#battlefield-legacy-titles

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feral glade
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on bf3 id play DM prior to joining a real server

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just for excercize

pale meteor
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carrier assault would have been great

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as jap vs usa

feral glade
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bf4/5 dont have a genuine DM as far as I'm concernned

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yeah while were at it they should have class and task specific maps ..like all planes, all tanks, all snipers, etc

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and run they 24/7

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them*

quiet sedge
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If we had decent custom games that could work but the current one is half assed

feral glade
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indeed

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EA runs the servers ..cant even have decent clan scrims anymore

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or practice maps

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but im not bitchin about it just observing the facts

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im happy as is

coral fiber
quiet sedge
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Nah it's true, I was in a milsim clan and the whole xbox community has fallen apart with the lackluster private games

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Like on bf4 you could completely customise your private server, make it so that 1 shot kills etc, even hardcore would have been fine for it, but bfv doesnt even have that, after 1 milsim match on bfv I gave up on it

feral glade
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there arnt any real clans anymore just communities where they play lots of games not one specific like in the past

midnight needle
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Would love to join a milsim clan :/

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Can’t really find any dedicated ones on PS4

feral glade
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where would you practice?

quiet sedge
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Does ps4 have some sort of Lookimg For Group bit?

feral glade
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dunno im on PC

midnight needle
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Well, you’ve got the training modes and custom servers..

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Yeah there’s “communities” but... erm..

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They’re not the best. 😂

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Not like discord at least.

feral glade
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yeah i guess but like commander thorn said you cant really control the servers much

midnight needle
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True. :/

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Either or

feral glade
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guess bf6 will be worse

midnight needle
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It’s doable

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BF 6 is an apparent BF 3 remake

feral glade
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if it in fact becomes a massive multi player

quiet sedge
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3 shot kills arent very milsim-y

feral glade
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yeah bf3 remake?...well bfv was rumored to be a bf42 remake

stoic breach
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apparent

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thats a really big stretch of a rumour

feral glade
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ha

stoic breach
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probably gonna be bf3 with attrition lol

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the darling mechanic

midnight needle
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Probably

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Although I like attrition

feral glade
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bf3 massibe

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massive*

stoic breach
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attrition isnt just lack of ammo though thats the thing

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people like to think that attrition is only spawning in with low ammo count

feral glade
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its lack of reserves?

stoic breach
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attrition is a network of systems

feral glade
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3 lives limit per player?

wet fossil
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Literally all of the attrition system can fuck off

stoic breach
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well, one big network system

feral glade
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supplies and all eh?

stoic breach
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yes

wet fossil
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The health pack system is stupid as shit

feral glade
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i could dig that

stoic breach
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attrition prevents gadgets from having cooldowns so they need to be weak

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cause you can resupply too quickly

feral glade
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cool with me

wet fossil
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Somebody gets topped by a sniper and immediately start healing on their own

feral glade
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that sucks

stoic breach
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yeah it makes gunfights inconsistent

wet fossil
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Auto-regen was perfectly fine before.

stoic breach
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tbf thats a problem with every battlefield game

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but BFV handles it the worst

feral glade
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auto gen is weird in concept

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hard core is waay better

wet fossil
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When a guy spawns, the first thing they do every time is make a run to the nearest ammo crate

quiet sedge
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^

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Unless they are support

feral glade
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which is okay aint it?

wet fossil
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I don't much appreciate spawning with literally only one flare

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Especially when they keep fucking with its radius

feral glade
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well i like it a bit more difficult

wet fossil
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It's not difficult, it's busywork

stoic breach
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yeah it would be better if flares were rebalanced, and ammo 2.0 was back in the game

feral glade
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but then again i play project reality as well

quiet sedge
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The ammo crates being everywhere really ruins the teamwork aspect of support, you no longer need rely on your team for ammo

stoic breach
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alternatively, if upon spawn your gadgets were locked for 5 seconds

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that would actually be pretty decent

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cause then you wouldnt spawn and instantly shoot a flare

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your life isnt dedicated to gadget spam

feral glade
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i hated the squad heal at first as medic but nowe i see that it keeps a squad working close by

solid hinge
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the attrition is fine as it is and i see no problem with it

wet fossil
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What if this point needs a flare right fucking now

feral glade
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the your hard as out of luck for wasting your last one

wet fossil
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Upon literally just spawning

feral glade
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oh

wet fossil
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They had to make a whole new fucking gadget just to get them to work indoors

quiet sedge
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The time between selecting a teammate to spawn on and actually spawning is really annoying how slow it is and 5 out if ten times I get kicked back to map because they're now in combat

wet fossil
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Also the sticky flares don't give you points for destroying them

solid hinge
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respawn cool down needs to be 5 seconds instead of 10

feral glade
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well dice did say that bfv was a compromise from traditional and hardcore gaming

crystal blaze
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Recon players keep shooting flares at my tank

wet fossil
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Hardcore gaming really needs to piss off.

molten owl
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ok

wet fossil
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If they want to do that, then they can go play fucking hardcore.

feral glade
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naw i only play hardcore in bf4

wet fossil
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Not force their shit on the rest of us.

feral glade
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i dont like to be tracked by death view for one

solid hinge
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its not even bad

quiet sedge
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Bf4 hardcore was nothing like the "hardcore" aspects of bfv

feral glade
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how you see that?

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bfv has death view and 100% health for two

quiet sedge
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Death view makes silencers useless since the second you kill someone they see exactly where you are

feral glade
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thats my point

wet fossil
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Silencers really don't need to be any more powerful

molten owl
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it is good to find hackers tho

solid hinge
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why is that a problem

wet fossil
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You think people fucking communicate in this game?

feral glade
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they have bullet drop in bf4

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yes in squads they do

wet fossil
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What fucking squads are you working with

feral glade
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mostly my friends

wet fossil
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These fuckwits won't even look at pings right next to me

solid hinge
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thats your friends, not the majority of squads

feral glade
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people i mert here in chat on in squad voice

wet fossil
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Because you're on pc

deep forge
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imagine not adding a playlist to a new map

feral glade
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hell just join a vouice channel youll meet cooperative players

wet fossil
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Around here, anybody worth talking to is stuck in party chat

feral glade
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dunno about that

solid hinge
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@deep forge they did a lot of things i think are dumb

deep forge
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fr

feral glade
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you gotta be half assed friendly for one

strong quail
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in bf4 you can carry your team if you're really skilled)

wet fossil
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That never changed at all.

feral glade
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you can in bfv too

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whats the distiction?

wet fossil
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Though BF4 seriously holds your hand even if you're 'skilled'. Hence the 130-0 gunships.

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Gotta have a billion flares.

strong quail
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ye but vehicles feel weak in bf5

feral glade
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try hardcore and meet some serious players

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skilled players

wet fossil
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Why the fuck would I try hardcore

feral glade
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to get gud?

strong quail
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lmao

wet fossil
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I am gud you shithead

feral glade
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dont fling words man

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i can see why you dont voice up

wet fossil
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I don't voice up because there's nobody to voice up with

feral glade
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wrong

stoic breach
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hardcore is easy bro

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its easier than core

wet fossil
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In case you haven't noticed, the days of voice lobbies are over

feral glade
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yeah hardcore has a rhytem

molten owl
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ok

quiet sedge
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Tbh I just use voice chat to swear at ppl

molten owl
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,

stoic breach
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i'd rather play core cause thats what the game was designed for, usually the game i paid for

feral glade
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i see a few to the left you blind?

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yeah RAZEN myself

stoic breach
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😩

wet fossil
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How the hell am I supposed to use Discord on console

feral glade
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i dunno im on PC

stoic breach
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hardcore is just pick fast weapon and win

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or pick sniper and camp

strong quail
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^

wet fossil
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Regular gameplay is tested for balance and the entire development is based around it.

stoic breach
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people say they want hardcore in BFV but uh

feral glade
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not really 60% health for one

wet fossil
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Hardcore is "whoop double damage"

stoic breach
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50rnd Type 2A says hello

wet fossil
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And then takes away half your information.

stoic breach
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or 1200rpm i guess

feral glade
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goes both ways you know

strong quail
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bf5 sniping us fogging ez. Almost like csgo

wet fossil
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Not with iron sights.

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Because all the irons in this suck.

molten owl
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You don't need to have perfect english on the internet.

feral glade
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what like lewis gun belly camping?

strong quail
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ok but still literally no drop

feral glade
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i like bfv for the crosshairs

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i like to shoot when im jumping into the fray

deep forge
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I can’t find a single fucking game with al marj

wet fossil
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Literally the only new map I've done is Provence

feral glade
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nice map

main grove
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Look for a game on underground

deep forge
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kinda new

solid hinge
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it wouldve been smart to put al marj and provence in a playlist with both bt and conquest

main grove
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Al Marj always follows underground

solid hinge
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but dice didnt think this one through

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again

deep forge
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naw aerodrome

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bt

solid hinge
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on console its aerodrome before al marj

deep forge
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there’s a aerodrome server

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but my ping gon be high as a mf

solid hinge
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i been trying to play al marj since the update

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and provence on bt

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but i can never get there cause team starts to slightly lose then everyone quits and there only be like 5 people

deep forge
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I played al marj once on bt

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we lost at the last sector

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I went 50-6 tho

icy sluice
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I played it on Conquest and I didn't have that good of an experience, then again I did not have a good team.

feral glade
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its rqandom...best game i played it was 2-0 at the end

solid hinge
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immediately loses first sector
looks at scoreboard
over half of team not spawned in

feral glade
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sounds typical ghosty

solid hinge
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then after losing second sector cause only 3 people was on it, over half of team quits

feral glade
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you know your gonna lose from the beginning some times

molten owl
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half of team are spamming vehicles and then dying 1 second after

stoic breach
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sounds like only in battefield moments

sleek hill
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Anyone interested in making a military simulation unit on battlefield 5? If so dm me on discord to ask questions etc!

feral glade
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some peoppe dont know how to play conquest

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its about dominating flags not kills

stoic breach
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🗿

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its also about kills if you can get a good KPM

feral glade
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the ticket bleed

stoic breach
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kill enemies, prevent them from capping

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ticket bleed only happens if you actually control the flags

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which most of the time either doesnt happen, or one side gets spawn trapped

tribal cairn
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People always hate on tankers because they expect us to push in

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You try rushing an objective in a Sherman

solid hinge
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you know your gonna lose from the beginning some times
@feral glade im mad at the fact this is true

feral glade
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well conquest if you stick around one map just for kills and you lose the majority of maps in the process your tickets bleed faster than you can make up with kills no mater how skilled your team is

tribal cairn
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It ain't happening

feral glade
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eh?...eh

stoic breach
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one map or one flag

feral glade
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one flag

stoic breach
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the thing with conquest is that people only cap flags because thats where enemies are

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which should be obvious

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nobody wants to control flags and would rather push enemy flags because its fun

feral glade
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yea i see that

tribal cairn
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I normally always stay around on A when I'm on the German Team on Provence because they always leave it abandoned

stoic breach
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ticket bleed will happen regardless of what you're doing

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kills bleeds tickets

feral glade
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or B on panzer

stoic breach
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thats what vehicles are for

tribal cairn
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Set up my MG42, and wait for the inevitable enemy solo capper

stoic breach
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farming players to waste enemy tickets

feral glade
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heh

tribal cairn
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Shermans are underpowered on the new maps, especially underspecced ones

stoic breach
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its why modes like breakthrough and frontlines will always be superior

tribal cairn
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But people underestimate the power of a flamethrower

stoic breach
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because you are always playing the objective

tribal cairn
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These assaults fucking rush you like a mindless beast

stoic breach
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you cant accidentally fuck up your own team by not playing "properly"

tribal cairn
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Flamethrower comes in real handy

feral glade
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this is why i dont like snipers in my squad when im squad lead 'cause they wont get off their fat asses and go with me to take flags

stoic breach
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snipers are gonna snipe

crystal blaze
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The pistol flamethrower feels underpowered

feral glade
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@stoic breach very very true

tribal cairn
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Because it is

stoic breach
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it probably is because every gadget is underpowerd

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ye

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thats kind of the thing with letting players do what they want, but forcing them to play as a team

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"battlefield is a sandbox"

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when its really not

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its a skinner box

feral glade
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yeahb that pistol flamer is a joke

tribal cairn
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I knew from the moment I saw it being datamined,

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I knew it was gonna be a piece of shit

icy sluice
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The Type 99 grenade is pretty good

tribal cairn
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Yeah

stoic breach
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letting players play how they want is a good thing, but designing the game so that players doing what they want punishes other players trying to do what they want is just bad design

feral glade
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well if we all were in clans and we always played scrims it would be a different game entirely

brave garnet
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The shaped charge is fun to use

stoic breach
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PTFO should always be fun, because the objective should be to have fun, and players shouldnt be able to ruin eachother by not sharing a globally unified mind

quiet sedge
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I mean it's a small portable flamethrower it's never gonna be as powerful as a proper one

brave garnet
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Amd the Kampfpistole is also awsome

stoic breach
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yeah thats the problem with BFV though

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it was designed for clan scrims and not for randoms

feral glade
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all bf games are

tribal cairn
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You know, I love using the lunge mine because the enemy just doesn't expect a suicidal support to come out of the grass ready to fucking die

quiet sedge
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Ngl but the demolition charge and firecrackers seem shit

stoic breach
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nah specifically BFV

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sure the other games work well with clans but you didnt need to be constantly communicating with teammates to play well

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Especially something like BF1

feral glade
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dice was pissed when bf42 was released and players took flags and moved on leaving them open

stoic breach
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that is impossible to avoid in a gamemode like conquest

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literally impossible

brave garnet
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I have firecrackers as my grenades on everything

stoic breach
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flag defence in giant maps is inherently boring

feral glade
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of course it is\

stoic breach
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zerg and backcap is what conquest is for

feral glade
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for the movers and groovers

tribal cairn
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It's boring being an MMG defending a point alone, but it's essential

stoic breach
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yeah, which shouldnt be ignored

feral glade
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but the snipers and guys with mines like to defend

stoic breach
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yeah, if its a sandbox, then everyone should be able to use their strategies and play and have fun

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again, why breakthrough and frontlines are such good modes

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everyone can do anything and play towards the goal

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but you arent punshing teammates by not doing the same thing that they're doing

icy sluice
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so the M3 Infrared allows you to see through Sandstorms and Snowstorms

feral glade
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in a perfect world...sigh

stoic breach
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its entirely up to the devs to create a game that works out

tribal cairn
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Yep

feral glade
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true

crystal blaze
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Somehow i can use the welrod better than the model 27

feral glade
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you like that gun?

stoic breach
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and so far they've shown that they have done it, and forgotten how to do it again

tribal cairn
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Model 27 is basically a sniper's backup sniper

feral glade
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is it better than the grease gun?

stoic breach
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still would've been sick to see the welrod be a 10m bodyshot kill

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obrez v2

echo turtle
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The welgun?

feral glade
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ueah

crystal blaze
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Isnt the welgun just the mab 38 with a bigger mag

feral glade
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yeah*

stoic breach
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welgun is a slightly better Sten

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wait

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does welgun still have light bolt?

crystal blaze
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I dont think so

feral glade
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i liked the mab at first

stoic breach
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wait what

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WHAT

feral glade
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so the greaser is better?

stoic breach
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yes

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grease gun is better

feral glade
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oh okay

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thanks

stoic breach
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wait

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mab is good

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grease gun better than welgun tho

feral glade
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yeah it was

tribal cairn
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I dunno

feral glade
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good to know

crystal blaze
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Welgun has good default hipfire

tribal cairn
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Grease's recoil pattern is too jumpy for my tastes

feral glade
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you gotta feather it

lofty valley
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Should I play bf1

stoic breach
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grease gun gets 3BTK bodyshot

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at 450rpm

feral glade
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not bad

stoic breach
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vs welgun 4BTK at what is it

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560rpm

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im assuming

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havent checked the stats

tribal cairn
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Yeah, but I'm a kind of keep your distance kind of guy

stoic breach
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grease gun also is a really good headshot weapon

feral glade
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i thought it was even faster like a compromise from the 2a

tribal cairn
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It ain't much of a medium range weapon

feral glade
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yeah the greaser is handy at ranges too

tribal cairn
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With that recoil anyway

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I've tried

feral glade
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well its handy not special

tribal cairn
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I can't hit shit with it

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I'm better off with a pistol

feral glade
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well bfv is about getting iused to your weapon of choice

stoic breach
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actually the grease gun might even straight up kill faster than the Type 2A after a certain range

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i need to check though

feral glade
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no your right

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2a ia shit at range

stoic breach
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unless with headshots which the Type 2A technically would be better with

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yeah

crystal blaze
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Is there anything special about the johnson stats

tribal cairn
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I almost forgot that the 2A even exists

fluid idol
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Type 2a

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Oh god

stoic breach
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lol

feral glade
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they nerfed the fuck outta the 2a...i got used to its left firing diviation...noe the deviation is random

stoic breach
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thats better though

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controllable recoil for that gun is good but controllable spread really isnt

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that gun doesnt need alot of vertical recoil to be balanced

feral glade
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well the 2a is your primary commando weapon if used as intended...its not a campers toy

solid hinge
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welgun is an odd one

stoic breach
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yeah

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ok wait

solid hinge
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EMP variant

stoic breach
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does the welgun have light bolt

tribal cairn
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Welgun is basically Sten but EMP

solid hinge
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It looks like a less accurate lower recoil emp

feral glade
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ithought it was highly accurate

tribal cairn
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It is

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Very accurate in fact

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I've consistently gotten longer range kills with it

stoic breach
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can someone check the specs of the welgun for me

tribal cairn
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No light bolt

feral glade
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im gonna have to at leasdt try it...i get lucky when i use a new weapon for some reason

stoic breach
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what the fuck

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bro

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THEY REMOVED LIGHT BOLT

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WHY

storm marlin
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Fighting in the town with 64 players on Provence is so much fun

feral glade
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yeah man

stoic breach
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thats so shit

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actually garbage

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removing light bolt from the welgun

storm marlin
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Makes me realize battlefield v wasted potential

stoic breach
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it was almost a worthwhile weapon

tribal cairn
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I love it when 5 mindless drones run down the alleyway towards A in front of my MG42

storm marlin
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Nah my last round was at in the town and a bunch of tanks were pushing forward

stoic breach
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man i still wish the MMGs were buffed

feral glade
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heh-heh you hurt um much eh EH?

storm marlin
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No camping mgs

stoic breach
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imagine MG42 but its a viable weapon

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and not a meme

tribal cairn
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It is a viable weapon?

tight rain
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The mg42 is fun in closer quarters

stoic breach
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you can lie down with any weapon and get kills

feral glade
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it kicks like a mule though

tribal cairn
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I'm crouching in a window

stoic breach
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its legitimately not that good

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just spray and pray high RPM meme

tribal cairn
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About 50 feet off the ground

stoic breach
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interesting

deep forge
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everyone’s using the welgun

tribal cairn
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So your point being?

feral glade
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any of those kinda weapons are good in the right hands...you gotta feather them

deep forge
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welrod is better

stoic breach
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you have to stop moving to use it properly

tribal cairn
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It's called positioning

feral glade
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cant just blast full auto

stoic breach
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not positioning

open totem
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Servers down?

stoic breach
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you can "position" with any weapon and get kills

deep forge
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No

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they’re up

feral glade
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its called belly camping?

stoic breach
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MMG feathering

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yuck

tribal cairn
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But you see, MMGs are in a special place,

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They are intended

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For positioning

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Actual

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Proper

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Positioning

feral glade
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cant be nervois with the MMgs

tribal cairn
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To be effective

stoic breach
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lol positionfield

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you can do that with any gun

feral glade
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^

tribal cairn
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Not lay down in a corner like a brain dead fucking sewer rat

stoic breach
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and you can also use other guns while standing

feral glade
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but i see Ehs point

stoic breach
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so do i

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i understand what you're saying

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but despite that

quiet sedge
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Problem with positioning is your dead meat for snipers

feral glade
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true that

tribal cairn
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Church tower is a wonderful thing, for that reason alone

tight rain
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Snipers are surprisingly not often an issue

tribal cairn
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Punch out only one window,

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Leave all the others in

feral glade
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once you spotted in the tower yopu as good as dead

tribal cairn
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They have no visual unless directly in front of you

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Specifically the alleyway windows

quiet sedge
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As soon as you start shooting your muzzle flash gives you away and you're dead

feral glade
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be nice if you had claymores

tribal cairn
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The ladder is loud

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I can hear them coming up easy

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And I do mean loud

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It's louder than a fucking gunshot

feral glade
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eventually your dead...meanwhile as your defending your position everyone else is capping

solid hinge
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Planes are OP
-people who never tried to pilot a plane before

tight rain
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Yeah the ladders are really loud

stoic breach
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The thing with the whole MMG "positioning" thing is that you need to use the bipod to make them usable

tribal cairn
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But that's the thing

quiet sedge
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Planes used to be op but AA is bs now

stoic breach
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whereas other weapons start usable already

tribal cairn
#

If I abandon it,

feral glade
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loud laders can be a great diversion

tribal cairn
#

That is another point and less tickets for us

stoic breach
#

its an inherent imbalance

tribal cairn
#

Better to save what objectives you can

stoic breach
#

finding a spot to sit and get players with can be done with the LMGs as well, and to greater effect because you can re-adjust your position faster than with an MMG

solid hinge
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I mean youre a dude who has 30kg worth of explosives in your back, ladders are gonna be loud for sure

feral glade
#

tickets for kills verses ticket bleed for caping majority of flags....whats the outcome?

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in conquest anyway

tribal cairn
#

Get plenty of kills if they have a bone to pick with you

stoic breach
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If MMGs didnt have the big mag they would suck, because they definitely dont have the damage

quiet sedge
#

Today for me, an AA tank held the entire church obj by itself against a staghound and half our team, those AA rounds are a 1 hit kill on Infantry its bs

tribal cairn
#

Which majority of my kills would

stoic breach
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or the mobility

feral glade
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you would think they would thats why a lot of new palyers choose the MMGs

quiet sedge
#

Tbf the staghound driver was incompetent af

solid hinge
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@quiet sedge call peter muller to take it down

feral glade
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@quiet sedge yeah but they are thin skinned

solid hinge
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What AA tank?

stoic breach
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Like legit, I actually want MMGs to be better than they currently are, thats why im bringing this stuff up

quiet sedge
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Staghound driver would take a single shot and flee

stoic breach
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Stuff like letting MMGs be used without the bipod so you can be more flexible with them

solid hinge
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@stoic breach no

stoic breach
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get up and down faster and keep shooting

feral glade
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staghounds are fast they should be moving at all times

tribal cairn
#

I will agree as an MMG Church goer, that they would need a slight buff,

solid hinge
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MMGs are suppose to defend objectives

tribal cairn
#

Not a major one,

feral glade
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circling the capture point

tribal cairn
#

But bipods need work

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The bipod placement is still shit

stoic breach
#

Nah i wouldnt make them like 3BTK or any dumb shit like that

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yeah

solid hinge
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tfw the 30 mag MMG still has the increased vrec on initial shots

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Maybe slightly increase the damage

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By 1

stoic breach
#

If they didnt need the bipod, there wouldnt be so much of a penalty on them

quiet sedge
#

I would have loved a d day map simply because MMGs would be king

solid hinge
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Yeh

stoic breach
#

standing ADS for MMGs would actually improve the way you manage the bipod as well

tribal cairn
#

I say increase the bullet damage drop off point

stoic breach
#

yeah

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MMGs should suck in close range and be good at long range

tribal cairn
#

10BTK at what would be a medium-ish range is horseshit

stoic breach
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With the MG42 being the intermediary between mid and long range

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yeah

quiet sedge
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The MMG ads thing is really stupid imo

stoic breach
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based on 5.0 TTK, MMGs should be like 4-5BTK with a slow ADS speed, and horrible hipfire

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maybe even a 50ms firing delay or something

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pretty much anything to make it unsable in CQB

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cause they're long range automatics by design, but suck at long range

uneven hollow
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MG42/34 inferred/night vision

stoic breach
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unironically would be fun lol

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but yeah

tribal cairn
#

Now, I want to make this clear,

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MMGs should have longer range sights

stoic breach
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Every MMG would be better off being 4-5BTK, with automatic incendiary damage

tribal cairn
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And I do mean should

stoic breach
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yeah

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they definitely should be able to use 2x and 3x

tribal cairn
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Our iron sights and AA sights are not ideal for the ranges we would normally use them at

stoic breach
#

yeah

quiet sedge
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LMG used to be king in bf4, like you had LMGs that could out shoot the AEK and still be good at medium to long ranges

stoic breach
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yea

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but yeah, MMGs should definitely be like 4-5BTK as well

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Except MG42

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That one should be 1200rpm by default, with no light bolt, and 5-5BTK probably

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maybe 5-6

deep forge
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I’m going to al marj...if I’m defending imma be big mad ong

tribal cairn
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900rpm is still pretty decent

stoic breach
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cause the spread on the MG42 would fuck it up at long range anyways

deep forge
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FUCK IM DEFENDING

feral glade
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there should be a distinctive class of long range MMgs...but as far as i see it MMGs are supressive weapons

stoic breach
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900rpm is good, but 1200rpm sets it apart from the 1922

crystal blaze
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Is there any reason to use the sjogren over the m1897

tribal cairn
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True,

quiet sedge
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Ngl but I hate the weapon upgrade system, like if two people are fighting with the same weapon it should come down to skill not some upgrade that increases firing rate etc

stoic breach
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yeah suppression is key for MMGs, thats why they need to be good at range

tribal cairn
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Keep the 250 mag for 1200rpm as well

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It eats through bullets like hell

stoic breach
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yea 250rnd mag with 1200rpm wouldnt be as strong as you'd think

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so yea

tribal cairn
#

The recoil would make you miss the majority of the shots anyway

stoic breach
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yeah

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and reverse spread could probably also be adjusted as well

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MG42 and S2200 as intermediary weapons between LMGs and MMGs

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would be good

tribal cairn
#

MG42 is very good at suppressing chokepoints due to its sheer output

stoic breach
#

yeah

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suppression is actually good enough for area denial already

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and scaring enemies into making mistakes is just as good as outright killing them

quiet sedge
#

Imagine an mg42 on op locker

tribal cairn
#

It keeps their heads in cover

stoic breach
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MG42 on op locker would actually be too strong because alot of the guns in BF4 are 5BTK

tribal cairn
#

Unless they're a brave idiot

stoic breach
#

yeah

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suppression also definitely needs a buff/rework as well

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suppression spotting is a good system though

quiet sedge
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Problem I find with MG42 at range is, most assault guns are ridiculous at range and will kill you

stoic breach
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well thats probably a good thing

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MG42 ideally should suck at range

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And be only really good at mid range

tribal cairn
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MG42s should be used in urban combat, at a medium-ish range chokepoint

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Ideally

stoic breach
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yeah

dense bone
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43-17 first game and first game with new m3 infared on mercury

stoic breach
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which is fine if the other MMGs are better than the MG42

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lol nice nyphon

dense bone
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i hate the sight though

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its fucking ugly

stoic breach
#

but yeah, MG42 as an idiot-trap weapon would be fine

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hahaha yeah

tribal cairn
#

You can agree though,

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A skilled MG42 player is fucking terrifying

stoic breach
#

yeah

tribal cairn
#

Especially if they know the map

stoic breach
#

would be even better if the MMGs were improved but yeah definitely

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skilled player with anything is scary

tribal cairn
#

Yeah

stoic breach
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its also worth designing your game so that you know that you're about to die or are being suppressed

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MMGs should be scary to get suppressed by

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thats how you get dynamic changes in strategy in gunfights

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by having to play around types of players

tribal cairn
#

I remember back in BF1 where Snipers were scary as all hell to face

stoic breach
#

yeah

tribal cairn
#

You see that scope glare, you are running for cover

stoic breach
#

yeah

#

just the whole idea of information

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BFV lacking proper player information is such a massive detriment

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its not about players aiming at red triangles, its about players seeing red triangles and knowing how to react in that situation

tribal cairn
#

But yeah, suppression should be a more looked at topic

stoic breach
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if i see a dude with a shotgun, it doesnt matter if hes spotted, im not fucking with that guy

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yeah

tribal cairn
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I want people to know that the smoke won't save them

dense bone
#

this update for any other pc players make the gameplay stuttery?

solid hinge
#

people always grill on type 2a users for one framing them when its worse with shotgunners

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type 2a users can be beat

quiet sedge
#

A panzer 4 just shot me through a Bush wtf

tribal cairn
#

Because it's a bush

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If my arm can go through it,

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A chunk of metal the size of my forearm can as well

stoic breach
#

yeah

quiet sedge
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How can it see me tho

stoic breach
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Type 2A is literally just an idiot trap accessibility weapon

uneven hollow
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Quick

stoic breach
#

but thats important for game balance

uneven hollow
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Did the bush speak Japanese

solid hinge
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its not hard to see someone in bushes

stoic breach
quiet sedge
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I lit couldnt see the tank

stoic breach
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holy shit

solid hinge
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i see peoples head/legs sticking out all the time

stoic breach
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imagine if the M3 carbine could see through smoke, but it had scope glint

quiet sedge
#

It was a big thick Bush and I was prone in a dip

stoic breach
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so you cant camp with it

uneven hollow
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Because they don’t know how to hide in said bush

solid hinge
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if i pay attention to smth, u can see a person in it

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i had to learn to pay attention to bushes and rubble to discern if theres a person in it or not

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idk if discern is the word

uneven hollow
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Lucky you can’t hide in trees

analog mist
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I think I'm just going to give up on the new planes.

quiet sedge
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I wasnt in the bush I was on the other side in a ditch, you cant even see through the bush

uneven hollow
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You can but it’s very smoll

tribal cairn
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Third person can also help

uneven hollow
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Very very smol view

tribal cairn
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Or they saw a glimpse of you before you went into hiding

analog mist
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Either I have to wait an hour for the maps/teams to rotate so I can actually be on the US team, or the server empties out.

uneven hollow
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Or his team mate helped him out

stoic breach
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Mateship

uneven hollow
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Mateship is magic

stoic breach
uneven hollow
tribal cairn
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I think god just shot himself

stoic breach
#

Self destruction

tribal cairn
#

Imagine life,

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But as a game of conquest

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Then again, it is

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A never ending cycle of chaos and misery

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You think the job is complete,

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You walk away for one second,

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BAM, Life is throwing it back

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Life hates me

stoic breach
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Yes

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Actually based theory

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Life = Battlefield conquest

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Constant chaos and misery

tribal cairn
#

Turns out god was only the admin

stoic breach
frigid geode
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Should i buy the high tide, oni, island hopper or an elite

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If i was to get an elite I'd get the leaked one

solid hinge
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Or you can save for when the new cosmetics release on Tuesday

frigid geode
#

Actually yeah I'll do that

solid hinge
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i got 800 boins

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so close

frigid geode
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I got like 5k

solid hinge
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wut

frigid geode
#

Saving for some things

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Just don't know what to be atm

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Buy*

solid hinge
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1000 boins is like 10 dollars

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and u got 5k

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rich man

frigid geode
#

Yes

solid hinge
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u spent 50 dollars on boins

fossil heron
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I bought that starter pack that came with 3k boins

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It was a BUNCH of cosmetics +3k boins for 30 bucks

solid hinge
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Amateurs

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no u

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Why waste that much money on boins

fossil heron
#

Cost as much as a pizza

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Meal for 2 or a funny hat in BF?

solid hinge
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the pizza don't get delayed as much as bfv

fossil heron
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Idk

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My pizza place are slackers

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The pizza is goood tho

solid hinge
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Mine is chill

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what pizza cost yall 30 dollars

fossil heron
#

Good pizza

solid hinge
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better solve hunger for 2 weeks

fossil heron
#

I live in Chicago btw

solid hinge
#

thats a months worth of ramen noodle

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I forgot America has different currency

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yall should adopt it

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No

coral fiber
#

Everything about the Mustang is perfect to me
The Maneuverability
Speed
Armament
Bullet Convergence
The most sexiest engine roar in the game

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It honestly feels good

solid hinge
#

if i enjoyed piloting id prob agree

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I don't think I tried it yet

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I tried the A20 bomber tho

coral fiber
#

A20 is OP af

solid hinge
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Its fast concidering its a bomber

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I even crashed into an enemy plane and lived

#

They just face planted the bridge on twisted steel

#

is the gun u get as a pilot a sten as well

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Yeah

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just to irritate any pilot mains, im gonna get in a plane and bail it

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if im stuck with a sten, worth it

#

That irritates me

#

it irritates me too

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wasting vehicles

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Just seeing it go to waste makes me mad

#

It was worst in bf4 tho

#

Especially golmud railway

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i used to do it ngl

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i was a shit eating grin tween tho

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in my defense

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I guess not much changed then

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i dont do it anymore

#

but i want to now, to irritate the people who never spawn in game

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camping vehicle spawn til a vehicle becomes available

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tired of over half my team not being spawned in waiting for a plane or a tank

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Have you tried welrod yet

#

ye

dense bone
#

welgun for medic seems pretty solid

solid hinge
#

Yeah but welrod is better

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i like welgun

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Welgun and 2a are the new cheese rn

dense bone
#

is it welrod?

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whatever the smg is

solid hinge
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i can only get kills with welrod if im sneaking up on someone camping

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Welgun is medic smg and welrod is the pistol

dense bone
#

yea so welgun seems good

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i dont see how it is 2a cheese

solid hinge
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people only irritated with it rn cause everyone is using it

dense bone
#

sounds like 2a

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a ton of medics is just too good

solid hinge
#

Even I'm good with it

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I struggle with guns everyone else finds good except welgun

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out of all the new guns, welgun is the only new gun i like

analog mist
#

Can someone explain the purpose of the x4 .50 cals for the greyhound

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Because I'm not getting it.

#

They suck for planes.

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They suck for people.

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They don't even scratch transports.

solid hinge
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Welgun has OP starting hipfire

#

Welgun also reminds me of UMP-9 from bf4 for some reason

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I think it's the way I use it but idk

#

does anyone like the new sniper

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K31?

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ye

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It's alright

#

its weird

#

Reminds me of bf1 sniping

quiet sedge
#

I hate the scope on the side

solid hinge
#

The iron sights are useless

#

how do u use the iron sights

quiet sedge
#

And another dead server only 7 people on each team on panzerstorm is no fun

feral bone
#

ive used once

solid hinge
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It has a 3x scope on the side so there is no point in using the iron sights

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and arent all irons in thie game useless

feral bone
#

yeah

solid hinge
#

Hold triangle to switch to the iron sights

feral bone
#

not really

quiet sedge
#

Iron sites mean you dont need to zoom out to pull the bolt back

feral bone
#

lee enfield iron sight is good, stg,

solid hinge
#

Some weapons have nice iron sights

#

Some are useless

quiet sedge
#

M1 Garand has sexy iron sights to go with the sexy ping

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There are 2 full servers left on EU with the new maps

solid hinge
#

M1941 Johnson is an improvement on the m1 garand except iron sights

quiet sedge
#

All the rest have 15 players max

feral bone
#

i understand the whole point of trying to balance snipers, but if i hit you square in the heart with a kar98 from 2 meters, you should die.

quiet sedge
#

The Johnson doesnt have the moistening ping

solid hinge
#

That's a good thing

feral bone
#

johnson is under powered tbh

quiet sedge
#

The ping is the sexiest thing about this game

solid hinge
#

People won't know when you are out of ammo

quiet sedge
#

If I hear someone ping I'm gonna pull back a moment and give them a chance for a fair fight

hollow igloo
#

But Johnson don’t get no rifle grenades

feral bone
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lol

hollow igloo
#

Those rifle grenades are so fun to use

solid hinge
#

You have a grenade launcher gadget for a reason

hollow igloo
#

But it’s not a rifle grenade

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Plus I like to run a launcher and dynamite

solid hinge
#

I found bayonet more useful compared to rifle grenade

feral bone
#

anyone done anything with the type 99 AT grenades? i feel like you should be able to throw them farther.

hollow igloo
#

I barely bayonet because of how janky and easy it is to counter

feral bone
#

tryna sneak up on a m8 is not easy

solid hinge
#

The type AT grenade are good

#

Combined with shaped charge

feral bone
#

hmm

hollow igloo
#

But ya know what’s better

#

Type 2a

#

Because

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Brttttttt

feral bone
#

icky

quiet sedge
#

Uhhh why is every game so one sided we are like 50 lives in and we dont hold a single obj

feral bone
#

yes

solid hinge
#

Because you are all shit

feral bone
#

yes

solid hinge
#

every game is like that cause of team balance

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people say it doesnt work/its missing, but its doing exactly what its supposed to do

feral bone
#

also why did they add the p51 k AND p51d? only diffrence was the engine company. No real weapon diffrence. Should of taken out the p51k for a b-29. that would be so fun

solid hinge
#

puts mostly good people against mostly bad people, thats how it supposed to be

quiet sedge
#

Uh I get killed by a tiger who blew a door up nowhere near me but it still kills me

feral bone
#

welcome to battlefield

solid hinge
#

Imagine blowing up a door and the door smacks into The enemy killing them

feral bone
quiet sedge
#

Door didnt smack me

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It got shredded

solid hinge
#

No I just want that to be a feature

#

I don't know how you died

#

when u lose the entire game in 5 min

#

Maby there is a spec for extra splash damage

feral bone
#

i like for the next year we just gonna be debating whether bad company 3, or battlefield 6 (modern { hopefully desert storm} combat)

solid hinge
#

Throw bad company in the bin

#

Pretty sure DICE lost most of the people who worked on the old bad company games

coral fiber
#

Joins and slays kids in a Mustang

#

10 mins later

solid hinge
#

Reminds me of bf4

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whats the btk for the m3

icy sluice
#

fast

solid hinge
#

3

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4-5 long range

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i cant tell

icy sluice
#

Two Headshots to kill and it feels like it's flat

solid hinge
#

Eaait

#

Wait

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Which m3

#

infra red

#

4-5 bodyshot

#

2-3 headshot

#

its shit

#

I havnt used too much

#

I played like 5 mins of aerodrome with it

#

i thought it was supposed to see through smoke

#

Yeah

#

Turns out itss not infra red

#

we have been hoodwinked, bamboozled, ran a muck, led astray, and flat out deceived

#

It's just like bf4 FLIR scope

#

Absolutely useless shit

#

Is being top 1% pilot good

#

Yeah

feral bone
#

im in like top 98%

solid hinge
#

bruh the m3 feels weaker than fucking pistol

#

No

#

Pistols take 1 extra shot at slower rate of fire

#

Considering the fact that i spend most of the time destroying planes rather than killing people in the ground

coral fiber
#

0.1%

solid hinge
#

Well youre an ace

#

If it has faster fire rate its an extra 2-3 shots

#

its still weak

#

I don't think it is

feral bone
#

its weak

solid hinge
#

It's basically m1a1 with a big ass scope

feral bone
#

whats with that welrod pistol thing

solid hinge
#

What about it

quiet sedge
#

0-463 why is providence such an unbalanced map

feral bone
#

is it like the liberator?

solid hinge
#

No

feral bone
#

yes!!!!! @quiet sedge

solid hinge
#

It's like a suppressed obrez

feral bone
#

lol

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i hate providence so much

#

maybe im biased because i enjoy planes

#

buttt

quiet sedge
#

The tiger literally destroys everything out in the open part of the map

feral bone
#

has such good range

#

the puma is literally made out of plastic

quiet sedge
#

Ik I love boom boom sticking the pumas

feral bone
#

yes

solid hinge
#

i cant get a single kill lately

#

nothing but 80+ assist

#

You wanna see something really dodgy

#

Go to stats and look for slappystrain

proud ore
#

whats sus about a 3 k/d? lol

tribal cairn
#

That is dodgy

solid hinge
#

226 killstreak

proud ore
#

I have a 6.3 k/d, a 3 k/d is literally not suspicious

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226 killstreak however

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Is johnson gun good ?

proud ore
#

No

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proud ore
#

the johnson is the worst SAR in the game

solid hinge
#

It is good with a 3x scope

proud ore
#

by far

solid hinge
#

none of the new guns good

#

except for welgun

proud ore
#

welgun is a worse EMP

#

and ZK outlcasses it

wheat badge
#

Welgun is good

solid hinge
#

welgun is decent

proud ore
#

it still gets outclassed

solid hinge
#

but its a hella good gun compared to all the other new guns

proud ore
#

yeah its one of the better one added

wheat badge
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I liked the puma car

solid hinge
#

Sjögren shotgun is a good new weapon

wheat badge
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Puma its good when use 50mm

solid hinge
#

bruh wtf

wheat badge
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Its not 50 till lvl3

solid hinge
#

this fucking noob got squadlead cause guy left

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then proceeds to kick me

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i love this community

wheat badge
#

What happened

solid hinge
#

just that

wheat badge
#

Report him

solid hinge
#

then he locked it lmao

wheat badge
#

WTF

solid hinge
#

bottom of the leaderboard having ass

#

i'll stay in a squad of one i guess

wheat badge
#

I hate those fuckin noobs

#

Or everyone kick for no reason

solid hinge
#

Maby they want it to be friends only

raw orbit
#

update messed up the colours on my favourite outfit Sadge

solid hinge
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@solid hinge he got all points from your team and he kicked everyone and locked up

echo turtle
#

they have no friends

solid hinge
#

How would you know

#

go look at his stats

wheat badge
#

😂

solid hinge
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@raw orbit same, it also removed outfits of mine as a whole

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Mine are all fine

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@solid hinge are you pro ?

raw orbit
#

the colour of the architect top is now slightly mismatched from the cap so 😦

solid hinge
#

no

proud ore
wheat badge
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Anyone is pro here ?

#

🤯

winter edge
#

good bye guys

solid hinge
#

im not pro but im not in the bottom 15 percent of players like penguin

wheat badge
#

😂😂😂😂

solid hinge
#

I'm just average

winter edge
#

see you next life

wheat badge
#

You going to 🔪?

winter edge
#

no

proud ore
#

being in the bottom 15% of BF players is actually really hard

winter edge
#

medicines xd

solid hinge
#

People complain about bfv having infinite death glitch every once in a whike but real life always has it when you die

#

@proud ore it is but lots manage to do it

echo turtle
#

watch this pro gamer move

solid hinge
#

thats what i call immersion

echo turtle
#

bout to be in the bottom 1%

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#

@solid hinge who is the guy in your profile pic ?

solid hinge
#

edp

prime pine
#

CHAUCHAT

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What is edp

solid hinge
#

Chauchat needs a small bufd

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Buff

prime pine
#

In what

echo turtle
#

chauchat has a great empty reload

solid hinge
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I don't know it felt better in bf1 compared to bfv but I don't know what it was

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@wheat badge i cant say it or i'll get banned

prime pine
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I've given up recoil buffer for fast reload.... night and say difference

proud ore
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recoil buffer isnt needed

solid hinge
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I feel like I need the recoil specs

prime pine
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Right in bf1 it had inverted recoil and 360 rpm

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@solid hinge say in dm

prime pine
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Most you need is recoil buffer

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Scope makes the chauchat even more clunky

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Not buffer. I mean ported barrel

solid hinge
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The horizontal recoil is harsh

prime pine
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Very

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Its a heavy mg

solid hinge
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The bipod feels like it does nothing aswell

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I was playing underground in the first sector defending so I used the bipod from a side window but didn't really notice a difference

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Imagine comparing BF1 with fortnite weirdChamp

solid hinge
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Who

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Nvm

solid hinge
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I don't get how you could compare them

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i hate recons all over again

echo turtle
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one's a fps and the other is a tps

stuck wigeon
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DAE get a game crash everytime scoping into M3? @indigo sedge

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@solid hinge like who is a better game

solid hinge
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Well I think its obvious

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@solid hinge but, imagine people play fortnite more than BF1 or COD because its for free and they buy skins in fortnite 🤡

solid hinge
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Fortnite has to fill the servers with AI and removed skill based matchmaking to make finding a match easier

echo turtle
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people do play fortnite battle royale because of the lack of an entry cost

solid hinge
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It died so much

echo turtle
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that does not mean it's better than cod or bf1

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because warzone is free

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Playing a game because its free and pay for skins 🤡🤡

solid hinge
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Warzone is better

stuck wigeon
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HELP ME PLEASE

echo turtle
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there's nothing wrong for dropping cash on a game you like

solid hinge
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Chubs

stuck wigeon
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Game crashes from thermal scope

solid hinge
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I think it could be your pc

stuck wigeon
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no its fine except for that, I get 144fps on ultra

proud ore
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its prob a glitch

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cant do anything about it

stuck wigeon
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like the m next to the reticle

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lol

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@echo turtle i dont mean the wrong is dropping money , the wrong is playing because its free and pay for something in it

stuck wigeon
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7 nation army music starts

echo turtle
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people do that with LoL and Csgo

deep forge
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Provence on bt is fun

solid hinge
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CSGO never use to be free tho

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Csgo is much better than fortnite

echo turtle
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it's optional to buy cosmetics and the battlepass

deep forge
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it would be cooler if the enemy’s pushed through the first sector

echo turtle
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in any game that is free

solid hinge
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Most people playing CSGO are the people who purchased the game

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@solid hinge 😂

echo turtle
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no

solid hinge
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Those who got it free usually quit within a week

echo turtle
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i bought it and i don't even touch it

proud ore
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Provence in general isn't a good map outside of the town. The map is too flat, and has too many tanks. You can barely move without getting mapped by a tank