battlefield-legacy-titles

[ancient ocean]

I don't get why so many people don't like tanks

[sour stratus]

because people that play them are too scared to die

[brave coral]

yeah as a part time tanker myself people play them way too defensively

the point is that you can generally stand to take a couple hits

[ancient ocean]

Depending on which game

Like in bf4 a lot of the times you can't move without getting locked by 3 different people

[sour stratus]

battlefield 5 tankers are just sit and camp mostly

thats why i outscore them most of the times

[brave coral]

yeah you do have to be mindful of pushing too hard, but generally you can play fairly aggressively without being killed by infantry

just be wary of letting people get too close, that’s where infantry can do some real damage quickly

really it’s AT guns and enemy tanks you have to actually watch out for mostly

[sour stratus]

thankfully i keep an eye on those

its funny whenever im just standing there, waiting to get shot

just to know where andd what they are

[kindred birch]

F is for friends who do stuff together u is for u and me n is for nywhere and nytime at all down here in the deep blue sea

[sour stratus]

👉 #general for random stuff

[magic rune]

guys on battlefield, how many big seasonal updates have there been?

[solid hinge]

idk tbh

[ancient ocean]

What do you mean?

[weary delta]

IS BF6 going to be set in Modern-Era?

I miss that

BF3 was my favorite game

[ancient ocean]

There's no information about bf6 yet

[weary delta]

oof

[sour stratus]

We can't do anything about it other than wait

[ancient ocean]

But you can go to #220326362077069323 and put game announcements on, there will probably be constant messages there when we start getting information

There should be a command to tell people that

[urban vortex]

ive seen hell

in battlefield 5

[solid hinge]

i wonder if literally even half of the battlefield community has ever played on an apocalypse map

[proud ore]

[wide goblet]

lets list the elite class of BF1 from worst to best

[ancient ocean]

The italian dude with the double mag is pretty good

[wide goblet]

Tankhunter is the best

[warped ferry]

more like the flamethrower in a trench

or the saboteur

[solid hinge]

smg sentry > normal sentry

this is factual

[scenic beacon]

bayonet > elites

[uneven hollow]

[sour stratus]

Tank shell>elites

[uneven hollow]

Kamikaze > elites

[solid hinge]

imagine someone’s accuracy with the bayonet charge was below 100%

[brave coral]

there was a bug at one point in bfv where if you kept sprinting after the charge ended you didn’t get the slowdown effect afterwards

so you could just bayonet charge around for much quicker traversal lol

[queen canopy]

There was? How'd I miss that?

[wheat current]

👉

[sour stratus]

[brave coral]

idk it wasn’t a massive thing and you had to do a specific input lol

i knew about it for about a month i’d say before they fixed it lol

you did still have a cooldown so you couldn’t just charge around the whole map

[golden pasture]

The french raider is fun elite

Just wack those mofos

[verbal gulch]

LF eu players to squad up with

only have basic and china rising

[golden pasture]

Also it was suprising when they announced the bfv pre order weapons that they didnt give Browning M1919

[sour stratus]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[verbal gulch]

ty I will do that

[uneven hollow]

When you don’t have regular so you gotta copy and paste

[echo turtle]

😩

[sour stratus]

I have to be useful somehow

[scenic beacon]

that's kinda how i got regular back in the day

i minimodded without access to commands lmfao

had lfg ready to go on my clipboard at like all times

don't think snutten liked me much tbh

[golden pasture]

gotta suck those higher ups

[solid hinge]

Are there any xbox bf1 back to basics server that have players?

[golden pasture]

well thats how you move higher up on different jobs

i doubt it harry

[sour stratus]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[golden pasture]

im on xb1 eu

[solid hinge]

Well that's sad

[golden pasture]

since they aint a thing on eu servers i doubt they are in any other region either

[solid hinge]

I can only find conquest / domination that are riddled with LMG campers and always seem to be ballroom blitz

[golden pasture]

what region

[solid hinge]

Europe too sadly

[golden pasture]

i mean europe is the biggest region for battlefield

i find time to times mixed conguest servers which have all maps

so it aint too bad

[solid hinge]

Yeah me and my mate just wanted to play a more grounded game mode where some dude can't snipe us with LMGs 😢

[golden pasture]

havent rlly seen lmg's problem in bf1 ever

: D

i mean i wreck people with para bellum but i use it more like an smg

[solid hinge]

I don't have a problem with them in the game itself it's just all the lobbies I go in the entire enemy team is support and just camp points and high ground making it all but impossible to make any progress

Sorry for rant lol

[golden pasture]

wanna know what you gotta do

either bring a rifle and bang their heads

oor

push forward with the scary machine of the time

TAAANK

[solid hinge]

yh I guess, it just sucks when I wanna rock assault and all I get is ballroom blitz with like 20 dudes with LMGs on top of the villa

[gray glade]

is it just me or is the mp40 underrated?

used it for the first time in like a year and it was a hipfiring headshotting machine!

[golden pasture]

@solid hinge then again you can avoid the villa

and just win by holding other flags

like in call of duty player mentality which is a thing in other fps games

like you know when someoen camps in 1 building

and you die to that guy

you just go there over and over long as you kill him

but in process you feed him the kills

[wide drum]

I’m trying to get the escalation skin in bf1 but nobody is responding in the Easter egg server, anyone know Morse code here?

[queen canopy]

@wide drum You posted about 20 minutes ago, just be patient. Someone will help at some point.

[wide drum]

Ok thank you

[golden pasture]

i hope

bf6 goes away from morse codes

[sour stratus]

Yeah no it's probably gonna stay

[echo turtle]

It'll be binary and qr codes galore

More dead ends than ever

[golden pasture]

why cant we have actual in game steps

rather than sitting and listening piip piip

pip pip piip

then you record that

to use some morse code reader

if you know how to use one

[sour stratus]

Lazy lul

[golden pasture]

not rlly

when you need some outside programs to help with a step i think there is a problem

or can you read morse code?

[echo turtle]

If it's being printed onto paper

Or if you write it out yourself

Just need a cipher key

[golden pasture]

but can you read morse code by sound

or by

lights or

[uneven hollow]

By any means

[golden pasture]

if i gave you morse code in sound now

can you tell me what i sent you

without any tools

but just by listening

[uneven hollow]

Well sadly for you I don’t understand Morse code

[golden pasture]

thats my point

[uneven hollow]

I mean I know some lads who knows Morse code

[tall frost]

What if Jackfrags ticking time clock that roared the community he Morse code?

Ok but seriously

It’s a ticking clock

There has to be something

Why would Jack add a clock for no reason

[golden pasture]

thats the issue with morse code easter egg steps

[sour stratus]

What's the problem by using other tools mate

[gray glade]

@tall frost to fuck with people's heads

[golden pasture]

i bet less than 20% knows morse code by bf gamers

[tall frost]

If Jackfrags really did that then he would’ve been hated

[limpid valve]

That was so sus

He also like

Dodged the subject in streams

When people brought it up

He’d just immediately start talking about something else

[golden pasture]

the problem with tools is that you need tools in the 1st place

[tall frost]

[golden pasture]

to solve something in game

[limpid valve]

And ignore the question

[golden pasture]

and those tools aint in game

[sour stratus]

And so what

[tall frost]

Like it’s November

2 months after the clock

Yet nothing happened

[limpid valve]

I know

It was weird

[tall frost]

Aside from fake leaks and the community getting more thirsty

[golden pasture]

you rlly dont seem to understand my point gravi

[echo turtle]

Could be a marketing campaign

[sour stratus]

Because I can't see why is bad to use not ingame tools to solve an EE

[golden pasture]

1st: you need to get access to these tools whatever they are

2nd: it just complicates things and makes it more hassle when it doesnt need to be

[echo turtle]

Solution: you most likely have a smart phone with Google or safari on it

[golden pasture]

like this guy here earlier

what he had to do

he sent his stuff to bf ee discord

now he has to wait someone to do it for him

then this other person tells what he got for answer and then he can move on

until its another morse code

and repeat the process

[sour stratus]

I think it's more annoying for those who have to tell him what he got

[golden pasture]

ding ding ding

no morse codes

less hassle

[echo turtle]

Deciphering Morse code isn't that hard to do if you take the time to listen to it and write it down

[golden pasture]

tell that to everyday gamers

[echo turtle]

Yes it's a hassle but it isn't something like calculus

[golden pasture]

you also gotta learn to write the morse code

[sour stratus]

Or use a Morse translator

[echo turtle]

I'm surprised that people don't take the time to at least understand it

Being that you have the patience to wait for a game to download

[golden pasture]

hopefully you guys at least understood what im trying to say here

[sour stratus]

I kinda get it

[golden pasture]

respect for those good willed people who help others

but for example if you look cod zombies in game easter eggs

not everyone manages to do em

but they are doable in game

[fluid crag]

What is the best weapon for Medi in Battlefield V?

[gray glade]

depends on map really

but the meta is type 2a

[sour stratus]

The mp40 is really precise while hipfiring

Uh

[gray glade]

yeah

i think the last gun balance change improved it quite a bit, at least it feels that way

[sour stratus]

Caps

[brave coral]

not surprised lmao

the thing is she’s actually a solid elite

i’m not sure what the bigger problem is for them - that she’s more widely owned and used, that elites in general are cross faction, or that she’s a she

[gray glade]

i feel its normal she's widely used considering she was given out for "free" basically at one point

personally i loved a squad i got today, we were 4 Ernst's 😄

[golden pasture]

japaneseee

[foggy fox]

[glacial wolf]

Getting gold model 8 is literally impossible when everyone plays like call of duty

[sour stratus]

What

[solid hinge]

How i can enter in giveaway

[sour stratus]

Yeah well

It's already been done so

[solid hinge]

[lavish sapphire]

is it easier to find a full game in bf4 or 1? i've heard bf1 is pretty much dead on pc and completely on oc

[bronze coyote]

is it easier to find a full game in bf4 or 1? i've heard bf1 is pretty much dead on pc and completely on oc
@lavish sapphire plenty of full servers on BF4 yet. I love still being able to hop on every now and then

[lavish sapphire]

alright well I enjoy both so I'll be getting BF4 🙂

[elfin scroll]

Is there something happening with Battlefield 3? It’s showing as coming soon in my game library

[glacial wolf]

Not for me lmao

I'm chilling trying to get crouching kills next thing I know I get 360 no scoped from someone with and mg lmfao

[gray glade]

is there any better feeling in BFV than doing so well you get cheating accusations?

[glacial wolf]

Nobody

Every good tank and plane player

[sour stratus]

Hm

[golden pasture]

in likes of bf4 i just called the badmin heli spammers the lowest scums there is ;D

banning lock on launchers from lobby and keeping heli to you is

[gray glade]

yeah

or even worse, those admins that kick people that get the chopper before they do

[solid hinge]

Why tf on high tide do the feet look so small

[sour stratus]

What

[solid hinge]

The dudes feet are so small

Or just in comparison

[golden pasture]

maybe you jsut have big feet

[icy sluice]

I like getting messages from tank players or planes telling ME to get out of a tank or plane

[sour stratus]

Pfff

[icy sluice]

because I killed them or something

[sour stratus]

Sounds funny

[queen canopy]

@icy sluice Plane salt is always amazing, especially as a pilot lol

[scenic beacon]

even better as an mmg

they get mad at me for spraying them every time they get close with incendiary bullets

actually kinda fun when they try and hunt you down

[queen canopy]

How effective are the incendiary rounds? I've never actually used them

[golden pasture]

i get the plane hate cause the opportunities to use plane in the 1st place aint that often

so i get if someone wanna use plane too 😄

[craggy moat]

https://tenor.com/view/radical-islam-isis-isil-gif-4719027

[scenic beacon]

they're not too good, but it's fun to blast with an mg42

[sour stratus]

I am concerned about that link

[scenic beacon]

sometimes 1200 rpm nailing a fighter as they pass by does a good chunk

[craggy moat]

I am concerned about that link
@sour stratus isis dude skating

What about it

[gray glade]

the incendiary rounds actually got improved in one of the last few patches

vs fighter planes you can do alot of damage

no joke

[golden pasture]

dunno is there a bug still in bfv when your plane is about crash on land and you leave the plane same time

you just casually get up from plane when it crashes

and you live

[solid carbon]

https://twitter.com/bfbulletin/status/1324486164129132545?s=21

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

BREAKING: EA's chief executive officer (Andrew Wilson) says the new #Battlefield title will release in the "holiday season 2021" and plans to share “a lot more” about it next spring. Via #EA #Q2FY21 Financial Results.

https://t.co/4oFegElX11

Twitter · Nov 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

Some news

[glossy rune]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1324486371478802432

very excited

[golden pasture]

i mean the launch window was kind a expected

and they always start the marketing during spring

so its not new news

but confirmation

[glacial wolf]

I hope it's modern and not some civil war musket stuff

[gray glade]

it wont be civil war

that's too far back

[glacial wolf]

Lmfao

[gray glade]

😄

it will be either cold war era, 60's to 90's, or it will be modern or near future

[golden pasture]

or it will take in last year

or yesterday

[glacial wolf]

Hopefully modern or future

[gray glade]

modern could be between 90's - 2020

[glacial wolf]

I don't need 2 kold war games in a row

[golden pasture]

i would say

[gray glade]

bf4 was like 2020 in base game and DLC's took it to like 2040 or something

[golden pasture]

we slowly start going for new new modern

leaving 90's to 10's modern

i mean countries are slowly upgrading their standard rifles etc

[gray glade]

i would have supported cold war era if CoD hadn't done it first

now it wouldn't feel all that special anymore

[golden pasture]

i mean they cant change the direction anymore

[glacial wolf]

Exactly

[golden pasture]

they dont know when they started on bf6

what cod was gonna do that year

[glacial wolf]

No way they both had the same idea

The companies have to have some form of communication too

[golden pasture]

good joke

competition

sony probably calls microsoft always

hey ms

we are gonna release game x this year and month

okay?

[echo turtle]

No

[glacial wolf]

Corporate spies

[golden pasture]

it doesnt work like that

sad as it

[sour stratus]

You haven't seen gran Turismo fans

We have to wait atleast 5+years for a new game

[feral glade]

Because CoD is releasing cold war is all the more reason BF will...they have a tendency to release similar content. Besides Cold War has a lot of variables for expected conflicts factions and of course micro -transactions.

they have my soul as well

[echo turtle]

Well they didn't rush to make another game set in the future the moment AW dropped

[feral glade]

thats because they were busy building bfv and bf6

i'm still believing that bfv is a early release of bf6 with ww2 skins and weapons

[golden pasture]

bfv is basically rushed bf1

re used assests etc

[feral glade]

as they say they are now testing the new battlefield and happy with results

cold war is considered modern

[golden pasture]

modern is quite a wide term as well

[feral glade]

yeah

[golden pasture]

from 90's to present day

even 80's

[echo turtle]

They have one more year before release which hopefully gives them enough time to iron out bugs

[feral glade]

from 60's to now

i mean evenn the music from the 60's is considered modern

[golden pasture]

what is even modern to be fair

when did modern start xd

[feral glade]

i think after ww2 and the bomb

[golden pasture]

50's wasnt modern by todays standards

[feral glade]

modern being mechanized warfare

[golden pasture]

eguipment wise its from the past

[feral glade]

no but the early 60's was

napalm carpet bombing tactical nukes

only thing that has really changed are drones

[echo turtle]

Did America go crazy and just drop a shit ton of nukes during the cold war

[feral glade]

no but in a game it can be supposed

they had the technology

[golden pasture]

only thing what is advancing obviously is the weaponry

and vehicles ofc

[feral glade]

and if they do cold war it wouldnt hurt anyones feelings politically correct wise

[golden pasture]

like giving someone G3 rifle now would say its old and outdated

@feral glade but they would make the russians the bad guys

😄

[feral glade]

well the 3rd world countries used "hand me down" weapons

[golden pasture]

if it follows suit of 3 and 4

its us vs rus again

for millionth time

[feral glade]

well of course they would @golden pasture or at least they would use proxies

[golden pasture]

i mean to defend russians regarding mw 19

[feral glade]

im thinking so way off stuff like Cubans in Angola

[golden pasture]

cod did em quite dirty for campaing

[feral glade]

or Cubans invading Miami

[golden pasture]

no wonder russians didnt like the game there

😄

[feral glade]

i think tyhe russians now would be amused by a cold war scenerio

[golden pasture]

i just want something more

than here is your modern game

rus vs us it is

be happy

[feral glade]

and cold war leaves the chinese out so they wont boycott the game

well cold war would be far mor diverse than Russia vs US

[golden pasture]

ww2 was quite diverse as well but look what we got

[feral glade]

like i say Angola...viet nam, a direct nato vs iron curtain...etc

even a sudan civil war

also indonesia

[golden pasture]

when was the last time we even saw euro forces in modern fps game

[feral glade]

bf2

[hybrid dragon]

[golden pasture]

and bf2 came out

05?

[feral glade]

key words: never before seen scale

[golden pasture]

i dont trust anything andry wilson says

[feral glade]

this is bfv with cold war skins in a massive multi player game

[golden pasture]

pr talk

at it finest

[feral glade]

im willing to bet on it

[golden pasture]

i mean they can re use weaponry for example from bfv

cause not like the ww2 weapons went away right away after the war

[feral glade]

the bfv engine is polished and slick...and in that one release they showed those dozens of "pale" bfv soldiers on the beach

they use the same weapons mechanics with different skins...its that simple

vehicles same with updated skins...all the buildings are intact

hell the jungle maps look like they could be vietnam

[golden pasture]

some forest maps would be cool

[main grove]

Most American cosmetics did give me more vietnam vibes than WW2 vibes

Due to being pacific themed

[feral glade]

right...i think this is why they ended bfv updates

they didnt want to give away too much of the next game

[golden pasture]

oor when they changed the ttk again and lost all momentum xd

players left and it was time to let it go

xd

[feral glade]

no players didnt leave its that they reached their revenue goal.

after all it was a $60 game with free DLCs

i mean dont you suppose it cost them a hell'a lot more to develop than $60 a pop? if not for the micro transactions it would'a been a loser at that $60 price

[golden pasture]

Dont forget the deluxe edition

Next time when i go to stockholm i go stand in front of the dice studios and yell in finnish what i think about it

[feral glade]

hahahaha.....right-on

[gray glade]

say a few words for me as well

i bought that shit too

[feral glade]

you guys bought the delux?

[gray glade]

yes

[feral glade]

damn

[golden pasture]

Yea cause im a fucking idiot

[feral glade]

well hell you still got your monies worth

[wild kayak]

I'm still looking for the best BFV MG on PC

Bren is too slow

[gray saffron]

bar

[wild kayak]

MMGs are way too situational

I have yet to play more with BAR

[gray saffron]

play bar

it will set your bar higher

[wild kayak]

FG42 is really good, except it has some kick and only 20 bullets

Isn't BAR a MMG?

[gray glade]

madsen is good if you put a scope on it

"scope"

[wild kayak]

Madsen is garbage

5 bullets less than Bren, as slow as bren, reload longer than bren

and less damage than FG42, Bren and BAR

except a bit more dmg at range

[feral glade]

ive been using the FG42 its a dead shot weapon

[wild kayak]

FG42 kicks a bit too much to be used on long range for bursts larger than 2 bullets

so it cannot outgun Garand

[left whale]

I would walk around with a FG42

[feral glade]

i used to use the madsen its very stable

[gray glade]

^

[feral glade]

yeah FG42 is a walker andn runner

[wild kayak]

Madsen looks like a decent choice for longer ranges, but it only has 25 bullets

[gray glade]

what about the lewis

[wild kayak]

At which point it'd be better to just use 1919A6

[feral glade]

gotta go for the shoot from the hip tree

[wild kayak]

but 1919A6 has no scope

Lewis is garbage

[feral glade]

belly campers special

[left whale]

i was using lewis as a walk around weapon with 47 round mag

[feral glade]

dont it kick too hard for run and gun?

[wild kayak]

Lewis has lots of recoil, rather slow fire rate

[left whale]

if you know what youre doing then its fine

[feral glade]

usually see those lewis guy belly camping on a nearby hill

[left whale]

yes it has a lot of recoil but you have to control it

[wild kayak]

Lewis has more bullets

[left whale]

doesnt work in 5m but it works really well in 20-30

[feral glade]

so you burst fir it then?

like the old AK

[left whale]

so i got lots of headshots with the lewis

kinda

[wild kayak]

But better than Madsen I guess

[left whale]

depends on the weapon range

and your play styles

[feral glade]

well madens not that powerful...but its steady good for a new player

[wild kayak]

M1919A6 with a scope would be perfect

[golden pasture]

LS due it being finnisj

[feral glade]

its from finland you say?

[left whale]

not a big fan of mmgs (since i stopped playing bfv)

[golden pasture]

Ls 26 ye

Ls stands for Lahti Suomi

[feral glade]

im truly a smg whore

[wild kayak]

MGs seem to be garbage when compared to other weapon types

[feral glade]

i like to run fast

[brave coral]

ls26 is like an AR honestly

[wild kayak]

They are situational, yes

[brave coral]

as are all the 20 round lmgs really

[wild kayak]

But they do not really excel at those situations, given the other choices

[brave coral]

lmgs aren’t situational lmao

[gray glade]

i'd rather use an assault rifle than an lmg tbh

[wild kayak]

Because MGs are underpowered

[feral glade]

did you guys ever think that there might be too many guns in the game?

[left whale]

the m1 is excellent in close range

[wild kayak]

Guns like Garand, Gewehr, SMLE Turner or even Stg44 outgun them

[brave coral]

i mean most of them aren’t going to outshoot an smg at close range but that’s about it, they’ll probably outperform any other automatic weapons at a majority of ranges

[feral glade]

i remember bf42 each class had only one weapon

[left whale]

like you can do a >80 damages per close range headshot

[wild kayak]

LMGs do not have enough ammo

in the mags

for their firerate and accuracy/stability

[brave coral]

... take your complaints to early-mid 20th century gun designers lmao

[wild kayak]

ofc weapons are supposed to be more or less historically accurate

so mag sizes aren't a flexible thing

[feral glade]

if they were truly acurate it would be a different game...most of us wouldnt like it much

one shot your dead dead

[gray glade]

if only the mg34 had it's historical rate of fire

[wild kayak]

Nah

MGs are fine in BF4

[brave coral]

25-30 rounds is more than enough for most engagements unless you really can’t land your shots considering the accuracy of most lmgs, especially if you get the bipod out

[wild kayak]

They have extreme stability with bipod deployed

and don't kill in one shot

And most of you play Assault anyway

[gray glade]

i really wish the bipods in bfv worked like their bf4's counter parts

[wild kayak]

and Assault has semiautos which outgun most MGs with finger in the butt

[brave coral]

and the 20 round lmgs are typically designed for use as battle rifles rather than suppressive lmgs

[wild kayak]

I wish bipods in BFV were as effective lol

[brave coral]

they really are already though

[wild kayak]

in BF4 and BF1 bipods were gamechangers

[gray glade]

mmgs are so finicky in bfv, like because your body touches the terrain or an object, the bipod undeploys

which is usually in mid combat it feels like

[wild kayak]

MG4 without bipod was good for maybe up to 10 meters if fired in bursts

[brave coral]

eh i’ve not really had any issues other than occasionally trying to mount on partially destroyed walls in the past year or so lol

[wild kayak]

MG4 with bipod (and heavy barrel) can defeat snipers from across the map, if you have a keen eye and good grasp of the recoil

[feral glade]

well after all bfv is a somewhat retroactive game designed more for running and gunning old style...bf1 and bf4 were optics based

[wild kayak]

Yeah, I prefered MGs much more in BF1 and BF4

in BF1 they're kinda arcadish and still very situational, but still fun

[gray glade]

i had 24 000 kills with mg4 in bf4, and i havent played that game since bf1 beta 😄

[wild kayak]

in BF4 they are very versatile

[brave coral]

wow really i couldn’t tell from you going on about it literally every night

[feral glade]

well he obviously loved that game

i did as well before bfv release

[wild kayak]

bipod MG4 with enough effort can defeat AR without the bipod deployed

[gray glade]

m249 was really good as well

[wild kayak]

They were almost the same

[gray glade]

yeah

[wild kayak]

except MG4 was half-objectively better

[gray glade]

i forget what the difference was, but there was a tiny difference

[wild kayak]

M249 had more horizontal recoil, MG4 had more vertical recoil

that's the only difference

[gray glade]

aws was good

[wild kayak]

and (imo) vertical recoil is easier to control

[brave coral]

it is yeah

[wild kayak]

AWS was decent mag size quick reload machine for a map that had too many flanks

like Locker

[brave coral]

vertical is basically just pull down, horizontal is trickier

[wild kayak]

Too many flanks for bipod

[brave coral]

especially if it bounces to both sides

[wild kayak]

..though I recently did find a good spot for bipodding on Locker

on rocks outside A flag - though FLIR doesn't work well there bcos of the regular snowstorms

better to take X4 scope and shoot at people outside near C

If only M1919A6 had a 3-6X scope..

It's both accurate and controllable enough

and the bullets fly fast enough as well, especially after the upgrades

Maybe then I'd be able to counter those OP assault semis

like garand

[brave coral]

literally nothing stopping you doing that with the iron sights or an AA sight lmao

literally just figure out how to spot people at a distance and its ez range kills

[wild kayak]

I love every aspect of the BFV Support's class except the weapons - MGs are fun to use but just too weak or rather easily countered

[brave coral]

wow holy shit thats news to me

[wild kayak]

Yeah it's weird they left the ruskies out

[feral glade]

we will get the soviets in bf6 cold war

[wild kayak]

Really wanted to crush some soviet skulls

fill some bolshevik bodies with lead

[feral glade]

and we will get our Aks back in our grubby little hands

[wild kayak]

burn the sickle and hammer bearers alive

I guess they'd add the soviet AT rifles as well

[wild kayak]

PPSh would be OP I bet

[feral glade]

like I say we'll get the soviets in bf6

[wild kayak]

Imagine EA being a big studio that could afford to maintain and update their titles for even up to 10 years

[feral glade]

those reds will be cruising over the west german border

[wild kayak]

ha ha.

Oh yeah

I already want a long-range MG to mow down the reds

[feral glade]

this will finally bring in the german leopard tanks

[wild kayak]

One gadget that I think the Battlefield games could use more is the grappling hook

like in BF2 DLCs

[amber pine]

[feral glade]

.... and fast ropes too

[wild kayak]

it worked extremely well there

[feral glade]

outta choppers

[wild kayak]

Grappling hook for Support and Recon

[feral glade]

bring back the spec opps class?

[wild kayak]

to get good positions on high, difficult to access grounds

spec opps?

You mean run-and-gun?

[feral glade]

spec ops with his C-4 and grappling hook

[wild kayak]

Eh, that's recon

[feral glade]

no in bf2 it was a separate class

[wild kayak]

ye ik

[prime pine]

In hardline every class had the grappling hook

[feral glade]

bring him back

i think we need far more classes in game

[wild kayak]

I do not share that view

fewer classes = more things that 1 class can do

[feral glade]

support for anti-tank and air, squad machine gunner, assaults, recons, medics, and a officer class separate

oh yeah and spec op

[wild kayak]

or just make a classless BF

lol

[feral glade]

boring

[wild kayak]

Support should be right-behind-the-frontline infantry

or rather

[feral glade]

plus EA would have less cosmedics to sell

[wild kayak]

behind-the-frontline

recon far-behind-frontline

and then assault and medics together

[feral glade]

you mean recon far up front?

[wild kayak]

Well, that depends

[prime pine]

Give aggressive weapons and defensive weaponry to both classes for playstyles

[wild kayak]

snipers could be anywhere, but far away from enemies

[feral glade]

recon means reconnaissance

means ranger

[wild kayak]

Recon ever father

but with good tools for recon

[feral glade]

now a sniper thats a different story

[prime pine]

Recon has trench carbine which while a ghetto subbie, is still a good weapon for aggro recon

[wild kayak]

I am one of those obscure people who always used recon for actual recon

I used MAV more than I sniped in BF4

[feral glade]

so yeah we need like 9 classes or so

[wild kayak]

same for periscope in BF1

and I always take spotting scope in BFV

[feral glade]

i never do recon in bfv

[wild kayak]

I always do

[timber compass]

hi

[feral glade]

hey goose

[timber compass]

i'm new

[prime pine]

Welcome goose

!

Hope you enjoy yourself here

[timber compass]

ok

[wild kayak]

I hope they keep the fortifications system in the next titles

It's excellent

[feral glade]

i hope they levalution every static item

[wild kayak]

Boy if I only had it in BF1

[feral glade]

id love to make road blocks with fallen trees

[brave coral]

honestly it feels like something that would have been introduced in bf1 considering the trench warfare and stuff

sandbags, barbed wire and whatnot

[feral glade]

yeah true

[wild kayak]

Would've worked perfectly with the MGs in BF1

[feral glade]

drop a couple trees on the road and lay some C-4 on the sides

[timber compass]

anyone here on xbox one

[wild kayak]

And then get blown up by MAV

lol

[feral glade]

hahaha

[wild kayak]

hunting C4 quads/jeeps/bikes was my favorite with MAV

[brave coral]

i think one change i would make is having some more forts built at the start of the round

especially in linear modes like breakthrough

[feral glade]

gimme a fast moto and some c-4

[brave coral]

rush actually does that where like 90% of the defense fortifications are built already

[feral glade]

PC here goose

catch some xbox action @looking for games xbox on the left there <

[wild kayak]

console lol

I always wanted to try playing with mouse and keyboard on a console

[feral glade]

i actually might get a new console if they in fact host native keyboard mouse

i havent had a console since ps1

[wild kayak]

The only console I had was Pegasus

[feral glade]

but $500 console vs a new PC at around $1,200 for bf6 makes a console a viable move

[wild kayak]

PC is cheaper in the long run tho

and has many more functions

and less limitations

and modding

[feral glade]

as long as theres native mouse/keyboard of course

[wild kayak]

And you can repair it yourself

[feral glade]

right very true.

[wild kayak]

and upgrade without buying the whole new thing

[feral glade]

im strictly a PC guy

[wild kayak]

Plus you can technically emulate console on PC

[feral glade]

just for expense if i dont have the jack for a brillient PC the new consoles are a viable alternative

but good thing is just about any PC can run every BF game out now

[wild kayak]

If you emulated the consoles, even BC1 and BF1943

[feral glade]

oh yeah

so I could put together a viable gaming PC for around $300 now

[wild kayak]

BF1942 has good immersion

[feral glade]

but by the time bf6 comes out i dunno

[wild kayak]

but terrible balance lol

[feral glade]

bf42 was my first bf game

[wild kayak]

same

[feral glade]

yeah?...too cool

i was in on the demo release in fact

[wild kayak]

Unless you sit near the medic cabinet and ammo crate all the time, Engi and Medic are literally most powerful classes

[feral glade]

yeah the medic rulled

back when every class had just one main weapon

[wild kayak]

which imo sucked

[feral glade]

ive been hooked on the SMGs every since

[wild kayak]

was rather inflexible

smgs gay

I mean

[feral glade]

naw man they're handy

[wild kayak]

they are fun to use in BF1942 bcos historical accuracy and sounds and all that

[feral glade]

im into them even in bfv

[queen canopy]

BFV SMGs are fun as hell

[feral glade]

also i played engie mostly in bf4 because they had the SMGs

yeah bfv medic class is the best overall

if you like to hop around a lot that is

[wild kayak]

I perceive SMGs/ARs as the ultimate noob weapon

[feral glade]

ded wrong its the shooties that are noobian

shotguns*

so 17 whats a mans weapon for you?

a long range sniper?

[wild kayak]

for me smgs/ars are generic, extremely easy to use, no ADS, neglible recoil weapons for people who don't want to put effort

something a console or CoD player would use

[feral glade]

shit man SMGs are front line weapons

[wild kayak]

I like machineguns and unconventional weapons

[feral glade]

you gotta be quick and slick to use them well

[amber pine]

[wild kayak]

With ARs/SMGs you just dive into a flank and start thinking when action starts

[feral glade]

so you mean belly camping?

[wild kayak]

unless it's very CQC and you just spray and pray like SMG 08/18 or Type 2A

[feral glade]

oh right i read you wrong ...yes with SMGs you jump in and quick react

quick and slick

smoke um and drump um

run like a rat

[wild kayak]

with weapons like bipod MGs, mortar or drones you have to think beforehand

you have to think tactically

[feral glade]

like a noob?

[brave coral]

i mean not really lol

[feral glade]

just kiddin

[wild kayak]

Where to deploy, which flanks to watch for, how to defend them

when to deploy

when to start shooting

you need spatial awareness

you need to watch the map

[feral glade]

so its a quick thinker verses a contemplator

[wild kayak]

you need the intel

and yeah I am the 'belly camper' except I do not really like camping nor do I camp

I defend

Yeah

[brave coral]

like it takes the tiniest bit of thought which most people should do unconsciously like “don’t set up with your side to a clear line of sight from the enemy spawn” but you can basically just set up a bipod on any old bit of cover, grab a couple kills and move on

[wild kayak]

and thought the difference between defending and camping might be incomprehensible for your usual Assault player

it is there

[feral glade]

i also defend when my team holds a majority of flags ...i dont get greedy and try for all flags ...thats a losers game

[wild kayak]

IMO camping is sitting in concealment and waiting for an enemy to pass by closely, to kill him - not exactly to PTFO

[feral glade]

no i agree defending is defending camping is when most of your tean assuaults and you lay on your belly point whoring

[wild kayak]

defending is stopping the enemy in his tracks before he can enter an area (usually to PTFO)

[feral glade]

thats defending yah

[wild kayak]

so in BF4 or BF1 for example I do lie down with the long-range accurate MG, but I do not wait for people to pass by

[feral glade]

that would be belly camping yeah laying in wait

so i like to assault go in and take the flags

[wild kayak]

I lie down on an elevated point with great view and shoot at anyone I can see

[feral glade]

then defend them when i have a majority of the flags

so lewis gun belly camping?

[wild kayak]

Exposing myself to pretty much everyone

which is opposite of camping

[feral glade]

except your team is ahead of you taking the flac

[wild kayak]

Yeah

[feral glade]

and you are laying behind them shooting for points?

[wild kayak]

and I'm behind, making sure no assault CoDkid does a backcap and anally flanks the whole team, taking all of the points

[feral glade]

hummm

[wild kayak]

or if not - supporting the assault with fire from afar

[feral glade]

you wouldnt last in one of my squads

[wild kayak]

I'm the one that makes sure your squad lasts

I'm Support.

[feral glade]

no my squad are up front not in the rear

most of the guys i play bf with run and gun

even the recons are up front

[wild kayak]

and then you lose a back point and lose 3 more points

and then get killed from behind

[feral glade]

its a matter of similar type players find each other

[wild kayak]

or you get flanked and half of the squad dies

I'm here to make sure none of that happens. And I'm succesful most of the time

[feral glade]

no as i say we dont get greedy we make sure to take a certain amount of flags then hold them

thats how you play conquest

[wild kayak]

Yeah

Exactly

[feral glade]

its not about taking all the flags

[wild kayak]

90% of the time the 'good' time caps so many flags and gets so ahead that when the enemy does a single backcap, they are spread so far and so thin they lose most of the map

[feral glade]

indeed

thats why i hardly ever play with "pubs"

i play with the dsame guys everyday

[wild kayak]

You cannot spontaneously change how 85-90% of people feel

But you can make sure the enemy doesn't do a backcap

[feral glade]

one good squad can win a map

ive seen this time and time

again

[wild kayak]

Yeah

most of people are zergs

swarming form point to point

[feral glade]

point whores

[stoic breach]

I perceive SMGs/ARs as the ultimate noob weapon
COPE

[wild kayak]

it shows especially in BF1

with the map design

like on nivelle nights

[feral glade]

@stoic breach lol razen

[wild kayak]

for a defending machinegunner like me it almost becomes a RTS game

[stoic breach]

So you like Battlefield 2 and games that were made before people realised how to design FPS

[wild kayak]

After a while guessing which point the enemy will try to take next becomes very easy

Nah, I like BF4

Because it caters to every playstyle

[feral glade]

i actually like all the bf games...except hardlinbe

[brave coral]

i mean arguably so does almost every bf game lol

[wild kayak]

BF1 does too, but in a kinda arcade way

[dim vessel]

hardline had some cool ideas

like the moving conquest points

[wild kayak]

BC2 was more for assault and sniper players

[feral glade]

he cars were good

[brave coral]

i’ve experimented with basically every conceivable playstyle in bfv with reasonable degrees of success

[wild kayak]

BF4 is a tiny bit biased on vehicles

especially the flying ones

[feral glade]

very biased

[brave coral]

yeah hardline honestly had some neat stuff

[wild kayak]

Eh, hunting vics in BF4 isn't that difficult

[brave coral]

especially like the grappling hooks and ziplines

[dim vessel]

the hidden reloads were cool too

[wild kayak]

Except for helicopters on Shangay (the worst map in the whole Battlefield franchise) and Dawnbreaker

[feral glade]

to be honest i didnt give to much of a run...i played it for maybe 10 dys then went back to bf4

[brave coral]

yeah they had fun with the animations in hardline

[dim vessel]

Siege of Shanghai is the worst map in all of battlefield?

[wild kayak]

Yeah, imo

[feral glade]

naw

[wild kayak]

it's awful

terrible

[dim vessel]

I've never heard that before

[brave coral]

i guess it’s one where they felt they could be a bit goofy with it

[feral glade]

its confusing yeah but very much a battlefield

[wild kayak]

it becomes twice as better when the tall C building collapses

but still bad

[dim vessel]

17, why do you think that?

I'm interested

[feral glade]

yeah?

[stoic breach]

Nah hes right, Siege of Shangai is dogshit

But its not as bad as Gulf of Oman

[feral glade]

you do have n intersting take on bf with th camping style and all

[wild kayak]

It caters solely to:
A) helicopter players
B) snipers
C) assault players

[misty plinth]

Bf4 maps are bad

[stoic breach]

Whoops messed up my sentence lol

Distracted by kfc

[feral glade]

well assault is all about battlefield

[wild kayak]

Gulf of Oman has some vehicle balancing issues, but by design it's not bad

[dim vessel]

I never had an issue with it, but I did mostly play assault when Bf4 was popular

[feral glade]

kfc?

[wild kayak]

Gulf of Oman is just outdated, not bad

[stoic breach]

Im eating chicken right now

[wild kayak]

Take another BF4 map for example, to compare to shangay

[brave coral]

i mean, if it caters to heli players then engineer is implicitly catered to as well

[wild kayak]

Zavod

[brave coral]

bc it’s a target rich environment for their anti vehicle shit

also not every map has to cater to every single conceivable playstyle lol

[wild kayak]

Zavod has helicopters, it has long empty spaces and elevated points for snipers, it has semi-urban, industrial and underground places for assaults, enough space for vehicles and for hunting them - for technics

[dim vessel]

unless the mods of the server ban stingers

[feral glade]

then for me pearl market is my map

[stoic breach]

Pearl Market is fuckin sick

[dim vessel]

because they cant fly helis if stingers exist

[wild kayak]

and enough cover and concealment for Support players

[brave coral]

yeah but that’s an issue with badmins not map design lol

[dim vessel]

totally

[wild kayak]

lol stinger

[feral glade]

sick as hell but i love it man....hahahaha

[wild kayak]

Stinger is alright

UCAV is the hidden meta of BF4 tho

[stoic breach]

Pearl Market fun cause its CQB but you can run any class

[feral glade]

rpg is a mans rocket

[wild kayak]

Yeah but Pearl Market is only CQC

[dim vessel]

I really want Bf6 to be near future

[wild kayak]

which doesn't cater to every playstyle

[dim vessel]

Final Stand was hella fun

[wild kayak]

only CQC

which is awful

[feral glade]

thats correct thats what makes it fun and gun

[dim vessel]

more railguns plz

[stoic breach]

Nah you can run snipers and LMG on it lol

[wild kayak]

if you play like a zerg, yes

[feral glade]

yeah 17 you can hardly belly camp pearl

[wild kayak]

my playstyle doesn't work on pearl market

[feral glade]

indeed as I said

[wild kayak]

I have to try really hard

[feral glade]

ill toss you my PP2000 SMG

[wild kayak]

🤢

[feral glade]

with my RPG

[stoic breach]

Lmao

[wild kayak]

I usually just go for my usual - MG4 flir bipod

[feral glade]

step up my brotha

[wild kayak]

it's best if you start on the north-east part of the map

near the shore

[feral glade]

fun and gun it man

[wild kayak]

so you can get on the tall buses

run and gun is no fun

it's mindless zerging

[feral glade]

ill knife the bus campers

[wild kayak]

like in CoD or CS

[brave coral]

my playstyle doesn't work on pearl market
so you just adapt it a bit lol?

[feral glade]

easy kills

[wild kayak]

Yeah but I get ON the bus

on top of it

[feral glade]

and get your ass knifed

[wild kayak]

and watch the WHOLE 2 edges of the map

[stoic breach]

Nah belly camping and playing passive is just as much of a "noob" tactic

[prime pine]

Adopt different playstyles and learn the game

[stoic breach]

Probably more

[brave coral]

don’t force a playstyle on a map that doesn’t really work with it lmao

[wild kayak]

I've never been knifed on the bus

[stoic breach]

Its a hard counter to active gameplay

[feral glade]

its THE noob tactic

[wild kayak]

The only way someone could get close is through the middle of the map

and even then they have to go through the point

and I'm gonna see them

[brave coral]

a map not being designed around your specific playstyle doesn’t make it bad

[feral glade]

RPG your ass on top of the bus...heh-he

[wild kayak]

That works too, if you are quick enough :)

[brave coral]

refusing to adapt your playstyle even though it doesn’t work on a map probably is a bad sign for you as a player

[stoic breach]

Calling something a "noob" tactic is in and of itself just a diss for no reason

[feral glade]

im very quick...its my game style

[wild kayak]

@stoic breach it feels noob for me

[stoic breach]

Thats your own problem

[wild kayak]

you don't think, you just go into a flank

[prime pine]

Yes, to you,

[wild kayak]

and then spray and pray

[feral glade]

whatevva it takes

[stoic breach]

If players can rely on their reflexes and not have to play turn-based, more power to them

[wild kayak]

meanwhile with bipod MG you have to think where to set up, watch your flanks, when to shoot

[stoic breach]

Turn-basedfield

[wild kayak]

It's not turn based lol

[feral glade]

man theres not that much to think if you played the map a lot

[prime pine]

All you have to do is wait for someone, there's not much thought into it

[feral glade]

most players are creatures of habit

[stoic breach]

It is if half the battle is figuring out where to stand instead of finding enemies yourself

[wild kayak]

What you do relies on reflexes and movement

[stoic breach]

??

[feral glade]

exactly now your getting it 17

[dim vessel]

youre free to play however you want but don't insult someones tactic of being fast as nooby when all you do is prone with an LMG and wait for people to come to you

[feral glade]

you gotta move and groove

[wild kayak]

What I do relies on observation, deployment and reflexes, but not movement

[feral glade]

and you get naded a lot right?

[prime pine]

How is it of any value to the team

[wild kayak]

Nope

almost never

[feral glade]

cant move fast on your belly

[prime pine]

I cant imagine anyone sitting back doing much

[feral glade]

i call bull

[wild kayak]

@prime pine I cannot count how many backcaps I have prevented

and backcaps tend to snowball dramatically

1 backcap can make the whole map uncapped

[stoic breach]

Yeah cause people wanna have fun and shoot people

[feral glade]

yeah sitting on my belly would make me more than a little nervous

[wild kayak]

I find it incredibly fun

[feral glade]

take all kinds

[wild kayak]

on the 'downtime' I take down helicopters, vics, flankers and maybe snipers with UCAV

[feral glade]

why not just play chess?

[wild kayak]

Because I like doing dakka dakka with guns?

with heavy guns?

and defending points?

securing flanks?

[feral glade]

you gotta take them before you defend them

[wild kayak]

Other people will take care of that at the start of the round.

[feral glade]

you relying on your team to take your flags?

[wild kayak]

I'm Support. I'm here to make sure they have a spine for next assault

Yep

I do

UNLESS it's a point close to our spawn

that's when I go in and cap it asap

[feral glade]

like i say you wouldnt last long in my squad

[wild kayak]

Because it's vital

[brave coral]

i mean i like playing support, it’s my most played class in bfv, but i’m not acting like i’m objectively more useful just by existing on the field lol

[wild kayak]

Yeah I'm not a spray'n'pray player

[feral glade]

im into capture and hold when

we have the majority

[wild kayak]

I can usually hold several points on the map from one spot

By taking down people before they even enter the objective

[prime pine]

Same dr

[brave coral]

’not a spray and play guy’
’yeah i think support is the only skilful class’

it’s a machine gun

spray and pray is kinda the entire deal

[prime pine]

Despite where I know where I am, I try not to let my head get to me and act to be a part of the team

[feral glade]

with a shit can of bullets

[prime pine]

Help teammates, grab a tank and anchor, grab a plane and kill the bombers

Hey you reckon we might get a vehicle change

[feral glade]

SMG isnt has powerful you have to use a bit of gile and quick reactions

[wild kayak]

Depends what SMG

[feral glade]

ive tried them all

[prime pine]

You sorta have to close the distance with the suomi Zen but yeah theyre incredibly destructive

[feral glade]

some are slow and powerful some fast and range bound

[wild kayak]

not BF1 SMGs for sure lol

[prime pine]

Grease gun zen

[feral glade]

to be honest i didnt play a lot of bf1

[wild kayak]

BF4 PDWs are more brain time, but still just spam weapon

[prime pine]

I run it without the suppressor and it feels so good to shoot, things basically a nail gun

[feral glade]

yeah the greasers fun...ive been into the welgun lately

[wild kayak]

BFV SMGs are ridiculously powerful on medium ranges

[brave coral]

again, acting as if a machine gun isn’t like the definition of a spam gun

[wild kayak]

though

I'd say the long range in BFV is medium range in BF4

[prime pine]

I use mgs more like assault rifles

Kek

[wild kayak]

@prime pine in BFV, definitely

[brave coral]

not really? you can make them work but they’re not really going to outshoot anything that works well at mid range lol

[wild kayak]

in BFV LMGs were designed to be more like ARs

For accessibility purposes, I assume

because ARs are the easiest weapon to use

I feel like ranges in BFV got shrunk

crunched

[feral glade]

well technically they didnt have AR s in ww2 but tell that to the thompson

[brave coral]

i mean not really, there are a few that work more like ARs because they kinda were irl

bodie is just a madman who plays with the bren like a suomi

[wild kayak]

in BFV I can use SMGs effectively on ranges I wouldn't be able to in BF4 or BF1

but in BFV I cannot use MGs on ranges I used to be able to in BF4 or BF1

thompson is more of SMG

STG44 is an AR

technically

[feral glade]

its very much an assault riffle...the mg42 is a Sub

[wild kayak]

I mean by real life standards

[feral glade]

i mean for back then

[wild kayak]

Yeah, STG44 was pretty much the first assault rifle

thompson was not an AR

[feral glade]

way too heavy bck then to be considered a SMG

[wild kayak]

assault rifle is a rifle capable of both accurate (usually semi-auto) and automatic fire

[feral glade]

agreed

[wild kayak]

That's why it's called assault (fast and designed for CQC) rifle (accurate and ranged)

[feral glade]

thus the thompson

[brave coral]

i think especially with early ARs there’s a distinction between usage classification and technical classification

[wild kayak]

Thompson wasn't too accurate iirc

[prime pine]

Ribeyrolles was the first AR

[brave coral]

thompson was extremely accurate

[feral glade]

single shot it was very acurate

[prime pine]

Technically

[wild kayak]

but then again, I didn't use it

iirc it had slow-flying bullets too

I'm sure STG44 was much more accurate than thompson tho

[next herald]

BF6 is not coming

[feral glade]

the MG44 would possiblyb be considerd an assult weapon

[wild kayak]

I also think STG44 is the most accurate weapon Assault should get in BFV

[feral glade]

BF6 is not coming
@next herald thats just plain dumb

[wild kayak]

and get rid of the more accurate options

so all semiautos

like garand, gewehrs etc

OR just give every class access to semis

[feral glade]

going back to our original topic 17 i think bf needs far more classes

[wild kayak]

I think BF needs more content lol

[feral glade]

each more disticntive

[wild kayak]

so you can make your class fit your playstyle

[feral glade]

right

[wild kayak]

4 classes is enough, just make them flexible

[feral glade]

no i think 9 classes