this doesnt include recoil changes too
#battlefield-legacy-titles
dense bone
trail furnace
DAMMIT
trail furnace
I thought it was tomorrow
dense bone
btk and rof are like 80% of the performance
solid hinge
oh wait school
icy sluice
@solid hinge Kinda
dense bone
@solid hinge its closer to 5.0
trail furnace
I'm sad now D:
dense bone
"closer"
solid hinge
barely a nerf to semis
icy sluice
I suggest looking at the charts
trail furnace
It's ALMOST a complete revert
solid hinge
the turner is back
dense bone
ehhhh
solid hinge
i think itll be better
dense bone
we will have to see how it plays out
solid hinge
true
If there isnt a secret semi nerf I will genuinely cry after being blasted to death by semis 5 lives in a row
dense bone
id much rather have an SMG meta over SAR meta
gray glade
i have a feeling the suomi and thompson users might be upset considering the recoil increases
dense bone
i was hoping dice would leave the suomi alone so i could see how many people defaulted to that after 2a changes
dense bone
see how many people are even slightly educated
icy sluice
You're a minor
icy sluice
If I get Playstation Plus, I can
coral fiber
😳
icy sluice
I have the game on Playstation
solid hinge
getting it again tomorrow right in time for the update
coral fiber
Update is on Thursday
coral fiber
Oh diff time zone?
icy sluice
Although, Way's tags were the most dramatic so far
coral fiber
Ah ok
icy sluice
Dunkie's tags were just funny :p
coral fiber
Bruh this mf took my tags and was so confused
coral fiber
You genuinely scared me
icy sluice
Our animation happened in fuckin' mid-air
We had a Dragon-Ball Z moment for like a second
or Mortal Kombat if you want to remember about Armageddon
solid hinge
pew slap pew pew slap
solid hinge
sacrifice for the teabag
icy sluice
Yeah
main grove
WHERE
midnight nimbus
6.2 is closer to 5.2.2 than 5.0 in actual dmg output
icy sluice
They're in the Weapon Adjustments Community Broadcast
midnight nimbus
for most guns at least
dense bone
did dice revert ttk?
shy badger
dense bone
i honestly feel like 6.2 was balancing and obvious weapon changes
midnight nimbus
worse balance than 5.0 💯
solid hinge
eehh
midnight nimbus
better than 5.2.2 ig, but that's not a high bar
gray glade
why worse?
midnight nimbus
6.2 shafts the low RoF guns pretty hard
keen elm
That's a hell of a high bar imo
solid hinge
mmhmm
midnight nimbus
5.0 is pretty much the best wep balance BF ever had
some of the best in FPS in general
solid hinge
i think 6.2 has the potential to be
keen elm
Nobody has played 6.2 yet
solid hinge
if things go swell
midnight nimbus
6.2 takes the minimal issues in 5.0 and makes them much worse
keen elm
You can't go ahead and call it bad like that lol
solid hinge
bruh what is you on
keen elm
Who?
solid hinge
kht
gray glade
at least try it out first
icy sluice
I think I'll prefer 6.2 over 5.0
steady sky
Anyone else's game freezing more than usual these days? I'm on xb1
solid hinge
its mostly gonna be the same as 5.0 until 50 metres or whatver
midnight nimbus
5.0 recoil is made to make low RoF SMGs better than high RoF past 20m, except they're now shafted by 20m 5BTK instead of 30m
dense bone
ehhh i kind of like 5.2
solid hinge
and i think itll be better but like we said we'll have to see
steady sky
ew
midnight nimbus
it's the same as 5.0 up to 20m lol
30m for ARs and MGs
and effectively no diff for semis
keen elm
Yeah kht you explain to me why that is, why the new damage models in relation to the older recoil aren't compatible in what is very close to a full revert to those old damage models
You can't.
You haven't played it, nobody has.
midnight nimbus
whew
dense bone
i dont want SAR meta =[
midnight nimbus
not close at all to a revert
steady sky
after 5.2 I was literally shit at the game, now that ttk is mostly fixed I am so much better. Coincidence? I think not.
gray glade
@steady sky im not on XB1, but wasn't there something in the patch notes about dice fixing freezing issues?
midnight nimbus
AR / MG damage models are still closer than 5.2.2 than 5.0
keen elm
Hold on, I have screenshots
midnight nimbus
same with a lot of SMGs
steady sky
has that patch went live yet? Cause I'm staring at a frozen screen rn :(
dense bone
i think people are just hoping its actually a revert and thats why that word keeps getting thrown about
ionic girder
@icy sluice Yeah, me too.
solid hinge
yeah but are not most fights relatively close range
gray glade
nah, it goes live on thursday @steady sky
ionic girder
My complaint about 5.0 was the decrease in recoil.
solid hinge
which is where the meat is
steady sky
Thursday needs to hurry
solid hinge
lol
keen elm
Nvm, can someone bring up that 5.0. v 6.2 comparison screenshots?
midnight nimbus
wishful thinking lol
icy sluice
Reddit actually loves these... surprisingly
ionic girder
@keen elm One sec.
keen elm
Nvm got it
ionic girder
Oh.
keen elm
Nah I got them
main grove
MMGs still don't look too amazing
dense bone
i mean, these are probably the same people that got mad fg42 took a bunch of bullets to kill at range when dice said its built for cqc
keen elm
Spoke too soon lol, didn't need to scroll up much
solid hinge
i got mad at that but only cus it was my baby
midnight nimbus
except 5.2 FG42 also killed relatively slow up close too
solid hinge
not for actual reasons
main grove
SLRs feel like they have fully reverted
steady sky
Me: is doing shit getting smashed by the enemy team having zero fun
Bfv: running beautifully
Also me: has the slightest resemblence of fun
Bfv: fREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEze
solid hinge
the what
dense bone
im not talking if fg42 is good or not or anything like that, just that people ignore dice saying a guns sucks at range, then they use it at range and get mad
dense bone
excessive or not dice told you exactly what it was
solid hinge
ya ik
dense bone
its like cooking a microwave burrito longer than the package says to and getting mad it got burned
main grove
Nah I feel Turner and MAS
gray glade
lol nyphon
main grove
Are gonne be the main ones
shy badger
m1g looks really good
dense bone
not only mad it got burned, but getting mad at the manufacturer, even though they literally told you what to cook it at
solid hinge
main grove
BAR no longer has the different damages so there's that I guesss
solid hinge
yeah but it was like they then also wrapped it in tinfoil just to be annoying
main grove
Hope fast ROF has fucktons of recoil
solid hinge
/ murderous
gray glade
the type2a did seem like it was nerfed pretty hard tbh
solid hinge
lol
main grove
Wait
solid hinge
?
ionic girder
I mean, it also brings into question like what range it's supposed to be effective at in comparison to the size of the map locations. @dense bone
Or like, if the time the package says to cook it at actually cooks the burrito all the way through instead of it being half raw still.
ionic girder
Because in a game where bullets don't react like real ones, the definition of what they are supposed to do is subjective.
solid hinge
kill people
midnight nimbus
tfw 6.2 ARs and MGs have effectively identical dmg models to 5.0 SMGs
ionic girder
Yes, but if it takes 100+ bullets to kill someone, they are lethal. Technically. @solid hinge
main grove
I mean I'm not bothered as long as recoil is back
severe jetty
Sooo
main grove
I'm more bothered about laser guns than low damage
ionic girder
By numerical value, they are lethal.
solid hinge
yeah i was just vibin
ionic girder
@main grove Yeah me too.
Learning to control recoil made the weapons more interesting.
solid hinge
far more
keen elm
@midnight nimbus you say that as if the smgs are still going to have their 5.0 damage models in THIS update
Which they of course aren't
main grove
At least most autos in a class don't have radically different damage
crystal blaze
If you continuously change firemode with the bar it just makes your hand look silly
main grove
Like STG44 did from other ARs
midnight nimbus
yeah, 6.2 SMGs are even worse kek
gray glade
they will be fine up close
ionic girder
No, but they are balancing by weapon class now instead of RoF.
gray glade
which is what dice intend for them to be
solid hinge
where they are supposed to be
ionic girder
Which makes more sense to me.
keen elm
I thought the smgs' power at range was a big issue in 5.0 lol
main grove
SMGs need to be kinda poor compared to other autos to make up for the bullshit class they're on
main grove
Guns have for the first time in BF very low initial spread
novel blaze
stg44
t2a
main grove
In older BF games it simply was almost impossible to even tapfire someone 75m with an SMG
novel blaze
no
solid hinge
no?
keen elm
I honestly sorta agree, i think that smgs being realistically weak weapons would be a unique and interesting addition, if only compensated for medic having other cool perks that balance out the class
main grove
SMGs will still kick ass close range
gray glade
checking all the sng's they are literally like 1 bullet more up to 100m
main grove
Like that's their purpose
solid hinge
making picking a class more important than a weapon
main grove
We'll wait and see what it feels like
keen elm
Of course
solid hinge
for a while ive been picking medic for getting kills which shouldnt really be there norm
main grove
Going off a spreadsheet alone isn't really a good idea of how it feels
ionic girder
I was the guy tap firing people at 50-95m with a Thompson.
keen elm
Nothing is for certain about how well balanced 6.2 is until we get first hand experience of it
ionic girder
Didn't usually kill someone at that range, but felt dirty the few times I would.
solid hinge
educated guesses though
keen elm
Yeah
main grove
I'm just worried that SAR meta is now gonna be stronger than ever
solid hinge
with the sten though i felt like i could tap fire from forever away
main grove
Since those guns have pretty much fully reverted
ionic girder
I mean, that's not really a bad thing in my opinion.
solid hinge
idk how i feel about it
ionic girder
BF maps are fairly large.
solid hinge
true
keen elm
@ionic girder he/she's right
dense bone
problem was that they would challenge people up close, med they were dominate, and at range they challenged bolts/SLRs
main grove
But lowering both RPM and damage is what made them horrible
ionic girder
According to the post I read the damage increased but RPM was lowered.
solid hinge
i just tried to read the charts but colours make it so i cant ayyyooo
ionic girder
Did I misread something?
dense bone
ayla said that 5.0 and 6.2 ROF for SARs are the same
main grove
257 would be far more fair than 300 when your gun can 3-3 at all ranges
solid hinge
might get misconstrued
ionic girder
Brb.
main grove
It would make using it up close kinda risky
360rpm can easily challenge most autos in the game
solid hinge
is there a chart that doesnt have those colours
keen elm
I agree jungle
That is, concerning
Disregarding skill requirements as a factor because it really isn't
main grove
And now those are the only guns that have been truly reverted
dense bone
welcome to hell
solid hinge
they should knock off some of the slrs firerate a bit but i think the damage will be okay
solid hinge
i meant sar
keen elm
I wish dice could release more rapid patches for changing stats and little things like it
severe jetty
dont you just hate camping AMR’s
dense bone
AMRs?
main grove
Bolts have faster velocities but they'll still always lose to SARs
severe jetty
Anti Materiel Rifles
dense bone
ahhh
keen elm
Nr, at camping has always been hard for me
dense bone
ive probably been killed by AMRs like 10 times tops
keen elm
I don't think AMRs have been touched in the slightest through this whole debacle
dense bone
they are rather niche
solid hinge
so in a way theyll be worse now
dense bone
lol yea
keen elm
Indirectly yeah
ionic girder
Or tank meta.
dense bone
at the very least we had a SAR meta for a full year...
keen elm
You could argue than an automatic weapon meta is worse because of the lower skill requirements
dense bone
SARs do not really require skill
solid hinge
thats part of why i prefered bfv
dense bone
if you think clicking faster is hard idk what to tell you
solid hinge
most games have full auto meta
keen elm
Against autos? I'd say semi autos do in fact have higher skill caps
keen elm
Much harder to keep on target
keen elm
With semi autos
dense bone
SARs are easier to keep on target because lack of HREC
keen elm
Than full autos
crystal blaze
Remember the support meta from late 2018
dense bone
if you thinking only having upkick is hard and pulling down is hard... idk what to tell you
keen elm
@crystal blaze no 😭
solid hinge
yeah but could you not just say that about full autos?
dense bone
you can
solid hinge
other than slight left and right
dense bone
thats why there isnt this "skill gap difference"
main grove
SARs were by far the most versatile weapons in the game
solid hinge
ok
main grove
They just fucked people at all ranges
dense bone
IF one is harder than the other, its not by much
main grove
With ease
solid hinge
i dont think one is really harder
keen elm
There is a skill gap difference when you're the majority of the playerbase and a potato
ionic girder
Isn't that their purpose?
dense bone
well im far from a potato so
ionic girder
To be lethal at mid to long range?
solid hinge
on console semi auto is definitely slightly harder but not by much
main grove
Unless they have much more significant V rec like they should have
keen elm
You as a potato get a crutch using powerful full autos instead of semi autos
solid hinge
lol
main grove
They’re gonna be the best weapons in the game again
solid hinge
i think the stg44 will still be pretty close to the top
main grove
Not really
solid hinge
it was ever since the beta pretty much
dense bone
stg44 is gonna get outshined by every SAR
solid hinge
i mean there is better
dense bone
ARs are basically dead 6.2
main grove
Most ARs now do the same damage
keen elm
Hopefully my trusty maschinengewehr can fend off the cursed sar meta
main grove
I was about to say how would ARs be dead they’re still decent then I remembered
The other option
dense bone
game is gonna basically be CQC smgs, SARs, and SLRs now
main grove
The far superior option
keen elm
Plus me, the only mmg main left
solid hinge
bruh
keen elm
If it has to be that way
inland notch
Battlefield 1?
solid hinge
what
main grove
At least I hope LMGs are back
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dense bone
if so ^
main grove
Like of course they not gonna be best weapons in game by far
inland notch
Do people play it still
main grove
But I want to use type 97 and 11 with decent damage
keen elm
That's what I'm talking about
solid hinge
is the 97's iron sights still weird
keen elm
The Lewis shouldn't outshine literally everything in the support class
oak heath
Is it me.. or is 2020 Been a fucking HACKERFEST?
keen elm
Or even most of it
solid hinge
wouldnt know lol
oak heath
I swear 2/3 rounds there is a hacker screwing everything up in the server
solid carbon
okay
main grove
I’d say they should add vote kick but that will just be abused
solid hinge
or be like mount and blade where nothing happens
solid carbon
just like admins would abuse their powers
ionic girder
RoF for SAR's is dropping.
solid hinge
yay
keen elm
Wait what
ionic girder
Hm, can't upload image.
solid hinge
if by dropping you mean increasing
main grove
No it ain’t
solid hinge
oh
main grove
It’s increasing
solid hinge
ousted
main grove
solid carbon
fookin liar
main grove
ARs won’t be used again not because they’re bad but because why use them over semis
solid hinge
oh i see why that would be confusing
oak heath
seems like it doesnt help to report anyone
solid hinge
different game
solid carbon
tell us something new
keen elm
Oh ok
solid hinge
300rpm for the hard hitters, 450rpm for m1a1 and agm, 257rpm for selb, 360rpm for turner/garand/mas/g1-5
same as 6.2
oak heath
dude was 160/1 2nd place on his team was 18/2
main grove
They’re the only guns getting a full revert
solid carbon
what about the m1a1?
solid carbon
oh sorry im blind
main grove
ionic girder
Sources? @solid hinge
tough lodge
The bar is 4-7 BTK no matter what rof
ionic girder
Because technically they are lower than 5.2.2 which would justify the "lower" tag they posted.
ionic girder
But nothing is posted on 5.0 RoF and I don't have a source on hand.
solid hinge
dude they're higher than 5.2.2
5.2.2 dropped them
http://robenter.com/
this site has like.. 4.2 stats on it or something
Basic enough to see the rpm
They did?
severe jetty
I ranked up and i cant unlock my weapon, how do i fix this?
cuz i want to use the ZH
solid carbon
ionic girder
._. Okay, double checked. @solid hinge You're right, sorry.
solid hinge
it's alright!
ionic girder
6.2 does raise them.
solid hinge
I only remember the semis so well because they were terrifying in 5.0
Looks like they're gonna be terrifying again
ionic girder
I would personally rather have terrifying SAR's than pea shooters though.
solid carbon
who uses the mg34 
tight rain
Tell us your discovery
ionic girder
But I'm also coming from R6S where one frame deaths are a feature, not an issue.
tight rain
The mg34 is the older worse brother to the 42
main grove
42 was a cheaper meme fire rate gun
34 could be used in tanks thanks to its barrel swap
tight rain
The only real thing the 34 had over the 42 came to vehicles
tight rain
The 42 is far better for infantry
scenic beacon
No u
mossy sluice
When is the update set to release
solid carbon
2 days
mossy sluice
Thank u
solid carbon
no problem
tough lodge
they delayed the release
solid hinge
wut
solid carbon
thats what we said
solid hinge
thats so gay
solid carbon
like anime
strong parrot
The Lunge mine now deals the correct amount of damage and is more consistent. @solid hinge "more" not always 
solid hinge
never forget running with the lunge mine and doing like 3 damage
solid carbon
i only use the lunge mine on solomon, dunno why
solid hinge
and doing it again and it's suddenly 50+ damage
ive only seen at mines get used on solomom islands
in great quantities too
pastel grove
They honestly work great on Solomon Islands
Also gotta love running lungemine as Support and resupplying yourself 
solid carbon
can you now destroy planes with the lunge mine?
strong parrot
you can RNG spawn near the d flag as a german too
solid hinge
germans get squat
strong parrot
its kinda stupid how much rng there is in the initial spawning locations lmao
sterile current
So MMG’s got faster TTK and that’s it.
Fine, it’ll make hip fire better.
4 shots to kill on all MMG’s.
That’s at 10m
Maximum 7 shots.
rotund beacon
Asked for help in a game in one of my other servers and was told I was garbage
keen elm
Meh, I like the trash hipfire, MMGs shouldn't be super versatile weapons and able to be rushed with very well
They're base defense
And should excel in base defense
Not so much in other areas
Maybe get rid of focused hipfire and allow standing ads, but keeping the awful recoil
Just so getting used to the hipfire barrel displacement won't be a thing, an annoying thing that I doubt many people really like
keen elm
They were also known as not being standard infantry weapons
solid hinge
I just bought battlefield 1 now we’re the hell do I get my red Barron plane
sterile current
So yes, now MMG’s will once again reign supreme in hip fire scenarios.
keen elm
The hell does that mean
proven acorn
are u tellin me every soldier isnt rambo?
sterile current
It means we’ll be able to kill fast again like before 5.2.
sterile current
Perhaps even better now,
keen elm
Exactly
solid hinge
I just bought battlefield 1 now we’re the hell do I get my red Barron plane anyone
tawny spear
Dice gonna collab with Valve or something
keen elm
Because mmgs aren't optimal for rushy, even cqc ranged combat
They aren't high capacity assault rifles you know.
sterile current
Yeah it’s risky, but if you know what you’re doing you’ll outgun SMGs and shotguns.
keen elm
Know what you're doing? What?
Controlling the recoil lol?
Lemme just hold down the vert and it's a laser beam!
Give it a little side to side, booyah
It's just a big smg yo
sterile current
Yeah that’s pretty much what it is,
azure vault
Yep, there it is. Dumbest shit I’ve read today.
keen elm
No. You're wrong. That is not possible.
solid hinge
Can anyone help me
keen elm
You're not actually telling me that you can make focused hipfire turbo accurate right?
That isn't a thing
It CANNOT be done
proven acorn
even then
meh at best unless you barrel stuffed
and with ttk decreases at range, gl getting that close
solid hinge
Can anyone assist me with this question
solid carbon
no
solid carbon
what can we help you with xb1?
solid hinge
I’m just wondering how do I equip my red Barron skin on battlefield 1 I’m new to bf1
solid carbon
spawn on any map with planes on it, click on the plane icon when is appears then you can click on customize
i think it was on the bottom left or right corner
solid hinge
Thx
solid carbon
cant remember if you can chage plane skins from the menu but i dont think so#
no problem
solid hinge
I should automatically have my emblem right
solid carbon
yes
solid carbon
no
solid hinge
Aww that sucks oh well
solid hinge
I bought battlefield v battlefield 1 and hardline since those were the only battlefields I didn’t have so I decided to buy it so I have all the current gen battlefields
solid carbon
nice, but i think hardline is mostly dead now
solid hinge
I hear hardline sucks is that true
solid carbon
some people loved it while some hated it
azure vault
accurate
solid hinge
I liked the beta that’s why I bought it
solid carbon
i really enjoyed hardline
solid hinge
I had fun robbing the banks lol
steady sky
never played hardline
solid hinge
What happened to the skin with the bandana on it
A green one for America
I saw it on the pacific trailer and a guy had it the other day lmao so idk
solid carbon
nothing new that you can see stuff in trailers that never made it into the game
or not yet
solid hinge
Hmm how do u get it lol weekly or boin
icy sluice
I believe you had to get the Chapter 5 Booster
Yep, Chapter 5 Booster
The other Booster had this outfit which I also use
solid hinge
Kek rip
icy sluice
I joined in the middle of the second sector on Pacific Storm as the Americans, ended up having 4k more score than 2nd in line
robust mango
all the SMGs pretty much got a recoil nerf
still absolutely no word on the recoil nerf for the STG44
sudden magnet
anyone have a platoon i can join?
coral fiber
Holy shit i am top 0.1%
main grove
reminds me of camo skins in bf1 putting the camo job on the bullets as well
coral fiber
Saw this in Azura's server and i thought it was funny
solid hinge
lime moat
are the servers shit or is just literally 0 people playing bf1
solid hinge
Gosh I really want to uninstall the game rn
Not enough space but 6.2 is around the corner r.i.p
@tribal wave it says qwertyujzd
jaunty plover
tribal wave
@lime moat for ps4 im pretty sure bf1 servers are dead
wind shale
evening lads
stable geyser
what if EA/DICE did a community cosmetics competition
wind shale
gas mask still wins
stable geyser
obviously
shell stone
So, since tomorrow is the 6.2 update, I've been trying out the 2A before it gets nerfed to hell
I like it tbh
night glade
ornate sail
@coral fiber 
dense bone
dont be pinging other guys
wind shale
pings are illegal
dense bone
i know our relationship is over, but its only been a few hours
light radish
is K bullet damage the base damage + a multiplier or is it a set value
ornate sail
keen elm
:c
ornate sail
wiggity wack yo
wind shale
im ready for medic to go back to being the hipster class
keen elm
I'm ready for mmgs being scary again
stable geyser
we should be pretty used to the incapable guys down at dice
ornate sail
I dont understand how they still struggle with this.
keen elm
I'll give them some credit dice, but boy they've made some mistakes
ornate sail
It's been 18 years.
stable geyser
some mistakes
ornate sail
I give Dice no credit. They get nothing.
keen elm
Have your opinion on dice, let me have mine.
crystal blaze
Does anyone use the s2
ornate sail
They'll get credit when I can run for one solid minute without getting hung up on my environment.
crystal blaze
The mmg
stable geyser
they gave a prosthetic limb to a female soldier (no offence)
they cant even drop an update on time
and they cant even run a server
icy sluice
I can understand prosthetics being used but how she used it, eh I dunno
EA holds the servers, not DICE.
stable geyser
ea/dice then
crystal blaze
I made an outfit that looks sort of like the reveal trailer woman but without the arm
keen elm
Should've been a female soldier with a wooden peg leg
icy sluice
I have too
keen elm
Like a pirate
crystal blaze
Lol
icy sluice
At least it's a time-period correct prosthetic
keen elm
How much more authentic that would've been, ironically
ornate sail
That peg leg would sure give you away in a building.
icy sluice
Wilhelm has prosthetics on his face... or what was considered prosthetics
ornate sail
Be a bitch to get around in Narvik with, too.
stable geyser
prosthetic limbs though nah
crystal blaze
Wilhelm is the phantom of the opera
icy sluice
ornate sail
Fjell? Forget about it. You're tumbling down that mountainside.
empty nymph
anyone playin bf1
icy sluice
!!lfg
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icy sluice
Tommy look pretty hehe
keen elm
@crystal blaze phantom forces you meant amirite
crystal blaze
I think the strap is going through the jacket
crystal blaze
Yes
crystal blaze
I like the m1928’s alternate iron sights
rotund beacon
I’m deleting 5
main grove
No if anything the “middle sight” is the charging handle
On the M1918 Thompson prototype there was no proper rear sight so the charging handle was used instead
light radish
yeah im confusing it cuz the prototype was used in bf1 for obvious reasons
light radish
im sad they didnt use the m3a1 grease gun
rotund beacon
Should I melt the disc or give to someone else so they can hate it too
light radish
that was the designation right?
solid hinge
bob just melt the disc and then give it to someone else
undone tusk
I wonder if they will add the M1A1 variant later on, it would have to be a new gun as the m1a1 doesn't work with drum mags
Or at least unmodified drum mags
crystal blaze
30 round mags
wind shale
i was reading the changes and realized ive been looking at the 5.0 values the entire time lmao
light radish
nice
wind shale
not sure if i like how the slower firing smgs do the same damage then the higher rof ones
i guess they do have way less recoil
solid hinge
That was always how it was balanced before
wind shale
ye
ittl be good
assault gonna be nutty once again
all those fotm player can get off my hipster class
verbal rose
stupid ass tryhards ruining everyones fun
nimble girder
JOIN BF1 SHOCK OPERATIONS SERVER ON GIANTS SHADOW
PC
WE NEED PEOPLE
fossil heron
So im level 19 in assault and it still has the combat role vehicle buster locked? Is this a bug?
queen canopy
What monkey business have I walked into this time
nimble girder
we need like 8 more people
stable geyser
it was inevitable
stable geyser
no
nimble girder
shut
nimble girder
pathetic
fossil heron
So any info on why im level 19 in assault but it wont unlock a lvl 8 combat role?
stable geyser
i had that issue
verbal rose
people in clans are such lowlifes
fossil heron
@stable geyser did they actually help?
fossil heron
Alrighty thanks. I hate game support because they always remind me of the comcast nipple rubbers from southpark
stable geyser
oof
solid hinge
stable geyser
fossil heron
stable geyser
robust mango
sad
solid hinge
beat your enemies to death
solid hinge
fuck bren
coral fiber
After 6.2 bren will be my friend again
icy sluice
I have been using SMGs a lot more lately
sterile current
For the VGO, S2-200, and MG-42 that means a lot of death for some players.
They VGO and MG-42 will be like large capacity SMG’s,
icy sluice
I think I have been getting really lucky with the Thompson's hip-fire spread
At about 30m-40m I got three consecutive headshots and the guy had an M1 Garand :p
sterile current
I was able to kill a guy hiding in a room from the balcony with the S2-200
With focused hip fire
Accuracy was terrible, but he died.
Even SAR’s are more than capable of downing someone in 6.2 via hip fire.
ornate sail
There is really nothing more infuriating than an AA tank camping it's main base.
sterile current
It’s doing it’s job.
ornate sail
It's being a bitch.
sterile current
Keeping aircraft and infantry out of it.
ornate sail
No infantry is going back there.
icy sluice
I was able to quickly take down two planes with a 40mm AA
However once I started running to the objective I saw 3 Zeroes flying in formation towards the AA I used to take the two of them down
ornate sail
2v1 as it is, then you throw an AA tank in the mix. Fucking drives me nuts.
icy sluice
Taking down planes now feels like that one section that's in every World War II campaign cough
heavy coughing every single one
ornate sail
Sounds like a nightmare.
prime pine
What would that change
coral shale
Reload + Using Medkit simultaneously
Very nice
icy sluice
It's just a 20km cube
uneven hollow
Prime map design right there
coral fiber
Yo holdup
Since both the bar and the fg have the same dmg values but that bar has a higher rof
Wouldn't that make it the best lmg? If not broken?
prime pine
It'd probably be like the m1907
coral fiber
If that's so then there's literally no reason to choose the fg over the bar
The 1907 is gunna shred
prime pine
We'll wait and see what it turns to be. The bar is already better than the fg42
Slow auto is also getting adjusted
coral fiber
I've spent some time thinking about the change and holy fuck some weapons are fucking broken
prime pine
Its got less range than the garand and turner
coral fiber
True but that rof
Oooooof
solid hinge
Yes i know im just stupid 
coral fiber
Looks like the BAR is gunna be my go to lmg for now on
Type 11 bullet velocity with the spec is literally faster than the buffed k98k
920m/s is literally hitscan lvl lol
solid hinge
lunge mine is OP
no just kidding
its not working
nobody uses it anymore
against vehicles at least
solid hinge
I remember when you could do good with any weapon
pastel grove
@coral fiber ranged assignments for Type 11 will finally be able to be done
is it seriously that fast though good fuck.
ionic girder
Oof, not used to aiming in BFV anymore.
rotund beacon
Never helped me
wild stone
Is the update out for PC?
dire lantern
"Fixed an issue with airplanes not taking damage when hit by shell projectiles" Are they talking about hitting plane rudder with AA?
dire lantern
Currently planes dont get hit when facing their tail to the AA so...
uneven hollow
Especially if your a Japanese pilot
Or a French boi
But idk if French bois could fly
wind shale
ramming something with a zero should do quadruple damage to compensate
equivalent to a 4000lb bomb
uneven hollow
But explosives size will be smoll
dire lantern
AA from 5.0 got buffed, fighters now too scared to make a strafe
wind shale
each shot from an aa should just be a fleiger volly
wind shale
because its coming out on thursday
sterile current
Thought it was tomorrow.
open surge
delayed
dire lantern
Nah i like the times when AA deals 3-4 hits to bomber
It gives fighter chance to survive
coral fiber
@pastel grove hell yeah it's fast
My top picks after reviewing 6.2 charts
Assault
Garand heavy, breda, G 1-5, 1907 SF
Medic
Any other smg besides the 2A
Support
BAR, FG, Type 11
Recon
K98k and trench carbine
solid hinge
correct
there is no such date for this 6.2 update
instead it's coming soon
battlefield: coming soon
the new identity for the franchise
gas masks and things that will come soon
coral fiber
Garand heavy is gunna be stupid good
solid hinge
it just gives you one less shot to kill a person at 100m or more
coral fiber
Type 11 after velocity buff with spec will literally be instant so yeah
coral fiber
There's no reason to pick FG42 over the BAR since they both have the same dmg values but the BAR has a higher rof
wind shale
medic gets its one patch of being the strongest class in the game rip
coral fiber
It's still gunna be stronk
wind shale
ye
coral fiber
Just less 2A'y
wind shale
its just not number one
which is good
fotm players can get off my class
all the classes are going to be pretty good tbh
now that recon got buffed
coral fiber
I mean
wind shale
real change that matters is trench carbine pack at 3 bullets melee range
all players will fear my peestol
wind shale
im thinking im just gonna play recon for an entire week
get back to where i used to be
wind shale
ill still be maining recon/medic but
now i can play other stuff when it gets stale
except for shotgun memeing ofc
coral fiber
Oh no shotguns are shit after this patch
coral fiber
They're keeping the 5.2 values with 2 or 3m less of the ohk range
wind shale
which is what youre really aiming for lets be real
coral fiber
It actually feels good to actually know weapon dmg values for once
I never took it to consideration until this whole TTK mess came up XD
coral fiber
It's not that terrible
coral fiber
5.0 smgs were good
stoic breach
Where did you find the damage values?
wind shale
coral fiber
6.2 here
coral fiber
Hold up lemme embed that cuz my photo is trash
stoic breach
Thats still shit
stoic breach
Compared to 4BTK at 50m that let it compete with SARs
coral fiber
This is 5.0 dmg values
Holy shit it was 4btk up to 50m???
Well damn it is kinda shit then
Still not as bad at 5.2.2
coral fiber
I'll still use it tho ngl
stoic breach
Also M2 Carbine being 5-7BTK is super competitive
coral fiber
Yep
stoic breach
By 5.0 standards, not 6.2
coral fiber
Considering it actually has recoil now
stoic breach
That kind of sucks though
coral fiber
The type 11 having 920m/s bullet velocity it just atrocious
stoic breach
M2 Carbine with no vrec but worse hrec than M1907 would've been balsy but better for balance
midnight nimbus
M2C recoil is pretty shit for what it is
coral fiber
The M1907 i feel like is gunna be good
But that Garand heavy dmg looking pretty spicy tho
stoic breach
Garand heavy still could've easily been 3-3BTK
Considering its not exactly possible to spam fire at 100m and hit all of your shots consistently
coral fiber
Yeah i guess
stoic breach
It would at least make damage against injured targets more uniform at long range
coral fiber
3-3?
stoic breach
It was 3-3BTK in 5.0
stoic breach
Lol
That was Dice's attempt at recreating Bad Company
At least now the BAR will have uniform damage between low rpm and high rpm
Thank fuck
Thats exactly what I wanted from the gun
Now you wont need two seperate muscle memories for low/high rpm
solid hinge
dice just made mg34 more powerful than mg42 lol
stoic breach
If the FG42 has less hrec it'll be better than the BAR because of minmax
MG34 was better than MG42 in 5.0
Nothing has changed
solid hinge
yeah which is good, razen
wind shale
therefore it is superior
yeah mg42 will be popular just because its iconic
just like the m1 garand and stg
stoic breach
Its still not really amazing
coral fiber
solid hinge
i feel like zh29 with detachable mag upgrade is extremely powerful
wind shale
it is
stoic breach
^ the reason DDAY will never be a good map
solid hinge
i went 107-23 on pacific storm with it
wind shale
5 btk max with that volume of fire would be turbo aids to play against
stoic breach
You probably did that well because nobody can see anything on Pacific Storm
It wouldnt be too bad if the rest of the game could support it
solid hinge
true i made a rally point in the bushes at the last sector behind the two points
stoic breach
The lack of information you get while playing BFV stops weapons from becoming too competitive
wind shale
i honestly dont mind doritos and the spotting
the visibility is absolutely horrendous on some maps
wind shale
flares punish campers
stoic breach
If player cosmetics had better colour contrast it would be alright
wind shale
for which there has to be a decent counter
solid hinge
the grass and bushes look fucking terrible in this game
stoic breach
Yeah, flares are fantastic for campers
But the game also needs delayed minimap spot when you fire your weapon
solid hinge
if pubg can update their graphics, why cant dice do the same thing?
wind shale
i feel like most players dont get
the spotting you get when scrolling over an enemy
is only for you and nobody else
stoic breach
Graphics arent important if they arent correlated to gameplay
Yeah lol
The personal spot is really really good as well
coral fiber
Gameplay > Graphics
stoic breach
Helps cut through visual clutter
stoic breach
I would love it if enemies within 7m or so would get a red outline
wind shale
eh