thanks EA
#battlefield-legacy-titles
brave coral
wow guys did you hear that everyone should go play bf1 bc this random guy on discord said so
solid hinge
I really hope they continue support to this game
brave coral
@solid hinge it would be nice, but i really wouldn’t get your hopes up too high
like i’m generally optimistic but also realistically i don’t see it happening past maybe we get like some more guns and stuff
upper vault
If they didn’t support SWBF2, even though 82k people want support, then they won’t do it for 3k people for BFV.
upper vault
Star Wars battlefront 2
solid hinge
The game is already complete so
quiet sedge
Wait is there actually an auto balancer in bfv? Because I just played a match were the enemy had 10 less than us the entire time
upper vault
82000 people wanted paid continued support
The game wasn’t expected to finish at scarif
People wanted ashoka for example
I wanted to see Sullust,
quiet sedge
I want an order 66 mode in bf2
upper vault
The game support was ended for BF6, so I hope BF6 is a really great game
solid hinge
Well they should atleast add the sherman jumbo or give the churchill to the americans
upper vault
The Americans should just get the Pershing
solid hinge
So it can compete with the tiger
wispy cloak
Anyone else have their game freeze after backing out of a match?
solid hinge
Jumbo and churchill are easier to add
upper vault
We need the Pershing dice
obsidian mason
wow air game play is so unenjoyable with these broken AA
solid hinge
Yeah
upper vault
They can add Pershing, they chose not to add Pershing
solid hinge
There is no reward when playing as fighter
upper vault
They have the capability to add content, but they chose to focus on BF6
solid hinge
Adding new vehicles is hard, especially due to this quarentine
quiet sedge
Yay the server I was on just died, half our team was just in tanks
3 people in the church in providence and that's it
upper vault
There’s several unreleased vehicles in the files, like the Elefant tank for example.
shy badger
They can also just remove the tiger from the US vs GER maps
solid hinge
@upper vault yeah they could use those vehicles too
quiet sedge
Or limit the number of tigers available
upper vault
But the Tiger is pretty cool tbh
solid hinge
@shy badger no
shy badger
Yea but unbalanced af
upper vault
Or yeah, limit the number of tiger
solid hinge
Those maps take place after 1942
shy badger
There's no churchil to combat it
upper vault
Or just add a tank destroyer
solid hinge
Or just add the Churchill
quiet sedge
Isnt there supposed to be a new Libya map?
solid hinge
From the brits
shy badger
To the US?
tribal cairn
Well I say, if we get a German TD,
solid hinge
Yes
shy badger
Did they use churchills
tribal cairn
It will be the Nashorn
upper vault
That would be a mix up of factions though
tribal cairn
Elefant sounds nice,
upper vault
It’s not allies vs Germany anymore, it’s US vs Germany
tribal cairn
But Nashorn is pretty good also
solid hinge
No, but they fought alongside in the war
solid hinge
Or the jumbo but people can confuse it with a sherman
Bro WTF I knew that BFV sucks in historical accuracy, but this? This has gotten out of hand, you can play as a marine in Poland.
upper vault
Imagine if we could use the bombers on the pacific maps with Japanese bombers
uneven hollow
There’s landships
obsidian mason
D3A Val could be a good addition basically japanese stuka
uneven hollow
analog mist
You know what I miss? Being able to tell where in North America a server is.
I keep getting thrown into the west coast.
By the looks of my 100ms latency.
solid hinge
Server browser
dense bone
@solid hinge when was bfv billed as historicaly accurate?
upper vault
The game feels incomplete for some reason
analog mist
Spoilers, North American servers are just labelled as North America.
See original complaint.
dense bone
@analog mist use server broswer
shy badger
BFV has 22 maps, 69 guns, and 44 vehicles
solid hinge
See the ping icon
shy badger
If that's unfinished then you have some high standards
obsidian mason
honestly even if this rather enthusiastic mood in the community right now, I can't get to complete a single game
dense bone
BFV has 22 maps, 69 guns, and 44 vehicles
@shy badger that sounds pretty good considering all of that was the price of base game
obsidian mason
There is just too many things that bogs me down
shy badger
It sounds pretty good period
dense bone
yea thats true
uneven hollow
True 22 maps for 69 guns and 44 vehicles for the price of $20
solid hinge
@shy badger not enough factions
obsidian mason
half the map are crap
shy badger
4 factions?
solid hinge
Marita is shit
upper vault
It’s not the factions
dense bone
factions are basically skins...
upper vault
It’s also the balancing
solid hinge
@dense bone When a game produces a game that is biased in the past, they should at least try to make it accurate.
analog mist
@obsidian mason the lack of friends still playing is what is doing it for me.
dense bone
lets stop treating them as more
analog mist
No one wants to come back.
analog mist
These are people I've played with for over a decade.
dense bone
@solid hinge its a game first and foremost, and its inspired by ww2 at most
main grove
BF1 factions were all just reskins
obsidian mason
Devastation and rotterdam are crap map tbh only fun for cod run and gun guys
main grove
Literally
obsidian mason
devastation has one of the worst player visibility as well
main grove
BFV was the first game in a while to make factions have asymmetric vehicles
dense bone
the only meaningful thing to a game that comes from "adding factions" is new maps and weapons...
obsidian mason
the best maps are the pacific one provence feels pretty good as well
solid hinge
rotter isnt run and gun its just crap. devastation is more cod like yes i enjoy it. less op tnaks
The only good maps we got after launch where: panzerstorm, pacific maps, al sundan and provence
@dense bone The game is not its own timeline, its actually set in historical events.
dense bone
all maps are so big that they at least have 1 area that is fun
obsidian mason
whats the name of the map with blue beeches ?
dense bone
@solid hinge its a game...
shy badger
mercury @obsidian mason
solid hinge
Marita is basically tropical narvik
obsidian mason
yea good map
dense bone
all i have to say to negate any of your "its not 100% accurate" responses is that its a game
solid hinge
@solid hinge except for the campaign misions LUL
dense bone
you take liberties to make the game fun first and foremost
obsidian mason
I don't like panzerstorm, only fun for vehicles
solid hinge
except it wasnt fun
analog mist
Provence is basically Sinai.
dense bone
faction locking in a game "for historical accuracy" is fucking wack
obsidian mason
visibility is shit for planes as well
solid hinge
and they rewrote history then called us sexist
dense bone
except it wasnt fun
@solid hinge knew this comment was coming
analog mist
But now with 2 flags everyone ignores
solid hinge
Provence doesnt have planes unlike sinai
minor jacinth
They could at least bring auto team balance into the game
dense bone
can you be anything more than just a reddit copy and print machine?
obsidian mason
provence feels like st quentin scars
shy badger
Honestly we're better for it
minor jacinth
before they fully abaandon it
solid hinge
Provence is basically devastation mixed with panzerstorm
obsidian mason
maybe less verticality
solid hinge
Bruh, you realize that Historical accuracy is a good thing, right?
shy badger
There aren't many tank and infi only maps
uneven hollow
Imagine if community games let us choose what faction fights
dense bone
@solid hinge no its not, not for a game
uneven hollow
green thorn
Hehhhh
icy sluice
@uneven hollow Japanese vs Brits on Narvik
dense bone
you can prefer historical accuracy, but that does not mean "its a good thing"
upper vault
They just had to be historically accurate to a point where it was believable.
obsidian mason
I would have loved to see republic of china vs japan but that's way too much polemic
pastel grove
Left or right on Chauchat?
upper vault
As long as it seemed like WW2, it would have been fine
solid hinge
All i want is dday and stalingrad :(
yeah thats all they had to do trhen they added their own agenda
upper vault
It didn’t have to be full on historically accurate
brave coral
uhh gimme a sec @pastel grove
obsidian mason
like siege of shanghai 1939 just like it happend
pastel grove
@obsidian mason I also really wanted China
uneven hollow
Same
obsidian mason
would have been an actual unseen but interesting battle
dense bone
As long as it seemed like WW2, it would have been fine
@upper vault as someone who isnt a history buff, i can look at bfv and tell its set in ww2 and not care that a japenese person is using an american gun in a polish map or some bs like that
uneven hollow
Russia vs Poland
quiet sedge
Why tf the loading times for cosmetics so slow
solid hinge
Fuck it I had faith in battlefield I am switching to Verdun.
upper vault
Ikr? The load out is broken
dense bone
but then again i play games for gameplay first and foremost so i really dont care what the pixel im looking at is dressed as
solid hinge
cause cosmetics are for slow people 
upper vault
I see assault character in medic
dense bone
@solid hinge you were personally mistaken if you thought bfv was going to be as accurate as you are wanting
uneven hollow
True
dense bone
lose faith in yourself
obsidian mason
not accurate but authentic is what I wanted
brave coral
@pastel grove i personally went right tree for 2 and 3
uneven hollow
Bfv doesn’t even have 100 or more players
shy badger
hey dr
obsidian mason
BF1 is far from being accurate but it feels authentic
brave coral
i made an emote lol
pastel grove
Thank you @brave coral
shy badger
lmao that hat
brave coral
i’m not a great tanker lol
solid hinge
tfw no cyborg gf with nail cricket bat 
pastel grove
Was curious since both sides were pretty similar
shy badger
It's a good all rounder, don't need to be a good tanker :P
Just bum rush tanks and infis
Pretty sure it's the fastest tank in the game
upper vault
They finally brought the better looking outfits at the end
shy badger
Maybe the fastest ground vehicle (?)
upper vault
They’re not extraordinary and seem more authentic
obsidian mason
is it me or they replaced the german default helmet by the innaccurate WW1 model ?
that basically a downgrade
upper vault
I don’t even know anymore.
analog mist
@solid hinge shaped charges are strong as shit
obsidian mason
get the uniform right is important for immersion current live service model don't really work well with that
uneven hollow
Well
solid hinge
BFV would not have failed if the trailer was good if you think about it
uneven hollow
solid hinge
ramen
obsidian mason
I can't believe the marketing team felt it was a good trailer on release
uneven hollow
Oi pass me my cricket bat yer wanker and fetch me some tea and biscuits
dense bone
@solid hinge iirc bfv is 2nd best selling bf title, only behind bf1
uneven hollow
dense bone
bfv still sold 7m copies in its first month
obsidian mason
@dense bone lol really
dense bone
i posted it here before, ill look for it
brave coral
that was the first month
obsidian mason
gamers are becomming dumber each generation
solid hinge
I lovee the pacific dlc
upper vault
Temporyal posted this, I like the one on the left.
brave coral
@obsidian mason thanks for providing evidence
obsidian mason
That's why we are getting steady decline in quality
solid hinge
It has "naval", tank, infantry and air combat
dense bone
obsidian mason
@brave coral keep preordering unfinished game and waiting live service to fix the game
brave coral
people act as if “don’t like it, don’t buy it” is some extreme statement
what do y’all do just buy stuff you don’t like
solid hinge
That pretty much ruins game sales
brave coral
?
obsidian mason
@brave coral about that dumb customer base
dense bone
so yea, over 7m in first month, not to mention all the origin passes sold since bfv was in that
solid hinge
Wasn't "don't like it, don't buy it" a reply to people not wanting females in bfv
upper vault
What if someone likes BFV but not to a high extent?
obsidian mason
that's why they get away with all the shady practises
uneven hollow
Pretty much
brave coral
maybe it wasn’t the best thing for an exec to say but it’s not exactly that much of an outrageous statement it’s kinda common sense
dense bone
bad to say on your own game, completely logical statement in any other situation
upper vault
I still remember the chart showing that all cosmetics could be bought with CC
analog mist
I hate the player base more than anything.
upper vault
Until we get hit with the Boins
dense bone
people just want to play the giant slayer and use that quote as a reason to bring down "the man"
obsidian mason
Giving his position of promoting the game no, it doesnt make any sense
dense bone
people are petty basically
brave coral
actually that’s never what it said @upper vault
dense bone
Giving his position of promoting the game no, it doesnt make any sense
@obsidian mason it makes perfect sense, you dont buy what you dont like
solid hinge
@dense bone is a EA shill btw
brave coral
christ
obsidian mason
@obsidian mason it makes perfect sense, you dont buy what you dont like
@dense bone but you don't say that as a game company executive that tries to promote the game
solid hinge
always on here licking EA boots
uneven hollow
Tbh there should be 2 timers one for the CC cosmetics that only last for a day and the bions that last for a week
solid hinge
🤡
uneven hollow
But idk
dense bone
the only ea games i buy is bf titles, and i never buy them for more than 30 bucks, but ok
brave coral
@solid hinge i mean i’ve never seen you here so idk
dense bone
gysrs logic, if you dont shit on ea/dice youre a shill
brave coral
no opinions allowed
uneven hollow
Pretty much
obsidian mason
EA games is cancer, and should be shit on permanently
solid hinge
nice to see you following protocol how is that minimum wage?
uneven hollow
Even Star Wars
crystal blaze
i got killed by an m2 flamethrower on provence
uneven hollow
crystal blaze
what
dense bone
let me fix that "if you dont IGNORANTLY shit on ea/dice youre a shill"
obsidian mason
pass
dense bone
what obvious flaws?
you brought me up being a shill when people said it failed and i said it still sold 7m+ copies in its first month
these arent even opinion pieces, it was a false claim followed by a fact
brave coral
@dense bone you forget, if you don’t agree with you then their opinions are objective
it’s always the case
quiet sedge
Ngl but if you promise a game as a service then you should definitely be held accountable if you end it early because its not making enough money
echo turtle
We shilling for EA in here?
icy sluice
@crystal blaze Are you sure it wasn't the Pistol Flamethrower?
echo turtle
Buy anthem
dense bone
@quiet sedge what exactly did they end early?
echo turtle
It's a great game
brave coral
@quiet sedge lmao
dense bone
did they say you were getting x amount of time?
quiet sedge
Bfv
brave coral
you can’t say end it early when there wasn’t an end date
crystal blaze
@icy sluice it said m2
dense bone
where did they give a date for how long live service was going to last?
icy sluice
I need the video 
brave coral
just because you personally want something doesn’t mean anything
like, at any point basically
quiet sedge
Well then they should be required to say how long its gonna last when they launch the game
dense bone
this thread is basically people making shit up and then made dice didnt do what they thought
brave coral
... also no
echo turtle
Not really
upper vault
That’s the problem, the lack of updates
brave coral
thorn out here tryna invent consumer laws to fit an argument
upper vault
Which is why we relied on datamines, which led us to believe eastern front was on the horizon
brave coral
@upper vault there was very little suggesting eastern front
echo turtle
The only thing that screamed eastern front was the datamined LAD and a few gadgets
Nothing else
brave coral
and people inferring from the tiniest pieces of evidence doesn’t mean shit lol
upper vault
But that much could spark hype
brave coral
and? i fail to see how that’s DICE’s fault or even the dataminer
they always say ‘take this with a bunch of salt because it’s not official’
upper vault
I know it isn’t, but it was what really kept the momentum going
brave coral
then people take it as fact and get all upset when it’s not added
echo turtle
It's more of it might happen than it will happen
dense bone
im really concerned with a lot of peoples reading comprehension and logical thinking that come through here...
brave coral
again, not really
obsidian mason
I don't think it's about the legal stuffs, customers have expectations and they felt betrayed
dense bone
i can expect 50 bucks for being cute
that doesnt mean i have a case for it to actually come true...
obsidian mason
I don't think it's too unreasonable to expect eastern front in a WW2 game
dense bone
that doesnt mean you have a valid complaint when it doesnt come though
obsidian mason
and besides that, the game has been release in an unfinished state. We tend to accept that more often since it became common practice but really, we shoudn't
dense bone
how did it release unfinished?
obsidian mason
yes, especailly if you compare that to BF1
uneven hollow
I mean it feels unfinished but it’s not to dice
obsidian mason
buggy animations, lack of balance etc
uneven hollow
dense bone
didnt bf1 launch not go smoothly?
dense bone
buggy animations and lack of balance is not a "this game feel unfinished" situation xD
uneven hollow
True
dense bone
concerning problems are launched like bf4...
uneven hollow
Bugs tend to happen
dense bone
you know the game that didnt work for 6 months after launch?
THATS an unfinished game
fossil heron
I feel like the weapons are balanced...
obsidian mason
@dense bone I don't understand why you try to protect EA/Dice so often. No wonder why people call you a shill
upper vault
At least BF4 was turned around
dense bone
at launch weapons werent balanced
quiet sedge
A ww2 game with no eastern front is like me making you spaghetti bolognese and then just giving you a plate of spaghetti with no sauce
uneven hollow
Hardly nobody calls him that
gray glade
i actually played bfv while it had its biggest issues, I didn't play bf4 when it has it's biggest issues
fossil heron
Fair enough@dense bone
dense bone
@dense bone I don't understand why you try to protect EA/Dice so often. No wonder why people call you a shill
@obsidian mason not protect, i just call out stupid comments
obsidian mason
Sounds like a case of Stockholm syndrom
fossil heron
Whoever buys BFs at launch are shills tho
dense bone
sadly theres a lot of stupid comments here
and unfortunately i feel compelled to tackle stupid comments
fossil heron
2014 wasnt that long ago..
And there were 2 more examples after 4 why you shouldn't buy DICE games at launch
dense bone
@dense bone and again, the only game i buy from EA is BF titles, and ive paid 30 bucks at most for one of them...
upper vault
It’s the expectations that have been smashed, which also happened with Star Wars BF2.
dense bone
i actively give bfv a 6/10
those do not sound like "shill" scenarios but keep calling me that
its a stupid of a comment as saying bfvs launch was unfinished
fossil heron
Id say its an 8/10 game but 5/10 BF
obsidian mason
@dense bone you don't need to be arrogant
upper vault
At least we got scarif,
fossil heron
@obsidian mason did you buy BFV at launch?
obsidian mason
@dense bone I didn't called you a shill at all
I said no wonder people call you that way
solid hinge
Can you start a round all by yourself? (Test purposes)
obsidian mason
@obsidian mason did you buy BFV at launch?
@fossil heron yesh even preordered lol im a BF shill
dense bone
ok "technically" you didnt, but youre doing mental gymnastics if you are going to try to say you werent suggesting you agreed with them
solid hinge
What’s going on?
fossil heron
@obsidian mason so you liked what you saw in the trailer then?
hollow willow
yuh
fossil heron
I personally liked the trailer. I just dont but BF games at launch because they're always broken
solid hinge
Another reason why BFV failed is that people had very high expectations from playing BF1
uneven hollow
It appears that the hater just join as of today which explains why he hates said game and Mr cat
fossil heron
I had low expectations from playing BF1 lol
obsidian mason
@fossil heron No i was spamming vomit icons during the live release
fossil heron
But..
upper vault
Especially trailer expectations. Talking about the apocalypse trailer
fossil heron
It was cool af
upper vault
BF1 wasn’t boring though
obsidian mason
@fossil heron I even did the closed alpha btw I don't wanna go over it but I didn't agreed on the PC stuffs and the path they went in general
upper vault
I still play it, I like it.
obsidian mason
BF1 was crazy fun
fossil heron
Idc about PC stuff
solid hinge
BF1 operations was the best thing too
fossil heron
Its easy enough to ignore
uneven hollow
Indeed
upper vault
We have been supplied with a dreadnought
solid hinge
I rarely played conquest in BF1
fossil heron
BFV still feels pretty gimped for a BF
solid hinge
Only operations and frontline
obsidian mason
Not really especially when you are a history buff. they could have implemented females in so many ways it fits the actual history
echo turtle
It was weird with it counting up instead of down
uneven hollow
And better trailer
solid hinge
Another thing i like in battlefield v is that you can land planes easier
obsidian mason
plane gameplay is really what turned me off from Bf5
being a 0.1% top pilot in BF1
quiet sedge
The fact there is no hardcore mode or even custom games were you could make hardcore is upsetting
lilac umbra
some bfv maps arent made for 30-30 more like 100v100
obsidian mason
It was awful in Alpha
solid hinge
Panzerstorm would be perfect for 100v100
fossil heron
Panzerstorm would be perfect if there was helicopters
obsidian mason
and the fast TTK approach that I disliked heavily
lilac umbra
i barelt get 20kills in these huge maps 70 in other
uneven hollow
Tbh hardcore would be lovely
obsidian mason
combine with poor visibility, imo it makes the game boring and frustrating as hell
solid hinge
I would love a historically accurate hardcore
fossil heron
Sounds like madcuzbad
obsidian mason
the lack of weapon recoil is a big problem
fossil heron
BF1 was easy mode in comparison to all other BFs
obsidian mason
not really, i'm still doing good stat wise BF5 but it's not really enjoyable
lilac umbra
you have more bad games in bfv than good imo
obsidian mason
you can't make big flank maneuvers and you get heavily penalized as a solo player
solid hinge
They should add back to basics mixed with hardcore in breakthrough to BF V
analog mist
The ammo and health dumps all over the maps kinda makes it pointless
TBH there was nothing wrong with the old way
obsidian mason
it feels dumb you can't indicate there is a enemy tank lurking around to the team
tank game play feels annoying with having to head back for ammo
just too many stuff I didn't enjoyed
solid hinge
They should just increase tank ammo in general
I literally run out of ammo before the enemy runs out of tanks
analog mist
I'd be open to going back to having a cooldown for vehicle ammo.
obsidian mason
but then the majority of the community, now populated with cod kids gonna complain about vehicles being op
solid hinge
Fuck the cod community
analog mist
In-vehicle repairs should go though.
icy sluice
Literally why combat vehicles exist in real life
obsidian mason
yup it's the base concept of BF franchise
solid hinge
Reward people who are smart enough to use field cannons
obsidian mason
yes exactly
analog mist
EEEHHH
solid hinge
Shorten the time*
obsidian mason
they should make stationary weapons more desirable
analog mist
I kinda don't want the game to turn into Battlefront.
solid hinge
Stationary cannons are so glitchy
analog mist
Where you finally kill the hero, just for them to appear behind you again 2 seconds later.
shut maple
107 degrees outside
obsidian mason
they should make more AA implacements but in exchange ditch fliegerfaust and make them visible on minimap while shooting
solid hinge
And hiding wont protect you against explosions
analog mist
That second part is mostly an engine issue
icy sluice
iirc Medics can heal people while they're in vehicles
analog mist
Thats why you can get killed behind a tank that gets hit in the front.
Just down to how the game interprets hard cover
obsidian mason
last hit mecanic from plane as well has been partially implemented that but so many case you don't get any reward for enemy crashing or kill steals
main grove
In BF1 vehicles appeared on the minimap for as long as they fired
solid hinge
In war thunder assists are so rewarding
brave coral
@obsidian mason idk that it’s buggy, just you have to be on someone’s tail for a bit so that you actually caused them to crash
solid hinge
Why didn't seige of Shanghai night actually release in bf4
And you can get a kill if the enemy crashes
brave coral
me shooting a guy who’s already hurtling towards the ground didn’t exactly contribute
me chasing the guy and putting dozens of shots in or near him probably did
acoustic ether
hemlo
obsidian mason
well it's a good start they started to implement that but there is still so many occasion the pilot should have been awarded with kills
solid hinge
They should also give a slight buff to plane gunners
obsidian mason
yeah I agree it doesn't matter for a good pilot anyway
fossil heron
@acoustic ether welcome to the Battlefield Server. Are you ready to square up homie?
molten owl
cringe
fossil heron
obsidian mason
Drastic increase of plane MG TTK and converging is also really welcome. They should really ditch the idea of asymmetrical vehicle concept
solid hinge
Dont you mean decrease of ttk
obsidian mason
yes decrease sorry
solid hinge
Yeah
midnight needle
They need to rework the AA on the Greyhound
solid hinge
Or increase damage to the engine/propeller
midnight needle
Considering it’s a quad 50 cal.... no one should take 8 eight shots and STILL live from it..
molten owl
hm it kind of sucks that you need to put in 50 rounds into a plane to destroy it
without gun upgrades ofc
solid hinge
@midnight needle F
midnight needle
Right
obsidian mason
I don't really like the breaking module concept because it very inconsistent and random
midnight needle
It’s horrible at anti infantry for quad 50’s
molten owl
@obsidian mason what is that?
solid hinge
Why do alot of the guns in Hardline look so bad compared to bf4
obsidian mason
@obsidian mason what is that?
@molten owl with planes
midnight needle
Looks like I’m stuck with it till rank 6 😂
molten owl
but what is the breaking module concept
obsidian mason
but what is the breaking module concept
@molten owl the thing with disabled engine / wings
obsidian mason
quite yes unless the enemy is a big bomber, maybe you can aim for the modules but not really a thing in twisted dogfights
it's really annoying when you engine is disabled its basically gg to the enemy
molten owl
engines disabled has like never happened to me
is that new?
i havent played in a bit
obsidian mason
no was since launch
solid hinge
You can kill the enemy faster using missiles, its a skill worth mastering
molten owl
yea i know that one
obsidian mason
yeah but you kinda miss the payload for the ground attack
orchid shore
you know
solid hinge
Refilling planes is not hard
orchid shore
it's shame this is the last update and wished DICE added the M10 tank destroyer for US
solid hinge
Im a full dogfighter
brave coral
i honestly didn’t know you could disable the engine on a plane
solid hinge
And i love destroying AA guns :)
molten owl
I'd say bfv plane dogfights are way more fun than in bf4, where you simply go in a circle
obsidian mason
it's loss time. less fighting = less score
brave coral
i’ve never had it happen to me and i don’t recall disabling someone else’s engine
orchid shore
dogfights has been fucked several times in this game
molten owl
what do you mean
obsidian mason
@brave coral it happens sometime on head on encounters
brave coral
honestly that makes sense
molten owl
but yeah @orchid shore dogfights are ruined by upgrades
brave coral
i don’t often engage nose to nose
obsidian mason
your propeller start turning slowly and you lose all you speed
molten owl
prettty sure that just happens when you hit something @obsidian mason
never happened to me in a dogfight
brave coral
wait i might have done that a few times when there was an enemy air force consisting of terrible bomber pilots who were just flying in a straight line and spamming the plane spawns
solid hinge
Happens when you fly too high
brave coral
would just get way above them and basically strafe them air to air
obsidian mason
it happens often with Bomber gunners as well
molten owl
or go into a stall
orchid shore
i dont think you were there when they updated the dogfighting
molten owl
@orchid shore what did they do
worn flare
👀
verbal shale
anyone want to play bf4
dense bone
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orchid shore
i dont remember which update screwed up the dogfighting but they made a few changes to the plane physics model
obsidian mason
that was a long time ago
molten owl
hm well it seems fine to me
other than the unfair specializations dogfighting isnt much of a problem to me
obsidian mason
But I stopped playing BFV for 3 months until today. Any thing changed besides summer update ?
molten owl
since i got the game late most people had good upgrades for their plane
solid hinge
@obsidian mason bf109 upgrades changed
molten owl
it would takr me like 30 seconds to kill someone with the default guns and 5 for them to kill me
solid hinge
:)
molten owl
so it was so difficult to rank up
solid hinge
You can have missiles and manueverability upgrade at the same time
obsidian mason
@obsidian mason bf109 upgrades changed
@solid hinge yeah I noticed that but I believe that was with the summer update
non pacific fighters are so worthless
pitiful at ground attacks, you just make no score
molten owl
blast radius of rockets is just sad
solid hinge
Not like it can be changed they don't have tech for it
atomic kindle
balmy condor
midnight needle
Is there like a feedback channel?
The quad 50 cal is so... underwhelming.
Takes like five seconds of continuous fire on a target to even lower its HP past half.
Infantry target*
obsidian mason
sounds like a convergence issue
obsidian mason
The wing mounted guns tend to spread
midnight needle
I’m talkin about the AA config on the Greyhound
obsidian mason
Oh my bad
midnight needle
You good
Shooting a guy in the head for five seconds with a quad 50 cal is confusing, trust me, I get it.
obsidian mason
but it can actually be the aforementioned issue
midnight needle
Well it doesn’t seem like a spread issue more or less a dps issue
midnight needle
That’s damage per shot* btw
obsidian mason
since they are not mounted in a coaxial manner maybe you think you are hitting him but you are actually missing them because of convergence
midnight needle
But I still get a hit marker.
solid hinge
so i could like move it to the top right of the screen?
midnight needle
I don’t mean to sound difficult with this
It’s just annoying. 😂
so i could like move it to the top right of the screen?
@solid hinge nope. Either off or on. That’s it.
As far as I know.
obsidian mason
yeah I havent tested that vehicle yet need to see that first
solid hinge
@midnight needle thanks
midnight needle
yeah I havent tested that vehicle yet need to see that first
@obsidian mason I warn you. Once you select the upgrade you’re stuck with it till tier 6 ;-;
uneven hollow
Indeed he’s talking about the apple product
tribal cairn
I was a fan of the MTAR for a good while back when I played it
flat bane
I don't get why this server doesn't have specific channels for different games?
dense bone
@flat bane you want dead chats? thats how you get dead chats
uneven hollow
Understandable
tribal cairn
Like the M4?
flat bane
Yeah, like the ACE, my bae
tribal cairn
I used the M4 a whole bunch, and the ACE a bit when it was the meta
Also used the AS VAL because why not
flat bane
I really like the M4 as well, good gun, I mostly use it on support though because run out of ammo SO quickly on burst weapons.
molten owl
burst guns give me cancer
flat bane
I mostly use full auto weapons. The ACE is probably my fave overall.
AEK gives me cancer
flat bane
And M320 on Metro
Yeah I also use it ngl
Dude, I get that the M320 is good and l for kills on maps like Locker and Metro, but don't people rather revive their teammates?
I can't get myself to use anything else other than medpack and defibrillators.
Reviving in BF4 is so good. The range on the defib is great and if you have the faster charge perk it's so good.
flat bane
One issue I had with 4 was that many of the guns felt the same. I mean it's understandable when considering how many guns there are in it.
I wouldn't say the gunplay sucks.
Personally.
hollow igloo
The gun play wasn’t like the best but it’s not the worst
flat bane
Also using 44 Magnum while wearing a headset with the sound maxed out is just earrape.
hollow igloo
But it’s kinda a good earrape
flat bane
Hell yea
hollow igloo
All the dlc guns in the game are fun but I’d say the base game are all very similar
flat bane
It sounds like you're firing trucks at the enemies
cyan lake
so what are your thoughts on m3 infared
hollow igloo
Full blast model 10a hunter was fun
solid hinge
they gave a semi auto to recon
hollow igloo
And the m3 in my opinion is yeah exactly that ^
cyan lake
i play many recon games now
tribal cairn
Yeah, I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of spammy rifles as a recon,
hollow igloo
It’s just a m1 carbine
solid hinge
it's literally just the m1a1 with no bigmag option and a grayscale scope
hollow igloo
I mean don’t get me wrong it’s a cool ass gun
tribal cairn
The M3 also takes up tons of space
hollow igloo
But it doesn’t fit the class
cyan lake
i hate sniping in bf v in genral
flat bane
Is the M1 still great? When I played during the launch it was so freaking op.
solid hinge
it's not even fucking infrared
flat bane
I had a 2.0 KD
solid hinge
it cant see through smoke or anything
dense bone
@solid hinge wait whaaat?!
tribal cairn
I say it's only advantage is when fighting in Fjell during a snowstorm or Hamada during a sandstorm
dense bone
its an m1a1?1
solid hinge
its literally the m1a1
dense bone
yoooo
hollow igloo
If you could just take off the big ass light thing on it that would be nice but Ik the gun needs that thing for thermal to work
dense bone
im gonna shit on people
cyan lake
mid range gun
solid hinge
I played like 3 games and EVERYONE was running it
solid hinge
oh god yeah it's silenced
brave coral
honestly idk why so many people are using the m3 lol it’s kinda not great
hollow igloo
Or have it toggalable like you flip down the the light and it turns off thermal and you flick it up for thermal to be on
solid hinge
The scope on it is WEIRD
dense bone
yooooo that sounds gooood
brave coral
it’s a bit of a meme but it’ll probably die out soon
cyan lake
they stopped showing
solid hinge
It feels like iron sights level zoom but with 6x scope layout
dense bone
what do you mean? if its an m1a1 its the best mid range option for recon
tribal cairn
I guess hide in a building and shoot through the window at people who won't know where you are,
brave coral
i think it’s just bc it’s new since generally the m1a1 is straight up better
solid hinge
Makes everything greyscale
tribal cairn
But it's still an M1
solid hinge
it doesnt even light people up
solid hinge
it's just really grey
brave coral
it’s just locked to 3x ‘IR’
solid hinge
Nope you're stuck with the ridiculously large thing taking up like 40% of your screen
dense bone
oh.. hmm
cyan lake
if light people up will be broken
dense bone
that might be annoying
brave coral
IR meaning ‘blue-grey and grainy’
tribal cairn
We need fucking night time maps to compensate for our lack of actual vision with the M3
solid hinge
it's still basically an m1a1 for recon
cyan lake
your will get spry
brave coral
as i said, it’s a bit of a meme
cyan lake
all
dense bone
m1a1 is solid thuogh
cyan lake
but close range suck
dense bone
with supression
solid hinge
enforced ugly scope, but they gave recon a semi auto
dense bone
im gonna try it
brave coral
honestly it feels like the scope is just there to nerf it so the concept isn’t too great
dense bone
xD
brave coral
it can definitely work, target acquisition is a bit funky though
hollow igloo
But yeah if you want to go for a more infantry focused recon use the m3 just because it’s a semi auto rifle with the most ammo
tribal cairn
But you are blind in one eye
brave coral
like sometimes people show up better but sometimes they just... don’t, or you know a regular 3x would show them way better
cyan lake
to reload fast
tribal cairn
At least it has a bipod?
cyan lake
if you are 3 bullets reload
tribal cairn
I dunno
brave coral
@cyan lake that’s the case with most internal magazines
brave coral
reloads fastest at a multiple of 5 since you can use clips
the t4 reload spec improves the reload a lot though
cyan lake
nice will try it
tribal cairn
K31 on the other hand,
hollow igloo
The new cosmetics got me like
cyan lake
i like the new update best one so far
tribal cairn
When it has the equivalent of a 3x
hollow igloo
I’d say this updates on par with pacific update
stoic breach
The M3 would be nice if it lit people up and was basically anti camper
languid lark
I really like the handgun flamethrower concept 🔥😎🤟🇺🇸
stoic breach
If it was a good spotting weapon
cyan lake
i see more people playing now on servers
hollow igloo
I see a lot less newer players
languid lark
I see too many lvl 200+ players
hollow igloo
But I see a lot of people with the default black female soldier for America for some reason lol
hollow igloo
Gadget
languid lark
Yeah
stoic breach
Fuck if it was a pistol it would be 👌
languid lark
It’s not actually that good tho
hollow igloo
Wish they had the flammenwherfer as a pick up in the new maps
languid lark
It’s weak asf
hollow igloo
What class is it for again ?
tribal cairn
I wish they would buff flares a bit so the new double barreled one worked better
tribal cairn
The radius of the flares are so small
cyan lake
but they give many reasons to play recon now
hollow igloo
Yeah it being an assault gadget isn’t good because assault gadgets are all useful
languid lark
I don’t really play video games at the moment so I only played a few games on the new update
cyan lake
that class was so boring
languid lark
Assault?
cyan lake
recon
tribal cairn
Recon
languid lark
Oh ok
stoic breach
Friendship ended with single barreled flare gun, now double barreled flare gun is my best friend
tribal cairn
Apparently they can stick to vehicles as well
stoic breach
What
tribal cairn
So you can use their vehicles against them
stoic breach
Fuckin lol
languid lark
Btw does the m3 infrared work well on Panzerstorm
On airborne
It’s spots people when you aim at them right?
stoic breach
Probably
cyan lake
m3 spot
stoic breach
Even though apparently its just greyscale and gimmicky
cyan lake
but not you
languid lark
It’s not like the thermal scopes from COD tho
cyan lake
you will hit people
but they will ask who the fuck hit them
and will cry
in corner
languid lark
It’s actually hard to see anything while aiming
tribal cairn
And when walking around in general
languid lark
True
languid lark
Are there any night maps expect for Panzerstorm on airborne?
cyan lake
no
languid lark
I don’t even remember
stoic breach
Fjell
languid lark
Oh yeah Narvik
cyan lake
lol they just suck i know
stoic breach
Or Narvik
languid lark
On airborne as well
stoic breach
Ironically enough
Night Panzerstorm and Narvik have better visibility than the day versions
So you dont even need the scope
languid lark
Wym
solid hinge
The new flares stick to things
languid lark
I don’t see shit on Panzerstorm at night
stoic breach
Turn up your gamma
solid hinge
They also have a bigger radius if you fire them into the air
hasty hawk
hello, anyone wanna pla bfv three man or four man?
stoic breach
Wow
languid lark
But the visibility on Narvik is quite good you’re right
stoic breach
Hm
languid lark
I’m talking about the night version of the map of course
hasty hawk
??
coral fiber
languid lark
We were talking about the M3 Infrared
but you still can't see thru smoke
languid lark
Well it’s WW2 not modern special forces
stoic breach
Its also a game
And they can do whatever they want
Man imagine if it could see through smoke
Fucking
Invalidate dumb medics who smoke spam to revive
Dicepls
coral fiber
Even tho it's a shit scope I kinda like it
coral fiber
stoic breach
"Its a shame" no its fuckin not lol
languid lark
I will now use this gun whenever Hamada turns into Mars
stoic breach
Weapon that scales when visibility becomes even worse
stoic breach
Why do Battlefield redditors always say the stupidest shit
languid lark
Idk I don’t use Reddit
dense bone
anything reddit is fucking dumb
fossil heron
The M3 should be able to see through smoke imo
stoic breach
Yeah it should
fossil heron
The scope is just a cheap filter atm
dense bone
im in my states reddit and they are morons
fossil heron
Hell yeah
stoic breach
Would be so good
fossil heron
It would be the only counter to smokes in the game
fossil heron
Its still ok
coral fiber
I feel like the irl version of the scope would've been much shittier when what we have now
stoic breach
Imagine though, operation underground
languid lark
Yeah
fossil heron
Would rather use it without the scope tho
dense bone
people in my states reddit said the looting recently is not violent...
stoic breach
Wait what nyphon wtf lol
dense bone
yea..
stoic breach
Reddit moment
dense bone
ill dm you
stoic breach
Ye
solid hinge
hello
dense bone
hello
sacred skiff
quiet sedge
No clue my xbox did it while I was on the toilet
coral fiber
solid hinge
I do not speak English
dense bone
youre gonna have a rough time here
solid hinge
Lol
dense bone
these parts are english only
solid hinge
ok
there is no spanish
xD
It doesn't matter I can speak like this xD
but it will be another day why I'm leaving xD
gray saffron
just use google translate ;D
crystal blaze
Should i get .50 cals or the 75 mm for the greyhound
gray saffron
do you want to kill infantry and die from tanks or kill infantry AND tanks?
pale meteor
Tiger tank will eat you anyway lol
crystal blaze
Yeah but if there is a group of infantry supporting you it wont be that bad
gray saffron
50 cal is more for anti air and infantry stuff. just go for cannon time
gray saffron
oh i was just checking the specs of the greyhound for that convos upstairs xD
im not actually gonna play :<
finishing up my episode of space force and then to bed
feral glade
ah okay...later then
gray saffron
yeah, maybe tomorrow we shall play? 😄
feral glade
i wqs thinking about the othern night when i had to crash and i turned down your invite
its a deaal sure thing
im here all weekend
gray saffron
nice nice 😄
pale meteor
That Provence on Conquest is really good map imo
tough lodge
Good morning people abandoned by DICE
tough lodge
im fine
feral glade
phillipines if you havent moved
shut basin
I want to play as the Russians not stinky Americans
quiet sedge
I mean for me it feels like the open part of the map and the close quarters part of the map seem like 2 different maps
feral glade
its prime time here
pale meteor
ohh
feral glade
8 oh
@quiet sedge to me best of both worlds
good to dodge in and out of the town to avoid the snipies
gray saffron
yeah the duality is the best part of the map imo
quiet sedge
I prefer a map like panzerstorm where the transition between Infantry and vehicles is seamless, infantry are most effective around the centre three objs and vehicles are a brilliant support
Providence has the vehicles and tanks very seperate
tough lodge
Panzer IV is still the best tank for me
feral glade
i mean panzer storm
pale meteor
use transport vehicles
quiet sedge
I mean the centre 3 objs arent far apart and see constant action
feral glade
sometimes its just you on foot though
fat food for the armor
hate it when i flank for 5 minutes only to be killed when i arrive
pale meteor
I always play between C D E flags as infantry
quiet sedge
Yeah but I still prefer it to providence where you dont see a tank in the town for the entire game
feral glade
yeah thats the game levitr those flags on that map...however you can turn a game by holding B the church
coral fiber
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/ii-amp-il/video/99717885
My friend calls the glide bombs his Wingmen
stoic breach
yes
feral glade
@quiet sedge but thats what i like as im a lowly medic with zero defence againt tanks
narrow tartan
Ay what’s the name of account you use for battlefield? Like the way we use activision accs for cod
coral fiber
EA Account
gray saffron
origin?
pale meteor
squad conquest was fun in the begining
coral fiber
Never Liked SCQ
gray saffron
it was fun, until they removed frontlines and domination for it 😫
narrow tartan
So could we login to that account on a different console?
gray saffron
probably? but you probably won't get your stuff from your console account. cross-accounts is not really a thing yet
narrow tartan
Ah shame, well thanks for the help
fossil heron
Imagine needing only one account for PS, Xbox, and PC
quiet sedge
I have multiple accounts for spamming 7 day free trials of xbox live when I dont have the funds to buy a year of it
feral glade
wel,l if were dreaming they should have a reaal deathmatch without teaams
and make it tight so we dont have belly campers and snipies
quiet sedge
That's called call of duty