battlefield-legacy-titles

[soft storm]

Until next December

[proven acorn]

Or have better range/damage than other shotguns

[soft storm]

When they decide it’s time for round 3

[proven acorn]

Because ya know. 2 shots then reload

[raw orbit]

bug bingo for 6.2?

[solid hinge]

Half the time you have to blow both barrels on one target as well

[proven acorn]

Yep

[solid hinge]

So 3.3 second reload per kill

[proven acorn]

Even when you ads

[solid hinge]

meanwhile 50 mag tommy has a 2 second reload and a longer range than every shotgun

[soft storm]

Because shotguns can instant kill and that makes the timmies mad

Dice can’t have timmies be mad

[raw orbit]

do shotguns like physically spread more when you fire them rapidly?

[proven acorn]

No

[solid hinge]

Shotguns can't even kill people behind cover

They're abysmal for pushing

[proven acorn]

Yep. It's easier to corner camp

[solid hinge]

No idea why they get no headshot multiplier

[proven acorn]

Can you imagine being rewarded for your skill?

[coral fiber]

@solid hinge shotguns are fine

How does it 2 shot within 5m lol

[soft storm]

No they aren’t

They’re ass

[coral fiber]

I've never had that

Rip bodie's M37 then

[raw orbit]

love that they have no headshot multiplier but the game doesnt tell you anywhere and it still gives you the headshot colour on your crosshairs

[proven acorn]

I'd rather have the bf4 shotguns. More damage and less pellets

[raw orbit]

[proven acorn]

P sure the shotguns are vented and rifled too because they spread like crazy

[coral fiber]

Make shotguns ohk up to 10m
With slugs up to 15m

Yes

[proven acorn]

The m30 specifically needs some work

12 auto with slugs is already nasty af

[main grove]

M30 needs a much faster reload

[proven acorn]

Faster reload and less spread

[main grove]

Fucking Lewis reloads faster than M30

[proven acorn]

And a bit higher damage so you can kill someone farther away than 2 feet

[strong parrot]

What's faster.. breaking open a finely engineered German shotgun to reload or taking a new 50 round nipon magazine and putting it into your smg

[proven acorn]

Shotguns are impossibly hard to reload

[wind shale]

heavy buckshot really needs to just not exist

and that should be the default kill range

[main grove]

Most shotgun specs should be default properties

[proven acorn]

Flick down the barrel, clean the gun and shine it, engrave the wood stock, inspect the ammo for flaws. Only then can I gently slide it into the gun

[main grove]

Like penetration and heavy load

And solid slug

[proven acorn]

And full chokes

[main grove]

All these specs just waste spec spaces

[proven acorn]

Why slugs?

[main grove]

Solid slug is a spec that goes with slugs

That increases headshot damage

Another thing that should just be a natural property

[wind shale]

shotguns just need a rework

[proven acorn]

Meh, the bullet velocity is so slow I just go for body shots

[soft storm]

No remember they need to have gimmicks that add onto gimmicks

[wind shale]

trench is just a straight downgrade compared to 12g and 37

[soft storm]

HEY

[wind shale]

drilling reload is ass

[soft storm]

Don’t insult my trench

[proven acorn]

12g is often more effective than the m30

[main grove]

12g should be like BF1

Where it’s a 2 shot with 257rpm

[wind shale]

give the trench the range of the 870

[main grove]

But has a tighter spread than other shotties

[wind shale]

from bf4

there we go

[robust mango]

the model 37 is unreal

[main grove]

I thought they balanced the model 37 as if it was already 6.2

And other shotties were just due a buff

[proven acorn]

M37 is weird

[main grove]

While that remained

[proven acorn]

Why tf is the spread so tight?

Why is the base pellet damage so high?

[main grove]

M37 should have the widest spread IMO

While drilling has the tightest

[proven acorn]

Why arent all shotguns like that?

[wind shale]

drilling and trench should have the longest ranges

def

[main grove]

Maybe M37 has less pellets than others

[proven acorn]

Nope

[wind shale]

m37 can take bayonet without losing heavy buckshot

therefore its the best shotgun

[main grove]

I swear I thought model 37 was gonna be some big chunky slow pump action

[proven acorn]

M37 had 32 pellets with 11 base damage that quickly falls off at 3m

[main grove]

While Trench was gonna be the fast one

Like BF1 model-10

[raw orbit]

petition to make slugs drilling damage model 1-2 btk

[main grove]

To BF1 Trench

Slugs I think should be 1 up to 15m 2 up to 50 and 3 beyond

[raw orbit]

drilling got 2 shots and a foreverlong reload so 2btk max is justified imo

[coral fiber]

These are probably gunna be boins only so rip my money

[main grove]

Drilling shot should be one up to 20

[proven acorn]

That would be obnoxious

[main grove]

Or just say fuck it and make it 1-1

It takes the piss to load anyway

But only on upper body

[hot drum]

@coral fiber nope ugly af

[main grove]

I mean those flags are hard to see because of the fugly lighting

[gray glade]

i kind of like the flag ontop of the tank, it looks good, NGL

[sweet fulcrum]

imagine the Model 81 (Model 8 extended) from BF1 coming back to BFV

[queen canopy]

The model 8 doesn’t belong here anyways

[violet finch]

@coral fiber. I hope not eversince I saw the destruction of Rotterdam trailer I've wanted the falg for the German tiger

[main grove]

There was an image of it in the armoury months ago

The model 8 extended

[raw orbit]

WHERES THE SJOGREN ALREADY

SDAFIOJUHFS;IOHJUBSDFGBUOJS

[sweet fulcrum]

YEAH RIGHT

[main grove]

I want another bolt

Like M1917 Enfield

[sweet fulcrum]

I mean Dice is swedish, aren't they proud of such beautiful shotgun

[main grove]

That’s been in files since forever

Or they could add this

[sweet fulcrum]

The G41 (M)

[queen canopy]

What’s that?

[main grove]

It would switch from SLR mode to bolt mode

[sweet fulcrum]

man i would like that thing

[queen canopy]

What like the general Lii?

Liu*

[main grove]

Yes

[icy sluice]

Currently at like level 31 or so in the TOW :p

[sweet fulcrum]

more or less yes

[main grove]

Is that a ten round mag?

[sweet fulcrum]

yes

[raw orbit]

m1916 berthier 👏

[sweet fulcrum]

is that the 5 rounder berthier, the carbine, which one i don't remember

[main grove]

So in its bolt mode it would be like the Lee but maybe slower rpm for faster velocity

While SLR mode it will just be like a slightly worse G43

[toxic pilot]

you know it's bad when i'm top of my team

[raw orbit]

oh m1916 is carbine

i meant

mle1916

🙂

[sweet fulcrum]

oh ok

[main grove]

I want MAS38 SMG

[raw orbit]

fuckit add both

carbine for meds

[main grove]

MAS 36 would also be nice

[sweet fulcrum]

just add back the Lebel whenever we get a french faction

and the Chauchat

[raw orbit]

🙏

[solid hinge]

So if we got an EU western front I have an idea of what they could add

[main grove]

I wanna see more gadgets

[solid hinge]

D-Day
Market Garden
Hürtgenwald
Winter Ardens offensive

[main grove]

Like einstoss

[sweet fulcrum]

Panzerschreck

[main grove]

Mini flamethrower

[solid hinge]

The Germans had a pocket flamethrower

[raw orbit]

the bulge 🙏

[sweet fulcrum]

oh yeah the monouse flame pistol thingy

[main grove]

I swear to god twisted steel is not meant to be France they just retconned it

[solid hinge]

The Germans also had a pistol grenade launcher

[raw orbit]

twisted steel is netherlands??

[main grove]

It was meant to be Netherlands 1944

[sweet fulcrum]

but we already have it

[main grove]

It looks just like an operation market garden map

[solid hinge]

Not really the thing is

[main grove]

But then they were told to do this dumb little chronological thing

[solid hinge]

Market Garden would be like a huge massive bridge with a river in the middle

[main grove]

So they retconned it to be France

[raw orbit]

rlly

[main grove]

In the prologue

[solid hinge]

Market Garden would have a bridge like the one in the last tiger where it gets blown up.

[main grove]

There’s a scene that portrays market garden

And it’s literally just twisted steel

[sweet fulcrum]

how do you think the Welrod will get balanced whenever we'll get it

[solid hinge]

I am not sure about it because we already have a meme pistol

[raw orbit]

shit damage past 1 meter

obv

[solid hinge]

But the Liberator is honeslty even bad for a meme pistol.

[main grove]

Either 2 shot kill up to a fair distance which would be bad

Or one shot up to 6m or something

Which wouldn’t be that bad

[sweet fulcrum]

I mean, it's manually operated so it could have a good damage model to balance, like idk a slightly worse obrez

[main grove]

It’d cycle faster than obrez

[sweet fulcrum]

so 1 headshot to kill up close

[main grove]

So I’d say it can do a bit less

[sweet fulcrum]

(also for the liberator imo it would be cool if it had a 1htk up close but whatever)

[main grove]

Liberator shouldn’t be a meme pistol like kolibri

Because IRL kolibri was a meme

It was built to be one

But IRL liberator was dead serious

[tight rain]

It should 1 shot in the back

[sweet fulcrum]

well the kolibri had killing potential (thanks to its 5x headshot multiplier, making it a 4htk cqc)

[main grove]

Meant for French civilians to kill their German occupiers

[solid hinge]

You know that irl you cant die by a Kolibri

[main grove]

With one point blank .45 bullet

So they can take their guns

[sweet fulcrum]

@solid hinge bleed out would be the only possible way

[solid hinge]

It's so weak that you have a larger chance to die by choking on it than dying by one of its bullet wounds.

[main grove]

Tbh if I was a French person in 1944 I’d rather use a knife

Than liberator

Since they have about the same effective range

[sweet fulcrum]

why not a knorf

[solid hinge]

@sweet fulcrum Yes if it hit or lodged an artery.

[main grove]

But ones louder and needs to be reloaded

[sweet fulcrum]

@solid hinge yeah

[solid hinge]

2mm like

An airsoft gun can do more damage than that

[main grove]

I mean it still would do damage

[solid hinge]

Barely

[main grove]

But only on weak parts of the body

[solid hinge]

An airsoft gun or a bee sting would be more painful than geting shot by the Kolibri

[main grove]

You sure

[solid hinge]

Yes

[queen canopy]

h

[main grove]

Did it actually fire IRL

What was the performance

[sweet fulcrum]

while the kolibri carries a little more joules than an airsoft gun, it would still be worthless due to its ridicously low mass

[solid hinge]

Yes

Exactly

[sweet fulcrum]

i think it's like 3 or 3.5 joules (at the muzzle obv)

[solid hinge]

4

It was 4 jules

[sweet fulcrum]

right

[main grove]

It’d make a good torture device

[solid hinge]

Yeah for tickling hahaha

[sweet fulcrum]

i think any type of winter clothing should be more than enough to block it completely

[solid hinge]

Yeah Soviet Winter coats could protect you from this

Unlike the MP40 protection myth

[proven acorn]

They can protect u from shotguns in bfv too

[sweet fulcrum]

@solid hinge wat

[main grove]

They can protect you from MG42 bullets at 100m too

[solid hinge]

Some Soviets whore double winter coats because they thought it can stop MP 40 bullets. @sweet fulcrum

[sweet fulcrum]

mfw

[proven acorn]

Just use the lewis gun and sit back

[solid hinge]

Ewww

[sweet fulcrum]

1. how did they get two winter coats
2. who the hell would think it's a good idea for bullet protection

[solid hinge]

That gun is so ugly

[main grove]

Bet you can’t fit the Lewis gun barrel in your mouth

[proven acorn]

But viable at least

[main grove]

(In shroud)

[solid hinge]

Golden STG is like a Golden AK 47=Perfection

[proven acorn]

Better than the nerfed fg42

[solid hinge]

Just use tha weird box MMG

[sweet fulcrum]

imagine right rpm pre-5.2 FG42

[solid hinge]

That American thing is so ugly

[sweet fulcrum]

man it would kick but man it would shred

[solid hinge]

That box MMG

And it has such a long name

M1 blah blah blah

[proven acorn]

That's most us guns

[solid hinge]

I never see anyone use the STG or the Mg42

Neither the Arisaka

Or the MP40

I mean I dont die very often by other infantry tbf

[robust mango]

the m1 garand is good but it has room to be better

[solid hinge]

True

I use it with a Bayonet

Super fun

[robust mango]

Yeah I mean the bolt actions right now are on their way to getting a buff

And they deserve it

[wind shale]

mp40 is chad

[robust mango]

Suomi and MAB is better

[wind shale]

neither of those are in the same classification

its probably the best balanced smg behind the emp

[sweet fulcrum]

EMP uber alles

[solid hinge]

enjoy the mp40

[rich moon]

6.2 out yet?

[solid hinge]

it'll go back to not being great in 6.2 if it's like 5.0

[robust mango]

Yeah the mp40 is going to be shit lol

[main grove]

MP40 isn’t amazing but it wasn’t awful

[robust mango]

Nobody even really uses it rn anyways

It’s still just not competing with the best smgs right now

[raw orbit]

i liked the mp40 before

[main grove]

It was just very similar to STEN
Easy as fuck to control to make up for low ROF

[solid hinge]

@main grove Make that an American with a Bazooka and then I will like that meme

[raw orbit]

it was like the SAR

now its just shit

[dense bone]

i miss mp40

thing was good at range but still held its own up close

[wind shale]

its now my 5th most used weapon

[main grove]

STEN and MP40 stood out for actually having no recoil in a recoil heavy game

It’s so easy to use

It just has a low skill ceiling

And that’s fine

[hot drum]

So twekin happenin camper will enjoy

[wind shale]

on this patch its mid range damage is actually pretty respectable

[robust mango]

The mp40 was good originally

Until you unlocked old Thompson

[main grove]

Like I felt far more comfortable using STEN/MP40 than Suomi back in 5.0

[robust mango]

Which was definitely one of the best hip fire smgs

[raw orbit]

mp40 isnt for hip firing tho

[wind shale]

if youre using the mp40 for hipfire youre on the wrong gun my guy

[main grove]

I spec STEN for Hipfire and MP40 for recoil

To be more like IRL

[wind shale]

best part of 6.2

light bolt zk coming back

[raw orbit]

slow zk lowkey was good

📠

t. mmg main

[main grove]

Slow ZK was just much better than MP34

Old MP34 needed a buff

Before it had slightly higher damage

But only at 75m

[raw orbit]

lol

[main grove]

That higher damage should make the difference at 25m or something

[hot drum]

Every damm smg can be hip fired

[main grove]

Not fucking 75m

[raw orbit]

mp34 was busted in 5.0 didnt you know smgs were sniping people at 100m+

maybe i should respec zk back to slow firerate before 6.2 comes out

i bet its actually decent

[main grove]

I mean most BF players are used to spread making it so it was actually pretty much impossible to be even hit at all by an SMG beyond 75m

The fact you can even land one shot makes people think that SMGs can snipe

[wind shale]

as opposed to semi autos

[keen elm]

they better fix my mg34

[wind shale]

which were actually sniping people at 100m

[proven hatch]

when are we ever getting a weapon in this chapter

[keen elm]

Oh you were talking about the mp34, whoops

[raw orbit]

he killed me at 30m with burst fire and recoil control 😱

[main grove]

MMGs should actually be designed for mid to long range

[proven hatch]

long range LMAO

[main grove]

A machine gun is meant to be a sniper by volume of fire

[keen elm]

Just mid range at the very least, and absolutely lethal at mid range

[solid hinge]

No @main grove

[keen elm]

But they should be relatively powerful at long range

[solid hinge]

Not from a balance prespective

[wind shale]

mmgs are food for snipers regardless

prone in the open lul

[robust mango]

@wind shale I was talkin about the Thompson

[proven hatch]

Basically

[keen elm]

CQC MMGs= stupid idea, dice, mg42.

[main grove]

IRL a machine gun was ideally a few hundred meters away from the enemy

[solid hinge]

I do already have no issue from mowing down people in the A flag passage in Fjel

[wind shale]

oh ye

[robust mango]

Mp40 was never hipfire

But Thompson def was

[wind shale]

ye i gtechu

[robust mango]

Ye

[royal gull]

Savior Patch is Tuesday?

[main grove]

If there was someone like 30m away when you were using an MG

[robust mango]

Savior patch for some

[main grove]

Then you’ve fucked it

[keen elm]

If I had my way, MMGs would have a lot more recoil, but a lot less stk at all ranges

[main grove]

MMGs need less recoil

[keen elm]

So if you hit something, it does some damage

[wind shale]

so

[main grove]

You are a massive target

[wind shale]

zk without light bolt has the exact same damage model as the balanced smgs

like the emp and mp40

[main grove]

You want to finish the 6 enemy jobs fast

[wind shale]

for whoever was wondering

[main grove]

Before they fire back

[robust mango]

I’m just very happy that I think the Lewis gun could be getting nerfed. A MMG needs less recoil because you’re at a higher risk of getting sniped when you’re laying down completely still vs strafe shooting with a Lewis gun and having a 100 round mag with no overheat

[solid hinge]

Thing is that MMGs irl are not the same as ingame. Irl is 1 bullet 1 kill. In this game people won't be affraid from rushing you or sniping you. @main grove

[keen elm]

Nah, MMGs/GPMGs irl have always been high recoil guns even with a bipod, their benefit comes from the powerful cartridges they fire that are extremely lethal at very long ranges

Yet, they are inaccurate weapons

[main grove]

Bipod should take longer to deploy but actually be consistent

[robust mango]

Yes

Agreed

[wind shale]

aiming the bipod in a window when a target is strafing from left to right

[keen elm]

What counts as a surface the bipod can be set up on should be more exaggerated

[solid hinge]

lewis is getting buffed if anything

[robust mango]

Honestly the MG42 has the worst bipod ever, it still kicks sometimes like I’m not even stationary

[wind shale]

and you zoom in and out like 5 times

[main grove]

Even before 5.0 bipods on most LMGs were pointless

[strong parrot]

Powerful cartridge...so just like the round that's in a rifle?

[main grove]

The recoil buff was small in comparison to BF1

[wind shale]

5.0 there were just better options for supp players then the lewis

same with the stg for assault

[robust mango]

The Lewis gun is just annoying as fuck

[main grove]

Not really in the case of Lewis

[wind shale]

it seriously doesnt need extended mags

[main grove]

97 rounds is too Fucking good

[wind shale]

thats honestly the only issue

[main grove]

Like most LMGs in this game are bad at supressive fire

[wind shale]

i wish quick aim didnt feel mostly useless on smgs

[main grove]

They’re all small mag fed things

[wind shale]

the difference is so tiny

[robust mango]

97 is way too much

[keen elm]

@strong parrot MMGs/GPMGs irl usually fire full powered rifle cartridges so yes

And most of the MMGs in game do

If not all of them

[robust mango]

The BAR gets a 10 round increase with an extended mag but a Lewis gun gains like 41-46 extra shots. What the fuck is with that

And the bar has much more kick than a Lewis

[strong parrot]

Bar doesn't have an extended mag

[keen elm]

Wait wait, a BAR with a 30 round mag?

This is heresy

[robust mango]

I think it has one

[raw orbit]

vehicle despawns while im taking cover behind it

[wind shale]

might be thinking of the wrong gun

[robust mango]

Doesn’t it have one in specs

[main grove]

25-30-97-20-20-40-20-25-30

[wind shale]

bar doesnt have extended mags

[main grove]

Those are the LMG mag sizes

[robust mango]

Really? I thought it had one in specs

Ooooh

[main grove]

Extended if availed is on

Look at those numbers

[keen elm]

Kinda redonkulous

The Lewis is literally an mmg with not garbage mobility

[wind shale]

i actually prefered the browning as an mmg in 5.0

actually a laser

[hoary condor]

Fun game

[gray glade]

m1922 prolly best mmg atm

[main grove]

Like most LMGs in this game are more or less automatic rifles than machine guns

[wind shale]

PHOTO OF THE SCREEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[main grove]

Kinda pointless distinction but it’s mine

[wind shale]

they have bipods

i guess thats the diff

doesnt the riby have a bipod

[gray glade]

m1922 is so accurate for that kind of rate of fire

and 150 rounds

[main grove]

Less suppressive and more just a way to magdump a quick burst of 20-30 rifle rounds

[keen elm]

I need to level up my m1922

[wind shale]

i dont think ive ever been killed by a 1922 vgo or ls26

[keen elm]

Never got to that 900 rpm

[main grove]

M1922 is stronk

[keen elm]

Too bad the mg42 is prettier

[main grove]

Before 5.0 and it was the most usable post 5.2

[wind shale]

mg42 is too mainstream

[keen elm]

Nein

[main grove]

M1922 when empty has a super fast reload

[wind shale]

only hipster guns

[keen elm]

NEINNEINNEINNEIN

[main grove]

Just slap a belt in

It takes like 2.5 seconds

Prolly faster then the double barrel shotgun

[ripe pumice]

AN IDIOT JUST DESTROYED A PAK40 CANNON THAT HE COULD'VE USED AGAINST US

XD

[keen elm]

Cash money

[wind shale]

wish people would blow bridges on breakthrough more

[ripe pumice]

i always blow the bridges

[wind shale]

or build tank barriers even

[hoary condor]

@solid hinge that server is lagggy

[robust mango]

Is the Type 97 a reliable LMG?

[hoary condor]

and dead

[robust mango]

I haven’t tried it yet

[ripe pumice]

i build tank barriers

[raw orbit]

nah slow zk is shit

💩

[solid hinge]

M1922 is 6btk up close in current ttk

not exactly peak

[hot drum]

@hoary condor wait RUSH? check your screenshot next map and mode

[hoary condor]

it was dead

[wind shale]

close range effectiveless is meaningless when you get noscoped by a boys at

[main grove]

I mean it's better than MG34

Bodie managed to do well with it so i dunno

[keen elm]

Wondering what the m1922's nation of origin: "it has an m in it so it must be American!"

Looking up its nation of origin: https://youtu.be/BFxZ15xXVRk

[main grove]

It’s either modelle or mitrailleur

1922

[keen elm]

What

[sweet fulcrum]

it has an m in it so it must be American!
M91/30 has entered the chat

[main grove]

M1900

[icy sluice]

Because I am showing offline on Xbox, it doesn't show that I am playin Battlefield V on discord

[main grove]

M1903

[icy sluice]

Okay when typing that it got fixed lmao

[main grove]

The pistol

Well it was American

just manufactured in Belgium

[sweet fulcrum]

M36 (tunic)

[keen elm]

M36 is a tunic?

Like, a shirt

[wind shale]

oh no

french weapon

[sweet fulcrum]

the classic german tunic

[wind shale]

throw it in the trash

[sweet fulcrum]

beuh

[robust mango]

@sweet fulcrum It has a 9 in it, so it must be german!

[keen elm]

MG42

[sweet fulcrum]

M9

[keen elm]

MG34

MP34

[robust mango]

k98

[keen elm]

Isn't that French though, the Mauser 98?

[sweet fulcrum]

P90

[keen elm]

OI

[sweet fulcrum]

uhurb

[keen elm]

WWII GAME

[robust mango]

Gewehr 95

[pastel grove]

Mauser 98 is German

[robust mango]

Yes

[keen elm]

Ok nvm then

Idk why I thought it that lol

[robust mango]

Actually the Germans had a lot of 4’s in their weapons and such

g43

[keen elm]

You're jinxing yourself

[robust mango]

FG 42

[hoary condor]

this game............

[keen elm]

Or maybe not

[pastel grove]

Also longass names

[robust mango]

And there was the G41

Mp40

[pastel grove]

Fallschirmjägergewehr 42

[robust mango]

And so on so forth

Yea

[pastel grove]

Volksturmgewehr

[sweet fulcrum]

G41 (M)
G41 (W)

[keen elm]

MaschineGewehr 42

Hot

[robust mango]

Mg34

Yeah a lot of 4’a

[keen elm]

Yes the 34 is also very hot

[robust mango]

And the PANZER IV

[keen elm]

MW made me love the mg34

[robust mango]

Too bad no tiger IV

[sweet fulcrum]

EMP44

[keen elm]

Idk why, its got that reliable charm to it

[robust mango]

Was the MAB an Italian gun?

[pastel grove]

ye

[robust mango]

How come it was so damn reliable

[ripe pumice]

A surprise to be sure

[sweet fulcrum]

hey, beside the infamous Breda Modello 30, italian guns of the period weren't particularly bad

[pastel grove]

But a welcome one

[low totem]

tank body customisation

finally

sandbag churchill time

[ripe pumice]

Ah , i see you're a man of culture as well @pastel grove

[low totem]

mobile pillbox

[icy sluice]

I wonder, do you run faster bayonet charging or katana?

[hoary condor]

glad they nerfed the type 2a

[sweet fulcrum]

half an A press

[main grove]

Germans had a lot of 4 in the name of their guns because like 95% of the war happened in the 40's

Americans would have as well if they didn't change the way they named guns

[robust mango]

I think you run faster with katana

[main grove]

From the year it was introduced to just

[low totem]

M2

[main grove]

M and then what iteration of that gun

[low totem]

or M3

[gray glade]

also right clicking with katana has longer reach than left clicking

[sweet fulcrum]

M3 carbine when

[main grove]

So first standard issue rifle

M1

[robust mango]

Katana is actually pretty balanced imo

[main grove]

Third SMG

[sweet fulcrum]

also where is the M15 rifle

[main grove]

M3

Second carbine

M2

[robust mango]

If you’re good at hiding you can easily kill an entire squad with the katana

[low totem]

americas naming system, causing logistic issues since 1942 ™️

[main grove]

Funny that america is only on its 4th carbine

M4

[robust mango]

Medic and katana is the best combo

Since unlimited heal

[wind shale]

when you slide under a shotgun blast with a katana

[gray glade]

i kind of like flamethrower with medic too for the same reason

[pastel grove]

Honestly yeah

[robust mango]

Yeah medic and flamethrower is very strong

[pastel grove]

Also if some dumbfuck teammate walks in front of you, you set yourself on fire

[robust mango]

And make sure you have a medic near you

[pastel grove]

So it's good to be a medic while using flamethrower

[main grove]

Imagine if it was the M1937 Garand

[sweet fulcrum]

how's the M16 the 16th rifle

[pastel grove]

@main grove bad vibes

[robust mango]

The model 37 shotgun seems unreal to me

It fires so fast

[main grove]

M1944 grease gun

[robust mango]

Barely even notice it’s a pump

[pastel grove]

[robust mango]

I think I still have 100% accuracy with the model 37

[pastel grove]

Honestly yeah the Ithaca 37 really feels like a semi-auto shotgun

[main grove]

M1964

[solid hinge]

Hello there!

[main grove]

Iconic American AR

Used in Vietnam

Wait they did actually name their grenade launcher after the year

M79

[hoary condor]

STG 44 still isn't nerfed

[main grove]

Wait no

It was introduced in 1961

So why the fuck is it the M79

[pastel grove]

Japanese weapon designations are interesting and usually inconsistent

Sometimes it uses imperial calendar year

Other times it uses Meiji year

[main grove]

Don't tell me America went through 78 previous GL's

[pastel grove]

I think even some used Shōwa years

[main grove]

Yeah

You got Type 11

And then Type 99

[robust mango]

i think it will be nerfed on Wednesday @hoary condor

[main grove]

It''s all over the place

[robust mango]

is the type 97 good at all?

[pastel grove]

And of course the Type 100

[hoary condor]

this patch...

[robust mango]

or is it outclassed by lewis gun

[main grove]

Which one?

[hoary condor]

like the rest...

[main grove]

MG or tank

[pastel grove]

Yes.

[robust mango]

the MG

[main grove]

I'm assuming MG

[robust mango]

ye

[pastel grove]

Was thinking of the SMG but

[main grove]

It's ehhh

[pastel grove]

Either one ngl

[main grove]

Don't really get used to it now

[pastel grove]

[main grove]

Wait until 6.2

[robust mango]

im not even going to really use it for now

im sticking to my normal guns until i see how the rest play out

[main grove]

Right now it's just like a slightly worse KE7

[pastel grove]

also Type 100 is the funniest shit ever

[main grove]

100 was 1940 wasn't it?

[robust mango]

type 100 kind of hilarious yea

[pastel grove]

Imagine making something the Model '99. So the next would be the Model 2000 right?

But Japanese naming went for 100 instead

Imperial calendar year was like, 2599 in 1940 or some shit

[wind shale]

[pastel grove]

So instead of making it "Type 600," they went for 100

2599
'99
Type 99
Type 00? Nah
Type 100

[strong parrot]

[pastel grove]

Oh hey Bmac

Even the Japanese writing of the Type 100 doesn't use the Kanji for 100

Instead it uses ー〇〇

[main grove]

Also Is it just grammar reasons why it's "type" and not "model" or something

[robust mango]

so is the ZK the weapon of choice that people will be using for medic or the suomi

im thinkin suomi

[pastel grove]

iirc it translates more directly to "model," but for some reason they're called "Type" in English.

[main grove]

Like because it sounds like y'know

A dumb simple way to say variant or model

[pastel grove]

Translation errors basically

Still not as silly as German weapons sometimes

Gewehr 41 is just

Gun 41

[wind shale]

suomi was the highest performing smg in 5.0

along with the tommy

light bolt zk is good but doesnt get hipfire specs like the other 2 @robust mango

[main grove]

Gewehr in german can mean rifle but it can literally just mean gun as well

[pastel grove]

Yeah, rifle is more appropriate now that you say that

Still, Rifle 41 just sounds odd

[main grove]

Languages have different ways of differentiating ways of saying something

[wind shale]

thats how us shouldve done it

none of this m2 carbine shit

just 'gun 2'

[main grove]

Like some other language might be hyper specific on something compared to english

While some might be more lenient

Yeah because I think in german if you call a handgun a gewehr

[robust mango]

i feel like the specs for the suomi are kinda backwards tho

[main grove]

You'll get some confused looks

[pastel grove]

Yeah a handgun is definitely not a gewehr

[robust mango]

you cant really pick up the big hip fire increase for suomi because you want the extended mag for it

[main grove]

It does translate better as rifle

Machinegewehr would literally translate as machine rifle

[pastel grove]

Fallschirmjägergewehr would be paratrooper rifle

Which isn't horrible at all actually

[wind shale]

having full hipfire specs with extended mags would be broke

[main grove]

However they don't have a version of Submachine gun

[robust mango]

true

[main grove]

They just say machine pistol

[robust mango]

thats why you just pick up the last hip fire spec

[pastel grove]

I guess they don't, huh

[robust mango]

the rest you kinda just get the accuracy and the quick draw

[pastel grove]

It's funny thinking of an SMG as a machine pistol

[wind shale]

light bolt suomi actually deletes people

like instantly

its hilarious

[robust mango]

LOL

do you recommend light bolt over the extended mag tho?

[wind shale]

nah

[main grove]

Most languages actually often say machine pistol

Russian does

[robust mango]

thats what i figured

[wind shale]

if you even run into more than 1 person youll be sorry

[robust mango]

exactly

[main grove]

They say pistolet polymuot

[wind shale]

unless there literally in melee

and you dont miss

[main grove]

That's literally pistol machine gun

[robust mango]

for suomi i usually go for specs

[wind shale]

smgs overall are pretty good in 5.0 balance

[robust mango]

left-right-right-right

[pastel grove]

French differentiates the two nicely

[wind shale]

is left ads or swings and swivels

[pastel grove]

Pistolet and mitraillette

[main grove]

Yeah french has a completely new word for machine gun

[solid hinge]

tommy and suomi light bolt specs are for the hipfire mainly

[robust mango]

its slings and swivels

[wind shale]

k good

[solid hinge]

small mag instant fire

[wind shale]

ads speed for smg is tiny

[solid hinge]

mp28 has the bigmag hipfire

[robust mango]

yeah its not worth it for a ADS speed up

[wind shale]

swivels will save your life

[robust mango]

its already a light gun

ye

[pastel grove]

It's kind of bizarre how the U.S. spontaneously shifted from years to M something

[solid hinge]

with slings and swivels the sprint to fire speed is incredibly small

[robust mango]

smgs have a good ADS time anyways

[wind shale]

its only really noticable on scoped guns

[solid hinge]

quick aim is always worth it if you mainly ADS

[robust mango]

yea

id prob use it on ZK

[pastel grove]

M1897
Springfield 1903
American Enfield 1917
M1917 MG
M1919 MG

Then you get shit like

[icy sluice]

Slings and Swivels helps the equipment swap speed

[robust mango]

quick aim is very good on AK

[wind shale]

zk specs are really weird

[robust mango]

ZK*

[pastel grove]

M1A1 Carbine

M1 Garand

[icy sluice]

So you can skeet-shoot better

[wind shale]

i mean i get why

[pastel grove]

M2 Carbine

[wind shale]

but still

[solid hinge]

I forget slings helps swap speed because it's such a minor increase

[robust mango]

i literally went full right on ZK

[solid hinge]

They should really buff it

[icy sluice]

It helps enough to be useful

[main grove]

Brits don't seem to have any naming convention at all

Or they do

And it's just so awkward

[pastel grove]

British weapon naming is honestly all over the place

[wind shale]

i wish accuracy while moving and speed while moving didnt feel like a requirement on EVERY gun that uses them

[robust mango]

actually i should go left and then full right

[main grove]

That they often just shorten it

[pastel grove]

Lewis Gun

Bren

STEN

[robust mango]

the lightened stock is just such a big percentage increase

you practically need to be mobile with ads on smg

[main grove]

BREN and STEN are short for something enfield

[robust mango]

just to make it work

[icy sluice]

Lightened Stock is so useful

[robust mango]

agreed

[zealous stone]

Badly Renamed ENfield

[coral fiber]

Brenfield

[main grove]

But their official names sound like

[coral fiber]

Stenfield

[robust mango]

quick reload on some guns is such a waste

[main grove]

Rifle,short,mark3.star.pattern

[wind shale]

im hype for trench carbine coming back

[main grove]

loads of commas

[robust mango]

most smgs quick reload is a massive waste

[zealous stone]

Stupidly Truncated ENfield

[wind shale]

its a waste for almost everything

tbh

[zealous stone]

nah nah

[robust mango]

even semis its a waste

[zealous stone]

some guns REALLY need a quick reload

[robust mango]

except for maybe the ZH

[pastel grove]

Wait, are they reverting the Trench Carbine?

[zealous stone]

I hate ZH users ngl

[robust mango]

ZH has a pretty noticeable difference

[wind shale]

it sucks how detachable mags are basically a requirement on the guns that have it

[pastel grove]

[main grove]

Big Rambunctious ENfield

[robust mango]

i hate ZH too dw

[main grove]

BREN

[pastel grove]

ZH reload actually sucks shit without detachable mag

[main grove]

It relys to much on detach mag

[zealous stone]

not unless you got EVASIVE MANEUVERS

[robust mango]

the weirdest specs is the jungle carbine

a random hip fire increase at the last spec

[main grove]

Jungle carbine can get a faster bullet

BUT NOT THE FULL SIZED RIFLE

REEEE

[pastel grove]

[wind shale]

i wish i could justify taking fire rate increase on the enfield

[robust mango]

yea they can but its not a massive difference

[wind shale]

not worth giving up aim accuracy and stuff

strafing way too important

[main grove]

I use enfield like brits used it anyway

[robust mango]

like the faster bullet for jungle carbine racks it up from 84 to 97

[main grove]

And pretend it's an MG

[robust mango]

while you miss out on lightened stock

[main grove]

Magdump with Lee

[robust mango]

def not worth

[main grove]

Do it

[robust mango]

might as well grab a lightened stock instead on the carbine

[pastel grove]

Hipfire with a bolt-action

Just fucking spray everywhere with the SMLE

[main grove]

If JC can go from 500 to 550m/s

New lee should get a spec

Opposite to the machine bolt

[robust mango]

the JC starts off with a HVB spec

[main grove]

That makes it go from 600 to 700m/s

[robust mango]

its the very first one

[main grove]

So you can actually build it for range

[robust mango]

the custom stock on the JC with the lightened stock pair is a monster

theres practically straight shot even while strafing

only problem is like you might as well grab enhanced grips on the JC because sometimes people charge you and its worth hip firing them, ive saved myself a few times with that

[wind shale]

whip out the jesus revolver

who needs a primary up close

[hoary condor]

lets try le firestorm

[wind shale]

🤮

[hoary condor]

i have always enjoyed firestorm

it's only gone downhill when dice was handed it over

[soft storm]

You mean

Like every mode that’s made by criterion and then handed to dice?

[cinder frigate]

anyone playing?

[hoary condor]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[gray moon]

What would be the channel to ask for help with an issue with BF1?

[hoary condor]

depends on the issue

but usually EA forums

[gray moon]

Not being able to get online within the game...

[hoary condor]

reset router?

[gray moon]

Fot internet and everthing..

Yeah did that twice

Rebooted 3 timss

Both game and ps4

[hoary condor]

ps4 is fine for me

[gray moon]

Changed DNs server settings twice

[hoary condor]

firestorm = cheaters

[feral glade]

firestorm = clan squatting

[solid hinge]

@hoary condor not for me lol

It’s a XLGN event

Too many good players in here

😂

[hoary condor]

Firestorm is shit

fortnite is better than this.. fuck.. remove firestorm

don't even make it free

it's not even worth it

[gray moon]

Fucking online fucking shithole

[hoary condor]

going back to fortnite

[feral glade]

@gray moon are you saying you cant get on the internet generally or just games?

[gray moon]

Simply BF1

[feral glade]

for both PC and ps4?

[keen elm]

I really hope this game starts to shine once 6.2 comes out

[gray moon]

Got internet and everything. Opening BF 1 says im offline. Trying to connect. No error or nothing, just no connection

Got bo BF1 on pc

No*

[hoary condor]

re-install bf1?

[feral glade]

firewall quarantined...perhaps?

[hoary condor]

[gray moon]

Firewall on a ps4?

[feral glade]

hmmm

[gray moon]

@hoary condor yeah and downloax 500 gb of updates

[hoary condor]

[feral glade]

hey are you trying to play while on discord?

[solid hinge]

Lightened stock is genuinely OP

60% faster movespeed while ADS is ridiculously good

[gray moon]

Me

?

[feral glade]

yeah

is discord open when trying

its a binary question...is discord open while attempting to play...yes ...no

[hoary condor]

yeah

[feral glade]

im thinking maybe the universal ailment discord overlay

tyey it with discord off

[gray moon]

@feral glade it wasnt at first

[soft storm]

Discord overlay doesn’t work with frostbite engine games

[feral glade]

close discor entirely

[gray moon]

Tbh joined this server because of the issues

Discord is open on my phone

[feral glade]

it effects my bf3 only

[gray moon]

Not on my ps4

And again, wasnt running when I tried it before

[feral glade]

ahh okay ..then you had issues before you opened discord?

[gray moon]

Yes,n that too

[solid hinge]

BFV Operations 😋

[feral glade]

okay ..elliminated that

[solid hinge]

Argonne 4k Operations made my eyes cry with joy

Nice and gritty

[feral glade]

there is also a origin overlay

you can turn that off and retry the game

[uneven hollow]

Operation

[gray moon]

Origin?

How

Again.. only on ps4..

[uneven hollow]

Bring back the original operation to bfv

[feral glade]

okay you go to your games library...right clic on bfv then select properties....

clic the origin in-game tab

then turn it to off

[lilac forge]

How tf ppl are so good on console? Is very hard to aim

I feel how my joystick fly

[feral glade]

they have auto aim enabled

[proven acorn]

o hi zen

[lilac forge]

Auto aim?

[feral glade]

hey hey rhon

[proven acorn]

Ye

[feral glade]

yeah...lol noobian aim

[uneven hollow]

Well assisted aim

[lilac forge]

Can u screen me where i can Find it please ?

[uneven hollow]

But yea

[proven acorn]

Pulls your crosshair to the enemy when you ads

[uneven hollow]

^ that’s pretty much it

[feral glade]

ive been out of game lately rhon...you too maybe?

im pn PC

@proven acorn You playing tonight?

[pastel grove]

I'm excited for tank customization

[coral fiber]

Sexy tanks

[balmy condor]

😩 👍

[coral fiber]

Me realizing they're probably gunna be boins only

But meh

[brave garnet]

Bottom one looks just like the last tiger skin

[coral fiber]

But with the flag

And stahelms

[solid hinge]

Wished it was the flag that's from underground map

[coral fiber]

Combine that with the current last tiger tank

😩👌

[brave garnet]

And there shit covering the commanders cupola, defitnitely not getting that on my cat

[coral fiber]

Oof there is

[brave garnet]

The tank commander is the eyes of the tank and having shit block his view is no bueno

[coral fiber]

No bueno
NO BUENO

[feral glade]

the Leopard 1 is the only true sexy tank in existence

because its a porche

[brave garnet]

Yea

Oooh

Never knew that

[feral glade]

yeah in ww2 porche was only a design team. nOW THEY ACTUALLY BMANUFACTURE TANKS

soory caps

[brave garnet]

Its fine

[feral glade]

finger sliped....lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_1 heres the wiki on it

[wild stone]

Do I actially run faster when holding a pistol? Or is it just my imagination 🤔

[dense bone]

yea trench carbine takes way too many bullets to kill at range, with its rof good luck

[pastel grove]

Trench Carbine is shit right now

Ranged assignments are fucking awful for it.

[dense bone]

id say its meh

[feral glade]

i think its your imagination..i tried it myself a few times

[dense bone]

450 rof for what? 6 btk over 30m?

[feral glade]

in CS you do

but bf no

i bf4 the engineer is faster than the support guy...havent looked into it in bfv yet

[brave garnet]

When I messed around with my FOV I felt like I was running faster than everyone else but when I look down I go back to being slow

Takes some time to get used to it

[tacit kelp]

Origin down??

[feral glade]

ahh...maybe...since i readjusted my setting i seem to move a bit faster...or maybe its just smoother

mine is up

[tacit kelp]

EU?

[feral glade]

i dont think it maters

[brave garnet]

Ima change my name

[balmy condor]

not down 4 me

im EU UK

[feral glade]

yeah you present one is hard to remember

[brave garnet]

There we go

[feral glade]

hahahah...even harder

[brave garnet]

No longer Tanks are cute, now its I love tanks

[feral glade]

is that dutch or danish?

[brave garnet]

Norwegian

🇳🇴

[dense bone]

yea trench is.. underwhelming

[feral glade]

oh hell...yeah Norge. I speak german and kinda recognize it

woodland recon?

[brave garnet]

I rember when my name tag was tanksarecute an Nyphon was like What kind of god forsaken name is tanksarecute?

[coral fiber]

Origin down again?
Lmfao

[feral glade]

not mine pilot

[proven acorn]

Ywaaa

[coral fiber]

I was looking here then i see someone say origin is down

Im like damn y'all pc players are suffering lol

[feral glade]

im in game now

[solid carbon]

i just hope i can play some battlefield tomorrow

if origin is not gonna go offline once again

[stable osprey]

Hi

[wild stone]

Hello

[brave garnet]

Hei

[stable osprey]

What is everyone up to

[feral glade]

join me now imperial

[brave garnet]

Nothing

[feral glade]

helfe meir

[brave garnet]

Just loving tanks

[stable osprey]

Ol

[solid carbon]

im gonna go to bed in 20 minutes, im tired but i wanna finish the current hells kitchen episode^^

[stable osprey]

Lol-*

[solid carbon]

ich helfe dir tomorrow 😄

[feral glade]

cool catch you tomorrow then,...have a good sleep

[visual depot]

origin down?

[brave garnet]

Jeg vil hjelpe deg i morgen

[solid carbon]

thanks man, cya tomorrow!

[brave garnet]

Nope

Sorry

[coral fiber]

^

[wild stone]

^

[rotund beacon]

I want them to bring in some smaller game modes like previous battlefields

[brave garnet]

You mean limited time modes?

[grave gyro]

when are we able to buy the weapons from previous chapter?

i didnt unlock the nambu ^pistols and the jungle carbine etc

and i still see nowhere to buy em with cc

[dense bone]

yea zh/1906 are disgusting

[shy badger]

That's weird I think you should be able to buy them

[rotund beacon]

@brave garnet kinda

Something war pigeons from bf1

Instead of just the boring stuff we have now

[solid hinge]

@dense bone just use smoke

i saw a reddit post a while ago calling the recon SLRs the worst weapons in the game

had to stop myself from throwing my phone at the wall

[stable osprey]

Lol

I mean what is wrong

[dense bone]

lol idiots

and im using the 1906 right now

[balmy condor]

[strong parrot]

Poor phone... controller gets away from damage but one idiot on Reddit, rip phone

[balmy condor]

imagine calling SLRs the worst

[wind shale]

slrs are an oppressed minority

[strong parrot]

That opinion is brought to you by bolt only snobs

[tacit kelp]

again

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1232823033297063944

[wind shale]

dying at range while using an slr

[novel blaze]

shitttt all 4 rotterdam eu servers are full 😭

[solid hinge]

any skilled bolt user will always outplay the SLRs

[novel blaze]

i just want to join a pre match rotter damn 😢

[strong parrot]

And communism will work it's just not been done correctly

[novel blaze]

so i could experience the main bf theme as i charge against able dodging german fire

[proven acorn]

Slr users are not oppressed XD

[wind shale]

yes they are

they need help

[pastel grove]

implying that capitalism is better

[wind shale]

their helmets are too expensive