battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

the big bomb on stuka isnt good enough to justify flying what amounts to a fat fighter with shit guns

[ornate sail]

I miss it.

[coral fiber]

They nerfed it tho and it's trash

[uneven hollow]

Well depends on map sometimes 1 or 2 or even 3 all gotta be captured to move on forward

[coral fiber]

I miss it too

[solid hinge]

and the 37mms chunk planes and do decent damage to tanks but are shit vs infantry

the gunner position is useless in both of them without the upgraded gunner but that's replaced by a more relevant spec like

always

[ornate sail]

You literally need to drop it ON a tank to kill him.

It's a joke.

It's literally a 1-ton bomb.

[coral fiber]

I got a glancing shot with the bomb once but that was a year ago @ornate sail

[solid hinge]

i kinda miss the behemoth from battlefield 1

meanwhile the JU-88 A has like fucking 20 bombs and double heavy gunners

the bottom gunner position on the Ju-88 has like double the firepower and then it gets heavy gunner spec on top of that

[coral fiber]

They secretly nerfed the Blenheim nose gunners @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

wtf

When

[coral fiber]

They so ass now

[solid hinge]

Are you kidding

[coral fiber]

5.2

[solid hinge]

That was literally the only good part of the plane

Oh my god

[coral fiber]

It was confirmed by some pilots on the pilot sub reddit

[solid hinge]

🥴

[coral fiber]

They're sooooo asss now

[ornate sail]

I just unlocked the Mosquito's 4000 lbs bomb. Hoping it's good.

[solid hinge]

even more reason just to stack mosquitos

[coral fiber]

@ornate sail godly

[raw orbit]

WHY DOES DICE KEEP PUTTING IN THE FUCKING SQUAD ASSIGNMENTS WHEN THEY KNOW THEY DONT FUCKING WOOOOOORKJ

[ornate sail]

Awesome.

[solid hinge]

4000lb bomb is nerfed a bit from release but that was necessary because it was literally a mini v1

[ornate sail]

As it should be. Lol

[coral fiber]

@ornate sail it takes awhile for the thing to drop
It's basically dropping a bathtub

[uneven hollow]

Just like in the simulations

[ornate sail]

Cant wait haha

[coral fiber]

Need to get used to the bomb drop first tho

[solid hinge]

genuinely it's better stacking mosquitos for Brits than using the other planes

[coral fiber]

It took me awhile before i got kills with it

[ornate sail]

Mosquito just feels slow anymore.

[solid hinge]

the 4 x 20mms shred planes with a couple of relatively large bombs and the 6pdr chunks stuff on the ground along with the 4k bomb

you have basically no way of getting someone off your tail but if you have a teammate also in a mosquito then they'll kill them faster than they kill you

[ornate sail]

I used to climb and outrun 109s in a straight climb when they were on my tail.

Doesn't work anymore.

[solid hinge]

They've touched the flight model a few times

[ornate sail]

Because they need to fuck up everything.

[solid hinge]

4 x 20mms mosquito spec tree gets saxophone exhaust which boosts speed

Might be worth trying that

[pastel grove]

I also miss behemoths

[ornate sail]

That's what I've been using before the 4000 lb bomb

[solid hinge]

It's a noticeable speed increase

even slower without

[uneven hollow]

Behemoths would be nice

Would also be nicer if they bring in a grand operation style of bf1

[tall finch]

Its so hard for me to get planes of my 6

[ornate sail]

They should just incorporate those things into the game, not as a one sided deal.

[raw orbit]

lol fuck off behemoths are the worst

[ornate sail]

Battlefield 1942 had battleships and they were fine. It didn't need to be a Behemoth.

[tall finch]

I have to find smoke, fly in a straight climb, and then quickly stall

but 50% of the time it doesnt work so

[solid hinge]

smoke on planes usually replaces your emergency repair

[ornate sail]

Only time I can do it with any success is in Fjell and mercury.

If you can hit the turns going over the mountains, while inverted and really close, they usually have no idea which way you turn once they clear the crest.

[raw orbit]

why is hipfire so fucking anus in this game

BRO I LOVE DYING TO THE 2A BEFORE MY SECOND BULLET CAN EVEN COME OUT

I EVEN SHOT FIRST

[balmy condor]

oof

[solid hinge]

Anyone remember when Wake Island was actually fun?

What a disappointing way for it to return

[main grove]

Never played any wake island before this one

I played a tiny bit of BF4 and BF1 is when I started play properly

[solid carbon]

i liked wake island in bf2 and 3 but its horrible in 5

[main grove]

What exactly is wrong with it or is just more battlefield 5 bad

Compared to older versions

[daring barn]

Hmm... who miss knife only servers

[raw orbit]

BRO WTF IS THIS I JUST WANNA CHEESE KILLS IN COMBINE ARMS AND IM MATCHED INTO SOME CHINESE 1200 PING SERVER

[solid carbon]

the balance is one of the biggest problem for sure

[teal compass]

defending on Underground
2nd sector
Team has a Frontline
Teammates all drop to the floor

it was epic tho

[daring barn]

Hosting a sniper only server on bf5

[jaunty sand]

How do i fly attack jets in bf4 lmao

Or kill with them

[daring barn]

use a aa tank or a tow turrent or a tank or a jet or a rpg

guided missle

or may other stuff you can do

[jaunty sand]

Nu like how do i use them efficently

When i use the attack jets i cant kill ground targets for shit.. I shoot my cannon at a tank and it goes for like 3 damage

[solid hinge]

jets arent very good vs ground iirc

[jaunty sand]

But thats what attack jets are for

Shooting them down is the easiest thing ill do all day..

And base camping AA tanks make things harder too

[nimble pumice]

does anyone want to play battlefield 3 https://battlelog.battlefield.com:443/bf3/de/servers/show/pc/b592bb81-3700-41a5-96e8-faccf7606172/Die-Bierbarone-I-16-24-32-I-NO-JET-vs-INFMAN/

[gray glade]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[solid hinge]

Is the commando carbine good?

Not really

Short range

[scenic beacon]

its pretty ok at short range, i even find myself occasionally memeing with its hipfire specs

[solid hinge]

It's not like good good but it's a silent weapon that ohks to the head up to like 30 meters or something

If you can aim good you'll do good

[scenic beacon]

^

also sounds cool

[wild stone]

Is your rank and class ranks separate?

[strong parrot]

aka why would you use this weapon when you have a superior bolt in medic or spammy smgs

yes

class ranks go to 20, player rank goes to 500

[wild stone]

Ok

And when I rank up my player rank, does my XP reset each time?

Or is the required xp added

I dont know how to explain

Do the ranks represent your TOTAL xp without any resets when ranking up?

[strong parrot]

you need X amount of xp to rank up to your next level, so you get X+1xp it just rolls over to the new rank and adds the +1 to that bar? is that what you are getting at

[wild stone]

Yeah

So if ranking up needs x+y and I have x xp currently, that means I only need to get y xp to rank up?

[strong parrot]

yeah, youre not losing out any xp disappearing or anything

[wild stone]

Ok

I thought I need to get the total of x+y to rank up

Thanks for explaining :)

[strong parrot]

the xp amount required just keeps increasing as you go up

https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Battlefield_V_online_ranks this is one of the pinned messages in the channel

[coral fiber]

One hell of a grind

Im barely 146

😂

[scenic beacon]

i think im 111

[teal compass]

I'm 129

[wild stone]

For example, if I unlock the liberator on assault, can I use it on ALL of my classes?

[balmy condor]

bruh I'm rank 66

[teal compass]

Yes

@wild stone

[wild stone]

Yeah?

[balmy condor]

yep

[wild stone]

How can I unlock the Boys AT rifle?

[balmy condor]

You buy it with CC

Company coin

[wild stone]

It is the coins I get for assignments?

[balmy condor]

Yeah and just playing matches

[wild stone]

I read it was a chapter reward previously, I thought I missed my opportunity 😀

[balmy condor]

they always release the weapon for CC after the tides of war week or chapter is over

[wild stone]

Ok

[teal compass]

[balmy condor]

[strong parrot]

unless its the pistols..then you gotta wait because dice didnt think about it

cant you tell origin where its located?

then it does a repair function

[vestal turtle]

nope... there is nothing like that at least I can`t see

[balmy condor]

@vestal turtle 👉 #technology

[vestal turtle]

didn't know software count as tech

[balmy condor]

eh

they'll help you

[teal compass]

[balmy condor]

[teal compass]

[brave cypress]

Loaded into my first game of the day, tried to spawn, got stuck in a blank screen, pressed pause and broke my fucking game

Amazing

16 months btw

[strong parrot]

[brave cypress]

There is a positive side here though

I don't have to play Panzerstorm and spend 99% of the match running through fields

[rich moon]

Hi boys

When is the new ttk update?

[brave cypress]

Never

[subtle stratus]

Never

[wind shale]

good question

[rich moon]

6.2

isnt that a ttk update?

fuck this game

[wintry vapor]

division 2 on sale

[strong parrot]

when ever they decide to tell us

its super close to being announced!

[rich moon]

Coming soon

[strong parrot]

friday our dear CM was supposed to tell us some info

but all we got told on saturday was we will get some nuggets of info on monday

[balmy condor]

[rich moon]

fuck these guys

[strong parrot]

"but the patch notes are big and look juicy!" idk i think the dude was at a steakhouse when writing that tbh

[sharp oxide]

Lol

[rich moon]

how many devs are left at Dice stockholm?

5?

[strong parrot]

nah theres gotta be a good bakers dozen

[brave cypress]

2

[strong parrot]

how else could they afford to have two community managers?

oh im sorry...one is the head global cm

[brave cypress]

Why are AT weapons so fucked in this game

[rich moon]

Maybe they only have community managers left

[brave cypress]

Infantry can't do shit

[strong parrot]

do you have the bazooka?

[brave cypress]

The M1 does 35 damage to a universal carrier

[solid hinge]

Is bfv good again?

[rich moon]

no

[solid hinge]

Ok

[rich moon]

still shit

[solid hinge]

😦

[brave cypress]

Yes I have the bazooka

[rich moon]

[brave cypress]

It's still weak as fuck

[solid hinge]

hey at least the bazooka hurts tanks

[strong parrot]

oh shit angry mod

[brave cypress]

11-13 damage

[solid hinge]

Ok I take that back

[balmy condor]

👀

[rich moon]

are the mods here the same as the subreddit?

[sharp oxide]

11/13 dmg? Are you shooting the turrets? I hit 24 dmg on tracks.

[brave cypress]

Yea cool I only have to shoot them 9-10 fucking times without getting a tank shell crammed into my chest

[strong parrot]

You want useable AT as infantry?

[balmy condor]

[rich moon]

[solid hinge]

every time bmac

every fuckin time

[brave cypress]

Context for that comment?

[strong parrot]

You want context?

[brave cypress]

Like what was the actual post he was replying to

[rich moon]

revert the ttk

[balmy condor]

[strong parrot]

I believe the person he was responding to simply said "revert the ttk, that is the feedback" and he of course being the big brain he is, replied with ..well you see it

[rich moon]

yep

[vestal locust]

Really sucks being outgunned by sturmgwers at range when using an Garand... so when are the semi autos getting a buff again?

[rich moon]

when the next BF game comes out

[sharp oxide]

Yeah the grand should be top tier like it was during actual WW2.

[rich moon]

i cant believe this shit has been going on for nearly 4 fucking months

[brave cypress]

Haha my game is broken so watch me be sassy and sarcastic like a fucking douchebag

[strong parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177094649473794049/680906953119236136/unknown.png literally no one at dice saw this coming when making 5.2

[brave cypress]

Surely that will improve how the community views me!

[strong parrot]

lol honestly

[low totem]

e

well

[strong parrot]

the amount of shit he responds to with literally no need for is amazing

[low totem]

is it not better that he at least responds?

[rich moon]

dice need to fuck up another patch notes

the memes are drying up

[strong parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177094649473794049/680809085637230631/unknown.png this was particularly hilarious when i saw it yesterday

[vestal locust]

Don’t tend to run scope as the iron sights are top tier for garand

Yet makes range head shots hard so have to resort to almost entire clip to kill enemy... before more show up like moths to a lamp

[sharp oxide]

I run Iron Sights for the historical accuracy.

[rich moon]

Have a good one boys

[tall rampart]

I use aperture sight on all my recon weapons, cause I hate my eyes, but don’t want the scope glint

[sharp oxide]

Yeah I found the AT rifle with Iron Sights is best for stealth recon.

[solid hinge]

6.2 when?

just got done with MW for a bit time to rant

[brave cypress]

Too bad the AT rifles have piss poor bullet velocity

[solid hinge]

I'm still waiting for that juicy update when is it

[keen elm]

End of the month hopefully

[tall rampart]

@solid hinge probably sometime in early March maybe end of February

[keen elm]

And hopefully is indeed juicy

[sharp oxide]

All snipers have horrible velocity. Recon class is just really fucked up.

[tall rampart]

Tank customization oh boy oh boy

[solid hinge]

hopefully they fix all of the issues with 5.2

[keen elm]

Ngl, doubt it

Not all of them

[tall rampart]

From what I’ve heard, It fixes some of the issues

[keen elm]

Some guns are still going to be absolutely trashed

[sharp oxide]

Type 2A either gonna be better then it is already or nerfed to oblivion.

[solid hinge]

prob nerfed to oblivion

hopefully in terms of recoil

[tall rampart]

It’s supposed to go back to near 5.2, but not exactly

[brave cypress]

Whoever thought up the ability to spot people by shooting them as a recon

[solid hinge]

guns should be balanced based off of recoil tbh

[vestal locust]

I’ll take the nerf of it lol

[brave cypress]

You're fucking braindead

[tall rampart]

2a is only really good in underground and caves of Iwo Jima

[keen elm]

Recon needs all it can get rn

Imo

[tall rampart]

I’d like to see more pistol carbine for recon

[solid hinge]

faster guns are more lethal but are harder to control, while slower guns are more relaxed but are less lethal

or basically 5.0

but more extreme

[tall rampart]

Honestly after playing with the 2a a bit, it is not as op as people say, unless your at close range

[brave cypress]

Recon has an advantage over every other class

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge the problem is that the faster guns have close to zero recoil, so they're not that hard to control

[sharp oxide]

It has lots of advantages. But the glint makes it really hard to be a recon and snipe from a far.

[solid hinge]

So you know how people say that uhm the Panzer 38t with the auto cannon isnt that good?

I just went 58-0 with it in Arras breakthrough

[tall rampart]

Nice

[brave cypress]

Footsteps are broken

[solid hinge]

The thing is honeslty so powerful vs infantry

[vestal locust]

And for the sake of hamada... tone down that heat wave.. and give some Afrika corp wear for Germans

[tall rampart]

Al Sudan heat wave effect, I feel, is even worse

[solid hinge]

Al Sudan is a bad map imo

On breakthrough its finr

*fine

But on conquest it's just horrific

[tall rampart]

Yeah, Al Sudan is bad

[tough lodge]

800 rpm t2a

[solid hinge]

Al Sudan is like something for Post Scriptum

[tough lodge]

What I only hate about al soondone is it's verticality

[solid hinge]

Or Arma

[tall rampart]

It’s cause of that huge ass open space

[solid hinge]

Yes in the middle

And generally I always where people are

I always play in the middle

[tall rampart]

Aerodrome’s got the same issue

[tough lodge]

2nd sector of al sundan is too vertical

[solid hinge]

But nowhere near as bad

3 sector of Al Sudan is where it is at

[tough lodge]

The stairs reminds me of dust2 lol

[tall rampart]

True, but it’s still pretty bad

[solid hinge]

Farming farming farming

[tough lodge]

Also, the final sector is really bad.

[solid hinge]

Yes the Germans always get demolished

[tough lodge]

Not too much cover for infantry

Its too open because of the runway

[solid hinge]

The Germans always get Demolished from the hills

[tall rampart]

I’m more of a Conquest main, so I wouldn’t know about issues on breakthrough

[solid hinge]

And the runway gets spammed with vehicles and tanks

Breakthrough is more action oriented

And it's easier to level up and get stuff

[tall rampart]

Well, I’ve played breakthrough

[tough lodge]

I liked conquest but when I played breakthrough I avoided conquest entirely lol

[solid hinge]

Like the 58-0 I pulled I'm breakthrough would have not been the same in Conquest

*in

[tough lodge]

Conquest is running around simulator

[tall rampart]

Breakthrough on Iwo Jima, best setup by far

[sharp oxide]

@tough lodge especially on Solomon.

[shell stone]

H E C C

[solid hinge]

Because
A the infantry wouldn't have had been concentrated in one area
B I would have had faced a tank that would just end me

[tall rampart]

Solomon’s got issues on breakthrough

[tough lodge]

I only play conquest when the chapter week reward forcuses on it

[shell stone]

Why the hell did my message instantly delete?!

[tough lodge]

@shell stone censor

Maybe you typed something nsfw

Or a slur

Yes

[shell stone]

Ffs

[tough lodge]

Delete that before mods see it

[shell stone]

This is a game about WWII

[balmy condor]

👀

[tough lodge]

Just refer to them as notsees

yea i know

[tall rampart]

Or Germans

[solid hinge]

@shell stone What did you say?

[tough lodge]

ww2 game without notsees

[solid hinge]

Square mustache man?

[tough lodge]

[shell stone]

I was saying that i had an idea regarding that flag. Make a patch that allows all copies that aren't German to see the German flag as Era Correct? It'd be a client-side thing. (same thing with the Rising Sun flag, but replace Germany with Japan)

[solid hinge]

I bet there are mods for that but the Wehrmacht flag is much better looking imo

[tall rampart]

Yeah

[tough lodge]

@shell stone devs are too scared to do it

[shell stone]

I remember people complaining about how it's not period correct

[solid hinge]

The Iron Cross is much more badass than you know what.

[tough lodge]

bEcAuSe iT's ofFenSive

[tall rampart]

Well it is man

[solid hinge]

It's all about P.R

[shell stone]

Yeah, fair. But it's not being used to offend. Not in the game

[solid hinge]

People in Japan actually use the symbol while causally texting

[tall rampart]

Plus, it would get censored in Germany anyway

[tough lodge]

There is a solution to this

[solid hinge]

Yeah and I live in Germany and everything that has to do with that is censored in video games

dice Sweden don't care that much about historical accuracy sadly

Because Videogames count as sports here and not as art

[shell stone]

@tall rampart hence why i said it'd be a client-side thing that all versions but German can see the flag as thr correct version

[tough lodge]

Find the german and japanese flag in game files

Replace the image file with the era correct one

But its only visible to yours

[tall rampart]

@solid hinge battlefield was never historically accurate or realistic

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge I mean it's fine but they do make some stupid mistakes like adding the Tiger so early into the war.

[shell stone]

inb4 found hacking and get B E A N E D

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge wonder how they deal with the likes of Wolfenstein there lol

They just renamed the entire faction

[tall rampart]

Censor it probably

[solid hinge]

It's the Syndicate or something in Germany

[shell stone]

That sounds badass

[tough lodge]

I read somewhere that the ban on swastika on videogames was lifted

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge I have seen many ppl complaining about uniforms too

[tough lodge]

Like somewhere 2017

[solid hinge]

But Germans dont care about WW2 and they even joke about it.

[icy sluice]

The Wolfenstein Censor does look good tho

[solid hinge]

WW2 jokes are nothing uncommon in Germany

[tall rampart]

At least you guys have a sense of humor about it

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge Yes,I am lucky I bought the year 2 edition and got the Baron of Rage outfit wich looks like a general.

[tough lodge]

This thing is in-game, they should have used this instead of the imperial flag

[solid hinge]

I dont like any of the games standard outfits but the class specific look cool.

[tough lodge]

This is visible on rotterdam and the last tiger

[solid hinge]

That cross is still used today btw

[tall rampart]

Canid Horribilis looks nice

[solid hinge]

they should fix the British and German standard uniforms

[shell stone]

Speaking of, I'm just about finished with 100%ing The Last Tiger!

[tall rampart]

@solid hinge the bundeswehr use it right

[tough lodge]

I love the silver dagger helmet

@tall rampart yes

[shell stone]

How do i get Canid Horribilis?

[tough lodge]

@shell stone recon mastery

[solid hinge]

@tall rampart Yes

[shell stone]

Hecc

[tough lodge]

I just unlocked silver dagger yesterday

[tall rampart]

Veiled threat head is cool too

[solid hinge]

@shell stone Get rank 20 with recon

[shell stone]

That'll take a while xD

[tough lodge]

Class mastery assignments are easy tho

[solid hinge]

Not really

Recon is easy points

[tough lodge]

I just mine with assault yesterday

[solid hinge]

You just need to get the flare gun

[tough lodge]

Kill 7 with explosive

[tall rampart]

I think I took about 2-3 months to get all the mastery skins

[tough lodge]

So i just use boom stick

7 kills ez

[shell stone]

Recon is the lowest rank for me

[balmy condor]

[tough lodge]

Same

[balmy condor]

i love the boom boom stick

[solid hinge]

Recon is
Flare gun
Aim shoot
Points

[tough lodge]

All of my classes are level 20 except for recon which is level 8

[tall rampart]

The Fallschrimjager stuff looks cool too

[solid hinge]

For me its
20
14
20
20

[tough lodge]

I just want grind to be back

[balmy condor]

all my classes are 20 except from recon which is 14

[tough lodge]

So i can stand in a ammo station and fire flares

Ez points

[shell stone]

Assault 9
Medic 6 (almost 7)
Support 7 (almost 8)
Recon 6

[tall rampart]

Nothin but 20’s for me

[tough lodge]

Braddock is offline

[balmy condor]

👀

[strong parrot]

wow ...sad times, at least he said he loved all of us before leaving

[tough lodge]

[balmy condor]

[shell stone]

Who's Braddock?

[opaque cipher]

[brave cypress]

Just did 59 damage with backblast

[shell stone]

😂

[brave cypress]

Also permanent death screen

[strong parrot]

is this some kind of competition now?

what platform are you playing on ktm

[brave cypress]

Xbone

[strong parrot]

interesting

[rotund beacon]

My bugs are lame. No interesting ones

[strong parrot]

so we have angry UK mode on ps4 and then you on xbox...both losing their minds over bugs etc, this is a case study from microsoft and sony, how far can we push one of our customers before they destroy the console

[tall rampart]

On PS4 I’ve been fairly big free honestly

[rotund beacon]

I would agree. Mostly very minor ones

[brave cypress]

My guns are now playing the echoey inside gunshot sounds despite me being outside

[balmy condor]

i would support that case study

i want variables

[rotund beacon]

The most annoying for me is the notification dot on the your company screen

[tall rampart]

Yes

[rotund beacon]

It’s never correct

[tall rampart]

It sometimes corrects for me, and lucky doesn’t last that long

[rotund beacon]

Yeah. Nowadays it tells me I have new stuff but when I go to check it out there isn’t anything marked

[brave cypress]

I just got 3 backblast kills with the 3 rockets you spawn with

I'm actually kinda enjoying the game now

Backblasting is fun as hell

[rotund beacon]

Bazooka?

[brave cypress]

Ye

[rotund beacon]

Don’t have it yet 😥

[tall rampart]

I’m like rank 6 right now

Is the bazooka good, or should I just stick with my trusty PIAT

[brave coral]

bazooka is pretty good

good range and damage

plus 5 carry ammo

[tall rampart]

Nice, oh and I got the lunge mine, that’ll just be collecting dust in the armory

[sharp oxide]

Lol true

[brave coral]

lunge mine is fun as hell

use it lol

[sharp oxide]

Fun not useful imo.

[rotund beacon]

Bazooka. Piat is booty

[brave coral]

it’s pretty useful

especially as Support with ammo box

[tall rampart]

Yeah, but like to stay at range, I’m not a complete mad lad

[brave coral]

you can deal 50 damage in one hit

[tall rampart]

If I play Panzerstorm I might try it then

[brave coral]

so if you get a tank off guard you can kill it in a matter of seconds

[sharp oxide]

I can place dynamite and run. I lunge mine and get a tank round in my ass.

[tall rampart]

Well, you do need the element of surprise

And a few friends wouldn’t hurt

[sharp oxide]

A friend? What's that?

[tall rampart]

Well I mean other players

Swarm it

That’s why I hang back when I play tanker

[rotund beacon]

Friends

Everyone is so spread out in this game

It’s bothersome

[tall rampart]

Cause the teamplay is, imo, non-existent

[rotund beacon]

Very true. Everyone just does their own thing

[tall rampart]

I lone wolf it most of the time, and I do alright

[brave coral]

honestly that’s just battlefield generally

[rotund beacon]

I think the excess of vehicles plays a part in that

[brave coral]

it’s seen as this team play heavy game

[tall rampart]

Yeah actually @brave coral

[brave coral]

it’s really not

well

[rotund beacon]

I feel like bf1 was

[tall rampart]

I meant yeah to the battlefield generally comment

[brave coral]

tbf the system is there, and you get moments

but unless you’re playing with a pre made squad, you don’t really get much specific team play

[tall rampart]

Plus the health and ammo station don’t help the teamplay aspect

[sharp oxide]

Yeah it really doesn't.

[tall rampart]

I just play how I want, which is a mix of camping, going on the offensive, and good ol tanks

[rotund beacon]

Balls to the wall, charging in and dying repeatedly

[tall rampart]

Only sometimes and only with bayonets

[rotund beacon]

I still seem to die when I hang back

[tall rampart]

Usually it’s who shoots first wins

[brave cypress]

There a way to check how many kills you have with a weapon in BFV?

[icy sluice]

Yes, go to profile in the main menu

[sharp oxide]

None. I haven't used some weapons.

[stoic breach]

You cant really have good teamplay unless inviduals by themselves are strong enough

BFV "teamplay" is really just weakest-link game design

[brave cypress]

Ty

[tall rampart]

Are the HEAT and APCR rounds any good, I’m thinking of changing up my specializations on my tiger

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[tall rampart]

Which is better, or does it depend on play style

[stoic breach]

Not entirely sure actually

I think Heat is better against tanks exclusively though

[tall rampart]

Well I guess the real question is do I want to give up s-mine launcher on my tiger

[stoic breach]

If you want to use s-mine, just use the Panzer IV

S-mine on the Tiger is kind of shit because its only good in close range

And you only ever want to camp with the Tiger

[tall rampart]

For Panzer 4 I went Left, Left, Left, Center

[stoic breach]

Whatever tree s-mines and flares are on is the best for Panzer IV

[tall rampart]

Do you just want to judge my German tank spec choices?

[stoic breach]

I'm not judging it, RRRR on the Panzer IV is physically the best way you can use it

[tall rampart]

I meant like tell me what you think

[stoic breach]

Oh shit lol I thought you meant something completely different haha

Well, for Panzer IV, its best to go RRRR because you get flares, transverse rotation and S-mines

Panzer IV is practically dedicated infantry farmer

So those specs let you deal with infantry the best

Pak 40 kind of just sucks on the Panzer IV because the tank in general isnt a good tank hunter

[tall rampart]

Ok well here they are:
38t: LCR and probably AT mines when I can afford it
Tiger: LCRC
Flakpanzer: LC and tbd for the last two
Stuff: RCR and tbd

[tribal cairn]

It's an Ideal Infantry Support Tank

[stoic breach]

Flakpanzer isnt worth using because its bad at minmax

[tribal cairn]

The Wirbelwind, with it's 4 20mms, I'd expect it to be able to shred aircraft,

But EA just seemed to make it useless

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[tall rampart]

Well, I still like to spec my AA

[stoic breach]

It just sucks

Its not even good at AP or AT anymore

Kind of a waste of CC imo

Same with the 38t

Its not a good tank

[tall rampart]

In my experience pre-5.2 it was pretty good for AA

The Wirbelwind

[stoic breach]

Pretty much the only good german tanks are the Panzer IV and Tiger 1 if you camp with it

Otherwise its generally a waste of a tank spawn

[tall rampart]

Stug is pretty good, at least to me

[stoic breach]

StuG IV is probably the worst tank in the whole game along with the AA tanks

[tall rampart]

I took out 5 tanks in one life with it on Panzerstorm

[stoic breach]

Holy shit, how did you manage to find 5 equally bad tank players

[tall rampart]

Distance and slow tanks

[stoic breach]

Lol

Sounds about right

[tribal cairn]

Imagine actual armor pen being in the game

[tall rampart]

Mostly Churchill’s, one Valentine AA, and one Valentine

[tribal cairn]

YOU'VE BEEN AMMO RACKED

[stoic breach]

Valentine AA

[tall rampart]

I’m a very cautious tanker after BF1

[stoic breach]

How the actual fuck did a Valentine MK8 lose to a StuG

That mustve been the literal worst tanker in the whole game

[tall rampart]

Well I did have a tiger and 38t backing me up

[solid hinge]

Churchill default cannon > tigers now

🥴

[stoic breach]

Did the churchill get buffed into a "useful" tank

[solid hinge]

Shoots panzerfaust
+5 damage

[stoic breach]

Yep

[tall rampart]

With the Stug, you got to use it like a proper tank destroyer, and a little war thunder doesn’t hurt

[tribal cairn]

Weren't they over 200mm of penetration in real life?

[stoic breach]

Imagine nerfing the worst rocket launcher in the game

[tribal cairn]

Bloody hell

[stoic breach]

Epic

Panzerfaust should be able to one-shot a tank from behind if you're close enough

[solid hinge]

Wait...

[tall rampart]

I may try to play with the 38t more

[solid hinge]

Are you...

Talking about..

Realism @stoic breach?

[stoic breach]

I'm talking about gadget balance

[solid hinge]

Default tiger cannon does 17 damage to the fronts

Default churchill cannon does like 14/15

[stoic breach]

Panzerfaust should be the "shotgun" of rocket launchers now that the Bazooka is in the game

[solid hinge]

With notably higher fire rate

[tribal cairn]

So it will take me 10 shots to kill them from the front

[tall rampart]

Damage, smamage, I just shoot till they die or I die

[solid hinge]

HEAT shells are actually basically mandatory on tigers now

[tribal cairn]

Or at least 8

[solid hinge]

Boosts damage to 25

[stoic breach]

Damn it

[tall rampart]

Should I create a Panzerstorm 24/7 server so I can play with tanks?

[stoic breach]

Why cant every tank just kill eachother in like 4 shots

[tribal cairn]

Because that wouldn't be completely grindy for a simple task

They have to make things overly complicated and tedious

It's part of the job description

[stoic breach]

Aw hecka yeah

Lets take game and make it unfun

[tall rampart]

Isn’t that just most AAA games these days?

[stoic breach]

I mean, it doesnt have to be

BFV could've just not had grind at all

But then players would complain about there not being any "progression"

I guess the trick is to make it seem like there is

[solid hinge]

i don't like the weapon grind

[stoic breach]

Yeah, the weapon grind sucks

[tall rampart]

I’m really nervous for Cyberpunk 2077

[sharp oxide]

I can't say for sure but battlefield definitely has screw with the mechanics in their game description.

[stoic breach]

Especially for people who dont want to play 24/7 for the shit they want

[solid hinge]

what time period is battlefield 6 gonna take place in

[stoic breach]

No information

[sharp oxide]

Korean War? Lol

[tall rampart]

I’d like to see 2142 style or maybe Korea or Vietnam

[sharp oxide]

I don't think battlefield has done Korea or Vietnam yet so probably one of them.

[stoic breach]

I dont really see Battlefield doing future combat well

Thats really best left to Titanfall or Halo

[tall rampart]

Well was 2142 good?

[stoic breach]

It was probably ok

But its a refractor game so eh

[tall rampart]

It had like mechs and the first carrier assault style mode, but that’s about all I know

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Well, Titanfall generally handles mechs better, as well as pilot combat

[solid hinge]

i miss the behemoth from battlefield 1 wish they could add that back

[stoic breach]

I just cant imagine "BF2143" being all that amazing

[tall rampart]

Behemoths were more cinematic than useful

[sharp oxide]

Is that the actual battlefield name?

[stoic breach]

No

[sharp oxide]

Glad

[stoic breach]

Its hypothetical

[tall rampart]

@stoic breach well let’s see if they can

[stoic breach]

There is 0 information about "Battlefield 6"

Yeah

[solid hinge]

well

battlefield 6 is def gonna be on new consoles

[stoic breach]

I guess for a future Battlefield to work, it would just need to not copy 2142

[tall rampart]

If I get the ps5 it’s going to be for cyberpunk not battlefield

[stoic breach]

And probably reduce the emphasis on health kits and ammo boxes and let players run around with semi-infinite ammo

[solid hinge]

krypt what do you play on

[tall rampart]

Well, I mean it’s the future, they can do just about anything with the 2142 idea

[stoic breach]

Like, if its the future, people dont need to be bogged down by Battlefield's current mechanics

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Also can they add the weapon pick ups that are in the pacific maps to every map?

[tall rampart]

@solid hinge PS4

[solid hinge]

at least for just the flame thrower

katana i can understand not being in other maps

[stoic breach]

It would be nice if that flame pistol gadget was in the game

Like in the Chapter 4 trailer lol

[tall rampart]

With the future one, your not bogged done by history or realism, to a point, skies the limit

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Honestly, I would love to see Battlefield have infinite ammo like Titanfall

Its actually really good for FPS design

[tall rampart]

Yeah, that would be nice to not have to constantly check my ammo

[stoic breach]

Yeah, people generally dont like that idea because they think the support class doesnt exist without being able to throw ammo

But the support class has infinite ammo anyways

So already 1/4 classes just has that to begin with

[tall rampart]

Support isn’t just a walking ammo dump

[solid hinge]

are devs/ community team active here

[stoic breach]

No they arent

@tall rampart yeah people have this misconception that support = walking ammo

When the class is also based on suppression, repairing, and in previous games, mortars

[tall rampart]

Support for the future could still build fortifications and repair mechs and ships

And probably some sort of AT support

[stoic breach]

I think if players had infinite ammo, but magazines were on a cooldown, so you could still "run out" it would be fine

Yeah

Every class needs its own form of AT

[tall rampart]

Sort of like overheating

[stoic breach]

Not really overheating

[tall rampart]

Like ability cooldown in a way

[stoic breach]

But if you just spam reloads, you run out of ammo and have to wait for more magazines to regen

Yeah

Or if there was just one really fast cooldown that slowed down every time you reloaded or something

[tall rampart]

I like what Titanfall 2 did with it (cause Titanfall 2 was my first one)

[stoic breach]

And if you kill an enemy and pick up their ammo it resets the cooldown

Yeah

Titanfall 2 having standard infinite ammo is good for the fast paced gameplay

[tall rampart]

I feel Titanfall is super underrated as a FPS

[stoic breach]

Battlefield could get away with slowing it down

Yeah, Titanfall 2 has alot of game design that Battlefield sorely needs as well

To evolve as an FPS

AI units on both teams that players can farm up points from

Infinite ammo

[tall rampart]

Well we will see what happens with the next one

[stoic breach]

Player outlines for amazing player visibility

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Already looking towards the next battlefield?

[tall rampart]

It could be the death of the series or its glorious comeback

[stoic breach]

Yeah, hopefully its a comeback but I'm not holding my breath

[solid hinge]

Most likely gonna Vietnam I think

[tall rampart]

I’ll be cautiously optimistic, with BF5 and the future BF6

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, another thing Titanfall has that Battlefield lacks is every player gets AT

[tall rampart]

Yes

[stoic breach]

Respawn understood that players should not be limited like that, its why in a Titanfall 2 patch, they enabled the 3rd weapon slot so you dont have to trade your AT weapon if you want a pistol

[tall rampart]

Medic and sniper need AT if they want to have any chance at offensive capabilities

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Sniper already has the perfect tool, AT Rifles

It just needs to be a gadget

[tall rampart]

Like a simple AT grenade would be nice

[stoic breach]

So it can get buffed

[tall rampart]

AT rifles do jack against tanks, I think they a more effective against half tracks

[stoic breach]

I've killed tanks with them before, but its annoying

If AT Rifles were gadgets, they could get their AT power buffed

Also they could probably just spawn with one magazine max

[tall rampart]

The AT rifles are like the less fun version of the Martini-Henry rifle

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Which is why making them gadgets would be great

I mean, I loved using the Boys AT against players

[tall rampart]

Yeah, and could they add the Tankgewehr 1918 to BF5

[stoic breach]

Even as a gadget that would be cool

AT Rifles with increased base spread so they cant snipe players would be really great

[tall rampart]

I think BF5 probably got about one more AT rifle being added and that would be the PTRD

[stoic breach]

And if someone aims at a tank with an AT Rifle, it could get the rainbow scope glint from BF1

PTRD as a gadget would be super fun

[solid hinge]

Isn’t there a class dedicated for AT

[stoic breach]

That holds back game design

[tall rampart]

Assault is basically

[stoic breach]

The "AT class" concept is awful for balance

If you get caught out by a tank, you get fucked just by not spawning as maybe 2/4 of the classes

Assault should be the "aggressive AP" class

And every other class should have some form of good AT

[tall rampart]

I would like to see some more AT rifles, along with pistol carbines and SAR’s and SLR’s

[solid hinge]

Well keep dreaming I guess

[tall rampart]

I mean we still got like a year and half so, it could happen

[stoic breach]

It wont, because DICE is incapable of good game design right now

[solid hinge]

BF4 has such good gunplay damn son

[stoic breach]

Ironically enough

[tall rampart]

I’ve actually been working on a list, more for myself, list a bunch of maps that would be cool to see, and I started adding weapons yesterday

[solid hinge]

The fast and strong guns actually have like recoil and stuff

[stoic breach]

BF4 gunplay is the thing I hate the most about it

[tall rampart]

Yeah after playing BF4 I don’t see what was so great about it other than those levelutions

[stoic breach]

Even then that kinda sucked

[solid hinge]

its one of the best BFs we have gotten

when the devs actually listen to community feedback

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, Ive been thinking about this for a while

You know how you can tow stationary guns and shit

Like the AA turret

I'm thinking DICE should just scrap that entire system

[tribal cairn]

I disagree,

But carry on

[stoic breach]

Remove the Valentine AA and Wirbelwind from the game

And add the Flakpanzer 38 as a transport vehicle

[tall rampart]

I’m going to be honest even with it’s flaws, there have been times where I was genuinely enjoying BF5, like in those early chapter, in the pacific and even today, before I got distracted with discord, It’s a good game with many flaws, but I still enjoy it

[stoic breach]

So you can just spawn with already mobile AA

Without wasting a tank spawn ticket

[tall rampart]

Also cya guys, I’m going to eat and try to play some more BF5

[tribal cairn]

That could be interesting,

But I disagree on the scrapping towing idea

[stoic breach]

Yea sure, cya

@tall rampart

I think the whole towing idea is a fun concept on paper, but in practice it doesnt really work as well as youd like

If the Flakpanzer 38 was a transport vehicle, you could just skip the extra step of finding and towing an AA gun for mobile AA

It would also be a really useful transport vehicle

[tribal cairn]

Well, I like it on maps like Panzerstorm for example, where there are tree line areas and large areas undefended by AT Guns that you could make use of when you have no available tankers

Could try and even out tank flanking if they tow it into a correct position

[stoic breach]

Yeah

I get what you mean as well

But especially with things like the PAK40, its just annoying to try and set it up in the right spot

[tribal cairn]

That I can agree with, for example, slight inclines

[stoic breach]

I guess it wouldnt really change the game if they kept it or removed it, but to me it would be like cutting the fat, so to speak

[tribal cairn]

One slight incline and it's sliding down the entire way you came

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Thats annoying as well

[tribal cairn]

Now if we are making mobile AA a real thing for a spawn vehicle,

For example, flakpanzer 38,

What would it's AT Equivalent be, if applicable?

It cannot be too powerful, of course,

Since that would make tanks useless in a way

[stoic breach]

I feel like the M3 truck could just be the equivalent

In terms of armour, not damage

Cause right now its just a massive target for explosives, and it drives too slowly

Its an unsafe transport vehicle

[tribal cairn]

Alright,

I was thinking of more a Light Anti Tank Vehicle like the Sd.kfz 251/22

Half track Chassis,

[stoic breach]

That might also be nice

[tribal cairn]

Anti Tank gun,

But it's lightly armored

So it won't withstand direct combat

[stoic breach]

Haha, like the Pakwagen but you can spawn with it

That would be sick

[tribal cairn]

Yes

Would be nice

[stoic breach]

Ye

[tribal cairn]

And I heard in WW2 The British had an AT Variant of the Bren Carrier

Outfitted with an AT Rifle, though I think

Not the Churchill gun carrier,

Mind you

But it was one of the smaller variety

[stoic breach]

That sounds fun though

AT Rifle truck, low splash but high velocity

@tribal cairn

[solid hinge]

Worst gun in bfv? 😂

[soft storm]

You know

Liberator

[coarse thunder]

The one that is the worst irl and in game

[icy sluice]

Of course, I feel like it was only added to show off animation and history... or a joke

[coarse thunder]

Why not all three

[icy sluice]

It does have the actual long animation to reload it, the correct amount of bullets held in the gun, the description does say how it was used... and it's in Front-Line combat

[stoic breach]

Would've been nice if the Liberator had a 20-40m sweetspot

You know, as a joke

[fierce radish]

No

Sweet spot should of been 100m+ to infinity

To have a pocket anti sniper

[stoic breach]

I mean as a meme weapon that would actually be kind of funny

But 20-40m would be more infuriating

And more useful

[solid hinge]

liberator should always OHK on headshot

[fierce radish]

Yea but it can’t be useful normally

[solid hinge]

would be best meme weapon

[fierce radish]

Yea

But it needs to have a weird op niche

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[fierce radish]

So

[solid hinge]

Right now it's too much of a joke

Even kolibri could do a little

[fierce radish]

100m+ sweet spot no bullet drop

It adds 1 damage per meter

So

25 at 25

364 at 364

Dumb stuff like that

But

It needs to have no bullet drop

Just a laser

[stoic breach]

I actually think it would be really funny if they just added APCR to the Liberator for no reason

[main grove]

Kolibri IRL was a joke

[fierce radish]

Yea

[main grove]

Liberator was definitely not

[fierce radish]

It’s dumb

Liberator needs to do 25 to tanks 2

[main grove]

Liberator was a dead serious project to give French civilians one shot on a German so they can take their gun

[fierce radish]

Everything listed above

And that

apcr liberator

[main grove]

So it should OHK at least up to 8m or something

[fierce radish]

No

Gains 1 damage per meter

Do a one hit at 100+

[solid hinge]

They need to add the Welrod

[fierce radish]

Yea

[solid hinge]

That would be another fun meme pistol

[fierce radish]

It’s in the files

Yea

[main grove]

Welrod should be like the new obrez

[fierce radish]

Should one shot headshot

[solid hinge]

Yes

[fierce radish]

Yea

[solid hinge]

But the revolver is already 1 shot headsho

*t

[fierce radish]

So

U can have more then one option

[solid hinge]

So it wouldn't really be special

[fierce radish]

It would cuz it’s suppressed

[solid hinge]

Wait the match started brb

[stoic breach]

Liberator should actually be an OHK up to 8m though

[fierce radish]

lol

[stoic breach]

Unironically

[fierce radish]

Cya

[stoic breach]

All jokes aside

[tribal cairn]

Imagine giving the Nambu a 5% chance of shooting your nuts off for 15 damage when you holster it

[main grove]

Obrez in BF1 was like a OHK up to 10m on the body

[fierce radish]

Yea

[tribal cairn]

Realism

[fierce radish]

But for memes my idea

It should be one of the specializations

[main grove]

Commando carbine should OHK up to 15m so it sort of behaves like a slug

[fierce radish]

No

[main grove]

But trade worse damage drop off for it being silenced

[fierce radish]

Unless they nerf the firerate

[stoic breach]

It actually should though

Right now its just a worse bolt action

[fierce radish]

No

It’s better

[main grove]

Slugs have a better fire rate

[solid hinge]

Liberator should at least have revolver damage model

[main grove]

Than commando

[fierce radish]

That’s the problem

[solid hinge]

Not m1911

[fierce radish]

Yea

[solid hinge]

It's a one shot pistol give it a decent payload

[stoic breach]

If the De Lisle OHK up to 10m it would be ok

[fierce radish]

The bolt action carbines are better than actual bolt actions

They can’t be even better

[main grove]

That’s because bolts are not good

[fierce radish]

Can fire while scoped

More ammo on average

[main grove]

They are due a big velocity buff

[fierce radish]

No

[main grove]

But I miss sweet spot

[fierce radish]

It’s cuz of ammo and firing while scoped

Sweet spot was dumb tbh

Fun but dumb

[main grove]

If bolts had sweet spot then you don’t need the straight pull

[fierce radish]

Cuz dice can’t balance bolt actions

[main grove]

Bolts aren’t meant to be all about the follow up shot

Bolt carbines are

[fierce radish]

Yea

But one shot becomes op

[stoic breach]

It doesnt

Because its not fast

[fierce radish]

And sweet spot is too inconsistent

Yea it does

[stoic breach]

Sweetspot is incredibly consistent

[solid hinge]

i dislike sweet spot

[main grove]

It’s not OP when most automatics can do you in in a couple of seconds at sniping ranges

[solid hinge]

it's BORING

[fierce radish]

Yea

[solid hinge]

the AT rifles already cover that anyway

[stoic breach]

So not being able to kill people is more fun than sweetspots? @solid hinge

Nice

[main grove]

Sweet spot made bolts more unique and actually viable

[solid hinge]

Yes.

[fierce radish]

And by inconsistent I mean multiple rifles over lap into each others

[stoic breach]

Thats not a bad thing

That doesnt make it inconsistent

[main grove]

Bolts need to be very good

Not just good

Give them all the advantages

All the buffs

[solid hinge]

i don't like the idea of how it would work with the lean mechanics

[fierce radish]

Did u guys ever play bf1 hardcore

[stoic breach]

Yes

[strong parrot]

#removeboltsaddmoreslrs

[stoic breach]

It fucking sucks

[fierce radish]

It was a mess due to bolt actions

[tribal cairn]

Yes, it was all bolts

[solid hinge]

get a dude peeking down the end of aerodrome hanger insta-killing someone with every shot

[fierce radish]

Exactly

That’s what bf5 would be

[tribal cairn]

Personally, I didn't mind

[stoic breach]

Thats because bolts get an infinite OHK in hardcore

Plus ADS speed is too fast

[fierce radish]

It get annoying real fast

[stoic breach]

And you dont get rainbow glint in hardcore

[main grove]

You don’t understand unless you can always land heads bolts will always lose to most automatics at most ranges

[stoic breach]

Because it doesnt matter

Also suppression doesnt matter in hardcore

[fierce radish]

Just imagine shooting at someone just to get instantly offed by a bolt

[solid hinge]

Not beyond like 50 metres unless you literally just stand still while cycling

[main grove]

Tbh they could add a little more sway

[fierce radish]

Fire rate doesn’t matter there

[main grove]

It barley exists right now

[stoic breach]

It absolutely does matter

Being able to kill a single person quickly isnt OP

Its about DPS and KPM

[fierce radish]

It would be a weapon that works at all ranges

[strong parrot]

1200 rpm mg42 steps into the room

[fierce radish]

They would be so op

[solid hinge]

The advantages of the bolts in bfv is basically the 0 sway and the accuracy while moving

[stoic breach]

But sweetspots dont work at all ranges though

[fierce radish]

No one shot bolts

[strong parrot]

someone say kill 1 person fast?

[fierce radish]

Someone mentioned one hit kill bolts razen

[main grove]

Which are not what bolts should be @solid hinge
That’s what bolt carbines should be

[fierce radish]

No

[strong parrot]

whats a bolt carbine? oh a superior bolt

[fierce radish]

That should be fire rate

[main grove]

What’s the point of a bipod in a bolt in this

[fierce radish]

And maneuverability

[main grove]

Like actually

[fierce radish]

None

Bipods are jokes

[strong parrot]

to fuck you up by deploying when you dont want it to?

[main grove]

There should be

[strong parrot]

and then you die because you couldnt move

[solid hinge]

im not giving up on the idea of bolts with ludicrously high velocity and unrevivable headshot kills

[stoic breach]

The fire rate is what stops bolt actions from being too strong

And sweetspots dont work at every range

[main grove]

I wish bolts had maybe more sway but way higher kill potential

[ornate sail]

[strong parrot]

still salty about that 7 man team on top of the the aero control tower huh

[solid hinge]

god

it was literally uncounterable

nothing in this game has any fucking splash

you can't confirm any kills

[strong parrot]

know what that enemy team was saying to you?

[solid hinge]

STOP MAKING ME LAUGH IM TRYING TO BE MAD

[strong parrot]

[main grove]

I don’t get it do people hate Braddock or something

Because he’s the person that gets blamed for all that DICE does?

[solid hinge]

genuinely my face

[strong parrot]

if it was only so simple

dudes turned into a walking meme machine

[solid hinge]

I don't hate him, but I don't like a lot of his responses

[strong parrot]

like yeah youre going to get shit because people are annoyed aka fucking pissed, with what the devs are doing

but dont go out of your way to make it worse all the time lol

dudes literally the joker in dark knight standing in the middle of the road saying "hit me come on..hit me!"

[main grove]

Dude if I was harassed by redditors all the time I’d be fucking snarmy as well

[tough lodge]

[main grove]

Fuck em

[strong parrot]

is reddit worse than twitter?

[main grove]

Usually

[solid hinge]

When there's 0 communication from devs for weeks and everyone is mad about bugs and shitty balancing etc saying shit like "it's not happening that's the reply" is not only unhelpful but literally just serves to make people more mad

[coral fiber]

Both are equally bad

[solid hinge]

which is like

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah @main grove scope sway is just an annoying mechanic that should only apply when being suppressed

[solid hinge]

the opposite of your job role

[strong parrot]

also hes smarmy to people that arent exactly giving him shit first so its like

[stoic breach]

Its a mechanic that literally stops you from doing your job

[main grove]

I wish they didn’t nerf the fuck out of suppression now

[solid hinge]

I do agree that he gets a lot of shit but like, he gets paid for it

[main grove]

Like why bother spitting lead at people now to rattle them

[solid hinge]

Like I'd take shit from reddit if I got a paycheck

[stoic breach]

Yeah, that was one of the things that balanced sweetspots

[main grove]

Another thing that hurts MMGs

[strong parrot]

hes not the global CM though

[stoic breach]

You could just suppress someone

[strong parrot]

talk to welsh about the survey data i have no power!

🏃‍♂️

[stoic breach]

To stop them from being able to OHK you

[coral fiber]

YES