#battlefield-legacy-titles

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proud ore
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unlucky

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@solid hinge i purchased GTA V and i deleted it because its a free game now

stuck wigeon
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so much potential... and so sad results

echo turtle
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and a few ftp players stick around

solid hinge
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It's not free anymore

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@proud ore true, i ended up spawn trapped cause enemy had all the objectives and 4 pumas would just camp around our spawn

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shit map

proud ore
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muh open fields

echo turtle
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reread that

solid hinge
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open field maps are trash

stuck wigeon
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Just some bright shiny objects and red meat for the people playing the game still

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New vehicles and skins and reskinned maps

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SKINfield

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I give provence 6/10

solid hinge
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aerodrome, hamada, provence on conquest

orchid shore
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provence is actual good map

proud ore
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nah

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maybe in TDM

solid hinge
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on other game modes

orchid shore
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only problem is spawn camping issue

proud ore
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Only problem?

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LOL

prime pine
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Provence needs 3 tanks not 4

proud ore
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provence needs 2v2 tanks

solid hinge
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Provence needs more tractors

proud ore
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the game cannot handle 4v4 because of how poorly balanced vehicle gameplay is

stuck wigeon
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SHE THINKS MY TRACTORS SEXY

proud ore
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it ruins balance

prime pine
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I would honestly be up for planes

proud ore
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that would be hell

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imagine bombers spamming the town area

prime pine
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You can have 5 tanks but you can have a larger area

solid hinge
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Planes could work on provence tho

stuck wigeon
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I wish there was a planes/tanks only mode

quiet sedge
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I prefer the way in bf4 each team has a tank with the same stats, its bs that a panzerfaust and a lunge mine will kill a puma but not even put a staghound on half health

stuck wigeon
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would be so fun

prime pine
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Yeah fighter exclusive imagine the g6's and mustangs griefing the ground

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The g6 can drop butterfly bombs

deep forge
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the only thing Americans need is the m1 carbine and the m1a1 Thompson

prime pine
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The mustang can rocket

deep forge
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and the Springfield

stuck wigeon
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Or a war thunder mode with only planes

quiet sedge
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If you want planes and tanks only I think wsrthunder and world of tanks is the game for you

stuck wigeon
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I enjoy infantry too

deep forge
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No

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panzerstorm

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I give panzerstorm 11/10

proud ore
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panzerstorm is one of the worst maps ever made

deep forge
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on bt

stuck wigeon
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Panzerstorm is a goat rope for infantry

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There must be a panzerstorm gamemode

deep forge
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on breakthrough it’s good

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tf u mean

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I mean only panzerstorm

stuck wigeon
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IF only we had community servers be a thing

echo turtle
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how would they differentiate the m1a1 thompson

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😂

deep forge
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longer range

prime pine
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How can you make the Springfield uniqu3

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Unique

deep forge
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30 rounds

solid hinge
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Community servers are a thinf

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Thing

deep forge
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different sights

prime pine
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Or the american einfield

quiet sedge
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Panzerstorm is a 5/10 for me, the the middle flag and the Forrest middle flag are good fun but the others are trash

echo turtle
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why would i use that over the grease gun

stuck wigeon
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Just drop a random AR15 on the map for fun

deep forge
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cause it has better range

prime pine
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Why would I pick the m1a1 over the m1928

deep forge
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and it’s THE American Thompson

echo turtle
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the m1928 is american

deep forge
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British

prime pine
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Range doesn't mean shit for a submachine gun on a class where going hyper offensive is its absolute biggest strength

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No talk panzerstorm is 999/10

echo turtle
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no?

proud ore
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panzerstorm is one of the worst maps ever put into an FPS game

echo turtle
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yes the british used them

proud ore
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it isnt up for debate

quiet sedge
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M1 Garand 🤤🤤💦💦

prime pine
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Hey meme what would you think of planes on provence

coral fiber
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I disagree with the whole planes on Provence
If anything it's just gunna be Panzerstorm 2.0
Urges kids to waste their tanks on MAA

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@proud ore panzerstorm is not good? Then what is good? Hamada ?

prime pine
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Hahaha

solid hinge
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can someone remind me again why they didnt put switch team feature in bfv

deep forge
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cause

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the devs are ass

coral fiber
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I do have an issue being it a 4v4 tank
It's too much imo

echo turtle
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balancing issues from what i've heard

deep forge
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that’s why it’s called PANZERstorm

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it’s a storm of tanks

quiet sedge
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Ngl but the guy saying panzerstorm is good is called BFV best game ever so unless he is being ironic theres a few screws loose there

solid hinge
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all i want is to be attacking on al marj

proud ore
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Marita, Fjell, Devastation, Rotterdam, Mercury, Al Marj, and MAYBE operation underground are the best maps.

solid hinge
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only 3-4 people on a team gets to play tanks at any given time, everyone else has to play infantry, and panzerstorm is ass to play infantry one

proud ore
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Others are forgettable imo

deep forge
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where’s Iwo Jima

proud ore
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iwo jima is awful lmao

deep forge
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o nah

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you trippin

quiet sedge
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Fjell is shite

stuck wigeon
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why can you not type" as soon as" in game chat

proud ore
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fjell is def not shite

quiet sedge
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Iwo Jima is the best map in the game imo

solid hinge
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Panzerstorm? You mean "Vroom vroom boom boom map"?

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@stuck wigeon lots of words are censored,

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even words that dont even mean anything bad in any context possible

stuck wigeon
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seven nation army

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@solid hinge 😂😂😂😂

proud ore
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People just like to call Fjell bad because of the poorly balance planes. The map design itself is actually quite good

solid hinge
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i like fjell on conquest

echo turtle
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fjell isn't fun on bt

proud ore
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It's literally fine lol

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if your team doesnt push yeah

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that goes for all bt maps

echo turtle
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i've never wanted to smash my head through a wall but playing that on bt makes me

quiet sedge
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Fjell is literally just a 3 lane simplistic design map

proud ore
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and?

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Fjell is 0/10 for infantry and 10/10 for getting points to upgrade planes

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My opinion

proud ore
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fjell is fine for infantry if you arent bad

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just use rotations

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and be aware

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True

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True 10/10

proud ore
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On Breakthrough you mean?

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I think thats less the map's fault and more the players fault

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people never push

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people still havent figured out how to use smoke

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after like, 19120 bf games

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@proud ore how?

proud ore
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literally go down and to the left of A

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with smoke

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push to the AA gun

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kill people

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win

quiet sedge
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Giving the big bridge map to the yanks makes no sense imo it's supposed to be the German push into the lowlands and France

solid hinge
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Casually loading up bfv at 4:27am

stuck wigeon
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It was the lowest effort "major" update ever

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Literally just reskin stuff and release some garbage sitting in data files

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@proud ore how to use smoke with planes like BF109 G6?

proud ore
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we're talking about breakthrough

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it doesnt have planes

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lmao

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????????????????????????

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WHAAAAAAT

solid hinge
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@solid hinge bingo

proud ore
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xD

stuck wigeon
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breakthrough as japan on solomon is rough too

solid hinge
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omfg why is the game so fufcking laggy

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my ping is freaking 58

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Ghost how many servers has NA got

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EU is dead rn

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a lot

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Does anyone have a list of bf1 private servers?

quiet sedge
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Yea EU had like 2 servers with more than 30 people when I stopped playing at 4

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How the hell would sherman destroy a tiger ?!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!!

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Wtf

queen canopy
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Shooting it from the side or rear

quiet sedge
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I wish the Sherman's had big 50cal guns on top were the gunner would stand behind the turret

queen canopy
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Or from the front even, if its a firefly

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The 1v1 of sherman and tiger is 100% RIP for sherman

stuck wigeon
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My take: update stays popular for two weeks then peters out

solid hinge
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I found a breakthrough server

tribal cairn
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Shermans had the number advantage

solid hinge
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why u see a mmg dude camping in a push and line up a headshot but dipshit teammate jumps in front of u and then u both get killed

quiet sedge
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Yup that's exactly what's gonna happen @stuck wigeon

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The game itself lacks content and becomes very stale quite fast

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Who would win BFV vs BF1 ?

echo turtle
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bo46

quiet sedge
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I mean for a game that's in year 2 of constn updates and map additions it's most certainly lacks content, but that's mostly due to the tiny amount of playable maps in the base game

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solid hinge
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bfv is quite unplayable atm and managed to ruin my mood once again

proud ore
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bfv has been unplayable since the alpha

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xd

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Imagine Epic games make BF1 for free ? Angry Angry

proud ore
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do you guys have any idea how the recoil works in bfv?

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Like GTA V

proud ore
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if you dont ill tell you

quiet sedge
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I've had to stop playing bfv 3 times today because of the constant bullshif

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Bullshit

coral fiber
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Random recoil XD

quiet sedge
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But I need footage so I have too keep coming back to play it

solid hinge
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every since the update it been a nonstop bug and lag fest

proud ore
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s p r e a d t o r e c o i l

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Anyone here is on console ?

solid hinge
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BfV is so dead

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The server is almost full but everyone is braindead

quiet sedge
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There are so many low levels at

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At

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Atm

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Yes its because of sales my dude

solid hinge
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the high levels arent any less brain dead than the low levels

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Itss not sales

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It's the fact its 4:38am

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bruh why tf is everyone crashing the fucking planes

echo turtle
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rookie pilots

quiet sedge
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They are all dumb as fuck but theres only so many rounds you can fit in an m1 garand and they soon overrun you

solid hinge
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I'ma go to sleep and wake up to a bunch of full server

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@solid hinge do you hate or like BFV ?

solid hinge
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my teammates, and the enemies, for whatever reason keep flying them into the ground

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I like bfv

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im not kidding, 10th time this round

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Sometimes I hate it

echo turtle
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tbh seeing one spiral into the ground is cool

solid hinge
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i love it sometimes too but rn i really fucking hate it

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Anywag

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Way

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If you hate BFV hit weirdChamp and if you like it hit OMEGALUL

solid hinge
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See you people later

slender drift
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There truly is no other kind of LMG like the Madsen MG.

quiet sedge
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I know the Johnson is supposed to be better than the garand but I just live that fuckin ping, it makes me moist every time

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What is the best LMG gun ?!?!??!?!?

solid hinge
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I Can't use the Madsen tbh

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The mag just blocks to much of the screen

echo turtle
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type 11

slender drift
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257 rpm with no comparable upsides, no magazine
There is a magazine.

quiet sedge
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The best lmg is my ass

solid hinge
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When I do use it tho it is pretty good

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What is the best gun to use in recon???

slender drift
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The best lmg is my ass
What are you, 12?

quiet sedge
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No I'm just sleep deprived

slender drift
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Then, go to sleep.

quiet sedge
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I cannot

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Sleep eludes

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Me

slender drift
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Get off Discord, and go to sleep.

solid hinge
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im fucking done

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let me know if they fix bfv after the patch

quiet sedge
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Dont you think I've tried sleeping

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It doesnt work

echo turtle
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try harder

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@solid hinge what happened ?

slender drift
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Dont you think I've tried sleeping
Try again.

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Keep trying.

quiet sedge
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Bar runs out of ammo before you kill someone its trash

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So im going to use madsen?@solid hinge

proud ore
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I mean.... if you miss a ton then the bar is trash

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lmao

solid hinge
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@wheat badge its laggy and buggy beyond the point of being playable and everyone is fucking brain dead

quiet sedge
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Yes it does its widly inaccurate

echo turtle
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unless you're dumping the whole mag into their dead body

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@solid hinge ok

echo turtle
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there's two firing modes

solid hinge
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@solid hinge ok

quiet sedge
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The bar in BF1 was way better

slender drift
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DICE should've added a cooldown mechanism for the Lewis Gun once it gets a 97-round magazine.

quiet sedge
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The bar in Cod WaW was the best tho

slender drift
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There is no way that a machine gun can burn through 97 rounds all at once without overheating.

quiet sedge
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Yeah theres no team balancing which just leads to a full team playing against 15 people and theres no way to change team

solid hinge
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@slender drift yes that is a problem but shhhhhhh just let it happen

pastel grove
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Enhanced grips or quick aim for Chauchat 🤔

proud ore
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quick aim

quiet sedge
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I want a Vietnam were you can napalm civies

languid nova
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anyones game not launching?

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mine just does a black screen, loading icon then crashes

wet fossil
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The Johnson is a nice rifle, but the damn irons are pretty restrictive.

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That's one ugly piece of metal blocking half my vision

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I'm going for quick reload.

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It's a neat system but it's clunky as all hell.

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Does it want pvp?

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As long as it doesn't want anything related to an objective, Combined Arms should handle it.

echo turtle
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Tf

tough lodge
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Defending provence on final sector

wet fossil
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The LMG assignments that are screwing me are the newer ones that want kills over 50 metres in PVP

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Ten in a round? With this magazine?

tough lodge
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@wet fossil the BAR mastery lmao

solid hinge
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Hipfire kills on lmgs are ez

wet fossil
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Not with a Chauchat. That thing kicks like a mule.

solid hinge
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Just lay down and get bipod

tough lodge
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Just bipod an mg42

solid hinge
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Anything like bf1 should be fine

main grove
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Chauchat has got a Hipfire spec that makes it ok for Hipfire

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The Hipfire specs are no joke

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They massively buff the Hipfire

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Try it on FG42 or KE7

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What are it’s damage numbers

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How far is it a 3 hit kill up to?

solid hinge
main grove
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And then how far is it a 4 hit beyond that

solid hinge
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why does BFV Conquest have to be so shite

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good maps wont even save it

copper gorge
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better question is why didnt dice put breakthrough in the new playlist

fossil heron
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Yeah its probably the same exact damage model if the turner

solid hinge
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Watch BF6 is just going to be all Breakthrough RIP

fossil heron
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Conquest gives you a better feel for the map

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Question is why didnt they include the other new map in the playlist

main grove
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Johnson rifle hasn’t really got that much appeal but it’s got a cool reload

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The fact that the loading gate is separate from the bolt is so weird to me

solid hinge
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Everyone's gushing on the movement in BFV but by the time the next game comes out people will toss BFV away so fast 😩

main grove
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Like the lack of closing the bolt like every other bullet by bullet SAR is just weird

unborn tide
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You know

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I was excited for the new planes

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But how could you be when AAs are just stupid overpowered

solid hinge
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BF turned into a History channel 👌😩

main grove
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The one time I tried a mustang I had some clan dude spam me with messages saying I was wasting plane

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Because the two other members were in planes

unborn tide
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Love getting killed on the other side map by a flakpanzers

main grove
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I haven’t tried American planes since

unborn tide
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Or sum trash player AA camping

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@main grove there’s no point in trying them

solid hinge
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BFV flying is dogshit

copper gorge
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AA honestly needs to be nerfed. Taking down a plane should be a team effort in the same way blowing up a tank is - since the introduction of the fliegerfaust, theres no real need to have AA as powerful as it is

solid hinge
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time to use that no skilled JU88-A bomber again

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and then stall in the air when someone gets close like a pussy

unborn tide
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Dude it’s so stupid

copper gorge
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stallerfield five

unborn tide
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they did this in Bf1 too

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They overly buffed AAs

copper gorge
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if you stall deliberately there should fully be l;

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like a ten second penalty

unborn tide
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The new bomber can eat

main grove
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Dogfighting is shit in every BF

unborn tide
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Like it takes so many rounds to talk it down

main grove
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It’s not unique to V

copper gorge
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bf1 was actually quite okay

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i really enjoyed bf1 dogfighting

unborn tide
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@main grove BF1 had some amazing pilots

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And then they took off the rockets of the G-2!?

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Why??

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It was already balanced

main grove
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BF1 had a somewhat fast plane vs plane TTK

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Which helped making it feel less shit

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But when you’re fighting someone who only does circles

unborn tide
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It’s utterly ridiculous how they ruin planes

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That’s easy to counter

main grove
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It’s just so unfun

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Honestly

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I think planes need to go from BF

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Like period

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They aren’t adding to the experience for anyone

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They’re either broken as shit or useless

unborn tide
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The planes right now are great

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But getting mapped by an AA from 950m

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That’s fucking stupid

amber pine
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Agreed

unborn tide
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Then the fligerfaust can one shot planes again

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Wtf

wet fossil
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They have to sacrifice their anti-tank capability to do that.

solid hinge
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lmao taking away planes in a BF game

wet fossil
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Therefore, basically nobody uses it.

solid hinge
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no wonder why Dice doesn't listen to the community

amber pine
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Hmm

solid hinge
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how about we take away Conquest next and just leave Breakthrough 👌

quiet sedge
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Dog fighting in bf4 was fun

main grove
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Conquest honestly just needs smaller maps

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Like just cordon off areas of Hamada and it’ll be fine

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Take away the entire A B and C parts of Hamada

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Have the map shaped like a sideways Y

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Where Brits and Germans spawn side by side racing to take E F G

unborn tide
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DICE listens to its casual players rather than its actual community

main grove
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Not directly side by side

solid hinge
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BFV gameplay really is only suited for smaller maps

unborn tide
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That’s why BF games like this one has gone to shit

solid hinge
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not sure why they ever tried to make large maps in the game

unborn tide
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Cause people complain it’s too hard

solid hinge
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just copy and paste Narvik and Rotterdam to everything

main grove
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What?

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How is a large map “easy”

solid hinge
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Definitely but it's still more fun on Conquest than half of the maps in the game

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Narvik at least had action

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True

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BFV is really just a garbage game

west cedar
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Bf4 is still possibly my favorite

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On next gen atleast

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In my opinion hardline was a good game but really didn’t fit in

solid hinge
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BFV 🥱

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Does the game even go above 10k players?

fossil heron
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Hardline was like CoD and BF had a baby

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An inbred baby

solid hinge
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Same can be said with BFV

unborn tide
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Narvik big trash

fossil heron
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Narvik rush is pretty fire

solid hinge
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shy badger
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Same can be said with BFV
@solid hinge
Bfv is far from a cod/bf hybrid

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Bc2 is the perfect example of that (and people seemed to love it btw)

tribal cairn
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Yeah, it was a pretty good game

lean crown
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Maybe you’re the problem bingus?

prime pine
amber pine
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The best time is in wartime

tough lodge
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m

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m

lean crown
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yes

fossil heron
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@prime pine well he's having a blast

prime pine
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Hehehe

gray copper
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I was heard panzer storm has changed to German vs USA

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but

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wait, why I cant upload some screenshot?

tight rain
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You arent a regular

gray copper
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Ok, btw I saw UK vs German in panzer storm, and some time ago it was German vs USA in panzer storm

solid hinge
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Damn this flamethrower pistol is pretty funny

pastel torrent
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the game kinda needs team balancing

wet fossil
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As far as I can tell, Panzerstorm on regular Conquest servers is still British.

formal dirge
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too bad last update is this month so ://///////////////////

wet fossil
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The American one is currently attached to the Provence playlist.

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I kinda prefer it this way.

solid hinge
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why tf is the server ping fucked?

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Can't find any server under 150 ping

urban depot
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Bring back Battlefield One

ashen nexus
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Btw in BF1
FARQUAR HILL STORM OR M1907 SL SWEEPER???

echo turtle
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The Farquhar hill personally

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It feels nice to fire and I find it consistent at longer ranges

upper vault
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I like to sweep

timid hollow
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I’ve been playing BFV the entire day on the new game mode.

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Never even got to go to the New Map

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Unsure about the name but it’s a Camp in Africa map

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Sure go ahead a try if you want

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I also keep getting German on Panzerstorm

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See ya

upper vault
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Al Marj Encampement

lilac umbra
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with bf6 if there is updates like this one

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it would make the game great

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province map gives me bf1 vibes

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that sky looks like its from that 2 bf1 map and that m3 gun blue scope is from battlefront2 landos gun

solid hinge
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Anyone know where I can find the current BFV breakthrough rotation?

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Anyone want to help me with a D-Day tribute video

tribal cairn
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Y'know, Shermans aren't too terrible of a tank, come to think of it on the new maps

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Very maneuverable,

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Decently fast base traverse speed

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Can stop on a dime,

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And it's 75mm is good for most situations

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The 76 is better, but eh

solid hinge
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I feel the 76mm is necessary in the new maps

tribal cairn
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The flamethrower is also underutilized

solid hinge
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Especially since we have to worry about Tigers

tribal cairn
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It's good for bum rushing assaults who think they can rush you without worry

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And also, true

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They out range and out damage the Shermans

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Least the base version

solid hinge
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Sherman’s can easily out maneuver Tigers and get to their backside to easily get massive damage but getting that close risks giving the Tiger an easy 2-3 shot on you

tribal cairn
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Also, it's not really that easy to flank in a medium tank in the first place especially in those open maps

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Someone is bound to notice

solid hinge
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True

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I do have a clip of a Sherman using his speed to his advantage though

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And he destroyed the Tiger

tribal cairn
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Also, found out the hard way,

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Objective C in Provence is basically a vehicle death trap

solid hinge
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Yes

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Actually the Church Courtyard is a death trap for vehicles

tribal cairn
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There's a line of sight from A which tigers can fire from,

solid hinge
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Infantry everywhere

tribal cairn
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And Assaults can hide under the bridge

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Question is,

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Who is dumb enough

solid hinge
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I’m just excited to see the new uniforms and community games options

tribal cairn
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To go into the church courtyard as a vehicle?

solid hinge
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A lot of people

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Pumas and Sherman’s mostly

tribal cairn
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It's a death trap for any vehicle to be in an objective area

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Your big,

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You don't have full visual,

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And it's likely that your team doesn't give a shit about you

solid hinge
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I hid on a corner as an Mg42 gunner and no one cared to check so I took advantage of it

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In Provence

tight rain
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I would imagine you took out a few people?

solid hinge
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Yes

tribal cairn
#

I don't stoop down to mmg corner nests

#

On Provence, my personal favorite spot is the church tower itself

solid hinge
#

You’re really easy to kill

#

Easy headshot

tribal cairn
#

Take out only one window

#

Only one, that's the key

tight rain
#

Mmgs are much funner when you are in the middle of the action

tribal cairn
#

Otherwise you reveal yourself to snipers from the sides

#

Watch the alleyway leading from B to A and the fountain

#

You are bound to have direct line of sight on any incoming soldiers

#

And they never expect an MMG to be in the tower either

solid hinge
#

I have a clip of me running into two GIs at C, I kill the first one by hip fire, and then I throw a shaped charge onto his car and it blows up and roadkills him by it blowing back into him

tribal cairn
#

And don't worry about being snuck up on

#

The ladder is loud enough to warn you

solid hinge
#

The side of the town by C is a snipers wet dream of people running there all the time

quasi tiger
#

Al marj look like achi baba

weak vessel
#

bruh i just thought of a baller ass feature that was a total missed chance

#

basically

#

let engineer support classes be able to convert the drivable tractors in to bob semple tanks

gray glade
#

you are truly a genius

zenith gyro
#

ea play delayed

prime pine
#

The shermans engine feels a lot slower

#

The engine upgrade

wet fossil
#

Twisted Steel is still British too

#

Please leave it that way.

molten owl
#

ok

wet fossil
#

Nothing more satisfying than ruining the Luftwaffe's day with a 40mm.

#

Nine planes shot down in some five minutes

molten owl
#

ok

trim osprey
#

bru
british vs ge plane need balance

novel light
#

P51D actually is quite nasty with some upgrades

prime pine
#

Have you tried the burst rockets

novel light
#

Although getting to them is the tricky part

trim osprey
#

ye
p51d is good but
spitfire get shred by 109

#

this patch just

wet fossil
#

Goddammit Solomon has fucking mosquitos in your ears if it's quiet

prime pine
#

The fact that manual supercharge replaces instant repair is honestly bullshit

trim osprey
#

ye

novel light
#

109 G-6 is a bit mad

#

Switched back to it from G-2

prime pine
#

You gang up on valentine aa's with a friend

#

Two g6's can destroy them instantly

#

Strafing is now easier too cause they no longer float

#

And that hmg's are actually GOOD

novel light
#

To be fair, that goes for two of any plane with base game or upgraded rockets

gray glade
#

how can i join teams that arent shit

prime pine
#

8x rockets is good

gray glade
#

whenever i join a server i'm put on a team that gets completely fucked

novel light
#

I prefer 2x, personally

prime pine
#

But due to supercharger I might give up on it and go for burst rockets considering how important instant repair is

#

Burst rockets can do 100% to lights

#

6x

#

90 to mediums

#

But 12x from the looks will fuck everything up

solid hinge
wet fossil
#

Just had to go full Fury with an abandoned Sherman

#

Parked at the resupply at Solomon C point and basically held off the entire fucking Japanese army

#

26 kills.

solid hinge
#

Damn

wet fossil
#

Went an extended period of time without repair or resupply because the fuckers kept pelting me with AT rifles

amber pine
solid hinge
#

i hit a tank with lunge mine that was on the brink of death and it did nothing to the tank and just killed me instead

ionic folio
#

Hey guys what battlefield game has the most free maps?

west cedar
#

I don’t know if it still is but I know bf1 Gave away all the dlc map packs a while ago

ionic folio
#

Yeah but it wasn’t permanent

shy badger
#

I guess bfv

ionic folio
#

Wasn’t it battlefield 1942?

shy badger
#

But oldet games are cheaper so..

#

Oh you're talking about the classics too?

#

Then maybe

#

There are dlcs for bf42 too but not sure how many vanilla maps thetr are

ionic folio
#

I think there’s like 30 I can’t remember

#

But battlefield 5 has like 20 maps

shy badger
#

22

manic linden
#

thats alot

ionic folio
#

No it’s definitely 20

#

I prefer bfV to bf 1 and 4

manic linden
#

its 19

shy badger
#

Lemme check

ionic folio
#

It’s 20 if your counting lofoten islands

manic linden
#

20 with fire storm

ionic folio
#

It’s 21 then

shy badger
#

Well 21 if you count provence once

manic linden
#

ok

solid hinge
#

searching for a squad

shy badger
#

I guess its fair to count it once

manic linden
#

what's your favorite weapon in the game

shy badger
#

Its a tough one

#

Uhm

#

Maybe turner? Either that or krag

manic linden
#

for me it`s the stg 44

shy badger
#

Eh I used to like it a lot before 5.2

#

But it just doesn't feel as good anymore

manic linden
#

yeah i know

#

first i used the sten smg alot but stopt for some reason

midnight needle
#

Love the MP40.

#

Decent damage and good range as well as a good ROF

#

Johnson rifle looks decent. Used her a couple of times.

wild jacinth
#

did they add sherman to all maps?

#

i just played on twisted steel with one

midnight needle
#

Twisted steel is now a US versus German map

wild jacinth
#

that was part of the update

#

holy shit they should make more maps usa vs germans or just add the fucking sherman to brits

#

i guess braddock did kind of listen

midnight needle
#

German vehicles need a slight buff. 😂

shy badger
#

did they add sherman to all maps?
@wild jacinth
Nah just TS and panzerstorm

#

And provence too since its reworked

wild jacinth
#

fuck man hopefully theyre doing minor updates

#

cause man i love sherman on all maps

#

right braddock

#

right

manic linden
#

is it just me or are american jeeps op

stable python
#

I found a bug, can't damage sherman with my puma in front of it while literally firing direct shot

manic linden
#

bruh

wild jacinth
#

dude

#

the puma is a shat vehicle

#

its literally for infantry support and just slaying infantry

midnight needle
#

Well yeah

pale meteor
#

you need to upgrade it

midnight needle
#

That’s what they were for historically

wild jacinth
#

your not suppose to blow up normal tanks with it but i guess if they give you the certain nose for the tank then i guess it can do some damage

midnight needle
#

They need to buff the quad 50 cal damage to infantry. Only does 3 damage per shot.

wet fossil
#

Three? That's fucked.

midnight needle
#

your not suppose to blow up normal tanks with it but i guess if they give you the certain nose for the tank then i guess it can do some damage
@wild jacinth A 50mm with AP rounds could pen a Sherman side and rear armor and maybe the lower glacius plate.

#

Three? That's fucked.
@wet fossil Yeah... literally shooting the back of a guy in the head and for five seconds he was just like “What’s hitting me?”

#

It’s horrible against anti infantry. Greyhound quad 50 cal upgrade is shit. ;-;

wet fossil
#

If this game was receiving more support, I'd add the Puma to the British maps (haven't seen any around...) and introduce the Crusader as the 38t equivalent.

midnight needle
#

Gonna go for the AP rounds and see if I can maybe do damage against tanks..

wet fossil
#

The Staghound is already in as the armoured car.

wild jacinth
#

well what im saying in general is that things not meant for blowing up tanks

#

kind of like the stag hound or that one vehicle the americans had with a really weak gun it wasn't meant to take out tigers but of course if you got the rear you could take em out

prime pine
#

Puma is crazy at flanking

wild jacinth
#

plus i forgot they probably added other barrels for the puma so your right

midnight needle
#

AA guns and AAA guns could actually damage tanks and that’s because physics takes over. You speed up a projectile to a certain speed and you can pretty much destroy it

prime pine
#

I have yet to try out the chode barrel for it

#

With ap

wild jacinth
#

chode barrel lol

solid hinge
#

I have this bright white light bug on my brand new laptop. i have never had it before ever, i7 9750h gtx1660ti. is there any fix for it? its not just on 1 map, had it on 2 maps in 3 rounds

#

bf1

wild jacinth
#

reinstall drivers

#

maybe

midnight needle
#

Anyone ever see the bug on the crosshairs? The small “m”?

#

Pops up for a couple seconds then goes bye bye

solid hinge
#

im "repairing" the game atm, gonna go thru all those obvious steps yes but wanted to ask here if there was maybe someone who had something more specific

#

solution

#

anyone know what exactly is causing it= cause if i know that then i know where to look (im computer competent enough to find out if i know the problem)

wet fossil
#

Ever have to put up with a particularly persistent pair of squads who are completely obsessed with a particular objective and will not be pried off it under any circumstances?

jagged girder
#

Hellriegal defensive is fun

green dove
#

Anyone wanna do some assignments on bfv for PS4?

jagged girder
#

120 rounds
Bipod
Lense sight

noble field
#

WOW WE GET SANTA CLAUSE GERMAN ELITE

#

WOW

#

who wanst fish sticks

#

grandpa fighting on the frontlines

#

better than misaki in rotterdamn

midnight needle
#

Ever have to put up with a particularly persistent pair of squads who are completely obsessed with a particular objective and will not be pried off it under any circumstances?
@wet fossil Yes.

#

WOW WE GET SANTA CLAUSE GERMAN ELITE
@noble field Eh?

wet fossil
#

Never, ever, trust those sons of bitches wearing the halloween outfits

#

They're always shitters.

prime pine
#

In what sense

midnight needle
#

I just call them edgy

wet fossil
#

Sliding about with spray and pray weapons

prime pine
#

They're cool sets

midnight needle
#

Type 2a

#

M1A1

#

Thompson

wet fossil
#

Only a single part of each set looks even remotely fine and they're the hats because they're BF1 throwbacks.

prime pine
#

The Axis one for the Japanese team makes you look like an anime villain

wet fossil
#

I'm fucking pissed that the proper slouch hat was tied to that shit.

weak cloak
#

I'd low key trade this whole update for team balancing

midnight needle
#

How do you balance players?

#

They’re always changing how they play

#

And act

wet fossil
#

Because these cowls and whatnot are so damn flowy, they really make it hard to get the hitboxes straight.

#

Frozen menu AGAIN

shy badger
#

@prime pine bods how did you spec your m8?

prime pine
#

Um

#

Primarily AP rounds

shy badger
#

With engine?

brave coral
#

GunterBigHat imagine having even played in any of the new vehicles

prime pine
#

Engine incompatible withap

shy badger
#

Oh

brave coral
#

i haven’t had a chance to lol

shy badger
#

So

#

If you want something stupidly ffun

brave coral
#

tbf i have been focused on the new guns

shy badger
#

And effective

prime pine
#

It's cannon

#

With ap

shy badger
#

Try howitzer+engine

midnight needle
#

Puma is fun

#

DONT go down the AA line with the Greyhound...

shy badger
#

I 1v1 tigers

midnight needle
#

You WILL be disappointed

prime pine
#

On puma

#

Yes

midnight needle
#

I’m stuck until R6 now. Luckily halfway through R4

shy badger
#

On the puma I went with AT

#

Its a decent flanker

#

Good against shermabs

prime pine
#

mine all is max level

shy badger
#

Luckily there are no heavies

brave coral
#

i feel with several vehicles there’s a fun loadout but you need to have it max level first before you can really choose that because it limits you in certain ways

#

obviously not much of an issue if you’re really dedicated to getting in vehicles though

midnight needle
#

Feel like the Tiger shouldn’t outrange the StuG...

#

Then again. It’s an 88 so 🤷‍♂️

prime pine
#

Stug is shit

noble field
#

BFV ELITES

brave coral
#

i forgot how fun bombing the shit out of objectives is lmao

noble field
#

stupid they held all this content from us

#

till now

#

dead game

#

rot

midnight needle
#

Not really. StuG is good when you learn how to aim it

#

You can leave at any time Phazon 😁

west cedar
#

@ionic folio I’m ashamed of you

brave coral
#

got in a ju88a last night and got like a 7 man carpet bomb lol

west cedar
#

How can you like bfv more than 4

molten owl
#

4 is boring

brave coral
#

idk, it’s probably something like having an opinion

tough lodge
#

Im having fun 2 hitting pumas with my AT Sherman

prime pine
#

Dammit dr

molten owl
#

and it kills my eyes with all those effects

tough lodge
#

Even frontal

prime pine
#

You bastard

brave coral
#

@prime pine you like gunterbighat?

shy badger
#

Yea AT shermans wreck pumas

brave coral
#

i made it lol

prime pine
#

Hey blackout and Dr have you seen Gunter with his coat

#

I'm not the biggest fan of hat

tough lodge
#

I want to level up my EU planes

#

But I seem cant

brave coral
#

oh no the big hat is goofy

shy badger
#

The perv outfit?

tough lodge
noble field
#

sherman players have bad score per minute

brave coral
#

but that’s why it’s funny

gray saffron
#

Puma and hound make panzerstorm feel so fast paced

prime pine
noble field
#

they pad their kda

shy badger
#

Yea seen thay xd

prime pine
#

He looks like a white supremisist with that hair cut

tough lodge
#

I have 330 boins

brave coral
#

night owl chauchat is nice

tough lodge
#

What should I but when I get it to 1000

shy badger
#

Kinda wonder if it looks good on gals

prime pine
#

It is dr

brave coral
#

i don’t think they have that haircut

prime pine
#

But I got mine gold

shy badger
#

Care to send a pic? :D

prime pine
#

I gotta get one ready

tough lodge
#

Can DICE give us customization preset that is changeable in game

#

Like jesus

prime pine
#

Gimme a bit

tough lodge
#

Seeing people with winterkrieg on libya

brave coral
#

@tough lodge chances are it’s because they want to use it though lol

#

winterkrieg was a completely free outfit so loads of people have it and use it

tough lodge
#

Also dice didnt separate US EU and US Pacific

prime pine
weak cloak
#

I love having 3 0-500 games in a row

brave coral
#

me when i magdump my chauchat down a canyon on al marj and get 7 kills

#

how is it so good lol

prime pine
#

3 hk madness

midnight needle
#

I love having 3 0-500 games in a row
@weak cloak That’s cause whenever there’s an update all the shit players come out. Can’t tell you how many battles I’ve had where people are either looking around being idiots or inspecting things on the back line.

brave coral
#

@prime pine idk how much you’ve used it but i discovered you can use the kampfpistole as essentially a frag mortar

weak cloak
#

Always fun

brave coral
#

it’s got stupid range, like 150m is easily doable

prime pine
#

That's really far

weak cloak
#

Imagine an update that doesn't break the game

prime pine
#

Further than you might think

#

Its a 5 hit kill past 50 m

brave coral
#

not the easiest to aim since you have to basically guess where it will land but on a crowded objective it works fine for getting some damage

prime pine
#

I run fast reload over recoil buffer

brave coral
#

uh

prime pine
#

Due to obvious reasons

brave coral
#

i was talking about the kampfpistole lol

prime pine
#

Oh

#

Wtf

#

I didn't read

brave coral
#

gj

prime pine
#

I'm not sure about the kampfpistole

brave coral
#

but yeah i went fast reload on the chauchat and on the johnson

prime pine
#

I try to use it like an additional grenade

brave coral
#

both have pretty long reloads at base

prime pine
#

Ye

misty sky
#

hey

brave coral
#

the kampfpistole is basically four frag grenades that you can launch across the map

#

ive already got the bronze tag for it lmao

prime pine
#

I tried to get kills with it but it's not working

#

Care to give me a clip on how you use it?

brave coral
#

it’s kinda difficult to guarantee kills bc it’s just a fused grenade

misty sky
#

I hava a problem that my Battlefield starts but instantly shuts down and then the origin launcher opens. Before the update everythink was fine any help :d

prime pine
#

Hmm

brave coral
#

normally i just spam it down cramped spaces on breakthrough lol

#

or as i said you can just yeet it across the map into objectives which isn’t super reliable but it feels fun and i did get a random triple

#

also i assumed the type 99 mines detonated on impact with a vehicle for some reason

prime pine
#

They sound just bad

brave coral
#

they don’t - so i ran up to a damaged sherman, threw them at him, and he just gunned me down

#

then he just blows up as i’m lying on the ground lol

#

they’re... ok

#

surprisingly good against infantry as a bait thing

prime pine
#

Ah

brave coral
#

like i ran up some stairs, there were two guys in there, so i threw the mines at the bottom of the stairs as i made my exit and got a bunch of damage and a kill

gray saffron
#

@shy badger omg yes, girl plus coat plus shorts = dress

prime pine
#

Boom

brave coral
#

if you throw them next to each other you get a bigger explosion because the first one sets off the other

gray saffron
#

Huehue its 1337

#

Ah flip now its 1338 :(

tough lodge
#

Hope they sell rare skins for boins

gray saffron
#

Throw two at mines at a aa gunner and it blows up

brave coral
#

individual rares are normally available for Cc and boins in the armoury

#

i think the type 99s are the best of the new throwables

#

but that’s not a particularly high bar lol

gray saffron
#

The timer tajes too long imo

crystal blaze
#

I still cant figure out how the demolition charge works

brave coral
#

@crystal blaze it’s basically a light AT mine

crystal blaze
#

Ah

gray saffron
#

Its like at mine, but for small vehicles

#

Yeah proximity based to explode

brave coral
#

you can throw it at a vehicle and it instantly detonates, or it blows up when an enemy drives over it

prime pine
#

So it has no primer

#

?

brave coral
#

yeah it won’t detonate by itself like a grenade

#

there’s no fuse

prime pine
#

I mean

brave coral
#

but you can throw it at something and shoot it

prime pine
#

You know how a mine takes a bit to arm itself

#

Does the type 99 mine not do this?

brave coral
#

oh

prime pine
#

Plus are you referring to the tic tac bomb or the Japanese mine

brave coral
#

the type 99 will stick to a vehicle and blow up after the random 5-10 seconds

#

the demo charge will blow up on contact with a vehicle but there’s no fuse

prime pine
#

You know what a prime is right

#

So for the type 99 mine is there a delay before it explodes

brave coral
#

yes

prime pine
#

Huh

#

Right

brave coral
#

but it’s the same random timer in any situation as far as i can tell

#

it always explodes anywhere from 5 to 10 seconds after you throw it

prime pine
#

But doesn't it explode instantly on contact with vehicle

brave coral
#

no

dense isle
#

Hello

brave coral
#

it will just stick to it

prime pine
#

Ok

#

So like a timed tnt

brave coral
#

LUL i threw one at the ground as a jeep drove past me and watched him drive along then blow up

prime pine
#

Demo charge being a weaker at mine

#

Haha

#

That would have been cool

brave coral
#

yeah pretty much what you said

dense isle
#

Whats the worst battlefield 4 map

prime pine
#

Dude I had a fucking puma shake no at me dr

brave coral
#

mine just doesn’t stick to surfaces

prime pine
#

I fired on it

#

And it's like

#

No pls

brave coral
#

yeah you showed the other day lol

prime pine
#

And I felt sorry for him

#

Yeah!

#

Would you feel sorry for him?

brave coral
#

uh

#

maybe

prime pine
#

maybe

brave coral
#

back to the type 99, it feels like it’s probably most fitting on assault honestly

prime pine
#

Yeah

#

Its nice that medic and recon have their own at

#

Primary focus should be the fact that they can destroy fortis

brave coral
#

especially since i tend to run the frag launcher anyway, having somewhat of a light utility explosive is cool

#

yeah it also probably works on conquest recon

prime pine
#

Fire crackers are actually pretty good

#

Well

#

At diverting attention wise

brave coral
#

throw two at a tank and just leave, does a decent amount of damage

prime pine
#

Gets them to go away

#

The shaped charge does 99 to halftracks

brave coral
#

firecrackers seem like they could be good for some high IQ plays but are otherwise very niche

prime pine
#

Yeah

#

Throw them and divert attention to go through another flank

brave coral
#

can you throw the charge far? or is it like the menu video shows where you have to be literally touching the vehicle

prime pine
#

The firecracker

#

Or the demo charge

brave coral
#

the shaped charge

prime pine
#

Oh

#

Its

#

:/

#

It's got so much weight

brave coral
#

lol

prime pine
#

Only good for point blank

brave coral
#

i guess makes sense tbf

#

i need to try the throwable demo charge

prime pine
#

Good for fortis

brave coral
#

see what it’s like against various vehicles and also if it’s a good manual breaching thing

prime pine
#

It does 50 to mediums

#

Its a throwable lunge mine with a delayed explosion

brave coral
#

i can see myself maybe using it on medic as a thing to bust open walls

prime pine
#

OH

wet fossil
#

That damn fuse priming on the shaped charge keeps getting me killed

#

Let me throw it already

brave coral
#

i mean the tictac bomb

prime pine
#

You mean DEMO CHARGE not SHAPED dr

#

You bastard

brave coral
#

i need to try the throwable demo charge
yes

wet fossil
#

I'm already risking everything just to get close enough to slap it on

brave coral
#

this is the problem with adding a bunch of different explosives at once lol

prime pine
#

You wonder what the fuck

#

I destroyed a Sherman with eistenfoss

brave coral
#

btw random thing i noticed

prime pine
#

Hmm

#

?

wet fossil
#

I can't even kill a single man with those

shy badger
#

@shy badger omg yes, girl plus coat plus shorts = dress
@gray saffron Yes

#

btw ew

brave coral
#

for some reason the gold tag for the einstoss needs 600 kills lol

prime pine
#

Fuck that

brave coral
#

compared to any other lethal/at gadget which needs just 150

inner junco
#

how is it fun to camp in a bomber

brave coral
#

idk if that was intentional although i don’t see it changing

inner junco
#

and fly at the max altitude

#

then bail the second another plane attacks you

brave coral
#

oh

#

yeah some people are terrible

wet fossil
#

Goddamn European planes feel faster all of a sudden

#

Extremely responsive.

brave coral
#

i was going to say ‘it’s not very engaging but it is somewhat satisfying to just bomb objectives from orbit’

prime pine
#

Why fly bombers at all when you can take the night fighters

gray saffron
#

@shy badger you wouldn't say ew everytime you meet me, if you stopped phoning while you're sitting on your stink!

prime pine
#

Or the medium crafts

brave coral
#

but yeah if you bail out of planes you suck lol

prime pine
#

Dr the burst rockets are good

#

You can annihilate light tanks with 6 of them

brave coral
#

i’ve not had a chance to fly any american planes yet lol

prime pine
#

The 12 rockets can even possibly destroy a medium tank

#

I mean

#

Heavy

shy badger
#

D:

#

Touché

prime pine
#

9 is enough for mediums

brave coral
#

the mustang felt... weird to fight

#

or like it felt weak

prime pine
#

The g6s hmgs feel weird

brave coral
#

but idk if that was just a stock one with a bad pilot

prime pine
#

They're magnificent to fly with

#

But the rockets are GOOD

#

They do 70 damage to planes

#

So just tickle them

brave coral
#

i figures it was just a noob pilot because i was not exactly in a good dogfighter

#

and when i say that i mean i was in a ju88c

prime pine
#

Unspecced it's week

#

Weak

#

Were you flying the yellow tipped or the red tipped

civic onyx
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Does saying aloha count as english?

brave coral
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i just got a good course and sat in the front gunner position and blitzed him

prime pine
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Brbrbrbt

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Maybe even a buff

idle breach
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want to murder those idiots constantly asked for AA buff

brave coral
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he didn’t even react, he was just sat chasing me with i’m assuming 2x lmgs hoping he would outdamage me

shy badger
brave coral
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which wasn’t gonna happen

idle breach
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leveling up these planes would take weeks lmao

civic onyx
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I love sniping

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Next time before someone mutes me for a day at least ASK me to SPEAK ENIGLISH in the chat before you mute me for 24 hours because I also wasn’t the only one speaking German

amber pine
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Oof

prime pine
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Anyone got a gif of a bayonet chargr

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A smooth gif

gray saffron
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make one

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:3

idle breach
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m

gray saffron
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m

tough lodge
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m

brave garnet
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m

idle breach
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m

timid hollow
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nn

brave garnet
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What's with the small m that pops up on screen?

timid hollow
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i think it’s a range thing for the mosin

brave garnet
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No

timid hollow
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grenade launcher

brave garnet
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Not that

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There's an m that pops up randomly

tough lodge
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m

timid hollow
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yeah i think it has something to do with the new grenade launchers

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it has a meters thing on the recital

brave garnet
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Nooo

tough lodge
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m

brave garnet
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Its nothing to do with the grenade rifle

timid hollow
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ik what ur talking about

tough lodge
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m

timid hollow
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but i think it has something to do with these new grenade rifle

tough lodge
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i think you dont get it

timid hollow
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i would even see it with out it equipped

brave garnet
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It pops up for every class

tough lodge
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Its not related to grenade launchers

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Its just there

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m

timid hollow
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m

idle breach
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m

timid hollow
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mmm

solid hinge
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It's related to the new frag launcher

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For recon

idle breach
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but i never used them

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lmao

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m

tough lodge
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m

idle breach
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lmao shogun shotgun is not really good

brave coral
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stock it’s kinda ehh but it gets a lot better once you get the buckshot upgrades, as with the other shotguns

idle breach
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not impressive

brave coral
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shotgun’s a shotgun

idle breach
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at least chocholat is pretty unique

brave coral
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it’s nothing particularly special other than it looks cool but it does the job reasonably well

tough lodge
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Sjörgen

brave coral
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sjögren

idle breach
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sogen

brave coral
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soggy

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the soggy shotty

idle breach
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sjogun

solid hinge
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The new sniper. Not the one with the thermal scope. Is ridiculously good

brave coral
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eh it’s decent

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i’ve been having a few issues with it

solid hinge
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why?

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New shotgun has slings and swivels

brave coral
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seems to have problems with aligning the sights and where the shot goes

solid hinge
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And accurate hipfire on slugs for some reason

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The new sniper has ludicrously ugly sights

brave coral
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and the chevron is too thick imo. fix those two issues and it’s fine

idle breach
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-^-

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ㅡㅅㅡ

brave coral
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the chevron needs to be a lot thinner personally, makes it pretty difficult to use at range

solid hinge
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I played a few games today. It was perfectly fine for me. Even when I sprint and aim. The sight is personal opinion. The Bullet travels really fast

idle breach
solid hinge
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@brave coral And I think the chevron is ok. The sniper should be used in closed quarters because of the 3x scope

brave coral
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but it’s got a 6x scope spec

solid hinge
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really?

brave coral
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and any other 3x is a lot more usable at range

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this one there’s no decent thing to line up the shot with to adjust for drop, and the line is so thick it obscures targets at like 100m

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tbh when i get it to level 4 i’ll probably re-spec it and stick with the 3x scope with faster bolt speed

wind edge
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I will kill u

brave coral
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i appreciate the offer but i think i’ll decline today

wind edge
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Ok

prime pine
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Sjogern is a slower 12g

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With more control