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personally i'm more annoyed by planes then AA
@solid hinge diving works when you have rockets, you can afford to come in low
That means no?
I know some others who are WAYYYYYA BETTER than me
@coral fiber who?
Think of me like being Pre Pro
A lot of people @wheat badge
Like who?
If I may ask... Why?
Isnt m going to be fixed?
m
MY GOD THE APC'S KEEP KILLING ME ON SPAWN
Rip
its so annoying
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/getmemedonlol/video/99415702
I mean if I can pull shit off like this im somewhat pro material right?
Y'all dissimg the 200s ever fought a 400?
im not good with planes or tanks 🤧
@prime pine the wha wha who's now?
FUCKING APC OMG. infantry gunfight hippity hopity an apc just drives up and cannons me. i just want to play a sniper
Hippity hoppity you are now roadkill
i hate the artillery spawn campers
bf hardline number 1 for me, bf 1 second bf 4 third
If i say bf5 people are gonna want to kill me
@digital kiln disgusting
I miss the old G2
hardline was terrible
@coral fiber hey
I cant go back to it
I really loved BF1, but it's hard to go back to it after playing BFV for so long
six out of ten doesn't mean it's good
Yeah BF1 is great but hardline has a place into my heart
@prime pine hey
and playing for years
Battlefield 1 is one of the best MP games I've played
I remember getting it on xbox one and it being my first game
ive yet to get a secret reload 🤧 soon
I helped some guy with his ballistic shield assignment on my first game there LOL
LOLOL
I got my bald eagle rare reload
i hated those
Speaking of Angry Joe, did anyone hear about the new sexual harassment claims?
I knew exactly what he wanted
@prime pine you got some tanks skins or nah?
i dont care anymore. i am on a crusade to murder every sing apc i see
Yeah I got tank skins
i did all of my weapon assignments and knife assignments
i have the 300 knockout its a beauty
wow
Instantly delete people
im in love with the m39 emr
i just learned something
@slate oak I did, but having met him multiple times irl, I don't believe the accusations
@prime pine can you show me your tanks skins pls?
ive always loved it
Gosh i remember play BF3 on my PS3 😢
What skin what vehicle
the australian shepard is from america
@prime pine everything 🙂
BF3 is still playable on PC and is still amazing
My xbox is off im not gonna turn it back on
im big on battle rifles in hardline lol
i got bf4 insted of 3
Was i also love about this franchise is that the community ISN'T too toxic like COD.
i get dms daily asking how i use the m39 emr with its recoil lMAO
@prime pine how can i dm you ?
the most toxic community in the world is probably arma
battle rifles took skill imo
Theyre closed for a reason
Wish we got bf remaster now due need for speed Hot pursuit getting remaster 
it's filled with a bunch of 12 year olds who think they're in the military
I always wanted to combined gold and zebra and make a golden zebra atrocity through paint bench
Idk
I remember the COD community.........................
i remember dropping my first 100 bomb with it
If we’re talking toxic
the apc's are giving me brain damage please help ;-;
In contrast to bf5 where I dropped them all the time
The most toxic players in the world are people who donate to big Minecraft servers
that moment you got 850 Boins
If ya know, ya know.
What should i do with 700 boins ? 🤔🤔🤔
only for the waffenrock to be in a 1500 boin bundle
im gonna try and get 100 stars for every gun soon tbh
I have 1730ish
Jeez
i have 100 for all battle rifles and ARS on both sides and most snipers
I got 1970 boins but im saving up for ghillie suits
Imma save for an actual combat uniform
I was saving up for the Waffenrock, wasn't expecting it to be in a Bundle
Being completely honest im glad that that bundle is there for the people wanting to buy it you know?
@prime pine you use churchull gun carrier or no?
Ah, I wanted to get 100 stars for all of my battle rifles but I couldn't really bother at the end
No i don't
I got Waffenrock 
I remember playing WoW and COD with 10 years old kid who said to me the N word
Yeah people like Mac, who I will now bully
Ah yeah
@icy sluice stinky
You mean
I don't say that?
Wtf
Sorry
I mena, for people who want to buy the bundle
That's against the rules man
Timing was really done badly
Context was mac that thered be people like you willing to buy the bundle
It was just badly timed
I have a feeling the Bandhändler might be a Bundle set as well
I just want to make a Fancy German officer Dice
When i first saw the BFV trailer i didn't understand is this was supposed to be around WWII
take my money damnit
.
which has more players on pc? BF4 or BF3?
4 i think
4 has more PC players last I checked
ahhh ok
4 across all platforms lol
Last I checked... 4 had like 12 full 64 player servers and 3 had ironically 3.
@prime pine should i use spotting scope?
Flares
The only advantages of using a spotting scope are infinite ammo and being able to spot people from longer distances.
So i should use it?
Spotting Flare easily spots people in doors
Do you remember battlefield O N L I N E?
Heroes
Heroes amazing
@icy sluice and the scope for far people?
Yeah but you can't have both
Gosh i remember the fans hated that game.

Poggers
Now I am surprised there's no meme video of "Real M1911 Hours"
"If history only remembers one in a thousands of us, then the future will be filled with stories of who we were and what we did." -Harlem Hellfighter - Battlefield 1
@prime pine lets see
The Bf1 Intro is amazing
Whats best bf game?
For Me : Bad Company 2, Battlefield 1, Battlefield 3
Only real OG remember 1 9 4 2
Bf1942 best battlefield
yes
Vietnam is also one of the greatest
Thats older than me my guy
Its as old as me, infact, BF1942 was the first game I have ever played
its still bootiful
battlefield 1942 had it all tanks aircraft submarines ships, something the battlefield v :C does not have
And the servers my DUDE
battlefield 2 
Oh wait no it isnt
Battlefield Vietnam 
No god damn lag in that games
Battlefield Vietnam
IS still
HOT
Lotta good memories
With Napalm Fire 
Eyegasm
😏
F
Bf1 works on xbox
Battlefield 6 better be a Vietnam game or I will be big sad
And bf4
Is it harder?
It would take some time to get used to as a PC gaymer
I think we are getting Battlefield 3 Remastered this year, and Battlefield VI: Vietnam next year
It would also take time to get used to keyboard
As i played console most my life
stinkt boring vietnam
I used to play Battlefield 1943 on Xbox 360 back in the day and it was super fun, but very hard.
Wasn't used to war games on xbox
imagine wanting a vietnam bf instead if a modern bf
I only played hardline bad company 2 on my old 360
imagine wanting a vietnam bf instead if a modern bf
@novel blaze what
Modern is boring af
Vietnam is cool
ok enjoy playing the dlc vuetnam thing in one of the older bf titles
Vietnam DLC was shite compared to Battlefield Vietnam (2004)
I wouldn’t know
i love Medal of Honor Allied Assault multiplayer maps, would love to play some TDM on Stalingrad map 🙂
i love Medal of Honor Allied Assault multiplayer maps, would love to play some TDM on Stalingrad map 🙂
@low quail good shout
I used to have Medal of Honor Frontlines, and Call of Duty Finest Hour
Which one?
Cod 2
Dunno
I know MOH Frontlines first Mission was literally ripped from Saving Private Ryan scene for scene
But after that it turns into an OSS Spec Ops thing
I played Cod 2 Finest Hour, Big Red One and Cod 3
I should go buy another 36p
I’ve played Finest Hour, BO1, MW3, BO3, IW, MW19
Just to play the older ones i missed out on
no
Ive played Cod the big red one, finest hour, bo1, mw1,mw2,mw3,bo2,bo3,modern warfare remastered, infinite warfare, MODERN WARFARE,
good
Well, if we want to talk all the cods in general
blackout>warzone😎 😎
Love cod
Discussion preferably about Battlefield titles 
I've played pretty much every single one except the first one, and IW.
We dont talk about those modes
Cod is trash. Warzone is good cause its free.
Cod is kinda bad nowadays
warzone should not be called a battle royale
That's implying that a shit covered razor given to you by a homeless man for free is good because it was free
Something isn't good just because it's for free.
still shit
im about to buy bf5
i normally played it on ps4/xb1
would you guys suggest it on pc or no?

I’ve not had WiFi for a while.
My Modern Warfare is still on Season 2
warzone should not be called a battle royale
@novel blaze what
ok i wont get it
this battle royale mode is not battle royale
Battle royale is lame
It will be dead by 2021
Warzone wasnt shit though it was a good free videogame.
[Every -one like that]
Warzone is just the Battle Royale mode of Modern Warfare
Ngl imagine if Firestorm was actually updated
If only Firestorm had been free.
Would still suck 
It had some potential
WW2 Battle Royale.
It did
Virgin: Forkknife
Pleb: PUBG
Chad: Minecraft Hunger Games
Thad: 2020 🌍
But executed terribly
The lack of updates and the fact it wasn't stand alone secured its grave
Agreed
I remember when people were convinced Firestorm would save BFV
If it was stand alone and free with it receiving more than enough players Dice/Criterion might've kept it up to date

Not only that, freemium whales usually buy lots of mtx
i love blackout
cant wait for "trans rights" on bf6
Yeah
i hope most if the cosmetics are just mask
ski mask oxygen mask medic mask ninja recon

downvote'd
please upvote i need karma so i can impress my wfie and she leaves her bf
me too, buddy
🦀
Ok bye guys 
I just realised ahaego or how ever you spell it would be an inappropriate pfp but it never gets seen as an inappropriate pfp
Same can be said about Hentai but I'm sure that would be seen as inappropriate
it’s not directly explicit i guess
Ahegao isnt inappropriate its just women with happy faces
it's a facial expression of pure satisfaction, nothing too inappropiate 😮
Most of the time it has cum on their faces and I'm sure if you posted a woman with cum on her face in sure mods would smack you up
Thats sweat trust me ive seen the full picture
The white stuff is not on the face
i haven't heard of them with ze sticky stuff yeah
"June 6th, 2028 were approaching the beach's of california, its said were fighting the Empire of LGBTQ, they've been terrorizing the north and south American continents for 4 years, mama, i might not make it home." - The American Resistance
Boom! First mission for bf6

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Battlefield 5

What's up everyone
My ceiling is pretty high up so I'd say that's up
The trucks roof
The sky is up
why would you not just use 
yes and the floor is down
Yep
it’s literally on this server
woah my ape brain was funky for a moment
What is?
ANGERY
why is everyone complaining about the armoury
What game?
Ah
Cheese

New American set looks great


POGGERS

@tawdry ore NO
yes
Funny faced guy is funny 
Would this be considered a bruh moment?

No funny grave men


Is this my hentai server?
NEIN
No
Oh wait ye is battlefield


i always come in at the weirdest moments
Do you mind not spamming
this isnt very wholesome keanu reeves of u
i like how ninja and shroud got 10-30 million dollars from mixer than mixer shuts down
biggest finesse of the decade tbh
now they prob gonna get more than that
Who Play bf4
Me
Alot of people
Cool
hardline what?
Flatline
cheeky little 100 kill streak
you know what would be great
Ah
if the test range was easialy accessable
like, you dont even need internet at all to use it
i was hoping to do some pilot training
i can fly pretty well
transport choppers arent hard, but the landing is rough, and im rusty with jets
but i want to get better at all of them
Why tf do people just ignore tanks sitting absolutely still going 60-0
So many masochists play this game
The 60-0 guy is being ignored
yeah i will be honest i didn’t really get challenged for most of that match
there was a tiger in the first sector who landed like one good hit and then died, and a field gun that did 53 damage in one shot which terrified me and i missed my first shot, but his next shot only did 30 and i killed him
but aside from that the infantry either ignored me or tried to attack me but were terrible
Oh lord the amount of US generals on a battlefield is gonna be funny lol
i’ve only seen like 2 so far playing only us vs ger maps
Sucks only one new customization tho for this week
yeah
Indeed
i think they’re trickling the 7.0 cosmetics over a few weeks rather than dumping them all in like 2 weeks
let people grind for CC and stretch out hype
what?
wow
wut
i mean i think
idk what canadian uniform really looked like
british but with a slightly different helmet
yeah just looked it up
Poggers dude
I mean the Aussie could be made right
Since we have those shorts
And hat
Sandstorm would be noice if it shared between the brits and ameri
Bruh people still playing Battlefield 5?
Yes?
Boi why?
Its a decent game
O dont liked
its decent yeah
i bought it
i dont play it anymore because it didnt stick to me like bf hardline and bf 1 though
but its decent
Bf3 bf4and bf1 is good
Its not the best battlefield but it is still an enjoyable game
I wanted a clichê ww2 battles but
The good news ia the bf6 gonna pass in the """"present"""""
opinions on stg 1-5?
it's pretty good gun
don't really think the gun itself is powerful than others, but it doesn't have any unintuitive quirks like some guns. just your ordinary quick firing 30+1 mag rifle. and the ideal range is pretty intuitive
@dapper kernel reeeeeee
how do i get the battlefield 3 welcome pack?
bf 1 is full of cheaters unplayable
they need to start ban bf 1 got revived and now hacker every game..
NITED STATES OF AM
im gonna be honest, i preferre having the americans vs germany than the british
american side is more cool
Same
I did not have a good game in that match
naisu
lol yeh
That was a 50min game
has anyone else found that provence on the attack is really good for some high kill games?
i guess it’s because it tends to be quite a slow push
but i’ve been having some insane personal matches while attacking on the current playlist
Whats the streak?
my best until today was just over 30
I get too aggressive with tanks
thats easy 😎
Damn with the glass cannon?
my killstreak is x100 times better😎 😎
Is it like 7?
no
i would say i push a 20 streak semi-regularly
but honestly that’s generally just luck
by semi regular i mean maybe once every two weeks lol
anyone still play bad company 2?
not many i would think
👀
some redditor told me to show my k/d killstreak and total kills
i said they depend on activity not skill and i got downvoted to desth
thats reddit for you
i am so sad i jist want karma so i can prove that i knos better😵 😭 😭
tbh none of them really represents much by themselves
you want a skill-gauge stat? you look at kpm, spm, and maybe KD along with those
having a ‘good’ kd means nothing if the solid 4.5 KD is 9 kills and 2 deaths sitting in spawn sniping the whole match and getting 150 spm
scout helicopter sweats or attacj helicopter sweats what are more annoying
kd gets flaunted but it’s an easy stat to pad and is misleading
total kills too
like, someone who has 100k kills could only get like 5 kills a round and just have 20k hours on the game
you see high kd you think ‘woah they must get a lot of kills’ but generally it’s actually ‘woah they play super cowardly and don’t die often’
yep
yeah total kills is literally just a gameplay representation of time played really
you want a rate, not an amount
sweats love to camp and play cowardly to preserve the almighty kd
its nice seeing my rates go up
if you look at my total kills, i’m in the top 2%
it hasnt in a while cause i havent played in a bit
but i’m also top 2% for deaths 
my internet is so trash i cant even connect online
It would probably help to turn your playstation off for once as leaving it on for long periods of slows it down
when my internet was decent i manage to increase kd by a point a day
noted
Surprised your ps4 isn't dead
rest mode
wifi card in ps4 is massive shit tho
my consol e got brickec admfter a software update
combined with the fact my internet drops nonstop all day
Oof
its funny when it goes out, then i hear my mom and sis who are on online school zoom calls go like wtf
i get 30ms on the nearest server 110ms on eu wired 130ms wireless
I lag less than ghost in NA

after i got booted, i checked my speeds
got 2mbps download speed
less than 1 upload
You should try moving to a better Internet provider or something
i bitch bout it all the time but everyone loves comcast internet so much
Try buying one of those long ethernet wires
whats ur ping in eu and da nearest server@solid hinge
family complains bout wifi going out during their zoom classes
mfw family says comcast internet is most reliable


@novel blaze im in na, my ping is usually 80-90
if ur fm complains too u should convince them
sometimes better, sometimes worse
1-120ms is playable tjough
its not stable tho
it spikes all the time
I end up with 110-130 in NA
Wireless
I havnt tried wired in NA yet
i woukd try to convince them if i were u
i try
Just smack em up
they dont get tech stuff, i tried explaining that we not getting the speeds we are paying for
How much?
and how inconsistent this service is
100mbps
how much do u guys pay@solid hinge
ultimately, my mom just likes the cheap price xfinity offers
so she wanna stick with it
our internet is part of the cable service
Started playing bf1 today and man its way better then I remember. And really good population rn
do you play near your wifi router how nany walls are there between ur console and the router is it wired?
my house is shaped like an U, the router is on left point of the u and im on the right
ethernet cable would have to be super long
if its good on the left side then you should probably get anotjer router or an extender
Get a long ethernet cable and stick it to the corners so that people don't trip on the wires
There are these mini hooks you could probably buy to keep the wires close to the wall
thats a lot of effort im not desperate enough for yet
im gonna stick to trying to convince them to want to get a diff service
I'm glad my mom listens to me when it comes to shit like that
my family is very "cheap = very good"
and stubborn
next gen are going to be so lucky most of their oarents are going to be gamers
im not gonna let my kids spend so much time on the internet
You cancer
i dont want any epic redditor memer kids
You'd rather have goths

thats almost as bad

then goths dont exist in tennessee

How modern kids work
Change my mind
my little sister watches tiktoks all day, i suggested her not getting a phone but parents are lazy nowadays
letting the internet raise ur kids so u dont have to is the new parenting meta
u want them to be like rayz
Better than becoming homeless drug addict
nah honestly ill ket my children browse whatever they want because i believe that theh will gropw uo and eventually leave their fnaf phase like i did
i watched fnaf animations and rooted for bonmie x toy chica
I found out what hazbin hotel was an hour ago
its shit
I seen a meme of it
And realised all the pictures and inappropriate pictures I've seen from friends are from hazbin hotel
I knew it was a thing but never bothered to search it
Ita basically some weird furry shit from what I seen
Spider people and stuff
here me out
furry battlefield
OK so no
that could work out
If DICE fail BF6 then criterion take over
Japanese people take offence
nothing wrong with being a weeb, its just when they become degenerates is when the issues start
Most weebs learn japanese from anime
on god my kids never getting twitter
when u watch the english dubs


Daamn
My kid's get PH premium
my kids get to watch the paint dry and thats it
My kid's get to watch the cartoons I watched
Count duckula

I think they would hate jt
It
It's kinda old
theres only one bf4 rush server
sad
The kung flu one?
no sadly
Kung flu server is the best rush server
i was in a 5 man queue but i just instantly got in
Ph reminds be of phantom forces.
Good times.
priority status aye
PH is definitely phantom forces
👀
because the last time i played i found 10 rush servers and 5 more with less than 20 people
last played in april
ps5/xbox sez veing BC is good for BF4
happens here too
Sometimes a well server don't appear cause not enough people joined at the start
i hate that
It's annoying to wait for 63 other people to join
people nowadays rely on instant gratification too much
i just want firestorm and caspian border rush
wish people would just man up and join a server that isnt mostly full
that would keep more servers around
Do you want to try and start a chain link sever later to get you that MPX
yea
Yall talking bout dead bf games?
cough HArdline cough
R. I. P. Hardline
i got the mpx in 2019 or 2020 😎
Getting the mpx is cancer
Took me a week
HArdline has 3 full servers tbh
hardline is bf: flatline
Hardline is probably the most under rated battlefield
Altough all hardline servers are run by celts which have abuse badmins which insta ban for nothin
so thats the big issue imho
no ewww hardline i hate it because ny favorite youtuber hates it too😡 😠 🤬
Tbh HArdline is alright
Sounds like bfv
I love that the guns in hardline are actually accurate on range
unlike bf3 and bf4
hardline gun gameplay is the best
were your gun is basiclly a shotgun
I never understand why people like bf3 and bf4
the guns there loose all accuracy after 20 meters
just burst
Here
dont spray
@solid hinge
got over 200 kills with the acwr long range combat
help help!
yeah hardline gun gameplay wss the best
wonder why it didnt get players if it was so good
game has no good maps
must be the wind playing tricks again
Cops and robbers
that too
The fact it was over the top cops vs robbers put alot of peoplee off
the campaign is absolute cringe
People who play Battlefield want a military experience but I'm sure they would ha e enjoyed hardline if they gave it a chance
My uncle is a police officer and played it and he was on the edge of killing himself of that cringe
That's the point
not to mention the hate in the media peopoe who were like should i buy HL got spammed by redditors
well the cops in the campaign break every single rule of conduct
and are huge assholes
Yeah
It was supposed to be that wag
Way
Hardline campaign wasn't serious
its just a gayem
so hardline gameplay is so good its bad
Hardline went for that comedy sitcom I think you would call it
no, people was just mad they couldnt milsim
I just hated how the asian officer has a skintight vest ( doesnt exist irl ) and you have a 50 bucks amazon airsoft plate carrier
and why arent we in uniform too
We drivin around in a regular cop car
but no uniforms
also the "stealth" was a joke
Yeah hardline campaign was a comedy rather than a serious campaign
They did it nicely
yep
didnt play the campaign
Multiplayer doesnt have many maps too does it?
The maps were good
A few were cancer
I think hardline was too generic
i wish i played it
Well u can still get it
ultimate edition for 10 bucks key
but dont shoot admins
theyll insta ban you and all servers are owned by a single guy
happend to me and now I cant play multiplayer
I don't think decent NA servers are on hardline
Wanted to play it, never got to.
They're all german
Oh well.
is hardline free on gameoass
but seriously the admins there are the biggest assholes Ive seen in my entire life
literally the typical "internet power bullies 101"
Germans are perfectionists, for the record.
Im german, we aint
If you arrive 30 seconds late to an interview,
I would probably get hardline but I don't feel I would be able to get a decent amount of time on it
honestly ive been playing BF since 3 ( 2012 ) i have little to non admin stories
Speaking?
for 2 words
Oh
INSTANT PERMA
i was a scout helicopter sweat in 3 and 4. only bad experience was on noshahr canals. got killed so admin could fly the little bird
German servers
Tbh I love that Bf1 and BfV have no private servers
WAY BETTER
EU servers use the German flag don't mean it's german
ah k
Also, many people saying BfV is dead, I always get a full match immediatly tbh
It's just reddit talk
its the most active bf
Imho bfvs has the fairest gameplay of every bf
i prefer V over 1
same
You can easily gun down multiple people but I never feel like I didnt have decent chance at shooting back
1's gunplay seems strange after playing V
bfv gameplay is amazing
i just love how redditirs conplain about planes everygame
yeah and bfv its really nice
Reddit complain about anything
its hard to enjoy bf4 after playing bfv so long
I could understand complaining about jets,
even the best plane tryhard can be shot down with an aa
But 1 and V Planes were smooth
only issue in both is skybox
bombers can go to top
bomb shit
and not get hit by aa
huge issue in bf1
I feel like bf4 jets took more skill than bf1 and bfv planes
yeah
They did
yeah they do
but if mastered impossible to kill
Majority of times I died in one was due to hitting something
If something requires more skill, then specific people will get too good at it
then its unfair for many others
I like bfv because even huge pros arent completely unbeatbale
V's planes rely heavily on specs
unbeatable
i was a plane and a scout helicopter sweat 😎 but i got better in helicopters and a little bad in planes
Bf4 I can actually do some great stuff to escape another jet shooting at my ass but bf1 and bfv it's pretty much game over
in bf4 you cannot kill a plane pro
Just jet ram them
nah
team work
just make them tail you to your base look back and oress the spot button
I always played with randoms
Tbh I never play videogames with others, tbh I only meet other people to get drunk
ive nevee played BF with friends
I did one time
It's cancer
I cant concentrate with others playing
It's just bitching and whining because they can't find an enemy but get shot from no where
battlefield is too hectic
yup
imagine having another helicopter sweat as a friend in noshahr canals😎
It's hard trying to get CoD players to play BF
Indeed
gta v is the best game to play if you have friends
They're very stubborn, from what I've seen
Like if they want a real war there yea go BF
warzone conquest is really bad, Ive had many friends play that and then enjoy bf4
Bf is nothing like real war
I remember my friend thinking the 3 building on zavod being the whole map size

yeah
Of course there aren’t
and doing nothing
It’s just a saying
there are people that dont knos whats BF anf praise CoD as the best war game
and also fucking around with your friends
Friends Playing with a gun and you hear a gun shot 10 mins later

Arma is the closest regarding the large scale of it and it being mostly walking and driving the entire time
yeah
No joke they do really dumb shit
True but on consoles tho
Ive seen someone try to use a mortar as an rocket launcher
Consoles can’t even play those
prople complain about bf not being realistic.
Consoles need a good game for something like that
We have PlanetSide 2, but that it
planetside is overrated and full of sweatlords
.
Planetside is only good when you spend an hour walking to the closest big battle
I've been waiting for Insurgency Sandstorm for a while



bruh moment



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