It kinda works
#battlefield-legacy-titles
novel light
brave coral
2x on it i can see but 3x seems too much
novel light
The thing with 3x is, I use it for scouting as much as I do for shooting
brave coral
at least for how i normally use it
solid hinge
hello
novel light
I had that weird vibe with M2
brave coral
m2 is nice with aperture i find
novel light
I felt like I don't control it, but it always seemed to find just the right bounce at the right time to get the kill
Still, I prefer slightly slower automatics
mostly
brave coral
i mainly started using the 2x on the m2 because that was the gold sight on it
novel light
My favorite Assault weapon is the Karabin tho
languid lark
Elo
novel light
Karabin is slow on reload, but it's both crisp on long range and has absolute killer hipfire
brave coral
3HK at 360rpm up close, 20 round mag, good damage at range, just looks and feels nice
languid lark
I like the MAS
solid hinge
I like the gewehr 43, and the STG 44
languid lark
The french gun
brave coral
g43 is very nice
languid lark
Yeah
solid hinge
MAS44 i think@languid lark
brave coral
tbh all the SARs are nice
solid hinge
Its good
solid hinge
I like the LS26
lime sedge
i like using the ls-26
languid lark
Me too
astral ermine
Fg42 gang
languid lark
And the FG42 as well
brave coral
i almost don’t have favourite guns bc i use basically any gun
slender drift
Madsen for the win.
languid lark
MP40 ftw
brave coral
the LS i liked, them hated for a long time, now i quite like it again
solid hinge
I like the MAB38 for medic
astral ermine
Type 100
languid lark
And EMP
novel light
For SMGs, I have two easy picks
brave coral
i just hated it for that range assignment that i got hung up on
lime sedge
my fav smg is the suomi
novel light
MP34 and Grease Gun
solid hinge
MP40 RPM is too low
languid lark
I like the Thompson as well but it’s only good for close range engagements
novel light
I never particularly enjoyed the 2A, funnily enough
languid lark
I almost never used it
brave coral
perhaps not the best gun but it’s a really nice looking one and has a bayonet lol
languid lark
Which one
astral ermine
Type 97 is cool, I'd test it more but I like the zero too much
brave coral
2A is more fun now that it’s been balanced i find
novel light
Tommy is... okay. Does a decent job all around
languid lark
MP 34?
brave coral
it’s actually a slight challenge
astral ermine
And the ka mi has nice mobility
brave coral
especially with irons
novel light
I did prefer other SMGs for that extra bit of range
brave coral
the 5.2 version with nydar was just filth
slender drift
MP40 RPM is too low
@solid hinge not really, no. Compared to real life, its fire rate is realistic, maybe on the higher end.
novel light
Pretty much in any build if you knew you're going into potential 2A area, you could outposition it very easily
slender drift
The average RPM for the MP40 is between 500 RPM and 550 RPM.
slender drift
The KP/-31.
novel light
Suomi actually is one of two guns I wanted to see the most before BFV came out
From "underappreciated weapon" angle
slender drift
I mean, it is what the Russian PPSH-41 is based off of after the Soviets pretty much had their butts handed to them thanks to the Suomi.
astral ermine
I like the type 100 since it seems to be relatively good at range
brave coral
the commando carbine takes a bit of getting used to if you haven’t used it for a bit but it’s actually pretty fun and can be quite effective at sorta close/medium range
novel light
I mean, Soviets were so desperate for automatics and semis during Winter War that they took ancient semi-autos using Japanese cartridge out of the stockpiles
slender drift
Such as the Fedorov Avtomat.
novel light
Fedorov wasn't even the oldest gun they dragged out, I think
languid lark
The one and only
shy badger
Why does grind on UG even exist
gray saffron
Cause it makes semse, boggy
brave coral
good for high kill games but it could be better honestly
shy badger
No it fucking doesn't
gray saffron
Its made for grindy maps
shy badger
UG is already grindy af
gray saffron
Where you're stuck in the middle
shy badger
Who the hell wants even more grind than that
brave coral
i don’t really like that they just used the conquest layout minus the outer corridors
wet fossil
God I fucking hate the G18
shy badger
You literally can't move
wet fossil
There's a guy here using it as his primary
shy badger
Its just brute forcing your way to their flag
brave coral
i would much rather they put objectives in the tunnels or something
gray saffron
Oh right its thursday. New boins and playlist day
brave coral
ye
gray saffron
So we have grind noe?
solid hinge
What's the g 18?
astral ermine
I wish they made a map with points of contention other than the flags so you don't spend your time dying in transition
gray saffron
G18? Which bf?
solid hinge
What’s this weeks playlist?
wet fossil
Jesus christ will this guy use literally anything else
He's killed me six times with that piece of shit
solid hinge
Thanks for the response lol
brave coral
i wonder if the flamethrower is on underground grind
solid hinge
Anybody else must be blind or dumb
dense bone
@wet fossil g1-5?
gray saffron
Depends on whether the tunnels are closed or nawt
solid hinge
Isn’t grind on underground the same as CQ?
shy badger
I think I prefer the normal ones, the arch helps a lot
prime pine
Its more enclosed and doesn't drain
brave coral
oh yeah
forgot that those areas aren’t actually open
@shy badger huh i guess it’s just preference
i don’t often use irons at all on the Kar
normally it’s got a 6x on it
wet fossil
This fucking arsehole with his G18
What he does is either brrrt you into the ground point blank
Or knock most your health off with his sniper rifle then switch to the fucking G18 and brrrt you into the ground
Seriously why is this allowed
An actual SMG as a pistol
icy sluice
G18 is good 
prime pine
On bfh the mac10 was a recons primary
bronze rose
any news when the new maps roll out
i kind of don't care about cc if i can be frank i could just buy that myself
tacit kelp
Thx Dice. VB is still broken. 91 damage->Pazner 38T
bronze rose
artillery fire is the chad strike
astral ermine
Vb?
hoary cradle
wet fossil
The 38T is a light tank.
I'd bloody well expect it to not stand up to a full volley of rockets.
solid hinge
How are we going guys?
coral fiber
@tacit kelp VB does like 80dmg
Not sure where you got 90 from
Unless it's a light tank
solid hinge
The spitfire rockets wont damage planes...
coral fiber
Yeah Spitfire rockets are back to normal
solid hinge
Dogfight in this game is broken and unbalanced
coral fiber
Yep
solid hinge
Not for pacific planes tho
coral fiber
Maybe if they gave the VA high alt package and increased maneuverability it would better match the 109
solid hinge
8mgs and increased manueverability would be too OP
coral fiber
So are the rockets om the G2
coral fiber
Both rockets do like 70 dmg to a fighter
solid hinge
The 7mms seems better cus they are faster and have a fast RPM
coral fiber
I use that first then when I get close I use the hispano's
solid hinge
They could put a better convergence in the hispano
coral fiber
Or increase the bullet velocity
solid hinge
Yeah
The minengchoss is better
It can kill the pilot
And its located in the nose, therfore better accuracy
solid hinge
Wow
astral ermine
G6 gang
coral fiber
Better against strafing
Air to air
It's just so damn good
solid hinge
Tbh they should just rework the european fighters, add two levels to them
coral fiber
Too late for that
astral ermine
I want more pacific planes tbh but they already went so hard with the zero and corsair
solid hinge
Flying pacific planed is just way better
coral fiber
I don't like pacific planes
astral ermine
They are balanced but the engines feel underpowered
slender drift
Probably too late for the reworks, anyways. Once this update is live... that's it.
coral fiber
People still stall lol
But the thing with stalling is that it makes you super predictable in a dogfight
astral ermine
Bruh half the time I turn they it doesn't shake them
solid hinge
Camera in BF V kinda sucks
astral ermine
Imagine carpet bombing that fort with a Betty on pacific storm
solid hinge
There is also that barrel roll manuever
astral ermine
Spinning? Lmao
solid hinge
It works for the first time but wont work the second, your enemy will predict it and kill you
astral ermine
This ain't star fox and I aim for the engine
solid hinge
Spinning, lifting and slowing down
slender drift
"I should try spinning! That's a good trick!"
astral ermine
I either turn or throttle down and corkscrew
solid hinge
@astral ermine thats a barrel roll
astral ermine
O
solid hinge
Starfox taught you the wrong thing lmao
coral fiber
Das a long link
astral ermine
It's a little for that don't you think?
solid hinge
Maybe
coral fiber
Bf is always about arcade
Not realism
coral fiber
Maybe if they applied some bf4 flight mechanics like speed control then it would make a huge difference and increase the skill ceiling too
solid hinge
I was talking about planes but ok
brave garnet
Oh planes
solid hinge
Tank combat in BF V kind sucks ngl
brave garnet
That could seem fun but spitfires would out turn other planes easily
Tank combat in BFV is ass
solid hinge
There are times where you ricochet for literally no reason
coral fiber
The thing with bfv flight mechanics is that they heavily aid the noobs and aid wack ass maneuvers like stalling
Rather than make it based upon previous BF's before bf1
quiet sedge
Tbf most things in bfv heavily aid noobs
coral fiber
Bf4 had it right
I flew in a jet yesterday with some friends and they taught me the basics
It was so fun
solid hinge
Never played BF4
quiet sedge
Sad, it's still a great game
solid hinge
BF1 air combat was good
barren mango
Mmm that sweet moment when a fighter rams you in bf 1 and you suddenly turn 90 degrees down into the ground
solid hinge
Crashing in BF V is weird
barren mango
Thats all that BF 1 plane fights remind me off
barren mango
I miss battlefield 4 air superiority
Or whatever it was
I think it would have been cool to have it WW2 themed
barren mango
Well
astral ermine
Yeah this is the peak of dogfighting
barren mango
People expected more out of it
coral fiber
Im pretty convinced bf4 had the most superior flight mechanics
barren mango
They were cool
quiet sedge
BF4 helicopters were great
barren mango
First difference in BF V I noticed were.... tanks
solid hinge
Tanks sucked aes
barren mango
Ngl a tank in BF 4 was kind of uh... weaker than BF V
solid hinge
Tank combat is just hitting your enemy until one of you dies
neon turtle
nice name get memes on lol
coral fiber
It was a meme my friends and I made when I used to play siege
unreal pagoda
do anyone still play battlefield hardline here?
icy sluice
I'd play it if more people were on it
The only people that play it are people that have been playing it since it came out and never stopped lol
astral ermine
Is it that good?
icy sluice
Personally, I'd play it more than 4 and 1
The big problem for most people is that there's no jets or tanks so there's a heavier focus on transport vehicles
As a result there's more vehicle chases which don't happen much in other Battlefield games
astral ermine
That sounds pretty awesome
bronze rose
so when are the new maps coming out to battlefield v?
astral ermine
That's not something you get to often in bf
bitter cargo
Hello
raw orbit
soon (tm)
icy sluice
!!when
ruby trailBOT
Soon™
wet fossil
I swear to fucking god if COD gets back to the Cold War proper before Battlefield does
icy sluice
Probably will, also we don't know what the next Battlefield is still
quiet sedge
Considering theres an new CoD every year with different settings I'd say more than definitely CoD will do cold war again before BF does
wet fossil
So yesterday I was on Locker
Recon, thermal sights on sniper rifle with straight pull
Works great there.
Anyway, I walked out along the outside path and went around to B point with the isolation cells
Nobody around, I'm capping by myself.
So I pop inside one of the cells, plonk down a TUGS, and wait.
That's when the red dots appeared all around me.
One, two, three, all converging on my cell.
Because, you know, they could hear the beeping.
They just waited there.
quiet sedge
Oof
wet fossil
After about ten seconds of me shitting myself one of them threw in a grenade, at which point I burst out and managed to land a revolver shot before being taken down
icy sluice
I'm just waiting to have fun with a tacticool pistol
quiet sedge
That's why I prefer sitting behind one of the pillars on the lower floor for the cells objective, it's dark so the enemy wont see you a lot of the time and you have a secondary escape route
icy sluice
Red Dot Sight, Long Barrel, Extended Magazine, Laser Sight, stuff like that on a M1911 or Glock 17 and have fun with it
supple mica
For those that play BF1 between Lmg-08/18 & MG-14/17 which one of them is controllable with the bipod deployed. For me when I played with MG-14/17 low weight the high fire rate causes your shots to land to the right of the target or overshoot
raw orbit
muh x time period bad/y time period good is a bad meme literally arbitrarily deciding which era would be good on a coin flip
icy sluice
I have a good WWII game to play but not a good modern game to play (that is multiplayer that is)
raw orbit
if dice was smart theyd just do WW2 again so they can reuse assets save time and hopefully not make a mess of the development this time 
icy sluice
I don't see a WWII game happening for quite some time
Modern would be ideal for DICE to do right now, popularity wise
astral ermine
Future time
icy sluice
Females don't matter anymore either, right now only incels care atm
astral ermine
Ngl I liked infinite warfare so I'm open too it
It's gonna cost a bit to design things like that tho
raw orbit
if EA was smart theyd shut down dice and move all the budget to respawn for titanfall 3 
astral ermine
But there is a lot of possibilities from them to get out of the usual
quiet sedge
Honestly I dont want dice to reuse the assets from bfv, everything was way too bright and colourful for my taste
icy sluice
Infinite Warfare's story line actually felt like a war compared to MW19 
I'm honestly tired of the whole spec-ops like gameplay in CoD
quiet sedge
That's what cod is tho, so the player can feal good about themselves by gunning through waves
To justify it everyone is the best of the best special forces
icy sluice
Thing is you did gun down waves of enemies with the advanced movement in the future games and the juggernaut enemies felt more satisfying to take down
astral ermine
sorry to burst your bubble but i don't think ea works like that
yea same
i liked the clearing out levels in mx19
mw19
icy sluice
I mostly miss how older CoD games campaign felt where you were a soldier in the frontlines
astral ermine
cod 3 did that so well
icy sluice
YEAH!
quiet sedge
Cod waw will always be my favourite
icy sluice
CoD 3 has such a good campaign!
astral ermine
it was all one battle from so many different perspectives
shy badger
Unfortunately cod3 was console only
astral ermine
ps2 gang
icy sluice
If the next Battlefield has a campaign, I am hoping we just stay away from stealth and focus more on frontline combat
astral ermine
for real no one talks about cod 3 but it was amazing
i don't think i replayed any other cod campaign level like that
for real tho, infinite warfare is prolly one of my favorite cods
shy badger
huh really?
icy sluice
tmw Combined Arms felt better than MW19 
coral fiber
Lol
astral ermine
it got hate because it was futuristic
gray saffron
cod united offense was best cod.
shy badger
I saw some gameplay it looked like the same old cod
astral ermine
but the campaign was good i thought, i liked flooting in space
shy badger
Judging the whole game by the campaign is unfair :P
astral ermine
there is some different physics and operator abilities
i liked the environment in multiplayer
shy badger
tbh every cod campaign I played after waw just felt too outlandish and "unrealistic"
Especially mw2
That was such a stupid story
solid hinge
why was mw2 stupid
shy badger
Oh where can I start
astral ermine
wait what
wet fossil
Just playing the side missions alone disproves that.
shy badger
Okay, lets start by the fact that russia starts a WORLD WAR because someone shot up their airport, but didn't actually check for faces
astral ermine
i never noticed but days really don't mean much in space i guess
shy badger
Or finger prints
wet fossil
Because like two of them open with you having been sitting on some asteroid on stakeout for the last eight hours
shy badger
or witnesses
wet fossil
The only way this took place in one day is if it was a Venus day
shy badger
And based the whole invasion on the fact that they found american stamped casings
wet fossil
Which is longer than its orbit
astral ermine
yeah mw2 was kinda smooth brained
shy badger
Which could've been easily forged
solid hinge
theyre all smooth brained its cod
astral ermine
and a dead cia guy
astral ermine
uh cod3 people
wet fossil
And then there's the fact that the Russians somehow invaded America at all.
Spacebattles.com has long concluded that they can teleport.
Because logistically there is zero way they could've pulled that off.
World In Conflict was much more realistic in that the Soviets barely got two hours out of Seattle before stalling out and being pushed back.
astral ermine
lmao russia
wet fossil
I fucking hate modern geopolitics
astral ermine
russia is the most overrated world power
same
I miss when the mideast had a third party between iran and saudi arabia
wet fossil
Seriously though the majority of Russian military power still relies on Cold War era hand-me-downs
lethal totem
i need bf 5
astral ermine
they have been trying for centuries to get a warm water port
lethal totem
its expensive tho
wet fossil
Russian geopolitical doctrine places a lot of emphasis on supporting their navy.
For some reason.
Because they've never been good.
astral ermine
rule the ocean you rule the world
wet fossil
Like fucking hell you stole Crimea for this?
astral ermine
bf5 is cool ngl
shy badger
alrighty I think getting into politics is too far :P
shy badger
Against the rules :, same as talking about non bf on bf but thats on me
astral ermine
o
wet fossil
Basically, as it stands a proper global war between two parity powers can't happen
A) They couldn't find a worthwhile reason to fight if they tried
B) They aren't parity at all
Which is why I advocate for the usage of a fictional world with its own geography
astral ermine
that's why, for reality's sake, next bf if modern needs to be a proxy war or take some artistic liberties, nothing wrong with that
oh that is cool too
you could play with the concepts of war without having to deal with the constritions of reality
also world building
but then you have to hire writers and shit, guys with military/political knowledge too
wet fossil
Metro has a wall ad with what appears to be a map of Strangereal on it
Or at least part of it, in an old-timey style.
solid hinge
On bf4 or bf3 metro?
wet fossil
BF4 I think
wet fossil
I would just post it here but I'm still not allowed to fuckin post images because reasons
solid hinge
Same
wet fossil
But anyway DICE needs to talk to Namco and get them to authorise a Battlefield game set during Ace Combat's wars.
astral ermine
sounds good
those flying games always feel like they are missing something without a land perspective
wet fossil
Also they have distinctive nations with real nice flags and no limits to what they can field
And imagine fighting over a superweapon
fossil heron
Grind is such a solo player experience
feral grotto
Grind and hackers.. dream come true
fossil heron
Grind would be the perfect game gor hackers
solid hinge
guys if i want to return an item to bestbuy through mail should i mail it a week before return deadline or can i mail it on the last day?
feral grotto
Grind is basically a bf version of cod.. hackers and lil fa....s paradise.. so many noobs.. it's sad
next herald
Oh starfish is a server booster lol
coral fiber
Grind is weird if im being honest
shy badger
in what way
brave coral
grind is fun as like mindless killing
coral fiber
Does anyone remember fortress lol?
brave coral
but generally by about tuesday if i’ve played it every day it gets a bit stale
brave coral
fortress had similar but it had an even shorter shelf life lmao
coral fiber
Idk why but that was fun for me
shy badger
Couldn't stand it
brave coral
like it’s fun for a few games then it’s just annoying
shy badger
Especially not on hamada
brave coral
didn’t help that it was only two maps
coral fiber
Fortess on hamada is basically D Day
brave coral
after 4 games you’ve played every possible combination
shy badger
Pretty much yea
brave coral
and basically every game of fortress plays out the same
sharp dove
fossil heron
Grind gets stale as shit but luckily im leveling my soumi and 1907sf rn
brave coral
at least grind just embraces that it’s as close to 24/7 shipment as you get in bfv because that’s what some people want
and yeah it’s good for getting a bunch of kills
solid hinge
grind coming back?
fossil heron
But with less grenade launchers
brave coral
fortress kinda... has the idea down but it’s not very well executed and it’s very limited
fossil heron
Today yeah
solid hinge
im pissed
brave coral
if it was on a few more maps then it would be more enjoyable
astral ermine
what was fortress?
solid hinge
i couldnt even enjoy outpost last night 😔
fossil heron
I went in last night
solid hinge
all it was was people not leaving spawn
astral ermine
y?
brave coral
but there’s not many places i can think of that would work as heavily built up areas
astral ermine
o
solid hinge
and most of the team quitting cause they slightly started to lose
brave coral
@astral ermine fortress is like a single sector of breakthrough, three objectives, in a very heavily fortified area
fossil heron
They can do devastation and get rid of B and D
solid hinge
lots of lag and teleporting enemies too even tho my ping was 40
brave coral
only on two maps - devastation (in the cathedral) and hamada (the ruins area)
solid hinge
i eventually just got pissed and stopped playing
fossil heron
Hamada Ruins works well for SQ
brave coral
it sounds good and it is ok but it also tends to be very one sided because the defenders are supposed to have the advatange
solid hinge
and outpost is easy to come back from, quality of players just suck major hairy ass
brave coral
except they had too much of an advantage generally
feral grotto
Does anyone remember fortress lol?
@coral fiber
On hamada with the planes, so good
So hard to win as an attacker.. and so rewarding when you manage
brave coral
@solid hinge yeah, once again, weekly rotation kinda has that effect bc all the conquest brainlets who only know zerg and camp go ‘hoohoo this sounds fun’ and sit in spawn with a bayonet up their ass
brave coral
fortress has it, rush has it, frontlines has it, outpost has it
solid hinge
i can never find a server with quality players
astral ermine
I tried defending and zerging and neither works
fossil heron
Outpost RELIES heavily on squad play
solid hinge
all it does is tilt me and make me never wanna play anymore
brave coral
@astral ermine i think Hamada has fighters available but there aren’t tanks on either fortress map
@fossil heron yeah that’s why i wasn’t having good experiences the past two days really
feral grotto
There was an attacker tank on hamada fortress
brave coral
i kept being put in the actual worst squads every time i joined a game lol
astral ermine
That's kinda interesting, but sounds hard for attackers
fossil heron
If you dont have a decent squad you have to go recon for the beacon, i have barely any time with recon and outpost got me loving the zh
brave coral
yeah exactly
fossil heron
Same tho DR, my squadm8s were all under lvl 30 every time
Hence why i was desperate in lfg lmao
astral ermine
For whatever reason I have a better time in outpost than conquest
brave coral
it’s not even rank bc i’ve learned not to base judgement on rank since some level 120s are the most boring, shittest players you’ve ever seen and i’ve has level 30s in my squad go absolutely off
fossil heron
I kept having the team that acted like it was conquest, rotating around the points without ever defending them
feral grotto
Level means nothing.. I'm any fps game..
brave coral
i joined a game and i filled the last spot on the team, no squads available to join... the other players in my squad were the bottom 3
solid hinge
@fossil heron thats so fucking frustrating
fossil heron
Campaign to remove prone from the game
brave coral
it’s when people are level 54 going 4-23 and you’re like ‘how are you that bad’
feral grotto
To win grind you just 3-4 people that know how to play..
fossil heron
I also remember those mw2 hacked lobbies where if you sat in a corner for longer than 3 seconds you get killed
solid hinge
i had a round where there wasnt any team work at all, we destroyed a tower and when i was building it, i looked around literally everyone dipped
astral ermine
Level 300+ tho...
solid hinge
im like wtf, then enemies came back and killed me
brave coral
tbh grind isn’t a mode people play to win lol
fossil heron
Yeah
feral grotto
I play to win..
fossil heron
I care about that juicy flank
brave coral
like we won? cool. we lost? i don’t really care, got some nice kills and a bunch of score
solid hinge
i didnt really get to play grind
feral grotto
That juicy flank and kd doesn't mean a lot when you lose 300-0 because of your team
fossil heron
Well youre gon learn todag
astral ermine
I stopped playing to win because it's futile
solid hinge
i got the game right when it ended, only played a round and it made me think the whole game was 3 laney
solid hinge
i played a round of grind and said this is like cod lol
brave coral
i might have to go all out, just this once
feral grotto
Welp.. I manage to get my highest spm in a game today on grind..
My previous record was 1337.. I managed to get 1402 👍
brave coral
bring out the Type 2A
fossil heron
Damn son
solid hinge
i got 2 type 2a kills
i dont even got it bought, i just picked up up off a person i tea bagged on for using it
fossil heron
I did get 1300 one game but i was in the pak 40 for 90% of it lol
feral grotto
Type 2 isn't hard to counter..
It's those lagging cod sliding guys who fk you up
Bunny hopping in bf 💩
solid hinge
i always teabag on people i counter who using type 2a
fossil heron
Bunny hopping works lol
brave coral
i’m probably going to use it tonight, get the gold tag, and put it down for a good while lol
solid hinge
get doodooed on
brave coral
the thing is, it’s still good, but it’s pretty well balanced and not that popular
people complain like it’s 5.2 and it’s really not
fossil heron
Soumi is more op than 2a
solid hinge
i see a lot less of soumi tho
fossil heron
You can snipe with it
solid hinge
and imo soumi better than 2a
fossil heron
Because people are dumb and dont realize that thier "god gun" isnt the best
solid hinge
thats why i hate them
feral grotto
I'll take Sten/mp40/m3 any day on any map over those 700+ rpm smgs
solid hinge
noob gun
brave coral
idk if i don’t see much 2a or if i just don’t get killed by it that much
fossil heron
I prefer the ZK for slower rof smgs
fossil heron
Its really prevalent on underground
solid hinge
@brave coral play a close quarters map
feral grotto
Sten/mp40 are too accurate and strong
solid hinge
or tdm or squad conquest
brave coral
the 2a is fine but people who still think it’s the best gun in the game (and either use it as if it is or don’t use it for that reason) are dumb
fossil heron
Well they have the same btk as the 2a and the salami its just easier to land those bullets
brave coral
salami
solid hinge
i feel like the majority of type 2a users would suffer if they had to use a diff gun
brave coral
actually the 2a has a +1BTK model over the other smgs
feral grotto
The people that think 2a is the best are those who play with the m2 and stg44
solid hinge
that isnt a noob one
brave coral
like the type 100
feral grotto
While they aren't sniping with slr
brave coral
it’s not really a noob gun though
like it’s noob friendly but realistically most of the automatics are
feral grotto
Type 100 would've been a noob gun if it had 20more bullets
brave coral
and you do have to tap/burst (can you really tapfire with 1000+ rpm?) past pretty extreme close range
or at least to have decent bullet economy and not just be drawing a perfect outline while you get domed
brave coral
i mean the type 2a
feral grotto
With the 2a and suomi you can hold to fire it's pretty accurate
solid hinge
i get one framed by type 100 at medium range a lot of the time
brave coral
type 100 is very user friendly but you can do better with other guns
solid hinge
its maddening
fossil heron
First game of grind I join has my whole team getting base raped
solid hinge
what map
solid hinge
teammates disappoint, so im going to stop being a team player
just gonna hop on grind and increase all my stats
astral ermine
That's what I do with conquest
Might as well wait for a vehicle so I can max it out
hoary condor
breakthrough 🙂
stoic breach
Type 100 is still the worst SMG in the game, why does nobody ever think to check the stats for anything
stoic breach
If "low recoil" means noob gun, then basically every single weapon in the game is a noob gun
Sten is the second worst SMG in the game
formal dome
how come
stoic breach
Its only better than the Type 100 because it takes one less bullet to kill
formal dome
you know what lemme look at the stats
stoic breach
Slow rate of fire + mediocre SMG damage model
stoic breach
Its just kind of ok at range and has easy recoil
formal dome
in your opinions
stoic breach
Alot of them are decent
remote marten
Is this game still alive on Xbox?
formal dome
imn playing on xbox!
hoary condor
stoic breach
MP40, MAB, ZK, all really nice
solid hinge
i do amazing with the sten
hoary condor
sten is so good
stoic breach
You can still do good with a bad weapon
solid hinge
sten bad but mp40 nice? bruh
stoic breach
Its not like it stops you from playing
hoary condor
sten has range teh mp40 doesn't
formal dome
i like rocking iron sights on the sten
hoary condor
solid hinge
it does tho lmao
formal dome
wait i thought the mp40 was really nice
stoic breach
Suomi has good hipfire and kills faster
solid hinge
if close you can hipfire and move fast as possible
stoic breach
Based on minmax its a better pick for hipfire
solid hinge
and you can snipe with it :)
formal dome
i love sniping with smgs
solid hinge
not literally snipe
stoic breach
The SMGs have shit damage at range and dont have the spread for it
Its possible but its not good
formal dome
pew pew pew sniping medic
hoary condor
i snipe with stg44 sometimes
stoic breach
If you want to do that you might as well use the Ribeyrolles
hoary condor
only if i'm getting shot at
stoic breach
Since it actually has the range
Yeah, its a shame that suppression got nerfed to shit
If suppression was actually good, the Sten would actually have a decent utility because of its low base spread
Not good enough to "snipe", but good enough to suppress
Same with weapons like the StG44
Really meh at range but suppression would help them alot
stoic breach
Yeah the beta had alot of good shit
Beta turner sicko mode
20 round detachable mag
Seriously wish the 20 round box mag was available for the Model 8 in recon class
raw orbit
beta was best bf5 
stoic breach
👽
raw orbit
dont u alien me]
stoic breach
The snipers were for some reason 100 percent accurate as soon as you started to aim in beta
It actually made them sort of useable
By complete accident
solid hinge
The best thing in squad conquest is the fact that youre more likely to appear in the best squad screen
raw orbit
solid hinge
25% chance if everyone has equal skill
dense bone
im 100% likely to get best squad
solid hinge
Ive been best squad alot of times
gray saffron
they needa worst squad screen on april fools
solid hinge
They do
solid hinge
my squad would get worst squad every single time
They could also add transport seats to the trucks
That was their purpose after all
And let people spawn inside an active onr
solid hinge
kids nowadays play it safe
gray saffron
you litterally have a camo that turns you into a bush in fortnite. they've been bushcamping since release ;D
oh wait, fortnite kids in bfv
well, it still applies ;D
they learned it in their game 😄
solid hinge
bushes give me ptsd
solid hinge
yes
fossil heron
Lack of team balance is going to get me to uninstall the game and never buy a BF again
hoary condor
bf1 is good
fossil heron
Great series, shame its unplayable
hoary condor
though campers hard af in that
solid hinge
"9 vs 22"
hoary condor
bfv lacks maps i enjoy tbf
kinda force Pacific on me.. i haven't enjoyed any new maps lol
solid hinge
if dice never made it the way u have to quit just to claim unlocks, etc
then it wouldnt be as much of a problem
want to claim an unlock, change assignments? you must quit
hoary condor
yeah no idea why that was never fixed
spring current
Anyone want to join my bf1 milsim hmu
hoary condor
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astral ermine
I'm telling you bf needs more points of contention that aren't flags so you don't die from randos in transition
solid hinge
i hope dice fucks up on the rewarding boins this week too, so i can get another 300 boins
then i will only be 100 short from getting an elite
astral ermine
I played breakthrough on mercury and there was a big fight on the hill, it has no flag but it is a strategic spot, this is what bf needs
Nice
honest frigate
siema
astral ermine
Dice will end up handing them out
Basically, bf needs choke points and power positions
pulsar valve
Can you be a decent human being? Thanks
gray saffron
lol won on grind in twisted steel and my game crashed. must have been oone hell of a victory D:
astral ermine
Won so hard you killed the game
slender drift
I don't know if they are actively participating in the EASE Autism program, but it would explain some of their decisions
That's not very MLG of you to say that.
pulsar valve
Cut the insults. Last warning
solid hinge
to be fair, people on the spectrum are pretty industrious on stuff they passionate about
slender drift
I mean, the game was rushed to release by its developer, so you can't really blame them for not including an anticheat.
solid hinge
i was refuting
pulsar valve
How many anti-cheats have you integrated into AAA games?
slender drift
takes very little dev time
@fiery wharf you say that as if you're an expert on implementing anticheats.
umbral patrol
Yep
slender drift
You've done research, but have you actually gone into the field and done it?
dense bone
"ive done research on heart surgery, i can do it"
slender drift
"I've done my research on nuclear physics, so I know everything about it."
dense bone
mozzy isnt selling a game half off 2 months after release either
and its no one fault here that you bought the game
pulsar valve
It has an anti-cheat and you know that, but that doesn't get as much attention
feral grotto
If there was no anti cheat you'd see way more hackers
slender drift
There is anticheat on the game.
dense bone
theres anticheat, even if its not good, its there
because the anticheat sucks?
this isnt a binary function
pulsar valve
Did you just admit to cheating
feral grotto
Dumbass
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slender drift
LOL
feral grotto
Smart..
pulsar valve
solid hinge
I'm just here spectating
feral grotto
It's never boring in here.. now just waiting for the next dummy
solid hinge
Lol
feral grotto
Doesn't seems that way
novel light
People continue to amaze me
solid hinge
MG42 is OP in conquest grind
limber cave
so rather than address the 'no anticheat in battlefield 5' issue, you are just going to ban people who bring it up?
icy sluice
He admitted to cheating
solid hinge
It was funny watching it happen
feral grotto
There's bringing anti cheat up and being stupid
limber cave
In context it sounded like he was experimenting to see how effective, if it all, the anticheat was.
solid hinge
I didnt see it happen :(
icy sluice
He can say stuff like "The Anti-Cheat in Battlefield V sucks" but if you openly admit to cheating, expect the rules to come down on ya
solid hinge
they are just volunteer mods for this server, what are they gonna do about anti cheat
feral grotto
In context it sounded like he was experimenting to see how effective, if it all, the anticheat was.
@limber cave
Lol..
limber cave
He said "On a free weekeend I tried cheating, named it hack.exe, and they still couldnt detect it"
solid hinge
Oh
desert dune
900 IQ move
icy sluice
Yes which is admitting to cheating which is against the rules
limber cave
Yes so totally instantly perma IP ban him makes sense
slender drift
Bruh, the Madsen with 3x scope and 40-round magazine is the best.
icy sluice
You went to the police with a loaded gun and said you shot a man
limber cave
Yeah totally same thing
feral grotto
I killed a man just to see if you're awake in here
icy sluice
Hyperbole lol
limber cave
I think its more like
theres anticheat
I can prove there is no anticheat by making the most basic of cheats and calling it hack.exe
does so
permaban
solid hinge
@feral grotto i pinched his nose just to make sure his breathing was right
astral ermine
Yeah that's a little much
feral grotto
Remind me of that guy that thought I was cheating so he "activating my hacks just to fight off other hackers"
limber cave
Beating hacking with hacking XD
Well atleast he is doing something about the cheaters, because DICE is not
feral grotto
Don't be a dumbass like the guy from earlier
limber cave
By pointing out DICE doesn't punish cheating?
slender drift
By pointing out DICE doesn't punish cheating?
No, by openly saying you went on Battlefield V and used cheats.
feral grotto
Read what you wrote up till now.. that's why
astral ermine
It's a little different then bragging about aim bot or something
limber cave
You know what, I played for 30 minutes today, and all 30 minutes was on 3 different servers with 4 different cheaters before I gave up, thats friggin ridiculous
There were only 3 US EAST servers up and all 3 had cheaters
but I guess I should shshshshshshshs be quiet?
slender drift
No.
feral grotto
That means you need to hack? And day it over here..?
astral ermine
I don't think I've come across hackers yet
slender drift
It's one thing to complain about anticheat.
feral grotto
Where there is a rule saying you'll go bye bye
slender drift
Openly saying you cheated is completely different.
limber cave
Im complaining they have no anticheat. They need to pony up and license one, even if they are killing the game.
slender drift
Well, better hope they get one this coming summer update.
limber cave
PC is chock full of hacks, especially the asian and US WEST servers
slender drift
If not, tough luck.
solid hinge
Is bf5 still fun haven't played it since last year
slender drift
Yeah.
astral ermine
East is the best once again
slender drift
I started playing it, today, and completed my tides of war and daily orders stuff.
limber cave
Its fun when you you dont get instantly headshot across the map from hackers, which is common on PC.
feral grotto
.. drunk game it seems @hoary condor
slender drift
Well, good thing I don't play on PC.
hoary condor
it isn't a sober one
solid hinge
I get more deaths than kills lol
slender drift
Same.
gray saffron
define common. are you commonly playing on asian servers or something? i hardly see them in europe servers :<
feral grotto
They are there.. not in big numbers
gray saffron
plus if they are, you can easily serverhop 🤷♀️
feral grotto
Maybe common means something else over there
dense bone
im NA west, ive been suspicious of less than 10 people hacking
after 200 something hours
limber cave
About 30-40% of my games on US EAST have blatant hacking, many subtle wallers but that is different.
If you play between 1am - 6am like I do when I shift work, its 100% hackers
dense bone
i get called a hacker probably every other game, so i think most people just suck and cant comprehend someone being good at the game honestly
limber cave
Oh no
muted socket
every time i play someone is accused of hacking but i check the scoreboard and the only people with 0 deaths are the people in the back of the map with a tank
limber cave
this is instant noscope headshots all across the map on everyone
fossil heron
Its more like 5% and you're judt getting rolled
coarse thunder
He's mad she's mad big sad
feral grotto
Sounds like that
fossil heron
I got madcuzbad earlier and just accepted that I got out played
limber cave
I've been working shift work so when I play there's only 1 NA 64 and 1 NA 32 server, betweeen 1am and 6am they always have atleast 1 hacker on them
and thats a blatant everyone knows he admits it type hacker
feral grotto
Get a diff job then 
fossil heron
Hard to do currently
limber cave
worst part is its been the same hacker for 2.5 months
feral grotto
Well.. I'm working at 2 jobs currently.. not that hard
limber cave
and IVe reported him both in game and via ticket
fossil heron
I dodged a layoff yesterday
limber cave
he just goes 100-0+ every game with a lewis gun and laughs at the server dying
feral grotto
80% of our company in my main job got vwp.. and I'm just in my office like..well damn
astral ermine
Might as well sit in the corner and say "I win" to yourself
feral grotto
Well my PC is at the corner
fossil heron
Ty ty
novel light
Not gonna lie, I would rather work in office than WFH like now... but I'm just glad to have a place to work with the whole corona situation
fossil heron
4 people who were there longer than me got laid off but I never call off so they kept me
novel light
And I guess I dodged a bullet, if I moved 2 weeks earlier I would get stuck in Spain pretty much exactly on shutdown day
solid hinge
it makes me happy a lot of people dodged bullets
fossil heron
I work for Amtrak and deal with transportation, when this all started I was paranoid af hopping on trains after they deboarded
novel light
I don't particularly like being home, as odd as it sounds
Although I guess having my proper PC instead of being sentenced to a laptop helps
fossil heron
Theres going to be a jump in mental health issues when this is all done. Everyones gunna be stir crazy
novel light
I mean, yeah, it's draining... Not even WFH, just being stuck in your house in general
fossil heron
My wife is losing her mind
solid hinge
he keeps blowing up my messages
the isolation getting to him
im like "first time?"
fossil heron
Although i introduced her to BF and overwatch and thats helping
solid hinge
top of leaderboards on grind as medic
with 8 kills
my screen filled with shit ton of revive symbols at any given moment
novel light
I had a stretch with some serious job finding issues when I shifted from biotech, so being stuck at home brings some bad memories back
Although at the same time it pushes me even more to be useful while working
sick elm
Oh ffs, why am I still even bothering with Firestorm? So many teamers in Solo. DISGUSTING
novel light
Well, and I played a fair bit of BF recently, a bit more than usual
Pretty happy about getting to 100 Outpost wins
solid hinge
i didnt even get to play outpost much
winter raven
What's in the rotation this week?
solid hinge
ayo, someone on underground got the flame thrower
wary mason
@novel light
novel light
I will get to 3k kills
Eventually
Outpost is fun if you know what you're doing
Imo it's the 64p mode where a single person knowing their stuff can do the most
limber cave
Outpost is more fun that conquest and breakthru I think yes
limber cave
PB?
novel light
personal best
limber cave
ahh
fossil heron
Its like conquest but there's a reason to defend a single point rather than going on a capping spree
novel light
If you go to town on enemy towers, points fly like crazy
fossil heron
Pak40 + E point on Mercury =stonks
novel light
There is a different big brain thing to do on Outpost
Pakwagen
10k squad points for total smackdown on towers
tacit kelp
skin is also blocked on chat What a JOKE
astral ermine
I liked my first game of grind
novel light
I can see why Grind appeals to people... hard pass for me though. It can be fun tho
astral ermine
Now it's like regular conquest, getting crushed
As someone said before: base raped
But I'm surprised how many train maps there are
solid hinge
the smoke spam omg
astral ermine
Dear god with such obvious flanks you'd think my team would attempt to cover them
fossil heron
Limited game modes makes my butthole hurt
feral grotto
People still didn't realize you can go on the ground on twisted steel.. and you don't have to flank below the bridge on the railings
Or on the ground on Rotterdam
limber cave
@novel light Whats the deal with BF5 having no anticheat?
feral grotto
Mainly for people to ask questions
novel light
I'm not working on Battlefield, I'm working in localization
limber cave
ahhh
solid hinge
standing behind people spraying while holding ammo crate is pretty much never ending points
solid hinge
all of the support assignments want u to supply ammo pouches rather than ammo crate resupplies
which is super dumb to me
gray saffron
shiykd hyst count supplies globally yeah
feral grotto
what?
dense bone
all of the support assignments want u to supply ammo pouches rather than ammo crate resupplies
@solid hinge
wouldnt you want to be able to force your assignment being done rather than hoping people will use your supply crate?
feral grotto
with the supply crate you just hold it and run next to people.. its good enough
or drop it specially on grind in the middle
with medic i take only pouches.. i don't think i ever used a medic crate
gray saffron
should just count the supplies globally yeah* as in have it count both pouches or crate resupplies
feral grotto
but support, i take the crate
solid hinge
yea, u can resupply by holdin it and standing near them
feral grotto
the + with the crate is the +1 to your explosives/smokes
novel blaze
i miss being base raped
it was fun to take the jeep to the other side of the hill in firestorm bf3
solid hinge
i read that wrong for a second
feral grotto
are you going on a trip to vietnam when bf6 is coming out?
slender drift
in vietnam
@bronze rose we don't know if it's gonna be set in the Viernam war.
bronze rose
ik
feral grotto
they need to make battlefield gulf war
gray saffron
what we do know is that it is gonna be a large scale combined arms game 😮
feral grotto
that will make people fall in love with battlefield V
gray saffron
inb4 they remove conquest
echo turtle
Inb4 it's just a campaign
solid hinge
how many kills is like the decent amount in breakthrough?
feral grotto
depends
slender drift
they did what
@bronze rose not really. BF3 was set in modern times.
The fictional "War of 2014".
solid hinge
what're favourite classes my people
gray saffron
support, medico
solid hinge
honestly not a big fan of support, think its pretty shit
fallow swift
@solid hinge I have to say all of em are fun but if I had to pick one it would be assault for me just for the pure chaos of it ... but after that in a very close second support and medic
solid hinge
assault and medic
like you can't aim unless prone but when someone starts shooting it takes ages to get on the ground and scope
winter raven
Support or recon
solid hinge
well assault first then medic recon and support all tied together
gray saffron
well, that's like.. uhh,, your opinion man
solid hinge
i might be missing a trick or something but i dont get on with it
brave coral
that’s only with mmgs @solid hinge
solid hinge
shotguns are decent i think
fallow swift
@gray saffron nice LoL
brave coral
lmgs can be fired from standing no problem
solid hinge
i dont find mmgs all that bad
with the support class
fucking medic class tho what a beauty
brave coral
tbh i play more or less even amounts with all classes overall
dense bone
i read that wrong for a second
@solid hinge LOL i read that wrong too
astral ermine
Pls remove conquest
brave coral
a bit less recon and a bit more support if you look at my lifetime hours
slender drift
My new favorite support class weapon is the Madsen.
solid hinge
u dont need to go prone
brave coral
madsen is a beast of a gun
gray saffron
try BAR with support. if that doesn't make you fall in love with ze class... then you set the BAR too high ;D
slender drift
That gun is fun to use.
solid hinge
going prone in the middle of a fight is instant death
fallow swift
@solid hinge if you don’t like proning try lmg’s instead of mmg’s
brave coral
also uhh
solid hinge
team deathmatch is my favourite. watching a bunch of people used to long range maps on a short map is a gem
slender drift
try BAR with support. if that doesn't make you fall in love with ze class... then you set the BAR too high ;D
@gray saffron damn you.
brave coral
flamethrower on underground grind huh?
feral grotto
they said they added flame thrower to "regular" maps
solid hinge
jungle caribian or however the fuck you spell it, what a beauty
gray saffron
flamethrower is found on metro
fallow swift
Hey , which one of the bolt action rifles in medic class do you prefer and why ?
slender drift
None of them.
remote marten
Anybody got the servers for Ana?
fallow swift
😂
remote marten
*na
solid hinge
the jungle one