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#battlefield-legacy-titles
queen canopy
main grove
Tiger with HEAT can one shot valentine from the back
fierce radish
I knew they buffed the pacific tanks
queen canopy
I think they did
main grove
From full health
slender drift
I need my American hentai.
prime pine
Imma be getting the pilot and i hope to fucking god his melee weapon will have a unique animation.... I need a good laugh on battlefield.
fierce radish
They broke infantry combat
queen canopy
I was in a training with some of the boys from armored and they’re talking about it @fierce radish
queen canopy
It got buffed hard apparently
open surge
wtf
prime pine
Also end of round reports will not play
slender drift
Welcome back to sauce or loss with the Battlefield Community.
queen canopy
And also the VB rockets one shot tanks 
prime pine
Until tuesday
open surge
why is enemy team working together
prime pine
Yeah they can one strafe tanks
brave garnet
GB: Helena
DE: Günter, Helmut, Kurt, Peter
US: Jean
JA: Masao
These are the characters I use for the factions
queen canopy
Tiger? More like 9 lives wasted
prime pine
How have they been nerfed?
The pacific tanks do massive damage versus each other again. So thats awesome.
icy sluice
Bazooka does like 20 damage to some tanks now
prime pine
Oh right
fierce radish
A lot more he drop and coax damage nerf @prime pine
icy sluice
I did 25 to a Type (Numbahs, the tank)
idle breach
97
icy sluice
Okay, the Ha or Nu
prime pine
Fucking
solid hinge
Did the type 2a get nerfed?
fierce radish
Lol
dense bone
yes
queen canopy
Yes
idle breach
tbh akemi looks better than misaki
warped rivet
recoil has increased
idle breach
or any other character
fierce radish
Did the type 2a get nerfed?
@solid hinge yea thankfully
queen canopy
Basically useless past 20m
prime pine
Chi ha, Chi nu and chi ri that's literally what they are. The chi ri is the experimental version
brave garnet
Chi-Ha, Chi-Nu, Chi-To/Chi-Ri(both look the same to me)
prime pine
Chi to or chi ri, I thought it was Chi ra and i thought that sound fucking cool
queen canopy
EZ clap
prime pine
So i enjoyed playing Ra-Chi in my head
solid hinge
Is the m2 carbine the same?
fierce radish
21 damage a shot
queen canopy
But better
fierce radish
What heck
fierce radish
Yea
queen canopy
Good accuracy and damage
solid hinge
Ooh
queen canopy
Pretty good for close-mid range
fierce radish
But the fire rate isn’t that great
open surge
they even stole our tiger
prime pine
The m2 but i guess tank mg too. Tank mg's have always been alright. I remember how piss weak they were at the launch of the pacific though.
open surge
Team is ass
warm atlas
The Damascus skins are so damn nice
brave garnet
Ima go wander around like a lost tank
open surge
I fucking LOVE having our tanks stolen
fierce radish
Oof
solid hinge
Battlefield moments
brave garnet
I go down with my tanks
open surge
I destroy them myself
brave garnet
Oh no
open surge
If anything bad happens like getting stuck
dense bone
ffs g1-5 is 3btk up to 30m..
open surge
I blow it up
solid hinge
Is the AT buffed?
prime pine
Same dude
I feel your pain
I would sneak up to tanks, place all three and throw my impact grenade.
And then i would do my evil laughter
brave garnet
@prime pinedo you remember the glitch that made tellermines do 7 damage to any tank instead of 30-40 damage
sonic rampart
Ah Yes im the only medic on the team 
solid hinge
Gotta work hard then
brave garnet
Farm revives
prime pine
Oh god
raw orbit
petition to reduce ammo counts to beta levels 🗿
solid hinge
Uh nah
steel agate
warped rivet
hell no
brave garnet
I'll be ok with that
prime pine
Remember how people used to abandon tanks but they would rig it to explode with mines if anyone stole it
brave garnet
To lower the ammo you have
solid hinge
Lol no
brave garnet
I'll be ok with it
brave garnet
I only use shotguns and MMG's😂
prime pine
I only use shotguns and lmgs
raw orbit
and yall complained why do i need to go to objective for ammo 
main grove
@prime pine dude I still fucking do that
idle breach
but you can't give grenades
prime pine
Honestly its good to resupply your grenades
brave garnet
But they barely have any brains to ask me for any
balmy condor
i only use lmgs and semi autos and slr
main grove
But after a few bad spells where they repaired then set off and I only did 50 damage
prime pine
Its not longer as effective dweller due to how fucked mines are
Yeah you should be doing the full damage not nerfed fucking damage
main grove
I usually just get out and throw a grenade to set it off
They buffed them a little bit
They do like 37 damage now but still to little
It should be like 45
Or 50 depending on the tank class
prime pine
Everyone complains about mines and its like what the fuck
icy sluice
btw about AP-Mines
open surge
OH MY FUCKING GOD THEY KEEP GIVING TANKS AWAY
icy sluice
You can just lay on them and live
prime pine
If they wanted to nerf at mines they should make them despawn when the operator is killed.
icy sluice
Literally just go prone and trigger them with your body
open surge
THIS IS LITERALLY THE FIRST FUCKING SECTOR AND THEY GAVE THE JAPANESE A FREE SHERMAN
solid hinge
Are ap mines still a things?
prime pine
Wake island?
idle breach
@open surge wake island?
open surge
yes
prime pine
Thats sorta normal. They're world spawns.
idle breach
yeah
open surge
on b?
idle breach
yeah
open surge
lol...
open surge
they're still imbeciles
idle breach
saw few times happening
brave garnet
Well imma go wander around like a lost tank
real dawn
So there's still no anti cheat system?
raw orbit
anticheat and teambalance is dice's top priority 
solid hinge
jovial forge
Laughs in Spitfire VB rocket barrages
brave garnet
Mk
solid carbon
Mk3A1
brave garnet
Model 3 Advancement 1
ionic girder
The reports not being pulled is getting annoying.
solid hinge
Battlefieldmoments
solid hinge
it just feels like the people making BFV...don't actually play it
Is the gameplay performing well?
or if they do, they suck
ionic girder
@solid hinge Yeah, wonder what the game would be if the dev's and/or manager's played the game because they love it.
solid hinge
Eh I like it rn, it’s a fun game
ionic girder
Yeah, the gameplay has that snappiness back.
No more hitting someone a bunch of times then still dying.
keen ingot
how difficult is it to get company coins in this game? havent played since chapter 3 and ive got digital deluxe - no chance to upgrade to year 2 edition as well which sucks and will have to buy a lot of stuff I guess with CC...
solid hinge
Just do assignments
ionic girder
There are a lot of assignments that reward CC.
Then chapter progression also rewards CC
brittle swan
Dude is it a thing to die as soon as you spawn for at least 5 times per game ?
Or am I big noob
ionic girder
The in-game spawn regulater seems to keep me from dying most of the time when I spawn.
brittle swan
Similar to dunkeys video on bf1 if u know
ionic girder
No, I'm not sure.
solid hinge
He squad spawns
ionic girder
Yeah, squad spawning is always a risk.
In that case I can spawn and die quickly, but that's a risk of spawning in a hot zone.
It's not like MW beta spawning.
Clicks point C, spawns 2 meters in front of enemy. Clicks on point C again. Spawns on opposite side of room. Killed by same enemy.
icy sluice
CoD has always had worse spawning lol
ionic girder
CoD spawning just feels bs.
That's like entering a war irl then as soon as you leave the barracks an enemy soldier is somehow already in your country outside your door with a shotgun.
scenic beacon
Cod spawns leave much to be desired
ionic girder
Supposedly the dev's said they were improving it for when the game released.
No idea how that's changed.
icy sluice
Squad Spawning in games, of course will have some bad times
icy sluice
Yeah Lofoten is tiny
ionic girder
Yes, but it was as if there wasn't a regulator at all.
BF at least tries somewhat to control bs spawns.
prime pine
During practice my friend spawned in front of Ik3
Who was our anchor
You can imagine how that went
icy sluice
I kinda wanna take your tags again 
ionic girder
Like every once in a while I understand. It's difficult to predict every sightline. But CoD seemed to willing put you in someone's face with no feedback until death.
balmy condor
first game back after 5 days cant shoot somebody 8m away while they can't see me
real oof hours
ionic girder
BF you can at least see what your teammates see and get a in-combat warning sometimes.
balmy condor
atleast the ttk feels pretty nice
scenic beacon
@icy sluice likewise
prime pine
Look
ionic girder
@balmy condor Yes.
queen canopy
h
prime pine
@icy sluice watch the stream and ill consider it
scenic beacon
I’m ready for another bayonet duel lol
prime pine
Finals are today
ionic girder
@scenic beacon There should be a community server open for that.
queen canopy
h
prime pine
And i would love to see as many people here as possible to see it.
ionic girder
With rules for only bayonets if we get that ability.
queen canopy
h
icy sluice
@prime pine
prime pine
The finals are on in 7 hours aha
ionic girder
Bayonet CTF.
queen canopy
h
prime pine
Or 6 hours 12 minutes
balmy condor
cease the h
queen canopy
h
brave garnet
h
prime pine
H
ionic girder
h
brave garnet
h
scenic beacon
h
queen canopy
h
brave garnet
h
balmy condor
👉 h
prime pine
Oh no
queen canopy
h
brave garnet
🇭
ionic girder
🇭
queen canopy
🇭
icy sluice
I look away from the screen for 10 seconds...
ionic girder
@prime pine Oh yes.
icy sluice
Alright, you guys had fun, can we stop now?
brave garnet
mHm
balmy condor
🇭 🔫 
brave garnet
ionic girder
Hires all 60,000 members in the server to "H."
sonic rampart
Frick this game
brave garnet
K
queen canopy
@solid hinge h
sonic rampart
Flares are depressing
brave garnet
k
balmy condor
queen canopy
h?
balmy condor
2?
brave garnet
o
queen canopy
O?
violet finch
I
balmy condor
solid hinge
Bruh
robust mango
@fierce radish every SMG was nerfed
jovial forge
Flares are good, helps your friendly mini map watcher
solid hinge
@queen canopy x
brave garnet
Yay
ionic girder
Damage for SMG's was increased.
solid hinge
Some guy just asked "Is tank body customization coming for planes"
jovial forge
And allied planes strafing
solid hinge
Bruh
ionic girder
But recoil was also increased.
robust mango
I dont think any damage was increased for SMG besides grease gun
queen canopy
tfw no SMGs have an h
main grove
Why the hell does the AT cannons on amphibious tanks drop so much
hot drum
@ionic girder mab +5 damage
robust mango
Mp40 still feels like it takes way too many shots to kill someone
its about 6 shots at not even medium
solid hinge
Yep
robust mango
its broke
main grove
I will never understand people dissing STEN and MP40:
robust mango
sten used to be good
robust mango
are you on console?
main grove
Yes
jovial forge
The sten and mp40 were always reliable
robust mango
okay there you go
coral fiber
Vehicle balance is all over the place
So many ninja changes
Imma get some fun before i feel pity for this
https://twitter.com/AzuraProds/status/1235937894147272704
queen canopy
MP-40 still pretty noice
jovial forge
Low recoil
robust mango
on PC nobody is using the mp40
ionic girder
SMG's were 5-13 in 5.2, 4-10 in 5.2.2, and are mostly 4-9 now.
robust mango
the recoil means nothing when assault weapons have no recoil and kill in 3-4 bullets less than mp40
coral fiber
Tanks are actually really good now
jovial forge
Nice tank
solid hinge
I often ask myself, why do I put up with this piece of shit game?
queen canopy
@coral fiber VB rockets 
solid hinge
why do I spend an hour of my evening trying to start the fucking game?
brave garnet
I did 54 to a Pz. IV with APCR from the 57mm on the Valentine
ionic girder
There are still two SMG's with 10 at range.
robust mango
I saw people posting videos yesterday of the STG44 in action, the thing was killing in around 4 shots and was absolutely shooting with no climb, no horizontal sway or anything. Dice truly fucked the medics over
ionic girder
But it's only the Type 100 and Type 2A.
robust mango
None of their weapons stand out and feel good
coral fiber
AT shells actually fucking destroy tanks now
robust mango
the thompson you now need to run the build with no drum mag
ionic girder
._.
jovial forge
Stg44's recoil was never that strong to begin with
brave garnet
Did 17 to the side of a Churchill with the AT grenade pistol
robust mango
i know
ionic girder
I run with drum mag and kill pretty easily between 20 and 40 meters.
eager shore
Considering Medics have unlimited healing, I don't really care if SMGs are underpowered.
robust mango
there was no recoil
main grove
STG44 has always had obscenely light recoil
main grove
Since the dawn of time for this game
ionic girder
But I have to tap fire.
robust mango
you're dead before the regen starts if you're getting shot
jovial forge
You have to play peek a boo ninja tactics as medic
robust mango
people will now complain theres no medics on the team or medics arent reviving people because medics now snipe with jungle carbine
jovial forge
When healing
queen canopy
Idk how I feel about class-based power models
robust mango
the medic is supposed to be an in your face frontline class
and theyve absolutely butchered it
jovial forge
Actually medics aren't frontliners, they're behind the frontliner
robust mango
ive always frontlined medic
thats where all the dead teammates are
why would we be in the backline where nobody is dying
jovial forge
You heal and revive dead teammates
ionic girder
Because of the range restriction.
jovial forge
To push the line
robust mango
the problem is the range restriction is now heavier than ever
prime pine
The main post is about the 38t
solid hinge
I hope they dont fuck up vehicles again
ionic girder
@robust mango Significaly less so than 5.2 or 5.2.2.
solid hinge
This is pretty solid
ionic girder
Still more than 5.0 though.
robust mango
its more nerfed
they put nerfs on top of the 5.0 nerf to smg recoil
so they added extra recoil
to all smgs
ionic girder
Yeah.
robust mango
when i was using smgs
i barely pushed 10 kills
then i started picking up assault weapons
and i ended games with 40 kills
jovial forge
That sounds like a personal issue
ionic girder
What platform are you on?
dense bone
SARs are seemingly op atm
ionic girder
I mean, perhaps you got used to no recoil and aren't used to controlling it.
queen canopy
Yeah the G43 is fucking nuts right now
dense bone
i mean.. there are 3btk weapons up to 50-70m with 360 rof
ionic girder
I honestly like the increase in the recoil.
queen canopy
Yeah it took me a minute to readjust to having recoil
brave garnet
M1 Garand
queen canopy
But I’m glad it’s back
robust mango
Ive been playing since launch
ionic girder
Guns felt too easy to control in 5.0 imo.
jovial forge
SARs are good again
robust mango
it would be one thing if they added the recoil since the patch
ionic girder
Yeah, me too.
robust mango
they added extra recoil
eager shore
Gewehr 43 is my baby. Even before Battlefield V released.
robust mango
onto already reverted recoil'
ionic girder
Yeah, that too.
robust mango
im glad stg44 users didnt get nerfed
they get to continue having no recoil
with better damage at range now
ionic girder
But the values should be numerical.
jovial forge
I've noticed type 2a users have been whining since 6.2 update
dense bone
sars are definitely good
robust mango
SMGS having more recoil than an AR makes absolutely 0 sense
ionic girder
But I'm not developing the game, so I'm really not qualified to say that.
jovial forge
Not you
dense bone
? doesnt smgs having more recoil than ARs make sense?
ionic girder
Actually it makes a lot of sense. @robust mango SMG's are physically lighter guns with smaller calibers. That means less weight to control the gun's kick.
So physically it will kick up more.
robust mango
yes
dense bone
irl and game design SMGs have always had more recoil afaik
jovial forge
Plus smgs arent meant for long range. You're gonna push mid range shots at best
dense bone
^
robust mango
like everyone is just fine with having all their guns being better now that the patch is out
dense bone
what max ammo for garand?
ionic girder
That's why a .45 ACP metal 1911 has less recoil than a 9mm carbon fiber handgun.
jovial forge
Yes I'm happy currently
robust mango
but obviously our guns didnt get better
only the classes everyone else plays are happy
but as someone who has spent over 99% of my time as medic
its bad
ionic girder
I play a lot of medic and like being able to compete at the 30 meter mark again.
jovial forge
I'm satisfied across the board on weapons. I've got choices again
ionic girder
Feels nice putting out 3 bullets and giving 48+ damage.
dense bone
is there any mag size increase for garand?
jovial forge
No
dense bone
hmmm
prime pine
No
dense bone
detach mag?
eager shore
Lolwhut
ionic girder
The recoil is a slight learning curve again.
prime pine
Its literally an 8 round clip you cant even improve what the fuck
real dawn
Unplayable af
jovial forge
You can make your garand a Grendadier, heavy load or with a bayonet
ionic girder
But tap firing usually controls it.
dense bone
wtf is MM?
eager shore
Extended clip Garand.
real dawn
Hackers didn't stop hacks
robust mango
@ionic girder 3 bullets at 48
prime pine
Fast reload and i forgot the other upgrade
ionic girder
I'm estimating.
jovial forge
I feel like I'm one of the few who likes using the grenade launcher with their M1 Garand
ionic girder
Let me check the chart.
prime pine
The garand has three tier 4 perks
dense bone
whaaaat?
prime pine
Grenade launcher, Heavy load and bayonet
ionic girder
That fits the chart.
prime pine
Ive used it since its come out.
ionic girder
I mean, depends.
prime pine
Ive always liked fast garand
robust mango
since the smgs have an equivalent fire rate to ARS if not some of the mare even lower
ionic girder
Angles, cover, headshots.
jovial forge
Originally the M1 garand did not have a bayonet, they added it in later
prime pine
Just wish stock and bayonet were compatible
celest wagon
ionic girder
RoF is generall higher though.
dense bone
garand is a better at range g1-5 but i like g1-5 mag size
ionic girder
Aside from fast firing AR.
robust mango
Mp40 has 500 ish?
jovial forge
G1-5 is a cheese master
robust mango
or 550 ish?
ionic girder
Yes, except there.
jovial forge
M2 is still good
solid carbon
M2 was never good
sonic rampart
Well there are better options now
ionic girder
I have less experience using mid-range SMG's so far.
real dawn
I hope u guys having fun with the game
jovial forge
Success varies from player to player
ionic girder
I've been struggling with the MP40 so far.
sonic rampart
Meh
ionic girder
But my aim is also off because I haven't played BF in a while.
queen canopy
Really good hipfiring up close
sonic rampart
Grease gun > mp40
real dawn
It won't fix nothing
jovial forge
FG-42 is a beast again
solid carbon
grease gun is my fav smg
ionic girder
So I'm giving myself time to improve my aim again.
robust mango
the mp40 has no recoil really
dense bone
so only perk to g1-5 is its mag size?
robust mango
you're dead by the time the enemy hits 20 HP
real dawn
I'm just hoping there's an Anti cheat system update for BfV
jovial forge
The m1 garand has the same sorta role BF4s M39 EBR had. Fast rof and low drop
brave coral
g1-5 can be spammed a lot
dense bone
they have same rof
brave coral
high capacity, 360? rpm
dense bone
so its only more spammable by having a bigger mag
prime pine
The g1-5 has a larger mag and can be used a bit more loose than the turner and garand in due to its large consistent reload
prime pine
Turner with big mag relies on stripper clips which arent consistent while garand has a small clip but faster reload in comparison to turner
brave coral
it’s closer to a heavier M1A1 Carbine than a more precision weapon
ionic girder
To be fair, it's supposed to be closer range than AR's. @robust mango But then balancing weapons that are supposed to be closer range becomes a challenge at reaching equal balance vs out-playability (is that a word?).
dense bone
im gonna try the garand, shit sounds beastly
but ill probably default to g1-5 since im aggressive AF PTFO
brave coral
yeah definitely picking up the Garand again
jovial forge
Be mindful of the Garand's 8 round clip.
prime pine
My friend who aims to get 10K kills with all assault weapons seems to be loving the semis
prime pine
Im not used to the game in its current state. Three months away and its just fucked me up.
dense bone
my 3 games with the g1-5 was fucking dumb, gun so easy to control with no hrec
brave coral
yeah i’m going to have to get used to actual recoil
prime pine
Yeah it was unique in that it had an infinite two tap range.
ionic girder
I'm not used to the game anymore.
So like, I need to practice to really get used to it.
prime pine
I plan to get more used to it slowly. Though im going to give my churchill a whirl more considering the state of tanks right now.
jovial forge
Hopefully DICE don't knee jerk nerf everything to ground again. Simple tone down on certain weapons if they're overbearing
ionic girder
I think the classes require different tactics than they used to.
jovial forge
Beware of the Spitfire MK VB. Rockets got real saucy now
fleet bloom
does lunge mine not knock people over anymore 😔
brave coral
Madsen has always been super reliable
brave coral
it started as 5-5, went up to 6-6 which was still good at range, now it’s 5-6
gloomy kraken
Anyone else got given all predator and urban blue skins for the model 37?
main grove
Madsen is reliable bit it’s got a surprising amount of V rec but hardly any h rec
pastel grove
Good morning fellas
robust mango
@ionic girder but all those weapons kills faster at close range
pastel grove
Also I need to try out the Madsen again
jovial forge
Madsen has the most consistent performance
main grove
Type 11 sometimes goes a little bit to the left and right but otherwise feels recoiless
jovial forge
Its good
pastel grove
How do y'all feel on increased recoil on weapons like the M2 Carbine and BAR?
Also, Type 11
jovial forge
I'm fine as I tend burst fire
idle breach
increas
brave coral
not tried it yet
queen canopy
Recoil is back where it should be
brave coral
but honestly they had no recoil before
pastel grove
@idle breach my guy are you having an aneurysm
idle breach
m2 is harder to use but eh
idle breach
yeah i'm in constant aneorysm
jovial forge
I meant m2
main grove
SLRs and SARs have got quite some recoil again
dense bone
the one thing i will like about SAR meta is more assaults, so that SHOULD mean less tanks
icy sluice
Tanks feel great
main grove
But only if you spam the shit out of them
idle breach
wishing the one more round to hit firing 15 additional rounds lol
icy sluice
Al Sundan Breakthrough feels great when you're a British Tank pushing forward and slaughtering fuckin' everyone
jovial forge
All vehicles across the board got better
main grove
I thought people were mad about tanks getting a stealth buff
pastel grove
The Ag feels really good right now it's kinda weird
idle breach
yeah
ionic girder
Yeah, that could be something to look into. @robust mango What ranges are we talking about? They're pretty equal until about 20-30m.
idle breach
it was secret godgun
pastel grove
Like it's surprisingly good now
jovial forge
Tanks needed to be beefed up considering all the kamikaze assault players rushing them without fear
robust mango
@ionic girder they arent equal if the Bereda kills in 3 hits up to 10-20 meters
main grove
I haven’t noticed extra splash
robust mango
you're dead the moment the burst goes out
main grove
But there is DEFINITELY extra AT damage on tanks shells
pastel grove
Breda kills in one burst again 
ionic girder
RoF, recoil, and that's a burst gun.
jovial forge
I haven't used the churchill since update. Is its howitzer spec still cheese worthy?
ionic girder
That gun shoots a bit slower in general.
main grove
I haven’t used howitzer Churchill in forever
Since they buffed the default gun in 5.2
ionic girder
Need actual values to compare though.
jovial forge
Howitzer Churchill was like your own personal Sturmtiger on demand lol
pastel grove
Howitzer Churchill feels super strong while Howitzer on the Sherman honestly hasn't felt good
main grove
Pacific howitzers were apparently bad but they might have changed with this stealth buff
jovial forge
Howitzer Sherman needs a mg secondary rather then a flamethrower imo
ionic girder
Because that is one gun that can 3 shot in the assault. The m3 can also 3 shot at 0-10m. @robust mango
prime pine
Try the churchill with its armour piercers
robust mango
The m3 fire rate is slower than 1 burst of bereda
prime pine
You can two hit kill medium tanks
robust mango
pretty sure it kills in 3 tho
you die after 1 burst
so whatever amount of bullets is in 1
ionic girder
One burst is 4.
robust mango
Okay
robust mango
well 1 burst comes out faster than a m3 grease
ionic girder
Then stacking recoil in that burst.
main grove
Apparently Panzer 38t AP is now super good
robust mango
and they get a hipfire trait where they can just spam it
ionic girder
SMG's are already hipfire main.
And full auto.
So like 100% burst accuracy required.
Then just kind of be on target with the SMG.
Not counting second, third, or after bursts.
ionic girder
But that's a disadvantage afterwards because of the space between burst unless it's 100% accuracy the first time or low health.
robust mango
but now the focus for smgs is guns that can contest at medium range
if you want a hipfire build
you're still going 2a
or suomi
thompson got some extra recoil so now you just go with the fire rate build and forget the drum mag
the reverted back to 5.0 values and then added more additional recoil
so its very off for some guns
the Zk probably being one of the best
ionic girder
That makes recoil worse. Run drum mag and tap fire lets you spray a bit. I tend to run higher K/D that way.
However, I'm on console.
robust mango
im on pc
ionic girder
So my experience is likely different than yours.
robust mango
you dont have time to tap fire anything like what
maybe on console you do
but you're dead before you can ever tap fire a SMG
or someones already taken cover by then
main grove
Tbh now medics no longer dominate the battlefield since guns that aren’t SMGs are no longer doing SMG damage
robust mango
or sprint slide behind cover
main grove
Medic can get consistently out ranged
robust mango
Yeah the smgs suck at any range
robust mango
its not good if we have no place in the game other thank to revive
gloomy kraken
Lol, patch notes said that matchmaking should put you in your own regions Now, Well Im not in the European region atm but in Japan server.
main grove
Why are you even matchmaking?
ionic girder
@gloomy kraken
main grove
Just convert to server browser
ionic girder
Yeah, got into a 130+ ping server the other day.
robust mango
the 2A is your best bet right now as medic as it stands
main grove
Fuck no
robust mango
just hold corners and wait to be able to close the gap
main grove
2a is shit now
robust mango
on PC the 2a is still massively viable
main grove
Well that’s because recoil from what you say doesn’t exist on PC
Which I think is an issue
ionic girder
Console gets a reduction in PC values to my understanding.
main grove
But it still shakes all around the target
ionic girder
But it's basically balanced the same way.
marble phoenix
Fuck did medics get ap mines?
main grove
They’ve always had them
marble phoenix
Whoa
main grove
For some god knows reason
ionic girder
Needs a rework I think, because recoil on mouse and an analog stick is different.
robust mango
There is no recoil on the STG44
as it stands
if you notice recoil on the console
it doesnt exist on PC
ionic girder
In any case, the issues with 6.2 imo are far better than 5.2 or 5.2.2. Oh no, there's like no recoil on console either.
Pulling down isn't that hard.
I expected quite a bit more honestly.
main grove
There’s hardly any recoil for STG44 on console as well
ionic girder
There's more than there was, but still less than 5.0.
main grove
That gun has always in BFV history been a laser
prime pine
Its just muscle memory that needs to come back
icy sluice
2A is good but not for a distance
ionic girder
Makes sense technically because the STG is still nerfed compared to 5.0.
prime pine
On one part im annoyed they originally reduced recoil just for no reason
main grove
2a cannot stay on a target more than 10m away
main grove
20m if you microburst
icy sluice
It's good up to like 25m which really isn't what you want unless you're playing Operation Underground
main grove
You feel dick
icy sluice
you feel dick
ionic girder
But adjusting everything equally in theory doesn't mean it's realistically applicable.
prime pine
Oh no
main grove
frail gorge
I need a advice, i wanna use the turner, should i ?
icy sluice
You do know that you can press up arrow to edit the last message right?
prime pine
Yes use turner
icy sluice
@frail gorge Give it a whirl yerself
ionic girder
@icy sluice Tap fire jazz hands.
prime pine
Its not gonna change the fact that i said i feel dick
frail gorge
Ive been playing in stg since day 1
prime pine
Im not used to how quick the stg 1-5 can kill in
main grove
I’m not gonna judge you if you do
echo turtle
Try it
prime pine
I just cant wrap my head back to this
frail gorge
I started using m1 garand again cuz of 6.2
steel flax
how do i have so many fps drops
main grove
Stg 1-5 absolutely shreds when I use it
steel flax
from 120 to 30
echo turtle
If you don't like it you don't have to use it
main grove
I think it’s my fav AR
robust mango
@ionic girder @main grove https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/fe7tnb/bit_of_a_flank/
brave coral
i want to get back into the M1907 potentially
echo turtle
It's hard to know how it'll play out for you without trying in the first place
ionic girder
Hm. 👀 click
icy sluice
@ionic girder Tap firing with a 1000rpm smg isn't the best thing to do
brave coral
when Rush comes back/if there’s more CGs hosting it i’ll probably hammer out some objective area assignments
robust mango
absolutely no sway
brave coral
there’s quite a few weapons that i don’t have the final Gold parts on
gray saffron
frontlines is good for that too
brave coral
not so great for attacking objective areas @gray saffron
main grove
That’s PC recoil control for you
gray saffron
ehhh? you basically attack objective areas 24/7
robust mango
its just an abomination dude
main grove
Wonder how much Insurgency sandstorm is gonna have to cut recoil by to make it playable on console
brave coral
yeah, but not according to the game
gray saffron
defending objectives it might be less usefull
robust mango
so unfair
ionic girder
@icy sluice Depends. Easier to control than full stacking recoil.
main grove
Like 60 fucking percent or something
ionic girder
@robust mango Which version of the game?
brave coral
i’m pretty sure at least
pastel grove
inb4 they make a tank Elite
ionic girder
Which patch version? That recoil seems too low to me compared to what I used yesterday.
queen canopy
You’re surprised?
solid carbon
more coming... good ones for BOINS
ionic girder
Could have been recorded back in Janurary though.
robust mango
people dont realize just how unfair it is
brave coral
nah there’s also more for CC
ionic girder
I can repost recordings of beta and call it for patch yesterday.
solid carbon
imagine paying 8k CC for some stupid sand bags on your tank
robust mango
i used the STG44 yesterday and it shot like that
brave coral
probably scaled back versions of the leafy ones we’ve seen
ionic girder
You're on PC though.
robust mango
isnt he as well?
ionic girder
There's a d-pad and y button.
brave coral
it being posted yesterday means shit though
it could have been posted before the patch even went live
robust mango
he literally posted a video from a cool flank he did
ionic girder
Yeah.
brave coral
and?
robust mango
do you want me to Dm him so he can tell me he did it yesterday
ionic girder
Could have been recorded in November.
brave coral
there’s no mention of the patch
robust mango
i literally used the STg44 yesterday
and it shoots just like that
literally no sway
brave coral
no other guns have sway though
brave coral
or not to any degree that it affects your aim apart from snipers
robust mango
have you used the smgs with ADS?
even with mp40 ads build we still get some knock around
robust mango
that gun was perfectly still
the gun didnt even move really when he held down the trigger to that stg44
wish my guns would do that
i'd land every single shot to the head
brave coral
vertical recoil is still pretty easy on console
fallow cypress
Hey bf5 player on pc here havnt played since 5.2 game any good now?
gray saffron
yes
robust mango
im not on console
fallow cypress
Actually?
gray saffron
if you stayed away due ttk, COME BACK IT'S FIXED.
ionic girder
😐
brave coral
especially with a directly upwards recoil direction
ionic girder
I like more recoil.
robust mango
because right now on pc they just arent viable
ionic girder
Direct disagreement.
robust mango
i like more recoil if theyre going to give the gun an incentive to having more recoil
fallow cypress
What about compared to the first time they changed the ttk just curious
robust mango
the chart you showed me has SMGs having the most damage drop off in the game and ive experienced the most kick using those weapons
yet the SARs have little kick and they have the best damage in the game currently
gray saffron
smgs are fine on pc
robust mango
and they all have perfectly viable hip fire specs that go along with those SARs
ionic girder
@fallow cypress Mid-range combat is fairly viable now.
robust mango
they definitely dont feel fine @gray saffron
main grove
SARs now do have enough kick that if you spam them you’re not gonna hit someone 50m away
fallow cypress
Ok ty
ionic girder
Haven't experienced the dreaded 4 damage a bullet.
robust mango
oh maybe not 50m away
fluid oriole
hello
robust mango
but everywhere within 1-30
gray saffron
i feel they're back to 5.0 levels. and they were already stronk in 5.2 and even more in 5.0.
robust mango
you're dominating
gray saffron
just git close
robust mango
they are not back to 5.0 levels
they openly said they added in extra recoil on top of 5.0 revert
the community manager literally posted on the reddit showing the numbers
all the smgs got the recoil nerf added onto 5.0 values
brave coral
and? learn to control recoil
they’re in the state they were about a month or two before 5.0, plus an extra BTK at range
with a couple of exceptions where they rebalanced it in a different way
fallow cypress
Curious coz I didn’t play back when it was 5.2 what were people using
In terms of guns
ionic girder
The recoil is predictable in this game. It isn't random spread.
cedar crown
for some reasons im loving the ag/m 42
brave coral
@cedar crown it’s always been pretty mad
brave coral
honestly my one complaint with it is that it’s quite loud and sharp sounding
fluid oriole
guys for assualt wepuons you think what,s the best wappoun for assualt?
ionic girder
Unless it's the Type 2A. But with 1000 RPM that makes sense.
brave coral
it hurts my ears if i have my volume a bit too high
cedar crown
true
brave coral
lmao
steady sky
just had a 0-1 defeat on conquest, soloman islands, so much more fun than a 500-0 victory.
ionic girder
A gun that small with that many bullets flying should fly everywhere.
brave coral
@fluid oriole honestly all are pretty viable.
fallow cypress
Oh wait actually I heard most ppl were using the type 2a in 5.2
brave coral
@ionic girder also that wasn’t even in the game when 5.2 released
fallow cypress
That sounds so stupid lol
robust mango
@brave coral recoil isnt the biggest issue
brave coral
there was quite a lot of it around
robust mango
theres no incentive for their big recoil
fluid oriole
so what is your recomendation
brave coral
other than infinite heals, revives, the best soft cover creation etc
robust mango
they have massive damage drop offs and dont even compete against the guns that have 0 recoil
ionic girder
@brave coral Yeah. Of course.
robust mango
Here we go with the infinite heals lmao
ionic girder
Why ping me for it?
brave coral
@fluid oriole stg44 is a solid option
robust mango
healing is a delayed regeneration that you can not use every single time you press is, with the TTK you're dead before the heal even goes through
brave coral
tbh just pick a weapon and see how you get on
fallow cypress
How is the new map btw that got released not too long ago
ionic girder
@robust mango Medic does have smoke, regeneration that works behind cover, and learnable recoil.
brave coral
it’s more the fact that it is a massive incentive to play Medic generally
robust mango
@ionic girder Smoke is limited and you dont get more unless ammo dump or 1 from a ammo box and we save smoke for reviving
ionic girder
If we play in the open with no cover then yes, you'll probably lose.
fluid oriole
@brave coral oh ok i will make a go of it but befor that i must do sth to catch that wappoun
brave coral
based on the charts which you’re quoting, you only get significant damage drop (>6BTK) past like 40-50m
fallow cypress
@robust mango that’s right I always do it
ionic girder
It's for what's necessary. There's enough supply around that it should be a vaible option if it keeps you alive and secure a point or strength position.
fluid oriole
@brave coral am i supose to do sth for catching it dude ?
brave coral
i play a lot of medic. there’s plenty of incentives to play it other than weapons, and the weapons are most certainly still viable
ionic girder
@robust mango Which gun?
robust mango
@brave coral 99% of my time is with medic
the longest time ive spent in a vehicle is 17 minutes, that should tell you how much i play medic
idle breach
prove it pillow!
robust mango
ive posted my stats before
fallow cypress
Tbh when I play medic I mainly just smoke revive and heal
robust mango
i literally play medic and i revive and heal all the time
brave coral
that... literally doesn’t tell me anything about how much medic you play
robust mango
but theres no room to cover a revive
fallow cypress
Killing someone isn’t first priority for me
robust mango
if i cant kill the things around me
soft storm
Just got my tiger stuff back
brave coral
you literally can lmao
robust mango
Are you on PC by chance?
idle breach
i think it's really helping if you play other classes to improve your main class
idle breach
yeah
robust mango
Console play is different than PC
idle breach
even the regions in PC is really different imo
aus guys and NA west guys play totally different
with asia
robust mango
and snipers on PC can actually track without losing a target because they can flick the shot with mouse aiming
ive played console bfv and pc and its very different
so maybe smgs on console are fine
fallow cypress
I mainly play all classes plus I’m a tanker
robust mango
but from my perspective on pc, theyre not in a good state compared to other classes
idle breach
im not trying to braggin but I seriously think asian players are more skilled in general and I have plausible reasons
hidden breach
Ive noticed people hipfire a lot on pc
fallow cypress
Least played class for me is medic
robust mango
Okay so right now it says
idle breach
anyway
robust mango
i have almost 3 days playtime as a medic
and 16 hours as a support
and thats my second highest
is support
robust mango
2 minutes as a pilot
fallow cypress
Damn bro
robust mango
3 minutes as a tanker
idle breach
okay is that ingame?
robust mango
yes
idle breach
I'm pretty sure I got like some
robust mango
i am 100% like a medic
idle breach
over 1 days of playtime in "nothing" class
onyx cave
if anyone had the Homeguard skin for Churchill mk vii for Aberdeen, can you say if you still have it?
fallow cypress
I love being in tanks
idle breach
i lost aberdeen
robust mango
i dont have hundreds and hundreds of hours, but i have over 100 hours and its mostly in medic
fallow cypress
Especially the tiger and the tank hunters
robust mango
its not like i picked up this class overnight and im complaining about its state
onyx cave
my homeguard is now vanished and not even in the menu
idle breach
yeah i know
robust mango
im speaking from someone who solely plays medic 90% of my time
ionic girder
@robust mango I mean, I would suggest adjusting play tactics a bit to see if that could help.
idle breach
to spam stitch pictures
robust mango
I dont even care about K/d i see a lot of people on here with 5.0 K/d that play support and assault and i have a 1.5 k/d with medic
idle breach
i got 1.46 kd
robust mango
i just want to be on equal footing, i want smgs to excel in a range that theyre designed to excel in
fallow cypress
You go smoke Granades and smoke gun?
fallow cypress
Same
robust mango
those smokes are meant for pushing and reviving
idle breach
i thought smg is useful enough in range, especially for medics
robust mango
they are not meant to secure 1 kill
fallow cypress
I agree
robust mango
thats a waste
idle breach
yeah
ionic girder
Depends.
robust mango
at close range SMGs should be scary to be up against
ionic girder
Environment.
idle breach
smoke is so versatile
ionic girder
Especially.
fallow cypress
You can smoke an enemy tank
robust mango
smgs are meant to excel at close range
ionic girder
You should if it's an open field.
robust mango
@fallow cypress thats different
fallow cypress
To get closer
robust mango
i dont put myself out to fight in open fields
ionic girder
And if securing that one kill opens a choke point to cap a point, then it was worthwhile.
fallow cypress
@robust mango true
idle breach
do you block the sightline of enemy by smoke?
idle breach
well