#battlefield-legacy-titles

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uneven hollow
midnight needle
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Not for everyone*

uneven hollow
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Sadly

mild hollow
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Some of them they dont.

midnight needle
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Yeah AA line is booty

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3 damage per shot, and 5 damage per headshot hit... from quad 50 cals....

mild hollow
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They could easily have given the Japanese and Americans an AA tank

midnight needle
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Not to mention the convergence is fucked

golden ocean
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Japanese and americans already had AA variants for their amphibious vehicles

mild hollow
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But why would Dice and EA actually do something intelligent

golden ocean
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But those aren't real AA

midnight needle
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Dice aren’t THAT bad. 😂

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EA? 🥶🥶🥶🥶

mild hollow
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Dice is fine true

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EA is the real problem

midnight needle
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I’m just going to say this

uneven hollow
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Those “AA” tanks are shit

midnight needle
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Here are the three main issues that DICE struggled with, with BF V: POLITICS, DEMOGRAPHICS, LISTENING TOO MUCH TO THE COMMUNITY.

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Those “AA” tanks are shit
@uneven hollow LVT AA is amazeballs tho ;-;

mild hollow
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Like we could have gotten the self propelled US AAG Tank but nooo

uneven hollow
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Due to the update

solid hinge
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Dice Angry

uneven hollow
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Or has it always been

midnight needle
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Always been

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Always

uneven hollow
midnight needle
uneven hollow
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I guess I suck at it

midnight needle
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Nein

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Practice makes perfect

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Shoot them fuckers up!

uneven hollow
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True but like I find the brits and German AA tanks better

midnight needle
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Cause those were actual flak

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Boom boom Pom Pom

mild hollow
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There was also the Type 98 AA tank that could have been added but never did.

uneven hollow
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Imagine brits v japs

mild hollow
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Oof

uneven hollow
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Indeed

mild hollow
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Brits arent equipped for amphibious warfare

uneven hollow
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True but it’ll mean more land combat while the japs only has the advantage over the waters

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Meaning jap attack

mild hollow
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Japan only takes what is required for there campaign in Asia.

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Bombs one harbor and doesnt hit any critical targets

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Us:Ima end this mans carreer

uneven hollow
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They should’ve aimed for the head

mild hollow
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Nuko reverse

midnight needle
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True but it’ll mean more land combat while the japs only has the advantage over the waters
@uneven hollow Erm... the Japanese were the most stubborn land force during World War Two...

mild hollow
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Haha lets break the Geneva convention.

medics sweating intensifies

uneven hollow
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Well yes but like brits doesn’t have the water tanks tho like in bfv map wise is what I’m referring

mild hollow
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@midnight needle Also in my opinion Japanese warships honestly were terribly designed.

midnight needle
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Their warships? Not so much

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Granted Japan did the reverse german and decided to armor every ship and arm it with the biggest guns,,

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Guns so big they infact could not aim at american destroyers due to their depressive angles...

mild hollow
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The Bismarck: Am I a joke to you

midnight needle
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I’m a huge fan of Bismarck, love the story

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She’s only popular BECAUSE of the story. 😂

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Love her to death

mild hollow
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Took two different Navys to sink that big bitch

uneven hollow
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uwu

midnight needle
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But in reality she did little to no strategic damage..

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Whop. Game time.

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Ping if needed

uneven hollow
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I mean where brits plane used when the japs attacked?

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Tbh idk I’m assuming tanks where but idk

gray glade
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i think a biplane damaged it's rudder

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so it could only turn in one direction

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and then other ships damaged it enough that germans scuttled it themselves and gave up

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still its pretty humiliating

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a biplane rekt that massive ship

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so it was doomed basically

late tendon
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I play battlefield4 on PS3 and I'm confused on the chat. Is it squad chat only or whole team. I also am not fully sure how to speak to teammates and hear them bc I used a Bluetooth headset but I couldn't hear them or talk to them.

solid hinge
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Squad only

late tendon
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Okay, and for the not being able to speak to them or hear them. Is that a common problem and I am wondering how to fix it

midnight needle
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31-2, Provence.

solid hinge
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Check your settings

late tendon
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I have the VoIP to on and I even changed the sound setting to headphones. But still didn't seem to work

pale meteor
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Hello there

solid hinge
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I don't know then

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Maybe your headphones are broken

uneven hollow
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General Kenobi

late tendon
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Alright, thanks for trying tho 👍

pale meteor
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I have just read that on reddit DICE activated the last week's weekly mission for 24 hours

solid hinge
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Yeah

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There is only like 10 hours left tho

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I havnt looked but I'm guessing around 10 hours

pale meteor
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Is there anyone who can tell me when thhis week's mission is going to start?

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oh thanx

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Then I have to get up early

uneven hollow
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Will weekly mission reset or

solid hinge
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The mission already started but next weekly mission is later on

uneven hollow
solid hinge
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Around 10 hours from now

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Which is a complete guess

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Actually 12 hours and 38 minutes untill week 2 starts

barren nymph
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wait wtf we don't have task that give CC anymore?

pale meteor
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Thank you, sir!

barren nymph
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how on earth do I earn CC now lmao

pale meteor
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Level up

solid hinge
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Level up and complete the weekly challenges

barren nymph
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but dude

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that's not enough

gray glade
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that's ok there isn't anymore stuff to buy from now on

solid hinge
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I got 5k today from leveling up and weekly challenges it's not too bad but it's still a grind

barren nymph
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Still dumb

pale meteor
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There are still some common and rare unreleased cosmetics

gray glade
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if you are lower level you should earn CC pretty fast

solid hinge
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They repeat every few weeks so it's not too bad

barren nymph
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level 99

solid hinge
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I'm just after British and American cosmetics

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AKIRA is my main character for German and japan

pale meteor
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For German?

solid hinge
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Yeah

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Like devastation

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Europe maps

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I want pacific playlist to return

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It's so boring having to go through shit to get to then

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Them

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And there were 2 rounds of breakthrough

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One as attacker and the other as defender

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Which was nice

slender drift
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I got the Type 2A.

dense bone
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cool

pale meteor
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Why don't you use Ernest on European maps?

solid hinge
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AKIRA is better

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I swear people are too stupid to know what a melee is

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They be right behind me and no one near me but they shoot instead of melee

dense bone
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i never melee

solid hinge
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Why

dense bone
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i would be surprised if i had more than 50 melee kills out of 200+ hours

slender drift
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Why
Not worth it.

solid hinge
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If no one is around then why waste bullets when you can be silent and save bullets

soft edge
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I melee if they’re close enough

dense bone
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@solid hinge its a janky mechanic that doesnt always work correctly, theres the chance that someone can come up and kill you on your way to them or during the animation, and guns are fun

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i think its objectively the better choice

solid hinge
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I sometimes manage to turn around and kill thee guy shooting

dense bone
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sure, but theres no saying you or someone else would have stopped them if they tried to melee

solid hinge
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I don't listen to the game cause I listen to music so I don't know why people don't melee

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I never escaped a melee

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From behind

dense bone
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plus im a crack shot so if i get the drop on anyone its unlikely that they are going to be able to kill me beforehand

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well people dont know you personally arent listening in game

barren nymph
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Because a PM is quicker than melee

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I mean PM uh

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what is it called

dense bone
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i actually shout at the people that go for melees instead of just shooting them

solid hinge
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So you will rather give away your position and waste bullets than a silent melee

dense bone
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in any game really

barren nymph
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anyways

dense bone
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well my position/playstyle is on objectives and rushing towards the biggest crowd of people mostly

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so theres no sense in trying to save my position

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and its hard to waste bullets when i play the objective and go after kills so much too

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im usually by a supply thing or i pick up ammo from the people i kill

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i dont mean this in any negative way, but its hard to argue with my theory here when my gameplay and stats show im effective as fuck

slender drift
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Wow, I already hate the Type 2A.

dense bone
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why?

lost citrus
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tell me about this new auto two shoting sniper with supressor

dense bone
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doesnt exist?

solid hinge
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Anyone wanna do phantom program room in hangar 21?

quiet sedge
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Its semi auto

dense bone
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unless youre talking recons m3 which is a SAR that is an m1a1 with a black and white scope and is suppressed

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the ONLY way that is 2 shotting is they are low on health or 2 headshots

west marlin
quiet sedge
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New uniforms are great for larping

lost citrus
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yeah this

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its called just auto sniper rifle in my language

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lol

west marlin
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lol

dense bone
lost citrus
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where can i find this^?

dense bone
lost citrus
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thanks, was looking for something like that

west marlin
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This new update is very nice

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i love the new map + new weapon

lost citrus
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i just hate new things to camp in this game

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it feeling more like ww1 cause of that

solid hinge
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Anyone. Wanna do the phantom room on hangar 21?

quiet sedge
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Ww2 had lots of camping too

lost citrus
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not that much for sure XD

midnight needle
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It is now my goal to reach rank 500

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Only 401 ranks to go! 🤣

lost citrus
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snipers on battlefield was to scare opponents more then killing them from 500m

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and there i spawn and getting sniped by 3 people at once in 1/3 matches

solid hinge
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Hey guys, do you have any tips for playing bolt actions without scopes? I want to try that sometime after playing some medic.

dense bone
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!!lfg @solid hinge

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lost citrus
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small pov? XD

dense bone
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@solid hinge i assume you are going to use it for close to medium range?

lost citrus
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i like jungle in close to medium without scope

dense bone
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which means the best bet is to stick with medic and use jungle carbine

solid hinge
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Yep, cuz maybe that would fit a more aggressive sniper playstyle since I see many ppl complain about snipers not ptfoing

gray saffron
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go for lee enfield or fast cycle rate and you're golden with recon

dense bone
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otherwise you use lee enfield which at that point.. youre really putting yourself at a disadvantage for using that instead of jungle carbine

gray saffron
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else just stick to bolt carbines yeah

dense bone
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ptfo "bolt' jungle carbine 100%

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i think you are flat out wrong if you use anything else honestly

fickle idol
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is the mp40 a good gun

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in game

queen canopy
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The lee enfield is the best recon rifle for ptfo, if you do actually want to run recon

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Yes

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Pretty solid all around

solid hinge
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but I if I am playing medic I focus more on reviving so for my play style using carbines for medics doesn't suit me

fickle idol
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omg

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a medic doing his job

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this ones a keeper

dense bone
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well the broken thing about medic is that you can just be selfish and self heal

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(which is really why medic jungle is better)

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jungle vs lee are too similar to not go with the class that gets infinite self heals

lost citrus
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hey, so if my semi auto sniper is called sniper what about assault weapons?

solid hinge
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@fickle idol yep, that's why I use the smoke grenades and the smoke grenade launcher. I don't always focus on reviving all the time every match though.

fickle idol
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of course

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that would be too boring

lost citrus
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hey, so if my semi auto sniper is called sniper what about assault weapons?
what is their name

fickle idol
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thats why the geneva convention doesnt apply in bfv

lost citrus
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in my language its like assault weapon XD

dense bone
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semi auto rifle? @lost citrus

queen canopy
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Semi automatic rifle

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There’s technically no difference

frosty sedge
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B

solid hinge
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@dense bone so only the lee enfield then? Nothing else?

dense bone
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for recon?

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yea basically

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its clearly the best choice for close range bolt action

queen canopy
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The arisaka has a comparable rate of fire

fickle idol
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what about the arisaka

queen canopy
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Bit slower, but still a decently viable rifle

dense bone
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^

solid hinge
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but what if I'm playing german or japanese and want to use weapons from these factions instead?

fickle idol
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or k98k?

queen canopy
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K98 is pretty slow, as is the Gewehr M.95

dense bone
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kar is built for long range

solid hinge
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Since the lee enfield is french if I'm not mistaken

dense bone
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higher velocity

queen canopy
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German rifles are pretty slow, so you’re kind of SOL

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Lee enfield is British

solid hinge
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Oh

lost citrus
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what is the most odd sniper rifle in your opinion?

queen canopy
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The BFG .50

brave coral
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in what way

queen canopy
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If you know you know

fickle idol
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The BFG is.....

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agreed

solid hinge
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So Enfield and arisaka only then?

slender drift
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Apparently.

queen canopy
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Pretty much

solid hinge
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lee has 600m/s velocity, m95 and ross have 750m/s velocity, krag and kar have 900m/s velocity

fickle idol
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youre looking for agressive snipers?

solid hinge
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Yes

fickle idol
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yeah i guess lee and ari

queen canopy
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I mean there’s the pistol carbines, but they aren’t rifles obviously

solid hinge
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arisaka and the new one also have 750m/s velocity I think

dense bone
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CQC ROF is huuuuuuuge,

fickle idol
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yeah

dense bone
slender drift
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Then, there's self-loading rifles.

solid hinge
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The pistol carbines aren't bad but not what I want

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the new one has really low drag though

queen canopy
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Which one?

brave coral
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i would honestly go SLR if you want to be particularly aggressive as recon but retain some sniping ability

solid hinge
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You mean the sestblader, the zh and rsc? @slender drift

brave coral
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@queen canopy the K31

queen canopy
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Oh

dense bone
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lee has the highest skill ceiling, arisaka and the other gun have good body dmg for quick follow ups

queen canopy
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Haven’t used it personally

brave coral
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i wouldn’t for a bit lol

queen canopy
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Lee enfield is a viable CQC weapon if you’re good lol

brave coral
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it don’t work properly

queen canopy
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I’ve hit more than a few nasty flicks with it

solid hinge
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k31 is weird, has lower velocity but also lower drag

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@brave coral problem is that many ppl hate the zh and sestblader. I don't want that

dense bone
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@queen canopy they want a close to med range bolt

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which is lee

queen canopy
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Yep

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Lee enfield is chad

solid hinge
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Very few people hate the bolts

brave coral
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@solid hinge just use the model 8 with iron sights

solid hinge
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because they're shit

brave coral
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and play within 50m

solid hinge
queen canopy
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Oh I hate bolts with a passion don’t worry

solid hinge
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Idk what ppl think about the model 8 or rsc though

dense bone
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@brave coral yea but they said they wanted bolts

brave coral
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oh i missed that bit lol

dense bone
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@solid hinge high skill floor high skill ceiling weapons

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CAN NOT ONE SHOT HEADSHOT

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not widely used because of skill floor, hard to use, and low kill potential per magazine

slender drift
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I hate bolt action guns as well.

solid hinge
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not many people hate the model 8 and RSC, generally considered worse than ZH and selb

coral fiber
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m

queen canopy
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m

slender drift
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I don't even have the ZH unlocked.

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m

brave coral
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it’s funny because they have incredibly fast ttk within the two shot range

solid hinge
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being considered worse doesnt actually make them worse though

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they're just hard to use

queen canopy
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Mods we need the Battlefield M reaction

dense bone
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zh/1906 have unlimited 2 shot potential, have high bullet velocity, and a decent ROF that makes them pretty good up close as well

queen canopy
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Pls

coral fiber
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Never liked slrs

solid hinge
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model 8 with trigger job has an incredibly fast kill time

brave coral
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model 8 goes up to 225rpm so you can basically take someone out at 40m without them being able to react at all

solid hinge
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@dense bone I already tried them and while they are very good, I don't want to garner hate from ppl for using them since they have low skills ceiling

brave coral
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fun

dense bone
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problem is that you have to land follow up shots, and you only get 5 bullets before you have to reload

solid hinge
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The SLRs definitely don't have a low skill ceiling

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Oh, srry then

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Most people don't have more than 30% accuracy, so they average about one kill per mag

dense bone
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only long ranged SLRS have a lower skill ceiling

solid hinge
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Which makes them hard to use!

dense bone
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^

solid hinge
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It's the ZH specifically that people hate, because it's got infinite range

dense bone
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close range SLRS are high skill floor

solid hinge
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I did hear people hating on the sestblader too even if not as much

dense bone
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no one is going to complain if you fuck people up using a model 8 or RSC

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they might call you a hacker if you get good with them because you can delete people quiiiick

solid hinge
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The selb is similar to the ZH, but it doesnt get the detachable magazine spec, so it has a longer reload and can't use a 3x scope unless it wants an even slower reload

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Alright, so far then 4 guns, 2 bolt and 2 SLR are good for aggressive shipping without counting the zh and sestblader since people dislike then

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I'll keep these in mind

dense bone
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well zh/1906 are not for aggressive sniping

solid hinge
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The ZH and selb arent very good up close either way

dense bone
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they are just considered OP since they are really good at range and still pretty good up close

solid hinge
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model 8 has one of the fastest 20 metre to 50 metre kill times in the entire game in comparison

hoary creek
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Guys

dense bone
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model 8 TTK destroys zh/1906 under 50m

hoary creek
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What about anti cheat

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Will get to play this

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Is that too much to ask for?

dense bone
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ive put quiet a bit of time into SLRs

solid hinge
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Model is really nice

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Alright, these 4 will be then, thanks guys.

fickle idol
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why are the historically accurate uniforms in the armory?

gray glade
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why the model 8?

fickle idol
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why arent they free

hoary creek
dense bone
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imo model 8 for smaller game modes, and RSC for larger game modes

fickle idol
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or make them so you can buy em at any time

solid hinge
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They will return

fickle idol
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I NEED THEM

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NOW

solid hinge
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Every few weeks like usual

wheat badge
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I got the new skins 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

dense bone
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@gray glade its a super fun gun with a high skill floor so no one can bitch when i fuck up a server with it

hoary creek
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When anti cheat I want to play this game

fickle idol
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fine

solid hinge
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"need"

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@dense bone i'll have to use the model 8 if I haven't got to lvl 20 sniper yet

fickle idol
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yes "need"

hoary creek
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I need anti cheat

fickle idol
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tired of running around looking likr a clown

solid hinge
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It's "want" not "need"

hoary creek
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Literally unplayable after Pacific

fickle idol
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no i need

hoary creek
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Hackers in every server

solid hinge
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I suggest taking bayonet on the bolt actions as well

west marlin
solid hinge
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Helps for up close

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Understood

dense bone
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ayla is just a bayonetta shill

solid hinge
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lol

hoary creek
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Atleast before Pacific I could have go to other servers now every server is under hacker occupation

solid hinge
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didn't your mother teach you how to talk to a lady

dense bone
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no

solid hinge
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dances

hoary creek
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Still no anti cheat

midnight needle
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Alright. So. 30-2, Provence. Tiger I. 28-8, Provence. Infantry. 20-3, Al Sundan, Infantry.

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Loving the update in short. 😜😋

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What lady? ;-;

solid hinge
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you know what

brave coral
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imagine not taking bayonet on anything that offers it

solid hinge
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I'm still mad the garand only has the bayonet spec on the right side

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I don't want quick reload with bayonet I want lightened stock

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actually im mad it's not on the gun by default but I digress

long ginkgo
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Will BF5 get crossp[lay?????

midnight needle
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No

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Thank Christ

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Crossplay is...

solid hinge
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What specializations should I get with the 4 guns for aggressive sniping(model 8,RSC,Enfield and arisaka)?

midnight needle
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Ew

long ginkgo
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To save what's left of Firesorm

solid hinge
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@long ginkgo at least cross play between ps4 and xbox would be nice

dense bone
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i dont even think putting firestorm f2p would save it

solid hinge
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But PC is a no-no since kbm advantage and cheaters

dense bone
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@solid hinge ehh not 100% true about the advantage

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depending on how strong the aim assist is on console they can have an advantage

pale meteor
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that aim assist is annoying as hell

dense bone
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accuracy wise, im a top notch on console

long ginkgo
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back to WarZone I guess

dense bone
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ill get destroyed by console players at medium range when they have ARs on warzone

solid hinge
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For model 8 I'd go RLLR, RSC RRRX, enfield LRRL and arisaka LRRL

dense bone
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warzones aim assist lets console players "stick" to enemies really easily

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but long range sniping pc has a huuuuuuuge advantage

west marlin
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What is the console for in game?

solid hinge
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@solid hinge um, could you explain a little more detailed please, cuz I don't understand it much that way

dense bone
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shes talking specs

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model 8 go right, then left, then left, then right

solid hinge
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Oh

dense bone
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(from top to bottom)

solid hinge
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Right, thanks then Lady Ayla

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@west marlin what do you mean?

west marlin
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Sorry i use google translate

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The console in the game
What can we do with it?

dense bone
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do you want to open the console screen on pc?

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still confused

solid hinge
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You mean aim assist lucas?

west marlin
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No what order we can do in it

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on the console

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Sorry if you don't understand

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im french so ;-;

quiet sedge
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I love nothing better than stealing one of the other teams tanks

pale meteor
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thief

quiet sedge
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Also I think he wants console commands

pale meteor
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call the police

west marlin
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Yes @quiet sedge

solid hinge
quiet sedge
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I don't know if you can even use console commands, I'm on xbox were you cant

west marlin
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Ohh ok

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thank you for the information

solid hinge
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I like how the special fucks sit back to the last 50 tickets and then decide to rush

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I hate campers so much

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They only ever being pointless on my team but useful on the enemy team

midnight needle
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Lol

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Such language. 😂

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I happen to LOVE campers... they’re so much easier to snipe with an 88mm..

solid hinge
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BF5 would be so much better if the recon class didn’t exist

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I cant think of anything else that has a more negative impact on the game rn than recon

midnight needle
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Care to back up that point? 😂

solid hinge
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Yes

midnight needle
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Cause I can counter snipers with an MP34

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All the classes are what we called “Balanced” now

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It’s up to individual skill

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Speaking of which. 30-0, Tiger I, Provence.

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And yes, I pushed up. 🙄

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Tiger is just slow... she doesn’t like the many, many, many... many.., tiny hills on Provence. 😂

solid hinge
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Recon players contribute nothing to the team, they sit back on the edges of the map making every 32v32 game feel like 12v12. Recon is a lazy playstyle and enables lazy play. It is incredibly frustrating when the enemy team has less recons which means they have more people pushing points. It is absolutely infuriating when you get shot in the back of the head by a lucky twat with a bolt action that basically holds their hand.

midnight needle
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Really? Cause I see recon players push, take out MG posts, snipe out top gunners on Panzers, and spot. Can always rely on a good spot. Plus snipers aren’t limited to bolt action, there’s the SLR’s and the Carbines, which can turn a sniper into a pathfinder.

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I think you’ve just had a few bad experiences

solid hinge
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Recon makes mg posts useless

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Mgs are basically obsolete because of them

midnight needle
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Well with that logic, take out snipers, you’ll complain about entrenched MG nests

solid hinge
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Unless you camp in a corner

midnight needle
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Not really

solid hinge
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Which everyone does

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Because of recons

midnight needle
#

Especially considering an MG can out range and outshoot a sniper

dense bone
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one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse

solid hinge
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On console?

midnight needle
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In general

solid hinge
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Im yet to be killed by an mg past 75m

midnight needle
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Have you NOT seen the M1919 Browning? Fucker is literally like a laser. 😂

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Taking out snipers shouldn’t be a problem

solid hinge
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I have and thats the one that usually gets me at 60-75

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Tbf if recons didnt have scopes for bolts thatd be fine

midnight needle
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Oooh BF I update.. and here I thought they were just trolling.

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Tbf if recons didnt have scopes for bolts thatd be fine
@solid hinge It’s optional

solid hinge
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I know

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Im saying if the scopes werent there

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They forced irons

midnight needle
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I run Kar98k, Gewehr and the Arisaka without scopes

solid hinge
#

Thatd be great

midnight needle
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Not really, wouldn’t be a fair advantage and no one would play the class except for dumbasses like myself.

solid hinge
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Thats what im hoping

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That nobody would play that lazy class

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Literally contributes nothing

midnight needle
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Well.. pray harder cause it’s not happening anytime soon, especially if BF 6 is a “reboot” of BF 3 or set in the modern era

sonic rampart
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What class

midnight needle
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Then there’s NO bullet drop. 🙃

solid hinge
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Oh I know its not going anywhere

midnight needle
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What class
@sonic rampart He’s ranting about recon and how “lazy” and “unproductive” it is.

solid hinge
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Im just beyond frustrated they cater to these mouth breathers who camp with bolts

sonic rampart
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Bruh

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Every class is there for a reason

solid hinge
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Recon has no reason

midnight needle
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Tell ya what, Tav, have a few punches with him, Imma go get a snack.

sonic rampart
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They are there for spotting, providing Intel etc

midnight needle
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Yes. Yes I do. ^^

solid hinge
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Etc such as?

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Nothing, thats right

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The UAV is not even that useful now

midnight needle
#

You run Arisaka without a scope? I use the M.95/30 without a scope like the BF1 fanboy that I am
@solid hinge My longest shot in BF I is with the Lebel at 532m. Iron sights.

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UAV?

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The fuck? 😂

solid hinge
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The killstreak from cod4

sonic rampart
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Bruh

midnight needle
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Oh. You mean any cod set in modern day

solid hinge
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U get that when u use spotting flares

midnight needle
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Even WW2 has a “UAV” format actually... 🤔

solid hinge
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At least they give u points now for destroying them

sonic rampart
#

Flares are OP

solid hinge
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I just dont find them useful

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Provence is worse than Al Mark on BT

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BF5 is such a twitch shooter you can just kill on reaction

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The maps are too big for the cod uav to be useful imo

sonic rampart
#

Bruh

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Go play cod

solid hinge
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Bruh bruh

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Why would I play cor

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Cod

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Its a shit game

midnight needle
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And, @midnight needle look at the one comment on your vid. As the holy man Gordon Ramsay would say, "Disgusting!"
@solid hinge Omg! Wtf! 😂😂😂

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I’m deleting that fuckin comment

sonic rampart
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Because you find the maps too big?

solid hinge
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What the

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Is english not ur first language?

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Not trying to be rude

paper lodge
#

I should use the 96mm howitzer on the churchill mkvii?

sonic rampart
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Spotting flares dont need to cover a whole map

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Is what Im saying

solid hinge
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but who asked

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Lmfao

sonic rampart
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You need to know where you want to see the information

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Instead of a whole ‘cod map uav’

midnight needle
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Considering the fact that Battlefield is a “squad focused” game, the spotting flares serve their purpose and function exceptionally well considering the spotting area is tight and precise, leaving room for more coordinated strikes.

sonic rampart
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^

midnight needle
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Compared to a UAV which, isn’t as reliable

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Frankly I find it frustrating in CoD

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Mainly because the targets constantly disappear and reappear

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Like.. it’s 21st century tech

midnight needle
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Can it NOT act like it was made by some dumbass in his basement? 😁

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Lol. Confused?

solid hinge
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Considering the fact that Battlefield is a “squad focused” game, the spotting flares serve their purpose and function exceptionally well considering the spotting area is tight and precise, leaving room for more coordinated strikes.
@midnight needle I said I don’t personally find it useful at this point because Ive played this game so much I can just kill on reaction as the game is so fast paced and requires very little thought

quiet sedge
#

I love how in cod and bf4 you can drink some cool juice and it freezes you so thermals cant see you but you can act normally

midnight needle
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“Very little thought”?

solid hinge
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So for me recons contribute nothing

midnight needle
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Really?

solid hinge
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Are you arguing otherwise lol?

midnight needle
#

Sergeant, have you ever played the pathfinder class?

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Do you know the role of a pathfinder?

solid hinge
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What game are we talking about rn

icy sluice
#

Pathfinder is pretty useful

solid hinge
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Is this a recon role or have you switched topics

icy sluice
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It's a Recon Role

mint marsh
#

Whats that website that tracks your bfv stats?

midnight needle
#

Equip a homing beacon and a pistol carbine, mixed with spotting flares and two smokes? You can literally get behind enemy lines, drop a beacon, have OTHER PATHFINDERS, from OTHER SQUADS, spawn on you as well as your SQUAD and wreak havoc into the enemy’s backside.

solid hinge
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🤔 the roles... barely impact the gameplay lmao

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I can just do that as an assault too lmao

mint marsh
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Oh there's a stats channel

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Nvm

solid hinge
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Go around, cap a flag and bam

midnight needle
#

Whats that website that tracks your bfv stats?
@mint marsh Just go to #stats and type in !bfvstats (platform) and your name. The link should accompany.

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Lol damn it I was too slow. 😜 He figured it out

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🤔 the roles... barely impact the gameplay lmao
@solid hinge Really?

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A vehicle buster assault doesn’t help?

solid hinge
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Also how are like people camping at the back of the map gonna wreak havoc from behind bro

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Aint adding up

midnight needle
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A machine gunner who can spot targets he suppresses for his team doesn’t help?

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A pathfinder who can spawn on other squads spawn beacons, doesn’t help?

solid hinge
#

The impact is miniscule at best

midnight needle
#

How bout engineer? They don’t help allied tanks?

solid hinge
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Ive probably been repaired 20 times since launch

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And I have 4d in tanks

uneven hollow
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Medic reviving dead players which can later over take an obj

midnight needle
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Dude... ya kind of dig yourself in to a hole here, I get it, but Imma need ya head to come out ya butt so you can hear me clearly.

solid hinge
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Medic is the only class who has a big impact I’ll give u that

uneven hollow
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Pilots taking out tanks and bombers and what not

midnight needle
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Engineers who can build stationary weapons and field guns?

solid hinge
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Pilots arent class subclasses though

uneven hollow
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Tanks for that massive attack

icy sluice
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Engineer's repair tool is much better than Machine Gunner's Repair Tool

uneven hollow
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True but most bf games have that

icy sluice
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I was a pure ammo support in BF1

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Ammo Pouches and Crates

solid hinge
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It doesn’t matter if the engineers repair tool is better when theres like 2 people in the whole game who even read through them

sonic rampart
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Ive had a match in bf1 once where we were losing until the whole team became medics

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So everyone revived each other

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And the enemies couldnt take the objective

midnight needle
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It doesn’t matter if the engineers repair tool is better when theres like 2 people in the whole game who even read through them
@solid hinge Considering how many people are coming out to tell you you’re wrong, I’d say it’s more than 2

icy sluice
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I mean it does, I can tell when someone is using the Machine Gunner role when I get spotted by someone unloading an MMG into my direction

sonic rampart
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It was in the cathedral map of bf1 operations

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Tsaritsyn

solid hinge
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5 people from a playerbase of probably 70K

sonic rampart
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Or something like that

solid hinge
sonic rampart
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It was the cathedral objective

icy sluice
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Also, can't really tell when people switch between roles

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or how many people actually do change roles

solid hinge
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Also, can't really tell when people switch between roles
@icy sluice thanks for backing me up

icy sluice
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You can't tell unless you do what the role does differently

midnight needle
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Meaning people look at roles and use them strategically.

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Such as machine gunners who use MMGs to suppress and spot

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And engineers to build and repair. 🤦‍♂️

icy sluice
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Snipers spotting or spawning on beacons being differences
Supports repairing faster or spotting
Medics pinging for revives and moving faster
Assaults just... playing or spotting vehicles

midnight needle
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^

solid hinge
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Lets put it this way

icy sluice
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After all the roles add perks to what they're intended to do.

west marlin
#

Na = North America ?

solid hinge
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Assaults- Anti Tank
Medic- revives and healing
Support- ammunition and suppression
Recon- camping far away from objectives, shooting people at random and spamming flares because they saw how many points it gave

sonic rampart
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Lol

midnight needle
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You seriously have a hate boner for recon

sonic rampart
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I guess Thats a diff way of looking at it

solid hinge
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That’s exactly how it works

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And precisely how it is

ebon moat
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lf bf4 squad 1

midnight needle
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No it isn’t :/

sonic rampart
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In some rounds it is

midnight needle
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In some, yes, but it isn’t all

icy sluice
#

And medics sure like to camp boomer_sipp

sonic rampart
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Recons camping in the back of the map instead of pushing up

solid hinge
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Recon is the only source of frustration for me in bf5

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So ofc im biased

midnight needle
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Same with tanks, MMGs and medics

icy sluice
#

I just avoid other Recons tbh

sonic rampart
#

Good thing the medics dont have snipers now...

midnight needle
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They do*

solid hinge
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Yall should admit ur bias too

sonic rampart
#

1

solid hinge
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Like all of u r are recon mains

midnight needle
#

1
@sonic rampart 3

solid hinge
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They have the jungle carbine and the commando carbine @sonic rampart

sonic rampart
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1 good one

midnight needle
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And the M28

sonic rampart
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The jungle

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The others are meh options

midnight needle
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Yet M28 outclasses it. 😂

sonic rampart
#

What classes will the next battlefield have ThinkHmm

solid hinge
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I don't use these since they don't fit my playstyle. Cuz like I said before, I mostly try to focus more on reviving

sonic rampart
#

Assault Medic Engineer Support Recon ThinkHmm

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Or back to Assault medics GWcorbinTopKek

midnight needle
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Yeah... back to Battlefield 4 and 3...

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Ah well

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Enjoyed the early half of the 1900’s for four years now. 😜

sonic rampart
#

Kind of like medics being a diff class

midnight needle
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“Meh-dik”

icy sluice
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Assault Support and Recon :v

midnight needle
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I like the idea of squad mates being able to revive regardless of class though

sonic rampart
#

^

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I love that addition

icy sluice
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Assault does healing and also destroying vehicles :p (Not really)

solid hinge
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I think it would be more balanced if medics would be a standalone class for the next bf instead of assault medical like bf4

sonic rampart
#

^

solid hinge
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Cuz it gives me less incentive to play other classes sometimes

sonic rampart
#

And return guns all classes can have

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Dmr etc

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And attachments instead of specs

midnight needle
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@midnight needle But doesn't that destroy the point of class specific weapons? In BF1 I mainly played as the Medic for the Fedorov Avtomat and the M1909 SL Sweeper
@solid hinge It really won’t disrupt the class specific weapons more or less the squad dynamic. I don’t mean merging all in to one, I mean being able to revive regardless of what class you are, in your squad, like we have here in BF V 😂

sonic rampart
#

Eventho I didnt know what all the attachments were supposed to do

mint marsh
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Just played some conquest and it ended 586 to us

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Bruh

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Not even a battle

midnight needle
#

Potato team versus tryhards

mint marsh
#

There isn't a team balancer right?

midnight needle
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Not like in BF I where it removes you from your team and places you on the other team.

icy sluice
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There's a between rounds balancer

#

okay, I need to drink something if I make a mistake like that lmao

midnight needle
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In BF V???

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Oh

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LOL

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Was about to say

icy sluice
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I am personally very against balancing in the middle of the match. (Especially if it's pretty late like 200-600)

midnight needle
#

Right...

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Hated when DICE added that feature to BF I 😂😂😂

quiet sedge
#

I've been in matches were the other team has had half our numbers for the entire game

solid hinge
#

We call that team balance

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Perfectly balanced as all matches should be

midnight needle
#

It’s even better when we have half your numbers and double your score. 😜

#

I’ve one shot sooo many tanks tonight and held D on my own against infantry, jeeps, you name it. 😂

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Hate that the Tiger has only 20 main rounds though. :/

mint marsh
#

I've used the wellgun too much and I'm potato with every other weapon

midnight needle
#

Lol. Haven’t even touched the wellgun

mint marsh
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Woops

midnight needle
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Been killed by it a couple times tho 😂

mint marsh
#

Its so easy to use

#

Its really accurate

#

Low fire rate for an smg

midnight needle
#

Lower than MP34?

mint marsh
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I'm not sure I'll check

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Oh I was wrong lmao

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Its 568

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Mp34 is 514

midnight needle
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Lol

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Would love to test DICE games, help find bugs, give feedback an the like. 😜

#

Be a nice career. Also pick up some knowledge in video game design and software design

jade gust
#

Hmm

elfin patrol
#

Hey guys, i've got a quick question.
Is Battlefield 1 on PS4 worth it? As in, is it still active?

solid hinge
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People say its still active in EU servers

elfin patrol
#

mkay. Is Battlefield 1 a good game? It seems really cool.

solid hinge
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It's OK but I don't think bf1 has many servers in OCE

elfin patrol
#

ok. ok.

uneven hollow
#

Noobziez it has been done yet again

solid hinge
#

No words

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How do you do it

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I tried earlier

uneven hollow
#

Well you up and then go down

solid hinge
#

I just died

uneven hollow
#

Drop the bombs when doing it

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Like at a close moment so the enemy can get the kill as well

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Or so

elfin patrol
#

Or would it be better to purchase Battlefield 5 instead of 1. Sorry about asking a ton of questions, I'm really bad at making choices.

solid hinge
#

I drop bombs its just in very inaccurate

uneven hollow
#

Ah

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Well you are using the two bombs right

solid hinge
#

Ye

uneven hollow
#

Well you are using a jap plane right

#

Even tho it doesn’t matter

#

Tbh idk

solid hinge
#

It just me needing to get good

uneven hollow
#

I mean if it makes you better I have a clip where I keep on crashing at the wrong time

tribal cairn
#

So. Learned the hard way that Shermans and Sturmtigers are basically never meant to meet each other

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Considering that it's an instant kill

lost knoll
#

What happened to adding team balancer?

#

It’s taking hrs just finding a decent lobby that isn’t a stomp DICEPls

tribal cairn
#

Also apparently, Heat t doesn't exactly help you against Tigers, it would seem like. Sure you out dps them, but they do 30-40 damage no matter what ammo they have

solid hinge
#

Only 4 Operations servers on BF1 LULW

#

Holy moly that's worse than I thought

#

BF4's about to outlive like 3 BF titles so beautiful

soft edge
#

I saw someone talking trash about recon

#

I’m not going to deny that most recon players contribute nothing but to say that recon in general provides nothing is outright wrong

#

I don’t really play recon anymore but when I did I pushed obj. and constantly used flares

uneven hollow
#

The best recons are the ones who pushes

soft edge
#

Flares are incredibly useful

empty mauve
#

Hello

soft edge
#

Hello

empty mauve
#

What are your favourite classes

#

Mine is support and recon

soft edge
#

Use to be recon and medic now I mostly play assault and support

balmy willow
#

ok now i just need to find an air superiority server

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for me its assault and engineer

empty mauve
#

Oh nice

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I don’t use assault that much

balmy willow
#

i havent used assault in a while too

#

i have been using engineer more

empty mauve
#

Do you prefer to use vehicles or go on ground

uneven hollow
#

Water will be lovely but

empty mauve
#

Oh yeah I forgot about that

midnight needle
#

Also apparently, Heat t doesn't exactly help you against Tigers, it would seem like. Sure you out dps them, but they do 30-40 damage no matter what ammo they have
@tribal cairn For the Sherman the HEAT-T turns a 5-7 shot fight to a 3-4 shot and for a Tiger, HEAT-T turns any fight in to a 1-3 shot. Do about 66 average damage to Sherman’s per every HEAT-T shot.

soft edge
#

Assault is good, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't like Recon
I love bolt action rifles but I’m to aggressive and you can’t use bolt action rifles against the guns the other classes use

midnight needle
#

Also you can angle your hull to take less damage

soft edge
#

And I hate sniping so I use iron sights

#

Also you can angle your hull to take less damage
They have that in this game?

midnight needle
#

Yes

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You can bounce shots too

soft edge
#

I wish the tanks were more like war thunder’s

midnight needle
#

I don’t

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WT has shit physics ;-;

tribal cairn
#

I know how to angle

#

It still doesn't help the fact that the Sherman is very fragile against the Tiger

midnight needle
#

Sherman has to be smart

tribal cairn
#

Now add another Tiger or a Panzer,

midnight needle
#

Or outplay the tiger.

tribal cairn
#

Plus 5 of his assault lackeys

soft edge
#

I wonder if they had plans for an American heavy tank

midnight needle
#

Well you don’t charge in alone...

tribal cairn
#

Outplay? I'm in a open fucking field

midnight needle
#

Positioning is a part of playing smart.

tribal cairn
#

Let's see here, there's a bush, but that's too close to the objective,

midnight needle
#

Smoke and reverse that bitch

soft edge
#

Or outplay the tiger.
Or just do a me and keep repairing the allied sherman tank until the tiger is dead

tribal cairn
#

And also, do you think I don't do that?

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I'm always on the retreat

midnight needle
#

😂

#

We should call you French then. 😜

soft edge
#

Are you French

midnight needle
#

Damn...

uneven hollow
#

I wanted to be on a ship in bfv

tribal cairn
#

It's dumb as hell to be offensive with the Sherman if you don't have a flamethrower or a teammate

midnight needle
#

Erm...

#

I beg to differ...

soft edge
#

Yah I hate camping tanks that snipe but I understand why they do it

tribal cairn
#

I also beg to differ to your beg to differ

soft edge
#

It only take like two assaults to blow up a tank

tribal cairn
#

One, exactly

midnight needle
#

It only take like two assaults to blow up a tank
@soft edge Only takes 1

soft edge
#

Well if they can get back to an ammo refill maybe

uneven hollow
#

Indeed

tribal cairn
#

Now imagine a lobby where 90% is assault

#

I've had some good tank matches, but Jesus Christ, fighting other tanks in the Sherman is a fucking pain in the ass

midnight needle
#

This is why I let infantry fight infantry and I always wait for the bastards to crest the hill.. niiiice rocket launcher ya got there.. shame ya can’t see me before this shot sends you back to spawn.

soft edge
#

Yah the bazooka did not help

midnight needle
#

Went 40-3 in a Sherman on Provence today

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HEAT-T is fun..

tribal cairn
#

I got away with capturing objectives because I sprayed my flamethrower in every conceivable angle

soft edge
#

Unlike all the other ranged anti tank, the bazooka shoots at straight line

midnight needle
#

Same with like 30 main gun rounds

tribal cairn
#

Now I reset,

#

And put myself in a anti tank spec tree

midnight needle
#

Had a sherman try to burn my Tiger with the flame thrower

tribal cairn
#

I went about 54 to 7 on Panzersturm once as a Sherman

quiet sedge
#

An enemy abandoned a Sherman early on in panzerstorm so I stole it, repaired it and spent most of the match grouped with my teams 4 tanks killing everything

midnight needle
#

I waited till he used all 900 ozs of his fuel and blew his turret off

tribal cairn
#

Shermans can be powerful,

midnight needle
#

If played right, yeah.

tribal cairn
#

But especially for the 76mm spec tree,

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They need support

midnight needle
#

But if you lemming over a hill firing your machine gun and show me that front plate... you’ll only last legit ten seconds.

quiet sedge
#

5 tanks shooting one thing is super quick at killing things

tribal cairn
#

The reason I enjoyed the other tree was because you could be impervious to bum rushing assaults

soft edge
#

5 tanks shooting one thing is super quick at killing things
I would assume so

tribal cairn
#

Flamethrowers are a helpful thing for that situation

midnight needle
#

The reason I enjoyed the other tree was because you could be impervious to bum rushing assaults
@tribal cairn How bout when the assaults are at range? That flamethrower only becomes a blinding obstacle.

soft edge
#

Are there buildable flamethrower stations on European maps besides operation underground?

tribal cairn
#

I did say could

midnight needle
#

Speaking of which, I’m putting the flame thrower on the greyhound

#

Wait...

#

Meant the howitzer. 😂

tribal cairn
#

I was rather quite unkillable on the forest objective in Panzersturm

#

Used the 75 to take down Incoming transports and pumas,

#

And flamethrower to roast any infantry that survived or got too close

soft edge
#

I really like the Provence queue thing but I wish the new small sand map would come more often

#

I’ve only played it once

tribal cairn
#

Thing is, I'm pretty sure I got lucky as well, since not everyone and everything was a Bazooka during those good matches

#

I've seen a giant influx of bazookas and stuff with the weekly thing

#

Yeah, pretty much everyone was an assault in my last bad match

midnight needle
#

Seen a huge influx since they added the Bazooka >_>

tribal cairn
#

Because it's a bazooka

#

If the Panzershreck were added, it would be used even more because anti sniper protection

#

The blast shield

#

Sure probably wouldn't help much against bullets in real life

#

But oh well

soft edge
#

I want it

#

Mostly because I prefer to use faction specific weapons and gadgets

tribal cairn
#

As do I

#

I feel strange using contradicting weapons for factions

soft edge
#

Even since I learned about turning off loadout mirroring it’s been a bliss

tribal cairn
#

Like I shouldn't be doing it

#

I dunno

soft edge
#

I just like immersion

tribal cairn
#

Yeah, that's about it

#

I slapped the Feldgrau on my recon and grabbed a Kar98k with Iron sights

#

And went ham

soft edge
#

I want to join a server where everyone does that

#

Then I would do it

#

I do value winning over everything else

#

I mostly just use the fg42

tribal cairn
#

I already know.

#

Blast shield

soft edge
#

That’s interesting

tribal cairn
#

Rocket blast

#

Your face would melt off

#

Your not the only military technology enthusiast

soft edge
#

They’re excuse to not add the panzerschreck doesn’t add up since they added the Johnson which is basically just an American Gewehr 43

solid hinge
#

BF1's dead HyperWeary

wise notch
#

Yes

tribal cairn
#

Yeah, Which I'm surprised people don't use the G43 anymore

#

It's an amazing rifle

soft edge
#

I use it

tribal cairn
#

I always use it on my German Assault

midnight needle
#

Sherman time. 😈

soft edge
#

Same

tribal cairn
#

Have fun

midnight needle
#

G43 is too bouncy for me

soft edge
#

I need to get the clip upgrade

tribal cairn
#

I used to have that issue as well with it

#

But I grew into it

soft edge
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But I want the cosmetics first

tribal cairn
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I've been grinding medic so that I can use the Thompson

soft edge
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I don’t like the Thompson personally

tribal cairn
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Eh, even if I don't like it, I'll just adapt to it

midnight needle
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Erm... well that’s new

tribal cairn
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What?

midnight needle
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Tiger just did 99 damage...

soft edge
midnight needle
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From the front

tribal cairn
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You sure that wasn't a Sturmtiger? They do instant kills

midnight needle
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Le splain dat?

soft edge
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Finally the tiger is historically accurate

midnight needle
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Pretty sure I know the difference between a 380mm mortar rocket and a 88mm...

tribal cairn
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Well then damage is bugged

soft edge
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Nearly one shoting everything

tribal cairn
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Unless that tiger came from real life

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Nearly, until the Soviets came along

midnight needle
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If it was real life I would have died in the first shot

soft edge
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Imagine being on the otherside of that

tribal cairn
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And if it were real life, Shermans with the 76 would have no problem taking a Tiger down from the front

solid hinge
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#SaveBFV

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Jk lmao

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Not enough players to make that happen

quiet sedge
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Let bfv die in peace

tribal cairn
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Eh it's the least they can do

soft edge
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The gunplay was fun so it’s a shame that it’s dying

solid hinge
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Gunplay will prob be better in 6 anyways yawn

tribal cairn
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Or it'll be the same

quiet sedge
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Bfv is that fella in a TV show who has an abusive childhood and is the bad guy but then gets a redemption arc but then the actor leaves the show before the arc finishes and he is killed off screen

soft edge
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In terms of gunplay and mechanics I enjoyed bf5 way more than bf1.

midnight needle
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Imma play till the servers shut down 🤷‍♂️

solid hinge
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Actually BFV was killed on screen with 5.2, then the actor leaves

midnight needle
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5.2... we don’t talk about that

solid hinge
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It wasn't killed as it still lives

midnight needle
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It’s... adrift

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Like an island

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And we’re survivors I guess

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Time to build a Starbucks on the bitch

solid hinge
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I wish I could always play as the axis so I can be AKIRA

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I don't want to be the Americans

midnight needle
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<_<

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Not weird at all my guy

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Not weird at all

solid hinge
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The Americans suck ass

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I want a tiger not sherman

soft edge
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I prefer to play as the axis because I like their guns and vehicles better as well as the voice actors

midnight needle
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I love Frank tho. 😂

tribal cairn
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Just imagine their next elite being some redneck sumbitch they pulled out of the swamps to fight for them

solid hinge
midnight needle
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Well...

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We’re getting SS Santa Claus...

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So nothing surprises me

tribal cairn
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So anything can happen

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Yeah

midnight needle
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Would love to see a Panther

solid hinge
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What you mean by santa claus

midnight needle
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Or maybe even a FIREFLY

tribal cairn
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Oh definitely yes

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Panther would be nice

midnight needle
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Would be nice

solid hinge
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There's a new elite coming?

midnight needle
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But doubtful

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There's a new elite coming?
@solid hinge Yes

solid hinge
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Noice

midnight needle
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Doubtful unless they add in a Firefly for the Americans

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Or a Wolverine >.>

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Would like a Wolverine

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Would counter Tiger

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Or at least go toe to toe, blow for blow.

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Surely DICE has some resources left for BF V..

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True but.. who knows

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Maybe with COVID in the mix it’ll delay a bit of the next gen game

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Considering PS5 and Xbox Series X is being delayed as well

solid hinge
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Woah

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I saw a vid of a soldier in bf4 waving

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In mp

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How can you wave like that

midnight needle
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🤷‍♂️

solid hinge
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I think it's random

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calling for meds or ammo

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Oh yeah maybe

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It's only a third person animation so you wouldn't know if you did it or no

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Yeah

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"... love it deserves" WoahTea

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No hugs Angry

dense bone
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rsc and welgun are good

quiet sedge
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Getting back into the mp40 for the larping with the new uniforms

dense bone
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i didnt care for rsc before

midnight needle
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RSC was better in BF I 😂

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The Selbstlader was better in BF I too. Their RoF got a bit lowered

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MP34 is fun too

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Especially with the bayonet

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Go ahead... run outta ammo... imma just run 😈

solid hinge
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I want DICE to remove 2a

midnight needle
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Yeah 2A kinda ruined the game for a bit. 😂

solid hinge
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There is no way to nerf 2a besides removing it

dense bone
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2a is fine

solid hinge
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How is it fine

midnight needle
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No it isn’t

dense bone
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shit gun beyond 30m

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gets wrecked by shotties

midnight needle
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30m

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Anything gets wrecked by shotguns

solid hinge
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Getting dropped in less that a second isn't fine

midnight needle
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The fuck?

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That ain’t even an argument. 😂

dense bone
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at what range do shotguns wreck?

midnight needle
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Even shotguns get out shotgun’d by a shotgun

dense bone
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you know shotguns effective right is roughly 20m

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so for 20m the 2a is beat out

midnight needle
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And you know a Smg with a higher rof than a MG42 is ridiculous.

dense bone
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theres a 10m range where its better than shotguns, but at 20m it starts getting beat by just about any other gun

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ROF is a meme of a joke to bring up when talking about balance

solid hinge
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2a only nerf is by removing it

midnight needle
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How is it a joke

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It’s literally how fast the gun can fire.

dense bone
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you can have 3k rpm but if each bullet hits for 10 dmg and horizontal recoil is insane its gonna be a shit gun

solid hinge
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1200rpm in close combat is a joke

dense bone
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because how fast a gun fires isnt the only variable to consider

solid hinge
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The recoil on 2a isn't even bad

dense bone
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idk about console with AA

solid hinge
midnight needle
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So three thousand rounds per minute... that’s... 50 rounds PER SECOND

dense bone
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but its definitely not op on pc

midnight needle
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At 10 damage per shot?

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That’s 500 damage a second

dense bone
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with horrible hrec means you wouldnt land a shot

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accuracy is a thing you know

midnight needle
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The hrec isn’t enough to through that tho

solid hinge
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2a needs to be removed for a good reason

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Atleast the Mg42 has its downsides to the 1200rpm

dense bone
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if youre getting wrecked by 2a consistently you are fighting them under 25m and arent using a shottie or other close range effective weapon

midnight needle
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Like shitty hrec and vrec

dense bone
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thats really all there is to it

dense bone
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the TTK on that gun at 20m is the same as 1906 and zh for crying out loud...

solid hinge
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You got to be more accurate with shotgun

dense bone
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at 20m you can literally lose to a long range slr with a 2a