinge]

What a fun little debate

[gentle swan]

gunplay is stellar in BFV , dont get me wrong. I'm just not used to these new mechanics in a BF game

[solid hinge]

@queen canopy annihilator is great for hipfiring and close environments

[queen canopy]

So is the M1928A1

[dense bone]

favors left

[queen canopy]

I was just using the two as a comparable example since they are effectively the same gun and behave in similar ways

[solid hinge]

I mean my point still stands of people were getting good with easier to use guns so trying to get good with guns that are somewhat on par isn't that easy now

Oh no

[dense bone]

point and stand still is bad form for bfv though

[brave coral]

? that just sounds like “it’s harder to do well straight away in a game that’s been out for 2 years than it was at launch because people have experience”

i might be misreading that idk

[queen canopy]

I mean you wanna talk about people using the same guns consistently, how about the people who have 100SS on the hellriegel and still use it religiously? Theres much of the same in BF1.

[solid hinge]

I never liked the hellriegel bastards.

Ruined the game.

[sour stratus]

Automático

[solid hinge]

Recoil was always insane

[queen canopy]

Hm...its kinda like people religiously using the StG...a mediocre gun with a low skill floor being used consistently because of its ease of use. Where have I heard that before?

[solid hinge]

Also mag size

It wasn't mediocre when I was playing bf5

Like more broken than hellriegel

And that was a few months ago

[queen canopy]

Mediocre doesn't necessarily mean bad. It just means theres definitely better lol

[dense bone]

stg was only broken near launch window

other than that its always been a slightly above average gun at most ranges

[solid hinge]

You're are debating that there were better guns than stg a few months ago?

Like what?

[dense bone]

but definitely doesnt excel at anything

[brave coral]

it’s basically never been the best option for any specific scenario, it just happens to be a decent option for a range of scenarios

[solid hinge]

That's why its better than most

[dense bone]

we arent really debating, we are telling you

but its not...

[solid hinge]

Lol

[dense bone]

any user that picks a gun that is better at X scenario and plays X scenario is going to shit on the stg

[queen canopy]

StG is a jack of all trades, but master of none. Its beaten up close by most SMGs and Shotguns, beaten at range by MMG's, snipers, and SAR's, and even in midrange by some LMG's, MMG's, and even SMGs.

[solid hinge]

But it's not

Remember the sten thing

[dense bone]

stg is for people that run around aimlessly but want a decent chance at killing at every engagement

[solid hinge]

Stg outgunned smg's

[dense bone]

its beaten up close by close/med range smgs

[brave coral]

any assault rifle can outgun the sten up close though

[solid hinge]

That's like super up close

[dense bone]

if youre using an "ar style" smg the stg could be it up close

[solid hinge]

On maps that are very large

[queen canopy]

StG outgunned SMG's? I'm pretty sure an StG would get blown away up close by just about any SMG.

[dense bone]

i can see a sten losing up close

stg has like 3-4 btk up close

but still fairly slow ROF

[queen canopy]

Suomi, Type 2A, Thompson, EMP, MP-40 even would all beat StG

[brave coral]

4

[queen canopy]

yeah 4

[dense bone]

youd have to pick a ranged specific SMG to lose

[queen canopy]

Hell, the grease gun might even beat it at mid range if the user is accurate

[dense bone]

and considering ranged specific if obviously a niche role its gonna be weak at all ranges

[brave coral]

and even then it’s in a completely even situation which literally never happens

[dense bone]

bfv guns are way more nuanced and balanced than a lot of people think

[brave coral]

stg will beat the sten if they’re both in their 4BTK range assuming 100% accuracy and both players start shooting at the exact same moment, since the stg has about 120rpm more than the sten

[solid hinge]

What is the ttk for sten and ttk for sten at midrange?

[dense bone]

which isnt surprising with all the people still claiming 2a is op

[solid hinge]

*close to mid range

[dense bone]

theres another problem you brought up

guns are not only balanced compared to other gun but also considering the class they are on

if you gave the general kill potential of an stg to the medic class that would be oppressive as shit

infinite heals with good general kill potential, oof

[solid hinge]

What is btk?

I don't use abbreviations

Often

[queen canopy]

Bullets To Kill

[solid hinge]

Ahh

[dense bone]

so until around 25m the sten and stg are basically the same

which makes sense to me

though i think sten is easier to control

[solid hinge]

Sten is a midrange smg

[queen canopy]

Still an SMG

[solid hinge]

Yes but 25m

[queen canopy]

Midrange for a rifle and SMG are naturally going to be different

[loud gyro]

I have covid keep your distance...

[dense bone]

yea sten has lower recoil all around

[queen canopy]

We're also assuming perfect accuracy in this case

[echo turtle]

That isn't a problem due to us using a application that doesn't require any physical interaction with eachother

[gentle swan]

put the vibration off, it transmit the virus tho

[queen canopy]

turn off 5G smh

[dense bone]

so sten weaker, but easier to use and its on medic class

[gentle swan]

lmao

[brave coral]

We're also assuming perfect accuracy in this case
100% accuracy, both parties start shooting at exactly the same time, both start at 100 health, no one gets cover, there’s no outside interference etc

[loud gyro]

are you sure? @echo turtle

[echo turtle]

Yes

You should be telling your family and friends rather than randoms on the internet

[solid hinge]

What about with perks?

[brave coral]

stats are an ok thing for getting like a basic idea of stuff but if you base your analysis of anything purely on weapon stats then you’re a fool

[loud gyro]

Oh well youre doomed anyway

[echo turtle]

How so

Because your wasting time?

[loud gyro]

Its passed through my headset to yours

unless you dont have one on...

[dense bone]

@solid hinge https://sym.gg/index.html

check for yourself

[echo turtle]

Because I totally wear headsets

[loud gyro]

you should be in the clear then champ!

[queen canopy]

Perks? Theres really no perks that affect damage and recoil, are there?

[solid hinge]

Ill Gove you credit. The game seems more balanced than it was the last time I played

*give

[dense bone]

there are perks that affect damage and recoil

[brave coral]

damage no (apart from ammo type specs), there are some that affect hrec or vrec

[dense bone]

well.. damage indirectly from ROF increases

[brave coral]

ah also true

[queen canopy]

Oh well yeah specializations are specializations, might as well be using a different weapon.

[brave coral]

but that has the inverse affect of increasing recoil so it’s harder to hit all of your shots sometimes

[dense bone]

iirc its a corelated increase

[queen canopy]

I usually count them as separate weapons anyways

[brave coral]

yeah it’s not really like the actual recoil stat changes, just if you’re firing 100 rounds a minute more then you’re going to get the extra recoil stacking

[dense bone]

per sym.gg i dont think the recoil actually changes

yea what dr said

like how damage doesnt increase, but damage over time does since you are shooting faster

i think theres something about multipliers but i forget

its been forever since ive look up how recoils actually works

[queen canopy]

Thats why I count them as different weapons, for fully specced weapons like the Thompson, you basically have the Drum Mag version, which has slower ROF but less ADS recoil and more ammo, and Stick Mag version, which has faster ROF but more ADS recoil and less ammo. They're basically different weapons entirely.

Ones good from the shoulder, the other from the hip

[dense bone]

hipfire bleh

[solid hinge]

Wait no the damage drop off the sten is fucked

[dense bone]

?

sten has damage dropoff

[solid hinge]

The damage at 50m is 12

[dense bone]

roughly yea

ok, your sentence confused me

[queen canopy]

I mean its an SMG

[dense bone]

i thought you were saying it doesnt have dmg drop off

and every weapon does other than snipers iirc

[brave coral]

most of the snipers have a little bit

[dense bone]

technically snipers do but i dont think they change their btk other than anti material rifles over 100m

[brave coral]

yeah min damage of any bolt action to the body is like 60+ damage

[solid hinge]

I swear the game has changed so much in the past 3 months it's crazy

[queen canopy]

Idk Lee-Enfield doesn't do a ton, does it? I think ive seen 50's from lee enfield

[brave coral]

i believe the only gun in the game that doesn’t have any damage drop is the krag jorgensen? just a straight... 60(?) damage per shot

[solid hinge]

Well props for them caring ig

[brave coral]

literally nothing has changed in the last 3 months lmao

last patch was june

[queen canopy]

@solid hinge Last 3 months have been stagnant lmao, it was around the new year it was changing constantly

From 5.0 to 5.2 to 5.2.2 to 6.2

[solid hinge]

@queen canopy when was the last big update?

[mighty fjord]

The G1-5 is good again

[dense bone]

content update june right?

[queen canopy]

always was

[dense bone]

@mighty fjord ... its always been good!

[queen canopy]

@dense bone Around then

[dense bone]

ive been saying this monthly

[mighty fjord]

Somehow I didn’t realize

[dense bone]

you must not read my messages

[mighty fjord]

By the way. My pc is up at the end of this month!

[solid hinge]

If I remember I gave up a little bit before June

[mighty fjord]

I will get a stream set to build it. All the battlefield boys and girls will be watching

[solid hinge]

Played a bit after but not enough to spot the differences

Hmm

Ill consider redownloading

[brave coral]

there were minimal balance changes in june as far as i remember

[mighty fjord]

What system are you on

[brave coral]

wasn’t anything significant

[dense bone]

yea 6.2 was the last noticeable change

which came out march 2nd

[mighty fjord]

5.0 best patch

[queen canopy]

[dense bone]

i liked 6.2 a lot personally

i thought 5.2 changes were for the right direction, just imbalanced

[brave coral]

5.0, 6.2 and 7.0 probably top 3 major updates lol

[queen canopy]

And also...a bit slow

[solid hinge]

Wait

But are you guys on pc?

[dense bone]

i am

[queen canopy]

Im on Xbox

[dense bone]

oh yea, idk how these balancing talks work for console because of aim assist and shit

[solid hinge]

when I played bf1 on pc and bf1 on ps4 it's completely different

I play mainly ps4

Are there changes in balancing for console?

[brave coral]

statistically speaking the platforms are identical for bfv

[jolly wyvern]

BFv role play

[dense bone]

other than aim assist on i dont think so

[jolly wyvern]

PS4

[solid hinge]

Hmm

[dense bone]

granted, aim assist are basically soft hacks so thats pretty big

[queen canopy]

lemme get that !!lfg Nyphon

[dense bone]

!!lfg @jolly wyvern

[ruby trail]

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[dense bone]

[brave coral]

i think bf1 may have had slightly different stats for some guns between platforms

[solid hinge]

I mean it's different ballparks considering different consoles

[brave coral]

but like recoil stats rather than damage or anything bc that wouldn’t make any sense

[solid hinge]

Unless you are someone who plays keyboard and mouse on ps4

[brave coral]

main difference is going to be that some weapon types are a bit more popular on console/pc

[solid hinge]

I mean a controller works differently than keyboard and mouse

[brave coral]

eg pc i think has a few more semi autos and stuff, console has somewhat more of a leaning towards automatics

due to control schemes

[solid hinge]

Yeah

So it doesn't make sense to compare on different consoles.

[brave coral]

but that’s not really to do with balance so much as just it’s a bit easier to use one style of gun on whichever control scheme

[queen canopy]

Xbox and PS4 are pretty much identical so comparisons there are fine

[brave coral]

the statistics, as i said, are identical

you shoot a guy with whatever gun on pc and a console, it’ll do X damage and kick Y degrees upwards on average

[solid hinge]

You have to take aim assist into account

[dense bone]

soft hacks

[solid hinge]

Ok

[gentle swan]

aim assist sucks imo

[brave coral]

(on average because recoil has a degree of random-ness, but the parameters are identical for each platform)

[solid hinge]

But you still do

[gentle swan]

i removed it

[brave coral]

xbox and ps4 are functionally identical from a game/control sense

[dense bone]

i would never turn off soft hacks on console

[brave coral]

also... i am on ps4 lol

[solid hinge]

True

[brave coral]

i don’t really need to take the differences into account because there aren’t any, we’re on the same system lol

[solid hinge]

..

[tiny bluff]

yea that's all cool alright

but can you fight a tiger with a Sherman?

where are the people I've been arguing with for two days about this 🤣

https://youtu.be/U69qR7VkuLs

kept the entire enemy Tank Division at bay with 1 TIGER

[brave coral]

by which you mean you come into random conversations and say the exact same thing for a bit and annoy everyone involved?

[tiny bluff]

4 US tanks vs 1 TIGER

[echo turtle]

Wasn't there a Sherman that was made just to kill Tigers

[tiny bluff]

history repeats itself

[sour stratus]

You do realize that that's a myth

[echo turtle]

Firefly right?

[tiny bluff]

The modified guns on the tanks were not as close as the 88mm of shermans

*tigers

@brave coral sorry though

but that's not the point

[echo turtle]

Tigers aren't an unstoppable force

[tiny bluff]

that video was supposed to be humorous

[gray glade]

give that support player a medal

[brave coral]

didnt watch it

[tiny bluff]

You know, running away in sherman from a TIGER

[brave coral]

its not an acronym

dont need to capitalise it

[echo turtle]

It's also a video game

[sour stratus]

Tigers aren't that good

coming from a tiger main btw

[tiny bluff]

of course they are somewhat balanced

by reducing the speed at most I'd say

[echo turtle]

If Tigers were good Germany would've had the war somewhat in the bag

[tiny bluff]

hmm do you need some history lesson boy

[gray glade]

Tigers, both in the game and irl were good tanks for what they were designed to do.

[echo turtle]

But they suffered due to steel shortages and oil

[tiny bluff]

tigers were launched a bit too late into the war if you didn't know

[brave coral]

i mean they had a good cannon and strong armour, but they were unreliable, expensive to produce and relatively few were made

[tiny bluff]

I used to spawn all time with TIGER But they are damn slow

[brave coral]

not enough to make any sort of difference

[gray glade]

that doesn't diminish the tank itself though

[sour stratus]

It's a heavy tank what do you expect

[gray glade]

thats a logistical issue

[tiny bluff]

definitely

[sour stratus]

To be a fucking buggati

[gray glade]

if we look at actual combat performance, the tiger was very good, of course it had mechanical issues as well, all tanks did, and especially heavier tanks

[tiny bluff]

I don't care if it's a bugatti or no

[brave coral]

yeah it wasnt a bad tank, but honestly it gets weirdly hyped up by wehraboos

because.. its a tank

[tiny bluff]

but it's annoying that I go from one flag to the next in HAMADA and the round is OVER

[gray glade]

yeah it's a tank, not unbeatable

[tiny bluff]

never spawn with heavy tank in HAMADA

[tall frost]

What’s wrong with that?

[echo turtle]

Hey dude I know we're running low on the resources required to make tanks and planes but what if we made a tank that costs more to produce than a much smaller and cheaper tank

[brave coral]

ok thats just a little bit of an exaggeration i think unless you got out and pushed it

[sour stratus]

I do spawn with a tiger in hamada

And I do good

[tall frost]

Well that’s a tiger

[echo turtle]

If Germany had the resources to spare the Tiger would be a more common source of fear

[tall frost]

It’s pretty good

[tiny bluff]

It is good

[calm musk]

wth happened to battlefield man

[brave coral]

@echo turtle ye but have you considered: internet people who idolise ww2 germany will love it 70 years later? who's the real winner here

[calm musk]

where is the main menu

[sour stratus]

Nothing happened?

[echo turtle]

It's good but they couldn't produce enough of them to make up for their losses at that time

[gray glade]

You need to look at what resources each countries had though. Germany couldn't afford to make as many tanks as soviet union or the allies, not material wise and especially not manpower wise. So they didn't try, they went for quality instead.

[sour stratus]

Because it was the only thing they could do

[gray glade]

Soviet union could afford making thousands and thousands of t34's, so they did and it worked

[tiny bluff]

It barely worked I'd say, a little more logistics support or they take stalingrad earlier it could've been different for the tank division of Germany .

[gray glade]

they had their own issues

[tiny bluff]

as you can see here , Me keeping all 4 US tanks at bay with 1 Tiger , why wouldn't you run away if you're in a sherman

https://youtu.be/U69qR7VkuLs

[echo turtle]

It's also just a video game

[tiny bluff]

[ARRAS] E flag

fatherland Defended

h*** h*******

[brave coral]

germany is actually on the offense in the battle of Arras depicted in bfv

[tiny bluff]

yeap

[gray glade]

irl it was the other way around right?

i forget

[brave coral]

so apart from referring to germany as the fatherland (especially during that period of its history) being pretty sketch, the defense thing isnt even right lol

[tiny bluff]

hahaha

[tall frost]

I hate women in BFV so much

[sour stratus]

I mean

[tall frost]

Every time I think about them my PP gets hard

[tiny bluff]

that is also true to the point that I pushed E flag instead of Defending D

but I defened E Haha

[sour stratus]

Aren't Americans invading wake Island even though it was the other way around

[tall frost]

[brave coral]

yeah seems like it was an allied counterattack against the flank of the german invasion force in 1940

[gray glade]

i reckon they didn't want to spend more time making japanese battleships and landing craft

[brave coral]

yeah basically

they'd have to model some large assets for use on one map basically for a game that isnt a history documentary

[tiny bluff]

that's why people here I kept asking said they can kill a tiger with a sherman, haha. I mean of course you can in the game .

[brave coral]

it was also raided occasionally after it was lost to japan, as well as aerial bombardments with decent frequency

[echo turtle]

They could've just done an Airborne and had the Japanese roll in on American ships

[tiny bluff]

since you're all into ww2 I recommend you watch Europa documentary , on Eastern front . I'd say it's not that much biased (russian) even though I'm not much of a historian.

it's on youtube

[gray glade]

To be honest, I like what DICE did with tanks in this game, at least nowadays that they balanced them a bit

i much preferre how tanks work in this game over BF1/BF4/BF3

[tiny bluff]

oops too bad, I think it gor deleted

I don't like it from Tank vs Tank perspective

[whole gazelle]

what has more players bf3 or bc2?

[gray glade]

probably bf3

[sour stratus]

Yeah 3 is probably more populated

[whole gazelle]

they are free on game pass so i didnt know which to play so i'll get bf3 then

[gray glade]

oh, nice

i couldnt advice ppl to buy it atm but honestly if it's for free check it out

[whole gazelle]

yeah if you have game pass ultimate now you get ea play too so all the battlefield games are free even bf5

[tiny bluff]

I guess the european servers are still populated enough

[whole gazelle]

eu lol na ftw

[tiny bluff]

Sad it's dead in my region

I don't think a game like bf3 is coming back

since bf4 the infantry skillgap has been greatly reduced I think .

[whole gazelle]

i never liked bf4

[tiny bluff]

To give the players a feeling of accomplishment .

like getting score for hitting them before killing them.

[brave coral]

that's honestly a good feature though, provides more feedback and somewhat of a tactical advantage bc you can tell if you hit a collateral body shot, explosves it gives you a sense of how many people there are etc

[tiny bluff]

I guess

but when I get 180 damage from a plane and no kill that feeling oof

with the bomb landing on 5 guys haha

[whole gazelle]

bf3 at 6gb out of 28 oof

[echo turtle]

You can wait another 5 minutes

[tiny bluff]

you can do it fony

we believe in you

or should I issue the order 223

not one step back soldiers

[whole gazelle]

5 minutes i wish lol it says 1hour 45 minutes on my screen

[echo turtle]

Make a super internet cable

[tiny bluff]

Mean time you could watch my video and maybe you could learn a thing or two

[sour stratus]

Pepelaugh

[tiny bluff]

haha

hahaha

[echo turtle]

Requires an ethernet cable and a lot of AAs

[whole gazelle]

me learn a thing or two lol im max level on ps3

[uneven hollow]

Kamikazes

[brave coral]

post it in #streams-and-videos if you want to try and advertise it

[tiny bluff]

it's about BFv tank haha not bf3

[brave coral]

no advertising your content in main channels

[whole gazelle]

bfv ew

[tiny bluff]

does this count as advertise? i guess

[sour stratus]

Bf5 is a good game

[whole gazelle]

only good battlefield games are 1943,bc1/2,bf3 and 4

[brave coral]

if you're telling people to watch your own video then yeah pretty much

[tiny bluff]

but they have a meaning , I mean they were meant to be humerous and involve people from the community .

that's why I'm pretty much doing some conversation about them ....

[shy badger]

only good battlefield games are 1943,bc1/2,bf3 and 4
@whole gazelle No.

Scratch bc2

Add bf vietnam

[brave coral]

youve posted it like three times in the past hour or two, without any relevance to the conversation other than you posting it and trying to spark a conversation about... how good you are i guess?

[whole gazelle]

blackout must like the bad games saying that then

[uneven hollow]

Battlefield heros is where it’s at lads

[shy badger]

Bf vietnam is bad?

Lul

[charred ridge]

Sup

[whole gazelle]

bc2 is bad?

[shy badger]

As a bf game? Yes

[charred ridge]

Battlefield 3 graphics are so good bro

[brave coral]

ah yes i forgot the opinion of one person is objective and must be taken as fact at face value

[whole gazelle]

ok blackout is insane bc2 is the best bf game ever

[shy badger]

Its more cod than bf

[uneven hollow]

Battlefield game is battlefield game lads

[tiny bluff]

Yea because there's always different people active all time

[charred ridge]

guys is m416a3 decent gun?

[shy badger]

Bc2 is the least bf like game out of them all

Small maps

[whole gazelle]

saying that is like saying cargo pants arent pants

[shy badger]

Reduced player counts

[whole gazelle]

ok blackout we get it your fave is hardline and your a bc2 hater we get it

[tiny bluff]

And no I don't need to be any Better if I can Defend a flag against 4 shermans and give my infantry to take all flags .

[uneven hollow]

[shy badger]

Right

[tiny bluff]

that's all the purpose of any conquest

[shy badger]

At least hardline had 64 players ;)

[echo turtle]

Everyone knows halo 2 is the best battlefield game

[brave coral]

ok fony we get it you think you're superior to everyone else, especially if they don't instantly agree with you

[whole gazelle]

idc how many players a video game has lol i play it for the game not the players

[shy badger]

How about scale, one of the thinga bf is known for

[whole gazelle]

64 or 5 im gonna like the game regardless if it plays well

[uneven hollow]

So story mode your talking about

Could’ve said that

[brave coral]

hmm a team game with 5 players in a lobby sounds... interesting

[whole gazelle]

i dont play story mode lol

[uneven hollow]

a

[brave coral]

a

[tiny bluff]

I

[whole gazelle]

story mode lol this anit skyrim

[uneven hollow]

What’s the deal with Skyrim

[tiny bluff]

would never forgive battlefield for not having a competitive scene since bf3

[gray glade]

skyrim ❤️

[shy badger]

I just hate it when people regard bc2 as a goos bf gam3 since it shows they either haven't played many bf games or just don't get what the franchise is about

[echo turtle]

Skyrim is in a different genre

[uneven hollow]

Skyrim and bf has nothing in common

[shy badger]

Bc2 is good on its own sure