#battlefield-legacy-titles
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Conclusion: Its an absolute steal right now
yep yep..i paid $60 and do not regret it
also just get the standard edition you get everything
Im sitting at a spawn beacon right now
@worthy cobalt get off that beacon brother or youll give it up...ha
I gave up a few minutes ago
Would my tactics be consider selfish
@uneven hollow kamikazeing?...hell no
They would not spawn back
oh you mean an enemy spawn beacon?...hahahah...yeah man very tempting to spawn kill them fools
Yes
i always have this impulse to destroy them then think...shit i couldda had some fun
but i suppose i wouldda had a tea bagging coming my way for that shit
I sat there with a axe for a while
it's even funnier when they put it in a sniper spot
they were wise to your plan then...haha...savvy ass bfv playas
No one ever seems to spawn on beacons these days.
Its like they just forget they're there
I just shot a plane with my tank lol
fortunately theres not as many snipies about as they were a few months ago.
I just shot a plane with my tank lol
@worthy cobalt very nice
The best kind of AA
was he "hot dogging"? flying low and bold?
Eh hows it going man?
Yes he was
And get punished with a 75mm through the cockpit
I cry every time I have to use German AA guns.
pilots getting too cocky as bfv matures
Indeed
I cry every time I have to use German AA guns.
@clear dirge cry with zeal and joy?
Yep
@clear dirge cry with zeal and joy?
@feral glade More like cry that my gun has overheated but the plane still has more than 50% health and is now flying right at me
I ran into a building not knowing how many people there was
to combat that, i think vehicles shouldnt be able to use insta self repair mid-combat
oh shit with a vengance they do hate AA and complain a lot about it here on this chat
Haha what could go wrong
infamous last words...haha
Very
That's sounds like the loading screen into one of the bf1 maps
Suez canal
Nice
I believe if my turkish is right instead of "Ayyy british fucks were stopped at western banks of the canal"
It would be Ayyy ingiliz sikikleri kanalın batı kıyısında durduruldu
or for congrads; tebrikler
Is anyone up to play some bf4?
!!lfg @magic smelt
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Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
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#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation
Thanks donkey
or go in a bf4 squad voice channel
watching three hour ww1 documentary
thats long ass time for a gamer
Hey @golden pasture how is rainbow six siege going
Ok
discord is liar
discord is liar
@gray glade hows that?
I kicked through a window to a shotgun barrel one
sad serbia was not included in bf1
austro hungary vs serbia would been cool to see
i poked my head up over a wall to take a peek on merita and got a shot gun blast in my face last night
@feral glade how can you post photos in group
sadly hilarious how ww1 started
other countries just assasinating royals left and right
then it went bang bang
Ok I saw on insta battlefield page they do give aways so I joined
oh right all you need is to have the game open to register
bfv misses quite many factions

ww1 really made the europe we see mostly today
no more classy monarchs
russian empire, austro hungarian empire, german empire
gone

Consequences:
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Nearly 10 million soldiers died and about 21 million were wounded. U.S. deaths totaled 116,516.
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Four empires collapsed: the Russian Empire in 1917, the German and the Austro-Hungarian in 1918, and the Ottoman in 1922.
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Independent republics were formed in Austria, Czechoslovakia, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, and Turkey.
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Most Arab lands that had been part of the Ottoman Empire came under the control of Britain and France.
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The Bolsheviks took power in Russia in 1917, and fascists triumphed in Italy in 1922.
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Other consequences of the war included the mass murder of Armenians in Turkey and an influenza epidemic that killed over 25 million people worldwide.
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Under the peace settlement, Germany was required to pay reparations eventually set at $33 billion; accept responsibility for the war; cede territory to Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, France, and Poland; give up its overseas colonies; and accept an allied military force on the west bank of the Rhine River for 15 years.
this happened after ww1
imagine if germans didnt sink american merchant ships and sink the RMS Lusitania
United States could stayed neutral
Poggers lad
You can survive if you crash into a AA dude
If you angle it right
Well yea but like
That means 2
Kamikazes
Via cheating death
Nope
So not long I started playing bf1, didn't really play a lot of it when it came out
And I can't figure out how to buy vehicle packages(tank hunter for attack plane for example)
How does one do that?
I thought one earned them
dont youjust unlock those by leveling up planes
I think so
and leveling up planes is by shooting pew pews witht hem at stuff and getting scores
finally won a game of bt on al marj
those pickelhaubes german wore early ww1 looks so silly xd
that helmet is ❤️
stahlhelm is so quintessentially german
When you wear one you instantly become german
i dont think anyone likes many of the british outfits
Because they are bri ish
dont youjust unlock those by leveling up planes
@gray saffron Don't they cost warbonds?
i would say world war 1 was more horrible for soldiers than world war 2
well think how the war was fought
poison gas
sitting in trench and hearing artillery strikes over and over
then whistle is blown and you run to no mans land to be bombarded
hoping you arent gonna be in the next wave to jump out and get trained on by some guy beating the crap out of his machinegun
im a bit late on every point damn
ww1 was brutal and bloody
Have you guys seen the movie 1917
great movie
no, dont spoil it for me 😦
oh dude, 1917 was awesome- i think it captured the war decently for what it was worth
you should see it Carver
i really want to, but i promised to see it with a friend one day. 😭
whats the plot of it?
two brothers gotta send a message to another position to tell them not to attack, that its a trap, etc. etc.
aa, i see
really good cinematography allround, very, oddly pleasing on the eyes
gotta check it out at somepoint
also what i watched so far this document
russian people were rlly happy before Lenin became a thing

ehhh, depends which russian person you talk to
a citizen living in Petrograd? eh, alright, good shit
a soldier? o o f
i would say during stalins times civilian life was also quite hellhole
not sure how soviet union was during lenins reign
oh yeah, it was equally bad during stalin's time, but, to be fair, folks were starving... less
lenin only got to see his dream for... i dont even think 4 years? but i dont think much would have changed past what it was right before, during the civil war
dude i was hoping so much that we'd be able to get at least an adrian helm in bfv
bfv misses so much content which is quite sad and hilarious
woulda been awesome, with the french weapons and characters and everythin
ah yeaahh
BF1 gang
The off brand great value ANZACs
but the positive outcome of both world wars
things advanced more rapidly
industry etc
dude i think History Matters sums up the first world war great:
a lot of people died for a whole load of nothing, but with the hope of bringing glory and pride to their empires and leaders, and what it did was set the conditions right for the second world war
@golden pasture Correct, technology advances the fastest in times of war
but, medical-related stuff, industry, and a few countries benefitted greatly in ways of economy
Humans are especially creative in finding ways to kill each other
Sad
and russian empire went down cause all hail communism
russia saw themselves put in a great step forwards by the end of it all, so- good play on that
xd
and when we think about ww1 at start and when it ended
ww1 at start was like fighting in 1800's
and by end it was rather modern allrdy
xD
i mean, french still had their flashy uniforms from 1800's when war broke out..
Im back
Pog
indeed they did xd
Because in peace time they didn't have a clue of what was happening
I can't post images but have you guys seen that one picture of the guy on horseback wearing a gas mask
and british royal guards still wear those bear hats and red uniforms frp, year idk
xd
whats better x8 3.5 inch FFAR or x2 5 Inch im trying to upgrade my P51D
stick to battlefield you pepegas
Fuck lenin
whats better x8 3.5 inch FFAR or x2 5 Inch im trying to upgrade my P51D
depends on if youre going for more dogfighting/clearing roll or heavy ground attack
Command and conquer villain lookin ass
what for?
and bayonet for close? xd
what i find btw funny that even todays US army training they learn to use bayonet
like
why
yknow, those up-close trench assaults
where your regular M4 carbine is too slow to maneuver
The bayonet knife is pretty great
so just go stabby stabby? xD
precisely
how hard would you even need to push the bayonet to get trough all vests
from todays military gear
It probably won't penetrate a ceramic plate
youre goin through vests? dont even bother, youre better off tryna jam it through their skull
aim to the mass
horrible as its sound i was thought not go for head when shooting enemy
reason?
if you shoot someone head
they die
if you shoot someone on chest
they might live and someone gotta try rescue him
so you can shoot the rescuers as well
simple
eh, theyll go down either way depending on what you use
as a living soldier you dont rlly care for dead mate
but if they are still alive
you might try save em
thats why we were thought chest shots are better
and ofc easier target
i thought soldiers just tried to hit their target regardless of where on the body it hit
and then just stay alive themselves
also sad bf1 didnt get the african campaing
how to win a war, 101:
dont get shot
shot others
blitz
get blitzed
japan vs china would been fun to experience as well
i woulda loved to see a few italian maps in bfv
yeah, like some of the greek maps?
Yeah
Would have been cool to see actual ww2 in bfV
Even Province when it was a team deathmatch map
Nah, I can’t shit on BFV too much, I really love it
Gunplay is smooth
Tbh anything would be lovely
there is a ton of ww2 in bfv
Scenery is so nice
But is it
BFV is a game loosely based on WW2
yeah, i personally find bfv pretty fun gameplay-wise, and doesnt look half bad in my regards
Where is the ussr?
lack of atmosphere is sad for bfv
in our hearts
they never won the civil war
WWe is russia then
The axis won ww2
they never won the civil war either
The only thing that really bothers me is the keyboard/mouse users on console
Dday never happen
the funny thing is about ww2 and just war in general, few soldiers actually aimed to kill their enemy
And the invasion of Okinawa never took place
nobody won the civil war, they got hip-checked outta nowhere by probably Britain or somethin, since tey seem to be everywhere already in bfv
The only thing that really bothers me is the keyboard/mouse users on console
@inland dragon Had a friend who did that, he was treated badly by pc players
Yeah, scum
nobody won the civil war, they got hip-checked outta nowhere by probably Britain or somethin, since tey seem to be everywhere already in bfv
Brrrrittish glory
Imagine making a ww2 game and adding the churchill gun carrier as a release vehicle
Oh hoorah! The British empire 🧐
BFV:
where Britain took over half of Europe already, and Germany is simply fighting to stay as an independent country
where the blitzkrieg happened twice, but America got involved for some reason the second time even though D-Day never happened
where Hiroshima and Nagasaki still stand
where Germany has most of Europe shared with the British eternally
stalin is just chilling at russia
You can’t blame Dice for leaving out content; it’s hard to add more stuff when everyone is shitting on the game
Indeed
id love for DICE devs to just come out all of a sudden and explain the super-indepth lore of bfv
"britain came in and conquered russia during the civil war, while also taking France while they were at it, aiming for Germany next- the country needed to go on the counter-offensive to remain independent"
I actually really love how they didn’t go with America in the game straight off the bat
well they fucked up the 1st impression
Indeed
1st impression is the what matters
i heard from someone that maps like wake island were in the game files come launch, but were confidential (i heard, im not 100% sure)
i mean, they had a plan, but kinda forced it to funnel down the live service approach
You gotta admit, the can really make a good trailer. Except for that release one
annd, thats what kinda led to their downfall
Let’s not forget, everything was free
except those broken promises
if they released those maps from launch, they coulda had other maps such as (oh boy, here it comes) the eastern front, china, etc.
I know a fix
released by the time the game development ended
Let’s grab the bfv game to this day and send back in time therefore they’ll have more content for bfv in the past
Via time travel

i mean- i have a theory that DICE devs are time-travelers already
i mean, hear me out-
i will
Hearing out
BF4 takes place in 2020, correct?
its my theory that DICE devs saw what happened in 2020, that ww3 actually broke out in like december, went back in time, and made Battlefield 4 to market off of it, before it even happened
bfv should released year later than orginally
to fill the gab for that year they could have made 5th dlc for bf1. which im sure people would have liked
But since we didn’t have ww3 the timeline changed
BF4 takes place in 2020, correct?
its my theory that DICE devs saw what happened in 2020, that ww3 actually broke out in like december, went back in time, and made Battlefield 4 to market off of it, before it even happened
@steep thunder makes sense
Thus making a time paradox
What if
Two different timelines
Only?
Only dice knows the answer

🙏
Angra's got the right idea here, holy crap-
BFV was originally supposed to be based on WW3
yeah, but they made it about WW2
its all starting to make sense
Does this mean...
yeah, but they made it about WW2
@loud cloud to cover up the fact that they can time travel
Yes
BF1's intro
Dice created a separate timeline
When you die as a soldier, you then posses another one
hang on, Verdun Heights in bf1, looks oddly similar to the wildfires this year as well...
it all makes sense now
yet they messed with it
It’ll make more timeline paradoxes if they mess it up
Wait, what if this is like cod zombies? and we fucked up the whole universe?
2020 is actually the consequence of DICE's actions
Indeed
instead of zombies, we have, covid
holy crap, im glad my theory got so much support- this is amazing
Hold up, we know too much
Looks like someone is trying to break in!
And the government is killing them to cover it up

We cooked
holy crap, North Korea had the right idea all along
And here we were, laughing
Isn't there a north korea map in BF4
OH MY GOD-
No way
THE PLOT JUST KEEPS THICKENING AND PROVING ITSELF
Stop, we’re gonna tear a hole in the fabric of the space-time continuum
It’s the only way I’m afraid
its the only way out: bomb stockholm
watch, BF6, somewhere in the campaign Stockholm's gonna get nuked
Wait, what if we are trapped in a cycle?
except it isnt just in BF6, it actually happens
what if we are the only ones that can do something?
Have BFV break my heart all over again
BF6 will always be coming but will never arrive
we've cracked the code... who knew, it was right infront of our eyes this whole time
dice has unlocked the power to time-travel, and has destroyed the universe in doing so
just gotta solve few fucking morse codes
Well, if anyone was gonna do it, I’m glad it’s DICE
oh ym god... DICE tried to warn us of 2020 this entire time...
🤔
Ngl gonna say let’s not go too over board since this here is indeed #battlefield-legacy-titles
Is battlefield better than cod?
to this day no prospethic arm can replace real arm xd
they started 2020, and are trying to warn us of it
In case a mod or admin lad comes and sees this
Is the battlefield balancing strategy just to make everything overpowered
Like there's a lot of bullshit you can get killed by but everyone has access to the same bullshit
somethings powerful? one up it,
just keep in mind: it can always get worse
until half the servers using the kolibri unironically
ayy in this document french finally got helmets
and new uniforms
wooo
and stahlhelm is introduced
gaas timeee
fucking chemichal warfare
horrible
flying torpedoes?
slingshosts
crossbows
at least they used imagination how to launch shit in air
xd
The crossbow is fine in cod but I wish they back bring the crossbow in battlefield
Crossbow grenades
Soon™
using same boots so long not good
I remember using the crossbow in BF1 but bring back the crossbow in modern battlefield
If they make a sequel of battlefield 2142 how they gonna work on the futuristic version of the crossbow?
fully automatic?
like if you seen the van hellsing movie
he got a fully automatic crossbow
I did some testing and 1x Type 99 Mine does as much damage as 1x Sticky nade
but you get 2 mines
but they aren't thrown as far
!!when
One mine (or sticky) brings the german halftrack down to 78hp
second one brings it down to 45hp
I wonder how effective Demolition Grenade is
Why are we all talking about crossbows
demo grenade i believe does reasonable damage but not a ton
also it’s annoying to use, pretty sure the vehicle has to actually drive over it to detonate
So like a mine
I remember that now
I wonder how much DMG it deals tho
and what is the limit of how many you can throw down
also wondering about the limpet/demolition charge damage
shaped charge does enough damage to insta kill a transport
Its use time seems really long tho..
pretty sure 2 kills a light tank
and you have to come up close
yeah it has a somewhat longer deploy time, you can throw it a short distance
The shaped charge deals the same as the lunge mine
it’s not like you have to be pressed right up to the vehicle though
you can get a couple metres at least, if you toss it
Type 99 mines + at nade launcher seems like the best tank hunting kit for support
yeah probably solid
shaped charge is fun and effective though, so if you’re getting in close enough to use the type 99s then you may as well use those for some heavy damage
Yeah but they have 3rd person view and relatively quick movement
the vehicles
and turrets
so staying around one for too long is not a good idea
It would be if Support had smoke grenades
But it does not, for some odd reason
People still going 'LMAO' when game ends like 2-0
lol
Isn't there some sort of system to help the losing team?
Tbh any single number - 0 is pretty pog
don’t believe there’s any catchup system remaining
@brave coral btw do you play on console or PC?
ps4 normally but not at the moment
ok so i can see this is quickly going to devolve into “console bad pc players are inherently better than console players”
riiight...
not significantly? like overall stuff is a little different but the gameplay is the same
People picking different classes, people playing differently, guns having different stats, less recoil
just certain guns/types are potentially more popular on one platform
also default FoV on consoles being smaller
the stats are identical from platform to platform lol
semi autos and snipers are pretty popular on pc
and people not hearing as well
No they're not
At least in BF1 they weren't
idk about BFV yet
but it seems to be a thing for BFV too
ok funnily enough we’re talking about bfv
from the videos I've seen
I bet consoles have much less snipers
and assaults with weapons like Garand or Turner SMLE
and medics with Jungle Carbine
and more people using fully automatic weapons
all this + the 'blindness' and 'deafness' of the usual console setup
and easier to control guns
and auto aim
makes playing with MGs much easier
MUCH easier
bruh sorry your pc master race genes can’t make up for the fact that you don’t know how to play the game properly yet
but fr get your facts right before you come on the internet and embarrass yourself lol
No. I'm just saying that you've played on PS4 and I played on PC.
weapon stats are identical across platforms in bfv
You had a nearly entirely different experience
it’s not “entirely different”
basically some players are a little less aware and there’s arguably a slight leaning towards certain weapons
and it shows when looking at the gameplay from consoles
People not being as quick or aware of their surroundings
and all that helps MG play greatly
so yeah this has actually devolved into the thing i said it would lmao
ayyy
No, I'm not bashing on consoles lol
document reached tanks!
at least consoles dont have hackers
it's funny watching videos of people playing with LMGs in BF1 on consoles

and hipfiring telescopic MGs
and actually succeeding
because different weapons stats
you act as if there aren’t basically just as many shit players on pc lol
also idk why you keep bringing up bf1 lmao
Because it's very similar
is it because i told you you were wrong so you’re clinging to that as a “i’m not totally wrong” type deal?
All I am saying is that playing with MGs on PC must be a different experience
and MUCH harder than on consoles
my dude the difference is going to be minimal
Nope
It's probably because you've had good experience with them (on consoles)
and I didn't have as good (on PC)
hmm maybe that’s just player skill because i know plenty of pc players who have absolutely no trouble with playing support
just a thought idk
probably wrong since clearly you’re a god player who knows everything about every game on every console after 40 hours
well yeah, if they go full BAR or something
but hey just putting it out there
oh yeah, also knows everyone i know
and around 1500 hours in other BFs to compare
crazy how that works out
You've played more on consoles, I've played more on PCs
I don't know much about gameplay on consoles (aside from the videos I watched and the differences I can assume) and you don't know much about gameplay on PCs
And the morale is - try playing MMGs on PC at least as much as I have and then we can talk.
yeah literally

I mean here’s the thing
since apparently everyone on console has aimbot it should actually be harder to do well as support since once someone spots you apparently they kill you super easy
If your playing on a laptop then it’s understandable
Or a joy con
Or arcade system
i played fps with a nipple mouse
bf6 on switch pls
im the god gamer
yooo da nipple mouse fo today
i need a peripheral nipple mouse, someone need to make one
i also read all that just now 
So much battlefield played today!
We are going on a trip
To our favorite Japanese plane
Going through the sky.
Kamikazing the non believers
XD
omfg the STRATS!!!!! THE STRATS
Your mom was born
If BF5 got more update
on the other hand, Assault and Medic weapons in BFV are so easy to use and have so little recoil
it feels like I'm playing Star Wars
not World Wars
Feels like Battlefront not Battlefield
lol
Lol
and 5's recoil feels bouncy
Pistol Carbine. D-Oh!
i wouldnt call most of the guns lasers
yeah this mf really missing the recent game that literally has swbf gun mechanics and comparing it to a game where guns actually function somewhat like guns
when are the new elites coming
yeah new elite characters
the scottish dudes are alright I guess
nah most of them are pretty fun
rest is edgelord
irish
don’t like how hanna wears her jacket and ilse does look a bit weird
We’re getting Belschnickel for an elite
kinda like the golden weapon skins

also BFV getting an update?
the rest are all pretty good skins generally
Yeah the community update in November
Well quality-wise they are good, but to me they are cringy
what is that update bringing in?
Just the skins or?
Not sure yet 🙂
not personally a fan of elites overall but that’s just preference, i would rather create my own outfits
Oh yeah, I love the basic uniforms
To ensure good quality community servers
yeah community games improvements (what exactly that entails isn’t announced)
probably some balance changes, couple bug fixes, etc
hades helmet is kinda sick with certain torso combos
dr
^
idk she’s cool
the way hannah wears her jacket is indeed dumb tho
for me hades helmet looks like 'look at me I'm trying really hard to look cool'
like most elites
bruh it ain’t that deep lmao
honestly that’s just like... life
i prefer skins over everyone looking like the same 4 people
as for me the gravedigger set is best
you dress a certain way to seem a certain way
though there are some other decent german skins
like the winter-themed ones
nothing flashy
just realistic
very pretty
fuck realism
I love realism
even in nature, look at shit like birds of paradise lol
battlefield is arcadey, we need more flashy and silly skins
i’m always more of a tacticool and believable guy rather than 100% realism
bfv needs a yegor swag skin
in a modern setting i wouldn’t mind a couple random flashy things although probably not to the extent of MW or something
lmao
I like realism with a few unique specks
we said polar opposite things
and tacticool > realism
with occasional swag and meme skins
Well he does look like Father Christmas
anything with visible changes in first person instantly gets extra points, particularly gloves
funny angle yeah
then sliding with your head all the way down
thats a good way to put it lmao
harlem jazz musicians go go go
second one is basically the sturmwulf torso from the ch4 booster
i hope next modern game has renditions of steve and misaki
germans rlly knew their outfits
Gunter but American and German and all other countries
Yeah, imo Germans had the prettiest
coolest looking
See, this is cringe:
especially the head
not top cringe, but still
nah, its cool
What the fuck is this
idk but it looks stupid and out of place
not everything has to be all serious, lighten up
The head piece is nice
especially the head? the head is literally historically accurate lmao
passchaendale offensive begiins
and it’s a really nice headgear piece
Indeed
it’s an anzac slouch hat with a lower face covering
Indeed
Especially this
ok so go complain to 1940s australia lol
Indeed
Heck, I would
aho that’s my image isn’t it
Yes it is Dr
bro literally no one cares what you think about it lol
ok bro
you deadass going to walk up to an anzac vet and go “hey the hat you wore when you were fighting against the axis forces looked dumb lol”
Gg
would just become really fucking annoying to deal with
then everyone would be forced to play support
there’s no reason for that
which kinda bad idea
Nope?
perhaps it should actually be on you to change our minds, since it’s you with the proposal
- There are support players
- Medics can still heal people
- You can pick up ammo from dead people
- Would make Support more valuable
also would enable the scorched earth tactics
ok
this document was rlly cool and informative for almost 4 hours
gotta ask the old question again why the fuck america was in base game of BF1 xd
Tanks vs one man with lunge mine Support class.
All missed but one destroyed them all. XD
Lunge mine too risky to engage full hp tanks
I like AT nade launcher best
Generous trajectory, spammable
- you can resupply immediately
Ye
lunge mine is a good way to bring a tank to half health
You have 3 total ammo but can immediately resupply 4th
doesnt matter if its risky and i die
from an existing support crate of yours
as long as its weakened so someone else can kill it
thrown down another immediately
5th at nade
resupply at station
6th, 7th and 8th nade
- more nades from crates of other Supports
With proper setup 2 players can send 14 AT nades from anywhere
yeah
AT nade launcher
ah
Support's gadgets
for 1 player 5 AT nades is max launch with just the crate
with 2 support players it rises to 7 AT nades per 1 player
and then +2 for each next Support
ofc that'd require really good setup and execution
Though it shouldn't be an issue with 2 people
requires players coordinate and support each other
and 14 AT nades non-stop is a lot of damage
so not likely
2 lunge mines vs 14 AT nade launches
people think you need to be in a voice chat or smth to coordinate
all that isnt even necessary, you can use common sense to tell if someone about to take on a tank
Indeed
i see someone charging a tank as a medic, i cover them with smoke
Well yeah
i see an assault die trying to take out a tank, i shoot an at grenade to finish it off
etc
people just not gud
But you have to:
Have both Supports set up chests
Fire 3 nades each
Have both Supports resupply from both chests
Fire 2 nades each
Have both Supports thrown down new chests and resupply from both of them
Fire another 2 nades each
i dont mean this particular maneuver, just in general
ofc the first time you thrown down the crate the cooldown kicks in so you gotta wait before engaging
had to let off a little rant
Yeah
AT nade launcher is supposed to do a quick pop and hide
then wait or reposition
Another cheesy thing you can do is abuse the resupply station cooldown system
aka
i just destroy it and rebuild a new one
resupply to get max ammo, destroy the station and quickly rebuild it to reset the cooldown
ye
Also imo Assault get shaped charge
because Assault gets up close and personal
and Support should get the dynamite
for demolition purposes
like destroying fortifications
stationary weapons
every class should have dynamite imo
recon used to have c4
If every class had a grenade launcher of some sort for a gadget I would be happy
Yeah but that was in BF4 where recon could have carbines and shotguns
yea
Also PIAT shouldn't work like a mortar (it can aim with map)
i think every class should have an effective anti vehicle measure
Blame it on the designers
instead Support should get Recon's hand mortar rifle and have it aim with minimap
and give kampfpistole to recon maybe
It's not much of a mortar
Yeah, but it could be
PIAT is
that recon's mortar rifle could aim like PIAT
with the minimap
Sure you can have it explode at a corner but long distances won't fare well
You also have to consider the original version and how it was originally used or what it was intented for
Bazooka should hurt the user if there is an obstacle like a wall or a crate in the way of the backblast (if it doesn't already)
PIAT should be backblastless but shorter range than zooka
no
I mean the backblast
if you have your back to a wall, like inside
and shoot the zooka
you should get hurt
idc about the realism of it
or at least knocked off the feet
randomly dying from using equipment dont sound fun
MGs can overheat for not much reason
If it's just to decrease the amount of explosive spam it won't work all that well
Also lmgs don't overheat
It's just to discourage people from using bazookas from enclosed spaces
its so people cant spray 250 rounds nonstop
and use PIAT instead
of its mounted
So in that case why not use the Lewis gun
so people cant shoot infinitely
they are lasers if you're mounted
Well, 1919A6 is a wee accurate, but it's slow
and the stationaries dont have any recoil
I don't have too many issues with mmgs
Stationaries have recoil lol
We talking bout BFV?
IMO MMGs encourage too much camping
im sure the devs dont make the recoil diff for each platform
and not defending
Mostly my eyes that fuck me up but I can still fight the recoil
Cuz support class is aids in BFV
in BF1 and BF4 MGs encouraged mid-long range fire
like In BF1 u could run and gun as a support
The suppression in bf1 sucked
Yeah but you could also defend from afar
With their accuracy, stability, rate of fire and suppression
But now in BFV everyone camps with a MMG
in BFV MMGs are meant for close-mid ranges instead
which encourages camping
They aren't as accurate or stable
and do not suppress
Is that guy over the hill firing in your general direction? Well guess what you're going to be hit with sway that will fuck you up a bit
Just kamikaze that dude
Just get behind cover
As I get shot through my walls
Doesn't stop them from firing near the cover
Most Battlefield maps are designed with covers everywhere
Which still hits you with the suppression effect
i dont consider bumpy terrain cover
Yeah. And then they run out of ammo
its still quite open
and go into usually long reload time
In BFV the maps are extremely big and so many spots for camping
In comes their buddy that's also carrying an lmg
So your health crate can't help you out
And in rolls a few grenades
I'm talking about bf1's suppression
Bfv's suppression is just a little bonus
in BF1 snipers can suppress you with a single missed shot
quickly pop a single random bullet near enemy to suppress them
follow up with an accurate shot while they cannot hit anywhere near you
you kill from 1 shot because sweet spot mechanic and don't even need to aim for the head
???
profit
Depending on what rifle they're using you'll be given almost enough time to get out of dodge or tank a bullet close enough to the next house removing the worry
But yeah in BF1 you have to be a reeeaaaallly good sniper to outsnipe a good machinegunner
Not to boast, but I was expert at 'outsniping' snipers with M1917 Telescopic
I just immediately went full auto at the glint anytime it popped up
That gun drives me crazy
Some lmgs have a lot of ammunition and if fired in short bursts you can almost get out of the overheating animation
I was successful most of the time
It's so odd
lol M1917 Telescopic is my fav
I'm more scared of an m1917 than I am a sniper
I'm like how on earth do I use this thing
It's absolute total garbage when undeployed, at least on PC
@tulip wing You just go really far away
from the enemy
bf1 anyone? im alone for like 2h now lol
Even spawn is fine
Sure the sweet spot mechanic is there but you could get pretty damn lucky and some how be out of the range of it
and then deploy bipod
Oh I run in with that thing
Banzai style
Especially not Telescopic version
Should I uninstall bf1 or bfh?
MGs with scopes in BF1 are inherently less accurate than scopeless versions
..without bipod deployed no matter the bipod
Well I abuse the sweet spot mechanic as much as possible
well
Its very tough....
in BF1 putting a scope on a MG always makes it less accurate
Facts it always feels like its sliding around
You play on PC?
on consoles it is possible to actually run and gun with M1917 lol
like, without bipod
Suppressing in BFV puts a red diamond over the suppressed person's head
Hmm
It's pretty to see when in a plane and there's a friendly with an MG42 missing all of his targets and I just mop it up

Just suppression in general?
In BF1 on consoles:
people have smaller fov (at least by default)
some people don't have sound
there is auto aim
controllers are slower/more difficult to aim with
people play less Medic and more Assault
all guns have different stats - they are more accurate and have much less recoil
People play with audio?
That's why it might be more viable to shoot without the bipod deployed on consoles
Smaller fov, potential lack of sound and the clunkiness of controllers make finding/aiming at the MG gunner more difficult
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