tribal cairn
If you heard the brrrt, it wasn't meant for you
#battlefield-legacy-titles
vestal yew
K good
golden ocean
Nah, if he heard the brrt it means he wasn't the target. Because GAU-8 Avenger 30mm bullets are faster than sound.
prime pine
Sds are back, so yay.
wet fossil
Ugh I hate how the squad I'm always put on is the absolute bottom-barrel material
And literally every other squad is full to the brim
How the hell was this team winning when I joined they're all idiots
digital kiln
yankee wit no brim
prime pine
Last bundle in 39 m
rain grove
There are cheaters 2/3 times on EU servers
wet fossil
So ramming a Greyhound at full speed from the side will flip it right over
Though it magically rolled back into position very quickly
Then I got fucked by an entire platoon of the damn things
Oh fuck I always forget that fucking Provence comes after Panzerstorm
Jesus I hate this place
rain grove
5 mins
Do you guys restart the game when the armory update occurs because for me when I stay in the new items dont appear and the old ones dissappear
brave coral
i’m not normally online for refreshes lol
i just rely on other people posting here if i’m at home, or if was at school then i’d just watch the crafter vid a bit later
rain grove
if this was a school day id be on my way home right now, about 15 minutes away : D
The armory update happens at 3pm for me
what
nothing new appeared
restarting again
prime pine
Oh
prime pine
Thats always been there
brave coral
so no red devil?
rain grove
Come on what the frick
prime pine
Time for some breakthrough
rain grove
MY BOINS ARE UNHAPPY
brave coral
lol
solid hinge
I guess red devil is never coming to the game 😩
brave coral
!!regular
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brave coral
@solid hinge why would it not? they never said “yeah everything that will ever be available will be in these bundles” lol
@rain grove how ironic
to use the regular command you need to be a regular
solid hinge
So I just finished the Battlefield 3 campaign for probably the 5th time, and I still think it's the best campaign in the series. I don't know why it got so much shit when it first launched, I think it's even better than CoD 4's campaign
rain grove
to use the regular command you need to be a regular
@brave coral how does that make any sense
solid hinge
It's just a bit of a ****tease since they released cavalry commando
brave coral
purely because to use any commands you need to be a regular
rain grove
...new people gonna think how to get the role and if they dont ask they'll never know
solid hinge
Seems dice hates the colour red
brave coral
so you don’t get people spamming commands
rain grove
this is dissapointing
gray saffron
because you need to prove that you're helpful and do it the old fashion way first of just typing it to people
rain grove
I was hoping we'd get the epic variant of the panzergrenadier
solid hinge
Also can we just take a moment to appreciate how well BF3 has aged? Especially graphically
It looks like a game from 2017, not 2011 which was nearly a decade ago
gray saffron
once you're regular you're allowed to be a bit more lazy and use commands ;D
Yeah bf3 aged like fine wine. which is why i think it's weird people want a remaster. it still looks incredibly well
solid hinge
^
rain grove
idk only mission i liked was the jet one
solid hinge
exactly
rain grove
and halo jump
brave coral
@rain grove i mean there’s still a very good chance we’ll see them, i don’t know why they wouldn’t release them
rain grove
they should make those sorts of missions in bf 2021 instead of fake war stories
brave coral
yeah hopefully it’s a traditional campaign rather than war stories, both have their merits but war stories lack something
solid hinge
@rain grove I know right it made so much sense to release red devil and Kradschutzen
brave coral
also i’d refer to it as bf6, since we don’t know when it’s releasing
wet fossil
BF3's jet level kinda sucked because the entire thing was bloody WSO work
rain grove
they said 2021
wet fossil
Didn't teach you the controls at all.
brave coral
and once again, there’s literally nothing saying they won’t - it was probably just a misinterpretation of the tweet with ‘until tuesday’ meaning the last one was on monday
rain grove
also the BFV prologue is good
brave coral
personally the prologue was ok but kind of a waste
integrating a tutorial into a cinematic intro could work well imo
rain grove
yeah they should've made missions out of those
especially the one where you had to intercept the bombers
brave coral
like it tells you to capture an objective, then shows you how to build fortifications etc
dude i remember thinking ‘haha i’m pretty good at flying in swbf2 i’ll do this cool’ then i failed miserably lmao
rain grove
not in the prologue but when you go in Multiplayer
it should ask you if you want to complete the tutorial which explains all the mechanics and stuff or if you just want to skip it
solid hinge
But how long now do we have to wait now?
The outfits beeni in the game since june 2019 with defying the odds
And they never released it
rain grove
Yeah, remember irregular, that one was in the game from launch and Lands... something
pale meteor
What are the cosmetics for today's bundle?
gray saffron
eh i hate it when they make it super obvious that it is an tutorial. just do taht seperately like bfv did. the prologue is great way to cinematically introduce you to bfv and make you hyped to play your first match
rain grove
if you go temporyal's page on twitter
brave coral
tbh i think if a tutorial was integrated into a mandatory prologue thing it could work
gray saffron
like those practice range/prep camps in older ww2 games. those did not age well
brave coral
like, just a simple demonstration of how to do stuff, so you get like voice or text prompts telling you to capture an objective
rain grove
Separately
Tutorials are honestly annoying
I hate doing them
They are the worst
and the firing ranges are just waste of space
brave coral
that’s sort of the issue though
gray saffron
but there is a seperate tutorial dr and you can opt to play that right after you did the prologue. it will show you them after i think
rain grove
Yes, but if they'd be integrated into a campaign mission it'd be more annoying
where its obvious
gray saffron
i remember there the third option was to be placed in a squad conquest map...let's see if that option is still there
rain grove
its still there
brave coral
i think it’s just that if it’s optional then chances are, the people who the game would benefit from doing a tutorial probably won’t do it
it doesn’t have to be obvious though
gray saffron
nah it's gone smoke
rain grove
but like in BFV, when you launch MP for the first time or smth it pops out the tab asking if you want to do the tutorial
rain grove
idk if its like that though
gray saffron
but do people really need to follow a tutorial in bfv? most of it is fairly self explanatory. if this was post scriptum sure, but bfv can be told through cinematic pieces of shorting being in a tank, plane and infantry and the rest can be learned through gameplay.
prime pine
To wait till next week
brave coral
like i’m not suggesting a full thing, basically have the bfv prologue but for example on the narvik bit you get a soldier shout at you to capture the objective and you get a little pop up
rain grove
but do people really need to follow a tutorial in bfv? most of it is fairly self explanatory. if this was post scriptum sure, but bfv can be told through cinematic pieces of shorting being in a tank, plane and infantry and the rest can be learned through gameplay.
@gray saffron yes
brave coral
mostly just demonstrating that objectives are important, maybe show you how to build fortifications, etc
gray saffron
but that ruins immersion of it all. 😦
rain grove
BF games arent that hard to learn on yourself
brave coral
not really
i feel like it’s more for people who aren’t actually interested in learning how to do stuff
rain grove
but if the next game just asks you to press T to start building a sandbag wall...
in some mission
idk it sounds weird
and therefor I dont like it
gray saffron
the reason the prologue makes me hyped is because the pacing is so fast. just like bf1 was. if you introduce those stuff you'd slow down the pacing of the gameplay.
brave coral
if it’s just ‘build this wall’ without reason then yeah
brave coral
but my point is you can fairly well implement it into a short gameplay segment
eager shore
Considering how much players don't know basic features, I'd say a mandatory tutorial would be nice.
brave coral
eg you get given an MMG, your sergeant shouts at you to build some cover and mount your gun to take out the enemies
@eager shore exactly my point
rain grove
but it displays everything it has to on the screen
brave coral
you can literally have it almost entirely based on in-game voice lines and a little text in the top right
brave coral
@rain grove i think you’re missing my point
brave coral
it’s not some long drawn out thing, a player who already knows the game can breeze through it in like 2 minutes, it’s for new players who don’t know basic gameplay mechanics like building fortifications or even capturing objectives
rain grove
The most 'normal' way to do it is to just put you in a mission like BF3's 2nd mission where you're in Iraq or smth and the game throws you some tips on what buttons to press
brave coral
but then, once again that is missing the idea that a lot of people, especially new players won’t actually play that, they’ll just go into multiplayer and wander around doing nothing
drifting zephyr
hey
rain grove
yet at the start of each round the commander yells through comms to capture objectives + when you select certain gamemodes it explains what you have to do
brave coral
i have no issue doing some quick little mission that tells me stuff i already know if it means that even like 10% of the new players who don’t know what they’re doing, now know the basics of multiplayer game modes and improve the experience for everyone
brave coral
which you can skip
brave coral
new players who probably got the game for christmas and just want to hop into a match
rain grove
so they watch the demonstration trailer
brave coral
it’s better imo to just have a little thing that’s like ‘capture this objective’ and then ‘build this sandbag wall and kill the incoming enemies’
rain grove
most of the people who get the game on christmas already have seen or heard or know about what you can do in the game and how to play it
gray saffron
fine i'll play along. we get alengthy intro over narvik, showing people fighting. it zooms out to an overview screen. planes start flying in, you can select one and you get the paradrop animation. you push upwards the hill until you get to those two houses, you switch to an engineer character and the squad lead tells yout o fortifty and set up the mg at one of the sandbag walls. you fight them off and the zone is captured. a british tank rolls up and you're expected to jump in it. lead the charge to the next object..but a bomber kills your tank. you zoom out to the overview screen and a plane icon appears. you spawn into a squadron of spitfires and your task is to hunt down that bomber. once you do however, one of your teammates get hit by flakfire. camera looks down and zooms towards teh aa. you're in that aa and expected to take down the squadron. you then have to move up and start sniping at the objective until you're asked to pop a flare. that gave you enough points to throw a v1 and the intro ends after the blast
eager shore
most of the people who get the game on christmas already have seen or heard or know about what you can do in the game and how to play it
You underestimate how many normies do not understand how to play a video game.
brave coral
no offence but like why are you so against doing a thing which would take like a few minutes to complete and makes it more likely that other people will know what they’re doing and thus improve your own experience?
@gray saffron yeah something like that is exactly what i meant
rain grove
because I hate tutorials and literally I have never completed one besides the one in squad
eager shore
There's a reason why the "Request ammo!" spam is a meme. Because a lot of average players don't know how to use basic features.
brave coral
integrated into a bit of a cinematic mission, it’s a bit of an intro to the game, teaches you how to do basic shit
@rain grove so with you saying that do you maybe see why i’m saying they should do this?
rain grove
no unless its a tactical shooter like Squad
brave coral
because people who don’t have a clue what an objective, or a fortification or even it seems sometimes an enemy is will have that same mindset of just skipping the tutorial and then are basically useless when they join your game in multiplayer and never actually learn how to do anything
rain grove
HLL was free this week and it didnt have a tutorial yet I learned everything I had to
because people who don’t have a clue what an objective, or a fortification or even it seems sometimes an enemy is will have that same mindset of just skipping the tutorial and then are basically useless when they join your game in multiplayer and never actually learn how to do anything
@brave coral Most of the that doesnt happen
brave coral
i can assure you it does
brave coral
like i’m not calling you a clueless player, idk why you’re taking offence, i’m just saying if there was a short mission that just taught you the basics of the game like jer described then it’s likely that it would actually benefit players who do know what they’re doing
rain grove
it doesnt have a tutorial telling you how to build
or neither does it tell you that you have to survive till the end
or that you only have 1 life or whatever
You play your first match and then play again and again and eventually you learn
thats how I like it
if you want to know how to perhaps build in battlefield v you go into keybindings and search for the button or go through all the keys on your keyboard
brave coral
the point isn’t knowing how, the point is that people literally don’t know you can build fortifications
rain grove
and then you might say that new players dont know that its a feature yet almost every game showcases it in the trailer
showcases every new mechanic in its trailer
like in BFV's reveal trailer
there's a V1 at the end, in the middle of the video he goes prone on the sides and backwards
he picks up ammo from the ground
or it was thrown at him
it also shows how you can throw away grenades
it even shows the keybinding in the video
and you can also see people placing sandbags
and basically every buyer has seen the trailer for the product
echo turtle
What if they bought it blind
rain grove
also for some reason they have a foregrip on the M1928 in the reveal
thats a question for another day
btw did most of you think that the reveal was trash?
I didnt mind it
echo turtle
It felt like it was attempting to be both funny and action packed at the same time
eager shore
thats a question for another day
No it's not. It's relevant to why a mandatory tutorial would be beneficial to all players in the long run. I myself try go in to a game completely blind and try not to watch trailers to keep my expectations level when buying a new game.
Not everyone who plays Battlefield V has watched a trailer that showcases every single feature the game has to offer.
rain grove
if you're blind why would you even buy a videogame?
echo turtle
Going in blind
rain grove
aaaa
echo turtle
Meaning you have no clue what's up with it
rain grove
dont buy it blind then
but you still learn the same way
it doesnt change
even if the game has a tutorial you may forget most of the stuff
what button to press
like that
so you go into keybindings : )
echo turtle
It wouldn't be that hard to slap together a basic tutorial that explained what something did and how it works
eager shore
🤦♂️
echo turtle
Having a tutorial would be helpful in general
rain grove
sure
A tutorial may be useful for some people
but the keypoint here was that it would be made into a campaign mission
brave coral
yeah idk why smoke feels personally attacked by a tutorial that takes less than 5 minutes to complete
rain grove
which forces you to play it
brave coral
like, the prologue is already unskippable, why not just implement some basic tutorial stuff into it so people know how to do things and know mechanics actually exist?
rain grove
Im not feeling offended at all, I'm just saying that I dont like when the game forces you into a tutorial
echo turtle
When I open a game regardless of knowing how the game works I want something that can give me a refresher if needed
brave coral
i’m reasonably sure a lot of players don’t even know they can throw ammo and medkits lol
rain grove
and you hate on me for this reason
brave coral
why do you not like it? because it suggests you don’t know how to play the game?
hollow igloo
A lot of people don’t know you can duck while firing in a top mounted tank turret
strange pelican
im not sure a tutorial would really help sales
rain grove
'thats true'
hollow igloo
Loads of people don’t know about the class variations
echo turtle
That's why there's an option that says 'hey do you know how to play if so press this button' in most games
rain grove
I didnt know you could press X to duck
brave coral
@hollow igloo tbh not even that, it’s basic shit like objectives, fortifications, ammo and medic stuff
rain grove
but I still learned it
prime pine
This convo still on?
rain grove
But the fact is that tutorials should be skippable
hollow igloo
I think it should show you some common play styles in battlefield as well
prime pine
You do know you can turn off tutorials
prime pine
And the prologue only serves as an introduction not a tutorial
hollow igloo
We’re talking about like if battlefield should have a full on tutorial
rain grove
And the prologue only serves as an introduction not a tutorial
@prime pine thats what it is
prime pine
It should always be an option for those trying things out
rain grove
yep
prime pine
It literally introduces you into the game when you boot it up for the very first time
rain grove
btw for me actually the introduction was bugged
the plane sequence
I couldnt control the plane and would fly out of the game zone
and then fall out of the plane and die
hollow igloo
Well if you wanna boot up the game and then have the introduction play have it like @gray saffron idea
rain grove
They way it is in BFV is completely fine
but if they made it like his idea it would be better
hollow igloo
Or just have something like that for the next game
rain grove
But also every gamemode has its own introduction trailer
hollow igloo
Oh yeah I forgot about those
echo turtle
How many people actually watch those
gray saffron
i still personally think the way bfv did it as introduction to its theme is better than what i wrote down. i mean... we've seen how bf community reacted to a reveal trailer that solely focused on gameplay compared to a trailer focused on telling a story :3
brave coral
exactly @echo turtle lol
echo turtle
Other than just hearing the name and quickly skipping it
eager shore
Plus, watching a tutorial isn't the same as having the player perform the actions themselves.
gray saffron
having a gameplay focused introduction is a lot harder to pull off well than one that is just trying to immerse you into its theme
rain grove
But it still is self explanatory
the gamemodes
if you want a tutorial
then you go and boot up a tutorial
but like in BFV
in the practice tab
brave coral
you’ve literally demonstrated yourself that people take offence at the presence of a tutorial and certainly won’t go out of their way to do one
gray saffron
the lack of sneak peek for today is a hard blow. the fact that armory resets in a week more is even harder blow 😫
rain grove
and not be forced on you
brave coral
literally what do you have against having to do like a 5 minute thing
gray saffron
i'm sitting on 1000 boins, dice. i was ready!
rain grove
i'm sitting on 1000 boins, dice. i was ready!
@gray saffron im at 1100 and now I dont know what to spend them on
you're literally offended at the fact that I think that tutorials should be skippable
gray saffron
if the next bundle was katkratsche and red devil i would have ought it so hard
brave coral
that at worst... sets you back 5 minutes, and even if you don’t feel like it was useful you’ll probably see the effects in multiplayer because oh look! people actually know what they’re doing lol
gray saffron
or maybe i should have gotten ze jager bundle. for ze weapon skins 😦
brave coral
@rain grove i’m literally asking what you have against a tutorial and your argument is ‘look at the keybinds’
rain grove
thats not what my argument is
brave coral
well, it’s the only one you’ve made
rain grove
its about that tutorials should be skippable
gray saffron
prologue is also skippable,the tutorial would've been also skippable then
rain grove
and that games dont actually require it
and BFV doesnt put you in a tutorial
it just asks you if you want to do it
echo turtle
It would be extremely helpful to new players to have one for them
brave coral
@gray saffron i didn’t think prologue was skippable? i was playing when my friend first played the game and he couldn’t skip it
rain grove
asks new players
gray saffron
once your boots are on the ground of norway you can press quit and it brings you to the main menu i believe
echo turtle
So you're not suffering because your teammate is trying to learn how to do shit on the fly
rain grove
Battlefield isnt a competetive game
vestal notch
Do you guys still play BF5?
I heard its not very good? So I stuck to BF4
rain grove
you have 32 players on the team
gray saffron
bf5 is amazeballs
it's good
worth it espeically for the prices it goes these days
rain grove
its not like its R6
vestal notch
Didnt they discontinue it?
rain grove
where you have to depend on your team
gray saffron
gameplay is the best in series
rain grove
and yes BFV is great
echo turtle
Even if the tutorial is basic as hell it will benefit you greatly if your teammates knows how to play it properly
rain grove
y'know that even R6S doesnt ever put you into a tutorial
wheat badge
Is sneak peek out?
gray saffron
yeah they stopped creating content. so no more new maps/weapons and what not. we still getting new cosmetics in the armory though. but from now on it's just new weekly missions, new patches and fixes and weekly playlist rotations
no sneak peek for today bfv
brave coral
this is exactly my point @echo turtle
gray saffron
essentially, bf5 is now finished. just like bf4 or bf1 etc
rain grove
as long as tutorials are skippable everyone is fine
brave coral
like, worst case, you’re down a couple minutes but your teammates know how to cap/defend an objective, build fortifications, throw ammo/meds
rain grove
if they know how to do it then whats the problem
brave coral
i just... don’t see why you’re so hung up on it has to be skippable
sand wing
Butt hurt much
rain grove
Because I've played BF in the past and I know how to do all the shit
brave coral
so when they introduce new mechanics? what then
echo turtle
What about Billy who just got the game and who also has not played a single game in the franchise?
brave coral
ah yes, a cinematic trailer, the best way of learning how to play a game
echo turtle
As helpful as a video is an interactive experience is a lot more helpful
brave coral
you could even make it so veteran players can skip
rain grove
listen, I'm not saying that TUTORIALS should not exist, I'm saying they should be skippable
brave coral
but then... it’s 5 minutes of your time
echo turtle
Actually doing it has a greater effect than having Johnny420x explain the controls to you alongside the mechanics
rain grove
Its not like a 4 year old child is gonna get an 18+ game for his birthday
echo turtle
You would be amazed
eager shore
Oh you would be amazed.
eager shore
Even 30 year olds can be dumb enough to not know how to play a video game.
rain grove
I know that too
brave coral
you’d also be amazed at how many people who play an 18+ game are incredibly opposed to being told basic instructions, but here we are
rain grove
but if they think they have to do the tutorial, they'll do it
And because BF is not and never was a competetive game, having 1 person learning the game is not going to struck you in the ass
gray saffron
i feel this discussion on whether introduction missions should contain tutorials has derailed a bit ;D
or well, doesn't go nowhere
echo turtle
How about half your team
rain grove
This hasn't gone anywhere
im literally tired of typing
and you guys completely disagree with the option that tutorials should be skippable
gray saffron
in these cases it's good to say you agree to disagree, don't you agree? 😄
rain grove
Yeah, its common
echo turtle
Having a tutorial is good also having said tutorial be skippable is good
rain grove
and unless its really a complex game, which bf has never been, tutorials should be skippable
brave coral
i’m just curious why you feel personally attacked by the suggestion that maybe it would benefit everyone if a new player was given a guide on how to do the thing
bf is actually fairly complex in that there’s a lot of stuff going on, although a lot of it is pretty simple
tough lodge
Guys im level 99 and the gale facepaint is still locked
rain grove
I never said tutorials should exist
tough lodge
brave coral
it’s just a case of telling people that this is a thing that exists in the game, here’s how you do it
rain grove
I said they should be skippable, THATS IT
I dont want to argue
anymore
because this is boring and doesnt go anywhere
rain grove
sure
prime pine
Bar time
wet fossil
Christ this one guy was camping a single AA position on Panzerstorm F point the entire match
I blew up that fucking gun twice and he came back both times
Neither time was I in a plane.
First time, me and my squadmate dropped a smoke barrage on top of him and slapped him with bazookas
Second time, just blew his arse up with a tank.
brave coral
k
wet fossil
But like seriously
echo turtle
Give that guy a medal for being persistent
wet fossil
There are better places to camp
brave coral
do you have some personal vendetta against AA guns?
wet fossil
If they insist on hiding on them for half an hour straight, yes
rain grove
I shot a plane out of the sky with a bazooka yesterday and today
hopefully the streak continues
wet fossil
The guy certainly knew how to fight back against infantry with it
So he was a surprisingly tough nut to crack
brave coral
i’ve never intentionally taken down a plane with a launcher other than the fliegerfaust
however, i once accidentally killed a plane with a PIAT lmao
rain grove
Fliegerfaust feels very bad now
brave coral
trying to use it as a mortar vs a tank across the way
brave coral
flieger is basically as strong as it’s ever been? the only time it was more powerful was when it first released, and that was because it was easier to use
rain grove
Flieger is sort of strong but not as strong as it was before
brave coral
yeah i think there was maybe some misinterpretation of tweets
rain grove
I never use it
brave coral
the main thing is that it’s not very versatile
like you can literally only use it against planes to any effect
so people tend to not use it
wet fossil
Alright, do I take extra main gun ammo or supply drops for the P-70?
I never run out of ammo because I'm always running back for more rockets
But getting it would put me on the path for spotting scope
rain grove
and its bad because if you dont hit all of the shots, you will most likely not get the the hit on the 2nd time meaning the plane will survive and come back to get your butt
gray saffron
what does supply drops replace?
wet fossil
Nothing, it's a free slot
brave coral
which led to complaints about a lack of counters to planes which were by that point plenty counterable, reddit just doesn’t know how to build an AA gun or switch gadgets apparently
@rain grove trust me, it shouldn’t be OHK
rain grove
Redditorial
brave coral
if only extra main gun ammo allows you to get the spotting camera i would get that tbh
rain grove
but at least the planes have been sort of nerfed and almost all lvl250 plane mains are gone
brave coral
true
wet fossil
Now for the Mustang
brave coral
or at least, i’ll take your word for it
wet fossil
They just had to make decent cooling opposed to improved controls...
Seriously these 50s overheat at the drop of a hat
brave coral
i’ve barely been able to use any of the new US planes, haven’t even levelled one up i don’t think lol
i mean, it makes sense, you want damage output or mobility?
wet fossil
The 109 gets to have both
Also the fact that the 109 and Mustang both get to have rockets as standard
While the British planes still haven't been rebalanced
God seriously this damn Spitfire VB
A grand total of two HMGs
A useless nitro
Crappy fast repair
All necessary to just get rockets for the damn thing
rain grove
They should keep on making bundles
it makes the game fun
sort of
you have something to play for
wet fossil
Oh and of course I should mention that this shit nitro replaces emergency repair
rain grove
grinding n stuff
gray saffron
'" i'm alive, i'm alive!! thanks for that!" fisher's lines are so cute
brave coral
i mean they have always done bundles, the sneak peeks were just a limited event
wheat badge
@brave coral hey
brave coral
...hi?
rain grove
no but the daily deals were really fun
wheat badge
Why is no sneak peek today
brave coral
because there isn’t
rain grove
I feel like they made many people return to the game
brave coral
probably misinterpretation of the tweet
wheat badge
I think the last one must be today
gray saffron
till tuesday. people thought it would get one more update ON tuesday. but if steam sales say till 31st of tuesday or whatever, you usally dont get another day on tuesday
brave coral
last one was yesterday
@gray saffron 31st of tuesday? tbh most of 2020 has felt like that
but yeah ik what you mean
rain grove
have you guys seen the 4546B postcard?
gray saffron
just a random date xd
brave coral
@rain grove ??
rain grove
I mean on steam
gray saffron
ugh why is domination included with the frontlines mode. it's just a bunch of sweaties running around with fast firing rifles
gray saffron
i just wanted to play some frontlines 😫
brave coral
i’ll be honest idk what any of that means lmao
@gray saffron just hop in on the last rush map or the first frontlines map and stay for those
wheat badge
What tank body or plane skin should i buy with 20k cc? 
brave coral
but yeah domination does tend to be pretty sweaty lol, you gotta play very mobile and fast to avoid that one clan squad who are constantly just hoovering up the maps
rain grove
that'd be weird
brave coral
we could potentially get a sneak peek or just a regular bundle on thursday
rain grove
next or this?
hollow igloo
So sneak peek done for now
rain grove
btw do you guys ever wonder about whats left in the files
and especially how devs said that chapter 6 was gonna be the "last" chapter
which was not clearly not the case
pale meteor
Does anyone know that the free cosmetic we get on every Thursday how long can we get?
rain grove
Also I find this a bit funny but in the files there is the LAD machine gun which was used by the russians, which was a prototype actually
pale meteor
I mean I'm not at home until Sunday
hollow igloo
No we don’t know what’s going on lol
pale meteor
And I want to get the free stuff
rain grove
Maybe it was a glitch in the system
pale meteor
Well it is a luck for me because I'm not at home 😄
rain grove
@brave coral when did they say that we have until tuesday? (sneak peeks)
brave coral
@rain grove on twitter
pale meteor
Check freeman's twitter
rain grove
Freeman?
brave coral
but they said it’s every day until tuesday, we assumed that meant including tuesday but i guess not
rain grove
he only said we have 20 hours left to pick up that bundle
pale meteor
Remember when someone asked in December 2018 about the MG42 Jager skin
Got a reply soon
rain grove
dont know bout that one
pale meteor
rain grove
only the coming soon trademark
now i feel a lil sad again because I missed out on buying those 2 great bundles in the first days of the event
pale meteor
Does anyone know that the free cosmetic we get on every Thursday how long can we get?
@pale meteor this is still a question
rain grove
btw do you think they might do the road to BF6 again?
brave coral
@rain grove the bundles will be available again btw, just a bit more expensive and not with a 24hr timer
i think it said 1500 which is still very good value on those first two bundles
rain grove
oh yes but it will take me 8 weeks to get to 1500
also why didnt they release siegfried
the darth vader of battlefield
brave coral
not in the files currently
rain grove
they deleted it
brave coral
probably will come in like a month’s time or so with the american dude
rain grove
pretty sure
brave coral
well, removed from the retail version
gray saffron
prolly due the backlash they received when they released fisher and akira. (WHY DICE RELEASING PAID DLC WHEN THEY SAID THEY STOPPED CONTENT!? EA GREEDY AS FLIPS!)
rain grove
they should do chapter 7
brave coral
but by no means does that mean scrapped, since he already had all his assets and a full elite trailer
yeah @gray saffron people are still doing that with the sneak peeks and just generally anything available for boins lol
rain grove
its really weird for a live service game to end so soon
gray saffron
Gah, while atleast that can fly a lot more below radar since they dont get trailer releases ;D
brave coral
it had like 18 months of support, that’s a decent length
brave coral
but i think there’s a bunch of reasons it was cut short, the devs definitely wanted it to go for longer
rain grove
yes
I mean we have so much stuff inside the files
even a russian prototype MG
also its very weird to me that they ever release the german bazooka
brave coral
i’ll never get over the hypocrisy of parts of the community (particularly reddit) basically saying “bfv sux” “cancel bfv” etc and then when they went “ok we’re cutting support” they went “actually we like the game fuck you”
actually not even that
rain grove
do you remember how BFV Beta had combat roles/traits
it wasnt like medics only have SMG's
brave coral
they were almost triumphant when the announcement was made, it wasn’t until a couple months later that they realised actually they like the game but even then it’s entitlement
that wasn’t beta, that was like pre alpha
brave coral
nah
brave coral
the more in depth combat roles i think weren’t even in a live build of the game
it’s an interesting concept for sure
rain grove
also it would've been cool if every faction had its own weapons
but they'd be balanced
brave coral
my issue comes from like... if you’re locking stuff to different subclasses, what stops them from just being individual classes?
rain grove
Germans have german guns
brave coral
nah faction locked stuff tends to be more frustrating and difficult to balance
uneven hollow
Which is understandable
rain grove
Type2a is the worst
uneven hollow
Unless it’s a pure allies and axis weapons only
rain grove
thats why there should be faction locks
brave coral
it’s not really a battlefield thing though, like it works in a milsim but the brits would literally have one weapon in the assault class (and even that wasn’t widely used)
rain grove
But like remember BF3
brave coral
it sounds good but plays bad
brave coral
because real life isn’t balanced, it’s not made from a game design perspective
idle breach
what about weapons used in both sides
faction locking just won't work and pointless in bfv
brave coral
besides, people already complain about a supposed lack of weapons (despite bfv having the second most primary weapons in the franchise), now split them between 4 factions
rain grove
I hope we get the ak47 in bf6 then
brave coral
it also means you can’t really have random niche guns like the suomi, since we don’t have the faction it was used by
rain grove
what about the ak47 and 74
brave coral
yeah in a modern game an updated AK is more likely
idle breach
it was used by germans and soviets and
rain grove
but fighting soviets as Finns
idle breach
like almost every early war weapons were used in both sides
prime pine
I play as a japanese with the bren or fg42 cause why not
idle breach
mkb42 could have been its own weapon
uneven hollow
I mean it’s alright if the Germans and japs used the axis weapons and vise versa right Mr smoke
idle breach
could use some more assault rifle i guess
rain grove
i dont want to see japs use stgs or mp40s
but its how the game is
and if this happened my way people would be upset yet they would still play the game
maybe in the future people will look back to BFV and say that it wasnt that bad tbf
like with infinity warfare
it feels like thats whats happening with bf right now
idle breach
entitled gamers would just die off by heart attack or whatever. their opinion doesn't really count anyway
rain grove
CoD had IW, they failed, BF had BF1 which was a massive success, now we have BFV which is a somewhat of a fail for many people and they have MW which is basically the best in the series
idle breach
not like they're throwing some good money in the industry
rain grove
am I an entitled gamer?
idle breach
yeah
rain grove
Xue Hua Piao Piao
idle breach
pacific maps are good
rain grove
so you are talking Narvik?
idle breach
sure
rain grove
too much coke
idle breach
good map for you 1hk tanks and still not getting haccused
but i'm pretty sure there would be some dumbass still haccuse someone doing kamikaze like
rain grove
i sometimes wonder how did people go for lvl500
idle breach
i don't get mad at being haccused sometimes since in poor network condition some players really look like they're doing jedi shit
rain grove
I love the game but I cant play it constantly when there is nothing new to buy in the armory
which requires CC
rain grove
Do you know what happened the day before yesterday
idle breach
yes
pale meteor
You have a plenty of time until the next battlefield game to buy them
rain grove
VIER NEUNZIG were missing from my pocket
I cried day and night
because I would have to buy it for 50k
idle breach
why you dont have enough money
you should have enough money big smoke
isnt money the reason you betrayed your friends?
rain grove
I died a while ago
idle breach
what happened to your house
rain grove
Idk?
idle breach
you had like some giant mansion on vinewood hill?
rain grove
CJ shot me
idle breach
sue his ass
brave coral
honestly i know the bit you mean but i don’t recall noticing stukas
like i’m fairly sure the planes would be mosquito bombers
prime pine
Yeah theyre mosquito's
thorny sierra
but the mosquito bomber is a british aircraft and not an american one
and i didnt know mosquito bombers could do the siren thing
i thought its just the stuka
idle breach
PROBABLY JUST MISTAKE OR SOMETHIN
uneven hollow
I mean there wasn’t an American faction in said game yet
And also probably gameplay reasons
So you can hear where they are
brave coral
mosquito was used by various factions, although it’s british made. and i think the noise is probably just general plane noise.
brave coral
if you didn’t see the stuka (which is a fairly distinct shape) then it probably wasn’t a stuka
devout jackal
го бф5
digital kiln
storm variants of LMGS are fucking amazing in bf1 holy shit
theyre just ars but better at this point
no point in playing assault anymire
main grove
Uh my god
The Ithaca
It’s good even at somewhat short to mid range
I wish other shotguns had the damage potential that one has
main grove
I’m using the drilling now and doing ok with it
Domeing a lot of people who are trying to snipe me
brave coral
yeah drilling is pretty nice, the main issue i have is that double barrel reload
main grove
It could still do with a fat range increase
brave coral
it’s so slow, feels artificially lengthened
main grove
The reload would be ok if the range was fucking crazy on the buckshot
brave coral
yeah
main grove
Like up to 30m OHK
dense bone
i thought drilling had a decent OHK range
brave coral
instead it has one of the longest reloads outside of bolt actions and the liberator
i mean it’s decent, but it’s not incredible
not good enough to warrant a 3 and a half second reload on a gun that can shoot twice
main grove
It still is somewhat of a low tier gun
Compared to stuff like the Ithaca
Like it needs either a reload or range buff
I’d like the range buff
brave coral
if it had a faster reload (doesn’t have to be like doom shotgun, but somewhere in the 1.5-2 second range ideally) then it would jump quite a lot in my ranking
brave coral
range buff would be nice but reload is a lot more reasonable
the 725 from MW has/had pretty silly range and it got a very bad reputation along with anyone who used it
in fairness i’d say it’s pretty justified to be pissed when you get shot in the leg by three pellets from 25 metres and instantly die
prime pine
I love abusing people internationally
Had a bunch of what I presume to be, Europeans (they were at 300 ping) just go in fighters all game
May as well abuse the flieger faust while its literally broken
There are no morals with this game
icy sluice
iTs nOt BroKeN, itS toTalLy BaLaNCeD
coral fiber
Mhmm
prime pine
Don't worry, dice made it as it is, it must be balanced
brave coral
honestly sometimes i’m like “haha i’ll abuse this broken thing” and sometimes i’m like “nah”
prime pine
We're just uneducated
brave coral
i think to some degree it depends why it’s broken
coral fiber
Yes it is balanced
I come in massive numbers
prime pine
Ye
brave coral
like is it intentional, but shit? in that case i might do it
if it’s bugged and broken i often won’t use it
dense bone
i think its weird people expect a casual game with 64 players where you can randomly get a vehicle that can x5 your kdr has to have everything balanced
brave coral
but it also depends if it’s a thing i would normally use as well
icy sluice
Dude I love flying over Panzerstorm to see 6 Wirbelwinds trying to hit me at once
brave coral
i won’t go out of my way to use broke. stuff
coral fiber
That is my purpose
Ruining pilot killstreaks
icy sluice
Won't ruin my Recon Killstreak of 70 tho
coral fiber
brave coral
but yeah AA stuff is broken at the moment, there was literally no reason to change it from 6.4
dense bone
fuck planes
coral fiber
^
brave coral
i’m not particularly inclined to listen to a guy cosplaying a wirbelwind talking about how AA is balanced lol
coral fiber
XD
brave coral
also my phone wanted to correct wirbelwind to wiener wind lmao
dense bone
i wish you sent that
brave coral
it’s mostly the range that is just... excessive
like a single MAA can literally lock down a sector on breakthrough and not even be reachable by attacking infantry
brave coral
honestly yeah i’ve avoided flying generally for a while just because of how dumb the AA is currently, but i’ve been hopping on AA guns a bit
there was at least two maps where i was like “huh i can literally shoot planes as they spawn”
coral fiber
Pretty much yeah
wet fossil
Iwo Jima's pretty bad for that
Also on the matter of campers there, I've noticed a trend of LVTs just sitting on the ship and acting as shore bombardment batteries
Very ineffectually.
But they're painted the same shade as the ship and the shore guns don't usually have a good angle to see them clearly
brave coral
yeah people like to sit back in tanks, the tanks spawn basically as far back as possible in the map, more range = better
coral fiber
Im pretty sure the TTK of the Pacific MAA guns are 1 second
brave coral
you do quite often get a firing line of lvts and snipers on that first island where you’re way too far away to actually be of any effect at the objectively
thorny sierra
if you didn’t see the stuka (which is a fairly distinct shape) then it probably wasn’t a stuka
@brave coral it was seen , thats the problem , but since im not very good in knowing the model of the planes by just looking at them , i asked you guys
brave coral
that wasn’t made particularly clear, and if it was that you wanted help identifying the plane, make that more clear - the way your post was worded made it sound like you had identified the planes as stukas and wanted to know why they were used
thorny sierra
well , i thought they were stukas , since of the yellow lines on the wings , but as i said , it confused me and i thought its just a misplaced asset
brave coral
could reasonably easily take a screenshot and upload it with your question on reddit like “is this a stuka? it sounded like it but doesn’t make much sense since it’s a german plane”
like it would be a pretty big case of misused/misplaced assets to have stukas in a mission where a german tank is being attacked by allied planes
thorny sierra
true , im sorry for the "bad post" i posted , have a good day
hollow igloo
So no sneak peek today ?
prime pine
The problem with the flieger faust is the bonus they have on fighters
You know
Less fighters means more bombere
Means for frustration
Cause if your side can take care of the fighters with aa guns and fliegers it makes an even larger problem
But people are too stupid to think that
brave coral
that target tug blen skin looks nice in game
feral glade
trench coat with short pants
dreamy raptor
Hello battlefield
modest vigil
How do you aim with the hovering tanks in bf4?
gray saffron
wtf, full server and yet us 3 won best squad haha
icy sluice
Oh gotta love 3 man best squads
gray saffron
it was a nice suprise ;D
dense bone
dayum by 100 points too
icy sluice
I remember getting 3 man best squad with like 5k point differences
gray saffron
damn nice
coral fiber
Nice
icy sluice
So like, I was in the Xbox menu for too long and my photographer got kicked for inactivity
solid hinge
ok
prime pine
Garand with lightened stock and a nydar feels good
coral fiber
F
solid hinge
go dammit i just want help
icy sluice
!!support
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icy sluice
Either go there or Google, this discord isn't really a support group.
prime pine
Whew
coral fiber
💯
arctic dew
👍 👍 👍 👍
sleek trail
Every game its just people with 150 ping dominating the server 🤣🤣🤣 what an absolute joke bf has become
feral glade
uninstall origin then reinstall
and/or check your firewall in case your games were quarentened
ornate sail
I used to think Metro was the worst Battlefield map, but they outdid themselves.
prime pine
150 ping... dominating the server. Right
I mean im not saying i don't believe it
More like
It tells you how fucking stupid the receiving end it
rain grove
boys
candid flicker
What's the best hip fire gun for medic in your opinion guys?
rain grove
Imagine DICE goes all out on the next Battlefield and includes vehicle interiors, like if you drive a tank in first person you can see the inside of the tank and how you operate it. If you press RMB it zooms in the scope and after you shoot an NPC reloads the cannon meanwhile you have that circle thingy like in Battlefield V and when its over the guy yells ready! That'd be sick, but probably won't ever happen.
And maybe it has full vehicle enter animations
Even though they are really annoying because half of the time you get killed.
golden ocean
Yup, that would be really cool
tight rain
Agreed
shy badger
wtf, full server and yet us 3 won best squad haha
@gray saffron arvz
latent dagger
dense bone
@rain grove thatd be cool but i imagine only a novelty and not worth the dev time to include all that
rain grove
@rain grove thatd be cool but i imagine only a novelty and not worth the dev time to include all that
@dense bone we'll see it in the future anyway, I'm sure
dense bone
would be a waste of time imo
rain grove
If they went all out it would be the best game of the series
and if they included tank interiors like no other game has
dense bone
adding vehicle interiors doesnt add to quality imo
rain grove
Yeah, but it adds to immersion
dense bone
bleh, that word
scenic beacon
look where it got us lol
novel lynx
Do u guys think the new game will be modern
dense bone
yes
fossil heron
prime pine
My anus is ready
fossil heron
Well you took my speech away
prime pine
Hey creamy did you see that link I sent you
fossil heron
I didnt
prime pine
Its pretty funny
fossil heron
Lets see
coral fiber
Oh no
fossil heron
Where'd ya send it?@prime pine
prime pine
Xbox messager @fossil heron
fossil heron
Lmao the yelp@prime pine
fossil heron
That's how a body would act tbh lol
fossil heron
Crunch
Bounce
Crunch
prime pine
In reality it would turn into red meat
With a splatter
But like
With that energy he just rebounds
fossil heron
Pink mist everywhere
prime pine
How are you anyways man
shy badger
Lol that meme is so true creamy
shy badger
Even greyhound>shermy in EU
hollow igloo
Wait so no sneak peek today ?
prime pine
No
shy badger
NOOT NOOT
shy badger
Ah I was close!
prime pine
Hey blackout I haven't been talking much recently as of late funny enough
Hea.... you fucked uo the noot noot you monster
shy badger
Sorry
prime pine
Not today but in the others days you just.... how could you!?
shy badger
Its just that I try to noot joot you first
shy badger
:CCC
shy badger
Sorry pc
shy badger
What about you
prime pine
Imum
Asides from family being a bunch of FUCKING ASSHOLES im doing fine beating the shit of people in battlefield @shy badger
solid hinge
I’m trying to do the fort de Vaux Easter egg in bf1 and someone is making it where I can’t hear the monster screaming.
shy badger
Beating peeps in bf is always good
Hopefully it'll get better with the fam stuff tho :(
solid hinge
hello!
solid hinge
how r ya?
prime pine
Yeah thanks black, honestly it'll take a long time till they leave us alone
Elll uhhh
I just said hahaha
How are you
solid hinge
im fine, which bf do u play?
prime pine
Bf5
solid hinge
nice, i play bf4, hardline and bf3
shy badger
Is hardline even alive
prime pine
On console it is
shy badger
Last time I playes there was only 1 server on pc eu lol
solid hinge
ya! bunch of servers r active. Yes i am on console. PS4 TO BE SPECIFIC
sorry for caps
dense bone
!!r4 @solid hinge
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dense bone
im just a regular warning you so mods dont get on you, i really dont care if you change it or not
formal linden
You’re username isn’t all funky letters
dense bone
where does it read it has to be all funky letters?
dense bone
"Blank names & disruptive or unusual unicode characters such as zalgo aren't allowed."
solid hinge
so wht shud i do bout it?
dense bone
change it to MJ23?
formal linden
Change it?
dense bone
otherwise mods normally change it to this
solid hinge
whtever man
dense bone
dense bone
i always thought the idea was so that they were easily pingable, but thats been denied, so i really dont know the reason behind having standard names
uneven hollow
I mean
solid hinge
aight man
dense bone
at this point im just gonna stop warning people, they always get offended like im the one that made the rule
solid hinge
than what?
prime pine
?
brave garnet
Tank in a bowl
dense bone
im just warning to they dont get shit later, thats really all my intentions
solid hinge
wow, thats nice
dense bone
but at the same time people get mad when i flag them down irl to tell them their lights are off
brave coral
@dense bone people get offended when you tell them they’re doing something wrong, even if it’s just “hey do this now so mods don’t ban you for it later” lol
dense bone
im just trying to be the friendly warning =[
tight rain
How dare you
solid hinge
honestly jus let tha man do his job, if u have a problem with him then screw off
dense bone
but that bfv though am i right
i actually havent played bfv in probably a month now...
solid hinge
lol i was thinking to buy it, is it worth it tho?
dense bone
under 20 bucks easily
uneven hollow
It’s alright I would say
prime pine
Oh dr
dense bone
its been on sale for 15 usd lately
uneven hollow
solid hinge
lol lmao
uneven hollow
Tbh would’ve been poggers if that one headgear that covers your eye would just block screen
brave garnet
Did you have a stroke?
uneven hollow
brave garnet
Having a stroke
prime pine
Imalive
wheat badge
Got a 42 kills 0 death game 😎
dense bone
niceu
prime pine
Haha bren go brbrt
dense bone
haha nyphon go cry