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#battlefield-legacy-titles
oblique pendant
So bfV now is the finished product
wet fossil
I swear I always join full servers and then the next map loads in and half of them have fucked off
wet fossil
They'll always find excuses to not do their jobs.
solid hinge
Russia was part of the reason why I bought the game
wet fossil
Right now a whole bunch of companies think withholding content counts as protest support.
noble field
@wet fossil CAUSE THERE IS NO TEAMBALANCE AND PLATOONS RUN BFV
PLATOONS WILL STACK FOR DAYS
stack emm up top 10
communication teamwork > solo grind
once blueberries get bad beatdown
they leave game
soft juniper
anyone see the tiny red m near the crosshair
uneven hollow
The m is within you
soft juniper
lol the m near the crosshair
wet fossil
This match has been going for three minutes and the enemy's already down to 250...
rain shale
I mean battlefield like the newest cod modern warfare would be cool lol
prime pine
Provence x2 then al Sundan, provence x2 then panzerstorm, provence x2 then twisted
soft juniper
BFV War in Provence update
prime pine
We better get a breakthrough play list next
soft juniper
Lol finally a map without planes but still tanks
prime pine
Provence, libya, twisted, panzerstorm and al sundan all on breakthrough
soft juniper
I hate planes
solid hinge
Why did they add the hellcat to the al marj encampment
wet fossil
I reckon they were trying to make sure at least one of them got by the lines to allow the rest to spawn.
prime pine
Which are more destructive than the 4x and 8x rockets but more geared for anti ground
wet fossil
Didn't work out when they literally ran straight into me. One of their cars ended up mounting my Greyhound.
soft juniper
The Sherman in this map is so unbalanced
wet fossil
The other two legged it, but they couldn't get out of there fast enough
soft juniper
any Tiger litteraly stand no chances
wet fossil
Are you joking, the Tiger's kicking the shit out of them.
The Sherman needs a fully upgraded gun and HEAT shells just to stand a chance.
The Tiger can blast them right out of the gate.
No armour upgrades.
wet fossil
We need heavies.
soft juniper
25000 points
tribal cairn
Yeah, a heavy tank would be nice
Don't get me wrong, the Sherman is a mighty fine do-it-all
But there is a need for a heavy tank to counteract the Tigers without needing to grind your ass off
wet fossil
The new vehicles don't show in the statistics screen
tough lodge
tribal cairn
I just took a random potshot at the Provence Churchtower at the beginning of the round and got a double kill
wet fossil
They always keep cramming themselves up there.
A bit hard to get them out if you've only got a Puma
Tiny elevation on the gun.
quiet sedge
If you want to counter tigers all you need is a few good panzerfausts and a boom boom stick
wet fossil
Tiger players know this and never get close enough to let you do that.
They have a bigass long range gun and relatively low speed.
Of course they won't approach.
dark fiber
quick q, what's the range on the welrod's 1 shot headshot?
quiet sedge
That's why you need teamwork, use cover to get as close as possible and attack on all sides, they cant shoot 360 degrees at once
dark fiber
cool, tiger's sat out of range, and has like 3 snipers looking generally in it's direction as is pretty standard
solid hinge
hey
dark fiber
it can outrange whatever infantry weapon you're gonna hurl at it
west cedar
You know I played bfv for the first time since beta and I have to say it’s much more fun and less buggy and I might consider buying it
crystal blaze
i shot at someone and got a disabled engine bonus
quiet sedge
also suicide jeep them from behind
west cedar
I like some of the new mechanics in the game but I would definitely like another modern title. And hopefully they don’t do the pickup classes like in bf1. I would be so annoyed if a juggernaut was walking around
quiet sedge
God I miss chucking my c4 on the front of a bike in bf4 and just driving at the nearest enemy tank
west cedar
Yeah
I’m actually curious how a lot of the new mechanics would work in a modern setting game
I would honestly be ok with a sequel to bf3 or 4
In fact I would like it
It gives enough creative opportunities for the devs and would be good gameplay wise
But like how would that be named. “Battlefield 3 2”
Or battlefield 3 again
eager shore
Probably just simply Battlefield 6 or something.
west cedar
Bf4 it all depended on the map
Which it should
lol is it bad that I just bought bf4 premium yesterday
eager shore
I defintely would love a modern setting using Battlefield V's gunplay. And an expansion on fortifications, with refined attrition.
eager shore
lol is it bad that I just bought bf4 premium yesterday
Depends if the servers you can access play on the DLC maps.
west cedar
It should just be assult in my opinion
The server My friends play on does mainly dlc maps so I get randomly booted whenever maps switch
eager shore
Battlefield 4's class system would in turn make the gadget balance better as well.
west cedar
So I got it to play with them
Yeah. I’m also all for the idea of construction again
I did like the construction in bf1
How you were able to build cover and blockades
eager shore
There's only so much gadgets you can give a class dedicated to healing. But if you combine it with anti-infantry weapons, the gadget choices expand.
quiet sedge
Bf4s spawn system was way better, didnt take so long to spawn once you hit the spawn on player button that the squad mate you were spawning on gets into combat and it boots you back to the menu
Bf4 was like nah this guys in combat you gotta wait
west cedar
I think it would give the engineer role more purpose. I mean destroying vechicles is useful but on a infantry heavy map your just playing engineer for the guns
eager shore
I did like the construction in bf1
How you were able to build cover and blockades
You can't do that in Battlefield 1. You can only build cover and blockades in Battlefield V.
quiet sedge
Bfvs like this guys not in combat but we gonna take so long to spawn you that he is gonna be in combat and you gonna have to wait
west cedar
Bro I swear I built something in bf1 once
quiet sedge
Nope it was new to bfv
west cedar
I’m thinking of another game but I forgot which game
quiet sedge
Minecraft?
solid hinge
I've literally done everything,
re-installed, changed every sound option around, used everything in compatibility
My sound still does not work at all in BF4 I downloaded, making it unplayable
solid hinge
It doesn't appear
quiet sedge
Google it
solid hinge
Like I DL the game, and no sound anywhere in BF
eager shore
Bf4s spawn system was way better, didnt take so long to spawn once you hit the spawn on player button that the squad mate you were spawning on gets into combat and it boots you back to the menu
As long as it doesn't spawn players in the middle of combat. Because it sure isn't fun to have to deal with enemies spawing in the instant you finished killing one.
inner junco
maybe you've muted ur sound lmao
west cedar
Battlefield 4 had the problem of spawning in on teammates right before they get into combat and then once you’ve actually spawned you get killed by a smaw
quiet sedge
The tank spawn in bfv was trash too, you couldnt edit your tank or plane in a match without one becoming available and when your done editing its gone
west cedar
Also my friends own a private server so I can unlock the dlc guns easily. Since it’s hard to find certain game modes it’s nice to own a server that you can just set to that game mode
quiet sedge
Bf4 has a small window of spawn protection where you cant be killed after you spawn, use it to get to cover so you wont be killed
wet fossil
I'm not able to get a single fucking good match today
west cedar
One cool idea that might be in bfv idk is customization. Like different types of vests and pants/shirts and glasses or things like that
eager shore
I'm not able to get a single fucking good match today
Hate it when that happens, heh. There was a whole month where I'd get literally nothing but bad matches.
west cedar
Nothing wildly unrealistic but just some more customization on what you can do with your character
frozen umbra
It'll be fun to have a cold war era game
west cedar
Kinda hated the very plane characters in bf4
frozen umbra
Not vietnam war, just the 1960s in europe for example
It'd be fun to see FAL's, G3's, AKM's on the battlefield, with some armored vehicles and stuff
eager shore
One cool idea that might be in bfv idk is customization. Like different types of vests and pants/shirts and glasses or things like that
Honestly I think that would be way too much work for something most players won't really care about, especially in a first person shooter. I'd put more focus on gloves, arm accessories (watches), and voice types since they are stuff that players actually see or hear while playing.
west cedar
Not even full deep customization. I would even take skins like in call of duty
I would want fairly realistic skins of course but being able to have like a navy seal or infantry marine out would be cool
quiet sedge
Arm accessories imo are stupid since you barely see your hands
wet fossil
They need to class lock them.
west cedar
Class lock what
wet fossil
I hate not being able to identify the enemy
Longcoat, soft cap, should a sniper, aaand SMG to the face.
quiet sedge
^
west cedar
Oh yeah. You shouldn’t be running around in a ghille suit with a shotgun
coarse thunder
I sort of agree with that, but mainly for the really obvious stuff i.e. the sanitater skin should only be for medics
eager shore
They need to class lock them.
Yeah. At the bare minimum just having each class have something on their backs would be great. Like medical bags for Assault/Medic, launchers for Engineers, ammo packs for Support, and nothing for Recon/Scout.
brave coral
i mean a bit of equipment on the character’s back (ideally adaptive, so assault has whichever launcher, medic has some medical gear, etc) would be cool
but i don’t really think class locking cosmetics is a great idea in a system like bfv
also you saying ‘should be a recon’ doesn’t make it so
eager shore
Yeah. Like the cosmetics can be for every class. The art team would just have to make sure the backside of the cosmetic is clear so the class accessories can be placed.
brave coral
since you’ve established there isn’t class cosmetics, so why complain when you try to rely on it?
quiet sedge
I mean it would be nice to be able to tell what your coming up against based on the character your fighting like in everything up to BF1 where each class had a distinct look
brave coral
then you adapt rather than complain when you fail to do so and it gets you killed
west cedar
Or just bf4 but with more skins for each class
brave coral
i just try to prioritise whichever enemy is most likely to shoot me as opposed to the class
wet fossil
And how do you think I figure out who's most likely to shoot me?
By classes and effective ranges.
brave coral
like i see a recon who is looking at me as a higher threat than a medic who is looking at a wall
eager shore
I think being able to identify what class you're fighting is important. But I think it can still be done even with a certain amount of freedom with customizations.
Star Wars Battlefront II manages to do this fairly well.
brave coral
class barely comes into that, it’s just player behaviour
west cedar
I would be fine with just different skins for each class. Like a marine raider skin or a navy seal skin
brave coral
i think if you’re going to have full outfits where you just choose it and that’s it, nothing else, then it works
west cedar
The same skins for each class. So engineer assult support and recon will all have a navy seal skin and marine raider skin. But just so your character can look different
brave coral
but locking cosmetics to classes in a bfv type system not so much
eager shore
class barely comes into that, it’s just player behaviour
Class does. For instance if there's a Medic and a Support next to each other, I'm going to prioritize the Medic so he doesn't revive his buddies.
quiet sedge
A scout player is going to be far less effective, weapon wise, in close quarters than a medic with an smg
west cedar
Like the camo system in bf4 except it Changes some more cosmetic things like the vest and helmet and things like that
brave coral
having a bit of ‘back bling’ as fortnite fairly appropriately calls it would be fine imo
wet fossil
I know BF4 classes are all distinct, but damned if I still can't tell them apart.
I just shoot at the guys without blue.
Stupid modern tactical shit
eager shore
Hopefully the next Battlefield game can come up with a good balance. I really love being able to customize my characters, but I also like being able to identify classes as well.
brave coral
realistically back bling should do the job fine
at the range where you might actually need to know what class someone is, ie close combat, you’ll either be able to see the back bling or the weapon clearly enough to identify them
past that it doesn’t really matter other than snipers being a bigger threat and then you normally have the whole ‘scope glint and not firing an automatic weapon at you’ thing which is fairly telling
novel blaze
Black medic
angry neckbeard engineer
😎 support
ninja recon
quiet sedge
Back bling works better in a 3rd person game
brave coral
uhh
novel blaze
what is a back bling
brave coral
not in this context lol
@novel blaze i was just using it to mean equipment on your back
novel blaze
like riot shields?
brave coral
sort of
west cedar
I think this community has gotten to used to stupid unrealistic things. If you are a sniper you shouldn’t be walking around in the same clothes a engineer can. We should just go back to the system of each class has a specific look and it’s easy to identify. You can even have customization with class specific skins
brave coral
more for identification of enemy soldiers rather than actual gameplay things
eager shore
Like medical bags for Assault/Medic, launchers for Engineers, ammo packs for Support, and nothing for Recon/Scout.
Quoting what I wrote above.
novel blaze
yeah i miss when they looked different
just hated the fact thar i was surrounded by 10 bf3 us support
no mask
brave coral
i think a lot of people would prefer having freedom of customisation but you have something universal for each class that makes it more distinct
so for assault you can have whatever outfit, but you have whichever anti vehicle launcher you are running mounted on your back (eg a bazooka)
medic has crutches or a medical bag or whatever
novel blaze
i want to play bf3 and black ops zombies soo bad
west cedar
Before bfv there was no completely changing the way you look. You got a set skin for your class and you could maybe customize it a little. And that was when battlefield was at its peak. A part of why a lot of people stopped playing this franchise was stupid cosmetics. Multiple people didn’t buy bfv simply because of how unrealistic and stupid the cosmetics were. If battlefield wants to be relevant again they need to do what they had before
brave coral
you’ve just put two points and gone “i’ve connected them”
you thinking whichever battlefield game is better has no relation to the fact that bfv has less distinct class appearances
west cedar
I’m not saying that’s the only difference in the games. But cosmetics is what made a decent amount of people not want the game before it even came out
brave coral
again, not really
aside from a good amount of people basically being offended by the woman in the trailer, it was more so because the cosmetics were a bit out there for a ww2 game
the presence of customisation was actually fairly welcomed i think
west cedar
Yes. But the cosmetics as you said were way out there and unrealistic. Which many people had a problem with. That’s literally what I just said
brave coral
and if the cosmetics had been more like they are now and in the past few months than they were at launch/in the trailer, people wouldn’t have had an issue with it other than blind ‘MTX bad’ arguments
west cedar
I’m not saying customization is bad. I’m saying stupid customization is bad
brave coral
no, you’ve been saying that customisation is bad
quiet sedge
Ngl dont really get the point of cosmetics, like an army unit isnt gonna be running round one battle in 50 different uniforms
novel blaze
i hate cosmetics
west cedar
I never said customization is bad. In fact I’m the one who brought up wanting more customization. But you are saying you want stupid unrealistic and confusing customization and in order to fix it give them a special class specific backpack
quiet sedge
The most successful example of cosmetics is fortnite which is a kids game
west cedar
How about make your cosmetics and customization realistic and then you won’t need to have special backpacks
brave coral
i’m saying that class locking cosmetics in any sort of system like bfv’s way of doing it isn’t going to work well
also where the fuck did i say i wanted stupid cosmetics? i said the recent ones are much better, both now and at various points just talking in this chat
quiet sedge
I can understand cosmetics like a beret or softcap but drastic look changing cosmetics are crappy imi
Imo
brave coral
@quiet sedge then this isn’t really the discussion for you is it
west cedar
You want to have the snipers and assaults wearing the same clothing. Which is stupid. Therefore stupid cosmetics. And yes class locking cosmetics needs to happen. A sniper and assult should not be wearing the same clothing when they have 2 completely different roles in combat. They need different equipment so they aren’t going to be wearing the same things
quiet sedge
If cosmetics break immersion then they shouldnt be in the game
brave coral
i mean the equipment thing is basically the entire point of the back bling
west cedar
Which again is a system you want added in order to make up for the problem they created. No need to add another cosmetic item when they can just go back to a system that already works well
shy badger
Oh we're talking about class distinction?
brave coral
locking cosmetics is just taking away options which we’ve had for this game and have actually on the whole been welcomed and there is a reasonable community built around making interesting and good looking outfits
quiet sedge
Back bling is useless when you engage 90% of enemies from the front
brave coral
@quiet sedge and in that case you can see their gun or at the very least the way they’re holding it
which is different for various weapon classes
quiet sedge
Unless they're shooting or it's big you cant tell the class
west cedar
You can still have customization nobody is saying no customization but when the customization impedes gameplay the answer isn’t add a backpack it’s to make the customization not affect gameplay
eager shore
The difference in animation and stances is a small detail that people forget helps distinguish classes.
quiet sedge
And their shots are often indistinguishable from others
brave coral
if i’m close enough to need to know if he’s got a shotgun or an smg then i can see it fine
the customisation affecting gameplay is also an issue you’ve essentially created
but blame dice
wet fossil
BF1 was very specifically designed visually in order to avoid this shit.
west cedar
How have I created the issue of not knowing what I’m fighting
prime pine
Everyone's a threat anyways
wet fossil
Each class, no matter the faction, were designed using the same styling.
prime pine
So you just shoot
wet fossil
Assaults got scarves and grenades
Medics got crutches
Supports got silly helmet attachments
wet fossil
And recons got capes
prime pine
Because I don't care
brave coral
like i just treat everyone as if they’ve got the most effective weapon for the engagement range and it generally works fine
oh, maybe i shot the recon instead of the medic and that got me killed. but realistically you don’t think quick enough to target one guy first based on visuals, you walk into a room with two guys and you’ll shoot the one closer to you
prime pine
Recons usually stay back anyways
shy badger
What if you're a tanker?
brave coral
maybe you’re quick enough to see that one guy is looking at you and you prioritise him first since thats a more immediate threat
prime pine
Tankers are barely of a threat
shy badger
And want to kill the most dangerous enemies first
brave coral
then the guy rushing you is probably an assault and the guy running away is a medic
shy badger
Nah its never this simple dr
west cedar
Yeah but he’s a example. Your sniping and you see 2 enemy’s near a tank. 1 is a assult and 1 is a medic. Now you can’t tell what gun there holding because you don’t have a high zoom scope. With normal cosmetics you would know who is who. With being able to dress however you want they look the same. You kill one and it turned out to be the medic and then the engineer blows up the tank which results in you losing the game. Now if you could see who is who you would be able to kill the person that poses the more immediate threat to the tank
shy badger
They all run like scardy cats when you catch them off guard
brave coral
then you kill them all
shy badger
Then pop out of cover and shoot rockets
brave coral
@west cedar that is such a stretch of an argument
prime pine
People are usually firing the rockets at you the instant they see you
wet fossil
Just admit that you want to look stupid as fuck
west cedar
It’s not a stretch to give a example
prime pine
Assaults will start firing at your tank instantly so you already know who is who
shy badger
Not all
wet fossil
This is a game about thinking, or it should be.
shy badger
And why should I wait for them to pop their rockeys?
wet fossil
You're advocating for blind run-and-gun tactics.
brave coral
just admit that you can’t adapt to a different system and use other cues such as stance and positioning to identify the generally tiny variation in threat level
shy badger
It'd be a nice additiom to know
prime pine
Not saying you should cause you should be shooting them already
shy badger
I know thats not what you're saying but my point is
This kind of info comrs really useful as a tanker
prime pine
At least have the launchers at the back yeah
wet fossil
Yeah like is that guy coming close carrying dynamite or just trying to get below your gun?
prime pine
The most info we have as a pilot is through spottimg so we know what class is there
idle breach
honestly
wet fossil
Is he suddenly going to pull a lunge mine out of his arse?
prime pine
You don't have to wait if you look at the weapon they're running with
brave coral
i mean if someone is rushing my tank i’m going to assume he’s got an explosive and try to get him out of the picture
idle breach
i totally agree with tano, this game(or like, any game big enough) is about thinking, not about just having a fast hand. or it should be
brave coral
this isn’t a muslim though
idle breach
and we even have dedicated gamemode for people who doesn't like it - it's called grind / underground map
west cedar
Lmao you wanna say just admit ok. Just admire you want to dress like a idiot and you’ll do anything to do it. And to answer your question I can use the other factors but there’s no reason to when you can actually tell the difference. Like you have been able to in other battlefield games which have been more successful
idle breach
i just came here what are you talking about
shy badger
He can dress however he wants but it'd be nice to have some kind of a unique item
brave coral
most guns have similar kill potentials, realistically the difference between an assault and a support is not that much
wet fossil
Maybe it's not a milsim, but it's a game where being dumb gets you dead.
shy badger
To diffrentiate between classes
idle breach
oh cosmetics
quiet sedge
If you're against a sniper the ideal thing is to move fast and close the distance to limit their range, if they're a medic or a support standing up, you wanna keep your distance etc
idle breach
class-specific cosmetics?
wet fossil
BFV's entire development seemed to be centred around removing useful information.
prime pine
Lmgs are more snipey AR's
brave coral
@shy badger like equipment on your back?
wet fossil
No spotting, no class identification
west cedar
Yeah which is what I want. He’s saying no class specific cosmetic and wants a backpack
idle breach
don't really think it would help much
shy badger
Yea basically
brave coral
ah. this is what i was saying from the start lol
idle breach
engagements are far quicker than like, bf1
wet fossil
BF1 had it much better.
shy badger
Oh okay, I thought you guys were againsy class distinction all together for some reason
wet fossil
Not slow, but not pseudo-titanfall.
idle breach
and like if you acknowledge some infantry an assault or medic or whatever
most likely it would be after the first initial game of peekaboo
west cedar
No. I’m the one that brought up wanting class customization I just don’t want class customization that hinders gameplay
brave coral
no, i’m for class distinction but also maintaining the cosmetic freedom that bfv has with various communities built around it
wet fossil
What communities?
shy badger
Thats fine by me
idle breach
i just want bunny ears?
quiet sedge
@wet fossil drag communities
shy badger
As long as I can tell whos an assault
prime pine
Wookie support!
wet fossil
I see guys wanting accurate uniforms and the occasional pillock who brings Misaki to France.
brave coral
bfcosmetics and just people wanting to have good looking soldiers
idle breach
is that sub now clean with wehrboos
wet fossil
That fucking armband on the new officer outfit is a bit much
west cedar
Nobody is saying no customization or no making your character look cool. I’m just saying there’s no reason for a support and assault to look the exact same. And a backpack is a lame excuse at fixing the problem
quiet sedge
m
idle breach
that sub was like put some random german things with some black bits and saying "here's my kewl SS soldier" and getting some sick upvotes
brave coral
the thing is, saying it hinders gameplay is all well and good but it ignores the fact that bfv is a fast game where you don’t really have time to go ‘hmm. well that guy has a little bit of extra metal on his helmet, so he’s got a machine gun, so i’ll shoot him first’
you shoot the guy looking at you then you shoot his mate looking out the window
wet fossil
And what if they're all looking at me
prime pine
A support with an fg42 is as threatening as an assault with an stg 1-5
brave coral
else the guy looking at you is going to do what you’re doing to his mate
wet fossil
You know. Because it's a battle.
brave coral
then you’re dead anyway and you shoot whoever you can
idle breach
if you saw somebody and acknowledge their class, let's say if you're in a tank
prime pine
Shotgun!
quiet sedge
That sounds like your not a good enough player to take out a squad
brave coral
if you walk into a room with more than 2 people looking at the door, i’m sorry but unless you’ve got a shotgun and are very good you’re dead
idle breach
that opponent is already shot a bazooka and preparing next shot or just running away or lunge mine charging or whatever. would it really be helpful
wet fossil
Seriously there is no way to tell classes apart because you can't spot the fuckers these days
prime pine
You have a very small chance to take out a squad all by your self when they can see you
solid hinge
if there's a house with 3 LMG campers you will intantly die
prime pine
I screamed when I was being assaulted by squads with a sjogern
Somehow I lived until the third or fourth wave
On 30 health
brave coral
nice
prime pine
But if I had an fg42
I would have had an even higher chance of dying
Cause the were rushing me with shotguns
You dont care what class they are cause they all can still kill efficiently
quiet sedge
I can clear a house with multiple people looking at the door with an m1 garand it's not difficult, it would be easier if I could prioritise which to shoot first based on their classes
brave coral
r/iamverybadass
prime pine
The three classes medic assault and support are very threatening
Theres no differential
brave coral
you maybe kill two people if you’re extremely lucky in that scenario
idle breach
no that's not r/iamverybadass
quiet sedge
If you dont believe me I have a bfv vid from the new maps going up in 2 days
idle breach
that's more like r/imetagroupofidiots
shy badger
I can clear a house with multiple people looking at the door with an m1 garand it's not difficult, it would be easier if I could prioritise which to shoot first based on their classes
Okay john wick
brave coral
either works @idle breach
idle breach
lmao
prime pine
I've taken out people on b on underground with the nerfed garand multiple times but am I gonna gloat? Can't be fucked
brave coral
i’m going off more the tendency to exaggerate in posts on iamverybadass
brave coral
if you can get behind the pile of crates then you can get a bunch of kills on B because people don’t pay attention to their sides lol
idle breach
people gets multikill of course, but with garand, after 2 people it's just pure luck
forest sparrow
What is the minimum amount of players needed for a community game?
languid sinew
he got a 1.72 kd so I doubt he aims for the heads
idle breach
admin decides
prime pine
4
idle breach
4~12? i remember
forest sparrow
Cool thanks!
brave coral
but in a straight engagement where you burst through the door and go ‘ah fuck there’s three guys pointing automatics at me’ you’re probably not even getting one kill if they’re semi competent and you’ve only got a garand
prime pine
Ree
brave coral
yeah minimum you can set for a CG is 4
prime pine
Tired
idle breach
shouldn't engaing like 1v3 at first place anyway
brave coral
i think they fixed it as well so it actually is 4 because i know it was bugged for a bit and the setting didn’t save
idle breach
*engage
brave coral
yeah
prime pine
The odds are heavily against you
idle breach
you should constantly gang the fuck up enemies, not doing some sick one man army
brave coral
if you’re good you can engage three people in quick succession but walking into a room you’ve basically got c3po odds
prime pine
Sometimes you have to oma it all
prime pine
I've had to attack solo and get my squad to spawn on me
idle breach
i can't do this
idle breach
asian servers even got plane-cheaters
have you seen bf109 shooting rockets full-auto
prime pine
You can hold the trigger for rapid fire
prime pine
Shoshoom
brave coral
tfw you basically one man army and clear A on the second sector of underground with a stock welgun then one guy comes in, kills you, and recaps it because your brain dead team didn’t push at all
idle breach
and flakpanzer shooting constant stream of flamming round entire round
idle breach
no overheat, no ammo count
brave coral
idle breach
fucking flying calliope
brave coral
i got like 12 kills in less than a minute and got the flag like half neutralised then all that got undone and we got stuck at that sector for like 400 tickets
idle breach
fly? there's a cheater shooting 10 rockets per second everywhere nonstop and JU-88A gunner with aimbot
aaaaaaaa
rustic shoal
guys
the welgun needs a nerf
is dice gonna go in and fix it?
its way too overpowered
eager shore
Basically. It will help you survive better as you figure out how to play the game.
Just remember to revive your buddies!
prime pine
Yeah
acoustic harbor
Thank you!
prime pine
No worries, we can give you an idea on what weapons to use
eager shore
And heal your buddies too. When your reticle is on a friendly, health packs home in on them.
eager shore
Exactly, heh.
brave coral
and it’s relatively easy to use
prime pine
Popularity = overpowered xp
brave coral
it’s a fairly fun gun, as are more of the smgs, but it’s far from being too good
it’s not even that amazing of an smg
but as with the johnson, being a lower tier smg or sar doesn’t mean all that much because it’s still a strong gun
prime pine
Certainly more niche
brave coral
i didn’t expect to enjoy the M3 IR as much as i have been the past couple days
tbh
it’s fun
astral ermine
huh so dice decided to counter smoke
eager shore
Does it help you see the prone snipers and MMGs better? 😛
languid sinew
you can not look through smoke with the new sniper rifle I dont know the name
if you mean that
shy badger
The more I use the welgun
The more it feels meh
Its just a solid all rounder smg
But doesn't excell anywhere
solid hinge
and emp already has like.. not much vrec
dense bone
welgun trades rof for less control compared to zk
though in general most guns are easy to control at least to medium range (other than 2a)
solid hinge
Welgun seems strong
EMP recoil is 0.52 vertically, 0.155 left and -0.155 right
Welgun recoil is 0.3 vertically, 0.3 left and -0.4 right
haughty pawn
emp user 4 life here,welgun is clearly worse overall
solid hinge
Exact same spec trees, welgun has slightly better reload times
shy badger
Wow
haughty pawn
also it sucks on range compared to the emp imo
shy badger
The welgun has noticeably more hrec
solid hinge
nothing makes up for the massive accuracy decrease
shy badger
I seriously thought it had a lot less
dense bone
so basically welgun is the noob trap gun and emp is objectively better
haughty pawn
that's true
dense bone
well usually people jump onto high hrec/low vrec guns and claim they are op and easy to use
brave coral
it’s still nice to use lol
dense bone
even though theres definitely a better gun out there, in this case EMP
dense bone
the reload diffference is minimal
haughty pawn
if you want op,jump the 2a train 
brave coral
as is often the case, a gun may be worse statistically than some other choice but it still does the job and looks/feels nice
dense bone
oh yea, its still an 7/10 gun for its role, 7/10 isnt bad, but theres an 8/10 gun that is just better
brave coral
i like the visual design of it and it has nice sounds, and i do reasonably well with it, therefore i’m gonna use it
haughty pawn
and after all every gun that kills you is OP ! 
brave coral
lots of people using this new, relatively controllable/easy to use gun? i got killed by it? OP!
solid hinge
real OP gun is the m3
solid hinge
it's literally the same as the m1a1
haughty pawn
i only noticed 1 benefit of the welgun,it's really easy to use on lvl0 already
solid hinge
im so mad
dense bone
"i get killed by it a lot because 50% of people are using it" crazy...
solid hinge
they just gave a semi auto to recon
shy badger
I'm actually frustrated I can't use the k31
dense bone
the m3 is good, but fuck that sight
quiet sedge
Type 2a is fuckin op
haughty pawn
what's actually the sense of the new recon weapon?às i don't play recon that thing feels just weird and not useful at all ?
dense bone
so many people say 2a is op, then its not even close to their own best performing weapon
dense bone
@haughty pawn m3 is literally an m1a1, but with a stupid black and white sight
haughty pawn
lol
prime pine
Its an m1 with a non upgradable mag and a permanent scope
haughty pawn
ye that perma scope is weird
solid hinge
k31 is weird
shy badger
Its not weird
brave coral
i mean the whole point of it is that it has an IR scope
brave coral
would be a bit weird to be able to not have it and would probably make it objectively OP
M3 is somewhat balanced by the fact that it has a bulky scope with a grainy filter
prime pine
I'll try the k31 when it's not fucked
dense bone
@quiet sedge according to bf tracker you havent even tried the type 2a
brave coral
k31 i’m just leaving alone because it doesn’t work
prime pine
I do like its specs
quiet sedge
@dense bone but I get raped with it
onyx garden
can we get an italian sicily map?
prime pine
Its either mag or bayonet
prime pine
Well your new favourite sniper ayla
dense bone
@dense bone but I get raped with it
@quiet sedge that could mean a bunch of other things outside of it being op (which are honestly probably the situaton)
brave coral
when it works i’ll probably use it a fair bit but when it’s misaligned... nah
dense bone
2a shreds under 25m, outside of that its shit
brave coral
type 2a isn’t even OP lol
idle breach
it's reddit op
dense bone
even within that range it gets killed by shotgunners faster
brave coral
‘i got killed by it’ is the classic argument for screaming ‘it’s OP’
dense bone
if youre losing to 2a you are using a weapon not made for that range and they are, or you outright suck
idle breach
it's called community overpowered.
brave coral
it’s essentially a shotgun that fires the pellets individually lol
prime pine
Its just a suomi with a higher room for error
prime pine
I worded it badly
dense bone
at least at lvl 4
prime pine
I meant a lower
brave coral
honestly though it does still feel cheese to use it with standard RoF and extended mags
prime pine
Im not familiar using higher or lower room for error
winter edge
brave coral
1200rpm or bust
prime pine
Ues
solid hinge
It will never replace my krag..
prime pine
1200 rpm
solid hinge
It also doesnt get custom stock, so its poopoo
prime pine
Ayla if you see a wookie with an fg42 assume its me
brave coral
imagine being too cowardly to use the 1.5s magdump gun smh my head 💯💯💯
solid hinge
Oh god
dense bone
id only use 1200rpm in smaller game modes
prime pine
Hehehehehe
brave coral
@prime pine but... class identification... 
dense bone
id rather kill in 1.75 seconds and have 3/4 of my mag left
hoary condor
m
prime pine
Owoowowowowow
brave coral
i hope we get some of those smexy new outfits tomorrow
give beret birthday present pls dice
brave coral
tomorrow
prime pine
EARLY HAPPY BIRTHDAY
brave coral
thanks
prime pine
No worries... yeah that red beret looks perfect for assault
brave coral
i was just explaining m to someone
and like... has anyone figured out how to actually use the rmn50 yet
prime pine
Kek
brave coral
i don’t think i’ve even got any damage with it
prime pine
Boom
brave coral
i probably just need to go to the practice range or something and test it on flat ground
prime pine
Hmm
brave coral
it just feels weird not having a spawn beacon but also not knowing how to use this launcher properly
brave coral
because i assumed it would be like the assault frag launcher but you can hold it to airburst at a given range but it has way more drop
prime pine
It looks to be the same
brave coral
huh
prime pine
Drop
brave coral
again, i haven’t really used it
prime pine
Yeah
brave coral
i’ve mostly just been using M3 + flares + spawn beacon if i’m playing recon
prime pine
Ghillie suit gonna make it easier to camo
dense bone
i did good with m3, i just hate that scope..
prime pine
I wish we could just have a regular 3 x
Cause
The suppressor is good enough of a reason
Plus recon perls
dense bone
i would love it too, if not for that scope
idle breach
lmao
lucky I'm trained for this specific gun by bigmag madsen and only using 2x zoom level in bf1
dense bone
like, its to the point to where i really dont think i will use it even if it is the best recon gun
idle breach
fun way to balance it i think
dense bone
i might use it in small game modes
hmmmm, that could be my SC scrim weapon when im on recon
eager shore
and like... has anyone figured out how to actually use the rmn50 yet
Noep lel. Even if you shoot the thing straight up with the longest fuse, it still explodes midair.
dense bone
doesnt holding it shorten the explosion time?
dense bone
unit makes it sound like it explodes midair no matter what
prime pine
5 sec timer
dense bone
unless you are trying to lob it stupid far theres a fixed distance to it
prime pine
50m
eager shore
If you try to use it like the PIAT by shooting straight up, it will explode midair.
prime pine
Min 10 15 m
dense bone
well its not supposed to be shot straight up
eager shore
Yeah, it's advertised as a mortar. But you can't use it like one.
brave coral
ehh
sorta, it’s advertised as ‘closer to a hand mortar than a typical grenade launcher’ or something along those lines
but it’s still more supposed to be used at a <45 degree angle to the ground
eager shore
Yeah. I read "mortar" so I immediately thought "shoot up!" 😛
brave coral
i think part of what’s throwing me off is that you charge to decrease the range
whereas i’m used to stuff in a couple of games where you have a launcher that you hold fire to increase the power of the projectile’s launch
so you just tap fire and it’s like that video of the dud mortar where it barely escapes the tube
dense bone
well its like cooking
brave coral
whereas if you just tap fire with the rmn it goes the furthest it can
dense bone
imagine the moment you press a button for a frag grenade is the what youre doing with this weapon
brave coral
yeah
dense bone
i think what throws it off is seeing a distance HUD go down
icy sluice
The description says "More mortar than grenade launcher"
idle breach
what's that supposed to mean
torpid monolith
Ala
idle breach
ala!
torpid monolith
Jajajaja
icy sluice
idk
shut maple
Are the new uniforms arriving today?
icy sluice
I don't think an announcement of that was made or it was told.
shut maple
Cause I heard they're coming with the armory reset
prime pine
We dunno
icy sluice
Well that's rare
stoic breach
dense bone
that ping though
fossil heron
That's my average too
idle breach
i get 30~60 ping on japan / around 100 on singapore
brave coral
ngl i didn’t even know there was a singapore matchmaking region
not that i’ve looked into it exactly since i like in the uk so i just use german servers
fossil heron
Joyman severs
hearty moss
play squad conquest with randoms they said
it will be fun they said
al majr is very good on the other side
brave coral
pretty good
i’ll be honest i’m still yet to get a decent server where it’s not too one sided
i’ve only had one game go past the first sector bc either my team has been really strong or really shit
shut maple
Should I try the new support gun?
brave coral
yeah definitely
fossil heron
Freeman said end of the month there might be a team balancer
icy sluice
Which one? There's two :p
fossil heron
They're both good tho
shut maple
Cause some say its OP
And others say its ass
brave coral
i mean idk why you’re asking, you already own it so like. use it for a match or two and see how you feel
icy sluice
I'd prefer if the team balancer was only available in Community Games
fossil heron
@shut maple thats how you know its balanced
dense torrent
How do the GE vs US maps feel with the american marines looking all tropical and stuff?
shut maple
I would want the game to spawn you on the team with less members
icy sluice
Most people actually dress more like Paratroopers now, it's neat.
There are still a lot of people that dress Tropical tho
shut maple
Yeah
fossil heron
I still got my shorts on my support class
brave coral
most of the us cosmetics aren’t too tropical
shut maple
I'm with a regiment
dense torrent
Did they bring the paratrooper sets for the US faction?
dense torrent
I didn't play the game back then, when they were available.
icy sluice
Three US uniforms came with Chapter 4
shut maple
I really hope they add the panzergrenadeer
icy sluice
GI, Yankee and Wild Eagle, Wild Eagle being paid
dense torrent
What a shame, those look really cool.
icy sluice
They'll probably add Flim Flam and Pit Crew into the Armory for 
tho
I do love Flim Flam tho
shut maple
It feels strong
fossil heron
Do the coconut head Japanese
shut maple
Cause ITE slower rof
icy sluice
the what
fossil heron
The bushwookie helmet
fossil heron
Showshow
icy sluice
Chauchat
brave coral
flim flam is a good set
fossil heron
Gun so nice they named it twice
brave coral
lemme see if i have the photo
shut maple
Johnson is OP
brave coral
dense torrent
Wait, you can upload images here?
brave coral
only with regular role
tropic mango
hey im new to battle field
brave coral
hey
tropic mango
hey
shut maple
Howdy
dense torrent
Mmm well try to enjoy it as much as you can but the multiplayer is where Battlefield truly shines.
tropic mango
oh ok
shut maple
Only one that was good in my opinion
dense torrent
Yeah
fossil heron
Singleplayer is a good tutorial tho
shut maple
icy sluice
Single Player and Combined Arms help get a feel for how guns feel in the game
shut maple
Comviner arms is weird
Multiplayer things transfer to it
So you can dk assignments easy
quiet sedge
The only good thing about single player imo was that intro where you switch to a different soldier when you die
I wish we could get a whole campaign of that
icy sluice
I know Ravenfield has a whole mode based around that
brave coral
last tiger was pretty good
under no flag had decent characters at least
but the gameplay of two of the three launch levels was very one man army
nordlys wanted a bit more stealth
raw orbit
nooooo not more stealth
idle breach
people would like stealth
raw orbit
stealth is already like 3/4 of the battlefield campaigns now i dont want mooore
brave coral
but it would be nice to at least have the impression of fighting alongside people
raw orbit
brave coral
i don’t want stealth but i don’t want to be a random super soldier either
raw orbit
or maybe people just hate stealth cause its half fucking baked and its supposed to be battlefield m8
brave coral
like put me in an actual squad that i’m not the leader of lol
idle breach
aaa how can i grind cc
no cc assignment and i bought 75000cc bundle last week or something
i fucked myself up
brave coral
the original modern warfare had better campaign design than bfv lol
raw orbit
how about a campaign that spends more than an hour on each character and isnt 90% half-baked stealth :) all i want
brave coral
the stealth bits are actually interesting stealth not ‘follow this exact path else the tank 360 noscopes you lol’
yeah war stories can leave tbh
icy sluice
I like that the stealth sections were pretty open
Had a lot of freedom with Nordly's and stealth
brave coral
give me a campaign where you mostly play as one character in different levels any day
having war stories also means you can’t have interesting unique levels like being in an ac130 or all ghillied up
icy sluice
If anything give me an actual co-op storyline :v
brave coral
or i guess you can be with the bfv structure it doesn’t really fit
raw orbit
tbh just delete singleplayer cause dice is only gonna be wasting their time 
we still dont have the singleplayer compass in mp lol
brave coral
yeah it may well be the best way to go lol
icy sluice
There is a compass in MP, just no one ever uses it
brave coral
@icy sluice i think cappy meant the one at the top of the screen
uneven hollow
Stealth in combine arms
brave coral
i think it’s in firestorm as well
raw orbit
the compass we have now really serves no purpose except i guess to give people directions if youre on VC lol
brave coral
combined arms stealth just doesn’t work lol
you shoot someone in the head with a commando carbine and they don’t die bc weapon damage is fucked in CA for whatever reason
brave coral
and then they see you and bc it’s just hivemind i guess everyone locks on to you
sonic rampart
And keep running lol
raw orbit
lol didnt you know youre supposed to steal their weapons cause your own ones dont do enough damage
sonic rampart
Unless you’re playing on hardcore
brave coral
yeah you can just walk around gunning people down with an mg42 like terminator
brave coral
not a massive fan of the way they basically just say ‘yeah we know our AI sucks lol’ in the difficulty description
hardcore description is like ‘careful, the enemy soldiers are aimbot hackers and will empty a full mag into your head at any range’
uneven hollow
Not even an AT rifle can kill them in the head
brave coral
at least the campaign has decent weapon damage mechanics and you can’t tank quite as much damage
icy sluice
Quick Pro-Tip, the spawn screen will be orientated in cardinal directions (Meaning Up is North, Down is South, etc.)
brave coral
tbf we don’t need a silenced bolt action
idle breach
what the point of silenced gun in real life
brave coral
various things
brave coral
suppressors can reduce muzzle flash and sound
that’s the main appeal, making yourself less obvious
idle breach
but
icy sluice
Silencers in-game get rid of the damage indicators, making the M3 Infrared even more powerful
idle breach
but warfare
brave coral
i think there’s now only two guns in the campaign that we don’t have in multiplayer
idle breach
is pretty noisy
brave coral
suppressed kar98 and suppressed sten
icy sluice
M1911 Silenced, Welrod and PPKS are pretty powerful because of the removal of damage indicators
brave coral
and i don’t see us getting either of those
there are some interesting quirks to a couple of things in the war stories though
like the double drum mg34 has 80 bullets instead of 75
brave coral
there’s a lee enfield with a bipod equipped
icy sluice
I still laugh at CoD WWII having the Grease Gun's INTEGRAL suppressor being removable
brave coral
several gun skins that we haven’t seen for the specific guns in multiplayer
fossil heron
The American side on provence conquest is spawnrapable
feral grotto
both sides are
brave coral
i think it’s integral in that it’s basically a replacement barrel
cod wwii had an animation where you unscrew it from the barrel which is just... not how it works
you can remove it from the gun but it’s not something you’d do in combat
feral grotto
well.. cs did that with the m4
brave coral
i don’t think you’d ever really remove a suppressor in combat generally
or not as a tactical thing
feral grotto
you dont have a suppressor in combat..
suppressor are for small ops
and also then it depends
brave coral
depends on the type i think
brave coral
unrelated but i did see this video of some guys putting 600 rounds through an m249 with a suppressor and just absolutely destroying the suppressor
idle breach
is it even real
brave coral
it just disintegrates
brave coral
i mean a suppressed gun is still pretty loud @idle breach
feral grotto
600 rounds with m249 can destroy a normal barrel as well
brave coral
guns in general are loud, suppressors make them marginally less loud
feral grotto
the machinegunner usually carry 2 barrels to replace
brave coral
yeah the barrel was also glowing red hot lol
uneven hollow
Meaning we need loudeners for our weapons
idle breach
yeah
brave coral
movie and game ‘silencers’ are bs
idle breach
yeah
fossil heron
I think BF does it best tbh
brave coral
like the welrod is still one of the quietest guns ever developed i think and is still relatively loud
uneven hollow
As a standard car
brave coral
bf isn’t too bad with it since they’re normally fairly loud up close and it’s the report at distance that is reduced in terms of sound
brave coral
it’s in movies where they shoot a suppressed gun and it just. doesn’t make a noise
nimble sedge
yo where would I ask about some installation questions
uneven hollow
feral grotto
the suppressor in bf just remove the directional hit indicator
brave coral
or sorry a ‘silenced’ gun
in bfv yeah
older battlefields it didn’t show on the minimap when firing
uneven hollow
Loudeners should be an option to add tbh
idle breach
how does loudners work
uneven hollow
Well it makes more sounds
brave coral
@idle breach just a cone on the barrel i guess
uneven hollow
And you shine brighter on the mini map
idle breach
oh
idle breach
hmm
jade gust
Does anybody know what the class icons mean under the objectives, green class icons
idle breach
ur squaddies
idle breach
waiting to respawn
jade gust
Ooh
idle breach
all the other infantreis with their pumped up boots
icy sluice
My headcanon is that the assignment and flavor text is written by the guy interviewing Deme in Tiralleur
uneven hollow
I mean technically speaking
You can fit a suppressor on a tank right
Either give me the suppressed tank or give me a loudener tank
uneven hollow
solid hinge
Penis
uneven hollow
Indeed
solid hinge
uneven hollow
Add the penis suppressor to tanks
fossil heron
Get it?
tight rain
Its not the size that matters, its how you use it
fossil heron
Compensating
molten owl
🤡
fossil heron
uneven hollow
Penis suppressors for bf6 tanks when
quiet sedge
What is the game changer role
solid hinge
Creamy Starfish
molten owl
ok
solid hinge
Guys
Can you find the final stand dotags on maps where it says waiting for players
Or does it have to be a acutal match
Ping me
icy sluice
Final Stand dogtags can only be rewarded playing Final Stand
solid hinge
Yeah ik that
icy sluice
It has to be an actual match
solid hinge
Ok that I didn't know ty
placid mural
why does my battelfield starts from the start instead of the menu?
icy sluice
You mean from the Prologue?
minor jacinth
I'm this old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz0v-qixpOI
quiet sedge
Wrong server
icy sluice
No, that's sorta fine
subtle umbra
Anybody use the rsc 1917
tight rain
I believe it was
subtle umbra
I love that gun
tight rain
Never really seen it on hardcore despite that
fossil heron
Pistol only hardcore
subtle umbra
It’s a high skill gun that’s probably why
river linden
mare's leg only hardcore
subtle umbra
Pistol only hardcore
@fossil heron auto revolver has entered the chat
tight rain
It has a bit more wiggle room compared to the snipers though
river linden
ew
fossil heron
It does 2 damage
river linden
unreliability of the 1911
fossil heron
In hardcore
tight rain
Kolibri should have had a drum mag
fossil heron
Unreliable for you maybe
subtle umbra
You are better off throwing the gun at someone
river linden
all i'm sayin is they should add the dardick model 1500
subtle umbra
Maybe it hits them in the eye and you can run away
quiet sedge
I just got 15 kills by hitting that tall building in the middle of provence with a v1
icy sluice
It's funny filling the killfeed with the PPK and an AP-Mine :p
river linden
i still think defib kills are the best
tribal cairn
You want a meme kill?
river linden
or in the case of battlefield 1 just give em tetanus with that rusty syringe.
tribal cairn
Repair tool
river linden
eod bot