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oh yeah because they had finally realized they needed more time with wastelanders
What's funny is they're not even the same assets or animations from BF1, so they literally re-added guns like the ribey and 1906 for no gain
That's a big bruh moment.
They use completely different bolts, the reloads have to be different
BFV 1906 has completely different animations which are far worse than Bf1 imo
First I've heard about it tbh
yeah its the same reload
It can't be
It felt much nicer in BF1, my fav gun there by far
i feel like some animations overdone themselves
They would've been better off just copy-pasting the same animation and models (maybe with some touch-ups here and there) from BF1 into BFV.
oh yea 1906 in BF1 was so fun
It actually would've been sick to see the 1906 become an OHK but it fires a bit slower
Though it's functionally a lot more useful in BFV.
I love the 3btk 1906
Yeah
Frankly, I think that they should've reworked the 1906 Luger Rifle into more of a Pederson Rifle: toggle-lock action, but with an en-bloc clip like the Garand.
its a goofy weapon for people who cant use it, and its a fantastic primary for people who can
I used 6x at the start
@stoic breach I just compared the reloads. They're similar, but definitely different
6x? How the hell do you hit anything like that?
Frankly, I think that they should've reworked the 1906 Luger Rifle into more of a Pederson Rifle: toggle-lock action, but with an en-bloc clip like the Garand.
Well the gun actually existed, with that 5 round clip
they're similar enough to the point that it feels the same
Just only like 2 were ever made
tbh
recoil buffer isnt even a necessary spec for the gun
I just wish the recoil decrease wasnt fucked
The full empty reloads at least are very different
All of the SLRs are too floaty when they fire so they lose milliseconds of control because they linger in the air for too long
All the SLRs definitely could've used a buff
Including the ZH
And just removing recoil buffer as a spec would've been fine to offset it
Recoil buffer technically increases your rpm over range since your recoil is milder
You know how they made the newer rifles have clip reloads on the last bullet in BF1
With the MP40, you remove and hold the empty mag as you pull back and lock the bolt, then put in a new mag and release the bolt. With the Ribey, you change mags, then pull the bolt (which is on the opposite side of the gun from the MP40)
Why did they ditch that this time around.
I swear they forget the incremental improvements every single time they go to a new game.
lol
Like being able to customise vehicles without needing a free spawn
Clip reloads on last bullet?
@prime pine yeah its good like that
It took them so long to add that last time and then they just forgot about it.
There's a lot of things that are worse in BFV compared to Bf1
I just wish the SLRs recovered their recoil way faster and could one shot headshot at range
@wet fossil I mean technically you can customize in the Company menu but yeah in game its a little annoying
Because headshot balance for bolt actions sucks, but headshot balance for semi autos is actually really good
Yeah, I see enough ZH spam as is
buff bolt actions
Seriously there's something wrong with bolt actions in BFV and I'm not entirely certain what it is
Everything
Anybody know what the new maps r gonna be any idea what the battlefield chapter 6 is gonna be like
It's like they're just... worse somehow.
Custom scope zoom, crosshair, crosshair colour, two dogtags, better dogtags, melee weapons that break wire, service stars, comprehensive stats of the guy who killed you on your death screen
@unreal ore A desert map...and we don't know if there'll be another map
The BFV snipers dont have sweet spots
Service stars are the one thing I don't want coming back.
I loved service stars
sweet spots were annoying
I don't want to know how much you stick your dick in your STG, thanks.
@queen canopy thank u I was hoping for dday;-;
sweet spots were perfecty balanced
Getting oneshotted by snipers is annoying enough with just AT rifles
@unreal ore So were we, man...so were we.
Pure flex especially for people like me who use weird guns to be indie
At least without stars I can at least tell myself that they switch weapons on occasion...
yeah i have like 28 service stars with the M1912/p.16
fuckin
wacky guns are great
@queen canopy what u play on?
To be fair, we have no clue. They haven't said absolutely anything about 7.0. Maybe we're getting other maps, but we just haven't heard anything
I'm on Xbox
I've got like 31 with the Bf1 1906 I think
@queen canopy add me:3
and getting one shot by a sniper isnt a problem if you know where they are
100 service stars on the fighter lul
you can literally just go somewhere else and not be shot
Whenever I encounter a sniper, I just suppress him with MG fire.
tbh that just sounds like "bruh just don't get shot, problem solved"
Remember when suppression worked
BF1 remembers.
suppression worked to offset sweetspots
Get yourself an M1917 MG, deploy the bipod, and force your enemies to take cover for a while.
Suppression 🤢
"just don't get shot, lul"
You got bullets whizzing by your head, you ought to at least feel it
you can literally go somewhere else and not get shot
Who cares how much somebody uses a specific weapon? lol let them play how they want to
suppression stopped sweetspots from being too strong because you could suppress snipers
If they're the sort of guy who has 100 stars and has had them since fucking 2016, I fucking despise them.
suppression also needed you to aim at someones head to output it
you cant suppress someones legs
Because at that point it's clear that they're just incapable of adapting.
so its actually really helpful against people who are prone
especially snipers
I just realised a benefit of BF going modern or future
They can add sniper sweetspots back and add a rangefinder to the scope to help people use it more
Because at that point it's clear that they're just incapable of adapting.
That or they've spent a long time with a lot of weapons
100 service stars on the fighter lul
BFV weapons having really low base spread funny enough would've been able to suppress snipers really well
Because at that point it's clear that they're just incapable of adapting.
But they've adapted to using that weapon in particular.
BFV bolt actions could've actually had sweetspots and they would still be weaker than BF1 snipers
if suppression actually worked
I love running Lee-Enfield with ironsights
In BF1 for instance I had 85 SS with the Farquhar hill optical but only 31 SS with the 1806 factory. I still preferred the latter but it was much much harder to get a high KPM with it
Basically a matter of having higher kills with easy weapons when you're not feeling up to skill for better skill cannons
yeah
man people always complain about easy weapons but they're so chill
like even if you're the best player in the world you're still gonna want to use an easy weapon if you wanna just kick back
Parabellum was my bae for those times toi
lol nice
Just run in and burrr
Burton was amazing
such a good idea for a weapon
I loved Chauchat
that gun made pilots cry and it was hilarious
Technically the general Liu was better overall with how it's a sniper and dmr but I had to be VERY on the ball for that gun
Is the customization even coming to tmw’s update I didn’t see it in the patch notes
The General Liu kicks ass.
They never expect the medic to start sniping.
hahahaha
It's great, you just need to not miss your shots like I do
My favorite gun to use on Battlefield 1 is, without any doubt, the M1909 Benet Mercie.

everybody gangsta until the medic starts sniping
1906 factory was actually my defacto sniper
Benet mercie looked so nice i just wish it didnt suck
I loved using the Benet Mercie.
cause its fun to use
Exactly!
I always saw it as one of the most balanced LMGs out there.
3btk any range with zero recoil and fast fire rate
It's a fun gun.
ye
It just worked, it never needed nerfs or buffs.
Man theres so much value in a fast RPM ranged gun
Benet storm was my best LMG for over a year
In MW one of the best ranged assault rifles is the M13 cause its a 900RPM 5-6 BTK with no recoil
Everyone always favours sheer rate of fire.
Its basically the AEK from BF4 but better at range
That's such a boring way to go about it.
I like it cause it sucks in CQB but its good at range and its a fast rate of fire
Unless it's the 1912 automatic
so its like this really interesting niche weapon
In which case it's funny as hell
Everyone always favours sheer rate of fire.
@wet fossil cuz everyone has the mindset of "faster fire rate = faster TTK".
the 1912 is still by far my most used gun in BF1
I love that shit so much
BRRR
I just wish they kept the 1200rpm 5BTK version
The experimental was amazing.
@wet fossil I beg to differ, remember the RSC in BF1
1903 experimental was a sleeper gun
God I wish the BFV RSC was as strong as it was in BF1
When they finally added the bolt mode to the 1903 I got some good use out of it.
Got me MVP on fort a couple times
I'm always an infantry sniper.
So 1903 iron sights is perfect.
It's so smooth
Funnily enough I never really used it after the alt fire
I was more into the Russian trench by then tho
I used it to plink people at range
not even really to kill them
just bonk them
russian trench is a great idea for a weapon
fast rate of fire and one headshot kill up to 70m or something
The RSC/AL8 in BFV should've been like that
Russian trench was an RSC with a headshot option
Yea
the SLRs in BFV should've been able to kill with one headshot
theres no reason for that not to be the case other than artificially limiting them so bolt actions can keep their headshot meme status
Then there'd be zero point in using the bolt actions
yeah thats right
Exactly
They're already limited as it is.
bolt actions need to be able to bodyshot kill
a combination of medium ADS + sweetspot and slow ADS + OHK to 80m would be ideal imo

I use the Infantry myself.
ye
Just a great lever action.
yeah definitely is
You know, I still wonder why that lever action shotgun never came into the game.
1903 experimental, only gun with that quick and steep drop
Hai
It'd fit in BF1 perfectly well.
What year was it...
It'd fit more than in bloody Modern Warfare at any rate.
but yeah, if something like the Krag was an OHK up to 80m with a slowish ADS speed, and the Kar98 was like 80-120m sweetspot that would actually be good
hahaha
lever action in MW actually pisses me off so much
i fuckin hate that gun
god sakes that theres an hacker on BF1 and he somehow got autobalanced to the other team 😩
How is everyone doing on this fine evening
I genuinely believe DICE doesn't have the ability to ban hackers.
rip
Let's play this game, what's this gun?
aleast it's BF1
Given how they're so utterly blatant.
uhh
the fairfight should be able to detect it
russian 1895
Martini?
Well it clearly doesn't
although it's been like 10 minutes so
fuk
trench
hahaha
Martini it is
Because these fucking hackers have been doing this for years.
Yay
Bonus points to spell it right
What's anoter shitty gun
Vitterli-Vitalli?
Kolibri?
yay
Gg
I love the idea of that gun
But spelled differently
Too slow fire rate for its effective range.
I can never spell it
nah
A weapon that fires a bullet with a specific window in which it has more energy for whatever reason
20-40m sweetspot is goated
if that gun had a faster rate of fire it would actually be OP as shit
If you're that close to them, you want to be able to follow up quick.
Sweetspots piss me off
It's also only got four bullets.
I feel so proud because I never looked at the stats before 
Next; this is a sidearm
you dont want people to get one shot that close so quickly
they better nerf the fucking m2 carbine in this update
Obrez
obrez
@deep forge why its fine?
It kicked ass when it came out.
Not obrez
oh shit
Mkv rebolver
THE M2 CARBINE IS SO FUXKING ANNOYINGG BRO ONG
Closer but not mk4
Madcuzbad?
Seriously though enough with the damn high fire rate guns
Is it the gasser?
It's an instakill on body at close range.
wasn’t even used in ww2
Only option I can think of is the Obrez.
That no.3 revolver
like once
haha nice
So what?
No3 it is
Yay
Jeeps weren't being launched by dynamite either but here we are
The Obrez was always funny to use
Used that a lot as trench raider
It doesn't need a buff dog
yeah I run my medic loadout as AL8.35/Obrez
Whoops, I'm out of ammo in my Mosin, better pull out my other Mosin
Its a close range AR
Obrez was dumb af but I appreciated it
Mhm
dog?
dawg
The Webley Mk VI, now that is a sidearm.
I can't believe it took until Apocalypse to actually add it to the game.
Damn thing is iconic.
Remember how long it took to add the Carcano to the game
Can't even remember
when italy had been in the game since launch
I feel lucky that I can remember these things
But they did have that obscure and finicky auto-revolver version...
the auto revolver was so fun
it was definitely popular for a reason that thing was fucking brutal
Probs last for now
actually makes me wish class-restricted pistols was back in BFV
holy shit
what the hell is that
Wtf is that
Anti material rifle off some sort
maybe not i guess
Remember that being at 100 doesn't necessarily mean it does 100 damage
fug
Field gun
BF1 is kinda dumb with that
hahaha yeah
So basically just the dropoff point is the clue
It's like a lazer
Is it the M95
Nuuu
dang
AA
Ding ding

Wtf did I say AA
lol
I mean the RSC is basically AA
Except for that quick drop off
I preferred the optical variant tbh
Once you get used to the weird bounce it's a veritable sniper
I dont think the spread difference was that bad considering its 2BTK
Yeah unlocking it was a pain in the bum
that was my medic main for so long
This was a fun game
Glad you think so 👍
Optical sights take too long to ADS

2x irons is where it's at.
the ADS time doesnt matter when its a 70m 2BTK
Bonus round
aw shit
Oof
Not sure if there's many guns with this model
is that the obrez
If you can't hit them accurately with irons from that range you got problems
It's a primary
dang
If you can't hit them accurately with irons from that range you got problems
@wet fossil yeah it's called being shit at the game
Reckon it's a shotgun
is it the uh
Nope
carcano
Fedorov
General Liu rifle
Neither
Hellreigel?
RSC SMG?
Gas Mask
lol
Lol
On gas mask
Hint: assault gun
fuk
Smg o8
Nope
i guessed that before
Not necessarily high damage
Automatico
The bane of everyone's existence
Hooray
Seriously though the RSC SMG is such a fucking meme gun I love it
Lol
Its actually a good gun in general
I had an old clip with the Automatico
Yeah but oof that ammo
RSC SMG I wanted to like but it was horrible to me
It was a 3-5BTK but i kind of wish it was 2-5
Imagine a man jumping around the front of Fao Fortress, getting about 10 kills while dodging snipers and tank cannons
Yeah
But I hold it down
yeah same
BRR
Ah damn I left some of the mag in there
hahaha
It's more of a chk-chk-chk
That's your hint then
yeah true
That is the RSC SMG
😩
Nope
6 rounds, plenty in reserve
is it the 1917 trench?
That has a lot of bullets
Lol
Fyi this is the RSC SMG (boring drop)
It's not bad but boring for the guessing game
Nope
Frommer stop

Secondary and not Frommer
o
Mescghetiple
Neither
Nope
Auto revolver
is it that quad barrel pistol
That's the howdah
I'll give you a hint, I've never bothered to try and get a kill with it
Howdah
Nope
what a hint
Kolibri
wtf
Is indeed the kolibri
that graph is misleading
I never thought I could guess the guns
Lol
Yeah yeah
If possible if any chance custom made FMJ or hollow point rounds for the kolibir
I still can't believe someone built the damn Kolibri as an actually serious attempted at a personal defence weapon
And people bought it
Okay defs last one, this is the gun thaf would make people rage
It's a wonder of the workd
But did it actually kill
Theoretically...
Martini Henry?
I wonder what kind of gun it is 
Knife
But it could be stopped by decently thick clothing and was tiny enough to lose in your own pockets.
Bayonet charge
Scooter?
Melee probs
SMG-08
WHY CANT WE BE FRIENDS WHY CANT WE BE FRIENDS IVE SEEN AROUND FOR A LONG LONG TIME
It's a Model 10-A

@vague silo Cool it with those caps
It's the AEK-971.
What
Model 10-A hunter
Fun gun
Oh.
So that's with the extra range of the hunter variant
Seven nation army Nightcore
good lord
Yes indeed Good lord
Despacito.
I’ll find a Despacito Nightcore
Hmm

hello im new to bf1 about a week ago
Despacito nightcore ft Alvin and the chipmunks
Hello there
Hiya
General Kenobi
Have you come to memorise which guns have which damage drop offs too? 
Ahh no ahahah
What I learned looking around is lmgs have real boring damage drop offs
I was hoping to find a platoon in asia pc if thats cool?
Thats diff from platoon recruitment right
Okokk thanks
@compact oxide why is platoon recruitment forbiden?
Just so long as you don't actively recruit you're cool
I don't understand a sh@t of what are you talking about?
@tough lodge myriad of reasons, but basically we tried it a couple times and it was pretty bad in various ways so easier to just say no
It's been 2 months since I last played this game. Internet cafes still not allowed to open
I usually play alone then i saw found this discord hoping to find ppl

Do you guys like bayonet charges?
Bayonet charges are so much fun
No one ever expects them
Plus if you do it at the right time you can tell when the other guy is actively panicking and shitting himself trying to kill you before you impale him
I only ever used them for elites in BF1
Hide in the bushes, ambush enemies, retrieve stained pants
Ehhhh, locks you into an animation too long for my liking
Kinda want more bayonets for the jap machine guns
Also, victim cannot be revived
Same with the smg
https://youtu.be/SewpndxZDl0
But this is the 1 best nightcore
https://youtu.be/4KCahevRccY
And this is the 2 best Nightcore
Dunno
Then why are you linking them?
He went to look for stuff just now
Showing you the best noghtcores that’s it
So missed out the current conversation
This isn't the chat for them
Technically
Actually
Now, if it was a Nightcore about the bullet drop characteristics in BF1 you'd be good
The Americans could’ve listen to nightcore
Will there be a trailer for the June update for BFV
You assume there will be a June update 
There will be
The jap pilot is coming with Steve right
Yeah, more than likely
Do you Europeans like Nightcore

Bet the Brits listen to Brit country nightcore
Let’s move on
Indeed
Nightcore version of Zajdi Zajdi
What’s the best Support gun
Kinda want that 5 man squad tho
imo, Parabellum or the Pre-order BAR
Feel natural
Is the MG42 good
Very good but also not so
All mmgs are good
It is really, really powerful but it limits your mobility
What about Kar98k for recon
Kar98k is good for long distance
Oh
I personally prefer the Gewehr M.95 for the Lightened Stock perk
Why’s that
Move faster when aiming down the scope
Oh
I'd thought the Kar98K would be pretty good at medium ranges for a bolt action
Would probably perform like the Arisaka or Krag-Jorgenson
Or a jap revolver
SVT-40 would probably perform like the M1 Garand
I wish they got to the eastern front
Did the Japanese have a revolver?
Yea
Yes
Oh the Type 26
in real life yes
I mentioned it before
in game no
Yea that one
Tell me two thing you wish that was in BFV
Preorder bar is a sleeper hit
It's the BAR with a bipod
Or the Japanese Luger
Problem with it is you always have to swap to the fast rof on spawn
That’s a nice one
That's the only problem
Or better yet a Japanese Luger carbine
japanese garand
Japanese bazooka
(Basically a piat)
I wish the Bf1 gunplay was in BFV as well as all the Bf1 maps
That's my two things 
Type 5 would be nice
I wish they added the King Tiger 2 and the Soviet Union and Panther
i wish the game was good
Your name triggers me so bad
List that I wish that was in BFV
I wish BF5 was just BF1 but more refined and able to really lean into the WW2 setting
It needs to be buffed though
Italy in bfv would’ve been nice
Factions for BF5 wish list: Italy, Soviet Union, France, China
Maybe French and Polish resistance
Problem with France is that they got kicked out of the war pretty badly and by the time they came back they were running pretty much nothing but British and American weapons.
Though I suppose you can fill out their vehicle inventory with British and American tanks and whatnot.
That doesn't stop DICE from setting it in 1940 despite the anachronistic equipment
Maybe the ARL-44 if you're willing to go with prototypes that never saw action during the war and was literally made of wood at first.
Players are using the STG 44 in the Battle of France
Faction locked weapons would be so much worse than it is now
What if battlefield had reinforcement classes like Battlefront 2?
- Soviet Union
- King Tiger 2
- Panther
- Russian Guns
5 Some Europe Theatre maps that the Americans fight on - HE-111
- B-17 Bomber
- Michel Bomber
9 M18 US Tank for European theatre - P-47 and P-40 Warhawk
- Some Soviet tanks and Soviet planes including the Yak
- Springfield US sniper rifle
- Panzer 1 and 2
- Jagpanther
I mean true
Where the hell does the King Tiger even fit on the balancing though
It'd need something to counter it
BFV should've just been a big DLC for Bf1, change my mind
But would be nice if the weapons locks had more weapons for the. Factions
Like make it fair
Two games worth of content, carry over the old WW1 weapons to WW2 but add new ones
Pershings, I suppose.
- Polish maps and Polish Army
- French Army
17 Italian Army and Italian weapons even though we might have some - Australian Army
And Pershings yes
I mean for more factions it’ll be more like Arma ww2
Maybe it could be asymmetric
Maybe Centurions if you're willing to bring a prototype in that was so good it served well into the Cold War
Which would be lovely
I mean yeah it'd be cool to have all those obscure factions but people don't realize how much of a pain it'd be to implement them
Asymmetric gameplay fucking sucks.
And that would make BFV so much Better
And have them be balanced or as fully fleshed out as other factions
True
It would feel Complete
If anything Arma could do that
Arma doesn't have to appeal to a broader audience
I would play that game if I had a pc
Russo-japanese war
That was a real battle yes
1905 I think
Soviet invasion of Manchuria 1945
I tried Arma 3 but I loathe that slow gameplay
They need to do a BF Korean or Cold War
Everybody's cheering for Vietnam
I think it's better with friends
Or a remasted Vietnam war
True
but what if we go to Cold War Africa
hey
Na just US vs USSR
NATO is a thing
if i own battlefield 5 on ps4 can i get it on pc for free
NATO vs Warsaw Pact
no gameknight
o ok cause idk why my friend had it
What's the updated Twisted Steel thing about in #game-news?
i thought he said something about tha
Oh
People are gonna camp on the bridge
Unless they remove the bridge which would also suck
Gets shot from the high ground
Are they in the trees
No they’re in the bridge
@stoic breachthey put invisible walls to prevent campers
👽
Wait I have a Brilliant Idea of a Battlefield game
Ok
me too
Aaaaaand
Lol
we should make a cartoony asf ww2 era battlefield that includes women and just sucks as a whole
Or Battlefield Area 51
Invasion of Afghanistan
Or Battlefield Australian Toilet paper war
😂
Now that’s what I want to see
Ok let’s be real now
Looking at BF5 concept art, I feel like people would take the women better if they didn;t present them as they did in the reveal event
we should make a cartoony asf ww2 era battlefield that includes women and just sucks as a whole
More like, let's start making that then bail out after the initial negative feedback and just make it a tepid game
What about
A cartoony spin on BFV would've been way better
Battlefield Heroes
Battlefield Midel east war aka Battlefield 7
That's just BF3
I mean
and BF2 to some extent
Battlefield hero’s
BF6: Revengenance
Rising Revengeance
BF6: Metal Gear
Exactly
*mobile game
build your empire
Yeah
atttack your enemies
That’s a great idea
Screaming Soldier icon
upgrade your hero
Battlefield shadow legends
Gonna go tickle a little tank
Battlefield mobile: Rise of powers, play free on the app store
What about Battlefield Roman War
Roman time BC based
Mordhau
That just reminds me of that game about the confederate shit in america idk
Dont know shit about american history
Do you know what BFV should do as well
It was the north vs the south
I would like to be able to beat the shit outta someone in BF
? why
Yea
@drowsy pendantwhy not
America vs america game
good point
And its stupid because you only get a musket and you can teamkill
And one person always has to carry a flag and no gun
Like why
lol everyone is just gonna have the same gun
Battlefield V should do battle of pearl harbour Map and Battle of Darwin map
No like, why would anyone want to play that
actually that already is bf1
assaults abuse hellriegel
medics use tf out of the federov au
supports abuse the mg19
I mostly used the Mondragon
and snipers abuse the martini henry
1907 is the real medic gun tbh
Battlefield American civil War 18 century
like literally everyone using the same guns
nobody uses trash guns like the 9 gage
Yea cause they see other people using it
Like what a musket
That's what they said about WW1
The Fedorov isnt even that good
i know
There's always a meta dude
400rpm 4BTK is basically a fully automatic pistol
Alabama vs US army if I’m correct maybe
People follow the trends even if they actually suck
99% are the meta @compact oxide
Its only good at long range but even then you get fucked by spread and mag size
well for noobs the gun is good enough
Eh
Federov was good for aggressive medics who wanted suppressive fire
Yeah but the M1907 was already better at doing that
it doesn't even do that much damage
the autoloading just gets the job done better
M1907 was 360rpm 3-4BTK with 31 round mag
Honestly medics in BF1 use heaps of guns
Yeah
not to mention the ironsights for federov are absolute trash
literally can't see what im shooting
All the medic weapons are solid in their own way
at least i can see with the regular medic guns
1907, Mondragon, Selby 1916, federov,
Cant say the same for BFV though, rip smg medic
Smgs on medics just makes me mad
Still though, I'd rather see assault rifle medic than SAR medic again
Only the MP34 was cool and that's because it's a hawt piece of tech in general
So SARs can stay superior to ARs that way
Yea MP34 is nice
I wish it had better damage though
SAR medic was both BF4 and 1 and they worked
Like 4-6BTK for an smg
like i get the kolibiri sucks as a joke
I love the 1903 experimental
Its actually a really good gun
It's great
i love not seeing what im shooting
Kolibir needed a bayonet
^
You just use it on fort
You can hipfire it
There isn't a silencer on it
Also yeah, SAR medic is really good but I'd prefer AR medic because SARs can remain stronger at range by being balanced for a different class
Assault with SMG/SAR can occupy close and mid-long range, while AR medic occupies mid range with more flexibility
M1907 for close, Breda for long
Only the other silenced rifle and the 1911 have silencers in BF1 and it was mainly for the noise
But because they're more niche it takes slightly more effort to hit those other ranges
Thats why I like the idea of AR medic in BFV
the c96
Like not changing anything but your experience using the gun
thats the one i was talking about
Suppressed m1911 just for the flex
literally what is that
Ah ye
you cant even see what you're shooting
I forgot ye silenced c96
Mkvi revolver for all kit consistentness
it's so bad it's like the devs don't want you to use it
Taschenpistole is best sidearm tbh
The C93 should've been like a 3-3BTK sleeper gun
Kolibri is the best sidearm
Nou
Baby Nambu would be lovely than the liberator
Getting these gold AT-Rifle Dog tags are a pain
You needed 100 kills with the light tank to get the suppressed C96 from memory
I never got out of my tank so lmao
One thing I would've really liked to see in BFV is class specific pistols
Thanks for giving me something I'll never use
Seeing as I never spawned as a tanker that wasn't going to happen for me
So that the recon carbines could be secondary weapons instead
dude no cap
Frommer auto sidearm 
the repetier pistol experimental is broken
The tanker weapons becoming a part of the class weapons in BF1 was really nice
its literally insane
Its not broken, its just really good
it is arguably better than automatico
Or really nice to use
literally lazer kids
It's pretty crap imo
its insane
I kinda like it but I still like the full auto version better
I don't like using a sight on a gun that close range
You have to admit though
Irons would be better
Its a really nice optic
Imagine if we had a baby Nambu instead of the liberator
I would love that optic on more guns
I do like the red dot in BF1 but only on SARs
Yeah
Oh yeah I forgot to mention
Having the frommer stop auto as a sidearm wouldnt be that bad
Like my farquad hill
Because its not actually that good
I got every weapon kill related achievement and fucking damn that grind
Just cut down the max ammo to like 3 reloads and its fine as a crappy but fun G18 for WW1
Pistol Carbines should've either been in Assault or Scout because why the fuck would I switch out a machine gun with 2x the rate of fire, 3x the magazine size and like 2x the range? 
Frommer auto is a faster deploy automatico with less bullets
Yeah but also shitty spread
And yes, I know the Springfield Experimental
the maschinepistol experimental is a faster automatico
Hmm, pistol Carbone or parabellum 
No you know what
It was 1200rpm 5BTK
Isn't the Maschinenpistol Experimental a 2 round burst?
Now its 900rpm 4BTK
thats like the fasteset thing after the model 10 hunter
Pistol carbines should’ve been for pilots and tankers
it is 2 round burst
The experimental yeah

Yeah its pretty neat
Its still kinda eh
If you have a really good trigger finger
I dont think its that strong
not even a good one
Too bouncy for me
Fastest a human finger can go is I think like 400-500rpm
two shots at effective range does about 50 damage
aka 1 shot with two round burst
its 1200 but a 2 shots burst bro youve never used it
Prefer the automatico storm if I have to force myself to play assault
exactly
I was a Support Main with the Parabellum back then
i can press the trigger twice and get a kill fast asf
basically a model 10 hunter
pretty sure it has a wait time
except i can shoot further
it doesn't
literally does not
it's one of those broken guns that nobody uses therfore there is no nerf
Nobody uses it because it's kinda eh
leme check it
You need a really, really quick finger to utilize the full 1200 rpm
exactly
I can only click like 400 rpm max
double that it's 800
it only has 16 rounds
which is enough to kill a couple dudes
you're not breaching with the machine pistol
Okay...?
ok
It also doesn't have good range
Its practically the same as the automatic version but you dont waste as much ammo
well i don't expect it to
Its not really broken its just easier to use
