#battlefield-legacy-titles

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digital kiln
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@onyx stone what do you play on lmao?

feral glade
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you gotta look at the future of gaming

solid hinge
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damn you guys sound like old people

onyx stone
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Ps4

midnight ether
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i mean does 21 count as old ?

solid hinge
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64 players and the maps are too big already

midnight ether
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probably yea

feral glade
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64 player single maps are old school already

digital kiln
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i always have full servers on xbox wtf

solid hinge
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You understand map size won't shrink cause of more players

feral glade
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the tech is here for seamless multi map game play

digital kiln
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i feel like it should b the same on ps4

onyx stone
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Good thing its a Łukow pass from the in the name of the tzar expansion

feral glade
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ever play planet side?

solid hinge
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Yes

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It's far to fucking big

midnight ether
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bf1 is way harder than bfv lol

digital kiln
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just got into a map called brusilov keep i dont think ive played this one yet wtf

feral glade
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where you can decide what part of the world you can spawn on?

digital kiln
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h o w

midnight ether
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i got destroyed as soon as i spawned in

solid hinge
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Even so it's far too big

feral glade
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well thats planet side this is battlefield

solid hinge
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You spawn and meet very few people and have to respawn or run again

onyx stone
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WHAT IS THIS SHIT? HUH

feral glade
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and bf will do it up right and proper

onyx stone
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Its ballroom blitz?

solid hinge
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imagine how big the game file would have to be to have a bunch of 300 player maps

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each map would have to be bigger than gtav

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Bf does fine with 64 players

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gta alone is like, 100+ gigs

feral glade
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you familiar with ram drives?

onyx stone
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I thought it was Łukow pass Nooo 😩 😩 😩

solid hinge
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i dont want a 10tb game

feral glade
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again you fuckers are like a bunch of old guys...lol

solid hinge
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Funny

feral glade
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why not if its free?

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and all you gotta do is buy the kits you want to play

solid hinge
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10TB isn't that cheap

feral glade
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well it blew my mind when TB drives first came out

onyx stone
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We are so fucked on command post B two ranks 10 players charging , yet we still hol- AH SHI- Dead

feral glade
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everything is relative

onyx stone
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*tanks

feral glade
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tomorrows tech will cost as much as todays even though it faster and bigger

solid hinge
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Pushing bf to 100 players would be enough

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Just don't increase the map size

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Hamada is too big

midnight ether
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i hate how im literally the other side of the world and the most populated servers are NA

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like wtf

solid hinge
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Most maps in bfv could fit 100 players just fine

midnight ether
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i actually like the size of bfv maps

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not too big not too small

solid hinge
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Hamada is too big

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Fjell is too small

midnight ether
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Fjell is just hell

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literal hell

solid hinge
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Fjell is just planes and snipers

midnight ether
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yea

solid hinge
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Hamada is just a running sim

tough lodge
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Hamada

solid hinge
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It's cool how battlefield gets big maps and show that off but it's boring as fuck

midnight ether
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what game mode is the map operation underground on ?

solid hinge
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I want to be shooting at people for 10 mins not running for 10 mins

tough lodge
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Panzerstorm is boring as infantry

feral glade
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aint boring to me...i play hamada like a chess game

solid hinge
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I don't even play. Panzerstorm

tough lodge
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I dont play conquest

feral glade
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i try and get and keep the flags on my side of the map

tough lodge
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Conquest is boring in this game

solid hinge
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Chess is boring

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I still play chess but it's boring

feral glade
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then i try and get just one flag on the other side

solid hinge
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@tough lodge that wojack emoji funni

tough lodge
solid hinge
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haha

feral glade
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chess aint boring if your fending off a tiger tank

solid hinge
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I just see it as a hammerhead with lips

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and bfv conquest is fun to me, its just people campy passive playstyles that make the game unfun sometimes

tough lodge
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Every map is best on breakthrough except first sector of provence

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As americans

feral glade
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most dont even play conquest as its supposed to be played

solid hinge
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Any map as Americans VS germans on breakthrough is cancer

feral glade
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its about dominating most not all of the maps

tough lodge
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Conquest is running around simulator

solid hinge
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Americans are absolutely dog shit compared to the germans in bfv

feral glade
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if you try and go for all the maps you leave yourself open

tough lodge
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Indie company no bitching

feral glade
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im a german american how do i fit in with your analogy?

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my moms german my dads american and i was born in germany

solid hinge
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Ok

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Nice

tough lodge
feral glade
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i spent half my life there and half here at different times

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as wellas a couple years in italy

solid hinge
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I don't think anyone cares but thank you for the information

feral glade
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but i do tend to agree with you

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fuck you too....lol

solid hinge
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dustin give me nitro

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so i can use my emojis

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Americans are just pointless in BFV tho

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Balanced when fighting the japanese

feral glade
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your the one who said somethin g like germans play bf better than americans

solid hinge
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But germans you barely stand a chance

tough lodge
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@solid hinge my nitro is gifted

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just beg lol

solid hinge
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i have nitro on my other account

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but not this one

feral glade
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INOOBZIEZ [PS4/EU]GBToday at 9:52 PM
Americans are absolutely dog shit compared to the germans in bfv

tough lodge
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Then use it

solid hinge
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Americans are absolutely dog shit compared to the germans in bfv

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i got two phones

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I didn't say germans play bf better

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I said the German team in. Bfv is better

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he means the balance on us vs germany

feral glade
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well i can say console players are dog shit compared to PC players but my heart aint into it

solid hinge
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No idea

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I'm too tired

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Maybe you are right

uneven hollow
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Which one would be the better team brits or japs

solid hinge
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Brits

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They have better planes aand tanks

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That's pretty much how germans beat Americans in BFV

uneven hollow
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Indeed but at last they didn’t put it in

solid hinge
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They need to add better counters for the americans

uneven hollow
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Italians

solid hinge
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give americans churchill

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Or bringing the British heavy tank to americans

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on us vs germany maps

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jinx

uneven hollow
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Tbh adding the staghound would be noice

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Due to rockets

solid hinge
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Easy solution but DICE would tell us to go fuck our self

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the t34 is so annoying

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Idk what that is

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on provence, all vehicle whores do is camp in america spawn and spam it all round

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I found bfv unplayable after bf4

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its hard to enjoy bf4

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atm

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BfV has so many noticeable bugs compared to bf4

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I found it unplayable

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i still love bf4 but its so clunky

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And the fact bfv is full of campers

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Bf4 isn't so bad when you get used to it

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And the fact customising your controls in bfv breaks them is cancer

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i never noticed that

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Happened to mr

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Me

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I tried resetting it and doing it all again but gave up after 5 tries

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i got crouch/slide on r stick button

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and i got manual leaning

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left and right

uneven hollow
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Stag hound mini T34

feral glade
uneven crypt
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Are some of the random explosions that occur in battlefield actually player made? Or are they just for cosmetic purposes by ai?

solid hinge
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Pretty sure it's players

uneven hollow
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Player made of course it’s 32v32

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By tank bois plane bois infantry bois or reinforcement bois

solid hinge
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That list is cancer

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i tried having fun in a sturmtiger but the driver is a idiot

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he kept turning sideways not realizing the gunners have to see too

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Bf4 players are better than bfv players

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and kept being sporadic

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Bf4 players know what they are doing but bfv players are fucking idiots

tough lodge
solid hinge
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call me shit player but bf4 vehicle balance shit

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Bf4 tank balance is better than bfv

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infantry vehicle balance is shit

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It's easy to kill a tank

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If you play stupid of course you struggle

deep forge
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I love japs with Lewis guns

solid hinge
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i take tanks out easy

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with m2 jeep

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helis are cancer

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Bf4 tank players are skilled enough to take you out

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BfV tank players just sit there and do fuck all

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and im skilled enough to send two rockets to their rear for 2-3 hit kill

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doesnt stop them from being annoying

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infantry farming is shit

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Bf4 players rush and pull it off nicely or die trying but bfv they sit there and get nothing done

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that cause bfv kinda encourages that

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hopefully wont be that way in text game, so i can put old ole bf4 to rest

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I wish I could put bf4 to rest but DICE probably pull Vietnam out their arse to be dick heads

uneven hollow
solid hinge
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i suffer through bf4 cause i miss modern

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I CBA with the history bullshit

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and i would like a fresh bf take on it

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same

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1 world war game is enough

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It's cancer playing a battlefield game without the battlefield

uneven hollow
solid hinge
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i would settle for a modern game with bf5 movement and and gunplay, but if they can do better

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that would be lovely

uneven hollow
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Purple vs reds

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Blues vs green

solid hinge
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Toy soldiers

uneven hollow
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Orange vs brown

solid hinge
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There used to be this toy soldiers game on the old xbox

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I played it aalot

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Lots of fun

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It was 3rd or 1st person from memory but I was like 5 years old

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i hope they dont change any of the current game mechanics

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and if they do, only improve upon how they are now

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i like attrition and i'll be damned if they remove it cause the people who dont like it

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If the next game isn't battlefield I probably won't spend money

uneven hollow
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Bf ww2 hardline

solid hinge
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I just move to COD and join the racism and sexism

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Better than another history lesson with DICE

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i prob will when i get a pc

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i need a new modern shooter fix

uneven hollow
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I mean atleast cod has hardcore

solid hinge
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and battlefield didnt give us one

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It's in battlefield Community for sure

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@solid hinge it is, but cod is way worse and blatant

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It's just every server has it with COD

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peeps in battlefield community are coy with it

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I haven't had a server without racism or sexism

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cod, is just straight up open and very verbal

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with their racism and sexism

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Just go om youtube

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On

uneven hollow
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And dumbism

wide goblet
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Im pretty sure that racism and sexism is founded in nearly every community

uneven hollow
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But mostly in cod

solid hinge
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Yes but COD its everywhere

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Every server is full of the pricks

uneven hollow
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Hence the both team parties can speak to each other

solid hinge
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It's funny

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@wide goblet read what i just said

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But it's not nice

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not saying its not present in any community

uneven hollow
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Now imagine if it was 50v50

solid hinge
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its just that cod is way more toxic and verbal with it

uneven hollow
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Or better yet imagine if it was 100v100 that both team parties can speak to each other

wide goblet
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Lol okay

solid hinge
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I enjoy listening to people talking shit to each other but they say some bad stuff

uneven hollow
solid hinge
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bruh

uneven hollow
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Indeed

solid hinge
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COD 50V50 was pure cancer

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well im banned, nice knowing yall

uneven hollow
solid hinge
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Not how that works

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You say it repeatedly And you get banned

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i been muted like 4 times now

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I didn't even read it

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I'm too tired to speed read

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i said in response to mainyu 100v100 with open mic lobby that i could hear 200 tanners yelling

uneven hollow
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Indeed

solid hinge
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word

uneven hollow
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There’ll be tons

solid hinge
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insert

uneven hollow
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Arma idk how it works nothing

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Bf both teams nothing

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Cod both teams your a N

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Noice neighbore

solid hinge
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COD is pure cancer but its fun to listen to

uneven hollow
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Indeed

solid hinge
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Listening to them fighting over mic is funny

uneven hollow
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Especially if your friend is the one talking even tho they suck

solid hinge
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I don't use a mic cause I get mad and offensive when I lose

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COD players just go all out

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i dont use a mic cause i only have cheap ear phone mic and people generally dont understand my accent

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I hate the strong American accent

uneven hollow
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The Hispanics tho
Their something alright

solid hinge
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Idk why I just hate it

uneven hollow
solid hinge
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define american accent

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cause theres lots of diff distinct ones

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I wouldn't know

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I ask them and they say they american

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All I know is its annoying as fuck

uneven hollow
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Understandable

solid hinge
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British is also annoying

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No idea what the Welsh say

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ur very negative nooby

uneven hollow
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Very sarcastic they are the brits

solid hinge
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cmere, i'll give u a hug

uneven hollow
solid hinge
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Hugs are disgusting

uneven hollow
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Cuddle perhaps

solid hinge
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i'll find u in bf4 and prone on u

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as a hug

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I hate people irl

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Online it's fine

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I'm one of the special people

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i been wanting to play a bit of bf before i have to go to bed for work but it wont let me stay connect to EA

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tbh, tfw press square to connect to ea servers

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I was supposed to go to sleep 4 hours ago

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Discord be interesting

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idk any other battlefield communities other than here and reddit, and i refuse to participate on redditry

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so if i get banned or muted for 3 days, i'll miss yall

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I go on reddit to see some clips but that's all

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I avoid the chats

uneven hollow
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Tbh you think Reddit will approve of my kamikazes

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I doubt it

solid hinge
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Probably not since its bfv related

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i prefer discord to reddit cause discord is live

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and that makes for better conversation

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Also

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That random earlier

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Fong or something

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You could tell they was trying to be a dick head

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fony

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he done it before

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It's funny tho

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What stopped me from sleeping

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Red dead online takes so much time it's annoying

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I don't know why I still play it TBH

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They don't update it but I still play it alot

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Bf4 is pretty good atm

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i see u playing rd2

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and tomb raider

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Yeah

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I havnt played tomb raider in some time so it was good going back

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I don't play bf4 much cause rdr2 takes so much time

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Took me most of today to get 5 gold bars

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I need 60

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Omg they Need to fix sticky grenades it sticky to everything I don’t want it to stick too

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BfV?

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The sticky grenades are pure cancer

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They just get sucked to the closest wall or something when you throw it

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i never used them before

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i never used sticky grenades before and only used dynamite like, once

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cause the annoying stick immediately to the surface next to u

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instead of throwing it

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Same with sticky grenades

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Except its worst

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Cause you can't pick up the grenades after

uneven hollow
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Fony called me a troll

solid hinge
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Ironic

uneven hollow
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Indeed it’s not like I’m a regular or something

solid hinge
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I was gambling with the word "ironic"

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I can't even think rn

uneven hollow
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That’s why

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Fony is a troll

solid hinge
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I'ma go to sleep since I'm too tired

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See you later

uneven hollow
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Indeed later

solid hinge
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nini

wide goblet
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Anyone used the magnetic explosive in BFV?

prime pine
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The cone?

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Shaped charge

uneven hollow
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It’s either that or the type 99

digital kiln
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there are 17 servers almost full on xbox rn (bf1)

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on na serverss

brave garnet
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I do use the ice cream cone sometimes

wide goblet
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That thing takes a while to deploy but packs a bit of a punch

pastel cargo
fossil heron
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@digital kiln nice the sale helped

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Boost in Vs and 4s servers too

digital kiln
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poggers

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thats great news

uneven crypt
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What’s ur guys least favorite map? Mine is twisted steel

fossil heron
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Least favorite?

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Hamada by far

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Its not fun in any gamemode

uneven crypt
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This discord is kinda dead right now

echo turtle
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Happens

feral glade
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aint dead now

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whats the beat?

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lets get this straight...its a wednesday in early july

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no ones up for anything?

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anyone ever play PR?

merry marsh
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bruh

jade canopy
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The grand finale of the day.... sleep times
(( - - ))..zzzZZ

merry pelican
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Whats that
@shy badger project reality

modest vigil
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Dead.

mortal jackal
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Is it me or is it you

prime pine
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The type 99 charge is so bad

tardy walrus
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I need a Bf4 Sniping buddy

untold dust
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is there a website or smth where i can check the player and server counts of each bf game?

dull prism
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I can't decide weather or not continue to main bf4 or play more bf5... 😄 Yes you can say just play both and I can play both, but I prefer to have a main.

feral glade
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my main is bfv

dull prism
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I don't believe that site

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Where do they even grab their info from?

feral glade
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i just found it i dont know if it's corrector not

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it does change downward whenever I update it

dull prism
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Yeah it's bs

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Steamcharts.com is a trusted website, because unlike some companies steam actually publishes their player counts to everyone

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And you can simply compare games that are only on steam to that counter

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So a game like counter strike 1.6

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or Dota 2

feral glade
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its no big deal to me

dull prism
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Dota 2 on that trash site shows 700k people online right now whilst the official steam database only shows 373k

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Maybe not to you, it's just that a lot of people determine the quality of a game by the amount of people playing it, thus reading inaccurate sites like this gives a false representation of a games worth to them

feral glade
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there ar plenty of servers live for NA on PC

dull prism
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Getting back on topic though, I like bf5 like 60% of what it has

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There are plenty of really pissy things about it as well though

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Stuff like vehicles being trash and unbalanced

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Which is a big part of what makes Battlefield, Battlefield

feral glade
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well its just a fun game for the style of playing i like

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i dont like using optics and like to shoot from the hip

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bfv has crosshair support

dull prism
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What do you mean by that?

feral glade
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i go back to bf4 and 3 and hate using optics now that im enjoying the freedom on bfv

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i can shoot without aiming

dull prism
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...

feral glade
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i meani use the crosshairs to aim

dull prism
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You do realize how wrong that sounds for a war game xD

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Ahh 😄

feral glade
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its just a game bro

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and using crosshairs is old school

dull prism
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Idk, currently I kind of feel like there's only like 1-2 weapons viable for each class

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The rest are super underrated

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And there's quite little amount of weapons in general

feral glade
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thats always been like that in bf games

dull prism
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Not quite

feral glade
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the earlier guns are usually the best

dull prism
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In bf4 I can play quite good with all guns, obviously they are placed in different categories though, so you don't take a pdw on golmud and expect to nail people from 300m away

feral glade
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like in bf4 engineer i used the PP2000 the second one awarded

vale tide
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He said pp

feral glade
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my style is close up

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hehehe...PP

dull prism
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Damn all of those pdw's rocked

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All of 'em were quite good

feral glade
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Sso i like the fast and close smg and like to just hip fire

dull prism
feral glade
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but this has been my style since ive been gaming

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like from doom/quake 3 on

dull prism
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I use hipfire as well, just not alot, I do prefer to have sights

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That's one minor thing that triggers me about bf5

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There's like 3-4 sight types and that's it

feral glade
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yeh its a quasi-old school shooter

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reminds me of bf 42

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in style

dull prism
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By far the most annoying thing that pisses me off the most are the vehicles

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They're so terrible

feral glade
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i dont hve an opinion on the vrhicles

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thy remind me of bigger players...same dynamics as the infantry in a bigger package

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some or "run and gun" verhicles...the hounds and some are snippy types

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i get a hound i like to keep it moving and fire when on the move

dull prism
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Well, the basic vehicles like jeeps and what not are just transport, no one cares about those. Talking about tanks, most of them have a huge ass drop for some reason, like the stock sherman

feral glade
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im not fond of the heravier tanks...too slow

merry pelican
dull prism
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Tanks are also slow as fuck

amber pine
dull prism
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@merry pelican You deserve a veterans discount

digital kiln
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i hate people who take planes off spawn just to get to the enemy spawn

merry pelican
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yee

digital kiln
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they probably all die off the rip anyway

dull prism
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I mean a tiger should be able to drive anywhere from 15-40km/h

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In-game any guy sprints faster then that

feral glade
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just get me to the front lines with a smg and i do okay

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i use the suomi

dull prism
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The damage is also super rng with tanks

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A Panzer 4 for some reason is made out of paper and can literally be 2-3 shot

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On the other hand, I have been a brit and throw 2 dynamites on the back of a tiger, shot him in the back side of the turret with 2 piats and it still doesn't kill him

feral glade
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its a tiger

gray glade
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game balance

feral glade
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it was a beast in the war

digital kiln
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b a l a n c e

dull prism
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It's not indestructable

feral glade
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to me ballance would be one tiger per 3 shermans

dull prism
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Lol no

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xD

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The game shouldn't be realistic

feral glade
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and that tiger would be tough as nails

digital kiln
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how about

gray glade
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they need to give ppl a reason to use each tank

dull prism
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Because in that case most tanks would get one shot

digital kiln
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the enemy team just get no weapon

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b a l a n c e

gray glade
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if all tanks are similarly protected why not use the lighter one at all times?

dull prism
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Because of far shittier firepower

feral glade
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good point khorney

dull prism
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You can't just mount a Panzer 4 F2 gun on a light tank like the 38t and go ape

feral glade
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just gimme the hound

dull prism
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They should've just kept to the logical way of doing it that have 3 tank types for each country light, med and heavy

feral glade
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im good firing while on the move

dull prism
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Not counting like AA etc.

feral glade
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most tankers sit still and aim

gray glade
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personally i mostly use the panzer IV if im only facing infantry cuz i find it does better

dull prism
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Exactly

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But when any other enemy tank rolls around you get 2-3 shot

gray glade
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yeah cuz balance

feral glade
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i force them to move and they dont understand game code that movement has higher code value thab stationary and movin g the turrent has even less val;ue

gray glade
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so it works as dice intended

feral glade
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im talking the coding for the game itself

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lot of people dont understand it

gray glade
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whats that mean btw, higher code value?

feral glade
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they think they its realistic

hearty nova
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all the soldirs are war lords

dull prism
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But that's the illogical part of balance. The Panzer 4 has a better main arnament then a churchill Mk7

feral glade
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when the drvs code the game they place viability value in the way of percentage for certain actions

gray glade
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oh, ok

dull prism
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The other day I had a situation where I got a Tiger and I had a decent squad. I drove out of spawn attacking the closest enemy point. I see a enemy heavy tank there, I destroy it. I see my ammos low, so I back up to the nearest repair station and restock. I go back to that point and there's another tank there, destroy it, back up to restock, go to the point AND THERES ALREADY ANOTHER TANK THERE???

feral glade
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like for example movement has a higher value over stationary as long as your weapon isnt moving off target

dull prism
#

Literally the speed of my tank and the time it takes to restock and repair is the same time it took the enemy to get a new tank and drive to the point

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So I was continuesly engaging the same tank driver on the same point for half the match

feral glade
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so ever wonder why you put a full clip in a guy and he puts in half as much and you die?

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because your more than likely standing or crouching while aiming...and hes strafing back and forth

dull prism
#

Wait what?

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That makes no sense

feral glade
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as long as he keeps the weapon on you while he moves the game awards him a hight bullet penitration award

dull prism
#

Where did you get that data from?

feral glade
#

dont gotta make sense if you think its like real life but it isnt its a game written in code

dull prism
#

Where'd you get the data from that bullet penetration increases depending on crosshair being on target?

feral glade
#

im trying to explain game code you in text but its kinda hard at this hour

dull prism
#

Well, as long as you got the code to back that up, I don't believe it

feral glade
#

just believe me if you want the kill strafe side to side and keep your weapon onn the enemy,,,dont just stop and aim

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whatever man

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my first game was doom in 1998 back then we coded out own mods

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i learned to strafe way back then

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next time your in game keep a look out for the old scholl players and see if they dont keep moving

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lotta new players are sayin like...why are those guys moving from side to side?

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because they are taking advantage of a higher code value

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back peddling is also higher as is the person on higher ground

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you come at an enemy close up you back peddle because your too close to starfe

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believe me or not its no big deal to me

dull prism
#

I mean that would be so illogical to program

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They would have to check if the player is moving and then cast rays in order to check if the player is actually aiming at an enemy and then iterate to increase this magical penetration value you're talking about

feral glade
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so what you think coding is easy as is?

dull prism
#

That makes no sense in code what so ever to make

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No, because I'm actually doing it

feral glade
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what strafing?

dull prism
#

No

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You said that if you strafe and keep your crosshair on an enemy, you'll do more damage in simple words

feral glade
#

yes this is true

dull prism
#

Okay, so we established that

feral glade
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if hes stationary

dull prism
#

And I, as a person who is learning to program, can state that actually coding such a illogical thing would be a waste of resources

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Because as I previously mentioned, you would have to grab the players location in the world, check if it changes constantly, then cast a ray from the players viewpoint and check what it hits to determine if the player is aiming on an enemy and then if those both things are true, increase the damage in whatever way

feral glade
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thats exactly what happens

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you wouldnt increase damage it would automatically be established based on movement

dull prism
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The reason I really doubt that's true is:

  1. It makes no sense in shooting logic
  2. It doesn't make sense to program that at all, on top of that I kind of think, but I'm not an expert, that it would be resource heavy for it's task
  3. You have no actual proof to back this claim up
feral glade
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  1. its not a real shooting incident 2) its not freshly programed its already part of the kernal it would be adjusted per weapon /kit and 3) i dont need to prove anything to you
dull prism
#

Dude, your sentences make no sense

feral glade
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im not gonna spend the latter part of my night aurguing some point with you

dull prism
#

It's discussing

feral glade
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i know aht i know and thats fine with me

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so fuckin what?...hahaha

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sue me

dull prism
#

Well, I think you're spreading false information then

feral glade
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think what you want

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if i could take you in an empty server id prove it in action

dull prism
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  1. I know it's not a real shooting incident? I'm saying that from a weapon shooting perspective it's obviously not real, so why would they even make it in the game?
  2. I don't state that it's a new addition, I'm stating that it would be illogical thing to make from a programming perspective and from my knowledge it would be resource intensive compared to the task this particular code would do. And what are you on about the kernel?
  3. You can think in your mind that this magical thing happens to ease frustration I guess or think that it'll make you better, but unless you can actually get real proof of this being implomented, it's false information. The worse proof that can be gathered on this topic is doing like 40 tests in-game, but even that is highly based on rng, because weapon spread is a big thing in this matter, it can hit in different places and do different damage.
feral glade
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im not gonna bother even reading that crap

dull prism
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Well, your choice, then just don't spread false information around.

feral glade
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dont tell me what to do

dull prism
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ecks dee

feral glade
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ive been gaming for longer than youve been on the planet most likely and ive learned a hell of a lot

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and im not gonna waste my time and expertise on some cynical kid

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do your own research about code value and bullet penetration

dull prism
#

Games differ a lot in their gameplay and most certainly in their programming, experience in one fps or tps won't directly transfer to another, you're age or "gaming expertise" as you call it has nothing to do with this conversation as it is literally about 1 game and 1 games design mechanics

feral glade
#

you just keep standing still while thiose that strafe put you back to spawn

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this game utalizes at its kernal the q3 engine

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same kernal for over 20 years

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doom2/quake3

dull prism
#

If you state that there's a set mechanic in a game that you're the only one who knows about, since this is the first time I'm hearing about this magic in Battlefield, you need some solid evidence to back it up, otherwise it's just another guy saying some bullshit online. I'm not here to offend you, but discuss this, you're currently mixing in your age and feelings.

feral glade
#

im certainly not the only one that knows this

dull prism
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Can you give a bit more info about the kernel? What was the name?

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is q3 the name of the kernel?

feral glade
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hell no man im done talking to you about game code

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no the q3 kernal

dull prism
#

So you mean the quake 3 game engine?

feral glade
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the original basic frame of the game

dull prism
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Aka this one?

feral glade
#

dude yes

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there are only two basic engines tht all the others are built over unreal and q3

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frost bite is a huge addendum

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for the later bf games

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but bf42 was all q3

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just slowed about 2/3 speed

dull prism
#

So what you're claiming is that the Frostbite engine was built purely from Quake 3's engines resources?

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So it would be a modified quake engine?

feral glade
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the overlying code values have never changed much

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more than modified

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but it utalizes the original kernal that q3 enginewas constructed on

dull prism
#

What you're saying makes no sense once again.

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The kernel of a game is the game engine

feral glade
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maybe its above your head

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its deeper than the engine

dull prism
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And I can find no information what so ever about Frostbite 3 being based off anything from quake, as much info as I could find, DICE developed it themselves

feral glade
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whatever man its way to late to do any reaserch to prove a point to someone as argumentive as you

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your gonna believe what your conditioned to believe no mater what i say

dull prism
#

Welp, then do it when you have some free time to spare, currently everything you've said has absolutely no logic or has no proof of what you claim.

solid hinge
feral glade
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lookme up tomorrow and well go ingame and ill prove it to you first hand

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as well as find some information to satisfy you

dull prism
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But mate, how are you going to do the test and limit the changing variables?

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Because as I said, you can't just go in-game, move and shoot me

feral glade
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we are going to square off in a server

dull prism
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You got other stuff like weapon spread etc involved then

amber pine
feral glade
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well go on voice on oppisite teams and act this out all thing being equal

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same weapon same distance same start point..i strafe yo stay staionary

sweet bolt
#

I bought BF3 on steam and it wont even start pls help

feral glade
#

we can get someone to count down and do a two ourt of three

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bf3 has a few bugs...i had issue with it for two months until i finally licked the problem

sweet bolt
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how can i fix it

feral glade
#

try turning your user account control to its lowest setting that would effectively be off

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how about it solid?

thorn estuary
#

Anyone know how you stop the ping when you press q in bfv from disappearing when you aim near it?

feral glade
#

you want to continue this debate tomorrow with action as well as some information?

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you dont aim in bfv you move your mouse to the bottom of the rose

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its easier than bf4

thorn estuary
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Not the rose when you hold q. Just spotting with it. I use to find the range of tanks so I can select the range on my bazooka

feral glade
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double tap it

sweet bolt
#

wym "turning your user account control to its lowest setting"

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where

feral glade
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type "user account control settings" in the box next to your start button...it says:

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"type here to search"

sweet bolt
#

on steam or battlelog ?

feral glade
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no windows

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are you on PC?

sweet bolt
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yeah

feral glade
#

you know where th start button is?

raw orbit
#

Dude moving doesn't make your bullets do more damage lol

feral glade
#

it makes you shots more effective

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you think all your shots hit the target even if your firing dead on?

raw orbit
#

"It gives them higher bullet penetration" most nonsensical thong I have ever heard

feral glade
#

no they dont this isnt real life its a game...and it was built with code

raw orbit
#

That is what you said mate

feral glade
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okay ill give you an example...say your laying down with a machine gun...and your firin g at me...im running at you firing at you...i get the kill all things even

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ever notice that happening?

dull prism
#

I was gone for a bit

feral glade
#

lotta people think the guy running is cheatinf because your laying down and hes moving

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lets get together tomorrow soild

dull prism
#

I mean you state that strafing increases the damage of your bullets. In that case to fully test that we would need to limit the maximum amount of variables possible. The issue with this is that we can't limit stuff like weapon spread

feral glade
#

its 5:30 here

dull prism
#

America?

raw orbit
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No what I see is if you shoot eachother the same number of times with weapons that have the same damage model then you do the same amount of damage lmao

dull prism
#

No, I mean we can't test this theory correctly

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Because weapon spread will screw us over

feral glade
#

we can face off and fire at the same time

dull prism
#

You can just measure the TTK

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One with strafing one without

feral glade
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id be the one with the higher weapon spread

dull prism
#

Exactly, but then the results would be varying depending on where they hit

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So we can't accurately compare the damage

raw orbit
#

You could always just shoot once and see the damage lol

dull prism
#

We would need the bullets to hit the same place

feral glade
#

but id be having my weapon aimned at you the entire time...i wouldnt be "hosing" my barrel like some players

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you would be aiming at me i would be aiming at you

wary mason
#

slowly closing in 160 000 kills in Battlefield 3 👀

feral glade
#

difference being your staionary im strafing

dull prism
#

But as I just said Weasel, if we just stand off one to another and spray, I stand still, you move it would be a huge difference

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Because bullets would hit randomly

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Depending on how good my aim is and how good your aim is

feral glade
#

damn Hess how manyb hours you been playing?

dull prism
#

So the test each time would be random

wary mason
#

uhh lemme check

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1312h

raw orbit
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Install aimbots

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Not like dice would ban you

feral glade
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wel,l im not a good aim...lol

dull prism
#

kekwcd

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I'm just saying that there would be RNG variables in our tests

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Which would make the information not accurate

feral glade
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thats not a lot of hours compared to kills you must have a more than good K/D

wary mason
#

here's my all time stats

feral glade
#

so what you saying solid...you'd lose?

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2.96 is very very good my friend

wary mason
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gotta get to 3

dull prism
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I just said what I'm saying. Both of our aiming skill is RNG, weapon spread is RNG, so hitting multiple bullets in the same location in both times we test would literally be impossible, thus making the data we collect inaccurate and easily incorrect.

feral glade
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youll not dount be victorious...i havent had nearly that good a K/D since bf2

wary mason
#

i think i have the highest kd in bf1

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out of battlefield games

feral glade
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im just saying we go in game and shoot it out 2 out of 3 times

dull prism
#

Don't you see the issue with doing that?

feral glade
#

mine was best in bf 42

dull prism
#

IT WOULD BE INACCURATE INFORMATION

feral glade
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i was in the upper 1%

wary mason
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only 56k kills tho

feral glade
#

lo....man its proof in the real world solid

dull prism
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Proof?

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What proof?

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What are you on about?

raw orbit
#

I think what happens here is people just miss more when they're trying to hit a moving target 🤡

pale meteor
#

Noice

feral glade
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look Hess not a lot of players score a 3.62 K/D

solid hinge
wary mason
#

i never reached lvl 150 :(

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the level cap was at 110 before it got raised

pale meteor
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ranking up in bf1 isn't that long because of the 2xp boost and events

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and if you target the medals

feral glade
#

but a 3.62 K/D is skill based not rank based

wary mason
#

yeah LUL i have the most inflated SPM in BF1

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literally 556th best

pale meteor
#

I'm talking about the ranks, not skill

feral glade
#

yeah i know

wary mason
#

was really fast to XP up in bf1

raw orbit
#

You could always just have zen shoot you when moving/not moving and record it then watch it back and look at the damage per shot

wary mason
#

80 win% tho

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👏

pale meteor
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that good gaming chair haha 😛

feral glade
#

but the original argument was bullet value movement verse stationary...so it would have to be one of us is stationary the other strafes

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80 win%?

pale meteor
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he won 80% of matches

feral glade
#

yeah i get that

wary mason
#

i dunno why the bf1 tracker displays my favorite class as pilot

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that's not even true

feral glade
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thats rare...or maybe he was the lead player that can happen...one guy leads a team to a win...like a 1% player in game

pale meteor
#

it's based on timed played

wary mason
#

ah right

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that would make sense.

pale meteor
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that's why it's your favourite

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by the tracker

wary mason
#

shame there's 4 infrantry roles and 1 pilot and i've played everything pretty evenly

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well

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except Cavalry

pale meteor
#

piloting in bf1 in satisfying

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I spent more time in planes in bf1 than in all bf titles overall

wary mason
#

shame they got rid of speed control in BF1/BFV

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flying got a bit stale

dull prism
#

@raw orbit That would be the only way of really doing it I guess

feral glade
#

dice needs to place revive to death ratios R/D

dull prism
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And only compare the single bullet that hits to the head, because that's the bullet we can actually check where it hit

wary mason
#

everyone would have bad revive / death ratio

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unless you played medic class 24/7

feral glade
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not me..im a more than decent medic

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i confess i love the smg

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i try for at least 5 revives until i die

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i get far more most times

dull prism
#

I really like the m3 infrared, but I want the same gun with a different scope

feral glade
#

i keep moving i never camp and use smoke religiously...sometimes i even use smoke as a diversion..smoking the oppisite as im headed

pale meteor
#

Smoke 💯

feral glade
#

so solid we going in a server tomorrow?

dull prism
#

We can try I guess

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I'll use my trusty bandicam 😄

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Because I'm too lazy to get my shadowplay

feral glade
#

okay then👍

dull prism
#

When is your tomorrow?

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Because for me it's 1pm soon

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xD

wary mason
feral glade
#

ill be utalizing a suomi you use that or pick a weapon of your choice

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wtf hess???....123 you bastard....lol

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what was you overall score that round?

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its 5:30 for me and way past my bed

#

where you at india or something?

keen sorrel
#

wsh

wary mason
#

i really can't remember

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i don't think i saved that battlereport

feral glade
#

well hell i bet they called you a scripter

wary mason
#

i mean i barely have servers to play on

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in BF3

feral glade
#

your not on PC?

wary mason
#

i am

feral glade
#

i have a bunch of servers available

wary mason
#

i mean there's a lot of servers

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im just banned from them

dull prism
#

I'm from Latvia, aka the Baltics

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So, I got my GMT+3 timezone

feral glade
#

two TDM servers and several conquest

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oh okay....when do you us

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ually

dull prism
#

What timezone are you in?

wary mason
feral glade
#

like to play..ill ber up in about 8 hours + a couple for coffee

wary mason
feral glade
#

did they accuse you of hacking?

wary mason
#

a few times

dull prism
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In 9 or so hours it'll be 10pm for me

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We can try then, but I can't guarantee it

feral glade
#

hey solid...i play with a few europeans i know the hour

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oh btw i was born in germany

gray glade
#

what class @wary mason

feral glade
#

and lived in europe several times as a kid

prime pine
#

Jeez

feral glade
#

i added you...if you want to add me on origin im the same name as here

wary mason
#

engineer Kappa

gray glade
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thank god

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that it wasn't jet pilot

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i hate them

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😄

wary mason
#

there's no pilot class in bf3 Kappa

feral glade
#

we all do Khorney

wary mason
#

i flew a jet as engineer Kappa

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hence the Kappa

gray glade
#

🤢

wary mason
gray glade
#

i forgot there was no pilot class back then

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i remember landing to repair stuff

wary mason
#

just use the rubber trees to instantly stop

gray glade
#

completely realistic 😄

wary mason
#

This was TDM thought so im not a lost cause with only flying jets :)

pale meteor
#

My stats in bf1: 2.52 K/D, 2,779.04 SPM, 62 HKS, 58.1 win% - PS4

gray glade
#

do you take much abuse in the chat as a jet pilot Hess?

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i can only imagine with that ammount of kills

wet fossil
#

Why do planes keep showing up with their landing gear out now

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Like they get within the full detail LOD distance and their gear suddenly appears and retracts

wary mason
#

only like every game @gray glade

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i don't mind it

feral glade
#

its complimentary isnt it?

wary mason
#

i mean most just think that you're cheating cause you can't see what kit you're playing in BF3/BF4

feral glade
#

yeah true...too many new players accuse more skilled players of cheating

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to be honest ive only spotted first hand two since ive been playing bfv

raw orbit
#

I died dude

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He must be hacking

feral glade
#

hahah...yeah as well as the ol around the corner death due to server side net code

wary mason
feral glade
#

looks like a hack but its only the other guy has a faster upload speed

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lolz get cancer

raw orbit
#

Joining a noob server to farm kills WeirdChamp

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Reasonable ban tbh

feral glade
#

gott play somewhere

#

servers are getting thin

wary mason
#

i got 3 servers i can play in in bf3 :)

feral glade
#

so this is why i have so many srvers and yours are limited...hahaha

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i hope one is a TDM

wary mason
#

that's included in the 3 servers

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so yup

feral glade
#

well what else do you need...i play bf3 TDM to warm up for bf4

wary mason
#

i actually haven't checked rush servers

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probably have more servers to play in there

#

rush isn't just my fav mode

feral glade
#

now rush servers are verry thin i think i only have one

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i like rush,,,,for the rush

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digging breakthrough on provonce bfv

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like a genuine battle

prime pine
#

Hess

wary mason
#

shame the EA Hosted servers in BF3 never had enoug htickets

prime pine
#

Make an alt

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And play off that

wary mason
#

Conquest with 150 ticket limit

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ran out like in 7mins

feral glade
#

yeah thats way too short

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500 just right

wary mason
#

i don't wanna play on an alt :(

feral glade
#

1000 too many

pale meteor
#

150 was the max?

wary mason
#

yeah

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100% tickets was 150 tickets

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100 tickets on smaller maps

feral glade
#

100 okay 8 on 8 maybe

wary mason
#

probably

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now the 100% is concidered as 750 tickets

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which is nice

feral glade
#

750 kills me

wary mason
#

in the newer titles

feral glade
#

i like 450-500

pale meteor
#

Aerodrome has the highest maybe in bfv

feral glade
#

you get two tight teams 750 is shear hell

wary mason
#

i hope the next bf has crossplay tbh

#

👀

feral glade
#

i believe EA stated so

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and next gen consoles will have M/K native

wary mason
#

👏

pale meteor
#

I think it will because it's the future of gaming I believe

feral glade
#

yeah i might even get a console with m/k last console i owned was a ps1

wary mason
#

i haven't been paying much attention to so called "leaks" and "rumors" 👀

feral glade
#

no i read it on a EA news release,...the one where they were saying theyre waiting to release bf6 when both consoles roll out

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ithink i even have that page bookmarked

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im super keen on any news about bf6

#

see im a bf fan boy been playing bf since bf 42 demo release

#

so bf6 releases 2022 it will be exactly 20 years since bf 42

wary mason
#

i started from Bad company 2 open beta

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was pretty fun

feral glade
#

funny i missed both BC games...had life obligations at the time

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was traveling

worthy wharf
#

i started in bf1 AngryCat

feral glade
#

your still a pup yet

pale meteor
#

I started from BC2 too on ps3

worthy wharf
#

pupper granter

feral glade
#

granty knows what i was doing when i was traveling

worthy wharf
#

aye

feral glade
#

we are fellow sailboaters

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well ol boy i messed about and stayed up late agin

#

gonna take my leave and hit the rack

worthy wharf
#

tut tut tut

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sleep well friend

feral glade
#

will do and spot you tomorrow

glossy egret
#

enyone here

#

hello

pale meteor
#

hello there

young wigeon
#

hi

dull prism
#

Guys if I'm not mistaking Bf4 had the largest variety of weapons and attachments right?

obtuse glade
#

of battlefield or just in total?

raw orbit
#

yeah you have automatic weapon

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and automatic weapon but slightly slower firerate

#

maybe the widest variety of weapon names 🧠

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you also have 4x scope

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and 4x scope but its made in russia

#

i think bf1 has the most weapon variety :)

open surge
#

Yeah there's a shitton of attachments and weapons in bf4

#

but a lot of attachments are just reskins

#

like the grips

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iirc

raw orbit
#

all of them basically

#

each attachment has like 2 or 3 reskins just based on different country's versions

#

and the one you unlock depends on where the gun's made

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or you can open some lootboxes 😉

prime pine
#

Honestly

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Bf4/h had the best lootboxes

sonic rampart
#

^

gray saffron
#

i play one day of halo and come back to find that they gave away the most hideous facepaint. thanks for ruining my day, @shy badger

open surge
#

I liked the battlepack system in bf4

#

actually rewarded for playing the game and leveled up

#

feels good

#

I feel like the next bf really does need something like gunsmith

gray saffron
#

soo bf4's system?

open surge
#

yes but with more impactful changes

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you can really change how a weapon behaves in mw

gray saffron
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personally i prefer guns to stay cosmetic wise with specs changing up the specs. if i want a g36c with frontgrip etc, then i should be able to do that without fucking up with preferred stats

open surge
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perfect opportunity to one up mw

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battlefield is a game with crazy customizations and specs

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bf4 and bf5 proves that

gray saffron
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also remember kids and tano, this weekly's reward is 1000 COMPANY COINS, not boins ;D

sour stratus
uneven hollow
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Indeed that’s 1000 company coins as in 1000 CC not bions since they only do 100 bions

pulsar prism
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I need to snatch BFV on PC, I've been playing on Console for years and now that I'm fully switched to PC I'm excited to try it out.

gray saffron
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it's currently 30 on steam

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for year two edition

scarlet cape
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@pulsar prism Yeah me too

pulsar prism
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I'm going to assume I can't transfer my stats?

prime pine
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No you cannot

icy sluice
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Oh shid, free face paint today

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Probably only good on Japanese Soldiers or full face masks like Nachtigall tho

eager shore
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Looks more like a skull for a Halloween costume set.

glossy egret
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is battlefield 1 free on mac?????

eager shore
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We never did get Filthy Thirteen-style face paint, did we?

glossy egret
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is it

fossil heron
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No

mortal jackal
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@glossy egret u asking me?

icy sluice
devout crater
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Is anyone playing bf1 on ps4?

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I cant find Any full servers

icy sluice
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Make sure your filters are set properly and make sure free slots have "NONE" selected

prime pine
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I should just hop on and grab the paint

devout crater
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Cool thanks@icy sluice

prime pine
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I've been sucked into stardew valley... going back into bf5 my aim is gonna be wonky

icy sluice
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It's heckin' not and you know it

zenith dew
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hi

icy sluice
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Yeah that profile picture is gonna have to go

zenith dew
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how

devout crater
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Why

gray saffron
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oof not a good entry when a mod already tells you to change stuff xd

novel blaze
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any ome plays hardline here

brave garnet
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Who is the person in it and look at what they did in the 1940's @zenith dew

icy sluice
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We are going to stop all of this discussion right now, okay?

gray saffron
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yeah. i just realized i had the sentinel outfit and it looks dope. anyone got any good mixes with it? ;3

icy sluice
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I have not atm

mortal jackal
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So we cant have that mustache dude pfp

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What about stalin

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Is stalin okay

icy sluice
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I'd say not really.

mortal jackal
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What abooout that japan emperor forgot his name

icy sluice
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I don't know who that is either.

mortal jackal
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The one in ww2

icy sluice
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I mean, I know lol

mortal jackal
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Is he okay

gray saffron
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i hope the next game will have rice hat cosmetics 😦

icy sluice
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It depends on the era lol

brave garnet
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Just talked to the guy and he's not going to change his pfp

mortal jackal
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Right

prime pine
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How is my aim not gonna be wonky

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That is the question

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Hmm

mortal jackal
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@brave garnet why

gray saffron
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step one: don't be drunk

icy sluice
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You play Battlefield V so much

prime pine
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My aim is actually better when I drink, i aim for the head

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Kek

thorn pine
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yo anyone else got some weird facepaint in bf5?

brave garnet
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He said, What's wrong with it, its WW2 and BFV is set in WW2

prime pine
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Ill get coffee and hype my adhd brain on that

mortal jackal
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@brave garnet did u tell him about the oven

pine marlin
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Hi

gray saffron
barren thorn
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Oh

prime pine
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Who plays with their aim on invert?

gray saffron
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ew

mortal jackal
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Me

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My eyes got problems

gray saffron
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only time my up and down is inverted is when i'm flying