Suomi is difficult to counter
#battlefield-legacy-titles
prime pine
stark dock
What outclasses them in CQC? A shotgun? Which ends up having less range in general?
prime pine
I was about to mention that eagle
stark dock
Assault's guns have Some competition, but the Suomi & 2A win out on raw RoF alone.
prime pine
Shotguns on support counter subbies. No infinite heals and even more limited range for fucked up power essentially.
stark dock
I just want the Med to be balanced around smart reviving and intelligent play, rather than the hold M1 and then press E affair of now.
solid hinge
they have fast rof but also take more bullets to kill vs the avg 4 bullets to kill from assault rifles
prime pine
Yeah assault is general infantry. Assault rifles good all rounders. Semis are fucked due to range.
It is done around smart revving
You cant rambo revive anymore
soft juniper
Hey
solid hinge
hey trevor
prime pine
Support has more accurate guns and works best as anchors
stark dock
I mean, I guess you have a point.
prime pine
Regarding lmg's
noble field
You can empty squad conquest lobbies if you run 4x shotgun especially the drilling
stark dock
weeps in MG42.
soft juniper
Ever heard of Jungle commando carbine Carcano
prime pine
I go bren/fg42/model 37 as support
solid hinge
@noble field thats a rare type of shotgunner, most u see are 3heads
soft juniper
AT boi
noble field
MeX had some really good players and they all got tired of getting their stuff shoved by shotguns.
solid hinge
why arent i a regular yet
noble field
@prime pine ps4?
prime pine
Xbox
soft juniper
Yall one pump chump
ionic ether
Slug shotgun is hilarious
soft juniper
Shotgun users are bunch of one pump chump
ionic ether
I use them on some maps, mainly to flex on snipers with the slugs lol.
I will swap classes several times a match depending on the situation.
stark dock
Trying to get steam overlay running on BFV is a pain..
solid hinge
thats like carrying an extra backpack full of iron weights during a marathon for your system
stark dock
Also what the hell is up with BFV suddenly stuttering/massively degrading in performance the longer my PC stays turned on?
...Its the steam overlay.
solid hinge
yep
stark dock
It used to work, there were ways to do it.
solid hinge
its using a ton of threads
solid hinge
yeah BF4 is 6 years older
or its like parking a couple hundred big rigs on the freeway and expecting traffic to be normal
stark dock
...What in the world are you talking about?
solid hinge
same with discord btw
stark dock
Even then, the stuttering/FPS loss is unrelated to the steam overlay and has occurred before I tried doing so.
solid hinge
I highly recommend running 3rd party apps on a laptop or phone when playing BFV, you really should quit all other apps when you play BFV
stark dock
The game runs at a flawless 120 FPS when I'm typing away or clicking off it on my other monitor, only for it to then drop to shitting its pants when I click onto it.
stark dock
??!?
I'm saying it runs fine when I'm not clicked on the window.
:Y
But then it takes a dump when I click on it and try to play.
solid hinge
you go right ahead then, clearly you know what you are doing
noble field
grabs popcorn
stark dock
Ah, I think I found the source of the issue.
solid hinge
and I gave it to you, you will have issues running multiple 3rd party apps on a multi monitor rig and BFV on ultra 120fps .. even on the best rig
stark dock
I don't run it at ultra.
Everything except for texture filtering & texture quality is set to low (those 2 are set to ultra.) I'm running a 1080P monitor.
Set to their lowest setting or off* correction.
stark dock
https://i.imgur.com/vptvtR4.png I just want this suffering to end.
compact oxide
Don't want suffering? Play older battlefield games
Really just anything other than BFV
stark dock
I have BF4 installed but the server I regular in has its Staff asleep
So its MAA in uncap and spawnrape all day.
shell drum
some fking maps on breakthrough is just pure bullshit
soft juniper
BF4 servers have bullshit admin
soft juniper
uSiNg M320 Is NoT aLlOwEd
sonic rampart
Shotguns ban 
soft juniper
nO bAyOnEt AlLoWeD
stark dock
The only rules in the server I play on are no sitting in uncap and no VPN/Livestreaming.
sonic rampart
‘You were totally camping, its not that you killed me the admin’
compact oxide
No explosives in my family friendly BF4 server
soft juniper
Kill in action
You were kicking for blowing up admin chopper
prime pine
Wha- No bayonet? 
sonic rampart
Im going to start a server on BfV were people get Banned if they commit war crimes
prime pine
I would only Ban AMR's and MMG's
tough lodge
I miss getting kicked because some vip took my slot
soft juniper
Nooooo
tough lodge
soft juniper
Operation Locker servers are the worst
prime pine
But also crashing your plane gets you kicked
soft juniper
They ban every fucking thing
prime pine
Honestly the m320 would have an actual use
tough lodge
I use mortar on locker
prime pine
UCAV
sonic rampart
Big brain
prime pine
Hehe
tough lodge
the best part of locker is the outside part
soft juniper
Wish Dice still keep 1 or 2 servers
tough lodge
I remember playing recon in golmud and just fly a MAV and get spot points
sonic rampart
No the mode obliteration
soft juniper
No I don't want to be obliterated
tough lodge
Wish Solomon islands was similar to Community Operations
prime pine
I still remember the one time my friend and i just abused everyone with guided rockets
tough lodge
I was a jet pilot wanna be in bf4
tough lodge
I pilot attack jets but only have 0.3 kpm
prime pine
I had gunner soflam and of course he had guided missiles.... The lobby started to copy us LMAO.
tough lodge
sonic rampart
I just want choppers back
In the next battlefield
They added a lot to the matches
soft juniper
Of course they coming back
tough lodge
My mbt loadout is
HE shell
Canister
APS
FLIR
warped rivet
chopper hell comin back
prime pine
670 versus 600?
warped rivet
Shanhai PTSD alert
tough lodge
wish more tanks in bfv have canister shell
prime pine
My friends were saying that the helis were incredible fun
tough lodge
I love canister shells in bf4. But in bfv i only available in the pz4 and the aa tank
warped rivet
It's pretty fun
prime pine
Canister shell flakpanzer.... Good fucking god
Imagine all the fucking pellets down range LMAO
ionic ether
Throwing knives are satisfying to kill people with.
tough lodge
I just wish more medium tanks have access to the canister shell
tough lodge
soon™
prime pine
Canister shells on the valentine is rare
Honestly chi ha and sherman with canister shells would be interesting
At is usually much better but as a whole it wouldnt be bad for shotgun shells
stark dock
Oh hey another match where the enemy team's top 5 players are all medics with 2A/Suomi.
groaaaaaaaaaaaan
noble field
was it a close quarters map?
stark dock
Conq, Devestation.
stark dock
Like
warped rivet
serisouly drivin a heavy tank in narrow urban map is bad choice
stark dock
I can understand what people are doing.
warped rivet
Unless your skill is superior
stark dock
And yeah its a smart choice, but personally I find light bolt SMGs and the 2a just so droll and boring.
soft juniper
Solomon is my favorite now
flint sorrel
vietnam war next battlefield?
warped rivet
What's your favorite tank
flint sorrel
korea didnt heavily impact the soldiers like vietnam did
warped rivet
forgotten war
soft juniper
Rising storm: Nam
flint sorrel
it was either massive firefights or guerrilla war
noble field
M60 The pig
flint sorrel
rising storm 2 isnt for the console players tho
stark dock
RS2 was also abandoned by its devs so
flint sorrel
which is what they are missing out on
noble field
You guys can always play VERDUN 😆
stark dock
And the Korean war has way more diversity in environments than Vietnam tho'
flint sorrel
but still kinda is held up by the community creators
soft juniper
Not really
warped rivet
diversity in envrionment?
soft juniper
Nam have city, mountain jungle, height
warped rivet
Didn't know ma country had that much different environments XD
noble field
Korea would be awesome
stark dock
Korea has islands, forests, jungles, cities, mountains, lmao.
soft juniper
Hopefully dice dont add boobie trap 
warped rivet
Jungles in Korea????
stark dock
But if it were my choice? Present-day.
warped rivet
We got forests vut...
flint sorrel
imagine battlefield napalm animation tho
warped rivet
not rainforest or junglea
noble field
Pershing vs T34
warped rivet
s
soft juniper
I think Nam give more PTSD
warped rivet
Yeah it id significant
stark dock
I forget, does Korea have swampland or?
soft juniper
Not sure
warped rivet
swamp exists
flint sorrel
but flamethrowers and punji traps russian weaponry, french weaponry and american weaponry
warped rivet
whole damn mixture XD
noble field
Spear smeared with poop + 10 tick health damage per minute
soft juniper
Nam antitank
warped rivet
Law?
flint sorrel
vietnam would be amazing
warped rivet
Did GI use LAW as an anti tank weapon in Nam?
flint sorrel
the whole of the geneva convetions were chucked out the window in vietnam
the used biochemical
raped the locals
warped rivet
Agent orange
flint sorrel
killed innocents for fun
warped rivet
Shit my uncle died by cancer and his doc said Agent Orange is responsible for dat
:(
warped rivet
Anyway it would be awesome to drive cold war tanks
flint sorrel
battlefield hardline vietnam
flint sorrel
but drugs
warped rivet
oh
flint sorrel
geurilla warfare would be cool moving through the forest undetected in a massive jungle/city merged map with towns and rice farms
soft juniper
Agent Orange?
noble field
We could have USA vs Mexico. Drug cartels vs US Military
soft juniper
You watch animation too much
flint sorrel
the thing massive airplanes would drop on the vietnemese
its called agent orange
its a chemical compound
soft juniper
Ahh
warped rivet
Yup
soft juniper
Its dioxin
stark dock
Hardline 2 would be gun, or BF:Apocalypse.
warped rivet
Soldiers thotughr it was some sort of pesticide
flint sorrel
but the customizations for vietnam would be insane for helicopters, tanks and soldiers
shell drum
will bfv add more tanks to the USA like Hellcat?
shell drum
or the Patton?
soft juniper
tbh plane spraying dioxin is a little bit too extreme
flint sorrel
battlfield: the wild west civil war
stark imp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWBnwev3jZc Some lethal aiming
shell drum
T29 will be nice too if they decide to add that tank
or that was like the later part of the war and bfv is the near the start?
warped rivet
Battefield: Primal
- Mammoth as a heavy tank
flint sorrel
rock as primary for infantry
soft juniper
Agent Orange name of Dioxin because them usually contained in orange container
flint sorrel
spear for sniper
soft juniper
Not dioxin is orange
flint sorrel
in vietnam the vietcong could act like the locals and turn around and gun the G.I.'s in the back or something
so singleplayer plot?
soft juniper
The US troops usually take locals in a group
flint sorrel
and gun them down
flint sorrel
they used to do that too
they would rape the women even if they were under age
buy off prostitutes in the city
soft juniper
There only one gun massacre known as My Lai
Other usually in war zone
Not in these tatical group
vapid delta
Usa gets away with lots of war crimes
flint sorrel
but if vietnam does happen then we can see the return of the huey hellicopter
soft juniper
But to be honest we didn't hide them
flint sorrel
not necessarily
vapid delta
Exactly, they can just get away with it
flint sorrel
some of them tried to hide it by burning the villages
vapid delta
We still remeber the holocaust though
flint sorrel
but the vietcong did the same by using faeces on their spears and traps the infect the usa
vapid delta
No one remebers any us war crimes
vapid delta
Im talking the fat in cloud 9 americans
Who are upmost patriotic
Bot saying u cant be patriotic
Not*
soft juniper
To be honest each countries have their own dark stories
vapid delta
The filthy capitalists uptop
flint sorrel
they should make a whole cold war game
soft juniper
France enslaves Indochina civilians for 100 years
flint sorrel
vietnam, korea, gulf war etc
stark dock
China is...China.
vapid delta
You are correct but just america can say they have killed 10 million mexicans and get away with it
stark dock
No I'm talking about China's dark history BEING its entire history.
soft juniper
Our country is formed in blood of Indians
vapid delta
Un is Us nqto is Us
flint sorrel
opium war time
vapid delta
Nato*
flint sorrel
time for britain to blow up china again for drugs
stark dock
wheeze
flint sorrel
imagine the VW beetle being a secret vehicle in rotterdam
messages being deleted lmao
stark dock
Imagine if DICE wasn't just a bunch of rookie and overworked/underpaid freelance contractors/employees a la Bioware.
vapid delta
Easter egg where you see Adol (----) in a beetle
vapid delta
You cannot say the h word
flint sorrel
then stalin riding tsar bomba down as like a russian v1 rocket
vapid delta
Eastern front now!!
soft juniper
Vodka tims
vapid delta
Its vodka time
gray glade
i got bf1 mosin nagant with iron sights memories
hoary condor
wish i had good PC
vapid delta
My pc crash running hoi4
flint sorrel
whats your gpu?
vapid delta
Also pc is super expensive
flint sorrel
cuz i7 8k core is good
vapid delta
To make it run like ps4 or xbox
flint sorrel
nah pc to run like console is around the same price as a console
vapid delta
My friend pent £1500 on a pc to run same fps and ps4
vapid delta
Obviously
flint sorrel
i spent 1.3k with all the stuff i needed and get around 400 fps on cs
vapid delta
Anyone want to play bf1 on ps4 eu servers?
vapid delta
my psn is Mr_whippy99_
solid hinge
im in a game so do you want to add me?
if not ill wait till it's finished then ill add you
vapid delta
There are underscores between mr and whippy and after 99
solid hinge
ok
vapid delta
U got verdun too?
solid hinge
i got all dlc
vapid delta
Same
vapid delta
I know i have both
solid hinge
ok phew
vapid delta
Ive been on bfv
solid hinge
fair
wild jacinth
flint sorrel
and british
ionic ether
Krag Jorgensen is an really good sniper rifle. I’m don’t think I will ever use any other one lol.
A*
Wow English
Let me try that again
Krag Jorgensen is an insanely good sniper rifle. I don’t think I will ever use another one.
solid carbon
Really good choice
ionic ether
I think kar98 has the same specializations as it
solid carbon
Yes, they share the same
ionic ether
I like the combo of low drag rounds, zeroing and bipod. I’ve been able to consistently headshot stationary targets up to 500m
solid carbon
I never use zeroing, and why the hell would you use the bipod
When you can have a bayonet to stab some ppl
ionic ether
Depends on the situation
ionic ether
I usually go for very long range
solid carbon
Okay the bipod is useful for long range campers who dont wanna help their team
solid carbon
AT makes almost everyone rage, i love it
idle breach
wow
ionic ether
Again that depends on the situation.
idle breach
kicked from the server, seems like the server is for doing assignment quickly
solid carbon
ionic ether
I clean up all the bipod people lol
idle breach
standing around in circle shooting flare to each other and if you try something else you get kicked
idle breach
lol
ionic ether
I tried slug shotguns again earlier today and forgot how satisfying it is to get 70m shotgun kills
stoic breach
Boys AT is so fun
sonic rampart
stoic breach
sonic rampart
Boys AT = camping 
brave coral
i tend to use bipod just because having bayonet often screws me over
solid carbon
Hipfire accuracy trash
brave coral
and it looks cool for a long range precision sniper
tough crag
solid carbon
bipod looks bad on rifles imo, always go for bayonet
tough crag
brave coral
naahh
Krag with 6x and bipod looks sleek
especially with the skin set up i have - Gold metal parts and Blued wood parts
solid carbon
gold + mint + night owl
brave coral
i was surprised that i got the Gold receiver bc normally that’s the final assignment on base weapons, but for some reason on the Krag masteries it’s the second to last
so i have the gold receiver but not stock
solid carbon
the golden stock looks weird on rifles, i always go with mint
brave coral
blued stock looks really good with gold metal imo
stark dock
I wish I had the spare funds and willingness to buy boins.
Chromed Finish metal & Mint wood is the way to go imo.
raw orbit
noble field
why isn't there chromed finish for the newer weapons? They are lazy. No brandenburg/liberte skins for old weapons ?
couldn't customize scopes
brave coral
we don’t really know why new weapons aren’t getting skins
stark dock
I'm with some other people in that BFV may actually be the end of Battlefield and that the people who made BF1 and BF4 so good are either with whatever company DICE LA was or working on Battlefront 2.
eager shore
New skins tend to be chapter rewards now.
soft juniper
If u want skin
stark dock
What we have may as well be a skeleton crew intended for LTSB-style support.
soft juniper
Play CSGO
brave coral
from the Commando Carbine to around Battlefest, there was a second ‘wave’ of skins, but since then they’ve launched with just the very basic skins unfortunately
tribal aurora
Still waiting for the not released 5v5 mode skins 
brave coral
ooh yes
those Tripoli weapon skins are very nice
there’s also just a lot of soldier skins in the files that haven’t been released yet
solid carbon
you will have to pay boins to get those skins for sure
brave coral
hopefully next week’s armory will have a bunch of new stuff - i think they’ve expanded the Soldiers tab, there’s sales on some older bundles which may be leaving the armory, and there’s been some nice additions this week
i wouldn’t mind a Tripoli skin bundle
uneven hollow
Really do hope so
But like dose it have to take week tho
Would be nice if they lowered the time to switch
keen nebula
lfg
solid carbon
!!lfg
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brave coral
@uneven hollow a week is fine, since a lot of people can only play on weekends or at certain times in the week
uneven hollow
I guess it’s understandable
brave coral
also a week is a reasonable period - most things in games rotate on a weekly basis
queen canopy
h
queen canopy
Wack
drowsy storm
The best thing about battlefield are the trailers
solid hinge
Theres like
6 hackers
with 200+ ping
in some pc battlefield 5 uprising servers
it's kind've annoying, ngl.
dusk whale
can you still unlock the grease gun
solid hinge
the russians just make ak variant of everything
sniper rifle- ak variant
shotgun - ak variant
solid carbon
@dusk whale you should be able to buy it with company coins
drowsy storm
Dragnov
dusk whale
does that translate into real money
solid hinge
i'm just saying like
solid carbon
no
solid hinge
whats with the cheating issue on bf5
drowsy storm
RPD
dusk whale
nice
verbal tangle
solid carbon
nobody knows
solid carbon
np
solid carbon
More lame knifes
keen spade
The Knuckle Duster just gave me a flashback to Day of defeat
I remember when i used that knife in Day of defeat
i think it was 150 kills for the achievement
drowsy storm
Would anyone be interested in Battlefield karts?
solid hinge
literally the entire russian military armament is just ak variants
main grove
Because it’s such a fucking good receiver design
Makes sense to use it on the SMG, the AR and the Sniper
solid hinge
ehhh
the ar15 is probably a better platform and more reliable than the ak
they did a mud test for the ak and it didn't pass at all, if anything, it makes the ak into a bolt action rifle
but the ar15 and m16 passed
the only reason the m16 failed during vietnam was because of the powder they used
which caused the rifle to jam
cloud storm
Why is your rifle just entirely fucked up with mud is the real question
solid carbon
imagine losing a war against some rice farmers
solid hinge
also someone had the right idea not to issue cleaning kits
solid hinge
imagine thinking america actually lost the war when they were just there to support the south vietnamese
south vietnam lost the vietnam war
with american support
solid carbon
solid hinge
no they didn't, america was just there for to support the south vietnamese
cloud storm
Lmao
solid hinge
but, as both north vietnam and the united states saw
the south vietnamese army was just a terrible terrible terrible military force
cloud storm
America entered the war to prevent the spread of communism to South Vietnam
solid hinge
also the french started the vietnam war
main grove
They failed
cloud storm
They lost the war because they failed that objective
cloud storm
I mean yes literally
solid hinge
cause they didn't want to lose vietnam as a colony
main grove
Bruh the capital of the country nowadays is Ho Chi Minh City
solid hinge
and then they lost
cloud storm
All objectives the US had in Vietnam they failed
main grove
Even if you inflict more casualties than then enemy if you fail your objective you lose that battle/war
solid hinge
in the beginning in 1955 was to stop the spread of communism
main grove
Like the Brits and Aussies at Gallipoli
drowsy storm
See the rice farmers has this thing called gurilla warfare
solid hinge
later on it started to change to for america's credibility
main grove
It was a failed invasion
solid hinge
actually korea ended in stalemate
drowsy storm
Wasn’t Korea a stalemate
cloud storm
I guess
solid carbon
brave coral
stalemate is still essentially a loss when you try and invade somewhere
main grove
Yeah so America semi succeeded in stopping communism from moving south
main grove
But failed in destroying it up north
solid hinge
no it wasn't
solid carbon
it was
solid hinge
it wasn't a war crime
cloud storm
American cold war philosophy was to stop the spread of communism not to draw against the Chinese lol
brave coral
use of chemical weapons is a war crime
main grove
Bruh Vietnam was a shitshow
drowsy storm
Napalm?
solid carbon
7 million tons of bombs had been dropped on Vietnam, more than twice the amount of bombs dropped on Europe and Asia in World War II
brave coral
indiscriminate use of napalm against civilians has got to be a war crime
drowsy storm
Or chemical weapons
brave coral
coughs they weren’t the invading force
main grove
Oh so that makes agent orange and napalm ok then
sonic rampart
They created and fought a war that wasnt theirs
solid carbon
Ever heard of the My Lai Massacre?
brave coral
they may have committed war crimes, but they weren’t the instigators of the war
drowsy storm
How come the Viet cong gets a cool name while the USA don’t
brave coral
also
sonic rampart
Ye blame the french
cloud storm
Right but once you intervene in the war as the greater power the war becomes your responsibility
sonic rampart
light radish
in the spitfire which cannon is the mmg and which is the 50 cal
main grove
Yeah because the French were STILL trying to have a Colony
brave coral
america had prison camps where inmates were tortured, violated, and brutally executed
sonic rampart
Only know its in Vietnam
solid hinge
@brave coral so did the north vietnamese
main grove
Spitfire has .303 British LMGs, .50 cals and 20mm Hispano as possible armaments
brave coral
@light radish in the vb the first gun is the 20mm cannons
main grove
So LMG, HMG and autocannons
solid hinge
@sonic rampart look up the battle of dien bien phu
light radish
what are the symbols for each in the hud
brave coral
they look pretty similar honestly
main grove
They’re kinda confusing especially on BF-109
light radish
isnt the 20mm hispano an AA cannon as well
brave coral
if you look in the spec tree in the menu it’s more obvious
main grove
No that’s 20mm oerlikon
solid hinge
@sonic rampart it was a battle between the french and the viet minh
solid hinge
the viet minh technically been around since ww2 and were for the liberation of vietnam from the french and japanese
light radish
this guy stuck 6 bazookas on a grasshopper recon plane
sonic rampart
And your point is that the french were worse than the american?
solid carbon
light radish
the french surrendered to rice farmers
brave coral
@sonic rampart no, because the french started the war America is absolved of any war crimes
cloud storm
Dude america lost
solid hinge
i mean we originally helped the vietnamese during ww2
brave coral
that’s how it works y’know
solid hinge
giving the weapons and medical aid to them
brave coral
and?
solid hinge
even helping ho chi minh back to health during ww2
solid hinge
ho chi minh didn't even want us to get involved
brave coral
america killed millions of innocent civilians a few years later
solid hinge
@brave coral it sounds like you're saying "every american soldier in vietnam is a war criminal"
sonic rampart
America drops atomic bomb and then after says its illegal
cloud storm
Yeah we killed more of them then they did us but that's not how war works
solid hinge
@sonic rampart oh so you think japan is a victim?
brave coral
if that’s how you want to interpret it
sonic rampart
I do
solid hinge
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
sonic rampart
Because its their homeland
main grove
Probably because Ho Chi Minh knew what American interventionism can entail
brave coral
@solid hinge nagasaki and hiroshima were acts of terror
desert dune
This is getting off topic and a bit dicey. Chang it to something else.
brave coral
that’s fair
cloud storm
Damn where else can I shitpost about history
sonic rampart
History discord idk
solid hinge
when are we getting berlin in bfv
brave coral
we don’t really know what’s coming in the future
solid hinge
I WANNA LEAVE BERLIN BURNT TO THE GROUND IN BFV
brave coral
afaik we don’t even know next week’s chapter reward
ok
i had a feeling something like this would happen
solid hinge
i wanna play as the 45th infantry in italy
brave coral
if you play as the American forces in Italy it will just be ‘US army’
brave coral
the faction will most likely be US army if we see the americans in Europe
solid hinge
yeah i realize that
brave coral
i hope the Pacific US and Europe US factions will be separate at least
solid hinge
so you wanna play bfv with pizza cutters?
solid carbon
gib russia
brave coral
that’s just adding team switch functionality
gimme an Italian elite with a pizza cutter melee
solid hinge
are we ever gonna get french resistance in the game?
stark dock
@brave coral You know they'll just give us half-hearted 'European soldier' cosmetics which are reused assets from the Brits and Pacific expansion.
solid hinge
i wanna sword fight with a baguette
brave coral
i imagine the next ‘unique’ faction will be the soviets
solid carbon
resist
solid hinge
@cloud storm i know
feral grotto
ffs... 3 servers 3 awful teams.. how can you be that bad in a game... and how is it possible that all of those idiots ended up in the same team...
solid hinge
but i wanna fight with a baguette
solid carbon
battle hardened baguette melee
solid hinge
and if would give us a reason to actually have females in the game
same with the soviets
female russians make the best snipers
cloud storm
Change my view: game would have more content, have been better received, and a bigger playerbase if it was an alt history game instead
solid hinge
you're not wrong
i think the biggest complaints from people about bfv was the historical accuracy and the fact there's females
proper tapir
we really need rush back full time guys
solid hinge
or thats from what i saw (This was before the game released)
True
now we have ttk as one of the problems
proper tapir
i think ttk is back to good
cloud storm
Yeah that first trailer with the metal arm lady and stuff like that really turned a lot of people off
cloud storm
32 vs 32 tho
solid hinge
why not 64 v 64
cloud storm
I dont play battlefield for small modes
proper tapir
we have modes that are 32 v 32
solid hinge
Frontline was amazing
cloud storm
Give me chaos or give me death
proper tapir
you are along for the ride in a 32 v 32 mode
16 v 16 gets much more tactical and competitive
cloud storm
I mean it's a super casual game lol
solid hinge
Na 16 way too small
proper tapir
it isn't for rush
uneven hollow
Imagine if 5v5 was a thing and made other games modes for 5v5 
cloud storm
Next gen 128 vs 128 battle of Shanghai remake for bf6
solid carbon
5v5 conquest
solid hinge
Na
solid carbon
without vehicles
solid hinge
people complain bfv wasn't historically accurate, but bf1 wasn't historically accurate, but then again bf1 is a better
solid carbon
running simulator
solid hinge
if bf1 was historically accurate
proper tapir
just saying rush is a staple and 16 v 16 has good pacing for it
solid hinge
we would've all been sitting in trenches in the game with only bolt action rifles
cloud storm
Make 1v1 hamada
shy badger
1v1 halvoy
solid carbon
cant wait for the 1v1 tryhards
brave coral
tbh that’s still largely ww2
proper tapir
32 v 32 breakthrough and conquest are great
brave coral
at least for the earlier parts of it
proper tapir
but shouldn't make all the game modes the same
cloud storm
Also what's the deal with those 2 maps that arent in rotation. Provence and some fish market looking map.
solid hinge
They should make an only standard guns game mode
proper tapir
they are too small
brave coral
@cloud storm they’re only for small modes like Squad conquest and tdm
brave coral
Lofoten could be a nice larger map with some little transport boats
proper tapir
yeah if they could expand it a bit would make a good rush map 😉
brave coral
maybe put some Schwimmwagens around
proper tapir
same with provedence
solid hinge
can we get the stringer lmg
gray glade
anyone used pacific AA tanks here?
brave coral
Provence could be expanded to be Arras mk2 or a close quarters town map
gray glade
is it just me or is the pacific aa "guns" on the tank kinda crap against planes but great against infantry?
shy badger
They have incredibly low muzzle velocity
solid carbon
true
uneven hollow
Yea
cloud storm
Jap tanks suck in general
stark dock
Rush in BFV is dogshit with how Medic is balanced.
shy badger
It's really hard to actually hit planes
gray glade
i honestly did more damage against other tanks when i used the AT ammo thingy on it
shy badger
But once they get close it shreds them
gray glade
than vs actual planes
cloud storm
Going against a full specced sherman with a naked type 97 is a level of hell
solid carbon
rush in bfv is shit because 80% of all attackers are playing sniper
shy badger
oooo I dunno, maybe they nerfed them against planes too
stark dock
Jap tanks suck
The 75MM AT turret wished to speak to you @cloud storm
proper tapir
yeah but that's the same on all modes
solid carbon
nope
cloud storm
Naked type 97
proper tapir
that's why i kind of prefer rush, because in breakthrough i need snipers on objective
cloud storm
I only have extra zoom!
proper tapir
in rush i can at least go set myself
cloud storm
Sherman's 2 shot me but it takes 4 to 5 to beat them
Leveling up vehicles is hell in general at this point tbqh
proper tapir
i loved breakthrough in BF1, not as much in BFV - but does make me realize rush is better for a good PTFO mode
solid hinge
can't we just get a bfv update where we get the fucking b17?
proper tapir
again in a 32v32 breakthrough match you are kind of just along for the ride
you are either on a good team or not
solid hinge
what are we gonna do with a b17 in bfv?
cloud storm
Eh
proper tapir
rush is more of an equalizer
uneven hollow
I still like the 3 attacks/defenses left mechanic
solid hinge
well bomb the shit out of the place of course
uneven hollow
Same with behemoth
proper tapir
yes it can
solid carbon
yes it can
uneven hollow
But 5 would be better
simple talon
is flare damage bugged? three times in a row I hit someone, get points but no challenge progression
proper tapir
you can have an amazing squad in 32v32 and it still might not be a enough
because your whole team is sniping
i love the chaos, i love the big battle - but a mode that changes the pace (rush) is still needed
for variety
simple talon
fourth time, definetely bugged
uneven hollow
When the snipers are sniping tanks are sniping even the medics are sniping and even the assaults are sniping and heck the supports are also sniping
proper tapir
yeah sometimes you just get on a team full of snipers
and it ruins the game because no one is PTFO
and that hurts bad on breakthrough
proper tapir
yeah good gun
gray glade
the reload is absolutely horrifying tho 😄
stark dock
Learn to interrupt the reload.
uneven hollow
I think clip
stark dock
The Turner can bed fed via 5-round strippers yeah
uneven hollow
Melee
proper tapir
yeah but why?
gray glade
the ammo count goes up after each clip
uneven hollow
Yea
gray glade
so after it reaches 5 more, switch to pistol
stark dock
Learning to interrupt stripper reloads is WAY more valuable than just dumping your spec to get a detachable mag that can't be preemptively interrupted.
gray glade
but its not optimal tbh
proper tapir
but you guys are still ignoring the fact we need rush back on all 20+ maps
it's a necessity
proper tapir
they can keep doing the random game modes as part of weekly stuff
but rush needs to be permanent
why aren't people setting up rush servers?
or any servers?
not enough options yet?
sonic rampart
Because ^
uneven hollow
Pretty sure they copied fortnite on that park
stark dock
If you ask me, the only modes BF needs are Conq, Domination, TDM, Rush, and Breakthrough/Operations (pref. Operations.)
proper tapir
i mean at least there's XP now
sonic rampart
You cant even name your server
proper tapir
yeah...
sonic rampart
You cant have servers online 24/7
stark dock
Easier to build maps when you only have to build them around 3 modes lmao.
sonic rampart
Lol
stark dock
And I say that in a good way!
I got into Battlefield through Bad Company 2, that game was PURE Rush.
And back then it was great.
gray glade
in that list, get rid of domination plz
proper tapir
yeah i played ONLY rush for a long time
gray glade
add grind instead
eager shore
If you ask me, the only modes BF needs are Conq, Domination, TDM, Rush, and Breakthrough/Operations (pref. Operations.)
I'd say Frontlines too, but that mode isn't as popular as it may seem, I think.
stark dock
What even is Frontlines?
proper tapir
conquest is fun and all, but got kind of sick of chasing my tail on objectives
uneven hollow
Front lines is basically breaking through
proper tapir
rush was the first mode that had a frontline of sorts
uneven hollow
But it’s back and froth
proper tapir
yeah frontlines is a great concept really
stark dock
YEAH THAT SHIT WAS FUN
proper tapir
wish it caught on more
uneven hollow
Like an actual ww1 war
proper tapir
yeah
eager shore
When you got good teams on both sides, holy hell is Frontlines fun.
uneven hollow
We need that but in 32v32
proper tapir
had issues with sectors unlocking though
stark dock
Frontlines should replace Conquest Large
proper tapir
oh man that would probably be insane
eager shore
I remember the first time I played Frontlines in Battlefield 1. The time glitch meant the game went back and forth for about 2 hours.
It was glorious because both teams were good enough not to let the enemy push them back all the way to the telecoms.
proper tapir
haha i kind of remember that
it's a good concept for a mode
heck bring back frontlines full time too!
rush and frontlines!
uneven hollow
Oh yeah pretty sure if you went deep into their territory you play rush
Only 2 objs to destroy
stark dock
Rush & Frontlines could serve as the main modes to carry BF as a series since they encourage similar tactics & teamwork.
proper tapir
somedays are a conquest day, some days are a breakthrough day, some days are a rush/frontlines day 🙂
noble field
King of the hill
proper tapir
need that variety
noble field
One point spawns all sides
solid hinge
when they bring the russians into the game, do you think we're gonna get the ppsh41
proper tapir
see the datamine on invasion mode?
noble field
Put your belly down and crawl soldier
proper tapir
that mode actually sounds like the best of all
eager shore
I can almost guarantee we'll get the PPSh-41.
proper tapir
tower defense
eager shore
It's too iconic not too have.
proper tapir
not only do you capture objectives (like conquest), but then you build nodes on them
solid hinge
i heard the PPSh-41 was pretty terrible in way
noble field
You mean outpost?
solid hinge
like unreliable
proper tapir
it's like outpost
stark dock
Breakthrough/Operations needs drastic expansion in order to be unique and attract an audience.
proper tapir
but you build a tank yard, barracks, artillery, etc
lost garnet
proper tapir
it was a datamined mode
yeah grand operations dropped the ball @stark dock
i think the biggest thing they are missing (besides context/map) is a map/mode tree
right now they kind of just pretend to do it
but every day should impact where and what you do next
stark dock
Imagine this:
Operations, Rotterdam.
Your team fights hard as shit, final defense, you win! GG right?
Nope.
Next match, squad leaders get to choose what parts of Rotterdam to V1 and turn into 'Devastated' areas.
solid hinge
Battlefield4 Some1?
brave coral
that’s a lot of dynamic map elements required
stark dock
EXACTLY
eager shore
It's dynamically unrealisitic to implement, as cool as that sounds.
solid hinge
which means months and months of dev budget on a large scale, I dont see it happening
brave coral
i think grand ops has basically been abandoned
solid hinge
not saying its a bad idea, I just dont see it happening
stark dock
They even fucking HINT to the concept itself in Op Underground's Breakthrough variation.
brave coral
it has a very small playerbase because it kinda sucks
solid hinge
Yeah the levoluiton is Scripted but
stark dock
You can hear a V1 blowing open the hole into the subway.
proper tapir
this is how grand operations should be:
ROTTERDAM - Day 1 is German attacking on breakthrough
German Major Victory - Day 2 Devastation breakthrough
German Minor Victory - Day 2 Devastation conquest
German Minor Defeat - Day 2 Rotterdam Conquest
German Major Defeat - Day 2 Rotterdam Final Stand
and so on, so on - and you add in battalions to give you so many "chances" like BF1 did, so you can kind of turn things around or the battle sputters out with a final stand
solid hinge
Battlefield 4 is 6 years old so....
brave coral
but they don’t improve it because it has a small playerbase
solid hinge
Hey battlefielders
brave coral
the playerbase might increase if they made large changes
solid hinge
@proper tapir Nahh... grand ops should have it’s own mode.
proper tapir
it needs the dynamic map/mode tree based on daily results
that was the concept but it wasn't fully executed
brave coral
but as it has a reputation and people probably wouldn’t actually know if they’re not involved in the community, would the playerbase increase enough for the time and resources to be worth it? hard to say
proper tapir
i like how it mixes up modes but it should make sense
solid hinge
Should i sell My
kidney and buy the new COD or should i buy BF5(Or BF1)??
Something like. Airborne and breakthrough as one
proper tapir
i like the day 1, day 2, day 3 concept but as it is doesn't really feel like you are progressing
solid hinge
Exactly
brave coral
between bfv and MW it’s really personal choice, idk what kind of game style you like
proper tapir
i think different modes are appropriate for different campaigns, results so why not mix them in if they make sense?
solid hinge
Or every sector has it’s own objectives
brave coral
Conquest doesn’t fit in Grand Ops imo
proper tapir
first and foremost the game should have a UI that shows the map of europe and the where the campaigns are!
WTF???
solid hinge
CQ doesn’t make any sense
proper tapir
it does from the standpoint of a "neutral" mode
solid hinge
@proper tapir BF1 did it great with that
proper tapir
yeah it did
solid hinge
39.99 euros AFOR BF5? does it come with the DLC???
brave coral
it could have been cool to see something along the lines of Galactic Assault from swbf2
@solid hinge there isn’t payed dlc
proper tapir
every campaign should have had a different feel
brave coral
but you can definitely get it cheaper than that
brave coral
but yeah
wraith yacht
Uh us this BF 1
proper tapir
i think of a potential market garden campaign
brave coral
a galactic assault style thing could be cool
proper tapir
of course it would have airborne, maybe even multipe airborne
solid hinge
It’s year 2 edition.
cloud storm
Galactic assault is dope
solid hinge
FUCK ME
60 EUROS FOR YEAR 2?
But you still have to pay for the Y1 content (weapons) if u get the y2 edition
nvm
i'll not buy bf5
brave coral
like Breakthrough, but sometimes you have to plant a bomb, sometimes hack a computer, sometimes cap a point
stark dock
My ideal Battlefield would be:
Medic (Assault Rifles) - Support (LMGs) - Engineer (PCCs)- Recon (Marksman Rifles) Shotguns are universal.
In-depth customizability (barrel extension, optic, underbarrel attachments (GLs and Shotguns count as attachments PLEASE) etc)
BF4 Style vehicle balancing.
Maps similar to BF1.
solid hinge
U forgot the smgs
stark dock
SMGS can be universal too yeah.
cloud storm
Lol
wraith yacht
I hate shotgunners and bombs
brave coral
tbh i quite like the weapon setups for bfv
solid hinge
Battlefield 6 WILL BE A BATTER WAY OF BF4 YEAHHHHHH
wraith yacht
😂
solid hinge
finally
icy sluice
Just get the regular edition, Year 2 just gives you all the guns and vehicles you've missed as well as some of the cosmetics
brave coral
i think a modern battlefield could go back to 5 classes (adding engineer), have a few universal weapon types, and have a gunsmith-story system
icy sluice
Where's Medic?
stark dock
To me its just Medic, Engi, Support, and Recon.
wraith yacht
If this a battlefield 1 server or V
solid hinge
Assault is medic in bf4
stark dock
Because every class is equally good at killing shit.
icy sluice
Don't exactly enjoy the thought of having the damage dealer also be able to give infinite heals to himself
stark dock
^^^^
stark dock
Medic is too goddamn powerful in BFV imo.
solid hinge
I can´t desagree
stark dock
At least...the way they implemented self-heals makes it so.
icy sluice
Wouldn't call Medics in BFV the damage dealers though
main grove
Medic in BF1 was quite lethal
digital seal
It's also been that way in past titles like BF3/BF4 where ARs are incredible and they have med bags too
hoary condor
Daily challenge - Play Firestorm
Give us a reason to play it
stark dock
They don't need to be, so much of the game is based in close-midrange combat that using an SMG won't make you give up much.
eager shore
Even as a Medic main, I'd love it if there was a delay before the heal started.
main grove
I mean I try to stay back with a bolt to counter all the medics but then one of them pings me with Jungle Carbine
icy sluice
in 1942, they had SMGs and the medic kit had to 'recharge' which makes no sense but helped
eager shore
Like have an animation of your character taking out a syringe from the pack and injecting yourself.
digital seal
We don't need more unnecessary animations lol
main grove
BF1 had small cooldown for pouch if you spammed it
icy sluice
There still is a small cooldown but it's much shorter now
zealous stone
@icy sluice if you wanted it to be realistic, medics would just have pistols or maybe an M1 Carbine
main grove
Out of all the things that I’d say deserve an animation
stark dock
I think the syringe from BF1 should replace Med's toolkit :y
main grove
It’s self heal spam
icy sluice
I never said I wanted it to be realistic
zealous stone
just sounded like you were complaining about lack of realism
icy sluice
I prefer no autobalance
eager shore
Even Battlefield 4 had a delay in the sense that it took about a whole second to throw down the med kit after you pressed the button. You then had to walk over it.
main grove
DICE bad