battlefield-legacy-titles

[broken stag]

tru

sks was my go to

the Mod wasn't what it used to be

lol

[fossil heron]

Then i just used the glock for up close

[broken stag]

Shoutout to my fucking AIRFORCE PILOTS IN BF3

MOTHERFUCKERS COULD SIGN UP AND FLY AN F35 IN TWO DAYS

[fossil heron]

My wife is playing BF for the first time

[solid hinge]

Wow I love how I've been playing the past 3 BF installments for the past 6 years and I'm still fucking awful. Fuck this

[fossil heron]

The learning curve is intense for new players

[broken stag]

Lt, don't lose faith homie.

I was trash on xbox for the longest time.

[fossil heron]

@solid hinge when you're tilted you do worse

[broken stag]

BF3 was a nightmare for me on console.

Skill curve is intense in that game.

[wet fossil]

Oof, choice between Fao Fortress and Giant's Shadow

[fossil heron]

You have to go in wanting to have fun. If you're not having fun you're gunna do bad

[broken stag]

Fao

Giant's shadow isn't terrible.

[fossil heron]

For conquest?

[broken stag]

Yeah, I wouldn't say there's really a straight up BAD map in BF1.

[solid hinge]

GOD DAMN

[broken stag]

There's maps that aren't great.

[fossil heron]

I think all the maps on bf1 are bad..

Best maps are amiens and ballroom blitz

[broken stag]

Saying that, you'd have to say the same for BF4.

[fossil heron]

And V

Too open

[broken stag]

Too open?

[wet fossil]

Ugh great the one functional stock server in Australia and emblems don't appear on it

[broken stag]

Complaint I've never heard before.

lol

[solid hinge]

I just spawned in at the spawn point, on the beach, and literally my whole team is running up towards the fucking obj, like giant flocks, yet im just in a little hidey hole, trying to snipe, mind you I've only shot about 2 shots, and ALL the snipers start shooting at me and I fucking die

[broken stag]

It's damn near impossible to make a battlefield map simply too big.

[solid hinge]

Why do I keep getting singled out???

[fossil heron]

No such thing as too big but it has ti have substance too

[broken stag]

which all the maps in BF1 do.

[fossil heron]

Nah

[broken stag]

Small towns everywhere, cover constantly.

Etc.

[fossil heron]

I forgot the name of the map but you spawn 1000m away from your gimme flag

[broken stag]

Sounds like you enjoy the COD maps.

[fossil heron]

Not even

[broken stag]

Amiens, Ballroom to an extent.

Metro and locker, yay or nay?

[fossil heron]

Nah those are meat grinders

[wet fossil]

I want my Rebel Phoenix dammit

[fossil heron]

Favorite maps are Caspian border and Shanghai

[broken stag]

Caspian op.

Shanghai...

Eh...

[fossil heron]

I love helicopters

[broken stag]

Levolution should be disabled and it'd be better.

Ah.

There it is.

lmfao

[wet fossil]

Helicopters are THE WORST

[broken stag]

Tow Missile running mf.

Lmao

[fossil heron]

Only vehicles i enjoy in BF

[broken stag]

I love planes in BF3-4.

And 1.

But I'm not great with them.

[fossil heron]

I suck with planes

Not patient enough i think

[broken stag]

And there are people who are like airforce fucking special forces motherfuckers in Battlefield 3 that could probably do 30 air missions in real life.

[wet fossil]

Oh so you can fly a fucking hellbeast helicopter but you can't handle a plane

[fossil heron]

Top 1% for plane spm is like 300 and thats lame af

[broken stag]

My SPM in bf1 is 3200

l0l

[fossil heron]

Mine was like 5000 and i found the game boring

[broken stag]

Your favorite battlefield?

[fossil heron]

4

By far

[broken stag]

Ehhhh...

[solid hinge]

I just want a revamped 4

[broken stag]

oof.

[fossil heron]

3 i probably would have a better opinion of if I didn't play it on console

[solid hinge]

Not another shitty historical game

[broken stag]

Ya'll must've not played 3.

Lmao

[fossil heron]

It was 12v12 on console

[broken stag]

Gunplay in 3 is GOAT.

[wet fossil]

The modern ones are the worst

[broken stag]

I remember 3 on console.

I played it on xbox.

Same with 4

1

and V

[wet fossil]

Fucking UAVs, APS, assault rifles on literally everything

[broken stag]

I've played almost all the BF games on console and on PC.

[fossil heron]

Lol

[broken stag]

So I know the experiences for all of them.

[fossil heron]

I think V plays very well but the variation is gimped

[broken stag]

Maps are trash in BFV

[fossil heron]

They are

[broken stag]

1 has some of the highest quality maps imo. BF3 is top of course, Grand Bazar is all that needs said.

4 has some good ones, but some bad ones as well.

[fossil heron]

Arras and Twisted steel are the only consistently fun maps

Grand bazzar was so good

[broken stag]

Flood Zone was great.

[fossil heron]

Still played well on console too

[broken stag]

Great map.

OG caspian best caspian.

[fossil heron]

The tanks weren't op because you could hide from them easily

[broken stag]

Firestorm on BF3 was better than 4.

The fucking cliff map on BF3...

forget the name

but awesome map for rush.

[fossil heron]

Damevond or however you spell ot

[broken stag]

Damevand Peak.

Yeah.

What else..

[solid hinge]

I hate this game, I really do

[broken stag]

OH SHIT

[solid hinge]

Why do I keep getting singled out

[broken stag]

NOSHAR CANALS?

[fossil heron]

Epic scout heli moments on that map

[broken stag]

KHARG ISLAND?

WAKE

[fossil heron]

Wake in 3 was the best

[broken stag]

1942's wake is good too.

no cap

[fossil heron]

Wake in V is boring as hell

[solid hinge]

I'm sitting at an objective that no one's attacking, nor defending, whilst everyone is on top of the other objective. I stick my head out for about 1 second and I get fucking sniped by some asshole all the way across the other side of the map

why me??

[broken stag]

I think I know the problem with BF1 maps on console.

They don't play fast enough,.

On PC, they're fantastic.

I never really had a problem with them on console though.

Personally.

Argonne is great.

Cape Helles.

Sinai

Passchendaele

oh boy passchendaele

holy fuck that map is good.

[solid hinge]

Aha yay, 1-3 kd again :)

Hey guys let's see how many times I can die before I go backshit insane

[broken stag]

Lol

countersnipe man.

I dropped 104 kills in a game, and nearing the end, half the enemy team was deadset on countersniping me.

[mental grove]

anyone here tryna squad up

asian servers

[solid hinge]

ok well it seems whenever I need a sniper rifle, I don't have it, and everytime I don't need one, I do have it

God I just fucking spawned in and get shot by a fucking plane!!!

What is it I'm doing wrong???

Just spawned in again, died again :))

Instantly

Ok but why is the whole enemy team centered on me wherever I go

[gilded spear]

Are you always spotted on spawn?

[wet fossil]

Oh man how I missed cavalry

When doing that my job is basically to just mess everybody up.

I impaled this one guy three times

[solid hinge]

kinda. It's pretty much impossible to not be when you're attacking on Iwo Jima

[wet fossil]

Fucking hell why does everyone like Ballroom so much

[viral sandal]

man fuck iwo jima

[wet fossil]

Stupid rooftop campers

[solid hinge]

yeah, fuck it

[viral sandal]

Send em crayon eating marines n fuc em sushis

[solid hinge]

And fuck Pacific storm. Can't do shit on that map

[ancient remnant]

Solomon islands, the best pacific, not much tanks and most importantly, no planes! it's not so open and have good hiding spots ; )

[fossil heron]

Ah yes

[ancient remnant]

rest of the pacific ones can fuck emself

[fossil heron]

Hidefield

PTFO? no. HFTFO

[wet fossil]

There's a fucking stream of people parachuting from the airship to the rooftops

Fuck off

[fossil heron]

Lmao

Are there spawn beacons in 1?

[wet fossil]

Only for infiltrators

Uuuggghhh why do they never have 100 stars on interesting weapons

GOD the SMLE III is so much nicer than the No.4

Its sights aren't fucked up.

Also I swear to god bolt actions actually fire where they're aiming at in this.

Do you have any idea how many shots I've missed because it feels like they put random spread on snipers in V?

Fucking seriously always with the hellriegels

When you set out to get 100 stars, you should at least try to be unique about ot

[solid hinge]

I hope they add mortars in the June update, they’re already in the game as props.

[fossil heron]

You would hope that

[wet fossil]

Having started to fight them again for the first time in two years, you can keep them.

Great for atmosphere, terrible to actually be under.

[noble field]

Heavy Bomber BF1

ilya muromets

[wet fossil]

The worst.

[noble field]

best girl

drop payload from above

[wet fossil]

But at least they aren't fucking bulletproof

[noble field]

its funny how 3 supports can kill it with lmg

[wet fossil]

Unlike a certain whirlybird son of a bitch in 4...

[noble field]

the guns on the bomber is annoying

why have a top turret that can only face forwards

[wet fossil]

Ugh seriously this damn server won't show emblems

[noble field]

should be able to shoot behind too

the rear gun is ass and should be on front

like the other lighter bombers

rear gun on regular bomber was good at disabling enemy planes

[sand wing]

[wet fossil]

Ugh shit I forgot how sluggish planes were in this

[sand wing]

On

[dry lake]

anyone wanna COOP BF3 PS3 tomorroww?

[native rain]

hi guys

is bf4 worth buying now/

i live in asia and dont know if anyone's still playing the game

[amber pine]

Idk

[noble field]

Anyway to defend first sector in Iwo Jima

?

feel like no one goes up the middle anymore into the two artillery pieces

[idle breach]

i only did it once

never happened again

[noble field]

everyone goes far left

and you get shot trying to defend

[idle breach]

no the secret is not how you defend good

it's about how ridiculously stupid attackers are

[noble field]

what bugs do you guys want to see in BF6?

[idle breach]

pillbugs

[sand wing]

A bug to that makes your body/viechle smaller

[wet fossil]

Do you have any idea just how much I missed having effective infantry rifles

[noble field]

you mean M1a1

that needs 5 bullets to kill

lol

while some kid with lewis gun blows your head off

in half the time

[prime pine]

I was one off from a 100 bomb on outpost

Oh well

They knew to be fearful of me lmao

[solid hinge]

I've been banned by punkbuster, but I'm not using cheats. I contacted punkbuster's administration but I didn't get a reply. How can I unlock it?
VIOLATION (GAMEHACK) 81679
help me...

[fossil heron]

@prime pine iwojima?

[sand wing]

Poop

[gray saffron]

😮 hackers do seem to get banned it seems

also just contact ea support

[solid hinge]

Good players seem to get banned as well

[wet fossil]

While it was great to be back in a proper BF1 server, the damn thing only runs stock maps.

Not even the French ones, which are, you know, standard now.

[prime pine]

@fossil heron Aerodrome

[fossil heron]

Very farmable lol

[solid hinge]

june update x box and ps4 should be able o play together

wut

are u serious or is that just wishful thinking

@solid hinge just a dream

[hollow shadow]

Afternoon

[solid hinge]

Morning

[gray glade]

Hi

[solid hinge]

morning

[sand wing]

After evening

[solid hinge]

After morning

[sand wing]

Mid Mornfter

[solid hinge]

midnight

,':)

[dry lake]

do i supposed to buy BF games on battlefield inside shop ??

[sand wing]

I do think so

[dry lake]

theyre cheaper tho but how will i download them ?

[gray saffron]

Wut, just buy em everywhere

Yer on pc right?

[dry lake]

On PS 3

[sand wing]

The online store

[solid hinge]

dang

[gray saffron]

Ah, you can buy them from psn store etc

[dry lake]

and i dont wanna buy disc-

[solid hinge]

ps3 pretty dated now

[dry lake]

lmao ikk

[solid hinge]

its all good

i didnt finally get a ps4 til almost 2 years ago

[dry lake]

i got them since 2010

and somehow manage it out to play it again

since this quarantining thing

[gray saffron]

Which one you planning to buy?

Which bf game

For ps3

[solid hinge]

im sure bf4 is the latest bf u can play on ps3

[gray saffron]

Yeah cause of its showong bfv or bf1 for sale, i wouldn't get it, cause it won't work on ps3 xd

[dry lake]

BF 4

[solid hinge]

Any1 tryna play hardline with me

[toxic ermine]

뭏

ANg

I hate anime profile

holly

shit

fukkkxx

[solid hinge]

screw off

[gray saffron]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[gray saffron]

@solid hinge

and be nice, asian name 😦

[solid hinge]

Sorry

[prime pine]

I'm stabbing so many people

It feels so good

[solid hinge]

Lol

[gray saffron]

#justserialkillerthings @prime pine

[prime pine]

They lay on the ground like the fucking rats they are they get the Japanese knife in them

Look

At least I'm not killing actual people

[solid hinge]

Lol

[prime pine]

416baby!

Good timing too cause I gotta get off

[solid hinge]

tfw u are constantly tryna finish a fucking whatever how many in one life assignment, and when ur a single kill from completing it your streak gets ended by a passive camper hiding in a bush somewhere

Do u have to be over 18 for this server

?

[gray saffron]

no, bodie proves that

;D

he's 12

[solid hinge]

Good

I'm 15

[compact oxide]

You have to legally be allowed on discord

[solid hinge]

Good

Is this the real battlefield server

[prime pine]

Its officially recognised as one

[solid hinge]

look at the blue check mark

It can always be fake

[gray saffron]

there are ea people on here and devs on here. though they rarely talk or interact. also not allowed to dm or ping them etc

[solid hinge]

theres no other bf server with it

[gray saffron]

also you made me lose my fish, way

[prime pine]

Huh

[gray saffron]

i was fishing in rdr2 and you were saying you were going off, got distracted and press the button to cut the rope

also you didn't go away D:

[solid hinge]

if u hit the piano on devastation, it makes noise

[prime pine]

Haha

[gray saffron]

as in shooting it or interacting with it?

[solid hinge]

i was hitting it, and a guy spawned on me and said "you alright pal"

shooting or melee

[gray saffron]

ah cool didn't know 😄

[solid hinge]

if u blow it up, u can see the strings get busted up

[compact oxide]

This is the official battlefield server yes @solid hinge

[prime pine]

Jer. 5 people witnessed me break a guy's jaw and stab him

I killed three of the guys squadmates, my two squadmates came in and died. I pursued the machine gunner and promptly did what had to be done.

[gray saffron]

😦

you monster

(says teh cat who just pushed another fisher into a swamp that was filled with alligators)

[solid hinge]

in gta 4, i'd walk into people and make them fall off very high places

[gray saffron]

haha

[prime pine]

At least the guy who got stabbed died quickly!

Goddamn!

[gray saffron]

meleeing feels so satisfying in bfv

i just wish we could collect dogtags like the good ol' days

[shy badger]

so fking dumb

[solid hinge]

dogtags looked better back then too

[shy badger]

The game keeps joining players into the team that has the majority

6 vs 2 rn

[gray saffron]

rip

whatchaplaying?

[shy badger]

scq

[prime pine]

Noot noot!

[shy badger]

noots

Can't have a normal scq game

it's either steamroll, or an unbalanced steamroll

[gray saffron]

(shoots both of you with a nooting 38t)

😦

[queen canopy]

tfw French loadout and uniforms

[gray saffron]

there are french resistance outfits

[queen canopy]

ye

Which are actually fairly close to French officer outfits

That weird scarf thing was worn by some officers

[gray saffron]

weird scarf thing :<

they're pretty scarf things!

[brave garnet]

Tankinabowl

[gray saffron]

Thomas the Tank Engine

@shy badger is it ok to remove the 42md tag?

[brave garnet]

You too

[queen canopy]

42nd Marines?

7th Mountain?

[brave garnet]

Heh

[gray saffron]

okay, now i want to keep the tag out of spite 😠

[queen canopy]

Imma take those tags

[brave garnet]

Same

[queen canopy]

(Or more likely get shot while trying but you know what we'll ignore that)

[shy badger]

Sure

@gray saffron

[twilit glade]

😋

[solid hinge]

boys wha

is bf scrims still a thing

[prime pine]

Yes. Comp is

[golden ocean]

My Churchill skin disappeared

Aberdeen or something like that

The yellow-orange one

for 20k CC

[slim pewter]

@solid hinge scrims and leagues are very much still a thing

[solid hinge]

you know you're in a camp fest when a tdm ends before even half of either teams tickets is half way depleted

"camping isnt that bad in bfv compared to other bf games" they say

[slim pewter]

Who said that

its the worst in the franchise by far

the addition of mmgs is a main reason if this

[stoic breach]

Its alot more than MMGs but yeah thats one of the reasons

[slim pewter]

yeah

[wet fossil]

Honestly BFV's gameplay changes encourage camping.

[solid hinge]

theyy wasnt even support

[wet fossil]

See, everyone's that much more fragile.

[solid hinge]

what tano said

[slim pewter]

its tdm

people play like reos in tdm

[wet fossil]

And awareness such as spotting has been nerfed hard.

[slim pewter]

90% of tdm mains are garbage

[solid hinge]

it be like this in every game mode

[slim pewter]

That shouldnt be an issue

[main coral]

does anybody know why i keep getting bullied for having an elite skin ?

[slim pewter]

but people hate not having a bit red carrot to guide them to the next enemy

are you good at hte game?

[wet fossil]

So, rather than risking themselves going into the great beyond, some would rather hide in a shrub and hope someone else is dumb enough to walk by.

[slim pewter]

yes

[prime pine]

People are assholes wing

Just ignore them

[solid hinge]

ignore those idiots

[wet fossil]

Honestly regular spotting's not a problem in any of the previous games.

[solid hinge]

they part of whats wrong with the community

[slim pewter]

@prime pine you old tomorrow

like today?

[wet fossil]

Shit, I'm pretty sure most players don't even know they can do it.

[main coral]

ye i knew that much but damm that dude

[prime pine]

I know right

May 18

[stoic breach]

It was definitely spammable, but it was to help teammates

[main coral]

that was a new level of salt i have never seen

and he was on my team

[slim pewter]

oh way

if I was close we'd have bevs

[prime pine]

Oh gus

[solid hinge]

i get kicked from squads for playing as elites

[prime pine]

Bevs?

[slim pewter]

It may not be the elite that is the issue

[solid hinge]

beverages

[slim pewter]

alcos

[prime pine]

Ohhhhh

Haha

[slim pewter]

few beers

[prime pine]

I drink whiskey!

[solid hinge]

i can guarantee it was cause of the elite

said elite was misaki

[prime pine]

A lot of people hate misaki

[solid hinge]

and my score was better than the squad lead

[slim pewter]

eh

i dont let it bother me anymore

new squad move on

[west marlin]

[main coral]

btw the elite mission for steve is so damm hard i have been trying for 3 hours to kill one plane in a plane

[west marlin]

whiskey

[slim pewter]

in saying that I play solo 95% of the time

[prime pine]

Im always in a squad for spawn points

[main coral]

got any tips ?

[solid hinge]

its a shame u cant even edit ur pilot class

[prime pine]

Hmm

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah I forgot

[prime pine]

Try flying the zero m5 and not to rush a dogfight

[stoic breach]

You guys remember that red dot that would appear above enemies

[prime pine]

Catch them off guard

[stoic breach]

Modern Warfare GW has that as well, but it works at a longer range

[slim pewter]

sit in a VA'

[solid hinge]

catch someone off guard thats being fired at by aa

[main coral]

thanks for the tip i hope to get it done soon cuz i hate planes so much

[slim pewter]

get enough points to upgrade guns and melt planes

[prime pine]

VA is annoying

[stoic breach]

And it might sound crazy, but no GW players have complained about the game helping them to kill people

[prime pine]

Due to wing guns

[slim pewter]

nah

[prime pine]

I rather bf109's 4 guns

[slim pewter]

easier to hit targets with wing guns

[prime pine]

VA does shred I will not dispute that

[slim pewter]

if you cant aim terribly well with nose mounted guns

[wet fossil]

Nose guns are by definition easy to aim with though

[prime pine]

Yeah I was thinking. Its a bit more preference based

[wet fossil]

Just point and shoot, no need to worry about convergence points.

[prime pine]

I'm getting used to the 1c's convergence point for strafing

[slim pewter]

by definition, yes. but if you aren't pin point accurate the wing mounted weapons enable you to spray a bit more and actually hit shit

[prime pine]

You have to find the sweet sped

Spot

[slim pewter]

I personally prefer wing mounted in bfv, but the guns in bf1 are mint to me

idk

[stoic breach]

Man, why is there a mission to kill a plane, why couldnt there just be a mission to farm 30 players on the ground instead

[gilded spear]

I find myself able to strafe better with nose machine guns

[prime pine]

Because killing the enemy team protects your team?

You get more points reliably for destroying the plane

[wet fossil]

What, it wants you to shoot down one plane?

Is that it?

[solid hinge]

yea

[wet fossil]

Cripes I could do that by accident.

[stoic breach]

You also drain more tickets by killing infantry

[prime pine]

Your team are meant for draining the tickets. Your job is to thin the enemy's out and take care of their vehicles*

[stoic breach]

Its still more profitable for planes on either team to ignore eachother and just continue to farm eachother's players

[coral fiber]

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/getmemedonlol/video/97472833
And you can do fun stuff like this

[stoic breach]

Jolly cooperation

[wet fossil]

If you're bringing a fighter up, it's on you to deal with enemy planes.

[solid hinge]

i hate that rule

[prime pine]

As asterisk is there because not every plane Can deal with ground vehicles

[solid hinge]

the unspoken rule of planes to not engage enemy planes

[wet fossil]

If you wanted to farm infantry you shoulda brought a bomber.

[prime pine]

Yeah and those planes can cause massive grief for your team

[wet fossil]

That's not a rule fuck you.

[stoic breach]

It is definitely an unspoken rule

[solid hinge]

its a unspoken agreement

[prime pine]

If you can strafe and farm people with a fighter that's fine and dandy but take care of the enemy planes above all else.

[coral fiber]

Yep

[stoic breach]

Just not on console because you cant use global chat

[wet fossil]

In what world am I supposed to see a jerry bomber making the rounds and not want to kick his ass with my Spit?

[stoic breach]

A world where you choose a better plane

Thats the issue with planes in any BF game, dogfighting is more often than not a waste of time

[coral fiber]

@prime pine so I got shot down by a Ju88c yesterday
Very interesting

[prime pine]

I choose the 1C and M5 due to their dual function. Good for infantry but their hmg's decimate planes

[stoic breach]

Plane minmax is the best you can do honestly

[prime pine]

Cannon or 4x20 mms meme?

[stoic breach]

Fighters shouldn't really exist unless they have good air to ground power

You're choosing to spawn a plane whose only job is to kill other planes

[coral fiber]

Yes

[prime pine]

That's literally why people pick fighters

[coral fiber]

That's what a fighter is no?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[prime pine]

For air superiority

[wet fossil]

And occasionally harass ground forces when there aren't enemy planes about.

[stoic breach]

Thats the same as picking an AA tank

Literally the same thing

[prime pine]

Your fighter can support other planes

A bomber can come in

[slim pewter]

Dogfighting > farming infy

[prime pine]

Like how a heavy tank can take tanks on and support infantry

[coral fiber]

Dogfighting is fun

[stoic breach]

Yeah, but an AA tank is only good against planes

And cant minmax

Same with how fighters are only good against planes, cant minmax

[coral fiber]

Oh shit remember when MAA obliterated everything

[wet fossil]

Sling rockets on your fighter and it'll do some damage

[stoic breach]

You're using a plane spawn to only reliably kill about 3 out of the 32 enemy players on the team

[icy sluice]

If an AA gets towed it's kinda game over now for fighters lol

But no one does that

[stoic breach]

Yeah towing AA is actually good

Its the only good towable

[icy sluice]

Towing is like the best thing in this game that no one does

[coral fiber]

No one utilizes it lol

[wet fossil]

Because it's bloody hard to hit anything when you're being jostled about

[prime pine]

That's why you stop the thing

[slim pewter]

can we get some relevant ps4 players

[stoic breach]

Towing isnt the best thing, its only good for AA because they can spin 360 degrees

[slim pewter]

this xbox talk is killing my brain

[coral fiber]

Attach it to the memewagon and tow it yourself
No need for someone to move you around constantly

[meager quarry]

I am looking for canadian Battlefield streamers with 1K+ followers, contact me directly if you are one.

[prime pine]

Haha

Never been a fan of Xbox have you hus

Gus

[slim pewter]

I mean no, I came to play and the playerbase is randier than ever

[stoic breach]

What does that even mean

Lol

[slim pewter]

spam the least skilful weapons imaginable and have no conceptualisation of balance'

[prime pine]

Shotgun!

[main grove]

That's of course why either

They go back to BF4 style vehicles spanws

So there's like 4 fighters to 1 or 2 bombers

[stoic breach]

Who cares about unskillful weapons, every weapon in BFV is unskillful

Except maybe the AGM42

[slim pewter]

wot

agm42 skilfull

[main grove]

Or just hasten the plane spawn timer

[slim pewter]

that's a joke

[coral fiber]

BFV is just unskillful altogether

[slim pewter]

surely

[main grove]

So that if you play dedicated Air to Air

You don't get bored

Who gives a flying fuck about skill

I sure don't

[slim pewter]

we know

[stoic breach]

Yea AgM is the only really skillful weapon because its better at headshots than bolt actions

[wet fossil]

People whined so hard about having to put effort into their aiming in BF1 that they went and took away all the fun bits.

[stoic breach]

Hahahaha

[slim pewter]

wot

[main grove]

BF1 has really odd console aiming for me now

[wet fossil]

Also, my god bolt actions in BF1 feel so good.

[stoic breach]

People whined because "RBD" even though BFV also has random spread

[slim pewter]

they added back snap aim in bfv because the randies couldn't aim

[wet fossil]

And their sights are actually worth a damn.

[stoic breach]

Yea BF1 ironsights are quite nice

[slim pewter]

bfv has less random spread and more predictable patterns compared to bf1 which was nearly entirely rand recoil patterns

[stoic breach]

They're actually like, unrealistically good

Nope thats wrong

[wet fossil]

Predictable patterns are for nancies.

[stoic breach]

BFV has no patterns

[slim pewter]

eh

[wet fossil]

Control your recoil by not spraying.

[stoic breach]

Its literally completely random

[slim pewter]

random for people who cant aim

most of the guns have a relative direction that they bounce to

[main grove]

Neither BF1 nor BFV have patterns

[wet fossil]

I swear half the time I feel like Colonel 100 these days

[main grove]

Not a single BF as far as I know uses patterns

[stoic breach]

BFV has low base spread so the weapon starts accurate and returns to the same point every time

[slim pewter]

bf4 is pretty predictable

[stoic breach]

Yeah spread has direction, its not a pattern though

[slim pewter]

not a spray pattern like cs

[main grove]

For the most part guns are just

pull down

and hope that h rec doesn't fuck you over

[solid hinge]

stg44 is pull down and to the right

[wet fossil]

The weapon starts accurate unless it's a bolt action in which case it's a 50/50 on the bullet actually going where it's supposed to.

[solid hinge]

left*

[stoic breach]

Yeah nobody realises that BFV has completely random spread

[solid hinge]

recoil goes up and the the right

[wet fossil]

Seriously what the hell is wrong with BFV's rifles

[prime pine]

Autos or semis?

[stoic breach]

People thought they were too strong in BF1 I guess

[wet fossil]

Meanwhile I come back to 1 and suddenly I'm nailing people like I never left.

[coral fiber]

Ahhaahaha yes
Random recoil

[stoic breach]

Like oh no, snipers that kill people at range

What a surprise

[wet fossil]

Lebel sights are so good.

Like, good enough to make up for the janky reload.

[stoic breach]

Lol yea

[slim pewter]

bfv rifles are fine

[stoic breach]

Lebel has a good niche

[solid hinge]

sniping in bfv> bf1

[coral fiber]

Random spread + Spread to recoil. = meme worthy random recoil

[main grove]

The only guns that felt nice to me in BF1 were the bolts

[slim pewter]

^^^

[main grove]

That was it

In BF5 it's the opposite

[wet fossil]

Every weapon class felt right to me in that.

[stoic breach]

YES LITERALLY THAT @coral fiber

[wet fossil]

Like they had real punch

Even the reloads felt more legit to me.

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

BFV bolts got a nerf in almost every area

Except RPM

the average RPM increased

[coral fiber]

Bf1 was ok as long as you didn't spam fire

[main grove]

But that doesn't really matter

[stoic breach]

The thing is, if BF1 weapons had the same low base spread as BFV, people would 100% say BF1 has better gunplay

[wet fossil]

And the RPM boost isn't any help because all the new animations prevent you from getting on target in time to take advantage of it.

Better gunplay is an illusion.

[icy sluice]

I have a clip of someone teabagging and wasting an entire browning clip into a dead body

[main grove]

M1919?

[wet fossil]

They just couldn't fucking aim before because they didn't try

[slim pewter]

I do that to a lot of people

[icy sluice]

And I can tell he recorded it

[slim pewter]

because they are idiots

[icy sluice]

Because after doing that, he turned around, stood still and then ran away

[stoic breach]

Yeah, you definitely had to use the gun properly in BF1

It took more effort overall

[main grove]

It would be nice if the game fucking told you in BF1

[slim pewter]

bf1 is easier than bfv by a long shot

[main grove]

Like how spread works

In massive detail

[stoic breach]

But thats the thing, BFV has the perfect base for easy but mediocre weapons vs BF1-style risk/reward weapons

But every weapon in BFV is just mediocre

Overall I prefer BF1's gunplay because weapons felt more unique

[wet fossil]

I've got such a handle on BF1 gunplay that I'm picking weapons not just for effectiveness, but for style points

[stoic breach]

Regardless of spread, it was just more interesting

Yee

[wet fossil]

Like you bet I'm bringing the RSC SMG, I only need nine bullets to take you all on.

[stoic breach]

Style is what BF1 is all about man

Based

RSC SMG is a great weapon in the right hands

It's actually a high skill gun

[coral fiber]

I was ok with BFV's spread to recoil shit but when I realized the spread was random I knew that wasn't right lol

[stoic breach]

Lol yeah

[main grove]

What exactly

Is wrong with BFV gunplay

Before you say it's easier

How is that a bad thing

[stoic breach]

Spread is completely random

[coral fiber]

Random spread + Spread to recoil. = meme worthy random recoil

[stoic breach]

Your camera is a slave to recoil

[solid hinge]

@main grove bf1 is god

[slim pewter]

you run standard everything I presume then

[main grove]

So how does this deter from the overall experience

[slim pewter]

It doesnt

[wet fossil]

It's just plain boring

[stoic breach]

The problem with BFV gunplay is that its almost really solid, but it just misses the mark by having aggressive screen recoil thats also completely random

[slim pewter]

the randies have zoom snap aim assist now on console

[solid hinge]

to me it doesnt but people will always see bf1 as end all be all i suppose

[slim pewter]

negates most of it

bf3/4 > bf1 any day in terms of gunplay and balance

[stoic breach]

Snap aim doesnt change vertical recoil

[wet fossil]

Assault rifles everywhere, bugger off and let me use a proper rifle in irons range.

[slim pewter]

lol

[main grove]

BF3 and 4 look so janky to me now when I watch them

Like so ugly looking

[slim pewter]

just dated

[stoic breach]

Also yeah about BFV weapons being boring, I actually do kind of agree

[slim pewter]

@stoic breach is the god of xbox oceania

big opinion

[stoic breach]

Yes its ((((opinion))))

[sand wing]

How are bfv weapons boring

[slim pewter]

lol

[main grove]

Imagine saying that when Way is in the server

[slim pewter]

I'd take way on in a comp match

[solid hinge]

Weapons are not boring in my opinion

[slim pewter]

@prime pine 1v1 comp match

[prime pine]

Wait what!

[stoic breach]

Yea and thats ok cause its your opinion

[solid hinge]

You just gotta switch em up

[prime pine]

Haha I'd get smashed

[stoic breach]

But I do miss the old silly weapons in BF1 that were good if you could manage them

[main grove]

BFV weapons do have less variety but I find on average it's more fun than BF1

[stoic breach]

Like the 1912 and the RSC SMG

[sand wing]

Wtf

[main grove]

BFV just needed more outlandish guns

Like stat wise

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

So many guns were just 500-600rpm

[slim pewter]

It just needs weapons that are viable outside of the meta, something bf1 had

[stoic breach]

Yea

[sand wing]

Are you guys in a different dimension

[stoic breach]

The Type 2A was actually a decent change of pace for BFV

[main grove]

I said they could have added the RSC SMG as a scout weapon

[slim pewter]

@sand wing no

what

[sand wing]

Lunge mine is wacky

[coral fiber]

All the lmgs have to same BTK
I just realized this lol

[slim pewter]

type 2a was not needed

[main grove]

LMGs have the same damage as ARs

[stoic breach]

Type 2A was a fun weapon that people enjoyed using

[main grove]

In BF5

[coral fiber]

Yeah

[sand wing]

M30 Drilling whacky

[stoic breach]

Which is more important

[sand wing]

Liberator wahcky

[slim pewter]

Type 2A gave people who otherwise wouldnt get kills, kills

[stoic breach]

LMGs really needed reverse spread to be different

[sand wing]

At guns wacky

[main grove]

Chauchat would have been a fun different weapon

[stoic breach]

And MMGs needed to be buffed to be viable

[wet fossil]

The 2A is a handheld MG-42 with far too much ammo.

[main grove]

if they released it

[slim pewter]

^^

[coral fiber]

It is coming im assuming

In June

[wet fossil]

You know what its role equivalent was in BF1?

The 1912 auto.

[stoic breach]

Dying to a gun in a bush doesnt mean its OP, anyone can hide in a bush

[wet fossil]

Which got sixteen rounds.

[sand wing]

Fliegerfaust wacky

[wet fossil]

Total.

[main grove]

I'd say automatico

[stoic breach]

Yea

[main grove]

Automatico was the T2a equivalent

[coral fiber]

Same thing with the M1 Carbine with the Thermal Scope
The xbox huge one

[main grove]

M1912 would be more like 20 round suomi

[slim pewter]

but its clip size was severely limited in comparison to the Type 2A

[wet fossil]

M1912 has a stupid high fire rate.

[coral fiber]

That's also coming in june im assuming

[wet fossil]

And it was balanced by the tiny mag.

[stoic breach]

1912 is only 900 now

[wet fossil]

That's the point.

[sand wing]

There's loads of wacky guns in bfv. Bf1 is bound to have wacky guns cause it's set in ww1

[stoic breach]

It used to be 1200

[main grove]

Automatico still had a super fast reload

[wet fossil]

'Only'

[main grove]

Why did they change that

[stoic breach]

Experimental is 1200 though

[main grove]

The M1912 going from 1200 to 900

[fossil heron]

Just got killed by a fliegerfaust for the second time in 3 days

As infantry

[compact oxide]

It's a ganking weapon

[prime pine]

Ohno creamy

[compact oxide]

Not really much different than a shotgun

[sand wing]

Bazooka back blast wacky

[fossil heron]

Like why

[stoic breach]

The Type 2A is basically just the poor man's SMG08

[main grove]

TBH I thought M1912 was really bad

Because of it's reload

[fossil heron]

First time was on Solomon island

[icy sluice]

Have you been taken out by a Boys AT before as a plane?

[stoic breach]

1912 is godly if you know how to use it

[main grove]

It's one of two BF1 SMGs

[slim pewter]

Which was also another gun that didn't need a buff

[main grove]

That are bad practically

[stoic breach]

Plus you can reload cancel

[main grove]

But more made for flexing

[fossil heron]

This time makes more sense on twisted steel

[solid hinge]

I like the Breda, it’s good at almost all ranges

[sand wing]

Nah

[fossil heron]

I dont fly enough for fuckywucky moments riptor*

[main grove]

In BF1 if you really meaned business you'd pick something like the Ribey

[stoic breach]

Rip Breda, cant believe it got nerfed so hard

[fossil heron]

Breda is still really good

[icy sluice]

It's still good yeah

[stoic breach]

Nah its hrec got fucked it used to be way better

[main grove]

It's not like other auto's also didn't get nerfed

[hollow shadow]

Hello

[stoic breach]

Rip Breda

[fossil heron]

Can kill someone with one pull of the trigger tho

[main grove]

Honestly

Close range breda is the way to go

[stoic breach]

Yeah, it used to be able to reliably do that up to 50m

Because of the hrec

[main grove]

The hipfire with faster burst rpm

[stoic breach]

Yeah, there's definitely a niche for that

[fossil heron]

Idk it still shreds. Maybe you're not comfy with it anymore

[stoic breach]

Nah I remember using it before nerf

[main grove]

I always go for the hipfire side on guns if they have it

[stoic breach]

It was alot better

[main grove]

Even semis

[fossil heron]

Nah

What the heck dweller

[sand wing]

Cringe

[fossil heron]

Such heracy

[main grove]

I don't like range

[stoic breach]

Yeah Gewehr 1-5 with hipfire specs is actually really good

Its a massive minmax SAR

[sand wing]

Jk

[fossil heron]

Dont use semis then lol

[sand wing]

I prefer semis on assault

[icy sluice]

M1A1 with hip fire is

[main grove]

I build hipfire on G 1-5 and Turner

[stoic breach]

If you can make SARs beat other weapons in CQB you've out-minmaxed them

Its really good

[icy sluice]

I am close to getting the silver dogtag with the Boys

[main grove]

I also always pick faster RPM on SMGs over the bigmag

[icy sluice]

Then I switch to the PzB

[main grove]

Like 20 round tommy

[sand wing]

I love the agm I think that's what's its called

[fossil heron]

6 1-5 is understandable but the turner nah

[icy sluice]

AGM is good

[stoic breach]

Yea, Thompson with fast RPM is good

AgM is also really good

[slim pewter]

ok

[stoic breach]

Its really good at sniping if you can hit headshots

[slim pewter]

I see we're casuals

[sand wing]

Well

[stoic breach]

And its got an extremely good TTK if you can hit headshots up close as well

Barely any recoil and 450rpm

With 0 damage dropoff

[sand wing]

I only consider my self a casual when around try hards

[hoary condor]

[main grove]

It's a spammy sniper

[sand wing]

Same with noobs

[stoic breach]

Yeah which is such a fun idea

Its why I like the M13 in MW

It's basically a sniper in AR form

[main grove]

When AGM 42 came out I thought it was a pure piece of shit

Compared to M1A1

[solid hinge]

@sand wing dont call urself a casual around try hards, it only strokes their shitty ego

[wet fossil]

AGM has zero recoil but it just doesn't have the actual power to really justify my using it.

[stoic breach]

Its a 5-6BTK with 900rpm and not much recoil

[sand wing]

Op my bad 😂

[stoic breach]

AgM has alot of power

It just takes ammo management to use

[wet fossil]

The irons are crap and the non-mag reload is bad enough that it made my stripper-clip loving ass pick detachable mags

[main grove]

Don't most COD guns only lose 1btk at range

[stoic breach]

Ammo economy weapons are the true skill cannons, at least by BF1 standards

Nah alot of CoD guns are decently balanced for range

[wet fossil]

At least it got the 2x scope...

[fossil heron]

Agm is probably the worst SAR

[main grove]

What on earth is the difference between the Kilo, the M4 and the M13

[sand wing]

Can you imagine the next Battlefield with stripper clips

[icy sluice]

lemme just snipe with an Uzi

[fossil heron]

Why use it when theres much better options

[stoic breach]

Assault rifles have generally the same damage model as battlefield games

Oh AgM is still one of the best SARs

Just by a little bit because they're all good

[sand wing]

Hail Agm

[stoic breach]

Karabin is the worst SAR

[main grove]

That's

What I pick to snipe

[stoic breach]

Gewehr 43 with worse reload, but it still kinda decent

Yeah they're all pretty good

[sand wing]

I just choose whatever

[main grove]

I thought Karabin had gentler recoil

Than G43

[stoic breach]

Karabin just happens to have the worst minmax

[icy sluice]

I actually have a higher KPM with the Karabin than I do with the G43

[stoic breach]

Yeah the better recoil is nice but that only helps at long range

[main grove]

Karabin feels smoother than G43

[sand wing]

When I'm with the Bois I go derp guns and lots of mines for launching jeeps

[stoic breach]

Its worse at minmax making it a worse SAR overall but its still pretty decent

[main grove]

But not able to start to compete up close mid like G43 can

[stoic breach]

It just is the worst, but its still better than some assault rifles

[fossil heron]

Karabin has the same damage model as the M1 garand right?

[main grove]

With heavy load

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

It uses the heavy SAR model

3 btk up to 100m

then it's a 4

[fossil heron]

Yeah I'll pass on that

[stoic breach]

M1 Garand has better minmax though cause of better reload and grenade launcher I think

[main grove]

I have a build for when I'm sick of metro

[fossil heron]

Just land headshots with the turner or the G43 and there ya go

[wet fossil]

Also bayonet which is always an improvement

[main grove]

It's Garand with grenades

Piat

[sand wing]

Don't not try the karabin

[main grove]

And frag launcher

[stoic breach]

AgM42 is better at headshots than either weapon

[main grove]

9 explosives

From one restock

[stoic breach]

The AgM is the best headshot SAR in general

[fossil heron]

I'd say the turner is the headshot king

Imo

[sand wing]

😬

[stoic breach]

Turner has the ammo yea

[fossil heron]

Go look at my headshots for it

[stoic breach]

Which makes it a solid stomper

[sand wing]

Ok

[stoic breach]

Oh i have no doubt that you can hit headshots, I'm not trying to disprove you haha

[fossil heron]

Usually my first shot is the headshot tho then the follow up is in the chest

Nooo thats not what i meant

Just from my standpoint i feel like the turner eats up headshots

[stoic breach]

Yeah I know what you mean

[slim pewter]

interesting

stat check is interesting

[fossil heron]

Ur not good guskit

[slim pewter]

i know

I don't need you to tell me

x

[fossil heron]

I feel bad now

[stoic breach]

Wew

[slim pewter]

Razen is better then me

its not fucking hard

[stoic breach]

Huh

Alright then

[slim pewter]

you in a team razen?

[stoic breach]

But yeah, I still prefer 5.0 SARs but in general BFV SAR design is pretty solid

No Im not

[fossil heron]

You called everyone casuals tho so i figured you were a sweet boy

[slim pewter]

o

I sweat'

but am bad

[stoic breach]

I'm not even that good at the game

Also I havent played it since october last year

[slim pewter]

I just lead gud team?

o

rip

[fossil heron]

Why not razen

Cmon man

[slim pewter]

probs a good thing for your mental health

[fossil heron]

Come back

[slim pewter]

this game is aids

lol

[stoic breach]

I'm enjoying MW alot more now

[fossil heron]

Oh

[slim pewter]

if MW had a FOV slider I'd be downj

[stoic breach]

Its got features BF needs

[fossil heron]

I wish i could still enjoy CoD

[stoic breach]

Oh yea

[slim pewter]

(on console)

[stoic breach]

I'm used to low FOV from years of playing Halo on 360 lol

[slim pewter]

fair

[stoic breach]

But yeah I wish MW had an FOV slider

[fossil heron]

Same lol

Although I play on 75 now and inch it up

[slim pewter]

I play primarily PS4, but only got an xb1 for bfv comp

[fossil heron]

Hard when you play on a big ass screen

[stoic breach]

I normally play 90 if I can

Yea

[fossil heron]

Gunna switch to a monitor soon tho once I have some disposable income

[stoic breach]

Yeah I play xbox primarily but I have a ps4 to play Tekken and shit

Yea

[slim pewter]

I came down from max fov to 74 slider and recently went up to 84 slider

[stoic breach]

Yeah normally i play 90-120

[fossil heron]

High hz and resolution monitors are more expensive than big ass tvs

Like why

[stoic breach]

Refresh rate

[slim pewter]

I just have a 60hz 27" monitor for my consoles

paid $80 (AUD) second hand and its solid

[stoic breach]

Lol didnt realise you were in aus as well

[slim pewter]

yeah man

[fossil heron]

I want 120hz 1440 tho for next gen

[stoic breach]

Shit aint cheap unfortunately

[prime pine]

I got a free Panasonic monitor and its worked out for me for years

[slim pewter]

I mean it feels better then my BenQ Zowie that I paid 350 for

[fossil heron]

Panasonic doesn't exist anymore tho

[prime pine]

I'm considering getting a new monitor but I'm not sure

\oh

I misread it

Its dark LOL

[fossil heron]

Whats the res and hz way?

[slim pewter]

next monitor is an acer predator for me

[prime pine]

LG

It's 1080 but

I'm not sure on its refresh rate

[slim pewter]

@stoic breach me and @prime pine are in the same team

[prime pine]

Or shit

Yep!

[slim pewter]

probs just standard 60hz way

[fossil heron]

1080 and 60hz will work for a couple years after next gen release

[prime pine]

Ike was here a while back but he got banned

[slim pewter]

I'm suprised I haven't been banned

[prime pine]

Yeah Im wondering if the new Xbox x can support 1440 with 60 fps

[slim pewter]

I don't share the same views in terms of the game

[fossil heron]

It can

[slim pewter]

no point tho

[fossil heron]

But developers are being lazy with their games

[slim pewter]

I'd rather 1080 and a more stable framerate

[fossil heron]

XSX can have a stable 120fps with 1440

Same with PS5

[prime pine]

Yeah same. I'm not for the 4K crap I'm here for a nice mid rate res and fps

[fossil heron]

But developers are pussies

It'll be a year or 2 before 60fps 1440 is the norm on console unfortunately

[prime pine]

After that norm I'd go for 2K

[slim pewter]

My goal is a 2K monitor

[prime pine]

And then leave 4 K for the distant future

[fossil heron]

8k is around the corner tho

[slim pewter]

IK my 1080ti could handle it

[prime pine]

Quote

could

[fossil heron]

1440 is fine tho

[prime pine]

It is yeah.

[fossil heron]

I want 1440 and smooth 120fps

[prime pine]

1440 120 fps would be a good norm to fall back to

Its a very high res and decent frame rate

[fossil heron]

Watch the next BF be 30fps and 1080 on next gen lol

[solid hinge]

im transitioning to pc before next bf comes out

[stoic breach]

MW can keep a stable high framerate pretty well