#battlefield-legacy-titles

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sour stratus
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He's just lonely and wants to get his ego up

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🐒

prime pine
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Just don't give the rand attention, its easy

sour stratus
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Ok you are crossing the line

vale yew
prime pine
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Don't give the guy attention

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Youre just feeding him

sour stratus
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Inb4 mute

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Anyways

prime pine
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Back to drawing

sour stratus
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I'll wait to play bf5

prime pine
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Or something

sour stratus
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People saying black screens and stuff

prime pine
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Have you given the bar a try gravina

sour stratus
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I'll keep playing payback

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Eh

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Not yet

prime pine
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Not your kinda gun?

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Ah

brave coral
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black screen is probably a client side issue rather than for everyone

prime pine
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I heard theres been some issues as of late

sour stratus
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I mean whenever I play support I use the drilling

prime pine
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Wish that thing had fast reload

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Or by default had its reload quickened

sour stratus
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It had back in the beta

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Iirc

prime pine
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Yeah

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It was a forced upgrade

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In a sense they actually added a lot

vale yew
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i feel like a baby with my stats

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Sirpa how much do you have hours?

prime pine
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2224 hours

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Im also known as Waygyanba

vale yew
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fuck me and i thought my 400 was much

prime pine
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Kek

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Lots of hours enjoyed

sour stratus
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I forgot how many I had

vale yew
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*250, i mistook it for cs

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my most hour game of all time is garrys mod and i just recently hit 2k there

prime pine
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Thats actually quite wholesome

vale yew
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what?

prime pine
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Playing gmod for a long time

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I've seen lots of videos on it

sour stratus
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Huh?

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Gmod?

vale yew
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Yea, its one of my favourite games of all time

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but you can't realy call it one game

prime pine
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Its a sandbox

vale yew
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since every other server is a different game

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haha

sour stratus
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I know that but why you bring it up

prime pine
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Cause he had 2 k hours on gmod

sour stratus
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Oh

prime pine
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I have 2 k on bf5

sour stratus
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3k hours on team fortress 2

vale yew
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bf1?

sour stratus
prime pine
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On bf1? Uhhh

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Reckon I have 500

sour stratus
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100h in 5

prime pine
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Get more hours boy angery

eager shore
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I have about 660 hours in Battlefield V, and that's considered a lot by my standards, heh. Got IRL and other games to play too.

vale yew
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Reckon I have 500
@prime pine

my clock is at 300

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3k hours on team fortress 2
@sour stratus

i have 0.5k

prime pine
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Ahh

bright anvil
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hi

merry bane
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Oof

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There is only 1 Battlefield Hardline Conquest server that has 10 - None slots full

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56/64

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Custom server

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Only one map is used

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The City map I call it

coral fiber
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😭😭😭

prime pine
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What the fuck

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I

coral fiber
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IM SO FUCKING CONFUSED

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WUBSHEBXXBS

prime pine
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That was a good shot but fuck

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I FEEL YOU

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Dude

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Last year I got in my 88c

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Then

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Out of nowhere i got hit by a stray piat

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Note i spawned on a flag runway on hamada

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So as I was flying to d

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Just... ba,

coral fiber
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Lol I've done a stray piat shot before on Twisted

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I literally shot randomly in the sky and somehow managed to kill someone

prime pine
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You just wonder

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"Huh?"

coral fiber
eager shore
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Reminds me of those beginning-of-match grenade tosses in Call of Duty, in the little I've played of it anyway.

prime pine
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Ohhh yeahhh saw that

hoary condor
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install bfv... might remove it already haHAA

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removed haHAA

keen topaz
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Anybody trynna to join an rp

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Dedicated and long term

wheat willow
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no

uneven hollow
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They probably have your people

keen topaz
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Oh ok

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Thank you

wheat willow
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Noice

prime pine
sand crest
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Epic. XD

eternal breach
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LOL!

wheat willow
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oof that's gotta hurt

tough fable
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battlefield 4 became shit

wheat willow
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How so?

solid hinge
uneven hollow
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New spec for a new bf gun

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Self heal via nuggies

eternal breach
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Ammo for the sniper

gray glade
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@uneven hollow let's hope the first shot doesn't recoil that rifle so much that the dip flies into your eyes

rough pecan
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Anyone wanna squad up in bf4

gray glade
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!!lfg

ruby trailBOT
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uneven hollow
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Just open your mouth when you shoot

sour stratus
uneven hollow
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Good thing it ain’t ranch tho or any white sauce

solid hinge
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i want those nuggets

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would take nuggets as a gadget over firecrackers

civic stone
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I miss bf1. It's just really nice game

sour stratus
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then play it

solid hinge
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play the war stories

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since thats all u can really do

gray saffron
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Or don't. Maybe stuff you forgot about due rose tinted glasses might popup again. Like nade spam, bullet spongey elites, bullet deviation, no one wanted to revive due due it does not matter for conquest, fao fortress.

solid hinge
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i tried to go back to it recently, only was one half full server and it wasnt even fun

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nothing but recons on opposite sides of the map trying to do epic gamer shots

gray glade
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bf1 is the only battlefield game where I've pleaded with entire servers, "please stop spamming"

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like you'd see 2-3 ppl literally do nothing but spam into the same area

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on both teams

solid hinge
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when it was active, i would throw down crates in hopes my team would spam the enemy team spamming us

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didnt help push through, just resulted in nonstop spam

gray glade
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yea

gray saffron
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You enabled the spam addicts xd

solid hinge
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i did

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im like captain price in mw2, fighting fire with fire

gray saffron
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i dun care about cod, but price was the best character in the series ever

solid hinge
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price: "oh russians invaded america, let me just nuke D.C lol"

sour stratus
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human common sense

sturdy heron
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price: "oh russians invaded america, let me just nuke D.C lol"
@solid hinge
Nuke ISS.

regal hamlet
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so in bf4 is there any built in penalty to using barrel attachments, like a stubby or potato grip, that dont describe any negatives

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I've heard a lot of people say they run some weapons with no barrel attachments but I cant see why

sour stratus
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I don't think so

solid hinge
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What's you favorite battlefield game guys?

gray glade
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always the latest

tall frost
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1

scenic beacon
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V and Hardline

solid hinge
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Yeah I'd say battlefield 1 or 4

sturdy heron
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Imo 3 and 4.

sour stratus
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5 and 3

gray glade
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if i go by which i think is the best battlefield so far it's probably bf4

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but once there is a new game i always play that one

solid hinge
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yeah 4 is really great. Love the maps

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So much customization in bf4

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I hate the revive system in battlefield v

scenic beacon
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i like it quite a bit, it means medics don't always ditch their revive tools, and i really appreciate the squad ones

queen canopy
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Squad revives are so nice

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I prefer animations to magic needles at this point tbh

scenic beacon
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same

eternal breach
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I like how you revived in BF4, in BF5 it takes seconds

solid hinge
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I guess. It seemed like the revive system in bf1 was really quick tho

queen canopy
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Revive system in both 4 and 1 is pretty snappy

solid hinge
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Yeah

queen canopy
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But it just feels kinda stupid now

scenic beacon
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the system in v brings some interactivity to what was always a defib or a syringe just at the air in the general direction of the lad. i liked 4 and 1, just not how it worked always

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v also makes ballsy medics have to weigh the risks for once

solid hinge
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true

brave coral
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it’s still plenty quick for medics which i like, just not an instant click + go thing

queen canopy
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It’s still very fast

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You can get one off in a pinch, it’s just enough time to require you to think about it though

brave coral
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it does being a bit more risk/thought into it, you can’t just rush into a room and revive the guy on the floor before dealing with the three machine guns

scenic beacon
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it's real fast, but you have to watch yourself

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yep

solid hinge
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yes

sturdy heron
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Probably make defibs animation more real.

uneven hollow
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Just throw smoke times x100

sturdy heron
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The animation.

queen canopy
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I hope they stay in BF6, whenever that may be

sturdy heron
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Modern setting.

uneven hollow
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They can’t see through heavy thiccccc smok

solid hinge
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I hope BF6 is similar to Rising Storm 2

uneven hollow
scenic beacon
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i do like that the revive tool isn't a gadget that can be ditched for frag launchers

brave coral
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i feel medic revive animations will stay, as will squad revives

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personally at least

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also yeah stuff like that should kinda be inherent to the class

uneven hollow
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Squad revives are noice

scenic beacon
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squad revive is probs one of my fav features. stupid risky without support, but feels like it should have always been a part of bf

eternal breach
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You know the mortar strike in bad company 2? they need to bring that back

queen canopy
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Squad revives are really impractical....but at the same time it’s such a nice QoL change

brave coral
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nah they’re good for getting out of a pinch and brining back a dead squadmate while on a flank or just if there’s no medics around

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you just have to clear the area first, more so than for medics

scenic beacon
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it lessens the need to always have the one guy be forced to run medic, brings some degree of flexibility to squad composition

brave coral
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it’s not always the best option but it’s an option which is good

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don’t see them removing it

solid hinge
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squad revive is one of the best things added

scenic beacon
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amen

solid hinge
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makes more synergy between squads

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and alleviates the pain of medics running straight pass u,

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or tea bagging u then running off

sturdy heron
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Is commander great?

solid hinge
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lol

sturdy heron
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The commander from BF4.

brave coral
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honestly V brought a lot of things to the table mechanics-wise that get ignored because “nOt A rEaL wW2 GaMe” lol

scenic beacon
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no, since it's literally the squad reinforcements part of v tied to just one random lad

eternal breach
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Not great the commander in BF4

scenic beacon
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@brave coral preach, brother

solid hinge
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dont like the idea of someone with god vision helping a team win

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Well bfv is probably one of the worst battlefield games

scenic beacon
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hell no it isnt

sturdy heron
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yeah

brave coral
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squad revives, making class roles inherent through locking certain types of gadgets/removing them from being gadgets, big improvements to movement/traversal

uneven hollow
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I mean take the good from the and and bad from the good

scenic beacon
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it's got some of the best gameplay i've seen out of a bf game, feels WAY less spammy

brave coral
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fortifications are cool, personally i think they had the right idea with attrition (not perfect execution though)

eternal breach
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Also you know the bomber plane in BF4? it sucks they should made the bomber plane like a gunship

solid hinge
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in terms of what makes a battlefield game battlefield, 1 and hardline would be the worst battlefield games, not 5

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They stopped supporting

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not saying hardline bad ho

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it

scenic beacon
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the movement is so slick

brave coral
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gunplay is far better than 1 and earlier games

solid hinge
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No way battlefield 1 is probably their best or 4

sour stratus
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Yup

brave coral
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bro they stopped supporting every battlefield game. get an actual point lol

sour stratus
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best/worst games is a subjective topic

solid hinge
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Atleast they took some risk with battlefield 1. WW1 is an interesting setting'

sour stratus
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we can't come to a full agreement

solid hinge
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ood

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oof

scenic beacon
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bf1 had glaring gameplay issues with weird and bad gunplay, obvious balancing issues, explosive spam out the ass, and jank movement with a lot of things to get stuck on

echo turtle
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WW1 was barely touched AAA wise

solid hinge
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wait what platform do you guys play on?

brave coral
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ps4

sour stratus
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Ps4GWsetmyxPeepoSad

scenic beacon
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xbox and pc

echo turtle
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Box

solid hinge
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ok

eternal breach
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PS4

solid hinge
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punkstation 4

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I hope they do another interesting setting for the next game

echo turtle
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Crusades

solid hinge
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yeah lol

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That would be crazy

echo turtle
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With gauss rifles

solid hinge
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lol

eternal breach
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Back in hardline collecting money by driving around in the map is ridiculous

scenic beacon
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bfv was a case of good ideas and bad executions, but i think they got enough right to stick some new features to the franchise as a whole, and i'm excited to see what comes next spawning from those features. setting doesn't matter to me as much as playability, but i feel a lot can transfer from v to any era

brave coral
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yeah

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it’s generally pretty universal mechanics

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the only thing that was added that would need some significant changes i imagine is fortifications?

solid hinge
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I don't think we need another modern setting. BF4 still has a good playerbase.

brave coral
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and honestly even then it’s mostly just a design perspective thing with choosing what you can actually build

scenic beacon
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fortifications for sure, but i'd be okay with it being a support only thing with emplacements and stuff

brave coral
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bf4 only has a playerbase because it’s the last modern title tbh

eternal breach
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People need modern battlefield I was getting tired of the WW battlefield

scenic beacon
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and since mortars got shat on so much, i see them more as a fortification on an objective, would give some more value than just vehicle spawns

solid hinge
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Yeah no more WW battlefield for a while

brave coral
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bf6 is very likely to be modern i think, and if it is bf4 will probably see a sharp drop in players honestly

solid hinge
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nooooooooooo

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yes

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fuck 4

brave coral
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i mean there’s not exactly any other world wars they could base it on lol

solid hinge
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true

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Korean War? Vietnam?

brave coral
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they could still do historical

scenic beacon
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i would like to see more tactical value to objectives other than vehicle spawns and high ground though, it's always been a pet peeve of mine

echo turtle
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Vietnam might not work due to vehicles

eternal breach
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I know other fans want modern battlefield right now and I’m sure others wants to see a sequel of battlefield 2142.

solid hinge
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battlefield 2143 would be cool if it was similar to titanfall 2

scenic beacon
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oh a 2142 sequel would be DOPE

solid hinge
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yeah

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Imagine all the mechs

dim rampart
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They're not gonna do vietnam war unless we get a full fledged cold war game

brave coral
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but i think for the new gen of consoles, modern is a very safe choice. a lot of people have been asking for it, it’s a somewhat more... accessible(?) setting (or potentially more appealing to CoD fans as an example)

dim rampart
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the setting is just too limited

brave coral
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vietnam wouldn’t work as a stand-alone i agree

solid hinge
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We don't need more Cod fans in battlefield lol

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agreed, nam would only work as an expansion

dim rampart
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ah yes, cold war a conflict created by treyarch lol

solid hinge
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A lot of them joined from Battlefield 1 already

echo turtle
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Doesn't hurt

dim rampart
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completely fictional

brave coral
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cold war (potentially gone hot) could work with the various skirmishes and proxy wars and have a fictional bit where it really kicks off into all-out war

scenic beacon
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it's better to keep armchair historians out of games, as proven by V. modern is the safest bet

brave coral
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yeah

solid hinge
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meh

brave coral
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modern or definitive alt-history

solid hinge
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Or crusades lol

dim rampart
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ok, let's guess the title

solid hinge
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That would be crazy lol

brave coral
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nothing pre-1914 would work as a battlefield game

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i mean you’ve hardly got the shooter part of fps

dim rampart
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Battlefield 30 (modern warfare game taking place 9 years away)

solid hinge
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i wouldnt mind a modern day misaki bio gaem

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What if it was similar to mordhau tho?

dim rampart
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Battlefield Gone Hot (Cold war game)

brave coral
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not saying it doesn’t work as a game, saying it doesn’t work as a battlefield game

dim rampart
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Battlefield 6 just won't cut it

brave coral
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like that would rightfully get shat on honestly

dim rampart
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i hope they don't call it bf6 tbh

solid hinge
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i personally wouldnt enjoy cold war, even if it is gone hot

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it just gonna come down to us vs russia, again

brave coral
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crusades is also especially a bit of an awkward setting

solid hinge
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tired of that

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But it would be boring if they kept doing modern. There's already so many modern games from other franchises like cod out there

brave coral
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for one it’s a lot of sieges, but also y’know. connotations

solid hinge
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modern is whats fun and it sells

brave coral
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especially with Gamers

dim rampart
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Battlefield 0 is an insanely good name if they go medieval, i hope it doesn't happen but i'd be a good title

solid hinge
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lol medieval battlefield

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Battlefield civil war

dim rampart
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thinking about it, why didn't they call battlefield v Battlefield II, so it's easier to understand it's a continuation of bf1 and a ww2 game

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missed opurtonity

brave coral
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honestly a battlefield-style/scale game in a medieval setting could actually be low-key really cool

solid hinge
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yeah it would

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if they did it as a spinoff

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raiding castles

brave coral
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but as a main franchise title it would go badly

solid hinge
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swimming through motes

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they should do it as a spinoff

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with alligators in them

brave coral
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basically for a similar reason to hardline being unpopular

scenic beacon
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a battlefield budget game with battlefield sound design could work, just not as battlefield

dim rampart
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if they do it's going to be a separate title like battlefront made by another studio

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Desperate Grounds

brave coral
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@dim rampart battlefield 2 already exists

dim rampart
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like that name?

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yeah i know, that's why it's in greek numbers

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as in World War II

brave coral
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those are latin numerals lol

solid hinge
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Battlefield civil war could maybe work lol

dim rampart
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fuck

brave coral
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the title really doesn’t matter that much though i feel

dim rampart
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it doesn't but having a good one don't hurt

brave coral
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especially when it’s like numbers

solid hinge
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It would be pretty similar to red dead redemption 2 tho in terms of gameplay and weapons

brave coral
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like most of the “main series” games basically just use a weirdly ordered numbering system

dim rampart
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can you imagine if they do a cold war game though?

solid hinge
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yeah

dim rampart
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like in 2021 they release it, cod would be killed yet again

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it's 2016 part 2

solid hinge
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Except COD just did it

brave coral
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and although it doesn’t matter ultimately i also think they wouldn’t do battlefield: [word] like hardline because hardline didn’t do so hot

dim rampart
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that's why

solid hinge
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battlefield heros reboot

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no

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in tf2 style

dim rampart
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if they do justice to the setting, it's going to be huge for battlefield since cod butchers the setting quite a lot

brave coral
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if bf6 did happen to be cold war it wouldn’t be directly/intentionally copying bocw

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although it would be unfortunate and people would likely see it that way

dim rampart
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they're not gonna name it bf6, no way

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i hope they dont

echo turtle
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It would be calling it black ops 1

brave coral
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honestly that said there’s probably communication between the studios

solid hinge
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i wouldnt mind bf6

dim rampart
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battlefield dark ops?

brave coral
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yeah there’s nothing wrong with battlefield 6 as a title lol

solid hinge
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I hope the next battlefield is similar to rising storm 2

dim rampart
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lmao, actually don't

brave coral
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“dark ops” sounds shit lol

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no offence

solid hinge
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yeah it sounds bad lol

dim rampart
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nah, they fucked the historical continuety of the titles by naming ww2 game bfv

brave coral
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like the phantom forces of black ops

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bruh i think you’re reading into this too much

dim rampart
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Battlefield HARDLINE is such a wasted title tbh

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it's so much bettter for a cold war game

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imo

solid hinge
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yeah why did they do a cops vs robbers game.

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its always funny when someone says bruh

brave coral
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it’s an interesting concept and honestly wasn’t a bad game by any means. just wasn’t that popular because people didn’t feel it was fitting of the battlefield title

dim rampart
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gimme a sec i'm thinking of another title

brave coral
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which i definitely see the idea behind

solid hinge
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Yeah I played it a couple of times and thought it was decent

brave coral
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it’s missing some very typical elements of battlefield games

dim rampart
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we could've a way better out of the normal battlefield title... but we got cop vs robbers

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remember that

brave coral
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because with a law enforcement setting you just can’t have that scale

solid hinge
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yeah

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it would probably be controversial if it was released this year lol

brave coral
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yeah it’s not aged amazingly lol

dim rampart
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another setting that doesn't make much sense for battlefield but would be great in place of hardline would've been really far future

scenic beacon
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@dim rampart it wasn't made by dice, it was basically filler between 4 and 1 to keep us busy anyways

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and we got bf1 like the next year

dim rampart
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idk, maybe battlefield but it's set in a post apocalyptic setting

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something cool like that

solid hinge
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yeah that would be cool

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Just please no modern or WW game. There's so many of those games already on the market.

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then what else

dim rampart
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no, with battlefield it's different

solid hinge
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other than historical, modern, or future

dim rampart
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since battlefield covers air, land and sea of wars

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where other titles just ground combat

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it's not going to be just another shooter if they do modern

solid hinge
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ok cold warish alternative history game

dim rampart
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cold war feels like they're not gonna do it at least this next title

brave coral
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there’s not really a battlefield level modern game on the market at the moment though

dim rampart
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but the title coming after it?

solid hinge
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I do miss helicopters

dim rampart
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feels logical

scenic beacon
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i mean we just have to choose between: past, present, future. not a lot else if we ground it in this reality lmfao

brave coral
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yeah lol

dim rampart
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or maybe futuristic?

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but cold war is coming this decade at least

solid hinge
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yes please

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this reminds me when an english teacher says write about your summer vacation, but the kids over complicate it

brave coral
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futuristic you have to be careful with now since infinite warfare gave it a bit of a bad rep

uneven hollow
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Alternative time line

dim rampart
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yeah, i'm craving some futuristic battlefield ngl

scenic beacon
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and titanfall gave it a good rep. you just have to choose who you take influence from

brave coral
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because obviously if a game is set further into the future it has to be exactly like IW lol

solid hinge
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titanfall 2 is one of the best games tbh

dim rampart
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but it just won't feel right to have the next game be that

brave coral
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yeah i’m just saying on a general scale Tea

dim rampart
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since a modern setting hasn't been done by dice in what feels like a decade already

uneven hollow
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Future ww1

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Battlefield 2115 and 2116

brave coral
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people see “far future setting” and start ranting about IW (which tbh i’m still not sure what people didn’t like about it)

scenic beacon
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besides it being the same cod formula lol

dim rampart
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it was about people being generally tired of the same futuristic games being pumped out by studios in a short span of time

solid hinge
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i just think that cod ran futuristic into the ground by doing it game after game after game after game

dim rampart
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it was a fresh breath of air when battlefield went all the way back to ww1

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ww2? ok, but ww1? nobody was expecting that

solid hinge
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just like battlefield did modern after modern after modern for a while back

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Yeah WW1 was unexpected

uneven hollow
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Cowboy times will be pretty pogger

solid hinge
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yes lol

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red dead redemption 2 ftw

uneven hollow
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It’ll be like hardline

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But cowboy times

dim rampart
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not really, it'll be like hardline but with a lot of bf1 weaponry

uneven hollow
#

Introduce heist in it

dim rampart
#

we have enough games set in 1910's for a decade at least

solid hinge
#

yeah lol

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we do?

dim rampart
#

battlefield at least

solid hinge
#

or battlefield civil war could potentially work if they execute it right

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would be boring

dim rampart
#

battlefield civil war won't really be a battlefield game if they do civil war right.

solid hinge
#

tally ho lads can only be so fun for so long

dim rampart
#

battlefield ww1 is a good battlefield game because it's not ww1 at all

dire elbow
#

the civil war wouldnt work with the battlefield style ngl

dim rampart
#

bf1 is a modern war with a thick coat of ww1 paint

dire elbow
#

yeah

dim rampart
#

that's why it works

solid hinge
#

idk

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im pretty sure ww1 was hella gritty and bloody

dire elbow
#

it would be basically impossible for them to do civil war right

brave coral
#

that’s a very good analogy honestly

#

civil war just wouldn’t work

solid hinge
#

aw

dim rampart
#

it was, but how ww1 was fought was really slow

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thousands of men dying for a few miles a month

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just hellish

brave coral
#

ww1 you can get away with man-portable automatic weapons because they were starting to be produced in some capacity

dim rampart
#

ww2 was nothing like that

scenic beacon
#

you would do nothing but sit in a hole for 3 days then just go over the top and get immediately shot lol

dim rampart
#

tanks changed how wars were fought significantly

brave coral
#

anything earlier than that it’s all semi auto at the absolute best

dim rampart
#

good tanks that is

brave coral
#

very epic, everyone using 2rpm muskets

solid hinge
#

64 people line up and take 10 paces

dim rampart
#

yeah, it's not gonna be really arcadey when you have muskets

solid hinge
#

thats the whole game

dim rampart
#

and only muskets

solid hinge
#

hey isn't there a civil war game?

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on steam

dim rampart
#

there are plenty, and they are mil sim for a reason

brave coral
#

for a typical mainstream shooter you basically need arcade RoFs

dim rampart
#

better keep it that way

#

as i said, battlefield works best when you can apply (setting) paint and make it play like a modern war

brave coral
#

ww1 is the absolute limit of how early you can go before basically needing to be milsim because it just doesn’t work with typical arcade-y shooter styles

solid hinge
#

the prob with your analogy is

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modern war isnt all fast and stuff

#

its mostly sitting on your ass

#

yeah

brave coral
#

@solid hinge more like a modern war game

dim rampart
#

every war was really

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that never changed

brave coral
#

yeah war is literally just sitting on your ass for three weeks until someone comes knocking for you

solid hinge
#

the soldiers out in the middle east rn is sitting around meming their ass off and eating crayons

uneven hollow
#

Something wrong about eating crayons

dim rampart
#

when i say modern war, i mean mostly about the quality of the gear a war is fought with, like planes tanks and weapons

brave coral
#

basically - you get a mix of weapon styles, stick some era-appropriate skins and names on them, call your maps after some french shit and you’ve got a world war arcade shooter lol

dim rampart
#

hell yes

solid hinge
#

i also learned, that red crayons taste the best

brave coral
#

mm strawberry

solid hinge
#

source: guy in the marines

scenic beacon
#

i'm quite partial to dark green

solid hinge
#

its so fun getting in a greyhound and destroying tigers

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coming up from behind and sinking 3 armor piercing rounds into their rear while driving in circles around them

minor mountain
#

Where do I go to edit my Porträt

#

And emblem

#

BF4

scenic beacon
#

Battlelog

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i believe at least

solid hinge
#

Where do I go to edit my Porträt
@minor mountain Battlelog.
And emblem
@minor mountain Battlelog.
BF4
@minor mountain Battlelog.

tall frost
#

And Battlelog

solid hinge
#

how do you get the tapered part headgear

vivid siren
#

Battlefield: Vietnam War
thatd be cool

brave coral
#

@solid hinge i thought it was unlocked for everyone tbh. if not, you should be able to buy it with CC from the company screen in the main menu?

solid hinge
#

Battlefield: Vietnam War
thatd be cool
@vivid siren bad company 2 vietnam dlc GWcorbinTopKek

wheat willow
sturdy heron
#

@solid hinge Battlefield 4 took place in 2020.

queen canopy
#

I mean there’s not much to do with it is there?

vivid siren
#

@vivid siren bad company 2 vietnam dlc :GWcorbinTopKek:
@solid hinge woah i havent played bad company

#

im 15

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bf4 has changed my life lmao

bronze rose
#

any news?

brave coral
#

put it this way, i think you’ll hear if there’s any news lol

solid hinge
#

No news

#

Come back later for no news

dire elbow
#

how do i get warbonds in vf1

#

bf1

bronze rose
#

level up

finite gull
#

Anyone remember that time when Pewds played BF1?

random charm
#

Oh yeah

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I remember that vid

solid hinge
#

shovel.mov

#

that video was funny as hell tbh

random charm
#

😔 👌

finite gull
#

FILTHY GERMAN

random charm
#

He was having fun with the shovel doe

solid hinge
#

he is a fellow shovel knight

#

a serrated shovel better be in next game as a melee weapon

finite gull
solid hinge
#

satisfying bonk

random charm
#

Ngl the takedowns for the shovel are satisfying as hell

solid hinge
#

sometimes i wish there was no takedown animations

#

just hit twice then dead

random charm
#

imagine hitting the enemy in the crotch

#

I'm surprised BF1 Asian servers aren't that populated anymore

scenic beacon
#

well to be fair bf1 isn't the most recent bf game

random charm
#

Ik

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It just surprises me

obsidian lance
#

A

random charm
#

I mean Battlefield 4 is still populated but not Battlefield 1

#

Correction, BF1 is kind of populated and that made me wonder. "Is Battlefield 1 still relevant?"

solid hinge
#

cause 4 is better than 1

random charm
#

Eh

solid hinge
#

It's really a matter of opinion tbh

#

bf1 objectively has shittier gameplay

#

I mean bf4 is modern and bf1 is ww1 so you can't really say which one is better

random charm
#

True that

solid hinge
#

u can

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Unless you say attention to detail the bf1 has the upper hand cuz it's newer

random charm
#

I prefer a more older aesthetic and that's why I like BF1

solid hinge
#

But regardless, imo I think bf4 is better cuz it's modern and I like modern but that's an opinions

random charm
#

It's a shame the servers aren't that populated anymore

#

Yeah just based on our preference

solid hinge
#

What I am waiting for really is bf6

#

you do know you can judge games by their gameplay and game design and not just their era and graphics right

#

I'm just about to jump out of my chair just cuz of the waitLULW

bronze rose
#

Battlefield 4 aged terribly

solid hinge
#

@solid hinge yes I do know that but still in general of which game eu like more is an opinion

random charm
#

I mean I'm more into the 1900s world aesthetic. But that doesn't mean I don't play other Battlefield games

#

It's just opinion alright

bronze rose
#

The server system of that game is dog shit, all the dlc maps are mostly dead and every time I try to queue up for a match it would just throw me in a 24/7 map server

solid hinge
#

the original statement wasnt about opinions, it was about why bf1 is more dead than 4 despite being newer

#

i just gave an honest answer

bronze rose
#

The levelution was cool but it became a stale gimick in the end, and then all the classes had automatic weapons so it made it pointless to go any class for tactical reasons when every class does the same thing.

#

Battlefield 1 shouldn't be

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sadly

#

I like the class system the newer games have, it brings back the squad cohesion that was battlefields core mechanics from the o.g games

solid hinge
#

Just hope bf6 will be good, regardless of what it is

bronze rose
#

128 player lobbies and more vertical maps

#

Battlefield isn't daring enough

random charm
#

I hope that BF6 will be available in current gen consoles

solid hinge
#

i dont think they will

#

next gen will already be out for a couple years when bf7 comes out

#

@random charm for sure it will be

bronze rose
#

It needs to push the limits of the norm, meaning ditched the 64v64 player matches

solid hinge
#

and it seems current gen dont have the technology for it

#

I hardly doubt it won't

random charm
#

:)

bronze rose
#

It won't be on current gen

solid hinge
#

Probably^

random charm
#

Although it could be a possibility

bronze rose
#

I hope it doesn't either, it would be held back

solid hinge
#

yea

#

Just like bf4

#

when a game comes out, the devs have to release it in state it is playable on all the platforms its gonna be on

bronze rose
#

Battlefield has to be more than it is now. Modern Warfare as much as I don't like it was a breathe of fresh air for the series.

solid hinge
#

bf4 didnt come out on ps4 then go backwards

random charm
#

Well if it isn't then might as well stick to older entries

solid hinge
#

or xbone then go back to 360

#

they were already on the current gen and got ported

#

at the time

bronze rose
#

If it is a modern setting, which I am now okay with, should center around more vertical gameplay and ehnaced destruction physics along with more players

#

It could also be 50v50 with 50 ai additionally on each team

#

making it to a 100v100

#

Shit like that would be great because battlefield 1's maps allowed for the sound design of players to create the atmosphere battlefield v lacks

#

at least to me it lacked that

digital seal
#

I highly doubt BF6 will be on Xbox One and PS4... That hardware would be a detriment to what the devs could do. The next gen will have been out for a year when BF6 comes out so they'll have time to optimize and work out the issues

random charm
#

Well shit

#

Then guess I'll have to move to next gen consoles

tough lodge
#

@digital seal they might be avoiding what happened to bf4

#

It was sandwiched between old and newer gen console

digital seal
#

@digital seal they might be avoiding what happened to bf4
exactly

#

I just @ myself... smh

solid hinge
#

thats prob part of the reason it gonna be a longer wait this time around

tough lodge
#

There might be also a shit ton of frostbite features that older gen cant handle anymore

#

Especially the new destruction system they teased in EA Play

digital seal
#

I guess we'll all have to find out. I'm sure BF6 is gonna be great, whatever it turns out to be.

random charm
#

Quick question, when is the PS5 scheduled to be released again?

solid hinge
#

soon

tough lodge
#

Next month i think

echo turtle
#

12th November

tough lodge
digital seal
#

!!when

ruby trailBOT
#

Soon™

bronze rose
#

all i know is that it needs to be bolder

random charm
#

So 12th November for North America, Australia, South Korea, New Zealand, Japan, and Singapore

bronze rose
#

also character customisation should remain

tough lodge
#

I really dont want another Battle Royale for BF6

random charm
#

And 19th November for the rest of the world?

tough lodge
#

I never even played firestorm

bronze rose
#

firestorm should be free to play smh

tough lodge
#

Not a single match

bronze rose
#

but i agree no new br

tough lodge
#

Should have been*

#

It's too late to make it free right now

#

There's like only 1 guy working ob BFV right now

bronze rose
#

it needs to focus on grander battles both small and big on maps that cater to that

solid hinge
#

if they do br which they prob will, they need to manage it better

echo turtle
#

It's a skeleton

random charm
#

Although firestorm had an interesting concept

vivid oyster
#

hey, does anyone know if there are any bf1 lobbies on pc that isn't filled with modders

random charm
#

Execution was poor

tough lodge
#

Here's my take

random charm
#

@vivid oyster Nope sorry

tough lodge
#

Operations should now be a main game mode of future BF titles

echo turtle
#

If they give br another go whatever

bronze rose
#

seine crossing and metro on rush are excellent examples of what bf6 could be like

vivid oyster
#

blegh

tough lodge
#

Also, make it have dynamic objectives

random charm
#

Agree

#

Operations was the good shit back then

echo turtle
#

If it doesn't hurt the development of the multiplayer I'm cool with another br

random charm
#

V didn't had the same feeling as operations from 1

echo turtle
#

Something to poke and laugh at

tough lodge
#

Imagine if criterion helped on the main game instead of a battle royale

#

We could have gotten italy last june as a chapter

random charm
#

And even if they had a BR mode at least make it free

#

Because who would want to spend money on a DLC that adds battle royale

echo turtle
#

With how long it took them to get the Pacific in? Probably not

#

Not sure about how they developed the chapters but it feels like they were going by the seam of their pants

bronze rose
#

Pacific was fun but it needed more depth

random charm
#

Imagine if they launched pacific first

solid hinge
#

pacific fine to me

#

i just hate how brutal the planes are

bronze rose
#

In Battlefield 1 today, the matches still feel like you are in world war 1

echo turtle
#

Er

random charm
#

V didn't had that much of a WW2 aesthetic when it first launched

echo turtle
#

I wasn't stuck in a trench for hours on end during my time

random charm
#

Although props to DICE for adding accurate uniforms late on its development

bronze rose
#

What made the atmosphere great was the insane amount of explosions and yelling and whistles

#

People hate how much bomb spam was an issue in bf1 but I play Hell Let Loose and that is there too.

#

That shit is fun

#

and makes one feel immersed

solid hinge
#

i looked at hell let loose on youtube and it seems actually rather slow paced

#

with not much happening

#

just people army crawling for 10 min

random charm
#

Isn't HLL focused on realism?

bronze rose
#

Yep, but the atmosphere is there

echo turtle
#

Isn't it also ww2

bronze rose
#

Battlefield 1 had that atmosphere

#

the theatre doesn't matter here, the sound design does

random charm
#

I really do hope BF6 is focused on a modern setting

mighty sedge
#

Or a cold war setting

random charm
#

Shit when was the last time we had a cold war themed Battlefield game?

mighty sedge
#

Never.

random charm
#

Although we had Vietnam and it was set during the cold war

bronze rose
#

I want a stand alone battlefield game

#

in vietnam

tall frost
#

Dude

#

guys

mighty sedge
#

It would be awesome. Battlefield Cold Betrayal.

bronze rose
#

Not an expansion

mighty sedge
#

That would be a good name

tall frost
#

DICE really can’t try new ideas right now

#

They are under severe pressure

mighty sedge
#

True.

tall frost
#

They have to develop something they are already had experience with

mighty sedge
#

Well a modern setting was done in BF4. And that game was awesome

tall frost
#

Like Modern era

#

It is something they know how to do

#

They can’t make new ideas with all the pressure

bronze rose
#

yeah but a cut and paste game to be like bf4 would be boring

tall frost
#

If BF6 succeeds then DICE can relax and make new ideas

mighty sedge
#

Idk. I would love a new setting. But BF5 did fail pretty bad.

tall frost
#

Yeah

random charm
#

Same

tall frost
#

Because DICE didn’t cover WW2 correctly

solid hinge
#

the devs working there now likely werent working there when bf4 was made, so idk if they should rely on "experience"

tall frost
#

Womenwhat what

mighty sedge
#

Idk. I feel they can really improve anything after BF5

bronze rose
#

people are seriuously blaiming women for that

echo turtle
#

Yes

tall frost
#

I mean...

#

Yes

mighty sedge
#

But they should have had good wars from WW2 in BF5 for it to succeed.

echo turtle
#

They still are, almost two years later

tall frost
#

That is part of the problem

random charm
#

To be fair, the USSR did had female soldiers

tall frost
#

Yup it did

#

But in total

random charm
#

But countries like the UK and France didn't

tall frost
#

5% of WW2 was women

#

BFV treated it like more than that

random charm
#

If you don't count the French resistance

tall frost
#

40 or 50%

mighty sedge
#

Man I don't know why everyone cares what gender the person is. Their a person, they could be a helicopter for all I care!

bronze rose
#

I want the next game to have women

#

because who fucking cares

echo turtle
#

Give us furries in the next game

scenic beacon
#

you should see the milsim crowd, maybe 1 in 10 don't care

mighty sedge
#

XD

bronze rose
#

the game was brought down due to lack of content, bugs, and shitty updates

echo turtle
#

There's X thing in this game so therefore bad

random charm
#

Damn the bugs are still there

mighty sedge
#

I mean dice and EA can take a little backlash from people who really cares about the gender.

bronze rose
#

I play milsims

scenic beacon
#

@mighty sedge the people who sent death threats

mighty sedge
#

Ah. I see

scenic beacon
#

dice got TONS

mighty sedge
#

Well in that case.

#

People need to lighten up.

prime pine
#

We having this talk again?

scenic beacon
#

seems to be that way

mighty sedge
#

Just make it customisable like a RPG

#

You chose the gender, color, and appearance. Everyone's happy

random charm
#

I mean Battlefield 1 had female soldiers but for the sake of realism

vivid oyster
#

Battlefield RPG: Out now.

mighty sedge
#

XD

solid hinge
#

yea we are bodie

random charm
#

DICE went overboard with BFV and added female soldiers on all of the factions

solid hinge
#

the kids cant let it go

mighty sedge
#

Maybe that would be a multiplayer thing. And the campaign will be like BF1 for realism.

echo turtle
#

Did the reveal trailer scream accuracy

mighty sedge
#

XD true.

echo turtle
#

Because what I got from it was goofy and action packed

vivid oyster
#

yo, how come the japanese flag in bfv is the modern japan flag and not the imperial one

mighty sedge
#

I never even looked at that.

solid hinge
#

oh lord

random charm
#

Didn't the Japanese used both flags back then?

#

Correct me if I'm wrong

vivid oyster
#

i mean

#

they probably did, but

#

i never seen the imperial flag once

#

in the game, at least

random charm
#

The rising sun flag right?

vivid oyster
mighty sedge
#

Hmm.

vivid oyster
#

think so, yeah

#

yeah, the rising sun flag

random charm
#

I never played V but from the gameplay vids I saw I didn't see a single one

uneven hollow
#

Ma

vivid oyster
#

imagine softening a ww2 game

#

just imagine

echo turtle
#

Ain't hard to do so

mighty sedge
#

Changed my name to a spoopy name

vivid oyster
#

happy uhh

#

battlefield pun ween

random charm
#

Only a couple more days until Halloween

vivid oyster
#

yo, what y'all gon do for halloween

random charm
#

Idk

#

I don't celebrate Halloween xd

vivid oyster
#

eh, for me it's a 50/50

random charm
#

I only join the events

#

But we don't do trick or treating here

mighty sedge
#

Dice and EA need to make the next game darker. No fan cares if it's light but if it's about war and it's happy!? Oh you pissed every one off!

vivid oyster
#

bf6 should be in the cold war

solid hinge
#

my daily is win one game and despite playing for like 2 or 3 hours now, i still havent completed it

vivid oyster
#

we got ww1, ww2, now we need the cold war

#

or hell, maybe even the korean war

mighty sedge
#

Or maybe the vietnam war.

vivid oyster
#

bro, that's it

mighty sedge
#

Vietnam in the cold war game

random charm
#

I'm fine with BF6 being in a modern setting but I'll be damn if it's set during the cold war

mighty sedge
#

That could be a war story

vivid oyster
#

BF6 Definitely needs to be set in the Korean War.

random charm
#

Shit even my friend confused BF: Vietnam for Bad Company Vietnam

vivid oyster
#

That'd be the most interesting setting to portray, imo.

random charm
#

He didn't even knew it exists

vivid oyster
#

damn

solid hinge
#

bf6 needs to be a completely fictional game and not a niche conflict

vivid oyster
#

maybe bf6 could be like

random charm
#

They did that with 2142

vivid oyster
#

what if the cold war, turned into a real war

bronze rose
#

Battlefield needs to be more theatrical

vivid oyster
#

i thought battlefield was theatrical enough

#

like, a theatrical cod. (No offending intended)

bronze rose
#

I was looking forward to the prosthetic and the tank top from the trailer

mighty sedge
#

Maybe they should redo BF5. Make it darker and more about the horrors of war.

#

Get some balls ya know

bronze rose
#

it tries to cater too much to both audiences

solid hinge
#

no, i want a new gme

random charm
#

I don't think they are gonna do that

bronze rose
#

It needs to be more bombastic

mighty sedge
#

I mean later on. If they reboot the series like BF1

sand crest
#

Korean war is in the Cold War

vivid oyster
#

eh, kinda

scenic beacon
#

look where that got them though @bronze rose, bombastic isn't good when you can't back it up in a ww2 game.

echo turtle
#

Horror game based in ww2 that focuses on some kind of bizzare experiments

bronze rose
#

Battlefield 1 was a perfect blend then, I just don't want to play as clones again

sand crest
#

As of 1953. Korea is still the last part of the cold war

vivid oyster
#

i would buy bf6 launch day if it takes place in the korean war tho

#

mixed in with like, vietnam n stuff

mighty sedge
#

Any war on the cold war would probs be a war story like BF1

bronze rose
#

Horror game based in ww2 that focuses on some kind of bizzare experiments
@echo turtle the maps were the too big

sand crest
#

BF6 needs a korean war.

solid hinge
#

why do people want korean war so bad

bronze rose
#

the pacific ones to be fair

vivid oyster
#

ikr

#

they did ww1

random charm
#

Eh

vivid oyster
#

i don't see why they can't do korean war

sand crest
#

Without the korean war. There would be no Cold War.

random charm
#

Or better yet the cold war in general

bronze rose
#

battlefield 1 claustrophobic gameplay gave it so much atmosphere

vivid oyster
#

it'd be epic to see the mountain invasion of the korean war done in a battlefield campaign or smth

sand crest
#

MMG did really well on BF5

bronze rose
#

people here for some reason hate the bomb spam of bf1 and the hate towards that let do limp dick atmosphere of v

sand crest
#

Barrel over heated too much and barrel had to be changed.

solid hinge
#

cause its bad for gameplay

vivid oyster
#

what im angry at

solid hinge
#

gameplay>atmosphere

vivid oyster
#

is bf1's pc playerbase

random charm
#

What about it?

vivid oyster
#

nothin but hackers and modders and stuffs

bronze rose
#

bomb spam wasn't bad

vivid oyster
#

it ruins the fun

random charm
#

Oh

mighty sedge
#

I mean for console it's fine

vivid oyster
#

yeah, that's why i play it on console now

random charm
#

Have you seen V's PC player base?

vivid oyster
#

but i wish i could just run it at max settings

#

and no, i haven't

bronze rose
#

battlefield is best played on console

random charm
#

Fucking modders dude

vivid oyster
#

i prefer pc, but console i have no problem with

solid hinge
#

any pc game is gonna have hackers

vivid oyster
#

yeah, but like

#

battlefield 1 is plagued with it

#

on pc

solid hinge
#

so is v

#

and cod

#

and uhhh

vivid oyster
#

i played cod waw on pc

#

it has better anti cheat than bf1

solid hinge
#

insert any pc multiplayer game*

random charm
#

And that's why I sticked to console

bronze rose
#

with a fast ttk, good vertical gameplay and a bigger match base, there is room for more atmospheric great combat

sand crest
#

WaW is the real cod for its gore. Better then MW 2019

vivid oyster
#

bruh, ikr

mighty sedge
#

Yess

sand crest
#

Yeah

random charm
#

Pretty atmospheric

vivid oyster
#

i was playing waw today

mighty sedge
#

BF5 should have had the story like WaW

vivid oyster
#

there's a server i found

sand crest
#

MW 2019 gore isn't as good

random charm
#

Even though their arsenal was pretty small

vivid oyster
#

with a heck ton of players

bronze rose
#

hll gore is great

vivid oyster
#

battlefield should have more gore

sand crest
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We need a chinese/Korean Elite in the american forces on BFV

vivid oyster
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makes it more satisfying

random charm
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I was expecting BFV to have better stories than 1, they explored the fronts that some people didn't know about in the game

sand crest
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They fought in the allies side.

bronze rose
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the game needs to be more immersive to keep audiences tied to the game

sand crest
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The third war story is the best

random charm
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Although I really like the Last Tiger

vivid oyster
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at bfv doesn't have a waw campaign

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i have grenade ptsd

solid hinge
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i personally find all 4 of v's war story better than all of bf1's war stories

random charm
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Nice to see that they explored the axis side of the war

sand crest
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Peter wanted surrender. But the playable character refused.

bronze rose
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The music of battlefield 1 was so good

vivid oyster
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ikr

mighty sedge
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I didn't even bother with the BFv war stories

random charm
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Have you listened to flight of the pidgeon?

bronze rose
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it was meh

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DAWN OF A NEW TIME

vivid oyster
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flight of the pidgeon

random charm
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And what about the end of round themes?

vivid oyster
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is so good

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i like the bf1 soundtrack during operations

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it makes it so much epic

random charm
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Like holy shit they outdone themselves with the themes

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Specifically that one for Turning Tides

vivid oyster
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m

random charm
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It was my favorite

bronze rose
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THAT WHAT I AM SAYING

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You felt that you were there

random charm
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No shit Sherlock

uneven hollow
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m should have a comeback tho in the next game

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Like as a sight

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Or something

bronze rose
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god, I miss those moments

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I miss having friends to play with. I have none on PC

random charm
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I've been there before

bronze rose
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You have titanfall 2
?

random charm
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Mhm

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Although I don't play it

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My dad does

bronze rose
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want to add me on steam

random charm
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I don't have titanfall 2 on PC rather on console but sure

bronze rose
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same as discord

random charm
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Aight

solid hinge
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bf bad company 2 is a lot better than BF3

random charm
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Never played BC2

bronze rose
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bf3 was peak

digital seal
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That's a risky statement tbh

bronze rose
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that shit was so good

eternal breach
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I miss playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 I wish they could remastered the game and add some updates in the multiplayer without messing it up.

digital seal
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BF3 is/was peak

random charm
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Ngl BF3 was pretty atmospheric when it comes to military operations

uneven hollow
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Which would be the best to play bf3 console wise or pc

bronze rose
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console for me

random charm
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Same

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I used to play it on my Xbox before it broke

bronze rose
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I like battlefield on console, i am more drawn to millsims on pc

random charm
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Comparing BF3 to BF4, BF3 was atmospheric while BF4 felt more of a copy paste for me personally

digital seal
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BF4 was an improvement of the things BF3 did right as well as additions of new QoL features

vivid oyster
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bf3 remaster

uneven hollow
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Why remaster when it can be a remake

digital seal
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Why remaster it? Game is GOLD as is

uneven hollow
vivid oyster
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bf3, but

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it has modern graphics

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the only change

random charm
vivid oyster
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Hey, I can dream, too.

digital seal
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I'd rather they just continue the storyline... Bring back maps from BF3, I'm all for it but feel a remake would be a waste of time

random charm
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Eh

vivid oyster
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maybe just a fan made remake would do

random charm
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They did add Metro to 4

vivid oyster
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i never really cared for battlefield storyline, ngl

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although i like bf3's campaign

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very good, imo

digital seal
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Venice Unleashed is kind of a "remake" refurbishing moreso

random charm
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Damn I forgot about VU

vivid oyster
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battlefield, but

scenic beacon
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apart from a tiny bit of fine-tuning and updating, bf3 really doesn't need much change to how it is rn

vivid oyster
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it takes place in the bee movie timeline

scenic beacon
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it holds up pretty well to me

vivid oyster
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and you play as the bees

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nglthatsoundslikeaprettysickideatomeok

uneven hollow
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I know a way

random charm
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How about prehistoric times?

digital seal
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Battlefield: Caveman

uneven hollow
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Battlefield 6 but it’s in between 3 and 4

vivid oyster
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Battlefield BC: Out this summer

uneven hollow
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Ngl kinda wanna see a battlefield cowboy times

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It’ll be like hardline

vivid oyster
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Battlefield The Old West: Out now.

uneven hollow
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But cowboy times

vivid oyster
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bruh, hardline is underrated

prime pine
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@uneven hollow fallpat

vivid oyster
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just like a bf4 reskin, but

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it's all caveman stuff

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the guns are made out of sticks and stones

uneven hollow
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@prime pine AngryCat

vivid oyster
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and shoot arrows

random charm
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Lmfao

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Or a Battlefield game set in medieval times

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You use the bulbonic plague as a grenade xD

vivid oyster
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LMAO

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bruh, a battlefield in the middle ages

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would be amazing

prime pine
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The fucking

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The weapon balance in hardline was sucky

vivid oyster
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yoooooooooooooo

digital seal
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Throws a bottle of plague at the enemy

vivid oyster
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battlefield taking place during the hundred years war

random charm
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Oop they ded

prime pine
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It was ultra lethal which was ok but the problem was that those weapons often outclassed others by a massive mile

uneven hollow
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Sir the enemy has yeeted a plague bottler

random charm
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Oh wait wait

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Listen here

prime pine
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M416 was a 3 hit kill within 30m

vivid oyster
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"They have taken objective Aztec."

scenic beacon
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who needs gas grenades when you have a tactical rat™️

prime pine
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850 rpm