didn't seem so GRAND
#battlefield-legacy-titles
muted pier
muted pier
y'all never heard of dem
dense bone
people like you are the worst
untold wraith
LMAO
fossil heron
Hamada is fire on Frontlines tho
charred heron
If that is false advertising to you, then the bar must be really low
dense bone
as you are proving
muted pier
for uhhh expecting developers to hold up a standard
y'know
not break their uhhh
promises
untold wraith
I’m amused
muted pier
guess that's uhhh
fossil heron
If you bought premium it would be false advertising
crisp nymph
I mean they did have a few weapons shown for chapter 4 that didn’t come out
untold wraith
No one promised you shit bro
idle breach
honestly there were some missed delivery they promised, but false advertising doesn't really work that
fossil heron
Did you buy premium for BFV?
muted pier
uh they sort of did?
dense bone
FoR eXpeCtiNg DeVs To HoLd Up A sTaNdArD
muted pier
it's uh in the website
main grove
You bought a game with about 8 maps base and got the rest for free
muted pier
new grand operation with every chapter
untold wraith
BFV was advertised as a game, you bought the game, you received the game.
dense bone
BFV was advertised as a game, you bought the game, you received the game.
@untold wraith this
idle breach
@muted pier yes you're right, but that doesn't hold up in most court
muted pier
they uhhh showvased weapons and cosmetics that never released
untold wraith
You have no case. You did not get scammed.
muted pier
no, of course it doesn't hold up
idle breach
that also
dense bone
it doesnt hold up but here are you parading like you have a point
muted pier
kind of crazy how
dense bone
?
dense bone
you just admitted that you are just trolling
untold wraith
idle breach
no like
dense bone
fact of the matter is you have no case
untold wraith
You good bro?
dense bone
you know it
muted pier
games industry is unregulated as fuck
dense bone
congratulations
idle breach
if you advertise some game like "this game support Xbox live" and it doesn't it's viable claim but
dense bone
go take it on yourself
muted pier
that's why they can get away with this stuff, legally
solid hinge
Doesn’t agree with someone elses opinion
idle breach
some individual assets are not really
solid hinge
Calls it trolling
strong island
Lol
untold wraith
What is this stuff?
dense bone
no one here cares that you feel like you are being oppressed as a consumer
idle breach
no wtf bro
muted pier
see, you're just being mean
solid hinge
Niceon is EA
muted pier
why are you being mean BRO
dense bone
im being realistic
idle breach
except really few exceptions no other industry regulated like that
crisp nymph
It kinda sucks to here that they had Soviet stuff in the datafiles and a western front map
dense bone
go fight the videogame industry
idle breach
yeah
muted pier
video game industry has a uhhh little regulations
you saw it with battlefront
a literal slot machine game
strong island
It’s a game. That’s the problem with the industry. It’s not very regulated and stuff promised isn’t always what you get past launch
untold wraith
Why does it need to be regulated?
dense bone
and youre a consumer that has the choice not to partake
main grove
It was likely the people at DICE were getting a little ready to drop Western Europe 1944 stuff
muted pier
and there would've been no legal action
idle breach
i mean datamined thing makes me wonder why they decided to drop BFV
dense bone
dont act like the victim when you pay the price of admission
strong island
Besides launch, nothing is certain
main grove
But then higher ups spontaneously told them to stop
muted pier
well, imo, it needs to be regulated in some cases
crisp nymph
Well there’s a few reasons
muted pier
at least the monetization aspect
dense bone
the monetization aspect is how they make money
idle breach
no but they're gonna run the server
strong island
Yeah they datamined a good amount of information that would have made the game amazing
solid hinge
Maby a few data mined things will appear in the summer update
muted pier
you know, I don't find it ethical that some games thrive off of exploiting whales with addiction
main grove
If BFV was the tipping point for you to think games require regulation
dense bone
we are only spending 10 dollars more for games now than we did in 2000
main grove
Holy shit
crisp nymph
Massive disapproval from the fanbase
idle breach
and honestly they could make 2~4 chapter out of just datamined things
crisp nymph
Apparently lack of reasons
muted pier
that's just an example you know
solid hinge
I don't like the idea of data mined things but maby a few will show up
dense bone
no its not, they are making money back
crisp nymph
*resources
strong island
I hope Dice is just kidding and gives a whole bunch of new shit and says Happy Late April Fools
main grove
There are far more predatory games than BFV
fossil heron
I feel preyed on as a consumer
crisp nymph
And this virus
muted pier
can't really justify predatory business practices
dense bone
they arent predatory xD
muted pier
it's regulated in every other industry but this one
idle breach
its hardly predatory
dense bone
youre just an extremist
prime pine
Its not loot boxes at least
strong island
Like Russia, Italy, over 20 guns, at least 4 maps,
muted pier
because it's a young industry you know
idle breach
in what industry
main grove
It’s not young anymore
crisp nymph
This virus probably screwed up for anything past chapter 7
idle breach
so IN WHAT INDUSTRY IS REGULATED LIKE WHAT YOU SAYING
main grove
It’s starting to get dully fleshed out
untold wraith
Man WW2 infantry gear is uncomfortable
idle breach
film industry? you fuckig kidding?
muted pier
literally any other part of the entertainment industry has heavy regulations?
idle breach
you never saw how they advertising their product?
dense bone
this dude just talking bs xD
strong island
Why do u say uhhhh in front of everything im confused
prime pine
Bf5's monetisation is tame
crisp nymph
Eh
strong island
U didnt do that yesterday
muted pier
was
idle breach
fucking name single shitty film coming out saying "this film sucks"
muted pier
I'm uhh talking about general terms too
untold wraith
There are laws against micro transactions
idle breach
yes
crisp nymph
I didn’t like the pushing for cosmetics that were pretty expensive with company coins
muted pier
since when?
idle breach
YES
untold wraith
Ye
dense bone
....
untold wraith
Like for ever.
muted pier
i've heard some examples of some nordic countries regulating them
idle breach
like late 2000s in some asian nations
muted pier
forever huh
idle breach
more later on western nations
muted pier
forever they said
crisp nymph
Getting the notifications every time you entered the game “NEW 75k CC SKIN IS HERE”
muted pier
yeah man if that were the case battlefront 2 would've never released
dense bone
this dude is EU and he doesnt know about mtx laws?
strong island
Nah i think BF5 is making a lot of money from cosmetics, but the devoted BF player base doesnt like the cartoonish way it looks within a WW2 setting. UNlike BF1, which gave the consumer a real feeling of war
fossil heron
EA literally told you not to buy the game and you're mad that you bought it and didnt get what you wanted
untold wraith
Look, I’m not a lawyer. I’m a journalist.
coral shale
Its over
charred heron
@dense bone He is
coral shale
Owari da
idle breach
maybe the EU is not that EU
muted pier
what mtx laws lmao
dense bone
EU is like the biggest anti MTX region out there
crisp nymph
SwBf2 wasn’t pay to win and I’m tired of hearing that
strong island
MTX?
coral shale
I spent my $$ in an Uncomplete game
solid hinge
a bit late here but did Battlefield just effectively say they're giving up on the game
EU is heaven
dense bone
micro transaction
crisp nymph
@solid hinge Yeah
coral shale
GO10 ye
muted pier
you realize that uhhhh the consumer market in the eu isn't that different than the us
prime pine
Being honest to feel let down by this game is completely valid. We thought so much was gonna happen and outta nowhere the support stops
idle breach
@solid hinge yes we talking about that like nonstop 48 hours
muted pier
especially regulation wise
coral shale
I'll never ever EVER buy an EA game now
muted pier
battlefront 2 released here just the same
idle breach
wtf
coral shale
They also gave up on NFS HEAT
dense bone
cant wait for this guy to stop chatting like the other new complainers
untold wraith
Good luck
strong island
why did u before
charred heron
@prime pine To be fair, one would've seen that coming
crisp nymph
It’s not really EA’s fault tho
dense bone
just gotta wait a couple of days
prime pine
And throughout it everything just felt like treading rocks with bare feet
muted pier
and it didn't change it's monetization because of regulations
strong island
Unless its BF or BattleFront
muted pier
but because of fan outrage
idle breach
EU/US market is different really
untold wraith
I bet most of the people who say “Never again” will go out and instantly by BF6
idle breach
wtf are you from eurkansas?
fossil heron
Yeah EA threw in the towel and took BFV as a loss
muted pier
so, you know, the whole situation could've been avoided were there laws against it
strong island
EA is the one prolly pushing the wacky cosmetics and ttk change
dense bone
imagine complaining that companies try to make money xD
charred heron
Anyways, let's go back onto the topic of Battlefield here, and not oversway into too much political stuff
prime pine
For sure but its like... They should have stated this chapter was to be the last
coral shale
@dense bone Yea NFS HEAT came out last year and they already gave up on the updates dont tell me that ypu didnt know this!!
fossil heron
But with the way the community acted it seemed like that's what people wanted
idle breach
guys he's from NEU EURK
untold wraith
You said it with BF4, You said it in BF1, you said it now.
prime pine
But its obvious they dont have a clear direction
muted pier
imagine defending predatory business practices lmao you absolute libertarian
untold wraith
You will buy BF6
idle breach
im communist
muted pier
imagine defending false advertising
fossil heron
@untold wraith you buying BF6 at launch?
dense bone
... how does libertarian apply here?
untold wraith
Imagine using liberalism as a insult.
prime pine
I may not get the new battlefield
idle breach
i support collective ownership
prime pine
Personally
untold wraith
Yes. I’ll probably get it
fossil heron
@prime pineat all?
prime pine
Despite being never asked directly
coral shale
Buying BF6 at launch and it gets Cancelled Lmfao get lost
charred heron
@strong island No need to bypass our word filter
prime pine
I dunno
muted pier
how it applies? y'all defending an unregulated industry on the grounds that it's just companies trying to make money lmao
untold wraith
I am content with making further payments to dice
fossil heron
Get is post launch on sale bodie
prime pine
yeah
charred heron
@strong island The orange users, yes
muted pier
hey guys this game preys on vulnerable people and children but hey it's fine they're just trying to make money you know, don't like it don't buy it
strong island
I thought it was only yellow color or sum
charred heron
strong island
Oh ok
fossil heron
I think BFV is good because I dodged a lot of BS
dense bone
dont libertarians want less dependency of government and more freedoms?
strong island
How do u get to be a mod of a AAA game
coral shale
not better than BF1 tho
fossil heron
@dense bone yeah
prime pine
Ironically i want to pre order it because i can get that outta the way but eh
muted pier
hey guys this game has been falsely advertised since launch and failed to deliver on most of it's promises, but it's fine, you shouldn't have bought it in the first palce
yes that's exactly it
they want less regulations
as is the case here
nobody wants to make the studios and publisher accountable
untold wraith
What was the false advertising, you still haven’t answere.
coral shale
@muted pier yeah man I agree
muted pier
I uhhh, take a look at their website maybe?
untold wraith
You just said grand op isn’t grand
fossil heron
@prime pine BFV is still a lot of fun
muted pier
for bf v
dense bone
i dont see how you twist less dependency on government and more freedom into this topic but ok
coral shale
yep for BFV
prime pine
Ill still play it
muted pier
I uhhh from the top of my head
fossil heron
Samsies
muted pier
grand operations with every chapter
dense bone
you honestly seem spastic as fuck and throw out any topic/comment you can with "uhhh" in front of it
muted pier
deluxe edition cosmetics
prime pine
I just have a part that hopes dice wont fuck the next battlefield up
fossil heron
Wish I was in OC to get carried by ya
untold wraith
Using libertarian as an insult must mean you’re some edgy right winger who is most likely young
strong island
They technically didnt false advertise. They released all they said at launch. And they SAID that they would release more, but not specific on what. ANd during the games life, they said they would release more, but it just isn’t or King
prime pine
But i know they will fuck it up
fossil heron
I think they'll do it right just because they have no room for fuck ups
coral shale
@muted pier They also stopping Updates for NFS HEAT which came out last year
strong island
Working*
prime pine
May as well wait for first impressions and approach it skeptically
fossil heron
They'll play it safe which is pretty lame but it should play like a more polished BFV in a different setting
muted pier
they technically did false advertise, they were selling a service and failed to deliver upon it
prime pine
Heres an indication creamy
muted pier
this isn't just a single purchase product economy anymore
dense bone
can it be tomorrow already so only at mick can get tired and take a nap and forget to post here again
idle breach
what if BFV stopping support is not even about BF, it's just EA currently losing massive money?
coral shale
Man EA was at the best in 2010
fossil heron
Yep
charred heron
@muted pier I kindly ask you to stop getting too political here. We get it, you're disappointed with the game, but your idea is something that wouldn't hold hand and foot in any court on this planet. Also, please stop breaking up your sentences into small parts. Just make a longer post, way easier to read.
prime pine
Then its something to consider
untold wraith
Service had been delivered. You got chapters did you not?
fossil heron
That was a bad sign lol
muted pier
yes that is fair
fossil heron
I can accept DICEs games having a rough start if they fix it eventually
dense bone
lol if i said that i would be called mean
fossil heron
BF4 became a masterpiece in time.
dense bone
mod says it "yes that is fair"
prime pine
A game at launch shouldnt be a fuck up
coral shale
BF1 is a masterpiece though
prime pine
But
muted pier
I apologise, this discussion has gone out of way and become unrelated to battlefield as its own thing
fossil heron
It shouldn't
prime pine
Eh
fossil heron
Im not excusing that. Im just saying as a fan of the series I can accept that with the faith that eventually it will be running smooth. That didn't happen with V. That faith is gone and the next BF needs to be great at launch
charred heron
BFV had a rough start with it's pretty weird PR. Some things got fixed, but mostly blaring techincal issues and content that got stale pretty quick made other live services way more tempting to play.
dense bone
bf6 will still sell millions and make 2x its cost to development in the first week/month
muted pier
I mean, regarding BF V, a lack of direction was probably what caused it to fail again and again
prime pine
But they may never regain the trust
muted pier
and of course, terrible leadership and management
coral shale
yep
muted pier
I can't see how they made back much money from the live service alone
dense bone
@prime pine dont take this discords 200 users raging as a sign of the millions of people that bought its overall thoughts
muted pier
so I sincerely doubt bf6 could have something alike tides of war
fossil heron
Eh. A gaming communities trust is easily gained back imo
charred heron
BFV's development and post-lauch development was riddled with issues, so i think it's better they end the content development rather sooner than later
prime pine
I take it as an overall view
muted pier
unless, DICE gets a severe structural change regarding it's leadership and relationship to its publisher
charred heron
It's not like they'll gain development ressources just to create content for BFV while there are many other projects going on in the meantime in the studio
dense bone
you think the 8m sales in this game was mostly from hardcores that play 1k+ hours and get on discord to chat about games?
not even close
muted pier
I mean, the game could've still been recovered in some way
I suppose, other games managed to do it
crisp nymph
Yes
hidden crest
Maybe actually they made their live service bad on purpose so we beg for premium and paid DLC to be in the next game?
charred heron
@dense bone Yeah, it's mostly the core that complains, the average Joe will buy it anyways
So eh
dense bone
^
coral shale
DICE should refresh everything with BF6, new staffs, more experienced developments, features that other games dont have or whatsoever
muted pier
I guess that it's been doomed though, so many hours and resources were wasted for pointless projects
fossil heron
I mean these last 2 updates can fix a lot of issues
crisp nymph
The pacific was a good turnaround point
dense bone
and the average joe makes up a vast majority of sales
crisp nymph
If they stuck with it
charred heron
But then again, i came to appreciate BF1 more for what it is and how polished the game and it's DLC content is, despite a few issues like weapon and vehicle balance
dense bone
last i did an estimate of how many people were on pc, it was less than 10k
coral shale
They also planned Russian faction...I was so excited with that alone and it now fell down to oblivion
steel agate
Yeah, BFVI will have to hit it out of the park to prevent the franchise from stagnating even further. The next title does have more development time and supposedly has more resources shifted to it from BFV, so BFVI has a bit more promise.
untold wraith
Did they?
muted pier
it was kind of funny how braddock mentioned waiting on approvals for a chapter 7 broadcast but announced the game's end two days later
crisp nymph
I severely doubt only 10k have it on pc
dense bone
...
charred heron
I just hope that BF6 won't glide into this Live Service rail again, since it only does more harm for the content rather than improving it
muted pier
it's just a shame that a setting as rich and popular as ww2 was botched by one of the vanguard fps studios
fossil heron
Guess he didnt get approval
untold wraith
Premium sucks. Never again.
dense bone
@crisp nymph "last i did an estimate of how many people were on pc, it was less than 10k"
WERE ON PC, on at the time
hidden crest
Tbh I'm kind of tired of WW2 FPS games
muted pier
I mean, I like live service games, it's just that DICE doesn't know how to do them properly
dense bone
not WHO BOUGHT
crisp nymph
Oh ok
untold wraith
I won’t pay for DLC
charred heron
Yes, we got a lot of guns and skins and whatnot from ToW, but the actual content like Maps etc., the stuff that the game should focus the most on, was severely underwhelming
muted pier
neither battlefront nor battlefield capitalized on their monetization model properly
fossil heron
Severely
untold wraith
In this day and age, one should never have to pay for DLC
muted pier
seriously though, weapons are the least appealing content additions to me
crisp nymph
Here’s what I want
coral shale
At least...Like AT LEAST 3 maps before you shut down the game for good dice.... 😦 Even if its this year
crisp nymph
No live service
charred heron
I don't mind to pay for DLC if it's actually worth my money
fossil heron
People like to say that the new maps never get played but when they're released people play the shit out of them
hidden crest
There's like, so many of them that for me the WW2 setting now is overused in the FPS genre
crisp nymph
Just 10-15 maps at launch and a few dlcs afterwards
muted pier
like I can take it or leave it, I'd actually prefer faction locked weapons, if it meant we'd get more maps, factions and cosmetics
dense bone
@untold wraith that just means base price of games will increase
we are already getting games at a steal
charred heron
Like new models, sounds, factions, maps, animations etc in a cozy 10-15€ package
untold wraith
Premium splits up the playerbase. It’s stupid.
dense bone
50 bucks for games in 2000
untold wraith
I still have the base maps for BF4
dense bone
60 bucks for games 20 years, 50 bucks including inflation is something like 75 buck
charred heron
If you consider that, than a game is never 60 bucks, since in this day and age Premium or a Season Pass are needed for the full experience, so the game price will easily exceed the 100€ mark
muted pier
I wouldn't say ww2 is overused, it's a classic genre, it can be done to that without feeling stale imo, especially considering the fact that tons of battles and theatres have yet gone unexplored in games
dense bone
not even to mention that obvious cost increase to just develop a game
untold wraith
I payed the extra money for the premium in BF1
muted pier
like, most games only delve into the western, eastern and pacific fronts
digital seal
BFV was the first BF live service title.. everything before this was DLC based and that's why we know DLC works but in the end, live service should end up giving EA/DICE more profit which, in theory, would allow for more development as they could reinvest the profit into making the game better
dense bone
@charred heron thats why im saying DLC or any post purchase content is basically necessary
untold wraith
It’s just a bad model. Sure it makes money but it divides us.
charred heron
Then again, every DLC for BF1 came with it's own soundtrack, exclusively made for the DLC they were included in
muted pier
no yugoslavia, no sino-japanese wars, everything needs to be popular and well known
hidden crest
Nah, for me it's overused, WW2 has always been done to death in FPS games imo
untold wraith
I would support premium but if everyone has access to new maps for free.
digital seal
Well that's the thing, premium does divide the playerbase
digital seal
you pay for the maps and other DLC items
charred heron
Premium or any DLC content divides the playerbase
muted pier
it's just that DICE doesn't know how to do it properly
main grove
Were LMGs even any good in BF3/BF4
fossil heron
Id be down for a battle pass for BF
charred heron
On the other hand, you got the Season Pass + most DLCs and BF1 roughly a year or 1.5 years later with the Revolution Edition, which itself is a steal
muted pier
the biggest advantage premium models have against live service is that content development is more focused and has a clear direction
digital seal
Premium is the DLC form that we've seen in the past with BF3, BF4, BFH, and BF1
hidden crest
That's why I like BF1 so much, WW2 has been done to death in FPS games and BF1 was a refresh showing us another setting that isn't so used in FPS games, which is WW1
main grove
TOW was essentially just a watered down battle pass
fossil heron
Or honestly no base cost just subscription
muted pier
TOW could've been so much more
charred heron
@dapper bronze Premium in the old titles gave you access to DLCs 2 weeks before normal release, exclusive dogtags and maybe an exclusive symbol or two
digital seal
Pleaseee no subscription to play 😄
dapper bronze
What's the point of that lol
fossil heron
Why not?
muted pier
as a concept it was awesome, we'd move to a new front / theatre every few months, as the war progressed
charred heron
But the core selling point are the maps, because 5 maps DLCs a $15 are more expensive that just buying Premium
dense bone
for free?
charred heron
@digital seal Battlefield Play4Free 2
fossil heron
The point of that is consistent content drops. People wont resub without new content
charred heron
muted pier
live service can have consistent content drops
untold wraith
Premium doesn’t instantly give you content.
muted pier
if it recieves enough funding and has a clear plan from the beginning
digital seal
Ah yes, the ugly duckling 
@charred heron
hidden crest
Like I can name only like 4 WW1 FPS games I know, while if I try to name WW2 FPS games I know I end up with like 10+ games
untold wraith
You’d be more pissed off with BFV if you had premium.
fossil heron
Premium definitely funds the development of new content
muted pier
changing directions five times won't get you a consistent live service model
untold wraith
Because there would be the same result just you have less money
fossil heron
If premium was in BFV we would get whats promised or they'd have to refund us
muted pier
yeah but how many of those ww2 fps games are good and decently populated?
untold wraith
Money doesn’t = content.
charred heron
Live services can have consistens content drops, even without the need to do challenges. But the core content, maps and modes, were pretty....negligible
muted pier
I can name a bunch off the top of my head, battalion 1944, post sciptum, hell let loose - all having small playerbases and a less casual gameplay flow
charred heron
Seeing how quick the Pacific theater became stale...
digital seal
The Pacific was 2 maps....
charred heron
@muted pier But you have to consider that those games, like Squad or Red Orchestra 2, are more aimed towards a tactical and realistic gameplay, and not a casual gameplay like BFV
hidden crest
Yeah but still, WW2 setting has been done to death at this point in the FPS genre, I just want the FPS game industry to give us some new experiences
muted pier
the pacific was 4 maps actually
fossil heron
You understand those games take a lot less work than a BF title
feral grotto
if we had premium on bfv people would complain about it..
desert dune
2 to eventually 4 maps
charred heron
Chapter 4 didn't even get new maps
digital seal
Okay, yeah my bad
muted pier
@charred heron yes I know that, I'm just saying that for casual ww2 fans, there isn't really any marketable mainline game currently
feral grotto
really hope gunplay on the next game would be as good as bfv...
personally bfv is my fav bf game
muted pier
bf v was supposed to take over that market, but failed at it
digital seal
How could I forget precious Wake Island? 
feral grotto
most played bf game as well
charred heron
CoD World at War still holds up pretty well and has a great story
desert dune
^
muted pier
didn't chapter 4 get lofoten and provence?
marble dove
well I'm out, game is dead
charred heron
And the Last Tiger in BFV was actually a pretty good war story, despite some issues
hidden crest
Chapter 4 didn't even get new maps
@charred heron Marita
muted pier
yeah but WaW is old and dead
novel blaze
battlefielf v is good boh
digital seal
It's the only good war story
novel blaze
wss
charred heron
@hidden crest Yeah, sorry. Call back, it was Chapter 2
novel blaze
i wanted a kamikaze pilot cut scene
fossil heron
I would of preferred a couple more maps rather than the war stories
feral grotto
war stories were great
digital seal
^
feral grotto
i actually wanted more of them
charred heron
People undersestimate a good singeplayer
muted pier
I honestly prefer war stories
crisp nymph
At least the war stories gave me stuff to do offline
novel blaze
i played them in hardcore for the trophy and i enjoyed it
hidden crest
But still, on chapter 4 we had to wait a lot till Al "Soon" Dan was released 
fossil heron
War stories were nothing to write home about
charred heron
A good singeplayer teaches you the mechanics of the game, can fully invest you into the setting the game sets and can tell good stories that will make those games remarkable
muted pier
they were fun campaigns, nothing to exciting but a nice introduction to the game and setting
crisp nymph
As someone else said
charred heron
The russian campaign in WaW had so many good moments that didn't get glossed over, but are rather shown as is
balmy willow
Bf3 remastered?
feral grotto
god no..
feral grotto
remaster version are fun for 2 sec..
crisp nymph
With multiplayer
charred heron
Which is why i like The Last Tiger so much, since they didn't gloss over the fact that people were executed and hanged near the end of the war
balmy willow
I just wanna see how good the graphics can get
fossil heron
WaWs campaign was amazing. BF doesnt need a campaign
feral grotto
i rather get a new modern shooter game than a remaster of bf3
crisp nymph
Bruh no I’m tired of modern shooters
feral grotto
because bf3 wasn't as good as people remember it..
muted pier
yes, the last tiger showed an emotionally gripping story while respecting the history of the events and portraying their ugly parts as well as the action
charred heron
Battlefield has a position where it can have a good campaign, since propery story missions would be like a properly scripted Conquest or Operations match
crisp nymph
Decent campaign
feral grotto
bf4 was better than that
crisp nymph
BF4 was bad lmao
muted pier
never thought DICE had the balls to do a german campaign
feral grotto
decent campaign?.. nah it wasn't half decent even
balmy willow
Bf4 was basically the same thing
fossil heron
@crisp nymph your opinion is the minority
charred heron
The intro mission of BF1 was way better than the intro of BFV, since BF1's intro sold me way more into the scenario
muted pier
I enjoyed it
crisp nymph
@fossil heron doesn’t stop it from being an opinion
fossil heron
BF1 had a great intro
crisp nymph
Yeah BF1 was good
muted pier
BF1 had a great intro, but I prefer BFV's war stories
fossil heron
Still didnt get me to play the campaign tho
feral grotto
bf1 single player was good yeah..
muted pier
especially the last tiger
balmy willow
What’s gonna be the next bf game
charred heron
Nothing is Written and The Runner were eh campaigns imo, but the beginning of Through Mud and Blood was great
balmy willow
Modern or futuristic
crisp nymph
I think Cold War
balmy willow
Bruh
crisp nymph
Or alt history
muted pier
I never really liked through mud and blood, felt like a power trip for the most part
I liked the on foot missions though
charred heron
Tanks were a powertrip
fossil heron
Next BF will he F2P with no campaign
balmy willow
Fr?
muted pier
yeah I highly doubt that
balmy willow
lol
crisp nymph
No campaign? Maybe
fossil heron
I'll put money on it
crisp nymph
F2P? Doubt
balmy willow
Probably no campaign
muted pier
no way they're going f2p, not with this franchise
charred heron
@fossil heron They already tried that with Battlefield Play4Free, which was shut down in 2015 and isn't playable anymore
feral grotto
no campaign in a game is a mistake..
balmy willow
They wouldn’t make another f2p
crisp nymph
Battlefield should try to add a 2 person mode
muted pier
battlefield play4free was enough of an experiment, the market wouldn't be fit for another try
solid hinge
no campaign is better than wasting time and resources on BILLY BRIDGER
balmy willow
Co op?
charred heron
Then there was Battlefield Online for the South Korean market, which was shut down rather quickly and isn't playable anymore due to non-existent servers
crisp nymph
Yeah
zenith gyro
why yall toxic about the upcoming update, I enjoy the game very well
balmy willow
Coop would be interesting in a bf game
fossil heron
So you dont think they'll try again? Look at the success of apex. It's possible
balmy willow
Don’t know if it would fit
dense bone
@zenith gyro its just new people mostly
feral grotto
there's a co op.. just no storyline missions
charred heron
@solid hinge Safecracker Speshul
balmy willow
Oh
zenith gyro
@dense bone thanks for your opinion!
balmy willow
I meant coop campaign
zenith gyro
u new?
balmy willow
Who
charred heron
@fossil heron This is, they tried to tap into the F2P market 3 times, with Battlefield Play4Free, Battlefield Heroes and Battlefield Online, and all of those games were failures and were completely shut down
balmy willow
Who said that
muted pier
apex is also a completely different game, battlefield is a classic sandbox shooter
balmy willow
What
fossil heron
Idk man. There's always a chance.
muted pier
pretty sure battlefield online was developed by a third party studio though
like, it looked nothing like the mainline series
zenith gyro
i enjoy the multiplayer pretty much
balmy willow
When did he say that battlefield is a single player game
zenith gyro
every game is different
fossil heron
I'd still put a sawbuck on it
charred heron
Nah, the F2P market is pretty oversaturated as is, same goes for the Live Service market
zenith gyro
''was battlefield online even developed by DICE''
muted pier
classic sandbox shooters are loosing popularity
balmy willow
Yeah?
novel blaze
i dont remember bf3s coop thst much but i do remember killing myself so i could get to pilot the attack helicopter in one of the coop missions
crisp nymph
Yeah F2P will be the new thing but the next battlefield won’t do that
muted pier
uhh battlefield online was developed by neowiz games, not DICE
fossil heron
F2P is already the new thing
dense bone
f2p has been a thing xD
zenith gyro
I mean.. it technically is both single and multiplayer....
muted pier
I'm talking about the game, Battlefield Online
zenith gyro
Oh okay my bad then, sorry
muted pier
not battlefield multiplayer
balmy willow
lol
gloomy kraken
Well that was a waste of my time, did this weeks nodes to get the Tier skip 100 Boins and i didnt get them.
muted pier
don't worry
minor gale
prime pine
Big surprise right marse
zenith gyro
Yeah same
muted pier
yeah neowiz games, they probably let them develop a chinese domestic shooter on their engine
crisp nymph
Maybe up to 4 new guns
gloomy kraken
Panzershrek
zenith gyro
But I want as they said that this will be the last big update with vehicle and stuff to add 2 more factions like from Europe
muted pier
they said the summer update will have a new map, I doubt they'll add more than that
also some weapons, then that's it
gray saffron
Stay out of my swaamp! "shrek wrecks panzer"
novel blaze
i expect 5 factions along with 25 maps 22 vehicles and 100 new guns
zenith gyro
Let's hope they will because I want to have good fun even after 2020
btw what happened with the fall of Europe I think it was called
crisp nymph
@novel blaze if only lmao
balmy willow
If the next battlefield was futuristic would u guys have high hopes for the game
crisp nymph
No
fossil heron
No
crisp nymph
Well depends how far
balmy willow
lol
crisp nymph
2030s-2040s? Maybe
zenith gyro
I want a game like Battlefield 4
fossil heron
Doesnt matter the setting to me
novel blaze
i hate futuristic warfare bo2, was an exception
gray saffron
How many factions did bf4 have?
gloomy kraken
3
novel blaze
3
balmy willow
Bruh 2030 and 2040 isn’t gonna be futuristic
fossil heron
I dont want it historical because people complain about realism
zenith gyro
Battlefield 3295 😎
novel blaze
accuracy not realism
crisp nymph
Why were there maps of Russians and Chinese attacking each other
zenith gyro
star ships
gray saffron
Yeah. Fictional would be grear
fossil heron
Both
novel blaze
imagine playing Bf for realism
balmy willow
Medieval fantasy battlefield 
crisp nymph
I mean it’s more realistic than most popular shooters
fossil heron
There's more than some and its hysterical
zenith gyro
lol
gray saffron
I want maps based on real cities :3 but that's the only realism i really care about.
prime pine
They can go fictional with 2143 or some shit
zenith gyro
No. I want something like Battlefield 4
novel blaze
they are the ones who complain about it in the subreddit and get downvoted even by the tech joke shitters
fossil heron
They could've gone fictional with ww2
balmy willow
I’d rather they go fictional so ppl would stop complaining about realism and accuracy
gray saffron
Really enjoy rotterdam, iwo jima etc due they're comparable to the real thing. See what they changed for gameplay reasons etc
balmy willow
Ww1 steampunk battlefield?
dense bone
@zenith gyro you know you can play bf4 still?
prime pine
Just want something where they can go crazy with maps
fossil heron
Same
balmy willow
Yeah
gloomy kraken
Imagine the ”Secret weapons of WW2” DLC in today. Like how many negative reviewes would that get?
novel blaze
modern
fossil heron
Some electric boogaloo
balmy willow
That’d mean fictional
prime pine
Bfh had some really creative maps
zenith gyro
@dense bone of course. still i want something like battlefield 4 - it's legendary if you understand me
balmy willow
Battlefield 6: electric boogaloo
prime pine
Bank job, block, etc
crisp nymph
Modern just would feel the same really
balmy willow
There are too much modern shooters rn
zenith gyro
i hate modern
gray saffron
Bfh was great. That map where one moment you're in a skyscraper, shooting a heli, jump down and find them on the floor
balmy willow
I like it
gray saffron
Fight*
novel blaze
yeah and those shooters are no where close to battlefield
zenith gyro
every game is unique
prime pine
The centre tower was such a power piece
gray saffron
That's the ome
prime pine
Would love a siege of shanghai sorta thing
balmy willow
Why
prime pine
Was a cool map
balmy willow
I see
crisp nymph
It’s honestly one of the only maps I like from BF4
prime pine
A very cool map and played really well
crisp nymph
should they bring back elites?
balmy willow
No
gloomy kraken
NO
zenith gyro
ok so what do you expect to be the time in the next battlefield
gray saffron
Factionlocked, maybe
balmy willow
Kind of a dumb idea tbh
prime pine
Bf1 elites? No
crisp nymph
I think it was a good idea
gloomy kraken
Wait... bf1 elites or...?
balmy willow
Oh
prime pine
Yeah fuck those.
gloomy kraken
If BF1 then: NO
prime pine
They're legitimately unbalanced
gloomy kraken
Battle pick ups are way better as they dont give the wielder godly armor
balmy willow
Why would they make something unbalanced
gray saffron
The battle pickups in bfv are better than those bullet sponge knight armor bullcrabs
prime pine
Infantry shouldnt have more health than the usual 100
balmy willow
Epic machine gun knight of doom
prime pine
Creates bullshit inconsistencies
crisp nymph
I think it should vary between class
fossil heron
Elites always pissed me off when i was going hard then it felt like running into a brick wall
shy badger
Boo
solid hinge
I hate this game
zenith gyro
i love this game
solid hinge
Idk why i play it
gray saffron
Hows the shitter?
shy badger
!rej
solid hinge
that's why the first swbf sucked
shy badger
Excellent
solid hinge
bacta grenades giving people extra health was so dumb
shy badger
Can send pics later if you want
gray saffron
No
solid hinge
fucked with a shitload of the weapons
prime pine
Noot noot!
shy badger
Noot noot :D
balmy willow
Bruh !
gray saffron
Why isn't blackout regular yet? :(
prime pine
Yeah whats up with that
shy badger
:C
solid hinge
I'm praying for titanfall news soon
gray saffron
I am, way :D how are you? :D
solid hinge
So the same as the last 3 years
solid hinge
gray saffron
Who made titanfall? Wasn't that respawn?
shy badger
Yup
prime pine
I gotta cut down on the money im spending haha. Gotta save it.
One more payment and im not gonna touch it
prime pine
Oh im not spending on boins
fossil heron
It would be more fun if they kept frontlines and rush around 👀
prime pine
I got the booster pack. The very last thing im paying for for a very very long time.
fossil heron
I have 4000 boins still lol
gray saffron
I have a config ready for rush plus frontlines if you want it after ze week :3
gray saffron
Booster pack?
prime pine
Yeah the booster pack. The one with the overlord set
prime pine
I wanted the corsair skin
shy badger
I'll trade my boins for CC
gray saffron
But its not discounted is it?
shy badger
Any buyers?
fossil heron
The snake skin is nice too
shy badger
I'll trade my boins for some toilet paper rn
dapper bronze
What's the best lmg?
fossil heron
Gilded?
dapper bronze
Lewis gun or mg42
fossil heron
Lewis
solid hinge
lewis is a solid allrounder with a bigmag
fossil heron
Mgs are niche
shy badger
Mg4w is an mmg
fossil heron
True
prime pine
Lewith
fossil heron
Lewith
fossil heron
Lewith has ridiculous range
prime pine
Bren, fg42, lewis, type 11 and bar are the best
shy badger
Type 11 is so niche
prime pine
You cant fuck a gun regardless 
wooden temple
what about the barrel
gray saffron
otherwise you can just make a hole to use with the gun
gray saffron
hi, you new here? 😄
dense bone
i wish mods would just mute people who come in like that off the bat
prime pine
They're just an inactive rand
warm pasture
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
dense bone
you can tell their intentions in 2 seconds
gray saffron
he's prolly already- oh he's still h ere
warm pasture
its funny how dice laughed at Infinity ward when they launched infinite warfare
look how the tables have turned
dense bone
and when did dice laugh at them?
torpid forge
feelsbadman are they really unplugging bfv
dense bone
no
dense bone
are there any new maps after june? no
warm pasture
yeah now they do
I don't expect them to shit on MW after they killed it
MW is by far the best cod
idc what anyone says
Battlefield 3 is the best battlefield
solution is: always go for modern time
gray saffron
we noticed you don't care, don't worry
prime pine
Who the fuck are you
warm pasture
''if you don't like it then don't buy it'' hahahahhahahahahahhahaha
dense bone
@warm pasture i really have to question your mentality if you get enjoyment out of any of this
- youre just a consumer
warm pasture
I do enjoy seeing them fail after how cocky they were in the beginning
dense bone
why?
fossil heron
MW sucks idc what anyone says
warm pasture
cuz it pissed me off
dense bone
why?
balmy willow
I think MWR is pretty good
dense bone
unless youre in investor or work for an "opposing team" you have no reason
fossil heron
He doesn't know lol
warm pasture
hahahahahahhaha
balmy willow
They went for an arcade and realistic style
solid hinge
This game is bad and its support got cancelled and people still defend this game
dense bone
if you just randomly decided to pick a team and be immature about it just admit to it and get this over with
balmy willow
BfV was pretty controversial
solid hinge
Its good if you've never played any game before
dense bone
@placid sequoia no new content after june, game will still get patches minor updates after that
balmy willow
Doesn’t mean it’s bad
dense bone
^
fossil heron
I've played everyone since bc2
solid hinge
Its donkey shit
gray saffron
kinky, creamy
torpid forge
is this a bf chator cod chat
dense bone
bf chat...
fossil heron
Its probably the worse performing game but rhe gameplay is amazing
dense bone
i would hate if my perspective on quality was so easily swayed by the end of content support
because those two things have to bearing on eachother
midnight nimbus
game doesn't get updates after june lol
fossil heron
I can feel your tears through your hahas
warm pasture
gotta give them credit tho, they lasted just over a year with this mess
placid sequoia
Its good if you've never played any game before
@solid hinge
Thats what i think about it.
Just like the people who played FO4 thinking it's great but FO 3 and las vegas remember better.
Much like how a North Korean thinks his life is great
warm pasture
impressive
gray saffron
i'm absolutely disappointed in dice and the future of the game. doesn't make me think less of the enjoyment to be had from what's there now
warm pasture
they are unpassionate
dense bone
@warm pasture almost 2 years
warm pasture
oh damn
balmy willow
Very haha that red cucumber makes is taking a year of his life
warm pasture
even more impressive
wooden temple
the bf franchise just had that magic that other ww2 shooters did not have
imagine what the battle of berlin wouldve looked like, and stalingrad
dense bone
Twitter
wooden temple
even dday
dense bone
@wooden temple old topic
fossil heron
Im still enjoying the game but the management was a complete and utter mwss
solid hinge
does this mean they'll fix bugs
midnight nimbus
>ensuring healthy game performance
dense bone
you want bfv to be 1942 remaster and every other ww2 ever
solid hinge
healthy game performance baby
fossil heron
Ye
prime pine
How is the game dead if people are still playing it
dense bone
@solid hinge per wording yes
balmy willow
I think they would have added the eastern front but the game was already so bad
midnight nimbus
game's barely been out for 18 months
balmy willow
Compared to other bf games
midnight nimbus
tfw CoD WW2 got longer lasting support
solid hinge
their wording is sharp enough to pick my teeth with
dense bone
@midnight nimbus im reading that as "no content like maps/weapons but we will put out patches and small updates"
fossil heron
@solid hinge probably cosmetics and maaaaaybee a few guns
forest solar
Idk why but recently, I just didn’t really feel like playing BFV
solid hinge
@fossil heron horrific
fossil heron
Indeed
wooden temple
same
torpid forge
man i was hopping for eastern front / dday and maybe more of north africa europe theator
fossil heron
I want the Jorts
fossil heron
Gimme jorts to go with my wife beater
dense bone
finally something original
warm pasture
they are beyooond useless
forest solar
They had so much potential, yet they fucked up and still continue
I hope they lose money for this
dense bone
i thought they werent continueing?
fossil heron
Noobies crying into the void again lol
forest solar
I’m talking about in general
dense bone
@forest solar you think they didnt make money off the first month?
solid hinge
AHH TGE VANGAURD IS HARD TO GET
dense bone
100m to make bfv (really high estimate), likely made 300m in first month...
so yea thats 200m in their pockets
balmy willow
The game was doomed since the trailer
solid hinge
I CANT GET TGE SUPPRESSION ASSIST
forest solar
That’s not what I meant, I meant like I hope there company goes out of business. I mean there are people who are leaving and calling it quits
dense bone
wow youre petty AF
wooden temple
I dont want them out of business
fossil heron
Yeah thats childish lol
balmy willow
Hoping a company goes out of business cause u didn’t get what u wanted?
dense bone
"they stopped support after 1.5 years, i want them to stop existing"
grow the fuck up
digital seal
Let's not hope anybody goes out of business... Plus FIFA is the cash cow for EA
forest solar
Their micro transactions is so bullshit
balmy willow
That’s a bruh moment
wooden temple
even with the small chance that they get back to work on bfv, i want that chance
placid sequoia
man i was hopping for eastern front / dday and maybe more of north africa europe theator
@torpid forge
Sry
Women in combat first
I wonder who really pushed hard for this other than alan kurtz
dense bone
@forest solar bfv mtx is IDEAL wtf are you talking about?
forest solar
What’s mtx
dense bone
micro transactions
wooden temple
actually they did fix mtx so its only for cosmetics
dense bone
they gave maps and guns for free, mtx in bfv was only cosmetics
that is the ideal system
dense bone
@balmy willow self entitled much?
balmy willow
What?
forest solar
Mhmm debatable, their cosmetics aren’t really war related. Only some of the maps were good
low hamlet
is it actually true that DICE isnt gonna update BF5 in June 2020 ?
dense bone
so what? they are optional
wooden temple
yup
dense bone
thats not "debatable"
low hamlet
damn
fossil heron
To be fair there aren't any microtransactions in BFV
gray saffron
ToW was pretty great compared to other shit. hardly felt i really need to grind unlike shit in pubg. who the fuck uses 10 medkits in a round or drives around 50 km in a car..IN A WEEKLY
fossil heron
Nothing Micro about them
low hamlet
is Battlefield 5 still shit after 2 years ?
dense bone
1.5 years
fossil heron
15 bucks for an elite
dense bone
and its meh
torpid forge
@placid sequoia historically women where in combat but not in regular armies more like resistance fighters and still do
forest solar
Niceon, I’m honestly trying to tell you guys how I feel about the game and share my opinion....idk why you’re kind of being rude to me in your responses
wooden temple
I shouldve realized where it was going when the ToW turned into +1 tiers
low hamlet
if you dont like woman in BF5 "Dont buy it"
dense bone
@forest solar this is the first time youve treated your words as opinions
balmy willow
If they weren’t going for realism
gray saffron
it's fine. but only early war battles and pacific
dense bone
and even if you think cosmetics are bs im just gonna tell you its not since they are optional
balmy willow
Then woman with weird arm thing would be ok
forest solar
Good shit niceon
dense bone
if you care about them sure, but they really are a non issue
low hamlet
I just hope the next battlefield game will be just as good as BF4
its my favorite BF game
balmy willow
It probably won’t be
fossil heron
I hope the next BF game has ninjas
torpid forge
@low hamlet for me no problem i play with women a my soldiers in all 4 factions
balmy willow
And samurais
dense bone
i hope bfv release robot arm lady
forest solar
Next gen game would be at 2022
low hamlet
@fossil heron you already have that in wake island LUL
fossil heron
Ninjas vs samurai future warfare
balmy willow
Yes
solid hinge
Robot ninjas
balmy willow
Laser katanas
fossil heron
Robot ninjas
charred heron
Please, let's be realistic
forest solar
True
balmy willow
Laser ninja stars
torpid forge
veitnam or modern