he rounds are dumb
#battlefield-legacy-titles
wind shale
queen canopy
Would’ve been better if we had more planes
wind shale
should have to sacrifice more for them
solid hinge
Lol
solid hinge
Yeah would’ve been better if the FF gets buffed
But i mean trying to kill someone for 21 mins and failing
wind shale
planes werent super designed to kill ground targets
solid hinge
Is quite amazing
queen canopy
FF is fine as is
solid hinge
wind shale
helis were for infantry farming
queen canopy
People just can’t aim
solid hinge
no
stoic breach
Remember when FF got nerfed cause pilots kept complaining
solid hinge
Lmao
wind shale
planes are in decent spot
stoic breach
Well the entire point of the FF was to stop planes from dominating all the time
solid hinge
Doesn’t help now does it?
queen canopy
Which they do
solid hinge
The real problem lf the ff
queen canopy
People just don’t run it
solid hinge
Is that is bugged
stoic breach
Well yeah cause you have to give up an AT launcher
solid hinge
When u hit planes from behind the hits dont register
stoic breach
Which sucks cause you're dealing with tanks and infantry more than planes
wind shale
instagibbing fighters with a fleiger salvo
queen canopy
Infantry shouldn’t be able to counter both tanks and planes effectively
That’s my problem
stoic breach
They should be able to do exactly that
queen canopy
So many people want infantry to be able to kill everything
The whole point of infantry is weak in single, but strong in numbers
stoic breach
Battlefield is entirely infantry getting ganged by vehicles
queen canopy
This is battlefield, isn’t team play supposed to be a thing?
wind shale
i mean i get the team play thing but
queen canopy
Now everyone wants infantry to just be able to delete everything solo
wind shale
vehicles can get away with far less team play then infantry can
solid hinge
Team play with randoms lmao
stoic breach
"Team play" gets thrown alot to justify clan stacking and zerging
queen canopy
Because they’re vehicles
stoic breach
Thats not teamplay, thats just zerging
wind shale
just because you pick a vehicle doesnt mean you get unlimited agency over the game
that being said
i think vehicles are mostly alright
queen canopy
And in its current state, no vehicle can do that
stoic breach
Vehicles should be strong, infantry just also needs to be strong
wind shale
the way they designed it for this game left them with a balancing nightmare
queen canopy
Which is the case @stoic breach
wind shale
slow tanks are super hard to balance properly
solid hinge
Camping tanks got nerfed
stoic breach
Like, I wouldnt mind seeing tanks getting buffed further as long as infantry AT got buffed as well
stoic breach
Blast radius
solid hinge
The velocity of the shell is way lower
solid hinge
If they nerf them again they will be fine imo
wind shale
trying to think what tanks ive played this patch
i think ive only used the 38t actually
queen canopy
I got two shotted by a tiger while in a staghound earlier
solid hinge
All the velocity got neferd for he founds
queen canopy
Was sad
wind shale
the real issue with vehicles honestly
they went about it all wrong
being able to choose any vehicle type instead of dedicated spawn slots
a very narrow range of anti vehicle gadgets
wind shale
assault actually has strong guns as the tank killer class
queen canopy
Ok yeah AA tanks shouldn’t be able to be spawned on maps without planes
wind shale
when before they just had carbines
queen canopy
It’s dumb
wind shale
so now you have more assault players
so more people who can murder tanks at range
so tanks have to be stronger
queen canopy
Yeah my big problem is that assault is such an end all be all right now
wind shale
assault shouldnt have had the guns it has
the game shouldve swapped assault and medic weapons
queen canopy
Close range, mid range, long range, AT, and AA can all be dealt with as assault
wind shale
like how it was in bf4
problem is
with infinite healing and attrition
medic cant have op guns
or it ruins the game
solid hinge
@tawny spear the missing part in the muzzle is sexy
stoic breach
@wind shale yeah, Assault shouldve definitely had SMGs
wind shale
they screwed themselves hard
solid hinge
That floating muzzle is so hot
queen canopy
Medics and semi autos again
wind shale
not*
queen canopy
God please
wind shale
smg/pdws were for every class in bf4
queen canopy
That was painful
wind shale
engineer had carbines and at
stoic breach
I guess it would be better if assault was medic again
And if all classes had good AT
wind shale
and medic had assault rifles
solid hinge
Medics w smgs revive more
stoic breach
Again like in BF4
wind shale
im still salty
that recon has hardly any flanking weapon options
that was the whole reason i used to play recon
solid hinge
Assault has guns that are good in any situation
wind shale
now youre limited to two
queen canopy
Pistol carbines
wind shale
before you had the entire list of pdws
solid hinge
So u will never see a match wout assault players
queen canopy
I haven’t used those in a while though
wind shale
like 10-12 guns
trench is actually legit on this patch
sad thing is
it has a better damage model then every single smg
queen canopy
Assault is also good against both tanks AND planes now
wind shale
to be fair it only has 360 rpm but still
solid hinge
The bazooka is a 1htk
stoic breach
Doesnt it have 450rpm
solid hinge
Is better than the ff imo
stoic breach
Or did they nerf that again
wind shale
nope
queen canopy
Ehh
wind shale
thats the grease
queen canopy
FF is more consistent as an AA
wind shale
trench is 3btk below 10m
queen canopy
For obvious reasons
wind shale
caps at 8 at 100m
stoic breach
But it was 450rpm in 5.2, that was like the only good thing about it
solid hinge
@queen canopyu will never kill a plane w the ff if they know what they are doing
stoic breach
Damn it
wind shale
it has hilariously forgiving damage drop off now
solid hinge
Since noone uses it
queen canopy
Because it only deals 90 damage
stoic breach
Why are DICE such pussies about weapon balance
queen canopy
Also, since theoretically every infantry could run it, making it a one hit would just be stupid
stoic breach
450rpm was so good for carbines
solid hinge
The bazooka can 1htk those noob bombers
wind shale
assault back to being the jesus class
queen canopy
As a gadget, it should be a strong deterrent, but not the end all be all, leaving that role to emplacements, tanks, or other planes
wind shale
medic guns that arent rapidfire smgs need a serious buff
same with lmgs
er bolt action carbines dont really need a buff
solid hinge
Lmgs are good
queen canopy
And right now it fills that role of strong deterrent
I had some fun with the MG-34 earlier
wind shale
but emp/mp40 etc arent in a good spot
queen canopy
Held the fuckin line against some tommies
solid hinge
Emp is fine
queen canopy
EMP is nice
queen canopy
ZK was surprisingly fun
wind shale
the rapid fire smgs
solid hinge
Zk is kinda useless
queen canopy
It’s good up close
queen canopy
And has a bipod which is usable
stoic breach
Same damage models are good
wind shale
i get it but
wind shale
idk
solid hinge
The zk is the most versatile smg
queen canopy
Idk
wind shale
slrs i would be fine if they were just removed from the game
queen canopy
Maybe bipod accuracy should be a bit better?
solid hinge
The mp28 is good but nobody uses if
queen canopy
That’s one thing I noticed this patch
wind shale
nothing makes me more angry to die to
probably
i was shocked how much kick the mg42 has while bipodded
solid hinge
@wind shale just the zh maybe
wind shale
zh and 1906 both need it
solid hinge
All the others are fine
queen canopy
But like the MG-34 can still be hard to control sometimes
solid hinge
The 1906 is my most used gun
wind shale
i still have not died to like half the support weapons
nah slrs definitely do not need a buff
stoic breach
Their recoil decrease takes slightly too long so you lose a few milliseconds of control every time you fire, it would be better if recoil decrease was faster but they had more recoil to compensate
wind shale
like why do the zh and 1906
solid hinge
Half of the lmgs are not used cuz they are skilled weapons
wind shale
get 760 ms velocity
stoic breach
So they were alot snappier
solid hinge
Amd 80% of the ppl use the lewis
wind shale
before high velocity bullets
stoic breach
Cause they're good snipers
wind shale
theyre hilariously east to use for how effective they are at range
stoic breach
Getting killed by weapons at range is usually more indicative of the map
wind shale
snipers are balanced because they arent easy to use
stoic breach
Which is really shit
wind shale
each lobby already has enough recon players
stoic breach
If automatics can be easy up close, SARs can be easy at midrange, why cant snipers be easy at range
And if theres too much range everywhere, thats a map design problem
wind shale
because their effective range is significantly longer
solid hinge
Sniping has been a meme since they took away 1HK weapons
well except shotguns of course
the maximum skill weapon
stoic breach
Yeah, thats why the whole "damage dropoff" thing really sucks
solid hinge
Snipers should do more damage at extreme ranges because the bullet tumbles
midnight needle
Hello kiddies
stoic breach
The latest TTK update is super half baked because you get 5.0 recoil with worse damage dropoff
So you just get inconsistent ranged damage
solid hinge
The 1906 and the zh shouldn t have the same rof of the 5.0 imo
stoic breach
Making the SLRs more appealing still for consistent ranged damage
wind shale
im just glad they arent as popular as they probably should be
game would suck so much
midnight needle
I’ve actually seen more people use ZH as of late..
solid hinge
The zh is kinda a noob cannon in some cases
midnight needle
It’s kinda bullshit at a certain range cause you can’t react. By the time you get hit by the first bullet the second is like a quarter of a second behind
stoic breach
"Noob weapons" or easy to use weapons arent a problem
solid hinge
10m/s more
stoic breach
Cause the SLRs are good snipers
The bolt actions were balanced as meme "skill" weapons
main grove
SLRs are far more easy to use than bolts
stoic breach
So you can basically ignore them if you want to be a competitive player
midnight needle
I prefer bolts
main grove
Bolts still need a big buff of some kind
solid hinge
1906 is a semi
main grove
I want sweet spot back
wind shale
bolts are in a good spot
stoic breach
Yeah same
wind shale
sweet spot was dumb
midnight needle
Eh
wind shale
no thanks
main grove
I actually liked that in BF1
midnight needle
I feel like the Anti tank cannons need a nerf....
main grove
Sweet spot made bolts not a fucking joke like they are now
midnight needle
Against infantry
wind shale
their fire rate and velocity is ass
stoic breach
Sniping should be easy at range, balanced by map design, suppression and extremely high visibility for scope glint
wind shale
like horrendously bad
main grove
Bolts were actually taken seriously in BF1
wind shale
supression was also annoying
stoic breach
Suppression was necessary for balancing sweet spot
midnight needle
90% of the weapons in BF 1 WERE bolts for like two years
stoic breach
You could suppress snipers and throw them off
main grove
I kinda want suppression to have more of an effect again
It would make MMGs more valuable
solid hinge
B4 ttk snipers were quite op
solid hinge
After the ttk change they were fine
stoic breach
The lack of viable suppression in BFV gives every player the impression they can just stand around in the open and just not be in danger
main grove
BF4 snipers had shitty velocity
stoic breach
Especially medics
BF4 snipers were so fucking bad
Idk why anyone takes them seriously
wind shale
yeah they werent great
just annoying to die to someone 1000m away in spawn that you couldnt do anything about
solid hinge
I dont get why the grease gun fells so good when it isnt
stoic breach
Grease gun is pretty good
stoic breach
Yeah, MMGs were never OP, I agree
But the fact that you cant see when people use them is annoying
solid hinge
Mmgs in underground
solid hinge
Are just broken
wind shale
thats why i was honestly alright with the spotting changes
you get punished for sitting still and never moving
although im biased because i was a medic 1trick for a very long time
main grove
Spotting needs to be fully overhauled
Like how it is applied
And how to counter it
And how to weaken it
solid hinge
I d like to see a 3rd spotting like in bf1 that only applies to non moving eneimies
wind shale
supression spotting is fine
stoic breach
Well that ADS spotting thing only applied to you
solid hinge
It would even make sense
stoic breach
Suppression spotting is nice but it shouldnt be the only way to spot people
And if more weapons could properly use it
wind shale
spotting with flares and stuff is also worse then 5.0
now the game just tells you about it
stoic breach
Thats a good thing
main grove
A spot shouldn’t be instant but it should take like a second or two to apply
main grove
That’s what I think it should have been like back in older BFs
solid hinge
Flares are cancer
wind shale
i dont mind it that much
novel blaze
spam r2 in bf4
main grove
BF1 flares were far worse than BF5 flares
wind shale
since people dont bother to look at their minimaps half the time anyways
stoic breach
Flares are nice but theres not really a great counter to them
main grove
They were indestructible
novel blaze
yes i prefer l1/r1 to aim/shoot
stoic breach
And "shoot the flare" doesnt apply when you're indoors and the flare is outdoors
solid hinge
When u flank
main grove
And could be used in the ground
atomic vapor
does anyone play bf1?
solid hinge
And a flare kills u
wind shale
indoor spotting is a problem
main grove
Flares should spot people in line of sight of the flare
stoic breach
Indoor spotting is pretty nice though
wind shale
hell or getting spotted while literally underground
main grove
Making spotting flares still work indoors
solid hinge
when you see "you are spotted" you instantly die
wind shale
fuck you corner campers
solid hinge
stoic breach
What the game needs is more counter-intel
wind shale
you get to spray oblivious corner campers in the back
main grove
The game should tell you what is actually spotting you
Be it flare or scope
Or suppression
wind shale
nobody uses scopes
stoic breach
Like if recon got a radar jammer that messed with spot flares
solid hinge
"corner camping" is the salt name for a strategic tactical location
wind shale
theres a difference between running and hiding in a corner for cover or to hide/reload/heal etc
or the level 10s who literally sit in a corner and never move
stoic breach
I think every playstyle should be viable, just not really encouraged equally
solid hinge
if you dont think im gonna use the MG42s rate of fire to my advantage and completely deny the enemy from pushing into the next room youre gay
main grove
wind shale
not like you can do much else
solid hinge
strategic tactical emplacement
stoic breach
Lol
main grove
MG42 is probably the worst MMG right now for me
stoic breach
I hate when people talk about strategy and tactics in Battlefield
solid hinge
is it not a strategy game
solid hinge
@main groveflares make a loud noise and spot the direction of the player who used it
wind shale
people are so oblivious
stoic breach
Its super casual
wind shale
bruh no
solid hinge
pretty sure there's a strategic element to it
wind shale
bfv is super hardcore realism milsim game
hardcore is the main game mode for battlefield, dont you know?
main grove
Playstyle does not equal strategy
solid hinge
a stragey is pretty useful in battlefield 5
stoic breach
Every playstyle should be viable, but not equally encouraged
icy sluice
There was a guy laying on his back at the very top of the stairs... received a headbutt
solid hinge
like flanking is a form of strategy
wind shale
imagine if 1/4 the players in any game was recon
stoic breach
I think stationary/passive gameplay and aggressive gameplay should both be viable
wind shale
although if you play grind'
stoic breach
But BFV heavily encourages more passive play than aggressive
wind shale
it feels that way
main grove
If I think some dude is camping in a room I let one of my team run and and if he gets shot I sprint to the corner and deck the prick
stoic breach
Lol
wind shale
one of you gets decked going into a room
you spray him down
and pick him right back up
solid hinge
Fast ttk encourages passive play
stoic breach
Fast TTK doesn't encourage passive play
solid hinge
It does
stoic breach
Does that mean slow TTK encourages aggressive play?
solid hinge
Less reaction time
wind shale
ttk doesnt encourage either
main grove
Range and attrition encourages passive play
stoic breach
The case is that because of your reacting time, you need more information as the buffer
wind shale
every kill you should have to return to base to resupply
main grove
Attrition is genuinely the main worst thing about BF1 to BFV
wind shale
what a great idea
main grove
It’s so un fun
stoic breach
Yea
main grove
Support is shit for ammo now
solid hinge
Tank repair attrition sucks ass
stoic breach
Attrition also means gadget balance sucks as well
main grove
Whereas in BF1 supports were gods of gadget restoration
wind shale
the game needs more fetch quests like grabbing medic pouches
solid hinge
Not being able to fully repair sucks
stoic breach
Support being walking ammo station is such a limiting viewpoint
Support offers suppression and repair as well
wind shale
in order to cap a point you should have to resupply at spawn first
stoic breach
Despite my opinions on repairing
main grove
You didn’t HAVE to run ammo support in BF1 tho
stoic breach
Bro, you must resupply the flag that you put up in someone elses base
wind shale
repairing needs to give more points
stoic breach
😩
main grove
Whereas you do in this
wind shale
i hate attrition so damn much
just put a limiter whenever youre on a good streak
it wouldnt be as bad
stoic breach
Yeah, thing with BF1 is that it fixed gadget and grenade spam with cooldowns
wind shale
if you didnt take forever to start healing as well
stoic breach
But everyone hated that
stoic breach
So now you get instant resupply when you respawn and everything has the same global cooldown
wind shale
to heal my 10hp
main grove
I don’t get why this game has such poor gadget variety compared to BF1 when if anything there should be more gadgets due to better technology
solid hinge
In bfv1 u could heal tanks w horses
solid hinge
And behemoths too
wind shale
and support explosives
main grove
Medic has Fucking nothing
wind shale
medic you run pouch and smoke launcher
solid hinge
Medics have smoke
stoic breach
Fast TTK doesn't encourage camping, slow health regen encourages camping
wind shale
recon you run beacon and flare
solid hinge
And infinite health
stoic breach
What that other guy said about his MMG gameplay is kinda valuable
solid hinge
Best gadget
stoic breach
You can just choose to un-attrition yourself by camping
wind shale
forced teamplay never works out in design
main grove
I mean
stoic breach
Yeah lol
solid hinge
Attrition is good
main grove
From Battlefield
wind shale
you dont need to build mechanics that completely rely on teamplay
solid hinge
The game is different from all the other fps
wind shale
like you didnt need to be given medic pouches in bf4 to heal
you just wait a bit longer
main grove
Like are you saying that going lone wolf should be stronger than with a team
wind shale
where did i say that lol
working together is already a multiplier
like i said
youll be better off working together rather then not
stoic breach
Individuals on their own should be strong
wind shale
regardless of whether or not the game forces it
solid hinge
But there should be a delay of 1/2 secs from the pouch use and start of the health generation imo
stoic breach
Take "flanking" as an example
You have this element of surprise
But you get fucked cause you arent zerging
wind shale
i shouldnt have to wait for timmy to take off his helmet and throw me a pouch in order to heal myself
as an example
in previous games
you could still heal without teammates
it just took longer
as an example
stoic breach
Individuals being strong enough to complete tasks together regardless of numbers or collective strength is better
main grove
I’m not saying forced teamplay is good but it should be highly encouraged
stoic breach
It shouldnt be highly encouraged
wind shale
unless you want to run to base to resupply
stoic breach
People like to say Battlefield is a "sandbox" but then spouting shit like "teamplay"
Like, which one is it
main grove
Lone wolf players haven’t really made the right choice with a battlefield game
Like why
stoic breach
Battlefield is perfect for lone wolfing
wind shale
you cant choose the randoms you play with
main grove
Why did you get it if you hate playing with others
stoic breach
You have such a large play space
Theres so much more value in letting players fuck around doing what they want
Thats the main appeal of Battlefield
stoic breach
Conquest is popular because you can go wherever you want
People love Battlefield because of the freedom
solid hinge
I usually play in 2 ppl sqad w mic
stoic breach
Forced teamplay is directly opposed to that freedom
solid hinge
Way better than 4 randomers
wind shale
i mostly play alone
main grove
But it sounds like you want to become a one man army that makes teamplay completely Fucking pointless
wind shale
and it can be pretty horrible
wind shale
youre still stronger with more people
you do collectively more dps
you have more options availible
stoic breach
Lone wolfing gives you the benefit of a smaller profile, teaming gives the benefit of more numbers and other people to take hits for you
Its the freedom of choosing how to play
And how to approach situations
wind shale
you could be a one man army in bf4 pretty easily
i could slay people and blow up tanks all by myself
wind shale
having a group with me made me more effective
main grove
Like I don’t like the limited health but I’m not sure if that was designed to specifically hurt lone wolfing
stoic breach
It was
stoic breach
BFV was designed to kill lone wolfing
wind shale
are given a pouch by another player
prime pine
Its the only part of attrition i hate
prime pine
Its why medics are popular
solid hinge
Medics can lone wolf
prime pine
Infact i think its the most popular
main grove
I mean I rarely am between 100 or 0 health
wind shale
which now leads to more problems
solid hinge
Wout any problem
main grove
I’m either fully alive or dead
wind shale
with medic being the only class that can infinitely heal
wind shale
now they cant have huge weapon flexibility
prime pine
Damage
wind shale
or else it would break the game
makes balancing medic hard
if people dont play medic the game slows way down
if too many do the game becomes unplayable
all because of attrition
hell, in bf4 medic had the best guns in the game
and infinite aoe healing
and it wasnt an enormous problem
main grove
I don’t like the idea of limited health regen but I’ve never been hurt by it
prime pine
I would personally double the health normal classes can regen
stoic breach
Yeah, its why people think assault rifle medic is too strong
prime pine
E.g heal 60 not 30
stoic breach
Literally its because medic has better healing power than every other class
I fucking wish medic had ARs
solid hinge
60 is too much
prime pine
And have light infantries healing 90
stoic breach
But healing is too much of a game breaker
solid hinge
Maybe 5 more is fine
main grove
The one thing stopping medics from wiping the floor with people in BF1 was the considerable spread that SARs would get in that
stoic breach
What would be better is if healing pouches didnt exist
solid hinge
If u increase the auto healing uhave to increase the bolt dmg too
stoic breach
But nobody wants to even consider that because its not "Battlefield" or "teamplay"
It would be balanced though
And teamplay exists in teammates having good aim in a gunfight
stoic breach
Nah
main grove
Not a necessity
solid hinge
@stoic breach just add a 2 secs delay bween the pouch and the healing
stoic breach
MW has stim so you can regen faster in a gunfight
Everyone hates it because its unbalanced as fuck
BFV has that in the form of medic healing
But everyone likes it as a concept
wind shale
Funny thing for me is like
main grove
Medic pouch self healing should be clunky like in BF1
solid hinge
If u have the box it still is
solid hinge
And in bf1 suppression blocked healing
stoic breach
Getting rid of it and making players regen to 100hp within 5 seconds would be much better
Thats actually another good thing about suppression
wind shale
You dont need to regen that fast
stoic breach
Suppression is telling the player that in that position, they are at a disadvantage
main grove
Why though like just make taking loads of damage in gunsights a complete non issue
wind shale
It was slow to heal in bf4
prime pine
Im used to the fact that within the imbalance it creates a balance. Medics have far less range than any other class and to make up for it they have unlimited heal and smokes.
main grove
BF1 healing was fine
wind shale
And it still works
main grove
5 seconds is like fucking COD
wind shale
5 would be too fast
main grove
BF1 healing was in about 8 or 10 seconds
stoic breach
It wouldnt
wind shale
It was slower before
solid hinge
10
wind shale
And it still worked
stoic breach
Thing is in CoD, 5 seconds feels really slow
honest cave
Hsvent played in a bit. Have they added the ability to change assingments without leaving the server to do so?
main grove
BF is a much bigger game than COD
stoic breach
It all depends on the pace of the game
solid hinge
@honest caveno
main grove
5 seconds is super quick in BF
main grove
Imagine you gun someone to 10 health and he about 50m away and goes behind over
Cover
And 5 secs later he’s at full health
That’s like medics now
stoic breach
Thats not a bad thing
wind shale
Thats what high damage is for
stoic breach
If everyone can do it
stoic breach
Yeah exactly
solid hinge
If u have an impact granade
stoic breach
If you cant kill someone at 50m, you're using the wrong weapon
solid hinge
Use it
solid hinge
Impact granades are amazing
main grove
It would piss me off if everyone healed in 5 seconds
Because there’s no consequence to being shot
wind shale
I had some sad moments cus of attrition recently
main grove
And living
wind shale
Getting my killstreaka shortened becase now my hp is max 30
icy sluice
There's health and ammo practically everywhere
solid hinge
^
main grove
I see it as you’ve made too many mistakes and now you’re in a vulnerable state
solid hinge
Marita bk is quite bad
main grove
Like I still think BF1 had near perfect health and ammo system
solid hinge
Ammo is better in bfv
main grove
One got you low so his shooting was not a complete waste
icy sluice
I have never gotten even close to losing ammo in BF1
wind shale
Not my fault he couldnt kill me
main grove
I hate hurting someone then having my fight mean nothing
stoic breach
I've run out of ammo from living for so long in BF1
The ammo stations themselves are actually decent
In BFV
solid hinge
The only gun i fell it has way to low ammo is the breda
stoic breach
Its like the rare list of additions I actually like
wind shale
Although
main grove
Spread sucks
stoic breach
BFV has random bullet spread
solid hinge
I loved that
main grove
But it’s super good for balancing
icy sluice
Pretty sure every Battlefield has spread
wind shale
It feels like nothing in this game
solid hinge
Random spred like bf1 was amzing
main grove
Spread is cancer but it makes balancing much easier
solid hinge
It was hard to master
icy sluice
Unless Heroes and Play4Free didn't have them but I never played those ¯_(ツ)_/¯
stoic breach
Its not cancer, its completely fine
solid hinge
But high skill gap
main grove
I hated it in BF1 but understood it as what made some guns not OP
solid hinge
But ppl hated it for some reasons
stoic breach
Yeah, BF1's spread was sort of difficult to get around I will admit
It felt easy to aim but landing shots efficiently was challenging
solid hinge
If u understood how to use guns w the spread
stoic breach
Its nice that BFV was dumbed down from BF1
wind shale
It just feels like a lazy way to balance
main grove
Gun play is more learnable
stoic breach
Its just simpler in general
main grove
Recoil is far easier to learn than spread
stoic breach
But recoil is based on random spread
solid hinge
Random spread was more lernable imo
stoic breach
It just doesnt feel random cause spread travels in one direction and the gun is forced to follow spread
solid hinge
U could master some guns w the rof plus range
stoic breach
Because of the "spread-to-recoil" conversion system
main grove
I mean it feels good
solid hinge
And recoil
main grove
BFV shooting feels a lot nicer
wind shale
It does
stoic breach
I prefer BF1 just because of the lower visual recoil
main grove
BF1 had so much visual recoil what
stoic breach
Its harder to hit shit, but my screen doesnt have a seizure when using a high rate of fire weapon
solid hinge
I remember destroying everyone w the cei rigotti amd noone used that gun
stoic breach
Yeah Cei Rigotti got buffed and it was really nice
Nah, not as bad as BFV
RSC SMG's recoil was like
solid hinge
Every gun got buffed
stoic breach
Entirelt visual as well
Ye
TTK2.0 was so good
Faster TTK than even BFV
On release
solid hinge
The spread
stoic breach
In some cases
stoic breach
You could always just use more accurate weapons
solid hinge
U couldnt spam more than 4 bullets w a semi
main grove
But a lot of things got in the way of accuracy
solid hinge
At long range
wind shale
I dont mind fast or slow ttk
solid hinge
U needed more skill on bf1 imo
main grove
I look back and wonder how the fuck were LMGs balanced with 4-5
wind shale
Although my perception of bf is slower ttk than cod
solid hinge
Accuracy and recoil controll were more important
stoic breach
LMGs had reverse spread
solid hinge
Ye
main grove
Like I like TTK in a game to be minimum 400ms or something
main grove
I don’t like mega fast TTK
solid hinge
The spread on lmgs was insane at launch
main grove
At medium to long ranges
solid hinge
Id like to see a cei rigotti type of gun on bfv
main grove
Should BF have a much faster respawn
stoic breach
Yes
main grove
Like should death be less punishing
stoic breach
Of course
Death in BF games feel like asshole
Because of how long it takes to respawn
solid hinge
10 secs lmao
main grove
Like I enjoy a good death in a game
stoic breach
BFV death experience should be this
main grove
It should be like BF4s but a bit faster
stoic breach
Game tells you what body part got shot for you to be killed, who shot you and who assisted them
No "downed animation" because its unnecessary and clunky
The revive animation itself is ok
Basically a death/bullets to kill timeline
main grove
I prefer actually seeing my still corpse in BF1
stoic breach
That clearly gives you enough information
main grove
Be a good way to see your own cosmetics actually
stoic breach
Hahaha
Interesting
Also, teammates should have death icons that show where they died, so you can more easily gauge where danger is
wind shale
yeah dying in this game is ass
main grove
BFV death is a chore
wind shale
feels so clunky
stoic breach
CoD has death icons for teammates, and plenty of ways for you, as the shooter, to prevent death icons for more stealth
Really nice intel/counter-intel gameplay there
And like I said before, BFV needs more information/intel
Also I thought of a somewhat ok way to balance spot flares
Instead of constantly spotting someone, it just places a marker on the enemy's current location every second
So staying still is more dangerous, but moving around naturally is safer because you aren't constantly spotted
icy sluice
Flares do have trails when fired so you can make out where they were fired from. Also directional sounds and tracers do help as well as people shouting and crying when they die
icy sluice
If someone is crying, they've recently been downed
stoic breach
Yeah thats all depth of gameplay
My friend could never play BFV with audio, which kind of sucks, but visual/audio needs to be perfectly balanced in a casual game
Like, you dont need audio at all to play Titanfall 2
Because of how good and functional the visuals are
Personally, I could never use headphones to play because I always used discord while playing
So I always lost some of that sterio accuracy
solid hinge
that’s why there’s still so much activity on BF4 no vaseline
stoic breach
@wind shale also what do you mean by large neon sign
wind shale
in the literal sense
stoic breach
Hahaha
I mean even then, because of BFV's weird visibility, neon signs might even be relevant
prime pine
The NYDAR on the garand is weirdly usable
sour gulch
It's comforting I'm not the only one with visibility problems with bf5.
prime pine
Went 47-6 with it
Honestly i just had some asshole i couldnt even see past 50M just pelting my squad and i
Its just annoying
People know the visibility is bad and so they'll abuse it
coral fiber
Remove distance haze
sterile current
Yeah it’s strange.
sour gulch
Remove distance haze
@coral fiber interesting. Will do.
wind shale
only new cards can actually use it correctly
sterile current
I’m running max settings on PC and for some reason DX-12 broke the camels back.
I have no lag playing with ultra.
Kind of cool experience.
I find the stuff the content creators tell you to disable actually help.
wind shale
i had to check disable fullscreen optimization on the .exe
or else have horrendous stuttering
sour gulch
It's a beautiful thing, max settings, but it's so beautiful, I can't see half the enemies for the trees and fog and haze.
sterile current
I dunno. I don’t really see any visible problems.
I actually think I can see enemies better.
sour gulch
I find that in bf1 and 5, enemmies blend in with the detail in the scenery. In 4, it's was super easy to spot enemies...plus there was spotting. Which was kinda op.
sterile current
I saved my team in Rotterdam with the Tiger.
sour gulch
(and there a alot of stuff going on with the weather and debris...so it's constant movement!)
sterile current
We were down to 192 to 500.
I went and just started capping sectors while a horde of support players stood behind me.
We captured all of them and reduced their numbers down a lot.
Then I called in a support half truck tank and me and my squad bombed their main base.
When we ran out of shells we’d swap places and the other would continue the bombing.
sour gulch
Nice story.
wild jacinth
hey ever since the new cod came out
i dont see rwds and bob7 on firestorm anymore
now they can go try hacking the new cod and get banned from there
echo turtle
Why are you playing firestorm in the first place
oblique widget
Model 37 is so wack
vale fossil
Am I able to do the assault mastery in combined arms?
solid hinge
depends on if the wording states objective areas
vale fossil
Doesn’t say objective areas
solid hinge
then yes
misty plinth
@sterile current the first time you play a map on DX12 its caching the shaders for the game
in the long run it can give you better FPS after its cached everything
depends on your setup tho
prime pine
The closest thing to a spy plane you get in bf5 is the blenheim mk1, bf109 g2 and ju88C
open surge
Well when I say circle I mean around the entire map
prime pine
Hhaha
open surge
You'll be spotting out of bounds!
open surge
or deployments but shush
prime pine
But the spot doesnt last for long
Flares spot a smaller area for longer
Haha
Smoke doesnt even wash spots off reliably
You'll run into the smoke and it says you're still spotted
I cant be bothered getting those last 400 kills with the zero
frozen nacelle
Quick thing.
Dice,
In your eyes.
I firestorm worth keeping going.
Cuz its a good gamemode.
Imo games that are just by them self (Apex, PUBG)
That are BRs do better.
Realm Royale is still going.....
So DICE, if you see this and want to respond please DM me as i will most likely forgot.
About this.
shy badger
I doubt it ever looked promising tbh
shy badger
For them at least, numbers wise
prime pine
I think it was cool it had a really good atmosphere
It felt cold it felt lonely
You know?
Noot noot!
shy badger
Yea it had a certain.vibe
prime pine
They just never did anything about it
shy badger
And noot noot
prime pine
I do
From time to time
There. The pacific theatre was dirty
I mean single and zombies for me
coral fiber
Played moon remastered today
Best 2 hours of my life blowing the fucking earth up lol
prime pine
Oh did you do the easter egg solo
coral fiber
Yes
prime pine
Thats really cool
coral fiber
It was torture
It's literally based on luck if you do it solo
Sure it was cool seeing the earth get blown to bits but it was kinda difficult
molten owl
charred bear
Is this the battlefield discord like the game or?
gray glade
@charred bear yes
untold wraith
When you press throw back and your character does nothing and blows up.
tawny spear
@untold wraith Your enemy goes as far as inventing sticky bomb
untold wraith
Apparently so
prime pine
Good god that was an annoying game
untold wraith
I played like shit that round though.
prime pine
I was in the calliope at the end haha
untold wraith
Lmao
prime pine
Couldnt even get anyone
untold wraith
I kept trying out new weapons I’d never tried before.
charred bear
Anyone on ps4?
edgy stone
This is strange I am on tow 27 and it only shows 10 tiers to unlock?
charred bear
I need someone to join up with on ps lol been lonely for a wile now
edgy stone
Where u from? @charred bear
edgy stone
U must hitted something while flying maybe
untold wraith
I was on Iwo Jima just casually flying and got KIA out of no where and my plane was fine and kept on gliding after I died.
Nope
Normal server
Breakthrough.
edgy stone
I don't know what is the cause of this but this happens to me as well in pacific storm
prime pine
You in my game still axes?
untold wraith
Nah I left after getting KIA for no reason lmao
charred bear
I’m in the states lol
south hornet
hoary condor
find planes OP af
tough lodge
Finally gold plated my type 11