dice generally never talk to the community
#battlefield-legacy-titles
gray glade
99% of the communication they do is information of what they are doing with the game the upcoming week
trim token
kinda
fleet kindle
Truth
shadow mantle
hey
I enabled UPnP on my router but my NAT is still showing strict on my Xbox , DM if anyone can help
shy badger
You should try #technology, btw did you try to just open the right ports before?
stray star
for some reasons i lost my BF4 game files, i could only backup those files (cas_01.cas to cas_14.cas) so can someone tell me what game folder structure for those files to just make similar one to use (locate Game) to just download the rest
wet fossil
I swear, half the flying I do on Arras is nape-of-the-earth Wild Weasel bullshit
There's always someone using AA at spawn
Largely because there are literally no AA guns on the map proper, just the mobile ones that nobody tows any further than the barley field just off the spawn road
That and damn AA tanks that never leave uncap
So I have to go in at treetop height to plant some rockets in them on a constant basis.
Now, flying that low with a Spitfire is pretty cool, but jesus let me be able to target anything else.
main grove
I’m sick of people spamming slide
Like in BF1 after patches it had several disadvantages such as the fact you couldn’t swap directions and your turn rate was slowed
But BFV sliding is a fucking joke
You can for some reason change directions as many times as you please mid slide and there’s no actual slowdown
Like it’s no question that slide spam has replaced the jump spam in BF3 and 4
wet fossil
It's the new dolphin diving
You can tell the players in excess of level 300 apart from the others because they do not walk
main grove
The thing is I don’t even see people do it when they need to
They do it randomly or
And this is especially common
After every single kill
It’s definitely instinct now
Like they can’t help but show off how skilled they are by just pressing the circle button after a kill
BF1 sliding was perfect because it was actually terrain sensitive and slowed you down to a complete stop
trail current
BATTLEFIELD V IS BEST
jagged girder
Most would disagree
gray glade
it's not a bad game, right now
jagged girder
Hands down
gray glade
but the road to get to this point was bumpy 🙂
valid rampart
All the ingredients were there, they just needed more time to let it cook
gray glade
i wish planes made noise BEFORE they bomb the shit out of you
instead of just after, when you are dead
valid rampart
Something like the jericho siren but for all planes?
tall frost
BF5 has the best planes
@jagged girder
jagged girder
yes
jagged girder
BF1 if you’re being shot at you gotta stop the whole plane to repair
tall frost
Yes but as in flight mechanics
jagged girder
As in atheistic
jagged girder
why
tall frost
There much worse than back in BF3/4
tall frost
Probably hit box issues
Oh and the controls are really easy in BF
They’re not as complex as BF3/4
jagged girder
Ive recently starts hardline multiplayer
jagged girder
Im giving my G36C a
Angled grip
Acog sight
Flashlight
Suppressor
gun with too many attachments
tall frost
That cool
tawny bramble
Acog yikes
jagged girder
In hardline can you choose which angled grip you want
Theres 2
A tan one and a black one
@tawny bramble what sight do you recommend
tawny bramble
I assume if you have then unlocked
jagged girder
2 kills away
tawny bramble
But if they're in there, the coyote and kobras are usually the best
tawny bramble
Although preference is prefence so yeh. I was shittily joking about acog btw. Idk I've seen top tier players in bf4 use it and they dominate but meh, not a sight for me
Ah yeh sick bro
jagged girder
I just use it cus its the least obnoxious
tawny bramble
Why
Dunno, didn't seem appealing at that time. I've just stuck to bf4 lmfao
devout shard
Same 😌
jagged girder
I like any game that offers a G36C
tawny bramble
I just use it cus its the least obnoxious
Hm yeh that may be true. Like I said, I only played hl for like 13 mins, so I dunno shit about the sights. Maybe they improved the acog in that, maybe not
jagged girder
its like.. got this red dot on it
tawny bramble
Lol haha. I used to love the g36c in many games, including ones outside of the battlefield franchise. But I just felt that u was losing too many fights where u clearly shot first due to its appalling 650 rpm
tawny bramble
Yeh imo acog in bf4 just purely sucks. But kudos to the ppl who play well with it
jagged girder
i prefer iron sights as opposed to acog
tawny bramble
Hmm yeh I guess it would be appealing to console players cos it would have pre low recoil
Lol yeh some iron sights on guns r surprisingly nice. Some... Not so good xd
tawny bramble
as expected
valid rampart
does anyone use the halftrack tank destroyers?
gray glade
occasionally
if im squad leader and someone else already got the tank as a squad call in
it does alot of damage
solid hinge
anyone else not receive their weekly mission reward
tropic shard
hi
gray glade
hey
cobalt stone
hi
quiet carbon
is there a way to see through smoke?
shy badger
Cheats
brave coral
sometimes you can see silhouettes through smoke a bit
but no there’s no reliable way which is the point of smoke
quiet carbon
cheats?
I mean I don't like pulling that card out a lot
would make sense but I always assume there's some sort of mechanic
brave coral
there are some people who use overlays that just highlight all their enemies through smoke and cover
but fairly often you might get killed through smoke by lucky shots/sweeping for hitmarkers
especially if it’s something automatic
quite often if i’ve got an MMG on defense i’ll just spray side to side through smoke until i get a hit marker then focus on that spot, often you can pick up some kills
shy badger
would make sense but I always assume there's some sort of mechanic
@quiet carbon There's absolutely no mechanic for that
You can of course get lucky/predict
It shouldn't spot through smoke afaik drx
brave coral
you still get hit markers so you can figure out where people are by just sweeping your bullet hose through the smoke lol
echo turtle
There's the odd person who pops smoke and doesn't move when a sniper knows where they're hanging out
brave coral
oh yeah, plenty of people will pop smoke in the line of fire of a machine gun to revive someone and be like “huh how did he kill me”
tall frost
echo turtle
They removed 3d spotting for a different reason irrc
quiet carbon
I mean
brave coral
and i don’t think the danger ping system works through smoke either
quiet carbon
at the end of the day could just be a very, very (un)lucky blind shot
brave coral
generally i think if it’s once, it was a lucky shot/using those strategies for flushing out smoked areas
shy badger
you still get hit markers so you can figure out where people are by just sweeping your bullet hose through the smoke lol
@brave coral True lol
tall frost
Usually people would just shoot a bunch of bullets into smoked areas. Or just drop a bomb
brave coral
if someone is consistently popping your head with a rifle through smoke, then it’s likely they’re doing something sketch
shy badger
I found smokes to be a really reliable tool for revives
I just plop it on top of a teammate, wait a second or two for gunfire
And if its safe I jump on him
tall frost
It’s sad how it’s the only way to revive someone “””””safely”””
shy badger
What else do you have in your mind?
brave coral
i mean... only if they’re in the open
shy badger
Deplyable shields?
tall frost
Ohhh that would be nice
brave coral
if they fall behind cover you’re as safe as you’ll ever really be
tall frost
But too op
brave coral
in fairness it could be interesting to see deployable cover
tall frost
It won’t even take long to model and apply the hit boxes
echo turtle
Give them durability and allow snipers and mmgs to pierce them
shy badger
Lol I was kind of joking about shields but I see you guys actually liked the idea xD
brave coral
i mean as a general thing it could be cool. don’t see it being a great revive tool though lol
shy badger
haha fair
Honestly a big reason why I want a futuristic title
Is because of all the opportunities for cool gadgets
quiet carbon
that moment you instantly get sniped when you're revived
shy badger
Like what if there was a mobile shield gadget
That you can shoot infront of a teammate to revive them
tall frost
Oh yeah. Medics shouldn’t use shields
Support should prob
Which could encourage team work
A support shields a small area with a wounded guy
Medic comes and revives
Teamwork
shy badger
You can also couple support shields with MMG emplacement kits
Or HMG rather
Tachanka style
tall frost
Kamikaze style
However I do wish the shields that support would use is like unique...
I don’t want it to be a copy from COD
quiet carbon
performance dropped so hard for some reason bfving
formal cradle
hello can someone help me?
quiet carbon
im gunna stick to bf4
formal cradle
i need someone at bf 1
queen canopy
BF 2042 please
Future is the way to go
Not far future, no Halo bullshit
Give me a Battlefield with the art style of CoD:IW and I will be very happy
Shit looked cool as fuck in that game
normal thunder
turk varmı tyuk
shy badger
English only here pal
novel furnace
need smd to BF1 pm
gray saffron
yeah, speak english, black
tall frost
?
kindred atlas
Hello
gray glade
Hi there
scenic beacon
heya!
kindred atlas
I will buy the BFV wanted to know about the package (Year 2 Edition)
Does it last 2 years for 33 Skins (33 Chapter 1 Year Reward items)? Or is the items Lifetime?
echo turtle
It's a catch up pack
scenic beacon
The items that are included in the year 2 bundle are permanent once you buy it.
ancient sentinel
hi
scenic beacon
@ancient sentinel hi!
kindred atlas
It's a catch up pack
@echo turtle Thx
echo turtle
You'll get pretty much everything from the past year's tides of war
kindred atlas
The items that are included in the year 2 bundle are permanent once you buy it.
@scenic beacon Okay, thx!
scenic beacon
kindred atlas
tall frost
Y’all ever just want to put the CEO of EA in a round room and tell him he has to find a corner
scenic beacon
can't say that I have?
tall frost
scenic beacon
devout shard
novel blaze
bf6 futuristic as bo2?
gray saffron
@kindred atlas just so you know, you get all the weapons and and unlocks up to and from chapter 4 (the chapter before the pacific was released) and you don't get all the cosmetics, but a slither of it. if i recall correctly, two outfits, a few vehicle skins and a whole bunch of weapon skins
scenic beacon
@novel blaze we don't know yet lol, all we can do at this point is speculate
nothing shown about it yet
gray saffron
BATTLEFIELD: HALF-LIFE 3 CONFIRMED
severe nebula
Any bf1 middle eastern servers live rn?
scenic beacon
would be interesting to say the least
kindred atlas
@kindred atlas just so you know, you get all the weapons and and unlocks up to and from chapter 4 (the chapter before the pacific was released) and you don't get all the cosmetics, but a slither of it. if i recall correctly, two outfits, a few vehicle skins and a whole bunch of weapon skins
@gray saffron How do I do this?
There was nothing here for me to rescue.
Do I need to play?
scenic beacon
If you get the year two bundle it comes with a bunch of items that you can find in the armory under the tab on the far left
i think
gray saffron
true, i think
scenic beacon
or they may just be added straight into your company? either way you should have them if you buy it
kindred atlas
Okay I already found the clothes!
And the weapons? Does SKIN come in the guns? I went to customize and I didn't find it.
Wanted SKIN for SgT
gray saffron
can you uhh check the lee enfield
that one should got most of the skins. if they are on that one, then they should be for allt he ones they have given
scenic beacon
you should probably have them
kindred atlas
What is it manito? (lee enfield)
If you get the year two bundle it comes with a bunch of items that you can find in the armory under the tab on the far left
@scenic beacon In shipments?
kindred atlas
There's nothing here.
I received clothes but weapon skins I can't find!
Not even vehicles.
tall frost
Let’s just say that’s true
What’s wrong with them
We only got snow maps
They would prob give us like
gray saffron
russia is so overused. with their chernobylisque locations ands tuff
tall frost
Urban Russia maps
gray saffron
(yeah that's ukraine i know)
tall frost
scenic beacon
@kindred atlas try checking again under the customizations for the weapons it advertised skins for.
echo turtle
Or reopen the game
scenic beacon
yeah, if everything else fails a restart is a good idea
tall frost
Battlefield 6 would have UK and Russia maps (but not all maps are set in probably) -September 4 2020
Sorry I wanna archive it just in case
It’s right
kindred atlas
@kindred atlas try checking again under the customizations for the weapons it advertised skins for.
@scenic beacon Ok
brisk bear
😩
scenic beacon
@ivory pelican i'd say both are solid choices, but I'd personally go with the grease gun, i'm a sucker for high damage SMGs
ivory pelican
ok thx
scenic beacon
prime pine
Grease gun and suomi are really solid
brave coral
i was using the type 100 and damn there’s this tiny range where it feels a bit jank but either side of that it’s monstrous
especially up close
got a nice 40 kill game on marita conquest with a good mix of the t100 and m27, popping out the revolver to finish people off occasionally
that is maybe the one downside of the type 100, you do have to reload a tad more since it’s got that +1 BTK
waxen chasm
when does the BFV sale end?
split cave
guys i wanna play bf6
i'am playing bf4 since 2014
nothing ever came like it
don't worry i'm not gonna tell anyone
waxen chasm
LMAO
split cave
xD
waxen chasm
when does the BFV sale end?
split cave
15th September
sour stratus
wheat willow
@split cave stop pinging EA staff dude
scenic beacon
that's a big no no and I'm pretty sure against the rules
charred heron
@split cave Please don't ping EA staff or users that aren't engaged in a conversation with you
dense bone
desert dune
Couldn't you say something nicer? 
tall frost
tall frost
Lol he deleted his things
fathom pebble
most likely mods did
tall frost
But he apologized
icy sluice
I am gonna put some pictures together tomorrow, it's too late to get mad at GIMP
solid hinge
thats hecka cool
waxen chasm
What’s the difference between standard edition and year 2 edition of BFV
scenic beacon
Year two comes with catch-up content like vehicles and guns, along with previous skins @waxen chasm
echo turtle
Year two gives a good portion of what you could earn during the first 4 seasons
waxen chasm
Ah ok. Thanks
scenic beacon
np
brave gazelle
Is there a way to get that japanese elite that all the tryhards use
scenic beacon
No, that chapter is over
brave gazelle
Sad luck for me
scenic beacon
solid hinge
its always when u bump into enemy players my ping decides to jump to 300 and make me lag about
scenic beacon
that's hard luck lol
wheat willow
So by that logic I should buy the Year 2 Edition of BF5 right?
scenic beacon
Go for it if you want the game, I'd say it's worth it imo
wheat willow
I have it free to download with EA Access but if I want to keep it I'll buy Year 2
scenic beacon
Yeah that sounds like a wise idea
solid hinge
why do people subscribe to ea access
what ea games are even worth buying other than battlefield
wheat willow
I mean I want the BF games for free ya know
icy sluice
iirc Need For Speed, Titanfall and sports games are there
wheat willow
Also Titanfall as well lol
scenic beacon
Titanfall is fun too, you get a lot of money's worth out of that subscription even if there are sports games
solid hinge
bf5 be like 10 dollars, why not just buy it and own it rather than pay per month to play it
icy sluice
You can look at all of the other games in the subscription here https://www.ea.com/ea-play
wheat willow
you see I planned ahead, buy EA Access and then buy the game I want from that service (thanks to my job that I'll soon be working in 
)
solid hinge
👀
tall frost
@wheat willow what’s your job
wheat willow
Well it's an overall type of job, I'm sure I already discussed about it in the general chat
I can talk about it again in general chat
tall frost
It’s ok don’t want to cause an inconvenience to you
wheat willow
Nah man it's fine 
scenic beacon
Leveling up is a very fast way of getting Company Coin, just play objectives and you should be fine @solid hinge
as of right now, i believe just progressing through levels is the fastest way
solid hinge
also is the stg that good
solid hinge
want points, just lay prone somewhere and wait for people to walk by
one of the most popular ways to play thus far
scenic beacon
that's how you end up at the bottom lol. that's why there's usually a lot of poor performing near the bottom
just make sure you're constantly in and out of objectives and you should be good
solid hinge
also how can i be a good sniper
tight rain
Find a rifle you like and learn how to use it
Learn when the bullet drops
How fast the bullet goes
All that jazz
scenic beacon
learn to not sit back in every open field
you're not useful to your team being completely immobile
solid hinge
people care fuck all bout being useful
im kinda sad my mom took my xbox away and my step brother took my Bf4 so i cant play it but ill probably just buy it again
just play pc
my brother also took my pc
why was your xbox taken
watching the hub on micro edge
tbh i dont even remember why
and since he seems underage, if he didnt already have a pc i doubt he can just up and buy one just like that
i dont know any kids or teens with pc money laying around
solid hinge
which german plane makes the loud siren when nose diving
feral glade
stuka
solid hinge
both?
feral glade
the siren of death
prime pine
Stuka b1 and b2 have the sirens
feral glade
its scary in game i can only imagine in real life
the germans built that sound into it on purpose
solid hinge
yeah i know
look at my pfp i know my german stuff idk why i asked which plane makes the siren but yea
icy sluice
lol
solid hinge
a "i was only asking to make sure you know" moment
glacial forum
does anyone play bf3
feral glade
I still do
feral glade
bf3 TDM is the last authentic BF TDM
glacial forum
yeah its pretty fun
feral glade
sorry im not a coop style player
glacial forum
dammit
solid hinge
hardline ?
feral glade
i hated it...haha
icy sluice
!!lfg
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feral glade
zen you play on PC?
glacial forum
pc
solid hinge
yea look at my profile 😩
feral glade
you in either EU or NA?
glacial forum
i need someone to help with co op tho
glacial forum
unlocking the G3 is a pain
feral glade
just thought as you're a new player you might want to jump in our voice and go in game with some of my friends and I
we are noobie friendly
solid hinge
me or swole
feral glade
you we're playing bfv
solid hinge
na?
feral glade
yeah
solid hinge
im down to join
glacial forum
fr?
solid hinge
id say im decent
glacial forum
do u know of anyone that can help me in co op?
glacial forum
no u dont need to buy it its fine. im close to unlocking a gun thats all
the G3. 151,097/160,000 co op points. idk how many times i played over missions and still didnt get it
like i need to play 1 or 2 more scenarios over again to get the needed points but my friend is offline
solid hinge
Yo
scenic beacon
heya
solid hinge
Hows it going
quiet carbon
yo guys bf4 or bfv
I wanna go back to bf4 because it'll run better but
ya know
bfv
tight rain
I like bfV better personally
quiet carbon
I'll just flip a coin
tight rain
Do tell what you get
quiet carbon
BF4.
tight rain
Cant go wrong with that
solid hinge
i dont see how people can go back to 4 and actually have fun
quiet carbon
still on the 1x GTX
solid hinge
when u gonna upgrade
quiet carbon
in a few months actually xd
I started bf1 on ps4 when it launched, 2 weeks ago I picked up bf4 and just a few days ago I got bfv as well on pc
a friend of mine said bf4 is the best one and after playing bfv, I'd have to say he's right
bfv is amazing but bf4 is just
no need for words
solid hinge
i personally hate how clunky movement is in 4 and its gunplay, and some of its mechanics
i hope they never return to them to appease bf4 diehard fans
echo turtle
Going back to bf4 after experiencing bfv's movement system feels off
solid hinge
i did tonight and i hate it, i can only take so much before closing the game out
quiet carbon
wow I love the new bf update
they made it so that bullets can go through concrete
epic
shell drum
lel some dude got pissed off and started using aimbot
wheat willow
quiet carbon
I'm convinced there's a mechanic that let's you shoot through smoke
happened three times in total to me now
prime pine
Yes its called shooting into the smoke
wheat willow
What mechanic?
You can literally do that in any other fps
Same with Battlefield as well
wild jacinth
i notice theres not a lot of people that understand the lfg section they just join your group and then ask you if you want to play warzone when you clearly had bfv in the lfg.... That or they dont read.
devout shard
maybe they got lucky 3 times
solid hinge
I mean its possible, if you think you have a cheater the best thing is video evidence reported via origin
quiet carbon
how can you even cheat like that lol
prime pine
Sometimes luck
Some times its prediction reliant
If you remember where the guy died prior to the smoke. If you shoot into it there should be a medic
Was excited that the m3 could see past the smoke cloud
But nah
Scope with no purpose
solid hinge
hmm its best not to discuss cheats but they do exist
quiet carbon
maybe map? Although I'm impressed if someone can focus on map movements and fix a gun at that point simultaneously
solid hinge
you mean the specific mechanic? there are several but again best not to discuss
just remember, everyone who uses those cheats is installing malware that had access to their rl payment info, its not a clever idea
quiet carbon
or just make your own client 
although I'd imagine someone smart enough to be able to program something like that wouldn't stoop down to that level lol
solid hinge
pretty much
ayo im trying to make a historial british loadout for assault what main gun wouldi use
in bfv
bren
prime pine
Honestly I would download the cheats and then give information on how they're done so but I can't be fucked even if I could
solid hinge
not needed
we already know how they cheat
we dont want to give that fire anymore oxygen
prime pine
I understand they can't have an anti cheat instantly but you know. This long without it leaves people disillusioned about what we have
I understand cheating programs also are developed alongside the game
solid hinge
its not just battlefield, look at that twitch cod streamer that got caught this week
he had his cheat software on screen while he streamed
prime pine
Oh yeah that fucking moron
solid hinge
✊ 👁️ 👃 👁️
take a game like battlefront 2 where some gadgets and abilities of classes are the same as some cheat software, ie the cheats are built in .. people still cheat on top of that
feral glade
well these cheats are actually cracked developers tools.
some are cracked some are merely offered for a profit by unscrupulous coders.
take a free to play game like combat arms their cheat scripts were actually offered up for sale by the developers themselves.
rotund leaf
Hello
wheat willow
henlo 
rotund leaf
A fellow trench raider
rocky yarrow
Its okay @flint helm . You'll win next time. Very gg tho
wild jacinth
is the ttk still broken ever since they broke it
tough spruce
Hi btw
gray glade
hi there
btw @tough spruce there is #739938247089848351
otherwise your message might disappear cuz ppl talk here
tough spruce
Ok sorry i'm new... thanks donkey
flint helm
Its okay @flint helm . You'll win next time. Very gg tho
@rocky yarrow smh you weren't even in my game
wild jacinth
They should just give you more cc for just capping flags
but they dont they dont give you any cc actually lol
wheat willow
Are the servers for Firestorm dead for consoles?
rotund leaf
Nope
wheat willow
Are they good for Playstation?
rotund leaf
Hmm I don't know about Xbox tho :thonk:
@wheat willow neither do I sorry
What the what now?
@wheat willow nothin'
wheat willow
Okay 
thick shoal
I wish people played apocalypse more on BF1, rarely a sever comes up but dies after 1 round
scarlet carbon
Hey guys. A friend of mine has a problem. Every time he goes into a lobby, he gets kicked afer about 20seconds. It probably has to do with the anti cheat program. But he doesnt use any cheats. Do you know a solution to this?
placid flame
rocky yarrow
@rocky yarrow smh you weren't even in my game
@flint helm
Doesn't matter bro, but I feel ya
gray glade
!!lfg
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scarlet carbon
well if he cheated and is blacklisted
@solid hinge he isnt blacklisted. And this happends on random servers
uncut sail
Can you still unlock the lunge mine thing in bfv?
solid hinge
Well you still havent said he cheated or not
gray glade
but someone said it was bugged
gray glade
you're supposed to be able to unlock it, but someone said here before that it was bugged
not sure tho
brave coral
@gray glade also god forbid you check that they’ve actually looked in the right menu, lest you get some unnecessarily angry DMs lol
gray glade
lol
solid hinge
Re installing bf5 atm
unborn gorge
anyone down for some battelfield 5? got it like 2 days ago
flint helm
I reinstalled it last week
Remembering why I uninstalled it lol
Medic guns feel like pea shooters
brave coral
i mean idk which guns you’re using because they’re some of the best guns in the game at their intended range lol
shy badger
He's probably trying to snipe peeps at 50m
amber pine
solid hinge
Nyah
prime pine
Reee why my sten no good at range
I actually do wish the 540 rpm smgs had a 15 to 20 m 4 hit kill range
uncut plume
Is bf4 worth buying in 2020?
echo turtle
There's a decent amount of people playing on the Xbox one
subtle charm
is there a way for me to unlock weapons like the Welrod if I've just started playing?
rocky yarrow
@uncut plume you BF4 won't disappoint you.
unique perch
coral fiber
Nope
uncut plume
@uncut plume you BF4 won't disappoint you.
@rocky yarrow ty
echo turtle
You should be able to buy every weapon/gadget except the bazooka
lavish basin
Hope the will make a quick update for BF1 with vote kicking
subtle charm
@echo turtle thanks
gray saffron
huh bazooka? bazooka is fine i think, it's the plunger that's a bit buggy. though a friend of mine didn't get the option ot get it and suddenly later he did
pulsar valve
is there an oficial date when is bf6 coming out
@unique perch make sure to follow #game-news for all the updates :)
lavish basin
Mozzy is the hacking problem in BF1 even gonna be fixed
brave coral
@gray saffron i thought that. never had any reports of issues with the bazooka - i reckon the lunge mine issues are related to it being available for two classes
brave garnet
@lavish basinMozzy is just an admin for this discord server, he and everyone else here have nothing to do with moderating a game
gray saffron
yeah. kinda like: dice dev 1: ok, so what if the guy unlocks it on one class, would it be automaticall unlocked on support or does she have to unlock it on support too? dice dev 2: uhh i dunno, just make it bug out so it doesn't appear at all.
gray glade
great, another day of battlefield ruined by a cheater
the guy openly admits to cheating on the server, saying he's been playing with cheats on for 4 months
why do i even bother with battlefield games anymore
eager shore
Why even bother playing PC multiplayer games anymore. Lots of games on PC has cheaters, sadly. Even r/BattlefieldV's God and Savior Modern Warfare.
lavish basin
lol
gray glade
honestly you have a point
i haven't played a COD game since 2006 and it's unlikely ill start now 😄
gray saffron
Even fall guys get ruined. How low must you be to cheat in that game. I dun get why people feel the need to cheat so much in videogames. And without community servers and developers reliance on automated or report systems, cheating becomes more and more common to witness.
gray glade
cheaters need to get hit harder
and i wish cheat creators could get prosecuted
or at least sued
make them pay like 5 million dollars
main grove
My mate told me the other day that people cheat on fallguys which is like
The most pathetic thing I have heard in a long time
gray glade
imagine cheating in a game that isn't even about winning
like its a game that you just use to play around, if you lose, who cares etc
uneven hollow
shy badger
pulsar valve
Mozzy is the hacking problem in BF1 even gonna be fixed
@lavish basin Can't speak to that
@solid hinge stop
solid hinge
im bad
gray glade
like the song?
brave coral
yeah, people use speed hacks and stuff in fall guys lol
tall frost
Lol
quiet carbon
supersonic penguins
main grove
I've hardly been active with BF games for quite some time now has anything been said on what's going on
with the next BF?
main grove
I mean I saw the "leaks" a while back
main grove
Saying that it was originally gonna be Bad Company 3 but they decided it didn't feel like bad company so it's likely just gonna be generic modern again like 3 and 4
scenic beacon
That’s pretty much all speculation at this point
The fact is we just don’t know much of anything rn
main grove
Yeah but I am expecting it to be modern
tall frost
Same
main grove
I'd be pleasantly surprised if it wasn't
tall frost
Leaks also said it’s testing 128 ppl
main grove
I mean I was hoping maybe 80's or 90's but now people are just gonna claim copycat of COD now
tall frost
And it’s gone be set in 2030
main grove
if it was
tall frost
Idk I took high hopes of that one leak you said about bad company 3
Because it sorta ties in with why BFV was so bad
scenic beacon
I don’t trust any leaks for now since i can barely tell if anything is credible these days
main grove
But for some reason they got swapped
main grove
I mean it would have been 2020 had Covid not happened probably
tall frost
Yeah
main grove
And the fact that they realised maybe they should give it a bit longer when they saw what rushing it did to BFV
tall frost
Hold on let me get that one leak
main grove
Fuck I really loved BFV so much but it just needed one more year
tall frost
main grove
Before it was released
tall frost
Dang it was deleted
But it makes sense
And also, in the comments the same leaker said that black ops 5 was in shambles
Like the development was a mess
But we have to wait until the game gets released
main grove
COD development is done by 3 different studios with 3 years each
tall frost
Dang
main grove
Sledgehammer, Treyarch and Infinity ward
tall frost
Sledgehammer was considered the worst
main grove
They all have 3 years to work and release in cycles so there's one COD per year
Yeah sledgehammer is the newest one
tight rain
Their setup doesnt seem like such a bad idea
main grove
Sledgehammer initially helped Infinity with MW3 before they became their own thing and their first solo project was advanced warfare
I think
main grove
Battlefield games have for about a decade always had a 2 year release schedule
Which i don't think is enough
main grove
Oh yeah that leak did say they plan 4 years ahead with projects
brave coral
you don’t get 4 years of full on work though
main grove
Well what I mean is they are supposed to release one every 2 years
to appease the investors
And that is clearly not enough
As can be seen with BF4 and BFV
tall frost
Bro BF4 needed one more month of testing
main grove
BF1 was well received because that had more time than other games because hard-line was handled by a different studio
tall frost
Hardline was not rushed but let’s not talk about that
main grove
BF1 probably got an extra year of development time thanks to visceral handling hardline
tall frost
Are you sure?
Like are you sure not because idk...
There was a massive layoff in 2015/2016
main grove
I mean it's my explanation as to why BF1 was better off on launch compared to BF4 and BFV
tall frost
BF1 also needed more testing
main grove
Tbh BFV's release wasn't that bad even
tall frost
main grove
It was the post content that was lacking
brave coral
bfv was fine on release from a stability perspective
tall frost
Bro they overhyped it
main grove
Hype is usually a result of the fans rather than the devs
brave coral
like it was perfectly playable, there was a couple of things that needed fixing but nothing major and they were patched soon
tall frost
Actually to be clear
main grove
The devs marketed it badly
main grove
And should have just ignored all the sneering from fans rather than responding
tall frost
Considering the BFV reveal trailer was probably made before EA urged them to release the game in 2018, still had females and katanas and crap
main grove
BFV wasn't a failure I'm sure it sold 7 mil copies which might be considered a fail by a publisher superpower like EA
But I wouldn't say that was a flop
tall frost
Because no studio would add a feature in their trailer that isn’t in the game
glares at ubisoft
main grove
I'm not even bothered by the reveal trailer's content it's more I just didn't like the one extended shot
brave coral
yeah it undersold their anticipated launch numbers, but that doesn’t really mean it failed lol
main grove
The thing was
tall frost
BFV wasn’t exactly a flop for the fans
main grove
At the time of the BFV reveal trailer
tall frost
But it was A MASSIVE FLOP for the development for BF6
tall frost
Since they have so many mistakes to fix and so much pressure put on them
main grove
It was mostly done so they could show off all the maps
brave coral
i wasn’t a huge fan of the reveal trailer, but i really don’t see the mindset behind “i didn’t like the trailer they released over so years ago, which makes the entire game bad 
“
main grove
I liked the cosmetics of BFV as much as people shitted on them
tall frost
main grove
BF1 had a horrible lack of customisation
tall frost
brave coral
90% of them are on a scale of decent to actually really nice
tall frost
Bro realistic customization is better than wacky face paint
brave coral
it’s basically like 5 sets that are a bit too goofy
“oh no he smeared some green paint on his face 0/10 game ruined”
main grove
I always thought they should make a client side cosmetic override that was map based if people were that bothered
misty plinth
caring about cosmetics over gameplay is just weird to me
go play a simulator if thats what you want
tall frost
Bro
misty plinth
battlefield has never been a simulator
brave coral
nah, cosmetic override is a pretty shitty idea because it just devalues any purchases
tall frost
Spending time developing cosmetics over actual features is weird to me
digital kiln
back from the dead
misty plinth
graphic artirsts dont do gameplay features
main grove
But DICE did respond with the somewhat fair argument that "people paid like £7 to appear like this it'd be kinda rude if we added a feature that just made it so you could not see it"
misty plinth
3D modeling is completely different over gameplay features and can be done much faster
its not related at all
brave coral
“oh you bought some cosmetics that you like? fuck you, timmy is a whiny little boy who doesn’t like people having options”
@misty plinth exactly, i don’t know how people can’t distinguish between workloads lol
misty plinth
this is like getting mad at the janitor for cleaning while the cook makes your burger
people are just morons who want to be mad about things they cant comprehend
main grove
At first I advocated for a feature that was like:
You CHOOSE what everyone looks like to you
brave coral
yeah it is literally a case of looking for reasons to be mad, i think
main grove
So you could make your own BF1 style outfit sets for everyone to appear as
But that of course
Could be exploited for bad things
tall frost
Yeah
tall frost
That was in WW1
brave coral
honestly when people still complain about women in their vidya in 2020 it comes across as looking for things to complain about
tall frost
That wasn’t
misty plinth
I just want DICE to make 2143 so they can make whatever cosmetics they want without people freaking out over shit that doesnt matter
main grove
Same tbh
brave coral
tbh just modern setting
main grove
I'd love a future one
misty plinth
People will get mad when theres a helmet that doesnt exist for americans
main grove
I've wanted something that feels like planetside 2 for ages
tall frost
If they make it modern then the cosmetics would be very good/basic
main grove
Without the jank
misty plinth
Battlefield community is just full of whiners
brave coral
i’ve said it before but i am really looking forward to seeing the excuses that people come up with for why they don’t like the women
misty plinth
they whine about garbage that doesnt matter
tall frost
In BFV?
misty plinth
its why I play as Hannah and Misaki lol I love hearing people whine
its well worth the money
especially when you t bag them
tall frost
But women weren’t in Ww2 tho...
misty plinth
yes
main grove
I don't agree with them but I sorta understand why they're mad because Misaki was a free elite so anyone who played the game somewhat regularly got her
misty plinth
who cares its cosmetic
main grove
Oh
brave coral
it’s so funny because it’s like a feedback loop where you wear something they don’t like, they take it way out of proportion, and then you get more people like “hehe let’s piss off some nerds” and using them
tall frost
Bruh
main grove
Yeah not as much but it was a thing in some circles
tall frost
DICE just failed at making a WW2 game
brave coral
like, if it was down to me you wouldn’t have cross faction elites. but at the same time, i don’t care enough to complain about it, and at this point the amusement from seeing people have an aneurysm over them is better than not having them
misty plinth
gameplay is al lthat matters
tall frost
Not an FPS game in general
main grove
This is why
tall frost
Just a WW2 game
main grove
I think devs
misty plinth
BFV has the best gameplay of the series they cut down on all the RNG bullshit from the past games
no ucav or mortar spam
main grove
Should openly make alternate history claims
misty plinth
tanks dont have absurd abilties
brave coral
i mean, it’s very subjective lol
main grove
That would shut so many people up if you just outright claim "it's not meant to be accurate"
brave coral
as to what constitutes a ww2 game
misty plinth
Whenever I play BF4 and a tank uses active protection and turns invincible I just dont want to play anymore
theres no point in trying to kill it
the way vehicles are balanced in BFV is so much better
main grove
I never played much BF4 and I'm glad I didn't
A some what skilled vehicle user sounded unkillable
misty plinth
absolutely
main grove
That and BF4 vehicles have a similar issue to BFV vehicles
In that it's so painful trying to level it up
main grove
Because you start so inferior to everyone else
misty plinth
tanks are kind of easy to level
main grove
I've always wanted good PVE but bots are really hard to make work in a BF game
tall frost
Some day battlefield games would have to get released once every 3 years
misty plinth
the only real negative BFV holds in my mind is that there are too many random game modes and lack of content
misty plinth
Rush Breakthrough Conquest and Domination should be the only game modes
nothing else really matters
main grove
It would have released in the Update 5 state
And it would have been loved
Aside from the moaners
Frontlines is sorta mixed for me like
I love the idea
But the team balance needs to work before I consider playing it full time like Conquest
The thing is team balance is hard to implement because
The major source of team stomps is clan stacks
And you can't bar friends from playing with each other
brave coral
Rush Breakthrough Conquest and Domination should be the only game modes
i mean, in the current state it’s literally those + frontlines and TDM
oh and outpost
tall frost
BFV would have been rated 85
main grove
Outpost is a weird one I really hate the sound of it on paper
brave coral
outpost is a cool mode which i would love to see expanded in future titles
tall frost
But still fail at making a WW2 game
main grove
But out of all the game modes outpost feels the most sandboxy to me
Like I'm actually exploring some sort of large map
brave coral
can i have a definitive explanation as to how it isn’t a ww2 game? i see this a lot where people love to say that but refuse to expand on it
brave coral
set in ww2
in ww2 locations
with ww2 factions
with ww2 weapons
and ww2 equipment
and ww2 vehicles
“nah it’s actually not ww2”
main grove
I can understand what people mean when they say "It's not a WW2 game"
They probably picture something like this
Fugly graphics and everything blown up
brave coral
my best guess is that they mean “it doesn’t line up with my perception of ww2 which is entirely based on saving private ryan”
main grove
Like I said before
If they just say one thing and that being "This is alternative" then that will shut down like 98% of the complaints
Like I want more devs to completely make shit up I fully welcome it
Historical fiction based around WW1 and WW2 is something I'd find super interesting
brave coral
this is fairly unrelated
brave coral
but imagine like an alt-history, full on steampunk setting game
tall frost
The weapons were WW2
brave coral
not necessarily battlefield
tall frost
The soldiers were WW2
brave coral
just a steampunk shooter
tall frost
The vechikes were WW2
brave coral
i love the concept of like “what if detachable magazines weren’t really developed” and instead firearms were built around the revolver concept
tall frost
The rest was unrealistic stuff
brave coral
“the rest”?
tall frost
If they didn’t add or replaced the unrealistic stuff it would have been a WW2 game
main grove
What's "The rest"?
brave coral
“the bits that i personally don’t like”
idle breach
"THEREST"
tall frost
“the rest”?
Cosmetics, some campaigns, the women
tall frost
WW1 did have women
scenic beacon
brave coral
so did ww2
main grove
Look I fully understand what people mean when they say "it doesn't feel like WW2" and that's because they've been fully trained to only imagine Saving Private Ryan and all the games that were inspired by it as how WW2 was
idle breach
wdym, like
idle breach
in that standard vehicles and guns and maps should also go to the "the rest" category.
main grove
Nothing is made up (for the most part)
But things will be not represented at the same level as IRL
brave coral
yeah, i know where they’re coming from with it, but it’s also a pain to deal with when they just won’t change their mind at all because they’re right, you’re wrong, that’s it
idle breach
and if something is made up, they were pretty clear about it except some plain stupid cosmetics
tall frost
Bro Bf1 was WW1 because 99% of its stuff was from WW1
idle breach
99% lmao
brave coral
ah but that’s not 100% so it’s not a ww1 game
main grove
This is what I mean when I compare "Historical accuracy" to "Historical Authenticity"
tall frost
Yes because they added a bit, just a very teeny winy bit more women
tall frost
Talking about the title
idle breach
it's not even full of authentic things and you can't just being realistic/authentic with putting some period-correct things in randomly
brave coral
yeah historical authenticity + suspension of disbelief is more appropriate for a historic bf game
idle breach
always double standard
main grove
Wasn't the limpet charge in BF1 actually a WW2 design?
tall frost
That’s why I said 99
main grove
So that's an authentic error
idle breach
"this inaccuracy is fine but this (mostly including woman) is totally unacceptable but I can't explain why"
brave coral
i mean, if it was historically accurate, bf1 would be everyone sitting around for days in a trench then going over the top and getting gunned down instantly at dawn
main grove
BF1 actually was less accurate than BF5 in terms of weapons
brave coral
"this inaccuracy is fine but this (mostly including woman) is totally unacceptable but I can't explain why"
that literally sums the entire thing up lmao
tall frost
Women weren’t in WW2 but DICE added them and slightly over exaggerated them.
main grove
Like WW1 was 97% Bolt action rifles and handguns
brave coral
@main grove call that random bullet deviation 
main grove
In BF1 I'd say maybe...
25-40% of the guns featured were actually used in proper numbers
tall frost
BFV was less accurate than BF1 in terms of Weapon add-ons
tall frost
brave coral
“oh no they had reflex sights for gameplay improvement purposes, awful game”
literally who cares
idle breach
weapon add-on? lmao
main grove
I kinda wish iron sights had some buff to them so you'd use them over either a 1x relfex or a 3x scope
tall frost
Everytime I see battlefield V Reviews
I see a buttload of people that complain about the unrealistic things
idle breach
yeah. entitled gamer shitheads.
tall frost
They were right but... they were over exaggerating a bit
brave coral
again... literally who cares about the reviews lol
tall frost
Bruh reviews are what makes a game grow/get better
main grove
I'm still unsure to this day whether I prefer BF1's gunplay or BFV's
tall frost
Why not both
main grove
BF1's feels less consistent but it tends to be easier to survive because of that
idle breach
yeah the proper reviews / some established reviewers
brave coral
and again, this is the whole “this game can do something wrong and i’m fine with it, but this game did the same thing and it’s a war crime (hint - it’s because the second game has women)”
tall frost
idle breach
not just angry wehraboo rants don't even play the game
main grove
BFV even with the TTK change was harder to survive in at mid range than BF1
idle breach
just go read the "amateur review" pages and it's just wehraboo shitshow
main grove
Assuming your average enemy was an automatic user
brave coral
ye because the bullets still went where you aimed them
tall frost
I still don’t understand what DICE’s goal was for the TTK change
main grove
BFV is quite a lethal game shooting wise
It's very unforgiving to people who walk out in the open
TTK change was a shitstorm and tbh I was ok with both models
Some things were a bit much
brave coral
yeah it makes me laugh when people who presumably don’t even play the game read a reddit post from like 8 months ago and go “i hate bfv because you have to empty your entire mag to get a kill”
idle breach
yeah it was just shitstorm
main grove
But I didn't mind the added survivability
tall frost
Some were too frickin much
main grove
Lives lasted longer
brave coral
i kinda liked the direction, but the execution was pretty poor
tall frost
It makes me laugh at people who read leaks that are obviously bonkers
brave coral
it was still fairly lethal in most cases
tall frost
main grove
If they changed the TTK than I felt the healing should have had a rework
Make medic less self heal spam based
tall frost
I wish the reviving had a rework
brave coral
having an actual cooldown on the medic self heals would be good yeah
brave coral
and yeah i like revives in bfv
tall frost
But they always clip through
brave coral
clip through what?
tall frost
Ik it’s something funny to whine at
But it’s pretty hilarious seeing a needle clipping through a rock
main grove
I will admit BFV got somewhat animation heavy at times
tall frost
*clipping
brave coral
oh
main grove
But I wouldn't say it was in poor balance
tall frost
The animations didnt correspond with the map
main grove
Like in BF1 that fact you could insta pop out of a tank with a DB sawed off shotgun was kinda broken for me at times
tall frost
Kinda
brave coral
that’s not really to do with the revive system though, that’s just not spending ages programming dynamic animations that react based on the non existent hitboxes of tiny props
main grove
The one thing in BFV that pisses me off the most movement and animation wise is the sliding and I ranted about it yesterday
The fucking reverse slide up stairs shit
brave coral
and yeah i quite like the animations for doing stuff, a few are a little long but for the most part it doesn’t bother me
yeah slide mechanics could be a bit better
main grove
BF1 sliding was fair as it had used but also disadvantages
Like it slowed you down to a stop
And you could not change direction or turn as fast
brave coral
i will be honest i abuse the fuck out of movement in bfv lol
main grove
It was meant almost purely for defence behind cover
brave coral
especially with an aggressive weapon like an smg or a shotgun
but also vaulting and ledge grabs and stuff
main grove
Sliding in battle isn't something that annoys me because if you know it's coming it's easy to punish