#battlefield-legacy-titles
prime pine
prime pine
Watch the tweet
amber pine
I kill with the zero
prime pine
I flew
zenith gyro
Damn that supporter
somber current
Hey guys I am recruiting for the 116th ghost Unit on Battlefield 4. If you’ve ever been interested in having a milsim/tactical Game play with a full team we are the team to join. Please message me if you are interested and we will get you in ASAP
eager shore
Might want to put what platform you're referring to on your profile, bud.
Sadly milsim Platoons don't exist for PS4 as far as I know.
solid hinge
Are you even allowed to promote platoons on this discord?
prime pine
Everytime there's xgn im reminded of xgncaptainstriker
What a fucking loon that guy is
soft juniper
What mf do to piss you 
solid hinge
Yeah you can't promote your platoon
prime pine
Mf?
amber pine
More farts
prime pine
Noot noot!
shy badger
Noot noot :D
soft juniper
Loot loot
solid hinge
I remember watching pingu when I was like 4
solid hinge
Rn?
zenith gyro
Later
solid hinge
Maby
zenith gyro
Ok
somber current
Oof welp it was Nice knowing you guys
eager shore
My Platoon did "casual tryhard" teamwork stuff in Battlefield 1. So much fun. Sadly most of them are busy with other games now so I mostly play with just one or two of my Platoon members lately.
solid hinge
I only used platoons for emblems but bfv had to be boring cause people have strange emblems
somber current
I do think PS4 has them tho
eager shore
We didn't do milsim per-say, but we did try to communicate as much as possible, which felt almost like milsim.
prime pine
Honestly i feel you unit
somber current
Oh dam
prime pine
My boys in fL and I do this all the time when we play
solid hinge
Arma milsim
zenith gyro
Goodbye guys
solid hinge
eager shore
Right?!
solid hinge
Byebye slav
eager shore
I have this one friend I play with, and we barely talk because we know exactly what each other is planning.
solid hinge
Great minds thinks alike
prime pine
Those moments when you're both in a tank, You have a casual conversation, A plane flies over, both goes silent and one shoots it outta the sky. 
They kinda make both parties laugh
Ah yeah!
But i remember. After outpost we were on the ground. We were mucking around, bantering and then when a guy fired a launcher we instantly locked on to the guy. Funny how its like that huh.
Battlefield is a funny game.
amber pine
I’ve forgotten outpost
solid hinge
Seriously what was outpost
solid hinge
Was outpost the one with build able towers
eager shore
Yes.
prime pine
Yeah
amber pine
Outpost is building a tower
solid hinge
I avoided that gamemode
prime pine
You build towers which scores your teams points
eager shore
Wannabe Fortnite.
solid hinge
Save the world
prime pine
You can do two roles; Build towers or destroy towers
Both had MASSIVE influence
A tanker can shell a tower from a long distance away. Denying points.
Practically milk the bastards
solid hinge
Dice made bad choice with game modes that only happen for a week
amber pine
Rather have a 1 v 1 game mode
prime pine
Recons were arguably the best support
Due to beacons
Cause the towers couldnt be spawned on
This made squad wipes even more valuable
And idiocy punished even more
solid hinge
I want frontlines permanent
prime pine
If you're some random hiding in some fucking random corner you're begging to have your shit beaten out of you
solid hinge
I never got to play it in bfv
amber pine
We need a map that feels huge but not like a wasteland
amber pine
Stalingrad would be a good one
eager shore
Dice made bad choice with game modes that only happen for a week
On one hand, artificial scarecity means the game mode is populated when it's in rotation. Frontline isn't as popular as the community thinks it is, based on what I see on Battlefield 1. Frontline servers are dead.
On the other hand, yeah being able to have access to them all the time would be nice. It's in Community Games, but that itself isn't popular enough.
solid hinge
The fact they only appear for a week means noobs have no idea what to do which pretty much ruins the game modes
Like russh
Rush
prime pine
Would be nice if outpost was here for two weeks 
amber pine
Nearly all the maps feel plain
wet fossil
Get a TOW objective to shoot down flares, and then every enemy team I've gone up against has apparently completely forgotten that they carry the damn things.
Usually it's like shooting clay pigeons.
But over the last few matches I haven't so much as heard an enemy flare going up.
Plenty of friendly ones being sent up and surviving, so it's not just everyone being on the lookout for them.
haughty pawn
are flares somehow broken?i only get tiny circles,no matter at what angle i shoot them
brave coral
@haughty pawn you are shooting them into the air right?
haughty pawn
yeah lol
compact oxide
Did they nerf them again 😦
brave coral
how big is a ‘tiny circle’
eager shore
Here is what i can advise! Dont play passively! Get hyped up on coke and you'll notice a change!
Replying to Waygyamba's earlier message: It's said that how well you play in Battlefield is about 30% based on confidence. And while the percentage is probably made up, I still agree. Doubting yourself in sticky situations makes you hesitate and thus more likely to die.
haughty pawn
dunno,maybe i'm doing something wrong,just asking,but i've never had those probs before
tiny like useless small
1/10 of normal size
eager shore
They are fine when I use them on PS4.
brave coral
i’ve never had an issue with flares and it would be odd for an issue to surface now, several weeks after the most recent patch
brave coral
wait are you playing rn?
haughty pawn
nope
brave coral
oh
brave coral
weird
haughty pawn
yeah
brave coral
wait just to check as well
you’re not comparing to vehicle flares?
if you don’t play recon much
brave coral
bc vehicle flares have a larger radius
haughty pawn
i never play sniper,only trench/flare
brave coral
i don’t think the combat role has an effect on the flare gun
haughty pawn
don't think so either
prime pine
I will admit
The flares hitbox has been rather weird
But they're still easy as the same also
Also yeah. As my mind accelerates i can sorta think faster; my mentality is strike hard and fast.
brave coral
plane flares definitely need changing lmao
haughty pawn
plane flares are cancer
prime pine
They're just annoying.
brave coral
in breakthrough you can just spot the entire sector in like three passes
haughty pawn
you need like a min 3x scope to spot them
eager shore
You get into "the zone", this state of calmness and focus when you're doing good.
haughty pawn
and hard to shoot down
amber pine
They’re mine advantage then
brave coral
mostly they last too long and can be deployed too high up
eager shore
I get like that when I'm reviving friendlies left and right, anyway.
brave coral
make them drop to a certain altitude before the parachute activates
prime pine
But i also keep reserved
amber pine
You just told me something useful
vague silo
silk obsidian
i notice the screen gets black when you fall from high altitude without parachute
eager shore
Does it? If it does, it probably simulates your character going unconscious from the G forces or something like that.
dapper bronze
Hmm
BF5 works fine except I can't move properly
When I sprint it's like half the speed of normal sprinting
silk obsidian
@eager shore yeah it does
@dapper bronze sometimes yes
ive noticed its related to ping
prime pine
It is
prime pine
When your connection is slightly below what it should be the game slows you down for whatever reason
silk obsidian
but the movement issue wasnt there before
prime pine
Its an issue now because fuck who knows.
Are your connections sorta quickly shifting in and out in your games?
dapper bronze
Erm idk I'll test it
It was my first mp game
My connection to games is fine normally
eager shore
I think that's called rubberbanding. Happened to me all the time in previous Battlefield games. Never happens to me in V.
dapper bronze
Huh I'll look it up on Google see what I can find
Ty for help all
It's not like rubberbanding ive experienced in other games but maybe battlefield is different
eager shore
You know, it really could be based on your ping, at least on PS4. I probably rubberbanded a lot in previous Battlefield games because my router was crap. I got a gaming router around the time I played Battlefield 1 and I never seemed to experience rubberbanding since then.
eager shore
I don't think Apex's servers require the complexitiy that Battlefield's does. But of course, for all we know rubberbanding could be from anything.
icy sluice
There's a lot of stuff that goes on with Battlefield, vehicles, planes, etc.
eager shore
Assigment tracking, destruction physics, etc.
icy sluice
Me using a katana, using a liberator to shoot down a flare a plane put down 900m in the sky
Also, not sure if it's a glitch but if the liberator gets resupplied, it can now fit 50 rounds inside.
prime pine
Jäger bar anyone? : O
icy sluice
Not game breaking or anything because who the fuck ever runs out of ammo using the liberator?
icy sluice
Flew where?
prime pine
Ill show
icy sluice
lul
prime pine
icy sluice
yeet
prime pine
Also i got 10K with the zero and bren... Now i gotta do the bar : D
I tried the lewith gun but i cant play with it. Its a weird mix.
It jumps around too much in comparison to the Bren
eager shore
The Lewdis Gun. 
https://en.gfwiki.com/images/2/2b/Lewis.png
icy sluice
Katana is my fourth place in most kills
prime pine
Dodis
icy sluice
icy sluice
I use a lot of different guns
eager shore
I know some hardcore gun nuts who play Girls Frontline. Because gun waifus.
icy sluice
Last night I took someone's tags like 7-9 times on Pacific Storm and he had the Model 37
He did not kill me a single time
idle breach
prime pine
I made some one rage quit
With the bayonet charge
I would feel sorry for the guy if he wasnt such a spineless coward
icy sluice
amber pine
Is a brutal war
eager shore
With the right angle you can make a pretty solemn screenshot of downed players for #screenshots-and-clips.
amber pine
They have flashbacks of screaming woman in the battlefield
icy sluice
I'm playing as Erica in this image
amber pine
Heroic woman saving terrified man
idle breach
ww2 helmets all look so hard to pile and stock
amber pine
Like stacking them?
prime pine
Is it sad that i have the least amount of received revives out of the clans in Oceania?
I got 8k while the most has 23K
eager shore
Those clans are tryhards. Forget about them.
eager shore
😛
I really don't care for my stats. No one will care about them once we move on to the next Battlefield game.
eager shore
That is also true.
clever cedar
How the hell did they make this game so shit -.-
eager shore
What I'm trying to say though is that don't worry if your revives are low compared to other Platoons. 👍
prime pine
Oh no its like... I like revives but im not concerned about them
Cause i have gotten so far with that many revives like???
last dawn
Anyone know how to bind exit vehicle to something else than enter vehicle?
prime pine
You on pc?
sturdy gulch
Right
last dawn
Yes
last dawn
BF4 btw
sturdy gulch
@royal fox tried to rape me please report him. I am a girl gamer and he sent sexually explicit images to me. Ps his willy is not even big
novel blaze
pc players get tbe advantage in the contest
cloud storm
Wut
brave coral
grow up
brave garnet
Ok
brave coral
if there’s actually something going on, report to mods
brave garnet
Use ModMail tho
sturdy gulch
@brave coral shut up you twat I am in danger here and you being an idiot
Stupid nonce
eager shore
Then use modmail.
brave garnet
@sturdy gulchcalm your tits
sturdy gulch
@brave garnet so sorry
eager shore
You'll get their attention easier.
sturdy gulch
Ok
eager shore
Just gotta ignore or "play along" with trolls, DrX.
prime pine
@compact oxide @solid hinge or something... Shits going on here
brave garnet
Calm your tits @sturdy gulch
prime pine
Hey dr what weapon do you main
sturdy gulch
@brave garnet ok I don't know how
eager shore
Don't worry. Mods will be here to help you, Hardkore.
brave garnet
😦
eager shore
❤️
prime pine
Hey unit what weapon do you main?
brave garnet
Lol, you might get muted if you keep insulting people
sturdy gulch
@eager shore sorry mate don't swing that way
brave garnet
If you keep doing it its a ban
wet fossil
Guess sliding is the new dolphin diving...
eager shore
Depends (TM)
brave garnet
M4 carbine or M4 Sherman
prime pine
Hey tano!
wet fossil
Bloody hard to stop a perpetual slider wielding a Suomi, that's for sure.
sturdy gulch
@brave garnet carbine
prime pine
Was nice seeing you earlier
sturdy gulch
@wet fossil yhyh I get you man
eager shore
On Medic my "tryhard" gun is my bebbe ZK. ❤️
wet fossil
Not many servers to choose from.
sturdy gulch
@eager shore yhyhyh that's cool man
eager shore
Lasergun.
brave coral
@prime pine honestly i wouldn’t say i have a main weapon bc i use basically whichever
sturdy gulch
@brave coral yhyhyhyhyh I agree man. But I prefer the M4 carbine its way better
eager shore
onestly i wouldn’t say i have a main weapon bc i use basically whichever
Same here. I just use whatever's appropriate, but if I had to choose for Medic it'd be ZK.
brave coral
M4 carbine?
eager shore
For Support my tryhard gun is either Bren or BAR.
solid hinge
just keep it cool in here
sturdy gulch
@solid hinge yes sir
eager shore
Bren is also a laser and BAR is adaptable and fun to use.
sturdy gulch
@solid hinge celestial vega
eager shore
Assault is my bebbe Gewehr 43 because I've loved that gun since its influence in Valkyria Chronicles.
eager shore
And Sturmgewehr 44 as my AR. Sorry not sorry, heh.
wet fossil
I find myself using the Garand a lot.
prime pine
You use what you like
wet fossil
Very versatile little number.
wet fossil
I love me a bayonet
eager shore
Oh yeah, Gewehr 43 with the detachable magazine. Yum.
wet fossil
But the heavy load is almost mandatory.
eager shore
Delicious reload sound. 🤤
eager shore
That crunch sound or whatever whenever you change the mag in the Gewehr 43 makes me nut.
eager shore
Sturmgewehr 44 just sounds powerful.
And fairly easy for me to control, even with 3x scope.
prime pine
For me the weapon thats currently the most usable is the BAR
bar is good
Bar is nasty
Brbrbrbrbt
eager shore
Chocolate BAR is delicious.
wet fossil
I feel like the BF1 weapons felt more chunky
wet fossil
Model 1900 was the real deal
prime pine
YES
wet fossil
God I love that thing.
prime pine
That was such a cool shotgun
wet fossil
Slug rounds especially.
prime pine
Slugs was what you'd most likely get before buckshot
wet fossil
When I first got it, I was humming Doom's E1M1 theme as I ran around merrily wrecking Austrians.
Only two rounds? No problem.
prime pine
You do know the sawed off has the doom reload?
wet fossil
Only the sawed off, though.
prime pine
Yeah. Sadly not the full variant
On bfh the double barrel was NASTY
Got it gold! So thats good
prime pine
It does
prime pine
Is it weird that i cant use the model 10 over the model 1900?
wet fossil
And I still can't fire both rounds and swap to the third barrel.
prime pine
Like i literally cant even get a kill with the model 10
prime pine
On bfh you could fire both barrels at once
It would improve consistency and reliability at closer range
So in a sense you could sorta use both interchangably viably
sturdy gulch
@prime pine yhyhyhyh really man? I kinda agree but like uno
eager shore
My favorite Recon weapons is hard to choose because I suck at Recon, lel.
I guess the ZH-29. But mostly because it has a detachable magazine reload.
But if I were to talk strictly about reload animations, then definitely Uncle Krag.
wet fossil
I've been doing all sorts of damage with the 1906.
Give that thing a 2x scope and it'll tear pretty much every target a new one.
Useful at all ranges.
brave coral
Model 8 is very nice with iron sights
eager shore
Who needs a Tankgewehr when we've got Pumblechook.
prime pine
I read that wrong
wet fossil
Model 8's okay, but its per-bullet firepower is a little lacking compared to other SLRs
Doesn't really have any real advantages to speak of.
brave coral
very fast reload
prime pine
Its got the fire rate
wet fossil
Reload's really not any better than the others.
brave coral
it’s not a great sniper, but up close it’s brutal
prime pine
With irons you get stripper clips but rsc has consistency plus scope
brave coral
especially with the trigger job, the model 8 has a very fast ttk within it’s two shot range
wet fossil
I do miss quite a few semi autos from BF1.
Medic had something for every situation.
Apart from armour, obviously.
Light AT grenades were helpful for that.
brave coral
i’d say the Assault semi autos sort of have that now
wet fossil
Hell, we need Light AT. Gammon Bombs?
brave coral
honestly if you like the carbines do does medic now
yeah Medic and Recon need some light AT/anti fortification ability
wet fossil
You know I don't actually know what exactly a Gammon grenade does.
I know it has some use against armour.
But it doesn't seem to be a shaped charge.
prime pine
Basically
Its like a customisable grenade
You could put a bit in for infantry
And if you wanted to fuck armour up. You fill it to the brim with powder
brave coral
i find it kinda dumb still that Medic is given the sort of very aggressive weapons, smoke, etc but can’t get rid of fortifications
wet fossil
Supports should get wirecutters.
brave coral
i think all classes should have a gadget that enables that
wet fossil
And the ability to remove tank traps.
Especially those goddamn tank traps.
Explosives can damage them, but I've never seen them actually be outright destroyed.
brave coral
the metal tank traps are normally fairly easy to get around in a tank tbf
prime pine
I honestly want the repair tool for support to always be active.... And then we can burn infantry with the repair tool
brave coral
just drive through a wall
prime pine
But it can be also used to burn fortifications down
wet fossil
Can we at least beat people to death with the hammer?
brave coral
the dragons teeth are a bit harder, but two shots seems to damage them enough to drive over them in a sherman
prime pine
Dragons teeth are rather annoying
shy badger
I don't think I've.been really blocked by dragons teeth
shy badger
Theres always a way aeound them
Hey
Its so fucking boring here bods :(((
I might replay doom
shy badger
Yea
wet fossil
Christ honestly the easiest difficulty is hard enough for me.
prime pine
Honestly. When i get to rank 500 imma play everything else haha
wet fossil
I'm the goddamn Doomguy, I ain't so easy to kill.
shy badger
You're fighting demons tbh
wet fossil
Why the fuck would anybody do that for the first playthrough.
brave coral
tbh the only place dragons teeth really have much effect is moving into the second sector on Iwo if they’re built all along the beach
shy badger
I did UV too
wet fossil
Doomguy survived in Hell for fuck knows how long with nothing but a blade and an obscene amount of hatred.
shy badger
It was a fun challenge, though I'm already prettt experienced with aiming
wet fossil
I ain't going down to some Imp.
shy badger
So it wasn't as hard as for some
prime pine
Anything can kill you
Thats how it works
They all work with each other to put you down.
wet fossil
If it's going to kill me, it's gonna have to earn that shit. Buffed damage values are just silly.
prime pine
In original doom zombies were a threat
brave coral
i like how the demons fight each other until they aggro on you
wet fossil
Didn't get glory kills back then.
prime pine
E.g CHAINGUNNERS
brave coral
like there’s bits where you don’t go straight into combat, you can look over the next level until you jump down, and they’ll just hit each other a bit
wet fossil
They do it every single time.
prime pine
Your main priority is to take them down before anyone else. As chaingunners mainly can really hurt you
wet fossil
It's ridiculous.
prime pine
In original doom monsters could kill themselves
brave coral
i’ll fight anyone! i’ll fight myself!
prime pine
If they blew up a barrel and survived, They would hurt themselves as they were the main cause of damage.
brave coral
lmao
prime pine
Thats how infighting works as it traces back to who did it
But if its a monster of the same type where they are normally immune to each other, they'll take themselves out
wet fossil
Honestly, I feel like the easy difficulty on the new Doom games is actually very well balanced.
Because no matter what, it's not going to be a breeze regardless.
It gets genuinely hairy at times.
cloud storm
Are you guys talking about doom lore lol
wet fossil
I may not be dying very often, but I certainly feel like I'm actually fighting to survive.
That's a very difficult balance to strike.
prime pine
More enemies more damage means you dick around less and improve a lot quicker.
wet fossil
I'm here for a good time, not a slog.
prime pine
Fair enough! Good time for me the very intensity itself....
wet fossil
Doomguy is the intensity.
It's really amazing how they managed to make a good character out of a mute and extraordinarily violent nutjob.
Just body language and actions alone vividly portray exactly the kind of man he is.
shy badger
Shame he actually talked, and you can see his face :(
I really liked him in 2016 primarily because he was mysterious and badass
wet fossil
We could see his face since literally the beginning of the series.
shy badger
We couldn't see him in 2016 though, and up until eternal doom guy and doom.slayer being the same guy was just a theory
wet fossil
It's funny though.
We've got John 117 on one side, clad in green armour with an unknown face, but he talks and has quite the voice on him.
Then we've got Doomguy, also clad in green armour.
But in his case, he has a face and not a voice.
prime pine
I found it weird that doom guy talked but that is that.
Anyways
We should move on
Moments before disaster
bold sandal
lol
solid hinge
is spotting broken
for some reason i be spotted for whole round
and spotted whilst in the middle of smokes
bold sandal
happend to me last round
solid hinge
bold sandal
lol
solid hinge
people camping with smgs
brave coral
@solid hinge the ‘you are spotted’ text sometimes fails to update when you die whilst spotted
meaning it says you’re spotted when you spawn
soft juniper
You're spotted
dapper bronze
Hehehehe
I've finally found something I'm good at
Driving the armoured transports up stairs and then massacring people with the guns
solid hinge
Doomguy talks @wet fossil
But only once he said stuff
And that confirmed he's the same as the OG Doomguy from the 90s
prime pine
Ifs obvious he's traumatised
prime pine
Doom guy in d64 stayed back at hell to make sure another invasion would never happen again
prime pine
They are the same. It is canon.
last path
Who thinks that we need our welrod gun
solid hinge
I'd like the Welrod
prime pine
He got called the doom slayer as its the title he earned in the night sentinels.
last path
Why
prime pine
The implication that he is the original doom guy is the helmet from the cutscene
prime pine
Ultimate doom > doom 2 > Doom 64 > Doom 4 > Doom Eternal
prime pine
Who knows
last path
Yea
solid hinge
Imagine
CHAPTER 7
UNIFORMS COLOR CHANGE
Week 1 = tier skip
last path
But They can’t have the actually uniforms They wore
prime pine
The new games take place in an alternate dimension
solid hinge
Im fine with the normal colors
last path
Yea
solid hinge
Idc if he has mp40 pouches instead of kar98k pouches
Or russian boots instead of british
last path
I know
wet fossil
Dammit will it kill them to just get the standard British uniform in here
I'll take it in green for gods sake if that's what they want.
last path
And German uniform
brave coral
isn’t Patriot basically accurate anyway
wet fossil
Hell doesn't adhere to normal space-time.
last path
The movie
wet fossil
There is only one hell amongst all dimensions.
wet fossil
Doomguy's jaunt through there got him to Argent D'nur.
soft juniper
But the concept in the reboot is way different than the OG
Wraiths is Wraiths
Earth is Earth
last path
Who thinks that we should get the winter war for bfv
prime pine
What officially links the games is the cutscene showing doom guys original helmet and that they found out side a castle
prime pine
As i said. In doom 64 which is connected to doom 1 and 2, Doom guy stays back in hell to prevent another invasion, Gets contacted by the sentinels and becomes what he is.
main grove
Patriot and sandman torsos are somewhat accurate torsos
soft juniper
Its in theird blood
wet fossil
I'm not entirely sure when the Corrax Tablets' account takes place.
main grove
The baggy British pants are absent though
languid sinew
Oh is this doom discord now? Good to know....
last path
So who want the ussr
wet fossil
Different Earth.
One Hell, many dimensions.
This is made quite explicit in the story.
Doomguy couldn't save his home.
But maybe he can save this one.
last path
This is not a doom sever
dapper bronze
Ngl I haven't played doom but
How do so many demons have cybernetics
Shouldn't it just be the ones that were in labs
wet fossil
Cultists have been producing cybernetics enhancements for demons for a while now. Plenty to go around.
Though before that came up, I think it was just assumed that Hell had access to some level of industrial capability and did it themselves.
prime pine
I think doom guy did save the original earth
His earth
Yeah he did
After killing the icon of sin all hell on earth ended. But then the earth government were trying to find a way to quickly close portals in the event it happens again... Ironically enough is happens again and hell breaks loose once again. (Plutonia Experiment)
solid hinge
is hit points being mispresented or smth?
bold sandal
what ?
solid hinge
the points when u hit enemies
dapper bronze
What's the point of the engineer
solid hinge
repair vehicles
wet fossil
If the hit point numbers aren't adding up, you're probably hitting multiple targets.
Bit harder to explain when shooting at planes, but I guess it may be counting damage to the pilot.
prime pine
Pilots are completely protected
wet fossil
Not completely. I've taken a fair amount of damage in my time. Not enough to kill me, though.
prime pine
Its kinda weird... You know you have hit a second guy even if it adds up to under 100
wet fossil
And then there's that time I blew a 109 pilot's head off with the Boys Rifle.
prime pine
Yeah the only things that can shoot you out is explosive rounds on planes
And that yeha
dapper bronze
Lol the one thing I'm good at is using AA batteries and driving and there's neither on this map rip
solid hinge
when u get on the objective, pop a flare, put down a spawn beacon, kill server enemies suppressing team and sit on the objective so ur team can cap, but ur team never actually get on objective and just sit outside of it and u get killed when the enemies come back
making ur nice play totally useless
main grove
Most battlefield players know how to shoot an enemy but that's about it
wet fossil
People on my team always seem to have a remarkable amount of patience with whatever shitbucket's currently tearing them a new one.
main grove
They have little micro/macro awareness of what's going on
solid hinge
^
wet fossil
You'd think with a tank driving about killing everything on a constant basis they'd be pulling out every damn bazooka they can find.
main grove
Like being able to tell that an objective has been wiped clean of enemies or if a counter attack is imminent
wet fossil
Instead, it's just me.
solid hinge
i witnessed a teammate run past a bunch of enemies i spotted with a flare
prime pine
Thats the sad part.... Nobody is tryna constantly pummel you
main grove
And to actually stay on that objective rather than to zerg to the next
prime pine
And there are those people who dont go on AA's
main grove
When I notice our infy is being farmed by a plane/tank
prime pine
Cause on that fjell match with me in the VB.... Very few people were taking Aa's
wet fossil
AA guns aren't much help against a really good pilot.
prime pine
Yeah true that but people usually try
solid hinge
istg im the only one who tries to thank down the damn annoying ass planes
wet fossil
They'll happily demolish the position and fly off before they get to 50 damage.
solid hinge
and no else tries to do anything
wet fossil
Now Fliegerfausts are something else.
main grove
Two people on AA on different parts of the map work
wet fossil
They can't see you with them.
solid hinge
cause they lost control and crashed
main grove
As well as a fighter plus AA
wet fossil
Get two guys in a good position and that's the end of any damn plane.
But it's never two guys.
Or even one most of the time.
main grove
One infantry usually has the power to maybe take off 60-80 health off of a tank/plane
If they use everything they have
But that's not enough
If the driver/pilot is smart
they go away
Making your effort completely wasted
solid hinge
thats i was saying yesterday and everyone was tryna tell me all ur equipment is enough to destroy a tank on ur own
its not
cause i tried
multiple times
wet fossil
I've seen burning tanks limp across half the map to a resupply without a single man trying to shoot it.
Like jesus christ people it's right there.
A frag would threaten it.
main grove
Killing vehicles requires surprise burst damage to reliably score a kill
I see people use AA so wrong as well
They just fire all the time
Even when the plane is out of range
What you want
Is to make the pilot think he's safe
And only start shooting at the worst possible time for them
wet fossil
That's what the fliegerfaust's for. It's an ambush weapon.
They come in strafing what they think is helpless infantry and suddenly their engine's alight.
main grove
Flieger is good but they can get away most of the time
And if they get away taking 90 damage means nothing to them
solid hinge
i guess i just suck but planes are super unpredictable, so i can only get lucky sucks with fliegerfaust
its super hard to get a direct hit
main grove
Stationary AA works best on heavy planes
wet fossil
I went one Fjell match basically just parked on the AA gun at E point.
main grove
Since they struggle to get away
wet fossil
Every plane just fell.
wet fossil
Every so often a few guys would come after me personally, but the 37mm flak is great for infantry.
main grove
Since they can easily get away
wet fossil
I'll be honest, the enemy team struck me as being kind of incompetent.
wet fossil
The German AA will fuck your day right up and it has a gunshield.
wet fossil
At least to infantry. Plane performance could be better,
wet fossil
The hitboxes are kind of wack.
main grove
If they manage to survive a burst from an AA cannon then you've done the job of spooking them
You won't kill them from then on
wet fossil
That's the problem. Lots of shells go off at the right proximity but do no damage.
main grove
So just leave the gun
brave coral
if you don’t know there’s someone on the AA then as a fighter it can do a lot of damage to you tbf
solid hinge
nerf planes
brave coral
and then since it’s probably not the target you were going for, you don’t have time to destroy it and it will continue to damage you until you get out of range
main grove
Do not fire unless they are guaranteed to take heavy damage and are unable to take you out
wet fossil
Those fuckers refuse to die.
brave coral
i honestly don’t think planes are too bad
solid hinge
i hate them
main grove
You don't need to stay on AA the whole game
brave coral
and i say that as someone who does like flying but i primarily play infantry
solid hinge
they need to one shit planes
prime pine
ROCKET!
brave coral
if you don’t fly carefully you can go down pretty quickly
brave coral
@solid hinge if you’re only doing 20 damage in a run then you’re using the AA wrong
main grove
Honestly anti vehicle is my favourite thing to do in BF
wet fossil
But goddammit do I have to be saddled with nitro and the crappy fast repair to get those rockets?
main grove
I would like to make it my speciality
prime pine
Well what else do you do when get hit. You try to get away
main grove
Planes have a very high skill variation
solid hinge
im talking about the fliergerfaust @brave coral
brave coral
‘bastard won’t sit there and let me shoot him’
bold sandal
could bf5 function as a comp game ?
wet fossil
No.
prime pine
Ive been flying a lot the past 6 months. People will moan about planes regardless
brave coral
the Flieger tends to deal more than 20 damage if you hit
wet fossil
Battlefield was simply never designed for it.
wet fossil
It was easy and that meant the damn ace pilots were actually getting some humility.
brave coral
i think it could do with a buff to damage, but make it harder to use still
brave coral
@wet fossil you do have to acknowledge it was ridiculous
wet fossil
Goddamn fighter mafia.
main grove
Fleiger never works on planes traveling parallel to you
brave coral
i didn’t even fly at the time and i could see it was stupid
wet fossil
Sure it does, just lead your shots.
main grove
It only works reliably if they fly directly overhead
brave coral
yes, it was nice to get a bit of payback for like a week
but then it was just cheese
wet fossil
There is a bonus to head-on damage though.
main grove
I'm a fan of making non flak AA
wet fossil
That's the real deal. Bait them into strafing and turn them to cinders.
brave coral
and they’re not
coral fiber
oh hello there
main grove
That does a shit ton of damage
Like if you could make AA that requires direct hits
But it does like 30 damage a hit
solid hinge
I wouldnt mind non flak AA if the AA in this game didnt feel random as all fuck
brave coral
it can be a bit janky
solid hinge
the hitreg on AA is by far the dodgiest of anything in the game
wet fossil
Quad 50. turrets and the like would be neat.
But christ alive you won't hit anything with them.
brave coral
i was flying and could see the shots dusting on direct hits lmao
coral fiber
Yeah AA sometimes dusts for some reason
main grove
Probably because they reused BF1 flak
solid hinge
I've spent entire rounds in the LVT AA and got absolutely fuck all plane damage
main grove
But they had slow planes
BF1 had good AA in the form of just shooting them with your gun
wet fossil
BF1 flak was a little janky, but yeah it was a hell of a lot more reliable.
main grove
Bolts did like 10 damage
brave coral
doesn’t it have piss bullet velocity and spread
solid hinge
It seriously feels like every other shot dusts
coral fiber
The Bofors however hit hard and it's pretty good
AA is in a great state however
It's pretty hard hitting now
brave coral
yeah
solid hinge
i had the perfect ideal situation of a plane circling slowly around me and I dumped into it to overheat and did like 60 damage
which is like
main grove
It's 40mm
solid hinge
way, way too fucking small
which means it was hitreg failing
again
like every vehicle in this game
i have genuinely never played any game in my life that has remotely as bad hitreg as bfv
wet fossil
Tell me about it. I plant an AP shell into a Churchill's flank at a flat angle and that shit glances?
coral fiber
For me it only dusts a couple of times
solid hinge
I think if you add together every single game I've ever played and put them against bfv it would still be dominated by bfvs servers sheer ability to fuck everything up
coral fiber
Usually in high ping servers
brave coral
yeah i’ve personally never been affected by dusting
solid hinge
i feel like posting the tiger video again
main grove
Hitreg issues probably arise from the odd bullet mechanics they added
brave coral
or not to a noticeable degree
main grove
With pen and stuff
brave coral
i’ve benefitted from it
wet fossil
Speaking of bullet pen
brave coral
but i’ve never had tons of shots dust
wet fossil
I'm sick of my rifle rounds doing 2 damage because it grazed a leaf or something.
main grove
Marita.mp4
wet fossil
I get reducing its damage upon going through surfaces
brave coral
yeah it’s not a particularly well implemented system
solid hinge
i really hate the vegetation in this game
coral fiber
I fought with a bunch of Brazilian pilots yesterday
It was fun af
solid hinge
it doesn't move naturally with people going through it
sturdy gulch
Please
solid hinge
you just clip through all the branches
main grove
I've had bolts do like 95 damage on headshot because it must have grazed a bit of window
sturdy gulch
@main grove yhyhyh I kinda agree tbf
brave coral
idk why they gave the bushes bullet interaction
sturdy gulch
@brave coral what bushes I don't remember yhyhyh
main grove
IRL bushes don't do shit to the bullet
sturdy gulch
@brave coral oh yhyhyh I get it man
wet fossil
Marita has this strange quality to it where no matter where you are in the map, someone is going to be above you.
With a machine gun.
sturdy gulch
@wet fossil haha yhyhyhyh I get you
brave coral
i quite like Marita in breakthrough
sturdy gulch
@main grove can you not be fucking rude you twat
brave coral
but it plays kinda weird in conquest
main grove
pulsar valve
just stop
wet fossil
It's a map purely composed of high ground.
coral fiber
Marita is ok
It has its moments
sturdy gulch
@main grove stupid idiot stop calling me a spammer
brave coral
oh it’s this guy again
main grove
Because you are you see
wet fossil
You may have the high ground, but some other guy will still have it over you.
brave coral
@main grove tbh i didn’t see you accuse hardkore of being a spammer
coral fiber
Aww shit he we go again
brave coral
guilty conscience?
brave coral
it’s macbeth all over again
bold sandal
lol
solid hinge
@main grove stupid spammer
coral fiber
solid hinge
I hate that bullets interact with bushes and people dont
main grove
solid hinge
You can run through a bush and it will barely even move
Just clip through all the branches
main grove
I feel so off with my aim recently
wet fossil
Far as I'm concerned we just need to go back to BF1 gunplay.
main grove
Like I'm using AGM/42
wet fossil
Every class had a range niche and damn well stuck to it.
solid hinge
my aim been suddenly shit too
I keep getting kills I know I didn't deserve and i keep getting slapped by people I know weren't gonna track me properly
main grove
And trying to track moving targets and land all 4 shots is super hard
coral fiber
I haven't played in a week recently which is why im so shit but im sorta good now
wet fossil
You know that 'random spread' people kept bitching about?
coral fiber
But then again im still being punished by them noobs lol
wet fossil
It's still here.
sleek trail
I love battlefield, i really do. But i've completely stopped playing.
they give us a full year without snap aim assist , only slowdown. The way it should be.
Now they completely removed slowdown (they did this latest patch, WTF ??!??) and still have snap aim assist like SP games..
Like holy fucking shit DICE, who is making these decisions over there??? The gunplay was the only thing keeping me, it was really good. Now it's just who locks on first dumb garbage.
The gunplay is not the reason nobody is playing this game, it's the god awful reveal and horrible support. i hope someone at dice reads this but i doubt it.
wet fossil
It's just called horizontal recoil now.
coral fiber
Random recoil
wet fossil
But one name change and suddenly all the complaints melted away...
coral fiber
Spread to recoil? Whatever it is
main grove
It's not heavy
coral fiber
Idk
solid hinge
shooting in general felt inconsistent lately
wet fossil
BF1 was very well balanced in this regard.
wet fossil
I liked how it differed from BF4's total lack of real feel to its weapons.
main grove
Spread sucks when it cockblocks you from landing shots but it's very good at making gun balance way easier
wet fossil
These are beefy industrial weapons.
They are old and janky, and by god you better learn how to control them.
main grove
BF1 had very high spread on LMGs initially that reduces as you hold the trigger
But their damage was 4-5 BTK
coral fiber
Have i mentioned that the 2A still has incredibly controllable recoil? Lol
main grove
So their TTK was kept high by all the shots that you missed
wet fossil
Remember when suppression actually did something?
main grove
But the bipod made BF1 MGs into fucking monsters
tight rain
Suppression not useful anymore?
coral fiber
Nah
I did not like suppression
wet fossil
Nowadays I can be putting rounds directly into a sniper and he'll still be aiming perfectly fine.
main grove
Suppression was ok I think
tight rain
Uh oh
wet fossil
See, suppression didn't effect where the bullets were going.
main grove
but now I see it helped the balance a lot
tight rain
So im not entirely useless then?
wet fossil
So you can work around that.
main grove
BFV has a trend of removing systems that feel good when they're gone
But balance is hurt by it
coral fiber
Random bullet deviation
The reason why i didn't like infantry as much in bf1 but it was ok
wet fossil
Many of the functions of BF1's gunplay that people complained about actually worked very well once you actually learned to work with that shit.
main grove
Random bullet deviation IS spread isn't it
coral fiber
Yeah just don't spam
wet fossil
Sweet spots, for instance. One hit body shots may be annoying, but what it did was make every rifle unique in their performance.
It wasn't just mag size or whatever.
You had to pick what would do best at this particular range.
main grove
Suppression made it so if you were being scoped down by one of those OHK monsters
You could screw over their aim so you can survive
coral fiber
Sometimes i would just spam someone and see my bullets go way off from my target and im like wtf XD
main grove
RBD also made semis a lot more balanced
wet fossil
And BF1's recoil was very controllable.
Just don't spray and pray, and suddenly you actually start hitting shit.
main grove
Since spamming them led to nasty spread that made the gun unusable beyond 50m or so
solid hinge
are u saying the stg got low recoil?
wet fossil
Last I checked, yes.
solid hinge
Hi im player of Battlefield 5
to me its pretty hard to control
on Xbox one
i had to get used to it
wet fossil
That thing competes with proper rifles.
solid hinge
i dont see it
brave coral
StG isn’t exactly super good anymore
wet fossil
A return to BF1 TTK would be appreciated.
brave coral
bfv?
solid hinge
it feels pretty balanced to me
battlefield 5
time to kill bad
and this is bs, i just got killed through cover again
main grove
BF1 TTK was a bit confusing for me
solid hinge
battlefield 1 time to kill better
wet fossil
But right now I think it's more of a TTD problem.
main grove
Like it varied a lot
brave coral
did you miss the whole 3 month thing where they slowed it down and literally everyone shouted at DICE
coral fiber
Alpha STG was like godly no?
main grove
I think it was overall slower than BFV
solid hinge
please fix Time to kill on battlefield 5
main grove
But because of different reasons
wet fossil
It's always the goddamn rate of fire that dominates these days.
main grove
Namley RBD
solid hinge
its to long to kill
brave coral
they’re not going to change it again when it’s basically the thing that most people like
main grove
Right now I'd say most people are fine with 6.2
brave coral
you want it to be more like bf1 but bfv is too slow?
solid hinge
it wasnt even like i got shot and and ran behind cover, i wasnt engaging any enemy and i was just sitting behind a wall, and suddenly took damage and died