battlefield-legacy-titles

[midnight needle]

BF 3 remaster is coming in 2020

BF 6 is 2021

[deep forge]

did they announce it

[solid hinge]

What is the best version of Metro?

Bfv

[gray glade]

deffo bfv ye

[solid hinge]

You actually stand a chance at capping other objectives in bfv

[gray saffron]

bfv

[solid hinge]

Bf3 and bf4 Was just luck

[midnight needle]

@deep forge

[deep forge]

yuh

[feral glade]

It’s suggested EA will start teasing the Battlefield 3 remaster at its delayed EA Play Live showcase on June 18, which promises to deliver “world premieres, news and more”.

thats like two days from now

[solid hinge]

A new free to play Battlefield

[feral glade]

yeah bf6 will be ftp

im will to bet anyone onn that

im mean a real bet for real money

[solid hinge]

F2P with free Live service

[feral glade]

yep

[solid hinge]

I doubt they would be able to make there money back tho

[feral glade]

with micro trans and huge servers

that only EA can offord to host

oh yeah they will

[midnight needle]

Wait what?

Free?

[delicate herald]

I highly doubt it. BFV would’ve actually hugely benefited from being FTP with firestorm and all that and it was not.

[midnight needle]

How?

What?

[solid hinge]

Maybe bf6 is pay to play but the BR is F2P

[feral glade]

3. According to the most recent video games sales statistics from ESA, almost 50% of gamers have made a microtransaction in the past year.

[delicate herald]

Possibly. Which is what they should’ve done with bfV

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[feral glade]

8. More than 85% of total video industry revenue comes from free-to-play games.

[solid hinge]

Criterion suffered the most with bfv

[shut maple]

What y'all talking about?

[feral glade]

https://fortunly.com/statistics/video-game-industry-statistics/

[solid hinge]

If only firestorm was F2P

[delicate herald]

Oh I don’t doubt that plenty of people use micro transactions, he’ll even I do, but that is not grounds to make a game FTP.

[fossil heron]

M3 is pretty funny to use

[delicate herald]

Imo

[solid hinge]

Which one

[fossil heron]

Carbine

[feral glade]

check statistic 3 and 8

[solid hinge]

There is like 4 different M3 in bfv

The car

[fossil heron]

I know lol

[solid hinge]

Smg

[fossil heron]

M3 carbine sir

[solid hinge]

Is that the sniper one

[fossil heron]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

That's completely useless

[fossil heron]

Its not

[solid hinge]

The scope is shit

[fossil heron]

Its just an underperformer

The scope is annoying

[solid hinge]

The scope makes It harder to see when everything is grey

[feral glade]

its been proven by the koreans back in 2006 that they can generate more revenue ftp than an actual one time sales of a game

[fossil heron]

Really wish there was a specialization to take the scope off

[feral glade]

joint arms was their test shooter

[solid hinge]

Then it just be the m1a1 carbine if you remove the scope

[fossil heron]

No

[deep forge]

there’s only 2 operations servers on Xbox

[fossil heron]

It would be silenced

[midnight needle]

The M3 infrared is kinda cool to use

[fossil heron]

Its funny thats all

Not super effective

[dense bone]

infared is annoying to use

[solid hinge]

The scope is disgusting

Worst part of bfv

[fossil heron]

But when they panic and have no idea where they're getting shot from is hilarious

[midnight needle]

Worst part of bfv
@solid hinge No no honey, you’re confused, the worst part of BF V is the piece of shit teammates...

[hoary badge]

That’s the worst part of any battlefield Lol

[gray saffron]

true the community can be real shit for bfv ;D

[fossil heron]

Yeah toxic as hell

[gray saffron]

creamy especially >:D (just kidding)

[fossil heron]

Gaming communities across the board are toxic

Im toxic af to teammates

[midnight needle]

I said “teammates” not “community”

[fervent raft]

boys as we know EA games are back on steam what battlefield should I buy? I'm thinking of picking up 4

[midnight needle]

1 and 5

[gray saffron]

let's all air our evilness: i teabag teammates and steal their guns when i pick them up 😦

[hoary badge]

4 is probably my favorite, so I’m a lil biased, but I definitely recommend it

[midnight needle]

When I get pissed as a medic due to teammates I just ignore them when they go down. 😋

[fervent raft]

yea 4 is my fav i'm just worried that the playerbase is small since it's an old game

[soft storm]

I just bought 1900 dollars worth of pc parts to get that epic +10 more frames in BFV

[hoary badge]

Not as small as people would think

Few rather full large conquest servers out there

At all hours

[gray saffron]

4 and 5 are best bets imo. 4 for modern warfare itch and v for best gameplay and prettiness

[deep forge]

how are ppl calling bfv dead when I can’t even find a server on bf1

[gray saffron]

cause they don't mean playercount. they mean that it won't get any new content. like maps or guns etc

[fervent raft]

BF5 is free dlc right no more season pass bullshit?

[gray saffron]

yeah

everything is included

[fervent raft]

shit decisions decisions

BF4 or BF5

[hoary badge]

I’m surprised they managed to pull as many DLC guns as they did in BF1

[gray saffron]

allt he new guns and vehicles can be unlocked with in-game currency that you earn through leveling up etc. all the maps are already in the main playlists etc

[fervent raft]

but I here BF5 is bad

[gray saffron]

bfv is great 😦

[fervent raft]

also all the steam reviews say there's hackers in every server

[midnight needle]

You hear it from biased dickheads who like modern settings

[young ledge]

Bf1 is better

[deep forge]

sike

[hoary badge]

Well that’s steam reviews for you

[fervent raft]

aii boys final decision decide my fate BF4 or BF5

[hoary badge]

Bf4

[gray saffron]

false. i can count the amount of hackers on my hand that i experienced. and otherwise just serverhop and enjoy your evening ;D you might run into issues in asia..but almost every game that has asia servers have that issue imo

[dense bone]

@fervent raft im na west, ive honestly only been suspicious of maybe 5 people of hacking out of 200 hours of gametime, i get called a hacker almost every game though... personal opinion, most people suck and blame hackers instead of their lack of skill

[hoary badge]

BFV will last awhile, jump at the slowly dying one while you can

[gray saffron]

gib us final question :3

[fervent raft]

fuck man why the copy on humble has to be origin

😦

[dense bone]

steam copy will launch through origin afaik

[gray saffron]

steam only sells year two edition, that's why 😦

[soft storm]

The year 2 edition isn’t bad

[gray saffron]

while other websites also sell the standard edition

[soft storm]

It’s the decision between cosmetics or no cosmetics

[gray saffron]

but its pricier

[fervent raft]

well I personally don;t care for cosmetics

[soft storm]

It’s Star Wars battlefront 2 normal or celebration edition basically

[dense bone]

@soft storm base is 15 bucks on humble right now, whats year 2 on steam?

[fervent raft]

15 dollers extra for that tf

[soft storm]

Like 30

[dense bone]

yea fuck that

[fervent raft]

it's 25 on steam

[soft storm]

It’s 10 bucks extra for some American and Japanese cosmetics

[gray saffron]

not even. you get cosmetics for up to the end of chapter 4. so german and british outfits and some vehicle adn weapon skins. and all the guns up to the end of chapter 4

[hoary badge]

Anyone remember the original battlefield games?

[fervent raft]

yea fuck BF5 i'm getting BF4

[hoary badge]

attaboi

[gray saffron]

buy both. bf4 for 10 and bfv for 15, boom! 😄

[hoary badge]

If you were on xbox I’d offer to play with you

[fervent raft]

??

where

[gray saffron]

bf4 is currently 12 on humble for base game (premium stuff is pretty much dead anyway) and bfv is 15 there ;3

[fervent raft]

yea but they origin tho

I want steam versions

[hoary badge]

The guns dont hurt to get in BF4 tho.

[glass canyon]

But bf3 tho

[solid hinge]

It hurts trying to get mpx

[gray saffron]

Ah okay, yeah then you'd prolly have to wait. or go bf4 cause cheapah

if youw ant them now

[hoary badge]

I would be a little surprised if BF3 is still kicking

What made me sad was buying 2142 and finding it dead

[deep forge]

bf1 is not that good bfv has the gameplay

[gray saffron]

there were some attempts to revive 2142 through f2p third aprty stuff, but that got cease and desisted 😦

[hoary badge]

Sadly

I know you can still do Lan stuff with it and 1942 and vietnam but that’s not even worth it tbh.

[hasty island]

hey

[gray saffron]

hello 4

[hasty island]

anyone that wants to listen to my battlefield 1942 OST cover?

I made it in fl studio

[gray saffron]

post it on r/battlefield i'd say

[hoary badge]

On another note, I found BF1 a little better than BFV, but it seems I just miss the full customization and the lack of a point reward system

[idle breach]

@hoary badge mate u a furry too?

uwu

[glass canyon]

I rather enjoyed bf1. Wasn't a big fan of bf4 though

[hoary badge]

Hello there

[idle breach]

ew.

[hasty island]

I dont have reddit tho

rip

[gray saffron]

just make an account

easy peasy, don't even need email

unless they changed that 🤔

[feral glade]

@hoary badge yeah man i was one of the first in server for bf1942 demo launch

[idle breach]

need email i think

[feral glade]

you play bf back then too?

[hoary badge]

@feral glade I joined a bit late seeing as I was like 8-10 years old, but I still got to enjoy the tail end of it’s life. I’ll admit, most fun I’d ever had

[glass canyon]

Any of you lucky enough to get a free bf4 steam code on twitter? Stuff ran out fast

[feral glade]

so true the bf42 demo month was like a rock festival

[teal compass]

ok so

I got the highest KDR of both teams, killed most enemies, tanks etc.

[feral glade]

roger wilco voice program caame out then aswell so we were able to actually voice for the first time

[teal compass]

enemy team gets best sqias

squad*

wh-

[midnight needle]

It simple

[hoary badge]

So I hear, I wish it and vietnam would get revived. I played those games until my computer up and died

[midnight needle]

You got a A+ and your squad mates got C’s while their squad all got B’s or A’s. It’s about averages. @teal compass

It’s overall average

So YOU may have done well but your squad didn’t while THEIR squad overall did well

[hoary badge]

10 years later here I am still playing BF4 because it’s the only one I still enjoy

[teal compass]

bruh

[idle breach]

yeah. simple math. 8000 + 8000 + 8000 + 8000 squad gets best squad even someone going 20000 + 3000 + 5000 + someone left halfway

[feral glade]

you never tried bfv alpha?

[idle breach]

oh shit i'm terrible at math

anyawy

[feral glade]

i admit bf4 is the crown of creation but bfv is fun

its the crosshairs and run and gun about bfv that reminds me of bf42

[hoary badge]

I did in the first 4 months, gamesharing through a friend. It was... different. It didn’t quite feel like the battlefield I loved. It’s still a great game, just not my jam

[ashen nexus]

Now I know why no one has VERY good dog tags expect 150 rank pros. BECAUSE 8/10 TIMES WHEN YOU ARE STANDING IN AN OBJECTIVE WITH YOUR TEAM A NOOB ENEMY IS GOING TO BAYONET GHARGE YOU BEFORE HE DIES AND GET YOUR PRECIOUS DOG TAGS.

[hoary badge]

BF1 pushed the limits a bit as well

[feral glade]

i can dig it ...i felt that way about bfhardline

[hoary badge]

Hardline was just weird lmao

[feral glade]

yeah so very true

[muted socket]

doesnt hardline have the goofy reload animations

[hoary badge]

I only played it online when I wanted pistol triggerspam to feel right

[dense bone]

bf1 is too "random casual" for my liking

[feral glade]

it made me boycott bf1 in fact i was that mad

[icy sluice]

Is that directed at me? @ashen nexus

[hoary badge]

BF4 had a couple goofy reloads

[icy sluice]

Also caps

[hoary badge]

Tho extremely rare

[hoary condor]

Bf1 join any operation - same 3 maps over and over

[ashen nexus]

Is that directed at me? @ashen nexus
@icy sluice no why?

[muted socket]

i have a hard time finding bf1 games on pc. most servers are full

[feral glade]

i wish i bought bf1 at launch

[hoary condor]

Bf1 makes me want to install bf5 again

[hoary badge]

@feral glade it makes me happy to know theres another out there who thinks of BF4 the same way I do

[icy sluice]

I bayonet charge, and usually get more than 15 dog tags a match

[muted socket]

i took a hiatus from bf and remember seeing the ea play thingy for bf1 and thought it looked really good

[hoary condor]

Bf is gone

[ashen nexus]

I bayonet charge, and usually get more than 15 dog tags a match
@icy sluice tElL mE hOw nOw

[hoary condor]

1 more try for any other map

[hoary badge]

BF1 Beta was funky, to say the least, so many amusing bug moments

[icy sluice]

It takes map knowledge like flanking routes and such

[ashen nexus]

Oh yes

[feral glade]

ill play some bf4 with you sometime

[hoary badge]

I had more fun watching bodies go flying than I did playing the objective

[feral glade]

lol

[hoary badge]

@feral glade I’m only on xbox sadly

[feral glade]

bummer man

[icy sluice]

Only way a bayonet is effective is the element of surprise

[hoary badge]

I can’t afford a decent PC atm. Too many bills

[edgy tangle]

am play bf1 who is want play bf1 good game 🙂

[feral glade]

not an object to friendship though

[icy sluice]

That is unless the victim is shit

[hoary badge]

Nah

[icy sluice]

!!lfg @edgy tangle

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[feral glade]

well all be playing bf6 crossplatform hopefully

[hoary badge]

A lot of my friends play PC, I have an old laptop I occasionally play a few games on, they tend to join me

[muted socket]

is crossplay becoming standard for multiplayer games

[hoary badge]

I hope so

[feral glade]

i might even get an xbox for bf6 with gamepad and mouse

i havent had a console since ps1 though...hahaha

[hoary badge]

I’ve always really had console, starting with the NES when I was like 3

[feral glade]

i love k/m

hate the controlers

[autumn turtle]

Is level 500 max? I’m playing against a level 500 😳

[hoary badge]

Doesn’t matter, blast him

[feral glade]

but with the new game pads they come with native mouse...so consoles are a viable alternative for k/m users now

[muted socket]

500 is max iirc

[hoary badge]

I play ESO and a few of the xbox players actually have K ready when they wanna type in chat, it’s kinda funny sometimes

[prime cairn]

[feral glade]

yeah i bet it is

[hoary badge]

It’s just “can I get a sen- “ “Use your ULT!”

[fervent raft]

yea I think ima just take a bullet and get the origin version

[feral glade]

lol

[prime cairn]

I’m gonna miss bf V

[fervent raft]

really not worth paying an extra $15 just to get i on steam

[hoary badge]

Hence why voice chat is beloved

[fervent raft]

lol

[feral glade]

can you believe when i first played PC back in quake 3 days i used a flight stick for movement?

[hoary badge]

Sounds believable for quake 3

I played quake 1, 2 and 4

[feral glade]

yeah it worked quite well

q3 is extremely fast

[hoary badge]

Let us not forget the funkyness of Quake wars

[gray saffron]

using a mouse wasn't really common back in fps days. it was wasd and arrow keys baby ;D

[feral glade]

oh yeah that was a wierd game

[gray saffron]

or well, mostly arrowkeys

[hoary badge]

Quake wars had potential, but the controls ruined it

[gray saffron]

enemy territory quake wars? 😮 that game was amazing. i'd say the lack of support was what killed it though...plus lack of playerbase

[feral glade]

@gray saffron yeah i got a copy of doom and had to use arrow keys was strange

[hoary badge]

I just bought the BFG edition of doom 3, got the first two with it

[feral glade]

the original doom that is

[gray saffron]

original doom 3 is better though

[hoary badge]

@gray saffron no the original quake wars

[gray saffron]

they messed with the pacing (more ammo drops at start etc) and removed the flashlight 😦

[feral glade]

yeah i only played the demo of quake wars

[hoary badge]

It was funky

[feral glade]

kinda a let down for me

was fun though

[fervent raft]

BRO

[hoary badge]

The air transports reminded me of the goofyness of the BF vietnam helis

[feral glade]

i just had huge expectaaions of it

[fervent raft]

origin access is 99 cents

ima just use that to play BF5 and if I like it then buy it

[feral glade]

wtf 99cents?

[fervent raft]

simple big brain move

YEAA

[feral glade]

for how long?

[hoary badge]

Watch it be for one month only

[fervent raft]

yea it;s one month only

[feral glade]

indeed ...just to suck you in

[fervent raft]

but I can use it to try BF5

[feral glade]

aha

[hoary badge]

Same way Game pass ultimate got me

[feral glade]

month aint bad though

[fervent raft]

if I like BF5 then I just buy it for cheap

also

[hoary badge]

I’m still paying for GP U

[feral glade]

wha?

[fervent raft]

its'd only $30 a year

[hoary badge]

The $16 a month is killing me

[fervent raft]

WTF

[feral glade]

not bad indeed

[fervent raft]

I should just buy a year then lol if i like it

[feral glade]

no lie man thats not a bad deal

problem is i own all the games that i would play on it

[hoary badge]

One dollar in the US might as well be a penny

[feral glade]

heh

[hoary badge]

Economy bad lmao

[fervent raft]

shit good thing I have an 8TB hard driver ima about to fill this bitch up

[feral glade]

hahaha...you go dude!

[hoary badge]

External hard drives are your best friend on consoles

[feral glade]

bring back the cruzaros

[hoary badge]

Internal needed

The best game for overall is bf4

[feral glade]

yeah bf4 is the crown of bf games so far

[fervent raft]

NEED FOR SPEED HEAT IS ON ACCESS??

WHAT

[hoary badge]

@feral glade and they better make another like it

[gray saffron]

yes

oh btw, origin is currently 1 dollah for ea basic ;D

[feral glade]

they will my brother they certainly will

[fervent raft]

basic is good origin access primier is a scam

[feral glade]

bf6 has been in the works for years now

[gray saffron]

access premier is only useful if you're interested in playing new releases

[hoary badge]

Like, I feel like when bf4 dies I’ll have to resort to the mildly terrifying MW

[feral glade]

not any more joao

[gray saffron]

so you could opt getting it when bf6 comes out or something to try it out for a month ;D

[feral glade]

but i believe bf6 will be free to play

not pay to win though

we will see

[hoary badge]

That makes me fear the bar wont be too high

[feral glade]

no EA will do it up right

[main birch]

I think if they make a free Battlefield, it will be p2w

[hoary badge]

Most likely

[uneven hollow]

Weasel my dude

[feral glade]

not in free to play all you need to buy is specialized kits and tanks planes and shit...but the basic player and weapon would be free

[uneven hollow]

First person kamikaze is kinda difficult than I thought

[hoary badge]

@uneven hollow You got this boi

[uneven hollow]

But it is very noice

Wanna see my kamikaze playlist @hoary badge

[hoary badge]

LET ME HEAR YOUR WAR CRY!

Y e s

[fervent raft]

who trying to play BF5 when I finsh downloading it?

it going to be done in 15 mins

[feral glade]

i bet bfv willbe free in maybe a year...just to gear up player base for bf6 free to plaY

you on PC?

ill run bfv with you guys

[fervent raft]

i'm on pc

oh

[feral glade]

cool lets meet up in voice channal?

[fervent raft]

that gonna be a while

[feral glade]

i have nothing but time on my hands...heh-heh

[fervent raft]

I have gigabit internet so shit will download quick for me

[feral glade]

no mic?...why?

you can get one cheap

[solid hinge]

Who's the owner?

[feral glade]

you lucky bastid justgameguy....lol

[uneven hollow]

If anything @feral glade After the in first person one I might do another but with no hud in first person

[feral glade]

well with server side netcode its the upload that most important

[uneven hollow]

That is if I can get the confirm kill

[feral glade]

@uneven hollow man that would be worth a watch

well youll have fun trying

[uneven hollow]

Tbh it would be frustrating too

No hud and FP

[fervent raft]

I fucking wish Anthem didn't fail

[feral glade]

probably id imagine

[uneven hollow]

No hud yea due to no circle drops

[feral glade]

hell one of the reasons i fly for shit is i fly in 2st person

[uneven hollow]

FP because can’t properly see them

[gray saffron]

fun fact, the new star wars game will have NO microtransactions. soo uhh, ea not as bad anymore

[feral glade]

i do everything in 1st person...and never buy a 3rd person game

[novel blaze]

why blackburn appearing and disappearing

how he do that

is he dead is he a ghost

how is he hacker man?

[uneven hollow]

And mix both of them
Well that’s where the fun begins

[mighty glade]

season pass

[main birch]

My bf bought bf3

[novel blaze]

your battlefield bought battlefield 3?

[mighty glade]

xD

[feral glade]

@main birch so go buy it too...its cheap and its fun

[main birch]

My boyfriend lol @novel blaze

[feral glade]

her boy friend

wqassn that?

my fingers are getting dumb

[main birch]

@feral glade i don't have my own PC yet. I have med school debt to pay off first.

[mighty glade]

then they have it all

[feral glade]

ahh sorry for that

you have a console then?

[main birch]

Nope

I just have a phone

[feral glade]

nothing to play games on???

damn thats sad as hell

[mighty glade]

cant imagine that 😄

[main birch]

Most mobile games suck, but I found a few games that are good

[feral glade]

youll geb a nice PC for bf6 when you graduate

[mighty glade]

i gues there will be more good games in the future on mobile

[feral glade]

yo?

[main birch]

I already graduated @feral glade
I'm a nurse already 😂

[uneven hollow]

[feral glade]

congradulations ...you are my hero!

[mighty glade]

how should that be possible

[feral glade]

yous still need memory and shit

hahahah...your out in left field man

[mighty glade]

what about the architecure of the components

[feral glade]

memory??

can you print that shit up?

[mighty glade]

no you cant

[feral glade]

hahahah...a joker here

only coolm thing you can print would be a gun

and a graphics card?

[mighty glade]

thats what i mean

[feral glade]

wjhat about a cpu?

[mighty glade]

you cant print processors

[feral glade]

hahaha...no lie

Joao your a joker man

[main birch]

Print me a rtx 3080

[feral glade]

only the case maybe

and i could make a case outta cardboard]

[main birch]

lol

[uneven hollow]

Probably that’s what’s he’s referring

[deep forge]

if bfv had more dlcs it would be 100% better than bf1

[mighty glade]

oh yes

[uneven hollow]

Japs and brits

[mighty glade]

but they stopped working on it

[feral glade]

but bfv was supposed to give dlc away free

[deep forge]

why did they stop tho?

[feral glade]

yeah so they could build bf6

[deep forge]

“we don’t have the tech”

[feral glade]

and they will also release a remaster of bf3 untill they can complete bf6

[mighty glade]

maybe but maybe to save ressources for other projects but i mean they promised

to make it a service game for years

[deep forge]

did they announce it

[feral glade]

bf6 will release in 2002 just get over it

[deep forge]

is it actually coming

bf3?

[solid hinge]

Yes 2002

[mighty glade]

of course

[feral glade]

yea bf3 will come but so will bf6 after

[dense bone]

why did they stop tho?
@deep forge likely the free service model thats supposed to be offset with cosmetics transactions was not pulling in enough money

[mighty glade]

maybe the advertising is better then the one of bfv

[deep forge]

oh

[feral glade]

probably

[main birch]

What's the difference between BF3 and BF4 other than BF4 having sh*t DMRs?

[dense bone]

@solid hinge ea bringing in billions, not a lot of people are stopping

[mighty glade]

better worked out mechanics

[feral glade]

im not gonna stop playing EA games and they arent gonna ever sell loot boxes again...they learned their lesson

[solid hinge]

Bf4 improved on Bf3 in pretty much every way

[feral glade]

true

[mighty glade]

i guess only ea knows for sure why they stopped

[dense bone]

@solid hinge likely the free service model thats supposed to be offset with cosmetics transactions was not pulling in enough money

[muted socket]

doesnt bf3 not have vehicles in the spawn in screen. you have to wait for them on like runways and shit?

[feral glade]

maybe for not certainly nyphon

[mighty glade]

thes have a business plan and if its not working out well then they will stop

[feral glade]

maybe it was time constrains

[dense bone]

i think its easily the most likely situation

[main birch]

@solid hinge how

[deep forge]

I want a battlefield game with cod WaW and black ops type gore

[dense bone]

@solid hinge yes, you just did

[mighty glade]

they are like everyone else a profit orientated company

[dense bone]

< comedic genius

[feral glade]

the biggest profit oriented company in gaming

[mighty glade]

😄

[dense bone]

idk, rockstar seems pretty greedy

[feral glade]

they allm are lets face it

[main birch]

Rockstar is greedy

[dense bone]

i mean, we are getting gta v for the 3rd time...

[mighty glade]

you mean in gtav?

[deep forge]

ofc

[mighty glade]

yeah..

[muted socket]

"babe its time for your gtav port"

"yes honey"

[feral glade]

daamn you wasted your money

[mighty glade]

but did rockstar games ever published a bad game?

[solid hinge]

Isn't hardline dead

[dense bone]

i dont think any company is as evil as the consumers say they are though

[feral glade]

no

[main birch]

Yes honey, you wasted your money

[dense bone]

@solid hinge region, console?

[mighty glade]

there are other methods to gain money in gtav

[uneven hollow]

Exploit the gta v economy

[mighty glade]

HACKERMAN

[uneven hollow]

No hacks dudes

Just use the casino

[feral glade]

scrippy kiddy

[solid hinge]

Why do people complain about bfv going to next gen

Atleast you have a GTA to play

[uneven hollow]

You could literally do the casino to get money

[mighty glade]

yes but you also can lose money

[feral glade]

cause we gamers

[mighty glade]

and if you have no time and just want to enjoy?

[feral glade]

gamers are chatters

[solid hinge]

I hope RDR2 makes its way to ps5

[uneven hollow]

Feck ive gotten you to 19 million form doing the casino within 3 or so days

Yes

[mighty glade]

lucky dude

[uneven hollow]

But works on consoles tho

[feral glade]

stop shouting joao

[muted socket]

do the virtual casinos not have windows like real ones

[mighty glade]

the mechanic is madew on purpose to get people to pay for money

i can understand that but its way too much in my opinion

[uneven hollow]

Tbh tho the 3 card poker game is the best to exploit the money

[main birch]

@solid hinge are you from Brazil?

[uneven hollow]

[mighty glade]

good night 🙂

[feral glade]

brazilero

[main birch]

I'm from Mexico

[feral glade]

good night kyle

[mighty glade]

how is it going there

[deep forge]

I’m from hell

[feral glade]

you look like it too

[main birch]

I currently live in the United States of Expensive

😆

[feral glade]

i hear you nursie

lotta pesos here

[mighty glade]

im from germany

[feral glade]

but im glad your here!

so am i

but i libe in usa of money

[main birch]

@feral glade 💉 😍

@solid hinge yes

[feral glade]

cloud what part of germany are you from?

[mighty glade]

sind dollar nicht weniger wert als euro?

[feral glade]

i was born in darmstadt

[mighty glade]

Sachsen

Leipzig

[feral glade]

oh okay...yea my mom lived there when she was young

said it was very nice

she was actually from selesia

[fervent raft]

it's been 2 mins plus and still have not found a game in BF5

oh nvm

lol

[mighty glade]

yeah its a nice open minded city

[fossil heron]

Dont use quick match

[feral glade]

yeah thats what i here...darmstadt is as well

[fossil heron]

All my homies hate quick match

[main birch]

I'm actually an indigenous mexicana, I'm a Zapoteca and a Oaxaqueña

[feral glade]

did you say you were on PC cloud?

[mighty glade]

yes im on pc

[dense bone]

im a mutt

[feral glade]

you wanna jump in a game?

[fervent raft]

join squad VC 1 if you trying to play

[mighty glade]

sure lets play

[fervent raft]

this game is terribly optimised i can't get to 144 fps on the lowest settings

smh

[feral glade]

okay great going to voice cannel

[main birch]

1.5 mbps sucks

[fossil heron]

Thats really sad

I'm gunna pour one out for that connection

[main birch]

Rural ISPs

[fossil heron]

Get out of the sticks yo

[main birch]

Easier said than done @fossil heron

Elon Musk probably have my back soon

Thanks to Starlink

[mighty glade]

we in germany will have nothing from that

[main birch]

You'll probably get coverage from that in the future

From what I heard, they're about to test the Northern part of the US so the south part should be soon to follow

It might be years before we have global coverage

[mighty glade]

our goverment is building the internet out now but i think it will take much time

of course

sorry for my bad english btw

[solid hinge]

It's not that bad

Better than mine most of the time

[mighty glade]

thanks

[honest plaza]

bf4 is better than bf5

prove me wrong

[mighty glade]

well.. your name says my answer to that

but its still a very nice game

[uneven hollow]

True

If you have fun then that’s all

[honest plaza]

big brain momento

[mighty glade]

but just one momento 😄

[honest plaza]

huh

oh

[mighty glade]

y e s

[honest plaza]

m a y b e

[mighty glade]

so its your shortened name or is it just the word play of the word yes?

🤔

[fossil heron]

BF4s netcode on console at least is still rubbish

[mighty glade]

what a creamy starfish we got here

😁

[fossil heron]

The creamiest

[hoary badge]

@honest plaza Y e s

[mighty glade]

great name for sure

good night guys

[fossil heron]

Gnight cloud

[dense bone]

goodnight you O word

[thorn sluice]

How many players are online ?

Oups

[thorn sluice]

How many players are online in bf 4?

[dense bone]

oh, idk

[solid hinge]

[thorn sluice]

One service says that it is 5 k

[mint marsh]

I just destroyed 3 tanks in one life

bfv

[thorn sluice]

Oh god

[solid hinge]

bf4 probably has more players then any bf on pc

[dense bone]

i dont think it would be beating bfv which is newer and just dropped content a week or so ago

maybe in that weird time before the last content it did

[uneven hollow]

Indeed

[thorn sluice]

In your opinion , what will be with online in bf 4 in the futere , maybe when players will try new bf 6 ?

[dense bone]

...

what?

[thorn sluice]

Oh

T9

Shorty

What will be with bf 4 after new bf 4?

It is about online *

[gray glade]

it depends

if bf6 is modern i reckon some ppl will leave bf4 and start playing bf6

there's always some ppl who stay, but if bf6 is modern and a good game, not much purpose to keep playing bf4 anymore, but certainly a few ppl will

[hoary badge]

Inb4 they try to make BF6 a civil war game

[thorn sluice]

Lol)

[mint marsh]

?

[placid nova]

i dont like modern theme i prefer ww 1 or 2

[mint marsh]

There's been a lot of civil wars but im assuming you're talking about american

[hoary badge]

Yes the american

[placid nova]

vietnam war would be interesting indeed

[gray glade]

there is already a civil war game

[hoary badge]

They’ve done that twice already

[uneven hollow]

True

[gray glade]

"war of rights"

i never tried it tho

[mint marsh]

American civil war is cool but if you're making a game of that genre you might as well do napoleonics

[uneven hollow]

What we need is

[mint marsh]

war of rights is pretty epic

[uneven hollow]

A modern day ww2 and call it battlefield 2042

[hoary badge]

2142

Already done

[uneven hollow]

Yes but that’s future

But I said 2042

[placid nova]

A modern day ww2 and call it battlefield 2042
acutally... DANG no xD

[uneven hollow]

Think about it

We can a triple pack

[mint marsh]

A really easy way to make battlefield V more immersive would be if everyone had those historically accurate uniforms they added

[merry pelican]

i can imagine a futuristic battlefield with bfv graphics

[uneven hollow]

A bundle of battlefield 1942 battlefield 2042 and battlefield 2142

[mint marsh]

I got the tommy and the german one but the game is first person so i can't see it much

[uneven hollow]

STONKS

[placid nova]

A really easy way to make battlefield V more immersive would be if everyone had those historically accurate uniforms they added
thats why i would prefer battlefield 1

[hoary badge]

Then theres COD WW2 that had inaccurate uniforms, that still looked “okay”

[uneven oxide]

COD WW2 was its own, unique mess

[uneven hollow]

True

[hoary badge]

Indeed

[mint marsh]

was playing that earlier with my friend

It's really weird

because it gets so much wrong but still has a strong ww2 feel

[uneven hollow]

Like it brings shame

[placid nova]

call of duty is for me like: DM DM DM

or TDM

[merry pelican]

flashbangs

[gray glade]

i wish bfv had 64 player tdm

on larger maps than it has now of course

[uneven hollow]

[mint marsh]

Modern warfare is fun until you get hit with a stun grenade and then they slide around the corner with an smg deleting you in a frame

[gray glade]

like bf4 tdm was

[fossil heron]

The objectives force firefights tho

Conquest is pretty much tdm

[mint marsh]

Objectives make battlefield feel like a battle

[uneven hollow]

Indeed

Breakthrough feels like a... breakthrough through the battlefield

[placid nova]

TDM is not battlefield like you need objectives and vehiecles

[main birch]

Battlefields bigger maps too

[merry pelican]

like in battlefield 2
you need to destroy enemy UAV stations and stuff like that

artillery cannons too

[main birch]

If you want to slide around with an SMG, COD is for you.

[mint marsh]

I haven't played bf2 multiplayer and the single player made the maps smaller for no reason

[gray glade]

how do the player counts compare between modes I wonder

[mint marsh]

If you want to slide around with an SMG, COD is for you.
@main birch Bf1 happened

[merry pelican]

ye idky

[gray glade]

what is the most popular mode?

in bfv

[mint marsh]

conquest

[merry pelican]

@mint marsh but every multiplayer server has 64 players maps

[placid nova]

i really like conquest

[solid hinge]

Breakthrough and Conquest being the most popular

[placid nova]

it gives the most diffrentiation in gameplay

[mint marsh]

conquest is the more of a sandbox

breakthrough is good if you want to bomb the shiet out of the attackers

[solid hinge]

Conquest isn't good in bf1 and bfv

[placid nova]

but its most like war bc everyone did what they could

[uneven hollow]

But would depend on the map

[mint marsh]

ww2 was not fought like a conquest map.

[placid nova]

i like maps in BF1 the most

[uneven hollow]

Like wake island is more of conquest while underground metro is more like breakthrough

[main birch]

If you want a realistic war game, Arma 3.
But you need an absolute baller of a PC to run it at a stable 30 fps

[solid hinge]

Conquest suits the modern theme bf4 has but not so much ww1 and ww2

[uneven hollow]

But true

[solid hinge]

It's just slow in bf1 and v

[placid nova]

If you want a realistic war game, Arma 3. :GWowoHehe:
But you need an absolute baller of a PC to run it at a stable 30 fps
@main birch but it cant run crysis

xD

[uneven hollow]

Most maps are like a breakthrough feel

[mint marsh]

I love the uniforms they added for uk and germany. I wish that's just what everyone looked like

That would have made the game feel so much more authentic

[main birch]

@placid nova Arma 3 is harder to run than Crysis

[solid hinge]

[mint marsh]

After fortnite br released it seems everyone is trying to sell cosmetics even if the game isn't free

[placid nova]

@main birch never played but heared of the performance problems

[mint marsh]

Dumb cosmetics just dont fit historic games tho

[main birch]

That is so true@mint marsh and saddening

[placid nova]

nevertheless u shouly try to blow up a giant tnt cube in MC

[uneven hollow]

Neither is clown/pirates outfits for bo4 but it’s understandable for bo4

[fossil heron]

Bruh there were some dumb ass uniforms in ww2

[uneven hollow]

True

[solid hinge]

Give me dumb cosmetics in every game

[fossil heron]

Have you seen the pant legs of German officers?

[main birch]

@placid nova it has very atrocious performance issues, but the game is fun to play when it's not lagging

[uneven hollow]

Don’t the Italians have some dumb uniforms

[mint marsh]

Cod isn't exactly immersive but yeah the cosmetics are still dumb

[uneven hollow]

Or the French

[placid nova]

@main birch IF it stops lagging xP

[main birch]

Yep

Which is almost never

[placid nova]

my GT 1030 will thank it

[solid hinge]

If your pc could run crysis back in the day you were the cool kid 😎

[placid nova]

u were the rich guy

[uneven hollow]

[main birch]

Arma 3 barely uses your GPU, but it abuses your CPU

[hoary badge]

Arma 3 = What CPU?

[placid nova]

i only abuse girls KAPPA

[main birch]

Don't abuse me

[placid nova]

xP

nah dont worry, i'm not attractive

and not very self aware

[main birch]

Lol

[placid nova]

and i bet youre not a girl xD

[main birch]

I'm a girl but I'm not a whore

[placid nova]

never called u that

[main birch]

I've only had 1 bf and I'm still witg him

[placid nova]

youre lucky though

[main birch]

Maybe

[solid hinge]

Anyone have a platoon i can join

[dense bone]

platoons would want to know your console and your region btw

[uneven hollow]

True

No idk if 42MD is a real platoon

If you ask noodle

[sonic rampart]

join 9md I heard good stuff about them

[dense bone]

please dont do that to the poor lad

[balmy willow]

uh oh

[solid hinge]

Imagine it BF4 support ended for BFH and BFH was supported for an entire 3 years with no other Battlefield near

Man doesnt that just sound amazing?

[brave coral]

join 42MD! we have so many active members and we organise matches at least once a week!

[pale meteor]

what is the 42md stands for btw?

[brave coral]

i think MD means marine division

so 42nd marine division

but 42MD is a meme, it doesn’t really exist

there’s like 6 of us split across all three platforms and various regions

[gray saffron]

"it doesn't really exist"- every person part of a secret organisation

[brave coral]

shh

[gray saffron]

feel free to use the tag in your name if you want to join

[brave coral]

i was considering actually making a platoon tbh

[gray saffron]

we're open for everyone, but closed for people looking for real milsims >:D

[brave coral]

but i don’t want people in game to think i’m actually a milsim type

[gray saffron]

true 😦

[uneven hollow]

Isn’t the 42 mean 420

[gray saffron]

no 😦 it stands for mg42 or fg42 etc

[uneven hollow]

Well 6 or 7 and a half

[tribal cairn]

I know lots of milsim folk on PS4 who mainly play WT

[gray saffron]

(unless you're dutch, then it's secretly 420 :3)

[tribal cairn]

Tank Divisions and all that

They get really into it as well

They name their tanks, have chain of command

Etc

[gray saffron]

ERIKA

STEFAN!

[brave coral]

tbf i think it would be kinda fun to get really over the top

[gray saffron]

xxxx_420_sniper_xxxxx, oh no, that tank is part of 42md 😦

[brave coral]

but like... be aware that it’s a game

i think some people take themselves too seriously when they milsim

[pale meteor]

Uhm..thanks the info I guess 😄

[gray saffron]

i dunno, if i wanna play milsimmy stuff and do very strategic stuff, I rather play hell let loose than bfv ;D

[brave coral]

there’s this jackfrags video on HLL where he’s just messing about with the two angry gamers and some guy in vc starts shouting at them

like ‘if you are not part of X squad you must get out of the church. my squad is securing the church’

[dense bone]

lol does everyone have better name blocked now or everyone just good at ignoring him?

[brave coral]

and they’re like ‘hehe m1 garand go ping’ while this dude threatens to shoot them for not following orders

@dense bone i just ignore lol

especially that message since it was clearly trying to bait something but like. idk what exactly

[dense bone]

i hate that block does that stupid "these messages are blocked" thing

[solid hinge]

Forgot better name was on this discord

[torn sphinx]

i hate to say it

but battlefield five is garbage

[dense bone]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-what-im-about-to-angry-said-it-serious-gif-12034998

[uneven hollow]

Haven’t seen better name

[torn sphinx]

battlefield one is out of players

[uneven hollow]

[torn sphinx]

and the rest are dated

face it

battlefield is done for

[brave coral]

what do you want

sympathy? bF1 dEaD?

[dense bone]

its better names alt

[uneven hollow]

[solid hinge]

[brave coral]

[torn sphinx]

there are better games and ea has killed your player numbers

[brave coral]

ooh shid

look at the time

[torn sphinx]

there are better games

[dense bone]

yes

[torn sphinx]

than why are you here

[brave coral]

it’s no one cares o’ clock

[dense bone]

being in this chat does not mean i play the game...

[uneven hollow]

Ah now idk how I feel about better name

Again now

[torn sphinx]

btw ps tarkov insurgency HLL and squad are better than you battlefield garbage

[solid hinge]

So why are you here

[dense bone]

thats fine

[solid hinge]

If you hate battlefield why talk in the battlefield chat

[torn sphinx]

i don't know why you support these games

[uneven hollow]

What even happen to your other accounts

[torn sphinx]

and im here wondering why you are here so ill leave

[main birch]

Tarkov is trash and will always be trash.

[dense bone]

o hes leaving, thats good

[uneven hollow]

Indeed

[earnest matrix]

battlefield virgin vs chaddlefield 1

[uneven hollow]

Bring back better name

[dense bone]

thats nice that they said their peace and then leave

[main birch]

EA might be dirty, but Battlestate Games is worse

[muted socket]

how bad are battlestate games

er i mean is

[main birch]

Do a search on YouTube for Escape from Tarkov Corruption

You'll find out

Battlestate Games does flat out illegal sht

[solid hinge]

That's because doing illegal stuff is cool 😎

[dense bone]

youre illegal

[uneven hollow]

[pale meteor]

m

[main birch]

Pls senpai Don't call ICE@dense bone

[dense bone]

ice ice baby

[main birch]

I'll give you free flu shots

[muted socket]

going back to older bf games after playing v for so long feels weird

[main birch]

Feels good doesn't it?@muted socket

[muted socket]

i mean im so used to a lot of things in bfv that i guess i take them for granted

like crouch sprinting

[solid hinge]

Ya do for sure

[muted socket]

squad revives

[main birch]

Crouch sprinting tf

[solid hinge]

Better hope the next game plays like BFV or you're fucked royally

[muted socket]

i like the gunplay in every game so far

its the little things tho

[uneven hollow]

[dense bone]

bfv gunplay > all other BF games

[uneven hollow]

It’s better names

Poggers

[main birch]

BF3 probably has the best gunplay

[solid hinge]

Doesnt feel weird when I play the older games because I played them before the new shit anyways 😂

[muted socket]

also bf4 doesnt have the menu for selecting an objective to cap/defend

i took a hiatus from the series after 3 but came back when v was announced

[solid hinge]

just found out bf4 is on steam. i had just bought it on origin and put in like 6 hours. is there a way to swap it to my steam? and will i keep hours?

[main birch]

Reading about BF4 DMRs is heartbreaking

[muted socket]

o mode?

ah

[uneven hollow]

Bf1 had better squad orders

Fight me

[muted socket]

i generally like all of the games since 3 (minus hardline since i havent played it). they all have their ups and downs

i liked how u can see how many squad leaders selected which objective

[uneven hollow]

Indeed and also point your finger

And say sorry

Miss those features

[solid hinge]

If I refund BF4, then buy it through steam, will I still have my shortcuts/stats?

[uneven hollow]

I could see how the pointy finger one can get bfv into a mess

With the Germans being there and all

[main birch]

My boyfriend bought BF3, Mirror's Edge, Crysis 1, and Need For Speed Undercover today for under $20

[muted socket]

good choices

crysis 1 is fun

[main birch]

I have bad feelings about Undercover though... It looks rather crappy

[pale meteor]

it's an old game...

[midnight needle]

Ready for war!

[pale meteor]

go get them tiger

[crystal blaze]

Why is he floating off the ground

[pale meteor]

Comes with the skin

[midnight needle]

Super German

[crystal blaze]

Helmut singlehandedly captures all the objectives

[icy sluice]

I was playing as a German earlier, I grabbed the collar of a British guy, he cried for his mama before I headbutt him.

Felt a bit like a movie

[uneven hollow]

Yes no primary weapons looks nice

[icy sluice]

No primary gang

[uneven hollow]

[icy sluice]

I should probably start naming my tanks

[mint marsh]

I've always loved the uniforms in ww2

I wish more people would wear the new ones they added

[icy sluice]

I like the older British ones better imo

Weatherman, Patriot and Phantom look good especially with the camo options

[solid hinge]

agreed

[midnight needle]

How bout Oscar Mike?

[pale meteor]

I should probably start naming my tanks
@icy sluice Tank1, Tank2, Tank3..

[icy sluice]

hah

[uneven hollow]

Smoll tank tank Chungus tank

And beefy tank

[crystal blaze]

So do you call the staghound a car

[uneven hollow]

I mean does it drive

[vale fossil]

What’s the most authentic weapon laooduts you can get for each faction?

[solid hinge]

i lov bf

[uneven hollow]

Yes

[vale fossil]

Or like at least Germany

[crystal blaze]

Panzerfaust only

[uneven hollow]

Well you do German weapons right

Germans weapons and gadgets

[solid hinge]

belgian weapons guud too

[vale fossil]

Panzerfaust is the only option ever

[uneven hollow]

Unless you want a German pilot tho

[vale fossil]

Nah probably a medic

[uneven hollow]

Ah

[vale fossil]

Most authentic German medic in terms of weapons and gadgets

[uneven hollow]

Well white helmet is a start

But idk mp40 is the common one I assume

[vale fossil]

True true

[uneven hollow]

Or the other mp weapons

[vale fossil]

I’ll give her a whirl

[uneven hollow]

If you want to can try to get the no primary

And only do German pistol

[vale fossil]

Sounds sexy

I’ll give that a shot also

[uneven hollow]

Looks sexy too when it’s top squad

[vale fossil]

Last night in one of the jungle maps

I decided I wasn’t having fun, so I just ran around trying to melee kill as many as possible

And holy shit bro players are blind af

I could murder a man infront of his team and they would pretend they didn’t see anything

[solid hinge]

ik, its frustrating

[vale fossil]

But the real mvps are the squad mates who run through the battlefield just to revive you

My heart goes out to those brave soldiers

[digital kiln]

i like bein the medic doin all that but like

[solid hinge]

i never get such squadmates, so i often be the change i want to see

but people never do the same

[digital kiln]

sometimes people just expect you to revive then under impossible situations lmao

[vale fossil]

I also revive squad mates when I can

[digital kiln]

them*

[vale fossil]

Heck I feel so bad when I can’t get to them

[muted socket]

me too tbh

[midnight needle]

Eh

Thing about playing medic

Ya can’t save em all

Also you have to prioritize who to save and who to let respawn

[icy sluice]

Also, smoke doesn't mean that the enemy will just stop shooting

[feral flare]

why cant i send images

[icy sluice]

!!regular

[ruby trail]

The Regular role is earned by members who are active, welcoming and resourceful on the server.

[icy sluice]

You need to be a regular to send images

We give the regular status to members we trust

[gray saffron]

use imgur to just send links instead, that is still allowed :3

[solid hinge]

[pale meteor]

Okay, then my lifegoal here will be to earn this Regular status

[feral flare]

ah ok. i just wanted everybody to know that this challenge is shit and it should have never existed https://i.imgur.com/a9Zol0C.png

[mint marsh]

Weatherman, Patriot and Phantom look good especially with the camo options
@icy sluice yeah but they aren't really what British soldiers would wear

[pale meteor]

transport vehicles

[gray saffron]

hmm, that shouldn't be too hard yeah

[pale meteor]

target those

[gray saffron]

patriot + tommy head + tommy pants looks pretty british though

[feral flare]

6 anti tank grenades to kill a land cruiser

out dated

[gray saffron]

@mint marsh

[icy sluice]

That's practically what my Rose wears

[mint marsh]

I prefer just Tommy without any changes but that looks like something someone would wear too

[gray saffron]

can't wait for the more packed version of tommy

[solid hinge]

BFV after 1 year: Less than 10k players on PC
BF1 after a year: Around 50k players on PC

[feral flare]

is bf4 still alive ? i used to play it on xbox but bfv looks terrible

[mint marsh]

I get that's it for the sake of soldier customisation that you can make your character look so weird

[solid hinge]

Too bad the population history of BF1 appears to have been wiped because I would love to see that data again

immershun

[vale fossil]

While battlefield v is in a the worst spot Rn

[gray saffron]

bf4 should still have some activity yeah

[vale fossil]

I still find it fun just to screw around

[torpid blaze]

5 after this update has been hella unstable

3 crashes alone today on map load

[solid hinge]

BF4 got just about the same amount of players as BFV does at this point

It's an ongoing battle but judging by how long BFV has been released it wont last much longer

[feral flare]

im enjoying bf1 but there really is absolutely no progression at all

[vale fossil]

I will be sad tho, not that many new ww2 games gonna be coming out

Modern day set warfare games are fun, but I like the older historic titles

[feral flare]

just play battlefield 1942 lmao what a banger of a game that was

[solid hinge]

BF4 is a pretty special game, cant think of another game when you are jumping off of a fallen skyscraper

Or using a rail gun after shooting into the skies from some futuristic thingy

[gray saffron]

according to steam charts on playercounts at this hour through steam: bf4: 109, bf3: 164, bf1: 523, hardline: error, bfv: 666

[solid hinge]

Dont use Steam Charts

[pale meteor]

hardline error? lol

[gray saffron]

i guess no one bought hardline xd

[torpid blaze]

should be bf5: error

[icy sluice]

I am surprised more people got BF3 on Steam than BF4

[feral flare]

cause most people moved to pc around that time

[gray saffron]

i'd say prolly nostalgia. or the fact bf3 is 10 while 4 is 20 on steam ;D

[torpid blaze]

3 is the last good one, they know best

[feral flare]

they only remember the bf3 golden age

[solid hinge]

bruh

@gray saffron i bought hardline on origin years ago

3 is pretty great

i join a game and its 20 - nearly 600