Haven't check it out
#battlefield-legacy-titles
meager spoke
Its better than bf1
tawny spear
BF1 gameplay feels a little... let's say casual
meager spoke
They've been making changes to make i5 more accessible to new players
Yeah bf1s more casual
tawny spear
I hope this game has more relaible on teammates
tawny spear
I heard people hates it but 20 bucks for this game wouldn't that bad
meager spoke
Its honestly not that bad
Everyone makes it out to be the spawn of satan
YouTubers especially
They only complain about it
Its a good game if you play it
Everyone here complains but still play it every day
tawny spear
Kinda impressed how it's only 100GB
meager spoke
Maybe
Maybe i just got confused
There's not that mant good guns in the game rn
Medic and recon is the best classes
tawny spear
I saw people complained about Type 2A
Is it broken?
I kinda like using broken guns
meager spoke
Its the best close range gun
It shoots like 1200rpm
And you can put a 50 round mag in it
If you go in an engagement more than about 20m with a longer range you can beat it easily
Its not really the god gun its made out to be
tawny spear
Is this game has long bullet drop?
meager spoke
What bout them
The arisaka has 750ms
Everyone complains about the low velocity on bolt actions
People seem to want straight pulls too
The bullet drop isnt that bad once you get used to the ranges and how far to aim up
tawny spear
Anyway what Xbox you got?
meager spoke
S
tawny spear
Does the framerates sucks
tawny spear
I kinda worried my base PS4 not gonna hold up
meager spoke
Sometimes its pretty glitchy
The ea servers suck a bit
They randomly kick you out and will.make spawing in a nightmare
Theres no microtransactions except for skins
Thats a plus
So its not pay to win
tawny spear
Wait no paid DlCS?
meager spoke
DLCs?
tawny spear
paid DLCs like BF1
meager spoke
None of those
tawny spear
Wow
meager spoke
They've been releasing new content in chapters
I think we are on chapter 7rn
Not sure tho
tawny spear
paid DLCs prevent me from joining servers every time
on BF4 and BF1
So that's kinda a plus I guess
They have a metro map?
meager spoke
Yep
Operation underground
Its a bit boring though
Not the best
People enjoy the new Pacific maps alot
tawny spear
Nah I kinda like metro map
meager spoke
You unlock the guns by leveling up each class
tawny spear
No battlepacks
meager spoke
And you can buy a few using cc that u unlock by levling up ur character
No battle packs
meager spoke
They made the ttk slower
Ttk=time to kill
There's a hacker problem but only on pc mainly
People like the other games
tawny spear
How slow?
meager spoke
And when they change things thet get annoyed
tawny spear
Like 20 ms?
meager spoke
Still fast
Just slower
They basically made all the guns worse except a few
Making only a few viable
tawny spear
Like when new game release though
tawny spear
So one more year I guess
meager spoke
Possibly 2
They've had more time to work on it so it is hopefully better
I think they'll have had 4years to work on it whereas a previous 2
tawny spear
Enough time for me to git gud at this game
meager spoke
Yeah
tawny spear
I always get 5-11
meager spoke
It took me a while
I started on assualt back when it was good and now my stats for assault suck
After a few days then you're good
tawny spear
Can you use headphones for this game like Apex?
tawny spear
Like plug in headphones and start talking right away
meager spoke
Yeah
You can talk to your squad
Squads are up to 4 people
You can check your stats At battlefield tracker
tiny drum
You can plug in the headset to create audio annoyances for up to 4 players
Some options are eating, jet engine and talk to someone in person with the headset on
meager spoke
Not that many people us3 headphones
tawny spear
COD has the worst mic talking ever.
meager spoke
When they do they do do that
tawny spear
On BF1 people actually chat
meager spoke
Id recommended just finding your own group
tiny drum
I’m on Xbox I can confirm
meager spoke
Bfv voice chat sucks
tawny spear
I played WW2 for like 10 mins and already have to mute it
meager spoke
Not the games fault
tawny spear
Yea players fault
tiny drum
Honestly squad and team players that are really good are taking a break from BFV
They have to when it bombs
meager spoke
You can do fine without a squad though
Only dickheads go in organised squads anyway
tiny drum
I’m not even trying to toot my horn but all I do is heal and revive and ptfo and whatever but the game is always up and down
So I’m waiting for 6.2 to see how that goes
And until then I see no point in playing the game and my other squadmates agree so we split until it gets better
meager spoke
6.2 will revert the ttk changes right?
meager spoke
Thats good
tiny drum
And frankly with aim assist zoom snap I need a break
tiny drum
Well I’ve seen variants of 5.2 that were shit and rejected by the community
Like the ttk last chrismas
meager spoke
All the trash still potatoes
tiny drum
We need to remember that dice has also used builds off 5.0 that were hated by everyone just the same
tiny drum
A higher damage output for more overall recoil
prime pine
The new recoil would be shit with the fg42, m1907 and that
When before hand they had nasty recoil
coral fiber
Is the selbstader 1917 good?
prime pine
Yeah
tiny drum
When you look at how dice balances everything it links recoil right to damage
prime pine
Big mag
meager spoke
All recon gud
tiny drum
Ross is a fun recon
tiny drum
I like it
meager spoke
Same
tiny drum
I see it playing better with specs like the ross or lee enfield
meager spoke
I grinded to get it and it's not even that good
tiny drum
Like it was the basic german gun I would have seen it better as being faster firing and closer medium ish type
tiny drum
But it’s geared to be a long range sniper so it only works well used as such
meager spoke
And its always like the best gun
tiny drum
Unless you are 50 or more metres away from targets the kar98k is meh
meager spoke
I guess i didnt use it that much
I think i jut liked the krag a bit more
It had a faster fire rate and head shots are easy so i liked it more
Night
tawny spear
Guys What gun is unlocked at first is good too used as medic?
cyan raven
never going to get these dang firestorm assignments done. 40 kills? 5 kills in a game? 10 wins? downing an enemy with a liberator? cmon. this is going to take me 2 weeks.
coral fiber
https://gameclips.io/GETMEMEDONLOL/3d0b157a-0cd3-4757-861b-8bcb589f77c4/embed
Wholesome emergency landing :)
solid hinge
this week challenged are easy
fresh cypress
wow
a hacker from a game 2-3 hours ago is still hacking in another game
thank you dice
for not noticing a guy 81-0
headshots only
as a level 21
tight rain
Wait? Are you saying thats not normal?
coral fiber
I get the hate y'all but this is too much
coarse thunder
Literal 4chan meme
tight rain
The bfV subreddit bitches about everything
keen spade
you know lets say chapter 7-8 is a US vs Germany chapter
how do you think they will balance the tanks out
since Germany has the Tiger tank
little raptor
They need to give Supports another anti air gun
keen spade
if we ever get a battle of the bulge it only makes sense if the germans get the Tiger 2
little raptor
planes in this game are fucking awful
keen spade
while Americans get the M26 and T32
tawny spear
What is the best button to sprint?
solid hinge
make incendiary bullets actually do something
little raptor
yeah
tawny spear
I am tired of using R3 to sprint
little raptor
whats the status on this game
coral fiber
Dead
little raptor
what are the devs planning on doing for 6.2?
keen spade
i mean so far we've been getting hints a near future Chapter will be American vs German
solid hinge
Nothing from the sounds of it
coral fiber
Maybe some info next week but idk
keen spade
The P-51 leak is one give away
coral fiber
Braddock did mention the devs are finalizing the build and should be sent to certification by Friday
keen spade
and i don't see the P-51 being a pacific plane
they did see action there
but not as common as in europe
coral fiber
Yes
prime pine
Honestly im wondering if they're not giving him enough info
coral fiber
But yeah a
He also said after they send the build to get check and certified
They'll share some info
solid hinge
I'd bet they're just not telling him anything
Or giving him strict limits on what he can share
prime pine
I still remember the chauchat thing
coral fiber
Because pending certification
The locked date will shift
prime pine
He cant tell what's going on
coral fiber
And ya know if he tells the community a date of release and it shifts
What is everyone gunna do?
Bitch about it ofc
ahem reddit ahem
Also more fixes should be added to the trello tomorrow
solid hinge
My beef is that they've tried to be more transparent like 5 times and got worse literally every time
coral fiber
Which i think will be the info he's talking about
solid hinge
We get so little information right now
solid hinge
I still don't know if tank armour is actually broken
coral fiber
I don't either lol
solid hinge
Maybe.. maybe its working as intended
coral fiber
Could be idk
prime pine
Maybe AT should be better considering its state
little raptor
They said that its a possiblity we'll get info on 6.2 on Friday, right?
which is today, right?
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solid hinge
An announcement of a maybe announcement
prime pine
Updates usually happen on tuesday/thursday
coral fiber
Just incase you need it
little raptor
They are making it sound like 6.2 balance patch is gonna be the main thing
coral fiber
Jacub who manages the trello will say something on twitter
prime pine
Plus why are people thinking we'll get the patch very soon
Guess people are at their breaking point
little raptor
god, i dont want to beat a dead horse, so lets just say i really want the 6.2 balance patch to be substantial
prime pine
They'll most likely fuck it up
coral fiber
Might play r6 with the boys again because the new season is interesting
coral fiber
Like 70 days ago or somthing
little raptor
end of Nov, Early Dec
solid hinge
fucking christ
prime pine
End of nov yes
solid hinge
literally 3 months
coral fiber
Yep
solid hinge
we've had almost no information for 3 months
about anything
this is a fucking shambles
coral fiber
But ya know
It's whatever
little raptor
thing is, I'm not sure how much can be salvaged with 6.2, cause the biggest loss was the positive momentum that came from 5.0
prime pine
People were crying that they get mapped by submachine guns
solid hinge
they literally were so good at 5.0
little raptor
so uh... i dunno, im just hoping that the game can feel as lethal as it was before
prime pine
4.6 and 5.0 were so good
little raptor
yeah
coral fiber
Over 50m+
prime pine
It is but they could have done that not change the basics for everything
shy badger
Did it really happen that often though?
prime pine
Yeah thats the thing
little raptor
it was, but as has been discussed, that shoulda been balanced with bullet spread
shy badger
Even on pc where aiming is easier it rarely happened
prime pine
It was a submachine gun. Who the fuck uses them at a range
little raptor
it was more of everywhere was lethal
i think the biggest issue was MMG's
DICE was very explicit that they saw MMG camping as a problem
coral fiber
Holy shit i never did the fg42 tow challenge last week
prime pine
Those should have been nerfed. Nothing else. Thats the problem.
shy badger
The only problem with mmgs was them being annoying imo, they weren't op
little raptor
rather than specifically nerf MMG's, I guess their mentality was to change the dynamic of the game
prime pine
And look where we are now. No one trusts dice anymore with this game.
little raptor
so that MMG's dont feel targeted, ya know?
solid hinge
i still think it was orchestrated by higher ups to increase the average life of new players
prime pine
When they still get melted by players using meta guns
solid hinge
multiple devs have said it wouldnt be like this if it were up to them
little raptor
yeah i mean, if you do the one singular thing your community has told you not do, you're gonna lose trust, so
solid hinge
they added medic trains
coral fiber
IF
solid hinge
literally can only be for the benefit of new players
they havent addressed rare cosmetics behind boin paywalls
even the snap aim
prime pine
They also wanted to individually balance the new weapons
coral fiber
Even tiggr said on reddit that if he were in charge of the game entirely
It would be so much different rn
prime pine
Which
little raptor
Thing is, they've got the data and we dont. we can argue with them if they arent willing to share it
prime pine
Is bullshit because they would have been fine with the old model regardless
coral fiber
Which kinda tells you that DICE isn't in the right state rn
prime pine
Instead now shit like the M2 is useless
solid hinge
where the type 100 outperformed literally every single bigmag smg
little raptor
well they said that they liked the data they returned, saying kills per minute is higher now
which... k lol
prime pine
It outgunned a light machine gun
solid hinge
that's cause people get revived more i bet
cause they removed the revive limits
kill someone at range
little raptor
wait hold on
prime pine
People can be revived instantly now
solid hinge
relief
prime pine
Its so fucked
solid hinge
kill again
little raptor
Even tiggr said on reddit that if he were in charge of the game entirely
It would be so much different rn
@coral fiber
where did he say that?
coral fiber
What i don't get is how they said they got positive feedback about guns at range given from their data
I called bullshit on that
Gimme a sec
shy badger
I also remember he said that, I think it was in his retirement post
solid hinge
i killed the same 3 dudes like 7 times with the ZH and then fucked up the last shot and they all got away
prime pine
little raptor
nono
prime pine
Its obvious he didnt have the power to do anything
solid hinge
The positive feedback
prime pine
I was reminded of this
little raptor
thats the famous response to the old one
prime pine
But how much positive feedback is there in comparison to the negative feedback
coral fiber
prime pine
Can you guys imagine a big blog post in the end of bf5
coral fiber
@little raptor
prime pine
Yes
solid hinge
oh shamse
little raptor
oh
coral fiber
I just want this game to get good
I thought so in 5.0
And here we are now...
shy badger
😦
solid hinge
little raptor
Oh...
solid hinge
we are in the dark timeline
remember when he said team balance was bugged 14 months ago
little raptor
Tiggr was the man who brought the team back together after Chapter 4
hes gone now?
prime pine
Yes
coral fiber
Yep
little raptor
that completely reshapes my expecations
coral fiber
He's leaving in march
solid hinge
"ok im back from holidays where the fuck is the fixed team balance"
costs money no balance
"ok what about anti cheat"
costs money no anti cheat
"ok im leaving"
ok bye
open surge
lol Lewis gun is so ez
coarse thunder
🏃 💰
open surge
how could they let this gun exist
coarse thunder
Ask Britain
coral fiber
Lewis gun was so good in bf1
little raptor
it all makes sense now
the game really is just being fucked into oblivion by higher ups
ok well
solid hinge
not to tinfoil hat
but it literally
it literally has to be
tiggr woukdnt be saying stuff like that otherwise
little raptor
with that, I've played enough Korean MMO's to know when something is a lost cause
I'll dip by when 6.2 comes out, but uh
tis been fun guys
👋
stoic breach
Lewis gun being easy to use is a good thing
coarse thunder
Hard to retain hope with a very transparent development intent and people using this server as a personal rant page
stoic breach
Who actually enjoys using hard guns that arent equally as strong as being difficult
Bad weapon: bolt action
Skill weapon: AGm42
coral fiber
Im still retaining hope
I don't know for how much longer
I've stuck to this game since the beta
white lotus
Giv Crusader Tank
prime pine
Lewith gun!
stoic breach
Also this
Easy to use but generic: Lewis gun
Harder to use but stronger: FG42
Well, in 5.0 anyways
👽
meager spoke
Same lol
tight rain
While its no first place, good to see the mg42 high on the list
meager spoke
Im pretty sure mine is wrong
coral fiber
I used to use it
shy badger
Mine too, it's probably because it counts the time you're in a vehicle as using the sten
Yea I just checked, my second most used gun despite having less than 10th the amount of kills of the first 😛
meager spoke
Yeah
robust pecan
battlefield more like call of duty
tawny spear
More like COD is trying to be BF
tough lodge
@tawny spear lattey sight
tawny spear
Is it unlockable?
meager spoke
Lattey sucks
tawny spear
I'm new to the game, by new I mean I just started playing for 30 mins
tight rain
Welcome to the game GFX
robust pecan
who here is a fortniter
meager spoke
Ew
tawny spear
I'm ready to get DICE'd
meager spoke
If anyone says yes they should get banned
robust pecan
i am
tight rain
Not my style of battle royal, but its a fairly well done game
tawny spear
They made money by comestics which kinda surprising
robust pecan
money
tawny spear
Crappy 60Mbps network
robust pecan
what
tawny spear
I saw some dudes using lunge mine and katana
robust pecan
my computer can run roblox at a soild 30-40 frames
tawny spear
Are those hard to unlock
tawny spear
I don't see it in any class
open surge
man I hate how people play this game
meager spoke
Its a good game
tawny spear
I'm playing on Japanese side byw
open surge
I mean play style
meager spoke
You can pick up a katana
They spawn in on pacific mape
I thought u said many
I added a word in
tawny spear
I know but A B C D E F?
meager spoke
In my head
tawny spear
I'm playing on Pacific Storm
meager spoke
The ones on japs side have katana and Americans have flamethrower
U can pick uo either tho
tawny spear
Damn Garand sound so sexy
tawny spear
Damn Type 2A is broken af
meager spoke
Lewis gun is real good when you put on the extened mag
tawny spear
How long I have to grind for it though
tawny spear
Type 2A
stoic breach
Type 2A isnt broken
meager spoke
It cost cc
tawny spear
Banana mag
long coral
халоу ебать русские есть
tawny spear
I should have look at my loadout
long coral
ступид омериканс
stoic breach
Its just a feedback loop of "get killed by Type 2A > complain about Type 2A being OP > use Type 2A > kill people with Type 2A > cause someone else to complain"
meager spoke
Americans arent that bad
stoic breach
Its not a god weapon like people think it is
tawny spear
Yea but almost every enemies on my lobby use it
stoic breach
Its just easy to use and fun to use because of the rate of fire
Thats just popularity
meager spoke
You do sound like an evil villain plotting though apushkin
stoic breach
Its not broken
Also the fact you get infinite self healing
Lets you tank extremely well
And smoke grenades that let you run towards people
tawny spear
I thought only medic can self heal?
meager spoke
@long coral y u being edgy
stoic breach
They can infinitely self heal
And have SMGs
The best CQB weapons in the game
So of course people are going to flock to it
long coral
каво
tawny spear
I'm learning I guess
long coral
падаван лох
cedar crown
for mother russia!
meager spoke
Hes jusr saying random words lol
stoic breach
Its funny cause reviving is worse than in BF1
stoic breach
Now people have SMGs and run towards danger constantly and try to revive and die
Also smoke spamming hoping to revive people exactly where the enemies who killed them are
meager spoke
английский? @long coral
stoic breach
I prefer BF1 "sniper" medics because at least there were also proper CQB options in terms of weapons
Plus medics that hang back dont die as often as medics who blindly rush enemies
No SMGs means no rush and no medics sacrificing themselves in bad situations
meager spoke
Америка отстой @long coral
long coral
da
cedar crown
@stoic breach its not about the SMG's its about the people using them because they just wanna get easy kills doesnt mean the gun is bad they just wanna get the revive points without properly inspecting area to make sure its clear of enemies before reviving their teammates like yesterday as i said i was playing TDM's and for an instant when i get shot and medics are near one pop smoke and come and revive while the other one is clearing out the threat
battlefield has always been about teamwork regardless of the game mode you're playing
stoic breach
If medics didnt have smokes would they even want to revive
meager spoke
лол
cedar crown
its their role tho
stoic breach
In BF1 you never needed to run smokes because you were good enough at midrange not to need them
cedar crown
ik i do
stoic breach
Plus revives were much faster allowing you to get people back in the game faster
But were cooldown based so you couldnt spam them
cedar crown
yep true
meager spoke
I did like old revives
tawny spear
Guys
stoic breach
Of course people would want to get easy kills because the nature of the game is to get kills
Its an FPS
long coral
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Russia is our beloved country.
Mighty will, great glory are
Your property for all times!
Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
A centuries-long union of brotherly nations,
Peoples’ wisdom given by the foregoers!
Be glorious, country! We are proud of you!
meager spoke
@tawny spear ye
tawny spear
What is the difference between Grand Operation and Conquest?
stoic breach
And also draining your enemies tickets is more valuable than trying to revive one person
stoic breach
BF1 "sniper" medics could undeniably help out in your gunfights from much safer distances
meager spoke
🎉 🎉
long coral
💩
meager spoke
Snipers were really good in bf1
stoic breach
Which helps drain enemy tickets, and may even save you from dying because they could hit someone at a range further than you can
wind shale
once 6.2 hits and assaults are the jesus class again medics will be fine
stoic breach
A medic who prevents you from dying is better than a medic who lets you die and tries to pick up 100 free points by reviving you
wind shale
i revive as much as i can, but i do it a lot more than normal in offense breakthrough
since you know, limited respawns
cedar crown
grand operations is like arm objectives mixed with breakthrough and conquest
while conquest is just capture the flags on one map
wind shale
i tend towards midrange smgs anyways so it makes safe reviving a bit easier
stoic breach
People like to argue about "clearing rooms" and getting close to the action, but the fact of the matter is that there wont always be rooms to clear, unless you count ranges of 50m+ as "rooms"
cedar crown
m3 grease gun is good for mid range
wind shale
eh
emp and mp40 are better
even the 2a is honestly
mp40 is a laser beam at mid range
is absurd
meager spoke
It aint got no recoil
wind shale
emp has laser hipfire as well
cedar crown
i never used the emp before
stoic breach
Medics being good at range is ultimately good for the game because they can be more flexible about the way they play
Medics would be perfectly suited for assault rifles in BFV
wind shale
its the fastest firing smg that keeps its 4 btk at melee range while having less severe damage dropoff then the close range smgs such as the light bolt zk/suomi/tommy gun/2a/mp28/grease
stoic breach
Since midrange SMGs are already popular for players who want to hang back more
Yeah even in 5.2 EMP is decent
wind shale
it kills in one less bullet than the suomi/tommy/mp28 after like 10m
stoic breach
It doesnt fire fast enough for the "fast" SMG damage model
wind shale
mp28 is alright but the suomi is literally a straight upgrade
stoic breach
Its like a slightly less pathetic FG42
stoic breach
MP28 should've shared the EMP's damage model
wind shale
same damage model but higher recoil probably
stoic breach
Nah
tawny spear
Guys what is the metro map name
wind shale
operation underground
stoic breach
Both weapons are like medium-hipfire weapons
cedar crown
yep
tawny spear
Finally no tanks
cedar crown
lol
wind shale
emp feels like it has better hipfire tbh
stoic breach
It does
wind shale
i run hipfire specs on both
wind shale
only ads spec smg i run is the mp40 lol
mp28 will still do better close than the emp
faster fire rate/extended mag jesus spec
give all smgs extended mags there we go
stoic breach
Its still weird how the MP40 is now better than MP28 in 5.2
In 5.0, MP40 was one of the worst SMGs you could use
wind shale
mp40 is so damn underrated
ive had some of my best games on the last 2 patches on it
not counting a couple tank games
stoic breach
Yeah cause its one of the better SMGs now
wind shale
but who counts those
id use the grease more but
too hard to use to make it worth it
stoic breach
10m 3BTK is pretty nice
wind shale
it is
stoic breach
Its like a baby Oden
stoic breach
From Modern Warfare
Honestly the M3 would be really nice if it was 3-6BTK
Or even 3-5BTK
wind shale
thats 5.0 numbers though
wind shale
i wish the grease had been a recon weapon or something tbh
give them another cqc option
stoic breach
Nah
wind shale
bring back my cqc recon builds please and ty
stoic breach
Recon could have some other really nice balancing options though
I dont like SMG recon, but theres other options available for balance
wind shale
give me my pp2000
stoic breach
Make bolt carbines Recon weapons, make AT Rifles gadgets, and make pistol carbines secondary weapons
So recon is Bolt action/SLR/bolt carbine
Reduce max ammo for pistol carbines so you can only reload once, and you have a decent secondary option that'll be really fun for recon players
And let them be really flexible about how they play
wind shale
no midrange medic option would be aids
stoic breach
Medic should have assault rifles
stoic breach
For the reasoning I stated above
Doesnt really matter about boring
Its better if its balanced
Plus theres alot of unique ideas for ARs that are already in the game, which would be perfect for a flexible midrange medic
If assault was SAR/SMG
They would beat medics at absolute close or long range
wind shale
the infinite healing absolutely suits cqc better
stoic breach
If medics want to compete at close range, they would have the M1907/M2 Carbine
And long range Breda
wind shale
if you give the infinite healing class a ton of midrange options it would be total aids to play against
stoic breach
Medics shouldnt have CQB power or infinite healing
Its totally cancer for class balance
Imagine if you played CSGO, and buying an SMG gave you health regen
wind shale
it wasnt bad until the range nerf on all weapons lol
stoic breach
You would be tankier than every other weapon category and dominate in CQB
wind shale
it needs an internal cd
stoic breach
Which is the current medic in BFV
wind shale
5-10 seconds
i should be able to spam my heal button while getting sprayed in the open
shouldnt*
stoic breach
Well if I say "remove healing and give every class 100hp regen within 5 seconds for balance" people start complaining because its not "battlefield" or "team based"
Even though the revive tool still exists
wind shale
yeah because people are dumb
stoic breach
But I guess everyone forgets about it during conversations here
wind shale
if we take 5.0 baseline
the changes that were really needed were a slight assault nerf and recon buffs
meager spoke
It was god
wind shale
semi autos were way way way too good
meager spoke
Yeah
stoic breach
Semi autos traded usability for power
wind shale
dead in half a second at 100m
and you can still be sprayed down instantly at melee range
stoic breach
A player with a lewis gun is still able to CC more than a player with an SAR
SARs dont have good enough spread for 100m
If you die within 5-6 bullets from an SAR instead of 3-4, it means the SAR isnt actually good at that range, and you just got unlucky
Like, 5-6 bullets being fired from the point of a full magazine
wind shale
sars were absolutely good at range
stoic breach
Its more the death experience doesnt give players the information about how long it took to kill them
They were good at range
But not at 100m
Every other weapon just needed to be buffed
wind shale
i mean its impossible to argue the differences with the games terrible netcode regardless
buffing everything else just leads to more instant deaths
might as well force everyone to play hardcore mode
stoic breach
Measured in terms of TTD from the first shot fired, netcode isnt that bad really
Buffing everything doesnt lead to instant death though
stoic breach
Assault rifles being able to kill in maximum 6 shots doesnt make them lasers at long range
Because of spread modulating hits at range
If you die faster than a gun can kill you, theres also the possibility of being shot by multiple people
I'm not ruling out netcode here
wind shale
part of it is the overwhelming presence of 150 ping players everywhere absolutely
it makes this all a little hard to judge properly
stoic breach
But it would be great if the killcam showed you where you got shot in which part of the body, and by how many people
wind shale
at least this game doesnt have 40x zoom scopes with snipers 1000m away
stoic breach
Actually yeah the game has been having netcode issues recently
wind shale
that shit was aids
wind shale
my ping went from 30 down to 9
then back up to 37
my connection from california to east coast is now 90
thats pretty horrendous
wind shale
worse than literally every other multiplayer game
stoic breach
90 ping is still considered good here
meager spoke
My usual eu ping is 5-20
stoic breach
If you have less than 40 it's considered really good
9 ping is impossibly good for anyone living here
meager spoke
5-20normie
wind shale
still had to fight chinese and europeans teleporting around with 150ms though
that was fun
stoic breach
I mean
Yeah
But you cant blame netcode at that point
That amount of latency is unavoidable across different regions
wind shale
point is that it shouldnt be happening at all
over half my game shouldnt be out of region players
stoic breach
Well yeah, players should be in their own regions
wind shale
queuing for a game will put you on the wrong servers constantly
i only use server browser but most people dont
stoic breach
Yeah the quickmatch shit is fucking stupid
wind shale
this game is just full of dumb shit
dice stumbled on good player movement and fun feeling weapons by sheer accident it feels like
since so much else is broken
stoic breach
Player movement is debatable
wind shale
sliding is an amazingly fun mechanic
stoic breach
But the weapons yeah
wind shale
as is crouch sprinting
stoic breach
It wasnt an accident, I know that much
solid hinge
dislike it intensly, sliding all the time looks stupid
sharp oxide
Sliding is really fun but doesn't it feel like the addition made the skill cap much higher?
stoic breach
Sliding should have 0 correlation with skill gap
sharp oxide
Kinda does for tracking. Especially sniping.
wind shale
problem is the default hotkey for slide on pc is turbo aids
stoic breach
And yeah I miss sprint reloading, but I cant play BFV anymore
wind shale
half the people dont slide at all
stoic breach
I've switched entirely to MW
wind shale
ive basically quit until 6.2
stoic breach
I mean, sliding in general is sort of unnecessary but its alright
wind shale
i cant play cod it just feels so bad
stoic breach
Its fun
wind shale
now those are 1frame deaths
sharp oxide
I've been playing BFH instead. TTK is much better on there.
stoic breach
MW2 had a faster TTK than MW2019 in some cases
wind shale
something about mw just rubs me the wrong waqy
way*
its hard for me to pinpoint why
stoic breach
Probably the lack of a good minimap leading players to camping
Which is the same problem BFV has
Still
opaque pecan
Well I gotta ask. Is dice ever changing the TTK?
solid hinge
I'ld like to see some sliding in the next ww2 movie, like imagine private ryan or band of brothers where the actors slid 200 meters and kept sliding all the time
wind shale
6.2 they are supposedly
wind shale
who knows
sharp oxide
@solid hinge wouldn't that cause rug burn and infections lmao
opaque pecan
man...
wind shale
they wont share anything
solid hinge
ell yeah
opaque pecan
I think I just reinstall BF4 again and wait till next year. I think I am pretty much done with BFV
wind shale
im probably in the minority here but i dont give a shit about realism in bf games
just give me a fun game
opaque pecan
agree
stoic breach
Yeah I hate it when realism gets in the way of gameplay
sharp oxide
Honestly just playing BFH a battlefield people really hated has been much more fun for me then BF5
wind shale
and half of them display 64/64 but are actually empty
stoic breach
You physically cant balance games properly based on realism
opaque pecan
I like Battlefield hardline actually.
tight rain
BfH is the best battlefield i have played
stoic breach
Unless the intention is to have bad balance
opaque pecan
Never really loved it. But it was certainly more fun then BFV
wind shale
better than bf1 at least
tight rain
I loved absolutely everything about it
opaque pecan
It was great agree
tight rain
I definitely gotta Play it again
sharp oxide
BFH atleast has diversity in gun choices. BFV is Type 2A or die.
stoic breach
BF1 is still my favourite BF game
tight rain
Bf1 is really good
stoic breach
BF4 is just boring for me now because the gunplay sucks and you use guns 90% of the time
tough lodge
Most bf4 guns have the same damage
wind shale
bf1 is just....nah
decent for atmosphere
unfun gunplay
give me back bfbc2 marshmallow bullets
stoic breach
The weapons for me personally were alot more interesting and all felt different
And actually killed in a timely manner
Plus spread balanced guns for different ranges so they could still have similar damage models
wind shale
random spread is just a no thanks for me
sharp oxide
MMGs...
stoic breach
MMGs also have random spread
sharp oxide
The worst random spread.
wind shale
do i look like the kind of beta who uses mmgs
stoic breach
The only weapons that dont get random spread in BFV are the SARs and pistols
wind shale
i only use melee weapons
tight rain
Hmm
sharp oxide
Also certain the rounds aren't coming from the barrel with that spread.
stoic breach
BF1's spread just worked differently because you werent supposed to use weapons at ranges that they were supposed to suck at
Something like the Automatico shouldnt be killing past 40m for example
stoic breach
Thats what 5.2 did
And thats why people dont like it
Because gunplay is extremely unintuitive and doesnt feel good
solid hinge
hmm but you haven't played 6.0 yet so how could you know
wind shale
except bfv didnt really need more recoil from 5.0 honestly
sharp oxide
5.2 doesn't show a good indication for 6.0 tbh.
stoic breach
My b
wind shale
at least not across the board
tight rain
Is 6.0 out?
wind shale
6.0 barely changed anything from 5.2.2
stoic breach
6.0 isnt out yet
tight rain
Darn
stoic breach
I made a DARN mistake
wind shale
pretty sure 6.0 is out
stoic breach
Its 5.2.2 right now
sharp oxide
Im guessing to balance the fact that BFV has sliding they gave console tracking assist?
stoic breach
I dont think anyone knows why they added aim assist
They release the patch notes before the update
wind shale
lol
gray glade
the only weapon balance 6.0 did was buff the ross and the arisaka
wind shale
so this 6.0 patch notes that says it added solomon islands
tight rain
Mmmm ross
wind shale
thats not out yet
stoic breach
yeah i got 5.2 confused with 6.0
wind shale
anyways folks
stoic breach
then i got 6.0 confused with 6.2
stoic breach
bye
tight rain
Good night
wind shale
o/
patent jay
someone want to play battlefield 1?
tight rain
Use one of the “looking for games” channels for that
last pebble
why when i opened bf V, my wifi connection always lost suddenly, the wifi icon changed to computer with "×" signs, anybody know how to fix it?
tight rain
Odd
last pebble
what's that?
tight rain
Its an expression one uses when they realize that person doesnt use the mg42
Usually paired with “why not?”
brisk field
where can i write a complaint to dice/ea about bfv?
solid hinge
reddit, twitter, the official forums
solid hinge
you know a few days ago we had someone here complaining that battlefield 2 is a buggy mess .. I was like .. are you for real
open surge
lol
heady lava
bfh is actually good
pastel grove
Evening everyone
shy badger
It was fine last time I played it, granted I only had 60-100 hours
prime pine
Finished Return to castle wolfenstein!
...For the first time in couple of years haha.
pastel grove
I did most of this week's challenges for chapter experience
heady lava
bf3
eager shore
Never heard of that Battlefield game.
prime pine
I've done them all already....
prime pine
Honestly i look forward to the ToW's for XP
pastel grove
Same
prime pine
Heylo
pastel grove
I really want those late tier melee weapons
prime pine
Even if they provide one level. It's still something. Being at rank 34.
pastel grove
Bolo knife and the sai
prime pine
The Sai? Yeah, That's cool.
pastel grove
Also Misaki because fuck it
eager shore
Nice that there's a Filipino melee weapon.
prime pine
I just want Misaki haha. Need a japanese elite.
pastel grove
I just hit rank 20 earlier 
eager shore
And Misaki has an Okinawan cutting tool.
pastel grove
Yeah that too
prime pine
After i've played with her enough, I'll switch her to my Assault for the japanese and providing we get the cosmetics from what we saw on the chapter 6 trailer, Well. I'll be happy haha.
pastel grove
Three new nice melee weapons, all used by the Japanese
prime pine
I want the Ghillie and flag boi outfit for my Recon and Medic.
pastel grove
I'll have her on Recon since she used kunai in her cutscene
prime pine
Kunai
Yeah
I do wonder will it turn in to Kunai if you play on the axis side as a recon
I mean
The german
pastel grove
I'd laugh honestly
prime pine
It'd be cool but understandable if they don't
pastel grove
also it'd be nice if more things did that
iirc the flare gun is a German leichtpistole
AT pistol is also German
pastel grove
Yeah hopefully
prime pine
Well it's not for leaks to be trusted more like if they're true
pastel grove
I take it you're referring to the Doppelschloss?
prime pine
Yeah taht one
pastel grove
Yeah it looks nice
prime pine
I hope it won't have the flash function. That'd be frustrating.
pastel grove
Flares are actually useless in caves at Iwō Jima
And most of Operation Underground
So that would be a nice addition
prime pine
I mean you can fire them outside plus the support from planes works
pastel grove
True, but Underground is a different story.
prime pine
But in underground there's barely any place to shoot down a flare unless it's at A and C
pastel grove
Yeah pretty much
If you're at the metro lobby with all the ticket booths, it's a nice spot to shoot some flares over the larger building
prime pine
It's incredibly useful during breakthrough for sure
I do like how in breakthrough even if you're pushed back your team can still win, It may not be completely over.
stoic breach
Yeah, the fact that flares cant be used underground is probably a good case for why the minimap should mark where people fire their weapons
prime pine
I do like the part where firing our weapons doesn't reveal where we are. Personally it's made me not rely on the mini map as often.
I'll look at it for teammates and where they have died and definitely a look when a flare goes up just incase.
pastel grove
Pervitin gadget when
prime pine
Pervitin?
stoic breach
Its the reason why people camp, because the minimap doesnt give enough useful information
pastel grove
Methamphetamine that the Wehrmacht used
stoic breach
Minimap spot when firing is essential for gunfights
pastel grove
prime pine
Oh deary
stoic breach
Because you can lose just by not having enough useful information
If you go to attack a camper or someone just being passive
prime pine
That works when you have options to wipe yourself from the map
pastel grove
It's basically one of the main reasons the Blitzkrieg worked so well
prime pine
But this time there isnt
stoic breach
Yeah, BFV has nothing of value in terms of information
pastel grove
Basically all of the Wehrmacht were convinced that pervitin was a good replacement for sleep
One even reportedly stayed awake for three days straight. In battle too
stoic breach
Delayed minimap spot when firing would be really good for the game, but there would need to be a way for the spot to disappear faster
And it would be like dropping a waypoint on the minimap, its not like it would 3D spot people constantly
It would just be the same way it is in BF4
eager shore
I personally don't want to go back to staring at my minimap to play the game, like Battlefield 4.
pastel grove
I think Göring himself was also on the shit
prime pine
I'm used to the fact that people won't appear in the minimap. It'd just feel cheaty in the end.
If they appear in the map
stoic breach
"Feeling" is irrelevant when balance is required
stoic breach
Thats not saying anything