Body customisation is a bit bare bones at the moment
#battlefield-legacy-titles
prime pine
icy sluice
Panzergrenadier with the Last Tiger turret customization is good
solid hinge
the zh-29 cant one shot people even with headshots less than 50m, but god damn its a laser
icy sluice
The ZH-29 can't one shot people at all
solid hinge
and fast rof for a bolt action
prime pine
We have a lot but i mean the exotic stuff. Like the Chi ha skin, or the churchill skin
solid hinge
i been leveling recon
and this gun so good
i say at long range vs other recon its outclassed
but medium range sniper is sweet
prime pine
Its a very good candidate for a long range scope
solid hinge
i been actually getting kills hipfiring
prime pine
Using a long range scope WITHOUT recoil buffer is just fucked
soft juniper
COD WW2 make BF5 a masterpiece 
solid hinge
i hip shotted and killed a bunch of assault and support up close
and rapid hip firing
Wait us that Pz IV skin coming or has it already been released
Haven't been able to play because bandwidth where I am is broken rn due to the amount of people at home
uneven hollow
Tbh cod WW2 should’ve had specialist
Bfv should also have specialist
what could go wrong with bfv having 64 specialist
solid hinge
Specialists were a bad idea in general so I disagree alot
But that Pz IV
I must know
uneven hollow
It’s fine in certain games like over watch
solid hinge
I want that Pz IV skin
solid hinge
oh boy oh boy
uneven hollow
It’s coming soon noice
solid hinge
I can finally rock a skin that isn't the Last Tiger
compact oxide
!!when
ruby trailBOT
Soon™
compact oxide
That's when it's coming
ruby trailBOT
Soon™
uneven hollow
Noice
solid hinge
when i get to that rank i will
when u desperately need to push and take first sector before u run out of tickets, but ur squad is camping in tank 100m from objective
The Model 8 and Selbstlater 1906 are also pretty good
spamming turrent but hitting nothing
Just don't use the ZH because you will be bullied
cause big hill in way
5head
It's too op
solid hinge
im using the zh now
and i still main mp40 as medic, still pawn
nerf type 2 users to the point they cant spawn
soft juniper
Type 2A is that bad
prime pine
Im s fucking twitchy right now
soft juniper
It just good at 30m and will be demolished furthur range
solid hinge
i am particularly annoyed by tankers
the vast majority
not even enemy tankers
tankers on ur own team
solid hinge
camping 200m away from the objective
soft juniper
Beside from tanking campers
solid hinge
being almost as uncontributing to the team as recon
soft juniper
But if them push they gonna get demolished by Assualt
burnt falcon
Only a rare breed of recon helps the team
soft juniper
That's actually the meta for all BF games
soft juniper
Camp somewhere, suppress the enemies to pusj objectives
soft juniper
Just in BF4 tanks are 10x more vulnerable
burnt falcon
I’ve gone on huge streaks using the revolver
As recon
At least planes can take out camping tanks
soft juniper
Unless you got a Sherman with flamethrower, there are no ways you gonna push 
solid hinge
they dont gotta push
icy sluice
HE Smoke Shells work wonders
solid hinge
i dont mind if they camp say
80m from objective
and spam shells and mmgs
but sitting far as heck tryna snipe and fail at doing so is a waste of a tank
soft juniper
They only not gonna camp if there is a MMG on top
And also BF5 tank turret move slow as hell
solid hinge
i cut people to pieces with tank mmg
stable marlin
i wish they would make more map remakes
soft juniper
Pushing mean putting yourself at a huge disadvantage
solid hinge
thats good
soft juniper
The historical accuracy of tanks accidentally nerf them a huge time
vague silo
All my team mates are noobs
solid hinge
and i just opened fire point plank on someone i was standing behind and they king crimsoned me
vague silo
I’m the only one that’s trying wow
vague silo
My team mates are to busy scratching there ass and I’m out there doing all the work
Wow
Just wow Team of the year
solid hinge
thats bfv in a nutshell
vague silo
Pravo Javo
solid hinge
dice pls fix players next update
burnt falcon
What is the longest headshot you have made
vague silo
My team mates:🤔🤤🤷🏻♂️. Me:😡😡😡 get your ass on that field
solid hinge
lmao
burnt falcon
Damn
solid hinge
get your ass on that field
vague silo
Yes
burnt falcon
How is my accuracy 0?
burnt falcon
I didn’t know that was possible
solid hinge
it seems noob players purposely try to be annoying
i could be aiming at someone suppressing us
and they'd get in front of me
and face me and not move
like move tf out the way
then we both die
vague silo
They are annoying and they past well
solid hinge
gremlins they are
vague silo
Asses they are
uneven hollow
icy sluice
tmw there are 4 guys teabagging the MMG guy in the corner
solid hinge
thats my team
shooting in the air
letting the enemy know of our presence
infiltration has found
lilac umbra
solid hinge
not kidding either, legit they started firing
lilac umbra
why dice doesnt have job listing for level design
uneven hollow
Because of tech
solid hinge
they tech isnt there
vague silo
When I saw my team mate pointing his gun to the sky I said oh no
uneven hollow
To get the people to join them they need tech to hire them
lilac umbra
whats that
lilac umbra
my wl is always negative
solid hinge
well actually its smack dead at 51%
but still
one of the mods like u and gave u the role
whose toes do i have to suck
icy sluice
It was for the giveaway we had
prime pine
Tsch.... There was a guy who was trying to take me out in his 1C for the entire game
I kept on out looping him and taking him out
vague silo
RIP me
Again
It happens
My team keeps dying
Please Lord give me a good server
I just joined a server and instantly defeat
Whhhhhhhy
Again my team scratch’s there ass
https://youtu.be/4AUfna02l-g
This is how stupid my team is in BFV
solid hinge
lmfao
soft juniper
When the cloud starting speaking siren
vague silo
https://youtu.be/ZjYgrtvUYeg
Im like the nossel guy talking to my team mates
coral shale
They shutdown the African Servers 😦
Nah fam I dont live in Africa, though I use their Servers to get 50 ping
The next best ping for me is 219
vague silo
Yess I got a good team
shell stone
Are there any game modes that are slower paced?
soft juniper
So where exactly your living
shell stone
Nah
solid hinge
Is there really no leaver penalty for BFV?
I notice that if the scales tip even slightly in the enemies favour like 1/4 of your team will just... Quit
TDM anyway
And the teams can be super unbalanced and I'm gonna shit my pants basically
it counts as a a lose on their stats
That's not a penalty lol
wild jacinth
i dont understand firestorm players who want to 1 man tank
solid hinge
if it was a game with a way smaller playercount like ow, maybe a time penalty
wild jacinth
and like i was excited to play with this dude that pretty much tanks the whole time and he told me to go top gunner what an insult
solid hinge
but issuing a penalty for a game with a huge player count like battlefield
its kinda not ideal
people quitting sucks, but its whatever
I don't mean immediate but if it becomes obvious you repeatedly quit games there's no reason to not penalise
I'm much harsher on it than I should be because I hate gamers
they dont have the tech to have good sportmanship in game
noble field
They penalize you in Dead by daylight if you leave or DC in game a lot same in Overwatch
Toxic players get weeded out quickly
Love winning 5 v 6
solid hinge
Not really, it's just a small slap on the wrist in that game
I wish they would just chop off the wrist for leaving games
noble field
0 tolerance towards bullshit sounds like a good idea.
solid hinge
But then you end up with a system like league of legends
if they penalized it in battlefield there would be no players
look at some maps
stomps that favor a certain team pretty frustrating
even tempts me to quit and i usually wait until the game over to leave a server
But for like a comp mode if there is one
I don't play BF5
shy badger
Besides, its a casual game. You shouldn't need to commit to a match
solid hinge
For normal game it would be terrible, especially on those high ticket games
vague silo
A enemy soldier was going to head but me but then one of my team mates shot him just on time then I was safe
Has anyone had that before
soft juniper
Wow BF4 is really go far in term of weapons animation and sounds
It did a lot of thing right even though the animation are slower than MW 2019
And the sounds are a little bit repetitive
wet fossil
I remember seeing comparisons between weapons in BF3 and Modern Warfare.
Like night and day it was.
But now I come back to BF4 and it all just feels flat.
Because the newer games are so much punchier.
prime pine
Bfh's scar h sounds good
bleak heron
The l85a2 assignment sucks poo
vague silo
What’s better Turner SMLE or M1 Carbine
vague silo
How many hits for kill
shy badger
I think 3 to 5 but lemme look it up one sec
vague silo
Ok
wet fossil
BF4 weapon unlock assignments are silly.
Always requiring specific maps and modes that often simply aren't in rotation anymore.
And then doing specific things within those modes.
shy badger
Yea it sucks
There was a guy here some months ago that had a problem unlocking something and had to ask for people to join a server and help him
gloomy kraken
same with bf3 and hardline
wet fossil
For instance, the F2000
It requires Metro, kills inside the trains specifically
Don't know whether that means enemies within them or just being in there yourself
It's not exactly clear on that.
Metro servers are surprisingly difficult to come by. Anybody wanting a meatgrinder server just fucks off to Locker.
gloomy kraken
because metro is a dlc map
wet fossil
Which I maintain is still one of the worst maps in the series.
shy badger
And that's exactly the reason why I don't miss premium
gloomy kraken
i think it means inside the tunnels
keen cosmos
brhh
I hate these assholes who camp spawn in jets
games will cause me death
Slowly probably
hollow igloo
It really sucks the m1 carbine isn’t that good cuz I love the gun
eager shore
Hell, it's a relief that DICE ditched having gameplay features locked behind Assigments. It was at its worst in Battlefield 1 with those perks being locked behind silly missions.
forest rapids
sup yall
anyone know how long it'll take me to get a positive fd
kd*
started playing yesterday on ps4
I've heard bf sucks for beginners
simple talon
on console it's awful for beginners. The platform is basically separated between hardcore tryhards that stay 24/7 in front of the TV going like 80-5 consistently and a plethora of low levels that can't even enjoy the game because of that
Just look at Maxiq videos, he has indeed a ton of skill but in the majority of the clips enemy players are completely clueless. He shreds down entire objectives without even one of them turning around. On PC it is much, much more difficult to do so
shrewd scaffold
Does anyone else have the problem that they lean automatically
forest rapids
also why is L2 both lean and aim down?
shrewd scaffold
I have my left and right leaning key bound to crtl and alt
forest rapids
when i press L2 it does one of the two
prime pine
Interesting . You can mount over stuff while bayonet charging
eager shore
anyone know how long it'll take me to get a positive fd
kd*
started playing yesterday on ps4
I've heard bf sucks for beginners
It will take a while, depending. It took me about four Battlefield games (from Bad Company 2 to Battlefield 1) before I got good. Try watching Broken Machine's tips videos on YouTube. He gives some great tips on stuff like situational awareness, aim sensitivity suggestions, etc.
Does anyone else have the problem that they lean automatically
I turn that contextual leaning setting off. Manual leaning is much more reliable.
gloomy kraken
my bf3 kd was ~3 and my bf4 was ~4 and bfv is ~6
prime pine
Oh i know you can jump but you can mount over things. Which i didnt notice.
eager shore
TIL
gloomy kraken
there should also be somekind of manual peeking as well
eager shore
also why is L2 both lean and aim down?
You lean to aim if you're near the edge of a corner. I think you can turn that setting off.
gloomy kraken
expecially in the moments when crouching is too low but standing is too high
eager shore
Yeah, I keep that one on.
gloomy kraken
but as its only automatic it only works when aiming
eager shore
Peek over I keep on, contextual leaning left or right I turn off.
gloomy kraken
but yeah, automatic leaning screws you if you are using bipod only guns.
when you are trying to set it up where two fortifications clip each other
noble field
Maxiq also has 10 clan mates who are telling him where everyone is on stream and softening up kills for him
IF the lobby even starts to get stacked he dodges to next map
People stream snipe and follow him around. But yes he is a talented player
prime pine
NOOOOO 99 kills not a solid 100
stoic breach
kind jackal
is BF1 dead in Oceania?
forest rapids
favourite map anyone?
vague silo
9 kills and 3 deaths and my server crashed
What the hell
How scary
Oh wait I am playing on US server from AU
😛
😪
😢
Stupid US server
dapper bronze
Bruh what is this
11/12 revives in one round for 2 assignements
And I get stuck on the death screen
wintry valve
are there french for a bf5 server eu
solid carbon
12 revives are just taking a few minutes^^
eager shore
favourite map anyone?
In Battlefield V, definitely Iwo Jima. It's a giant classic Battlefield map.
Alongside that, Panzerstorm.
soft juniper
Devastation, Operation Underground, Iwo Jima 
Panzerstorm is more like a field than a battlefield
wet fossil
Damn those last few matches were great.
Found a server that had no signs of platoons on either side.
It was very well balanced, a proper fight to be had.
Managed 16,000 points on that last one on Arras.
Another thing to be noted is the amount of new players on both sides.
Even a couple of level 0s.
eager shore
I have bias towards Panzerstorm because it's a great map for tank fights.
wet fossil
Good to get new blood around here.
brave coral
yeah quarantine is getting new/inexperienced players in
eager shore
But even infantry can do decently around the middle flags.
wet fossil
Sixteen thousand points, and even managed to actually kill something with a V1
soft juniper
The only problem is that it's is not a great map for infantry players
wet fossil
That, plus a squad that actually gave half a shit.
brave coral
i’ve had some people who by the outfits theyre wearing, bought the deluxe edition which isn’t available anymore and were like <rank 20
cosmic stream
panzerstorm sucks major ass
wet fossil
They communicated, even without voice.
soft juniper
Its like capture C in Arras
brave coral
nothing better than randoms who actually use and pay attention to pings
soft juniper
Nobody cares about C point in Arras because it not worth the risk
cosmic stream
yea
wet fossil
That one stayed pretty reliably red through the whole thing.
cosmic stream
i feel like b and e are the only points
brave coral
sometimes i swear there must be an option to turn it off the way my squadmates distinctly ignore the red pings spammed into the guy camping in a corner
wet fossil
There was a group who were pretty persistent in coming after D.
Found that they were spawning in the grain field to the west.
brave coral
try spawn AA campers in breakthrough
wet fossil
Part of the problem is the total lack of AA options on Arras.
brave coral
wow good job getting 2 kills in the entire game
brave coral
i kind of forget that Arras has planes since it doesn’t in breakthrough
wet fossil
Exactly the problem. If there were guns on the rest of the map people would use those instead and be exposed.
brave coral
spitfire isn’t very good against AA unless you have the rockets on the VB
cosmic stream
im grinding for that now
wet fossil
Not to mention the benefits of, you know, having AA options against bomber shits.
brave coral
anything with bombs or rockets can just take out an AA gun easy
eager shore
The only problem is that it's is not a great map for infantry players
I dunno, Panzerstorm just feels like a classic combined arms map. I do pretty well as infantry even on Panzerstorm. There's generally enough transport vehicles and cover to hoof it distant objectives.
cosmic stream
im saying aa tank
aa guns
they are like
paper
goes boom boom after 2 3 rockets
wet fossil
Right now, heavy tanks go boom after that many.
wet fossil
Now don't get me wrong, it's a hell of a lot of fun to delete Tigers with one pass.
soft juniper
I wish we have something like Verdun Height in BF1
brave coral
the VB’s rockets are broken
wet fossil
But damnit it's borked.
wet fossil
Obviously it's a bug, but it should bloody well be fixed already.
brave coral
like there’s a variant of the EBR in warzone which has a broken headshot multiplier and people are calling it pay to win
like
wet fossil
Right now the only reason it isn't a total scourge is the fact that the spec track needed to get rockets fucking sucks.
brave coral
not really
wet fossil
Half-repair and the insta repair is replaced by a crap nitro.
brave coral
since it’s a bug and it’s not being advertised
cosmic stream
it is
yea
but half the repairs
thats just
soo bad
dont get me started on that nitro too
wet fossil
I swear it's not even half.
brave coral
yeah vb rockets should be fixed but there’s not been a patch since they were discovered
wait
what is the spec? does it replace emergency repair or is it the manual repair change
wet fossil
Both.
Manual repair is halved on that track in favour of double speed on the wheel, and the emergency repair is now nitro.
Which does zero favours in any situation.
dapper bronze
Is the 15% repair upgrade ever worth it
What's the advantage over the regular repair
brave coral
the manual repair one is honestly pretty beneficial
since you get basically the same health back in the same time, but if it’s interrupted or it’s only a small amount it doesn’t make you a target for as long
@dapper bronze generally don’t pick that one unless it locks into a spec you want
cosmic stream
dont think so
the manual repair one is honestly pretty beneficial
@brave coral
brave coral
it just repairs broken parts
silver frigate
which gameone is good, other than conquest
brave coral
i can’t remember if it’s what i’m thinking of and people aren’t being very specific
cosmic stream
its sucks
soft juniper
Breakthrough is very one side
brave coral
if it’s the one i’m thinking of it’s generally a decent option
soft juniper
There is also operations but Dice drop it
brave coral
yeah Breakthrough is probably the best option
soft juniper
Squad Conquests and TDM don't even try them
brave coral
grand ops may as well not exist
prime pine
Never got so fucking tilted my god
brave coral
and that’s all the permanent modes currently
brave coral
nice
brave coral
that one’s a shiny one right
soft juniper
I remember trolling your team with C4
prime pine
I dont remember my many matches haha
soft juniper
You remember the 1 lvl dude on the other side killing you with exlposives
prime pine
I still dont remember
Dude. Ive been killed at least 30 thousand times i cant remember every single death haha
soft juniper
You play like 20 matches a days or something
vague silo
Wow nice paint jobs
soft juniper
The atomic red one is the best
brave coral
Prototype actually looks quite good
vague silo
I like the last one
brave coral
but yeah Hellcat is nice
i kind of wish i had some certain plane skins but they’re so damn expensive
like yeah, i would quite like he ju88c to look a bit nicer since the base colour isn’t great and i’m not a massive fan of either of the skins i’ve got
vague silo
I wish you could get cool tiger 1 skins there’s only 4
brave coral
but i’m not cashing out 20k CC for a plane skin
vague silo
Why waste 20K CC on skins
soft juniper
You must have 1M stocked up at this point
vague silo
Ne it’s your money
soft juniper
I never fly planes but spending my CC maxing out planes anyway
brave coral
nah i have like 30-40k ish
brave coral
i’ve never bought a vehicle skin (other than wrapped up in bundles)
but i have some nice ones from ToW
the Czech skin for the spitfire vb is very nice
vague silo
Imagine there was a app where you can make your own skins and loudouts for your vehicles
soft juniper
Wow you spend them all on skins or something
wet fossil
I'm around 125k.
vague silo
Whhhhhhhat
soft juniper
I have like 670k
wet fossil
Still have to think fairly hard on grabbing some skins though.
soft juniper
The funny thing is I never try to complete assignment
wet fossil
Some of those could put me down by a third.
soft juniper
I wasted 500 hours on this damn game since launch
wet fossil
I'm at about 355.
vague silo
👍
wet fossil
Still feels like forever.
soft juniper
There is someone wasted 1800 hours cough cough
wet fossil
Shit, I barely got over 1000 hours in TF2, and I played that damn near religiously.
Over the course of years.
Before they fucked it up with that matchmaking update...
vague silo
1000 hours
soft juniper
You Mr Mueller
soft juniper
You really waste 1000 hours on this game
tropic salmon
yo yall
vague silo
BIG RED ONE elite that would be cool
Or band of brothers
Or Kelly’s heroes or saving pvt ryan
eager shore
Even though I play Battlefield V regularly since, I still have "only" 500 hours. I have too many other games and hobbies to spend my time with.
vague silo
Like what?
eager shore
A whole backlog of games, airsoft, chilling with friends (after the pandemic is over).
vague silo
What I do all day Eat and play BFV
brave coral
for me bfv is mostly the only game i play, but i have school and stuff so i normally only play on friday saturday sunday
at the moment my hours are probably going up a fair bit faster
vague silo
How long do you play BFV for a day
prime pine
As i got no job this is the only game i can play
vague silo
Hey it’s a good game
eager shore
Lately maybe 2 or 3 times a week for about 3 hours at a time maybe.
brave coral
i mean it depend, but normally around 3-4 hours
vague silo
Normally I play 8 hour a day
brave coral
i’d say durin normal term time i probably play about 10 hours a week
eager shore
Since I have a lot less hours at work thanks to the pandemic, I'd be playing a lot more Battlefield V if I wasn't already busy playing Persona 5 Royal, heh.
eager shore
Good god 8 hours. I remember when I used to have the focus and time for that, heh.
I noticed as I'm getting older, I get tired playing video games after maybe 4 or 5 hours.
vague silo
Maybe I should make it less time and have Time with my family and go out for a bike ride
soft juniper
J-RPG don't take that long
vague silo
Who thinks the Last tiger start music is beautiful
The intro music
It sounds so epic
eager shore
I don't remember, but I do remember Last Tiger's music being good overall. DICE plz, release soundtrack.
vague silo
I found one on YouTube
eager shore
J-RPG don't take that long
That does not apply to Persona games. 😛
brave coral
i randomly rewatched the original Pacific trailer and god that still gives me chills
it was such a good trailer and the hype was real
eager shore
Firestorm's trailer is still my favorite. Gave me Bad Company vibes.
brave coral
tbf they did deliver on it pretty well
vague silo
https://youtu.be/JmlpHDeHjDE
2:11 is when the epic sound of the music comes
brave coral
yeah people rag on some bfv trailers for some reason but the only bad one is the reveal
eager shore
Agreed.
brave coral
launch wasn’t epic but it did the job
eager shore
It could have been better by prefacing the footage saying the things you can do in the trailer are actual features in the game.
brave coral
and Firestorm, Chapter 4, Pacific, Wake, all good
vague silo
Finally a WW2 game where you can play as the Germans in the campaign
brave coral
Underground
brave coral
i prefer the cinematic/gameplay mix trailer style to the ones like Solomon Islands
i personally felt the solomon trailer would have been better as an action trailer
prime pine
Just want to be done with this game
brave coral
lmao
prime pine
I love the soldiers reaction to when he ran into the chi ha
eager shore
Yeah, that was amazing.
brave coral
yeah that first section was good
prime pine
Practically encapsulates how we all feel when we run into a tank
He should have died though
quasi salmon
can anyone help me with my nickname is whildpepolove
quasi salmon
with the task
brave coral
which task
prime pine
We dont care about what they say as if we do, we can read it
quasi salmon
hit deadly by plane
prime pine
We care for a trailer showing whats to come
brave coral
oh
wet fossil
The reveal trailer was accurate in one thing: the nature of an actual match in progress.
brave coral
honestly i wouldn’t bother with the plane roadkill challenge
prime pine
Oh yeah
wet fossil
Especially the friendly tanks driving through your cover while you're using the damned thing
quasi salmon
Ok thanks
brave coral
but if you do want to, you want to try and slice the enemy not crash nose first
wet fossil
But not really the best thing to open with, you know?
brave coral
i think the action was fine
wet fossil
Should've done a callback to BF1.
Like how the opening of the campaign did it.
That was nice.
brave coral
people’s main complaint was the very bright, almost cartoonish colours, the prominent woman with a prosthetic arm who iirc sounds like a Tracer voice line and just generally the lack of coherence
and it didn’t do a good job of showing off the game imo
wet fossil
Unfortunately its still completely poisoned many people's views on the game.
brave coral
yeah
wet fossil
Christ alive, maybe we're better off without those guys.
brave coral
generally things that happen in the marketing run and the first few months can leave a stain even Dettol can’t remove
wet fossil
Infinite Warfare had the best COD campaign in ages and did some pretty neat things, but it had the bad luck to open up right next to BF1.
brave coral
battlefront 2 still gets people calling it pay to win (although that’s probably just the ‘EA sux’ crowd)
wet fossil
My problems with BF2 are of a gameplay nature.
brave coral
despite it literally never having been p2w in the main release
wet fossil
The whole thing's busted from the core.
brave coral
i think there were a few days of early access where you could buy crystals and that was it
eager shore
It was still loot box to win at launch, and is still play to win in the sense that you get significant upgrades the more you play.
wet fossil
Mobility? Awful, can't even vault. Which is a problem because more recent maps tend to have big shell craters that you can't just walk out of.
brave coral
obviously it has a certain gameplay style which i’m honestly not a massive fan of anymore, but it’s generally a pretty casual-oriented game
brave coral
hence why you have gimmicky heroes who are essentially just there to farm infantry
wet fossil
Goddamn jedi running about
brave coral
again, a lot of it comes down to it not really being designed for ‘serious gamers’
wet fossil
What does it take to just get a game dedicated to regular troops in Star Wars?
dapper bronze
....
wet fossil
Heroes always make it worse.
brave coral
it’s more for star wars fans to have a multiplayer game
dapper bronze
When your full hp armoured transport gets 1 shot
brave coral
but yeah i totally agree that star wars: battlefield would have a better gameplay experience than sw battlefront
wet fossil
And I just know that if they eventually get around to a BFIII they'll bugger it up somehow.
Completely forget about improvements they've made.
raw orbit
Battlefront looks cool until you play it and realise it's just about snowballing points with heroes
wet fossil
Literally all I want is Battlefield, you know?
raw orbit
Ye
wet fossil
Destructible terrain.
That's a big one.
I want to ram an AAT straight through a house's wall.
eager shore
That's what the original Pandemic Battlefronts were, after all. 3rd person Star Wars reskin of Battlefield.
brave coral
i made a concept waaay back for star wars battlefield
eager shore
Man, I was so excited when it was first announced that DICE would develop Battlefront.
It was the perfect developer for it. But then...yeah...
brave coral
tbf i think Disney has a certain amount of influence over the style of game that is produced and because it’s disney they want it to be as accessible as possible
brave coral
despite battlefield being pretty casual anyway
wet fossil
They actively make it harder to play.
brave coral
not if you’re a very casual player
wet fossil
Like, pretty much all of the game's balance issues are due to heroes.
Take them away and things get that much better.
brave coral
this was a common thing people would bring up against better movement - people who don’t know it would be at a disadvantage
wet fossil
What?
brave coral
idk it’s bs
brave coral
but that was what they said because they didn’t want to think about anything more than ‘wow look run and shoot at droids’
a long while back there were some no hero events and that actually made the game a lot more enjoyable for infantry mains
wet fossil
I suppose that one reason you can't climb is because like half the factions literally can't with their armour or droids.
But that's a silly argument because they can combat roll.
eager shore
Heroes locked away is the reason why I prefer the smaller game modes. But they're dead I think so there goes that.
wet fossil
Which annoys me because it interferes with my crouching
brave coral
i mean the only ones i’d say couldn’t/would have a hard time canonically would be clones in phase 1 armour
and that’s only bc the armour was uncomfortable for any semi extreme movement because the kaminoans didn’t fully understand how human dynamics worked
but from a gameplay perspective you can just overlook that
wet fossil
The battle droids simply shouldn't be able to do it.
But they do anyway.
So let me climb out of the goddamn craters DICE
Fucking hate Felucia
brave coral
honestly i haven’t played basically since bfv came out
eager shore
I only ever have fun with Battlefront II if I'm playing against AI or with co-op. But otherwise I don't think it's worth playing.
solid hinge
battlefront 2 has legitimately got worse balanced as it's gone on
the hero power creep is ridiculous
anakin was a mistake
brave coral
they started off better balanced than bf1 heroes but fairly quickly that changed
at least most of the bf1 ones couldn’t regenerate to full health by getting 3 kills
eager shore
Battlefield 1 is a balanced masterpiece compared to Battlefront II. 😛
wet fossil
I mean straight up Battlefield 1 is pretty damn well balanced.
eager shore
Oh wait, you're talking about Battlefront 1.
brave coral
i meant bf1 as in swbf1
wet fossil
Considering how much crap's being thrown about.
brave coral
not battlefield 1
wet fossil
Though that's probably rose tinted lenses for me because god knows some things annoyed the shit out of me.
brave coral
but swbf1 heroes although strong could at least be chipped down
and if they overextended and got surrounded they were dead
eager shore
I mean straight up Battlefield 1 is pretty damn well balanced.
I meant that sarcastically because Battlefield 1's balance is terrible at its core. Starting with Conquest rules and Elite Classes.
solid hinge
swbf2 original heroes weren't ridiculous, just had some bad design choices on some of them and bad star cards
now they're all WAY stronger than average units plus they get a shitload of health back per kill
entire matches are decided by who has the better hero players
brave coral
whereas in swbf2 if you get surrounded as the green ketamine rat you just jump about a bit and slice some ankles then run away with full health
prime pine
Ketamine? 👀
prime pine
Elite classes were a fucking mistake
solid hinge
it's okay cause they go pewpew
strong parrot
OD...mod advocating overdose
brave coral
i liked the reinforcement units in swbf2 as a special unit but now there’s too many imo
they felt like a better implementation of elites since they were strong but also had weaknesses
like the enforcers were generally fairly tanky with good dps but if you got a little bit of concentrated fire that 400 health is gone quick
solid hinge
odya
the reinforcements also got power creeped
instead of adding things to the basic 4 classes they added a bunch of ludicrously overpowered heroes, had to buff every other hero in the game to match them, nerfed multiple basic infantry weapons, buffed half the reinforcment classes and added new overpowered reinforcements again
i still cant believe they added new guns
after two years..
brave coral
like 2 and a half years later add some weapons to the soldier classes
a new weapon to each one
and then don’t say anything about more
dapper bronze
Btw are APCR rounds better than HEAT-T rounds Vs tanks?
I assume so since they don't have splash damage like the heat t rounds
solid hinge
for the tiger?
HEAT-T has the highest damage, but noticeably lower velocity
plus requires taking a poopy spec tree
muted pier
lmao swbf’s infantry combat hasn’t recieved a single content update since launch, barring the whopping four blasters a month ago
which are rushed ports
solid hinge
APCR gets to be part of the 33% extra max ammo spec tree which gives the tiger way more shells
i haven't heard good things about the new blasters
muted pier
the way they implemented blasters is atrocious either way
I get that cross faction guns can be a distraction in battlefield, but in battlefront it’s so much worse
you have droids running around with blasters that wouldn’t have been made for 50 years
most of the guns are from the OT anyway and it looks dumb as hell
out of all the features that they’d removed to distance themselves from battlefield, they decided to keep weapon selections and implemented it in the worst way possible
brave garnet
For what
twilit moon
@dapper bronze APCR are more direct dmg hits, which would be ideal to hit directly from the rear or front or even sweeter spot is the engine / back of a tank.
With a HEAT-T round you can hit it nearby, it will explode and blow up parts and do mediocore dmg , if you hit directly, the shell will do impact of like 5-15 or even 20 at best scenario and blow up engines , tracks or even turret but it has really bad drop cuz u need to use it with howitzer cannon in order to deal dmg. For tiger i would pick APCR since it's basic AP shell is at the same category with speed and damage so it's like having 6 extra "good" shells to battle with
if u are not that type of blasting from distance, you can always go with mine clearing launchers ( UK tanks) for more personal approach into your enemies
brave garnet
APCR has less drop, the shell's are lightweight
twilit moon
YEAH
brave garnet
HEAT doesn't need much speed to do its job since its a chemical warhead
twilit moon
but it's so sloopy that if u miss ur dead meat
but a good youtuber explaining stuff and a good tanker is @earnest wharf , you can always check out his channel for all the information on what is good to use and why
brave garnet
By chemical I mean the explosive filler used, when the filler explodes it pushes a piece of copper or plastic at hypersonic speeds towards the enemy tank
twilit moon
ikr
brave garnet
Oh dude, I love tanks
twilit moon
i can tell
brave garnet
Been learning a lot about tanks and tank munitions for about 5-6 years now
twilit moon
since the nerf on angle damages i've lost interest in tanks in bfv, i still play it, but i lost interest in mastering it further more
brave garnet
There's like 600 g of filler in a Tiger's HEAT round
twilit moon
even back in bf3 it had no ricochet value but it still mattered how to position your tank
fossil heron
What was the budget for bf4 and what was the budget for bfv? I wonder if thats the difference in quality
@prime pine planefag because you were smoking the shit outta em
graceful rapids
yall know that when you go prone on iwo jima's beach you still get mud on you? never noticed until now.
wet fossil
Agh come on where the hell's that one Battlefield Friends episode where he just looks over and sees Colonel 100 stabbing the fuck out of a jet
Stupid machinima killing itself
twilit moon
It is not about budget imo @fossil heron , but rather the time and work on the project of Battlefield V, BF4 was shitty at start, it was unplayable. BFV was playable but with missing a lot of content, BF4 got patched in 9 months to be okay again, bfv still had some issues with bugs but they were getting fixed somewhat fast rather BF4. But overall both games are good. BFV could be on the top now, but it's not, its like bf4 seems more polished game rn rather BFV
As WoW reference would fit here from WotLK : "No king (Battlefield) rules forever my son"
fossil heron
@twilit moon bf4 had 12 additional maps added post launch by this stage in its life. Time+work=budget
twilit moon
still different times back then and now
i mean different years*
a lot of people in BFV left the company...
fossil heron
Its sad
twilit moon
idd
soft juniper
BF never rules
fossil heron
Dice was great until they shifted to a dumbed down version of itself
I.e battlefront
soft juniper
Battlefront 2 beside from dumb lootbox and microtransactions is very good
twilit moon
AHAHAHAHA
fossil heron
Battlefront is good
soft juniper
It make you feel like Star Wars
soft juniper
Battlefront 1 on the other hand is pure Garbage
fossil heron
Battlefront 2 is slightly more polished garbage
soft juniper
BF2 is actually pretty good at launch beside from campaign and microtransactions
fossil heron
EA wanted to milk starwars and dropped it on dice
viral moon
yeah, its kinda sad how games have just declined like that
soft juniper
It have 8 launch maps ranged from Republic time to Imperial time
fossil heron
Leta milk and kill a staple brand so no one ever thinks aboit it again
soft juniper
Even space battle
fossil heron
But dumbed down mechanics
soft juniper
The problem at launch is fixed 2 months after
What dumb down machenic?
SW BF1 is garbage because of stupid point system, limited heroes and villians option
and 4 launch maps 2 season pass maps
For a 60 dollars game
fossil heron
The maps are smaller. The classes are simplified and more linear. Its not to battlefield standards but EA didnt care and wanted to milk it dry
soft juniper
Maps in SW BF1 is a little bigger but they cut them into several maps
So we end up got 55 maps due to the weather conditions and parts of maps combination
SW BF2 maps is less linear
fossil heron
Less linear than battlefront one but more linear than any battlefield title before it.
twilit moon
nonetheless unless the game is not playable at all i will continue to play battlefield titles. thankfull i grew up with mostly Battlefield titles for FPS games
fossil heron
You can tell by playing it that it got less attention from DICE than whats expected from them
fossil heron
Battlefield is stll better than most fps even in its current state but its jusy Scratching that itch. Not blowing us out of the water like previous titles.
Did you play the original battlefronts?
soft juniper
Yea and the new game is exactly that experience
fossil heron
nova tapir
#makebfvgreatforthefirsttime
brave coral
i don’t think most other battlefields have brought anything massively gamechanging
fossil heron
You should go back and play battlefront 2 (og) again
brave coral
like bc2, yeah
nova tapir
It sad that I get more battlefield moments in call of duty br ....
What has this world turned into
brave coral
bf3 was a pretty major revolutionary thing
fossil heron
Bf3 was a massive gamechanger
And bf4 was a polish on top of that
Stop making sequels if you're not going to improve on the previous title
shy badger
It's not as if they're not trying to make good games
surreal obsidian
Recon; whats difference between Arisaka 99 and gehwer 95?
fossil heron
They released bfv half knowing what was going to happen
fossil heron
I actually liked that
brave coral
i think they knew it wasn’t going to be perfect but when has a battlefield game had a perfect launch really
fossil heron
Never. Youre absolutely right
But even ignoring that
What content has been added since launch?
brave coral
and despite what people say, it’s still a good and pretty polished game compared to a lot out there
brave coral
like 7 new large multiplayer maps + 2 small ones, Firestorm, something like 30 guns, two new factions, a handful of new vehicles
twilit moon
but they have implemented a new system "live service" it's totally diff than premium we had back then
brave coral
and unlike a premium model, all of those maps are still playable for everyone and will be for as long as there are bfv servers
twilit moon
i believe bf6 will have live service, but more improved
surreal obsidian
Recon; whats difference between Arisaka 99 and gehwer 95?
brave coral
bfv has not had the most amazing live service but it’s diol a better model
@fossil heron what are you on
twilit moon
@surreal obsidian https://sym.gg/
brave coral
there’s over 60 primaries, more than any other bf aside from bf4
twilit moon
bfv hasn't stopped making content tho
brave coral
and there were a good amount of bf4 guns that were almost purely reskins
fossil heron
@twilit moon they drip it in slowly
surreal obsidian
@surreal obsidian https://sym.gg/
@twilit moon dont het that site
fossil heron
Cosmetics aren't content
shy badger
Why are cosmetics not content?
twilit moon
whatever floats your boat
brave coral
can’t be that slow if it already has the second most guns in the franchise and isn’t even close to done with them
fossil heron
What do cosmetics add to the gameplay?
shy badger
Kinda knew you would say it
brave coral
@shy badger because that negates his point
surreal obsidian
Why are cosmetics not content?
@shy badger cosmetics arent content
brave coral
they’re still things that are added to the game and have a large interest
fossil heron
I like cosmetics
shy badger
Its fun to customize your character and vehicles
brave coral
again. not a reason
surreal obsidian
Yes cosmetics are fun but dont bring much
twilit moon
since it adds to the whole gameplay like camouflage or however u use it is labeled as content
or the feels
brave coral
still doesn’t mean that it changes the definition of additional content, besides, you were the one who brought them up
shy badger
Cosmetics also take a lot of time to make, it's unfair to label them as 'not contnet'
twilit moon
In publishing, art, and communication, content is the information and experiences that are directed toward an end-user or audience.
fossil heron
Ok. Would you trade maps and weapons for cosmetics?
brave coral
but realistically, by the end of its support cycle bfv is likely to have the most consistently playable maps since they’re added to the main rotation for everyone
no. but id like to have them side by side, which is what we have
twilit moon
you can't compare those 2 , they are in the same category of content but in different purpose
you need both
fossil heron
Bf4 had 30 maps by this time in its life cycle
shy badger
Depends how many maps and weapons there are
brave coral
it’s not a ‘one or the other’ situation
twilit moon
Yeah 30 maps and nobody plays them all
brave coral
exactly my point @twilit moon
twilit moon
you see only lockers, and most open battlefield maps
brave coral
30, but basically the only ones you’ll see are the base game maps because not everyone has/plays the dlcs
twilit moon
cough naval fights
soft juniper
@brave coral 7?
Wow that more than I expected
twilit moon
you only play that cuz it's in rotations
fossil heron
That's an interesting argument
soft juniper
Panzer counted?
fossil heron
People played the shit out of those maps when they dropped
soft juniper
2 Greek maps
4 Pacific maps
fossil heron
Those map packs also added a bunch of weapons and vehicles
brave coral
panzerstorm, mercury, al sundan, marita, underground, iwo jima, pacific storm, wake island, solomon islands
9 actually
soft juniper
Ah Al Sundan
twilit moon
al sundan - Africa , Underground - France / Germany
soft juniper
Almost forget its existence
brave coral
it’s played more often than a lot of dlc maps tbh
soft juniper
That map was ported from SP
twilit moon
nonetheless it's still a map
scenic beacon
I don’t mind it
brave coral
still doesn’t negate the fact that it’s a map added to multiplayer
twilit moon
It has everything, vehicle hide and seek / gameplay/ open space for planes to dogfight and infantry to play around the town areas / ambush the road
fossil heron
How many full scale maps have been added since launch in bfv?
soft juniper
We got Provence and another map
brave coral
and i could log on right now and find a server on any of them
soft juniper
Just can't remember
twilit moon
apart from marita and underground, it's 7
brave coral
plus Provence and Lofoten for smaller modes
soft juniper
Oh yea Lofoten Islands
Never touch those
twilit moon
those 2 would be so much epic for vehicle warfare
shy badger
And halvoy for the bigger one :3
fossil heron
Ah yes. 7 years later its hard to find a sever with every mapnin bf4. Bf5 is clearly better
soft juniper
They're a little bigger than most COD map
brave coral
stop back-pedalling on your point because you see proven wrong
sonic rampart
Provence and lofoten are Nice
twilit moon
you can't compare what is better rn
soft juniper
Thats why Chapter 3 is the worst DLC ever in BF history
sonic rampart
Lofoten even has 2 diff islands
fossil heron
@twilit moon you can tho. Side by side in its life cycle there was almost double the content in bf4
sonic rampart
And couldve been used for the bigger modes maybe
soft juniper
But its not a BF map
brave coral
which only about 10% of the playerbase could actually play at the time
soft juniper
I don't see the point to add small map to BF
Most players gonna play conquest anyway
Or other large scale mode
brave coral
bad company 2 had exclusive smaller maps for Rush and such
fossil heron
@brave coral 10% is a wild assumption
sonic rampart
Smh make Rush a base game mode
twilit moon
ok so let me get this straight
@soft juniper chapter 3 was not that bad actually
@fossil heron BF4 has different system and it was a copy paste from BF3
BFV tries something new live service, different / new mechanics in game and so on
it is natural that it doesn't work out on first try since they didn't plan it well
Different years, people might lost interest in the battlefield franchise and move on to other companies like fortnite or idk what else who knows
brave coral
pretty sure that’s the published number for the amount of players who had premium
twilit moon
every game mode in bfv has good amount of players
soft juniper
Beside you can cut the big map to make room for those small modes
brave coral
or for a different bf game
sonic rampart
Joins with premium
fossil heron
Live service is nice for battlefield. They didn't do it wrong they just gave up
sonic rampart
Kicks random not premium player
soft juniper
Yes and no
twilit moon
gave up? huh?
sonic rampart
brave coral
idk @twilit moon
brave coral
starfish normally says this sort of stuff with no backing
soft juniper
But at least they're free
brave coral
apparently the next patch is the last one bc he has insider info
fossil heron
No backing? They drip feed content and 99% of it is cosmetic
twilit moon
it's like the other guy from yesterday trying to prove the immersion thing at us or justify it
soft juniper
But you gotta remember that BF1 also have free maps come with DLCs
2 maps each DLC is totally free
shy badger
Starfish have you actually looked at the amount of guns and vehicles Dice released post launch?
twilit moon
i lasted playing 100 hours before giving up
eager shore
They drip feed content and 99% of it is cosmetic
So 9 free maps and a crapton of guns is 1% of content.
fossil heron
Bf1 is more comparable to battlefront
brave coral
no because he knows it would prove him wrong @shy badger
brave coral
i’ve said several times bfv has the second most guns in any bf second only to bf4 but bfv has no guns still
dense bone
@fossil heron bf1 was all paid for dlc..
soft juniper
They gonna add shit noone asking for so be ready
dense bone
are you comparing paid for dlc to free?
shy badger
I wonder how many vehicles bfv has compared to other frostbite games
fossil heron
9 full scale maps?
soft juniper
But some maps are free
twilit moon
bf1 was the definition of hill camping and shotgun noobs everywhere in trenches
Vehicle warfare didn't exist at all
Let's talk about the AA camping the whole map even the enemies airspace
soft juniper
In that DLC release
soft juniper
2 maps each DLC
twilit moon
the only good thing about bf1 was the trailers, but still meh
soft juniper
So its still better than BF5 live service
brave coral
@fossil heron you literally asked 10 mins ago and i posted a list
dense bone
because you paid?
dense bone
i would hope paid for content is better
fossil heron
Sorry im responding while getting ready for work
twilit moon
BF1 in general was a waste of money
sonic rampart
Paid full price for it
brave coral
panzerstorm, mercury, al sundan, marita, underground, iwo jima, pacific storm, wake island, solomon islands
dense bone
i got it for 10 bucks for everything, played less bf1 than bfv beta
sonic rampart
Waited with BfV for 1 week and it paid off
sonic rampart
BfV > bf1
brave coral
so yes. 9 + 2 small mode exclusives
twilit moon
let's not forget how "balanced" were behemoths in game before leaving a server cuz they spawncamp you
dense bone
bfv base games maps?
languid sinew
mecury panzerstorm and alsundan are some of the worst map I ever saw in a bf game
dense bone
outside of fjell and gamada i like the base game maps
sonic rampart
Mercury is Nice
languid sinew
alsundan which such a big waste of space in the middle of the map
sonic rampart
The other 2 I agree
twilit moon
ROFL
dense bone
i like mercury too
dense bone
bleh, i think panzer is my most hated
fossil heron
I enjoy mercury. Panzerstorm is only fun in a vehicle
sonic rampart
I started hating it
languid sinew
servers die every time panzerstorm is the next map
twilit moon
Panzerstorm and Al sudan is the paradise for tank warfare
sonic rampart
Especially after some ToW challenges
dense bone
and i got 2 minutes in tanks
sonic rampart
I like the night version
fossil heron
They need to make those armor superiority maps
twilit moon
@languid sinew so that is all your reasons why u hate those maps? Wow...im not even impressed about ur commen
languid sinew
I dont care if you are impressed or not
shy badger
I would like to have the night version of panzerstorm in normal rotation
fossil heron
Night versions of all the maps plz
sonic rampart
Its better than the normal