there was almost no reason at all to pick bolts before 6.2
#battlefield-legacy-titles
dense bone
solid hinge
I dont know if youve looked at the chapter lately
dense bone
i cant tell if ober is god tier troll, or if i should really feel bad for them
shy badger
There were always slow chapters
brave coral
@solid hinge idk if you’ve looked at like. the pandemic that we are currently experiencing?
solid hinge
Those are my pronouns
shy badger
Especially with everything going rn
solid hinge
There were never chapters like this
dense bone
because they had paid for dlc before?
brave coral
oh my fucking god
winter raven
How much content would you expect from a chapter?
dense bone
what are you trying to be right about?
brave coral
are you actually complaining about a slow content flow in the middle of a fucking pandemic
wake the fuck up
dense bone
(and 2 years after launch for a free service)
solid hinge
🤔
shy badger
I dunno chapter 4 was pretty slow
solid hinge
When did this chapter come out again
and idk if I can break this to you but
the chapter content is made way before
dense bone
content being slow when im not paying for it is fine imo
floral nimbus
solid hinge
The point is if you look at the pace were getting new content youd be dumb to not see its not what it used to be
brave coral
because we’re in the middle of a fucking pandemic
shy badger
We used to pay $50 right
brave coral
which part of that do you not understand
dense bone
youre irrelevant
brave coral
@dense bone honestly has to be a troll
at this point i literally can’t imagine someone seriously saying that
brave coral
Pandemic is irrelevant
@solid hinge
my guy literally what the fuck
solid hinge
Sigh
brave coral
plus you’re just objectively wrong on multiple counts lmao
solid hinge
The current events are irrelevant because we are talking about content that was completed way before the pandemic even hit
floral nimbus
Uxbehievg5hshtt
winter raven
Well his point was that all the content is pre-made either way and should be done by now; but really I'm not sure what kind of content he expects
brave coral
the pandemic means they can’t easily update the game
solid hinge
So you think they make content every week for the tow?
Like every week they have to complete the content
brave coral
oh yeah that’s really the same thing isn’t it
solid hinge
and everything released is straight off the press?
dense bone
youd think someone that has below top 50% would realize they dont know what they are doing in the first place, shouldnt try to talk about it
brave coral
holy fuck i cannot argue with this shapiro logic
dense bone
solid hinge
and?
dense bone
youre not even decent at the game in the first place
solid hinge
and it doesnt take a genius to see that bolts ruin the game now
floral nimbus
brave coral
it’s fairly easily verifiable i don’t know where you were trying to take that
dense bone
considering most of my stats are top 3%....
brave coral
they just... don’t
floral nimbus
brave coral
honestly they’re still weaker than they should be
brave coral
they should have straight pull
floral nimbus
brave coral
so you don’t have to unscope between shots
solid hinge
At least I have the game experience to back my shit up
solid hinge
I dont log on for 20 minutes a week to camp and get my kdr up
dense bone
"i get sniped all the time because im bad at the game, this is the state of the game"
i die to bolts MAYBE 3 times in a match
and i mean MAAAAAYBE
floral nimbus
brave coral
bolts are really... not that good
dense bone
never have i felt that any bolt user on the other team was worth my attention
floral nimbus
solid hinge
Mate dont tell me ur most played gamemode is conquest
dense bone
they are largely "ignore because they arent hitting me"
brave coral
it’s not like an easy kill you have to be either good at sniping or have people who are just stood still
solid hinge
Youre legit going all pompous with your stats but all your stats are from the least organized gamemode where people play like potatoes
dense bone
ill play any game mode
winter raven
So how do I mute all of this it's getting repetitive
solid hinge
Either way this shouldnt have gotten personal
dense bone
hell ill use pistols only and do better
solid hinge
Nyphon always does this
No actual arguments so just straight to character attacks
“Ur shit lmao get off noob”
Everytime
solid hinge
I said like 3 times at the start what my take is
dense bone
10% of what i have said to you have been "personal attacks"
solid hinge
No response
swift wharf
Y’all still arguing smh
floral nimbus
solid hinge
Not a single argument on why bolts arent op and why the buff was needed
Not a single one
brave coral
literally they aren’t?
shy badger
That's the #battlefield-legacy-titles channel for ya
dense bone
its not even personal, i havent called you an idiot or anything, just showed your stats and based off those stats stated the fact that you are sub par
floral nimbus
solid hinge
“They arent” isnt an argument
brave coral
that’s just. objective
brave coral
if someone can do well with a bolt action they will almost certainly do a lot better with any other weapon
solid hinge
winter raven
Bitte end my suffering @swift wharf
dense bone
like you deemed bolts op randomly?
solid hinge
No?
floral nimbus
solid hinge
I said why they were that
dense bone
a sentiment ive literally not seen anyone else share?
brave coral
you said ‘i don’t like them’ essentially
solid hinge
Thats the problem with echo chambers
dense bone
but go ahead oh subpar one, you show us the light
brave coral
that’s also not an argument
solid hinge
Theyre OP because you dont have to challenge anyone 1v1, you can camp 100M+ from everyone and dont need to have any skills to land your shots now. It also makes the game worse because it conditions other classes to camp because otherwise they will get shot in the head immediately or lose half their health immediately when trying to push.
@solid hinge
dense bone
"bolts are op because i die to them"
brave coral
besides. when you bring a new idea to the table, it’s your job to prove it not our job to disprove
solid hinge
Recons camp -> they have an easy time damaging and killing opponents -> non recons get conditioned into camping too over time -> gameplay is stale as fuck because you have no option other than to camp too
@solid hinge
“You said u dont like them”
floral nimbus
solid hinge
Crying out loud
ionic ether
I’ve noticed that the people complaining about getting sniped a lot are also the people camping with bipods
brave coral
if you’re dying consistently to recons camping 100m away you’re playing wrong
floral nimbus
dense bone
recons do camp
they dont have easy time damaging and killing
you are not conditioned to camp as well
gameplay is not stale
you yourself dont even have better stats with bolts
so how can you say they are easy?
floral nimbus
dense bone
so your not adapting?
brave coral
because if they’re camping that far away you don’t know how to play recon so you’re probably not a very good sniper
dapper bronze
I mean recons can be annoying af
dense bone
and youre mad because you are stagnant?
brave coral
‘i don’t make personal attacks i use facts and logic in my arguments’
dense bone
if something starts beating you i would change something...
but thats what makes me a good player
solid hinge
Ok buddy
ionic ether
I snipe people from like 300m away sometimes. As long as I have a clear shot into an objective, and can spot enemies for my teammates 🤷♂️
brave coral
gets told how he can improve his gameplay
tells said advice giver to shut up
solid hinge
I understand sniping and the actual role of recon and I can respect that playstyle
Any1 up for multiplayer??
dense bone
@ionic ether i told him, he ignored
solid hinge
What I dont respect is campers and people who spawn, camp, die, spawn, camp, die
dense bone
!!lfg @solid hinge
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brave coral
you just don’t think they should be able to snipe effectively
solid hinge
That ruins the gameplay
floral nimbus
dense bone
bolts are actually decent, not even good, and hes raging
solid hinge
The point is, a good recon can snipe with the pre buff bolts
A good recon didnt need the buff
dense bone
youd have to be a VERY good recon pre 6.2 to be a good bolt user
brave coral
not effectively enough compared to literally any other weapon’s kill potential
dense bone
^
solid hinge
Because I didnt see any issue with them, and as nyphon already established im a subpar human
dense bone
not subpar human
latent dagger
just got to the game after few months , nothing realy changed or added
brave coral
also. i’m taking that as you needed the buff?
dense bone
just subpar bfv player
solid hinge
So who is this buff for
coral fiber
A friend of mine made a lil meme about pilots
dense bone
and i didnt deem that either, you and your stats did
coral fiber
I like this one
brave coral
those stats say otherwise
solid hinge
If I missed a shot I missed a shot
dense bone
xD
solid hinge
Wasnt the games fault
dense bone
its still not the games fault
solid hinge
Imagine stats meaning anything honestly
floral nimbus
brave coral
8 and a half hours spent with the kar98 and what. 250 kills was it?
solid hinge
I have like almost a thousand hours in the game
ionic ether
The snipers in this game are less strong than in others 🤔
solid hinge
The games vary so much
dense bone
!!oof
ruby trailBOT
yeet
ionic ether
Most games you can one shot people chest up
dense bone
bf1 had sweet spots so you could do that
ionic ether
Or hit them in the leg lol
dense bone
awp xD
floral nimbus
brave coral
aight imma head out now
solid hinge
Finally
brave coral
it’s been real fellas
brave coral
love ya @solid hinge
dense bone
"finally" as he says, the only person that thinks that, but this comes from the person that thinks bolts are op too
dense bone
according to ober they are
solid hinge
Which leaves me to believe there isnt one and only reason anyone would defend it is either ignorance or bias because they main recon and like the ease of use
fossil heron
OBER is wrong
solid hinge
Ok I admit maybe saying bolts are op is a bit hyperbolic
shy badger
kill wise it isn't the best
But it has amazing support gadgets
Flares
Spawn beacons
Even spotting scope
solid hinge
Arent those trash too
marsh gale
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there
fossil heron
Lmao
solid hinge
I remember nyphon telling me last year that spotting flare sucks
shy badger
Lol no spotting is op in bfv
solid hinge
Funny that one
fossil heron
It really is
dense bone
quote that?
marsh gale
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there
dense bone
i love spotting flares
icy sluice
Spotting is less OP than 3, 4, Hardline and 1
fossil heron
@marsh gale lmao
icy sluice
Because everyone can do it
marsh gale
@fossil heron why
dense bone
and yea, recon isnt even close to my best performing class
fossil heron
Medic is easy score
ionic ether
Semi auto rifles can outgun snipers at 100m 🤔
fossil heron
And assault has the best weapons
icy sluice
All classes are easy score if you play them in their role
ionic ether
If they miss the headshot they die
fossil heron
True
dense bone
assault is honestly the easiest class
marsh gale
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there Xbox
dense bone
(and my stats back that)
fossil heron
Had a top scoring recon that had 3 kills andike 10 deaths just spamming flares
fossil heron
No class is easy
solid hinge
gonna have to post my cv after every comment from now on
Otherwise nyphon will throw a fit
marsh gale
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there Xbox
fossil heron
Thats why I hate milsims
dense bone
solid hinge
I read that as muslims lol
fossil heron
Right there
dense bone
actually looks like medic is yourbest class
fossil heron
So spammy
dense bone
though your stat line is similar other than recon
recon by far your worst class...
bolts are one of your worst performing weapons too...
solid hinge
Dude youre so attached to stats
dense bone
but damn are they op
solid hinge
They mean absolutely nothing
solid hinge
Like I dont take bf5 serious
dense bone
as laughable as "bolts are op"
solid hinge
I only play with historically accurate guns
icy sluice
Okay.
fossil heron
Thats a poor excuse
dense bone
o no are you in 7md?
solid hinge
its not an excuse its the truth lmao
dense bone
this will all make sense if you are
solid hinge
Either way I dont need to explain jack shit to you
dense bone
you dont, your stats say it all
solid hinge
My opinion has the exact same value as yours
icy sluice
Here's the thing, limiting yourself has nothing to do with... the subject at hand?
fossil heron
You made a claim and you're backing it up with excuses
dense bone
our opinions do hold the same weight, but your opinions are... bad?
fossil heron
Lmao too many people telling you you're wrong?
icy sluice
We can try to be a bit more... civilized, Nyphon
solid hinge
Like you cant say anything without someone jumping down your throat trashing you
fossil heron
His opinions aren't grounded in any truth
solid hinge
shy badger
You weren't the most calm about it either ober
icy sluice
You can state your opinions but don't really jab away at each other like this, okay?
solid hinge
Well ofc not because nyphon is constantly trying to get me going
dense bone
i mean, idk what else to call an opinion when its "bolts are op"
solid hinge
Oh right
dense bone
c word as in cute?
icy sluice
You should know better than to circumvent the word filter
solid hinge
I even admitted that saying bolts are op was hyperbole
Youre not even up to debate
Youre just an asshole nyphon
solid hinge
What work lmao?
fossil heron
dense bone
to get you to go back on your statement
solid hinge
You telling me im trash and subhuman scum?
dense bone
i only said your a subpar bfv player
solid hinge
Thats just you being an asshole
dense bone
idk who you are as a person
fossil heron
The recons cant hurt you anymore
solid hinge
Yet apparently I cant say a thing because im not nyphon
Like the fuck kind of elitist community is this
dense bone
you made claims that recon are easy and that bolts are op, even though recon and bolts are both our worst performing classes and weapons...
solid hinge
I can say whatever the fuck I think
odd creek
N
marsh gale
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there Xbox
ionic ether
That is correct you can say whatever you think. But so can we. And we think you’re wrong 🤔
dense bone
@marsh gale you know theres more than 1 milsim group right?
fossil heron
No one here is in a milsim community group therefore we cant invite tou to one @marsh gale
solid hinge
Im not saying you cant
shy badger
Isn't that 7md clan from xbox?
dense bone
yea
solid hinge
But nyphon is saying I have no rights to opinions
shy badger
Try that then
fossil heron
Lol
dense bone
no, im saying your opinions are wrong and providing evidence to back up my claim
solid hinge
No you arent
dapper bronze
Lol I probably have like 0.3 kd or smth
fossil heron
He posted to show what role is worst performing
ionic ether
I think right now Semi auto rifles are super strong
solid hinge
Youre forfeiting my right to have an opinion by trashing me as a player
dense bone
i showed how recon and bolts are both our worst performing classes and weapons..
solid hinge
And shaming the way I play
dense bone
if they were easy and op that wouldnt be the case
dapper bronze
I mean
fossil heron
I shamed the way you play @solid hinge
dapper bronze
1 medic is more valuable than any good player
fossil heron
Not Nyphon
dapper bronze
So how good anyone is is kinda worthless
fossil heron
Silly goose
dense bone
i shamed that you are seemingly unwilling to adapt to a new "problem"
fossil heron
Bolts have a low mag, low rate of fire.
dense bone
and instead would prefer to just complain about it
solid hinge
Mate Ive said ive been playing for the past week
fossil heron
If you get killed by own its because youre positioned wrong or you got out played
dense bone
i tried telling you how to play against it and you just ignore it 🤷
solid hinge
I presented a counter argument to that which I have tried already
It did not work
I didnt just ignore it
dense bone
your counter was "i just get shot by a bunch of them"
solid hinge
Yeah which is what has happened
dapper bronze
Bolts are annoying and there's not much you can do against them
They're like planes
solid hinge
I agree with that
fossil heron
There's plenty you can do
dapper bronze
Unavoidable and you hope they're not too good
dense bone
you smoke them off, run back and forth
fossil heron
Smoke grenades exist
dapper bronze
Hide behind rocks
dense bone
ive NEVER been scared of a bolt user
dapper bronze
And run around
fossil heron
Yeah they're at a disadvantage
solid hinge
Like nyphon just cuz that worked for you once doesnt make it a viable strategy
fossil heron
Lol
dense bone
once?
dapper bronze
It's generally less than 2 seconds after you go top gun that you get headshot
solid hinge
Like honest
fossil heron
That works for me all day
dense bone
^
any time i play there are bolt users
i see that glint zig zag perpendicular to them
solid hinge
whats the current discussion about
dense bone
throw smokes
dapper bronze
My main map is Hamada which is bolt heaven
solid hinge
Nyphon and how big his dick is
dense bone
bolts are the least of my worries
solid hinge
Hes waving it around like mad
dapper bronze
Also zig zagging doesn't work bf5 snipers have incredible aim
dense bone
gotta do something with it
dapper bronze
If a sniper wants you dead you're dead
brave coral
@solid hinge boins man and how he can’t adapt to the game
dense bone
@dapper bronze lol no they dont xD
dapper bronze
Unless you hide
odd creek
R
solid hinge
Pumble hope u have stats to back that up
brave coral
some of them do @dapper bronze but not many
dense bone
id be willing to bet most snipers have a 40% accuracy
brave coral
might be different on pc
dense bone
im on pc
solid hinge
Stts
fossil heron
Ober is a salty boy
solid hinge
Stats
dense bone
and if he does have bad stats that kind of backs up what ive been saying...
solid hinge
Im gonna have to block u nyphon I just cant take it
fossil heron
Salty salty
brave coral
but yeah i’m actually going to head out because ober is going to makes me OD on sodium the amount of salt he’s putting out
dapper bronze
I don't get kills outside vehicles
solid hinge
Seeing that fucking cat makes me want to punch the fucking wall
dapper bronze
And I still enjoy the game
dense bone
xD
fossil heron
Punch it
dapper bronze
🤷♀️
fossil heron
Let the hate flow through you
solid hinge
Cant say the things I wanna say so lets just say its a wall
Yeah
Blocked
Peace
Finally
fossil heron
He blocked you Nyphon
dense bone
you can say what you want, but if you make outlandish claims im gonna call them out
solid hinge
No more
fossil heron
You win lol
solid hinge
We both win
dense bone
dont get mad when i can basically prove them wrong too
solid hinge
Or irdc what he gets
fossil heron
He won ober
dense bone
nyphon 1
ober 0
solid hinge
Only thing that matters to me is I never have to see his messages again
dapper bronze
Nyphon didn't really give an argument
dense bone
what?!
dapper bronze
He just said no
solid hinge
Stats pumble
fossil heron
If you block everyone who tells you you're wrong you're gunna be a lonely boy
solid hinge
Give stats
fossil heron
Lonely and salty
solid hinge
To back up ur claim
odd creek
Is it worth buying ps plus to play bf1 multiplayer
dapper bronze
Which stats
fossil heron
I survived facts lol
dense bone
@odd creek might want to ask in #lfg-playstation to see how many people are playing bf1 in the first place
odd creek
Ahhh ok
dense bone
i imagine most people are on bfv
solid hinge
Well I never said they werent so I dont really see your point big chief
dense bone
but theres probably a few servers still running for bf1 depending on region and time
fossil heron
I can just see why you have a problem either recon
odd creek
I think bf1 is still alive tbh
solid hinge
If so then you understand my frustration
dense bone
because they are op duh @fossil heron
dapper bronze
Recon isn't op it's just annoying
dense bone
@odd creek im on pc so i cant help you out
dapper bronze
For literally everyone
solid hinge
Agreed
dense bone
not me...
fossil heron
Bf1 is strong on xbox 1
dense bone
but apparently i dont fall under "everyone"
dapper bronze
They do f all for their team and get cancer kills
fossil heron
I find recons on my team annoying
solid hinge
Damn finally someone who gets it
dapper bronze
Every recon is annoying
solid hinge
Recons contribute absolutely nothing
dense bone
they hardly get kills too
icy sluice
I feel attacked now
dapper bronze
Nah it doesn't even matter if they get kills
solid hinge
Theyre only a hinderance to the team
not dissing any recon mains but recons are annoying
icy sluice
peck you guys
dapper bronze
Cus the kills are useless
dense bone
oh yea raptor is a recon main
dapper bronze
BURN RAPTOR
icy sluice
Turning into a Shovel main
solid hinge
Like imo you remove recons, game is infinitely more better
dapper bronze
Kinda true
solid hinge
and they arent op, anyone can counter recon
dapper bronze
Not really
icy sluice
Anyone can counter anybody
fossil heron
I agree with you there ober lol
solid hinge
when recon mains are steady taking pot shots at me
dapper bronze
Not when theyre sitting on a hill 250m away on hamada
solid hinge
i switch to recon and take them out
solid hinge
Countless times when youre in the moment, survived so much shit and bam shot in the back of the head by some camper in a bush
coral fiber
Never used the shovel
Always used the Bat
dense bone
even raptors stats (a recon main) doesnt perform the best on recon
dapper bronze
Idk I probably have bias
dense bone
dapper bronze
Since I always play on hamada
And it has some of the worst recon cancer
Of any map
solid hinge
Height advantage maps make it worse
dapper bronze
Hanada is incredibly long
solid hinge
and the visibility being ass doesnt help
dapper bronze
Like at the first objective
dense bone
i want to find ANYONE that plays all the classes have recon as their best performing
solid hinge
Idk if they changed something or im not just used to it again but seeing people is so fucking difficult
icy sluice
@dense bone Wait are those mine?
solid hinge
first objective on recon is nothing but recon
dense bone
yee
icy sluice
Jeez I never thought thought about that huge score gap between Recon and Support
solid hinge
dyslexic
dapper bronze
Most maps don't have as much of a problem with recons I guess
Cuz there's hills and buildings
dense bone
well you do have 17 days on recon raptor
solid hinge
aerodrome and hamada is recon heaven
dapper bronze
Which makes them in easy distance
dense bone
more than double your 2nd most
solid hinge
They still find a way to ruin your fun though I find
icy sluice
Just realized Ayla's pfps are getting more and more crazy
dapper bronze
But yes recons are just annoying
dense bone
coronavirus getting to ayla
icy sluice
More of Battlefield getting to Ayla than the actual virus
dense bone
xD
icy sluice
Because she's stinki :p
icy sluice
She just spoke, we're bound to get one
solid hinge
i rant harder than ayla does
Damn cant believe ive chatted here for an hour
im fucking billy bridger
worn flare
ah yes bfv am i right
dense bone
marsh gale
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there Xbox
dense bone
ayla at least has 1 stat best on recon
marsh gale
Lol
dense bone
ayla atm is the best case for "recon easy, bolts are op"
and they only have 1 stat the best...
solid hinge
k/d on medic is skewed because i played a shitload of squad conquest with it
dense bone
ahh
icy sluice
I am honestly more of a melee main tbh
dense bone
well even still, recon not the best
solid hinge
same
worn flare
shovel main ngl
dense bone
the point being that hardly anyone has the best performance on recon, despite someone claiming they are easy and op
solid hinge
shovel knight gang
kpm on assault... I'm chalking that up to explosives
Like do you guys not play games to enjoy them?
dense bone
i enjoy being good at the game
teal compass
say that to E-Sports
fossil heron
Im like ash ketchum
solid hinge
Is this like a thing of seeing the numbers go up and thats the enjoyment?
icy sluice
I enjoy slaughtering lives left and right
fossil heron
Gotta be the very best
dense bone
^
dapper bronze
Lol
worn flare
solid hinge
wait
dapper bronze
All deez Bois talking about stats
dapper bronze
Me with literally 0.3kd at best
solid hinge
feast your eyes upon the bolt stats and despair
dense bone
@solid hinge we have, well at least i have
teal compass
my KD is shit lmao
solid hinge
at 0.3kpm
dapper bronze
How do you link your stata
dense bone
but ober doesnt care about those
gloomy vale
shy badger
Can't you just let it go nyphon?
dense bone
any sort of data towards a claim is meaningless
fossil heron
You dont have to care about stats but you cant say they mean nothing
dense bone
^
glacial pagoda
icy sluice
Enjoy this clip of me feasting on snipers https://streamable.com/5e3k49
worn flare
how do i have a 1.26 kd
dense bone
@shy badger i could, but it doesnt bother me either way
fossil heron
Imo trencg pistols are more OP
marsh gale
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there Xbox
solid hinge
Ayla now that ur here maybe you can offer me an argument on why bolts deserved this buff and why they “werent good” before. Im yet to get this from other people who think bolts deserved this so hopefully you can provide insight
marsh gale
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there Xbox
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there Xbox
Can someone invite me to the milsim community group please. I am a new milsim leader and need to get on there Xbox
dense bone
jesus christ
dapper bronze
Boi
solid hinge
Christ alfie
solid hinge
how do i see my stats
icy sluice
Muted the user
glacial pagoda
banned
shy badger
aaaaaaaaaaand muted
glacial pagoda
aw
dapper bronze
Go in the stats channel
fossil heron
Lmao
solid hinge
@marsh gale there is no milsim here chief
dapper bronze
Copy the command
solid hinge
battlefieldtracker.com @solid hinge
latent dagger
BF V milsim 
fossil heron
Just peeps that feast on mildims
latent dagger
more like miss sim
dapper bronze
Just use the stats channel
icy sluice
I remember seeing a clip of 7MD taking a victory picture and then the leader roadkilled everyone
dense bone
didnt i tell ober why bolts were in need of a buff before?
worn flare
YA BOIS IM DA NEW LEADER 
fossil heron
I showed up just as the salt started pouring
solid hinge
Bolts had incredibly slow velocity before, along with slow fire rates/low body shot damage/big fuckin glint
they suck in basically every meaningful way
fossil heron
The sweet spot was a bit OP in BF1 tho
dapper bronze
Bruh why are there no salt emojis on this dc
dense bone
all the buffs did was make them decent now
worn flare
mmg camping is the way to play
dense bone
"viable" at best imo
solid hinge
Now they have higher velocity they're not totally outclassed at range at least but I'd still say they're the weakest weapon type
dense bone
id still rather use a ranged SAR
solid hinge
But what makes you believe bolts should be on the same level as other guns though
worn flare
just the lunge mine is all you need
solid hinge
what a good accuracy percentage
fossil heron
Agreed @worn flare
dense bone
... why wouldnt bolts be on the same level as other guns?!
solid hinge
Like I mean
personally i would prefer them to not be on the same level as other guns but be able to permanently kill someone with a headshot
dapper bronze
Have you lot even been on hamada
solid hinge
Why should a bolt action be compared to say an stg
dapper bronze
Like ever
dense bone
why would you actively say "this weapon type should be worse"
fossil heron
Permanently
glacial pagoda
7md
fossil heron
Through the screen
solid hinge
if you die in the game you die in real life
worn flare
lunge mine> bolts
fossil heron
Fuck yo couch
fossil heron
BF in VR tho
solid hinge
fossil heron
On LSD
dense bone
lol ober asked the wrong person about bolts when he asked ayla xD
solid hinge
Seems like there is no point
dapper bronze
You barely ever see self loaders
dense bone
hes not hearing anything of what he wants
dapper bronze
Bolts = free kills
fossil heron
As his hat explains he's used to echo chambers
icy sluice
Self-Loaders are definitely better than Bolts
solid hinge
Its like arguing against flat earthers in a flat earth forum
dense bone
xD
solid hinge
Ask why the bolts aren't on the same level as the ZH
dense bone
hes turned against ayla now
solid hinge
If you want an easy comparison
dapper bronze
Hmm
fossil heron
On the same level as 2a users
dapper bronze
I play Hamada constantly which is recon heaven
solid hinge
Guess best thing I can do is to just stop playing bf5 again until they reverse the nerf
solid hinge
When did the buff get added in
worn flare
I get the worst luck with the ZH
fossil heron
The buff is nice
dense bone
they are 100% not going to reverse bolt buffs xD
fossil heron
I lovebit
solid hinge
i use semi auto rifles on hamada
icy sluice
Bolt Nerf is not going to happen
glacial pagoda
i use guns
fossil heron
Even e recon being my least played class the buff is magnificent
solid hinge
I mean it might
icy sluice
iirc the Bolt Buff was added in... 6.2?
leaden fable
@icy sluice I wanna see that 7MD clip plz
glacial pagoda
same here
coral fiber
Bolts are ok rn
glacial pagoda
12pz
solid hinge
there's no way they'll revert bolt buffs
icy sluice
I mean the bolts were buffed so that the velocity would match other muzzle velocities
solid hinge
When did 6.2 come about
leaden fable
@glacial pagoda 12th Panzer
fossil heron
A month ago?
solid hinge
Which makes no sense
uneven hollow
Guys you remember these outfits
glacial pagoda
@leaden fable did 116 fight with or against you
solid hinge
bolts were literally slower than other weapons it was stuoud as hell
Stg44 doesnt ohk
uneven hollow
leaden fable
PM's @glacial pagoda
fossil heron
I want those shorts
icy sluice
@uneven hollow combine the long coat with the shorts
fossil heron
They need to add jorts
solid hinge
bolts were buffed?
Even if you get a headshot with every bolt shot you kill slower than other weapons after the first shot
how so
worn flare
whoa whoa whoa, where are the robot arms
dense bone
could you imagine if the stg ohk xD
icy sluice
Bolts got a muzzle velocity buff in 6.2 I think
uneven hollow
Ima about show you guys a cursed outfit
solid hinge
the model 27 ohks to the head up to 30 metres
dense bone
a gun that has 5x the ROF of a sniper that could ohk xD
worn flare
this is not what the trailer showed me 😠
solid hinge
bolts arent op
uneven hollow
fossil heron
No lol
uneven hollow
fossil heron
That smile
solid hinge
Just have to hope enough people are complaining about it
dense bone
echo chamber
coral fiber
That revolver is so good
shy badger
oh god why
fossil heron
Will haunt m
icy sluice
From Braddock512
Bolt Action Rifles now have higher muzzle velocities across the board. These weapons are Battlefield's longest range weapons, and are out performed by other weapons due to the bullet velocity. This adjustment will return Bolt Action Rifles to be the kings of long and very long range combat.
uneven hollow
Idk why 
fossil heron
You're the only one complaining about the bolt buff
dense bone
they still arent even kings xD
solid hinge
man just cringing at that text
dense bone
SLRs still easily beat them
solid hinge
fuckin braddock
dense bone
and SARs still challenge them
worn flare
is dragging for revive ever gonna happen?
dense bone
no
solid hinge
no
icy sluice
MAS44 had 900m/s while the Kar98k had like 700m/s I think
fossil heron
That's ridiculous
dense bone
xD
solid hinge
"these weapons are battlefields longest range weapons" says who? their stats certainly don't
Mas doesnt ohk
limber lily
why do we need to put our phone number to use this discord on mobile
dense bone
someone tell ober mas has 3x the ROF than a bolt
fossil heron
Yeah but there's no buf
uneven hollow
The exhibition outfit is best American outfit
coral fiber
@solid hinge about that revolver...
fossil heron
Bolt*
icy sluice
But due to the rate of fire differences, the MAS outperformed a bolt
solid hinge
Well thank christ I joined before that became a thing
Not gonna give my phone number to this discord
uneven hollow
Tbh would be nice if we got a Japanese revolver
solid hinge
hitting an actual headshot with the bolts at a reasonable distance with how fast people's heads move is incredibly unlikely
worn flare
model 27 
solid hinge
So assuming that was the case
getting headshots kinda hard
Imo its too easy now
and you can dump like an entire mas44 mag in the time it takes to cycle the krag
fossil heron
@solid hinge no one wants your #
coral fiber
Idk even know how far i shot his head
solid hinge
people move too fast
coral fiber
Like 40m or something
solid hinge
@fossil heron blocked
icy sluice
It is always nice to take out those MMG campers with bolt actions though https://streamable.com/0h2c3
fossil heron
Lmao
solid hinge
Good lord your revolvers
limber lily
seriously tho, why do we have to put our phonenumber to use this discord on mobile
coral fiber
I was surprised cuz i barely saw the fucker
solid hinge
They're nice for ease of use but they shoot too goddamn slow to actually be useful
You can dance around 5 snipers camping shooting at you
That's how shit they are
Prolly some discord partner thing that makes it easier to perma ban a user
worn flare
liberator pistol 😍
limber lily
nah it isnt manatory to have it set to that
solid hinge
trying to kill infantry, by time bullet reaches them they arent in the same spot anymore
limber lily
the admins put it like that
solid hinge
frequently I'll be taking a point and dodging fire from 5+ snipers for over a minute while they just camp out of reach; had they basically any other gun the sheer quantity of bullets would force me to actually move
icy sluice
We've turned it off
limber lily
i would check but my phone ded
solid hinge
then when you do eventually die you come back with your own bolt and kill them all because they're proned for some reason
man why do people prone with bolts in this game
it takes one usage to understand they have basically 0 sway
the dailies
and assignments
and the glint lights you up like nothing else
worn flare
america pistol 
limber lily
ghosty did you get ur sapper tank skin yet
solid hinge
get 20 headshots while prone from over 100m in one life
fuck the prone assignments
and no
they're the worst
uneven hollow
Tbh that assignments are BS
solid hinge
exactly
limber lily
i guess XBOX 1 superior cuz i got mine
icy sluice
Prone Assignments can be done in Combined Arms
uneven hollow
Like why not let us kill 100 people
icy sluice
Thank God lol
uneven hollow
Or even 500 people
solid hinge
Prone assignments are easy
Just do them in CA
People prone with bolts cuz theyre hiding
uneven hollow
Feck make it to where we kill 1000 people
solid hinge
Because bolt users are scared of one on one fights
icy sluice
The glint lights you up more than someone playing Caramelldansen with flashing lights at 3AM
solid hinge
tfw flare gun is my actual second highest gun because sten is vehicles
solid hinge
Can barely even see the glint sometimes cuz the maps are so cluttered
icy sluice
I mean, you can see the glint when in a fuckin' plane
solid hinge
on hamada, aerodrome, and iwo jima, i always see like
30 glints at one time
the 3x glint is barely noticable for me
cause the whole team is recon
while 6x is lighthouse
and this is after the glint nerf
Til they have different glint sizes
when the game released 3x glint was like 6x glint]
6x glint was like
Oh
literally the sun
coral fiber
I want 8x scopr
icy sluice
scopr
coral fiber
Yes
uneven hollow
Tbh imagine if we had flash flare gun
icy sluice
^^
uneven hollow
It’ll be bright as the rising sun
coral fiber
That... Was intentional yes
uneven hollow
icy sluice
If I wanted to flash my enemies I would... nvm
worn flare
bruh
coral fiber
psh
no it was not
icy sluice
nah
solid hinge
i got a single kill with planes
worn flare
i hate planes
solid hinge
Planes are actually really easy
Because there is only one way to be successful
its hard for me
is 18.3 accuracy good
worn flare
fly them into people
worn flare
best weapon in the game is the finger gun
solid hinge
then liberator
icy sluice
💪 
🍤
worn flare
when i found the finger gun in game i thought i was the coolest dude
ashen star
Have I missed out on anything major in the game that I can’t buy or earn?
I don’t care about skins
solid hinge
pretty much just skins
ashen star
Sick
solid hinge
u can buy weapons and stuff with cc
fossil heron
Enders is pretty toxic eh?
shy badger
yea very
ashen star
Best mode to lvl medic?
shy badger
Scq
ashen star
I’ve been playing breakthru a lot
fossil heron
I can feel his blood pressure from here
shy badger
Bt can work too
ashen star
Scq?
dapper bronze
Breakthrough Pacific storm
shy badger
But on SCQ I usually get a much higher spm
worn flare
MP40 and liberator pistol, med bags and smoke rifle.
shy badger
Squad conquest
ashen star
“How tf u verified as god”
ashen star
Oh dang I got the mp40
solid hinge
it seems that people cycle what guns they use by word of mouth
ashen star
I just want a good gun so I can lvl medic and use the Thompson
I just want the Thompson
worn flare
mp40 is what i use, i feel like the range on is is kinda dummy
solid hinge
i notice i never get killed by a variety of guns, just periods of getting by same gun
was a time no one used anything but m2 carbine
then type 2a
now the zk
solid hinge
i dont see it as much anymore
worn flare
turner SMLE
solid hinge
i noticed increase of that too
dense bone
@solid hinge yea your other weapons performance is much better than bolts
solid hinge
why cant people just use what works for them and not what they think will get them kills
worn flare
if i can kill people with it than thats what ill use
solid hinge
monika is just a german helena
dense bone
raptors kpm with bolts are his lowest too
solid hinge
i just seen smth super rare
worn flare
huh
fathom crow
Anyone PlayStation 3 Battlefield 4?
worn flare
yoooooo
solid hinge
and let supports repair
worn flare
jeep towing aa cannon tho
solid hinge
every tanker i come across until now would just drive off and let no on repair or hop in
ashen star
For the first couple games I thought the fortification building kit was a repair kit and kept hitting the tanks with a hammer
dapper bronze
For my first couple of games I was convinced there was an item that let you freebuild
dense bone
like fortnite?
ionic ether
I like the tromboner gun for medic lol
dense bone
with blow torch?
odd creek
Anyone else want dice to remake Battlefield: Vietnam?
dapper bronze
Yeah or any tool kit
Like if you run out of explosives
Is there any way to damage vehicles
solid hinge
im getting sick and hecking tired of the UI not fricking working
fossil heron
Getting sick of team balance not being a thing
dense bone
explosives, blow torch, boom broom, rockets/grenades and at rifle does damage
floral nimbus
I want another modern military
fossil heron
Theres 20 people under level 20 on my team
dense bone
i think small vehicles can take dmg from guns
solid hinge
@fossil heron getting sick and tired of losing cause 12 vs 32
ionic ether
If you choose engineer class on support you can kill tanks with the repair tool
dapper bronze
Huh I swear I've tried to attack vehicles with blow torches b4
worn flare
i hate how grind is not in game because of the menu screen
dense bone
but basically none of those do much beyond rockets and boom broom and blowtorch
ionic ether
Only works on engineer
dapper bronze
Lol I remember one Hamada game I killed 3 transports with an AA gun
dense bone
apparently blowtorch can kill the fastest