battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

Abysmal game design

[brazen kayak]

i camped the river bank of c on solomon and just kept shooting

[balmy condor]

[solid hinge]

There's no way to identify a target inside the bushes

[brazen kayak]

felt like rambo

[solid hinge]

I can have a flare up and KNOW they're there and still not be able to see them

[brazen kayak]

its realistic as hell tho

[solid hinge]

No way

People can't run through bushes like they arent there irl

[idle breach]

camping in bushes ITCHY as hell

[brazen kayak]

the hiding

[solid hinge]

Running through that is really loud as well

[idle breach]

and itchy

[balmy condor]

Very itchy

[solid hinge]

You get one hit on these dudes and they vanish into the fauna

[brazen kayak]

i feel so vulnerable if im not hugging a wall or something

[solid hinge]

you can just prefire the bushes if you spotted players in there with a flare

There's just no way to track them

[brazen kayak]

^

prefire the whole game

gg

[solid hinge]

You lose visuals immediately

[shy badger]

@spare spoke Sort the servers by name in advanced search. You'd be lucky to find full servers and even then, it isn't guaranteed the admin is sitting there banning cheaters

[solid hinge]

thats why my playtime with support is off the charts lol

It's really bad design imo

[brazen kayak]

play a different map???

[solid hinge]

There's not enough explosives to fire into the bushes either

all i care about now is a balancer

Literally every pacific map suffers from this along with half the european ones

[brazen kayak]

all i care ab is the skins in this chapter

[solid hinge]

lmao

[brazen kayak]

they look good to me

[balmy condor]

I have so many complaints about bffv i could write a novel somehow i still have fun tho

[brazen kayak]

then dont play the game

oh good you have fun

yea the game is not polished at all

[solid hinge]

i have like 44k cc which im not going to waste on those skinds

skins*

[brazen kayak]

but it is fun

[solid hinge]

I might like Pacific more once they balance vehicles and stop the guns being shit at mid range

I've played freetoplay games which had way better looking skins

[brazen kayak]

apex

[solid hinge]

No. Alliance of Valiant Arms

[brazen kayak]

whatd you say?

apex?

[solid hinge]

No. Alliance of Valiant Arms
@solid hinge

[brazen kayak]

lmao

[solid hinge]

Died because it was Pay2Win

but skins were gorgeous tho

[spare spoke]

@shy badger awesome, there is hope for this game haha

tyty

[shy badger]

np

[dense bone]

finally tried the m2

every map i joined was partway through, and my team was getting stomped

but m2 seems alright

im convinced people think high rof and low vrec means a gun is op and easy to use

[solid hinge]

cough Type2acough

[dense bone]

exactly

even if that means the most hrec in the game which you cant control

but dont tell people that, they will say its a preference

[solid hinge]

I prefer not to use it and can still do decent with other weapons like the sten or fg42

it just spawned me in front of an enemy from objective spawn, then my lunge mine did 5 damage to a tank, then my AT grenade bounced off their tank

The game really doesn't want me to play today

lmao

Not to call it unplayable but when stuff doesnt die when you shoot it..

[dense bone]

fg42 ttk is slightly behind 2a

but it was almost no recoil

fg42 is sooooo easy to use

[solid hinge]

hm

which is why everyone is running around with it dropping you in 2 secs?

also getting triple kills because of the 50 bulle... oh wait

[dense bone]

2a is specifically effective under 25-30m

its extremely good between 10-20m

basically anything but shotguns beats the 2a over 25m

[solid hinge]

tfw shotgun dumps 4 shots into someone under 10 metres and fails to kill

holy actual fuck

[slender geode]

The 2a is dumb

[solid hinge]

Every minority needs to be represented

i guess

[shy badger]

Shotguns are very inconsistent

[haughty pawn]

shotty range is just crapshit

5m

[dense bone]

2a is dumb in the sense that people think its op

[shy badger]

They should have a set pellets spread imo

[solid hinge]

I think it is op

[haughty pawn]

the new one has the pellet radius reduce thing at least,which is very nice

[dense bone]

even though zh/1906 match its ttk at 20m and yet zh/1906 are essentially untouched at range

[haughty pawn]

can't recall the name

[solid hinge]

its such a braindead weapon

[shy badger]

The me37 yea

M37*

[solid hinge]

no effort whatsoever when you play with it

[shy badger]

I use that spec

[haughty pawn]

me 2,too bad you lose 2m range tho

[dense bone]

ehh, you gotta at least get close with the 2a

[solid hinge]

again they didnt die

holy fuck

[shy badger]

Otherwise I use shotguns with slugs usually

[solid hinge]

this thing isnt actually hurting people

this sucks

[slender geode]

With 2a mag size, rate of fire, range and dps it is op

[haughty pawn]

slugs are bugged as well aren't they ?

[dense bone]

you dont get mag size and rof together

[haughty pawn]

last time i tried them,headshot 10 dmg and shit

[solid hinge]

I also rush if i play as sniper because my playstyle is just running straight in. Type2a would completely complement it

[dense bone]

the range is ok at best

[shy badger]

Are they? Haven't used them for a while

[solid hinge]

which is why my sniper stats suck donkey ass

lol

[dense bone]

@solid hinge thats the thing imo, people finally used a weapon that complimented their playstyle

in this case casuals that zerg, 2a/suomi are perfect for that

but people needed a new weapon to realize that

[solid hinge]

Never use thoese

[haughty pawn]

but the hate you get killing someone with a crappy shotgun

[solid hinge]

im support main. rushing with lmgs and mmgs

[dense bone]

im just saying

suomi has been there the whole time, suomi is just a better ranged 2a with a ttk difference that is negligible

[solid hinge]

yup

[dense bone]

and yet no one used it

[haughty pawn]

cause you need to control the recoil

[solid hinge]

suomi is also used much in my experience

[haughty pawn]

which you don't on the 2a

[dense bone]

2a trades vrec for hrec

which is a horrible trade

[haughty pawn]

it's much easier to use

[solid hinge]

im currently trying to level my suomi to lvl 4

am at 2

[haughty pawn]

at least for me

i never liked the suomi tho

[dense bone]

i mean its easier, but you are just setting yourself up for the hrec to screw you over

[solid hinge]

overall lvl is 88 lol

[dense bone]

instead of just pulling down with the suomi

vrec is predictible, hrec isnt

[haughty pawn]

personal preference i guess

[dense bone]

one is objectively better

[solid hinge]

spawned in front of an ocean camping lvt again

[haughty pawn]

yes mine

[solid hinge]

then someone ran through my ap mine without it going off

this game fails to function on a basic level

[dense bone]

it takes a few matches to get used to the pull down speed, but once you do you will be way more efficient

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge Hehe. Pacific experience seems to be universal

i swear to god the bugs come out in full force during Pacific

[haughty pawn]

i tend to spawn on the opposite end of the map,so i can take a 5 min walk to the action...

[solid hinge]

it's the shittest experience I've had playing this game and that's saying something

thing i dont get is why defenders cant have like 1 at gun in a good position, instead of awkwardly towing one around

[shy badger]

If only we could pick up the AT guns without towing

And rotate them

[solid hinge]

entire squad dedicated to towing one at gun, i like it

or dig it in so a tank cant kill you with one hit

I mean it has a nice plate of armor but you either get killed or the entire at gun blows up

[shy badger]

At least it's good at sniping infis

[solid hinge]

Yeah that is fun

but not really usefull when there are like 5 tanks who are sniping your team

[blissful bane]

I'm gonna go see if I can get last bren challenge

hope i get breakthrough defence

[solid hinge]

20 kills without dying in objective area i guess?

[blissful bane]

ye

[solid hinge]

lol

[blissful bane]

breakthrough attack hmm

well maybe

[solid hinge]

I allrdy gave up on those assignments

Only got MG34 completely gold after the first month of launch

Then I just gave up

[blissful bane]

i nearly got bren in complete gold

as my first gun to gold

[solid hinge]

Nice. How much frustration did you have to endure?

[blissful bane]

A lot

[solid hinge]

🙂

[blissful bane]

but especially last one

I heard mmg ones are easy though

[solid hinge]

Lol

Considering you have to bipod most of them to be accurate its going to be a pain

proning the entire time

[slender geode]

I wish it was still like bf1 and u didn’t have to

[solid hinge]

maybe getting 3 kills before you get spotted and then sniped

yeah

or like getting a 100 kills and then 200 to 100 or smth

1000*

god

i got two lunge mine tank kills

and neither of them counted towards the assignment

which assignment?

because despite me blowing up the tanks I didnt deal damage towards them

I think Lunge is funny af

because it didnt register it

[slender geode]

I like lunge mine on people more than tanks 😂

[solid hinge]

i got +100 for killing the person in the tank but apparently I didnt hurt the tank

At all

Despite killing it

Twice

lol. contradictions

I hate this fucking game man

I hate it

haha

Never even paid attention to that

only glad i could kill a tank with it

[slender geode]

It’s so fun to just charge in with it and stick it right in someone’s chest and see them go flying 😂

[solid hinge]

I only had that happening once.

didnt even intend to kill that players, he just stepped in when i was charging a tank lol

[rose flicker]

It’s comical

[solid hinge]

yeah. more a meme than an effective weapon

Current tank meta doesnt support such a weapon at all, but whatever

If a tank charges the objective it can be effective

[shy badger]

I had a game where I was lunge mining a cheating teammate the whole match

Time well spent imo

[solid hinge]

You can kill teammates with it?

[shy badger]

No, but you can knock them over

[solid hinge]

lol

[shy badger]

https://youtu.be/pPn5l1SX3Gw like that

[solid hinge]

lol

Maybe the Lunge mine is Dice's secret AC

Shotguns dont work on prone people

[shy badger]

Best AC they have, no doubt xd

[solid hinge]

I would'nt know, I never use shottys

FUCK AAKE

FUCK THE STUPID LONG MELEE EXECURION

ITS SO FUCKING STUPID

[woven brook]

use this whenever someone pings you here

[solid hinge]

holy shit we actually won

[woven brook]

bless

[solid hinge]

only mildly tilting that I can scream that much and still come second

🥴

23 flag defended

nice

[stoic breach]

nice

[woven brook]

ur making me wanna play bf

[solid hinge]

yeah the game thinks the only damage I've done to vehicles with the lunge mine is the bugged 5 damage hits

ive blown up two separate tanks

but apparently I didnt actually hurt them

guess I just breathed on them or something

[stoic breach]

that sounds funny

[woven brook]

you didn't hurt the tanks, you hurt the driver

[stoic breach]

I'm always sort of tempted to reinstall BFV so i can shoot people with the Boys AT

[woven brook]

you freed the tank

I don't think I like you @stoic breach

jk

[stoic breach]

[hot drum]

Wait is the lvt light or medium tank?

[woven brook]

light I think

[solid hinge]

Weaker than sherman but stronger than a 38t or staghound

im having the most luck hipfiring the model 27

this is amusing

it homes in!

ok nah fuck this I've had enough of being killed by people in my flare who weren't spotted

today ain't for this shit bfv

fuck the assignment grinding

[woven brook]

it's been ages since I last did a bfv assignment

I literally still have assignments to do from day 1

[main grove]

Sherman and Type whatever tank are kind of in between light and medium

But closer to medium

While LVT and Ka-Mi are rather fast but slow to turn with

[blissful bane]

When your attacking team is too good

There wasn't enemies on objectives

So I couldn't finish it rip

[solid hinge]

HOW IS THE NEW MAP

sry caps

[rose flicker]

Fun

[solid hinge]

doubt that

but ok

[rose flicker]

Then why’d ya ask

[warm atlas]

Think they were expecting us to think it was crap

But it’s not. It’s good

[solid hinge]

it looks great tbh

[raw orbit]

It's fun but uhhh

I can't fucking see anybody

[icy sluice]

Pretty fun.

[solid hinge]

its great

im suprised

its the first time that turrets are useful

[gloomy kraken]

enemy mvp called me a noob

[idle breach]

noob

[solid hinge]

noob

[coral fiber]

Noob

[gloomy kraken]

Lol that round gave me my new best killstreak as Well.

[solid hinge]

urgh

when will this game stop being supported again?

[icy sluice]

What'd you use?

[gloomy kraken]

I used Panzer 4 with the Armor Piercing Rounds Now that they got buffed and damn they chew trough armor if you have the perfect angle and and area.

[icy sluice]

Oh yeah they do

[solid hinge]

yes

[gloomy kraken]

Been using the Valentine APCR rounds for months Now.

[solid hinge]

that what the war in the pacific shouldve been

[coral fiber]

Been using the case round

For the MEMEZ

[brave garnet]

I love the Valentine with snake launchers

[gloomy kraken]

And wanted a German equivelant but the Tiger APCR just feels really dissapointing.

[icy sluice]

Churchill Gun Carrier snake launcher is devastating

[brave garnet]

Really

[solid hinge]

if u dont answer me i will verachten all of you

[brave garnet]

I 2 shotted an Archer with APCR from the Tiger

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge 2021 fiscal year iirc

[brave garnet]

Right on its ass

[gloomy kraken]

Archers ass is the front tho

[solid hinge]

aah

[brave garnet]

Ik

[solid hinge]

still quite a ways to go

[woven brook]

wasn't it 2 years time?

[solid hinge]

imagine if the game from the start was about the soviets and this

one can only wish

[icy sluice]

This game is getting a 3 years life cycle in total

[woven brook]

uff

@solid hinge best for last

[coral fiber]

Mmm yes

[solid hinge]

im hopeful

i imagine that the final chapter would have no map

[woven brook]

That'd be a waste of opportunity tbh

[solid hinge]

and it would be called something like live the memory

[woven brook]

Imagine a Berlin map with this game engine

[icy sluice]

EA is loving these upcoming consoles

[solid hinge]

imagine a stalingrad

[woven brook]

yes

I want stalingrad

[solid hinge]

naaaaa it's all about them UNTOLD STORIES

[woven brook]

there are quite alot of untold stories in stalingrad

les go

[icy sluice]

They're doing big stories as well as the untold

[solid hinge]

yeah i think they figured out no one cares for untold

[icy sluice]

Iwo Jima for instance

[solid hinge]

hence all the new told maps

yep

[blissful bane]

imagine 128 v 128 kursk

with lots of tanks

[uneven hollow]

Yes

[icy sluice]

They're still including some untold battles

[solid hinge]

an all tanks mode would be fire

[uneven hollow]

Idk I felt like dice could’ve had 100 players in a match

[woven brook]

yeah

that and air superiority too

[solid hinge]

a better warthunder yknow

[woven brook]

with no russian bias

:')

[balmy condor]

i wonder if dice will do 100 players for bf6

[uneven hollow]

But will Their be tankettez tho

[icy sluice]

For how intensive the engine is "destruction" and all that, consoles would probably just die

[balmy condor]

tru

[woven brook]

well they could do what they did back in bf3

[icy sluice]

The upcoming ones maybe

[balmy condor]

consoles kaput

[woven brook]

i.e. 100 players on PC and 64 on consoles

[midnight nimbus]

I want BF to be 48p max

srsly

[uneven hollow]

That would be nice

[midnight nimbus]

big player count is such a bad meme

[uneven hollow]

Adding AI

[midnight nimbus]

MOAR PLAYERS MOAR GOOD HEHE

[woven brook]

yes

more chaos

I want chaos

[icy sluice]

It's just more enjoyable for me

[midnight nimbus]

40 and 48p has always played so well

[uneven hollow]

More chaos means more moments

[woven brook]

maps won't feel as empty

[midnight nimbus]

64p is just like okay at best

[balmy condor]

the big player count mixed with the chaos and destrucion makes bf fun

[midnight nimbus]

usually pretty shit

well 64p is fun in a vehicle

[uneven hollow]

100 players with 64 AI tuning in the map

[midnight nimbus]

40/48p hits the best infy / vehicle balance imo

[woven brook]

gotta agree to disagree there. I can't stand anything less than 64 player maps

[midnight nimbus]

i'd happily play 40p with a few dozen AI on each side

[woven brook]

but I'd understand the appeal of more quieter maps

it's just not my thing

[uneven hollow]

Yea I mean it’s alright if it’s a cod map but idk

[midnight nimbus]

nah mang I don't want more quiet

I don't wanna play on fuckhuge empty maps

nor do I want clusterfucks where you can't move

[woven brook]

ok but

[midnight nimbus]

Zavod 48p was absolutely kino

[woven brook]

Imagine fuck huge maps with a fuck huge player count

[uneven hollow]

Bfv maps are quite huge

[balmy condor]

i would like to play on heck huge maps with huge player count

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 shock ops was prime

32p frontlines was better

[uneven hollow]

Well yea because that’s a smaller mode

Less map

Same but shorter

[woven brook]

senko's got it

[balmy condor]

like panzerstorm but with 100 players maybe

[midnight nimbus]

on 64p, I find it pretty unfun without a vehicle

[woven brook]

yesss

[stoic breach]

Having AI units going around and repairing shit would be really great

So people can focus on shooting

[midnight nimbus]

AI units prolly better than avg BF player kek

[woven brook]

les make it 200 while we're at it

[stoic breach]

👽

[balmy condor]

[uneven hollow]

Bro

300

[midnight nimbus]

Battalion 1944 bots are unironically more threatening than the average BF player nowadays

[icy sluice]

20,000 servers

[woven brook]

100 on each team

it'd be beautiful

[balmy condor]

20,000 40,000

[uneven hollow]

How much can Arma player count hold

[balmy condor]

100 in each squad

[midnight nimbus]

100v100, chill in the rocket artillery

[woven brook]

bruh

[midnight nimbus]

eat snacks while clicking with the right hand

rack up big kills on the plebs who want to suffer

[stoic breach]

What about having AI-controlled tail gunners for planes, and pilots can just swap to that seat

So planes can be completely solo

[midnight nimbus]

^

[uneven hollow]

Bfv should add in food rations

[midnight nimbus]

what I've always wanted

[uneven hollow]

[woven brook]

brb making new battlefield game

[midnight nimbus]

AI gunners in the transport heli

turn it into the MW2 Stevie Wonder chopper

[uneven hollow]

Have the AI set on hard

[midnight nimbus]

though the transport heli was a dumb idea tbf

[woven brook]

o, did my chat just get deleted?

[stoic breach]

Yeah if only the Kolibri copter was in the game, and it was just a chopper gunner you could spawn with

[midnight nimbus]

historical settings are lame anyways

need modern

[woven brook]

No love for vietnam war then?

[stoic breach]

I think historical is alright if you bend it alot, to make everything more fun

[balmy condor]

i like ww1 and ww2 just as long as its done good

[midnight nimbus]

WW2 is kinda fun in small shooters

[woven brook]

[uneven hollow]

I felt like bfv could’ve been better if it had 100 players imo

[midnight nimbus]

WaW and B1944 are pretty kino

[woven brook]

same

[icy sluice]

I can't really get into small shooters now

[balmy condor]

i just dont want bf6 to be like cod

[midnight nimbus]

don't want big player count shooters that aren't modern

[woven brook]

weren't there like custom servers in really old bf games that allowed that?

I feel like I've seen servers with a really high player count before on games like bf2 and what not

[midnight nimbus]

transport heli 👎
MH-60L DAP 👌

[balmy condor]

after playin bf for so long small shooters i have lost interest in

[stoic breach]

I think I prefer bigger and a bit more open just cause you can get really interesting map design that way

[icy sluice]

I tried DOI and it was fine but didn't really make me wanna come back

[balmy condor]

unless its R6

i like R6

[uneven hollow]

Turn bf6 into Arma

[midnight nimbus]

I think map design was always the most forgiving with 40/48p

[woven brook]

@balmy condor I've lost interest in small shooters the second I knew about battlefield

[midnight nimbus]

single obj modes like frontlines are really forgiving of map design too

[woven brook]

I was a big Medal of Honor fan, then I played bf 1942

[midnight nimbus]

a lot of shit tier conquest maps were really good in BF1 frontlines

[stoic breach]

Yeah maps closer to Amiens with 40/48p would work well

[icy sluice]

Can do more shit in bigger maps, more things and moments happen

[balmy condor]

bigger maps and bigger player counts feel more immersive

[midnight nimbus]

smaller player count = less unplayable cluster fuck
more focused modes = still get constant action

[balmy condor]

less restrictions

[icy sluice]

Ok, I'm going back to work, y'all behave now.

[woven brook]

and tanks, planes

[balmy condor]

[woven brook]

the whole menu

[balmy condor]

bye riptor

[stoic breach]

I feel more immersed when I can find people to actually shoot at generally

[balmy condor]

hav fun at work

i would like more tanks and planes just as long as both sides are balanced

[midnight nimbus]

tank farming in 100p sounds hot though

imagine the salt

[stoic breach]

Large maps need focus points for constant energy, like frontlines and breakthrough

[woven brook]

the sandboxy feel of bf is what dragged me in

[stoic breach]

Yeah it would be fun for tanks and no one else

[midnight nimbus]

players don't handle multiple objs well

[balmy condor]

the bigger maps means a bigger frontline

[midnight nimbus]

I'm kinda pilled on even 3 flag domination being kinda shit

best way to win in Conquest or DOM is just holding half + 1

[balmy condor]

and more opportunities for flanks

[midnight nimbus]

unless you can go for the spawn trap

[woven brook]

and more different ways to complete your objectives

[midnight nimbus]

no one wants to just cap 2/3 flags and just sit there and chill

[solid hinge]

Domination is better because no set spawns

[woven brook]

it's just a different experience alltogether

[midnight nimbus]

same story with 3/5 conquest flags

[solid hinge]

Makes it harder to actually hold both points

[midnight nimbus]

the second you go for 3/3 flags in domination, you flip spawns and it's harder for you to farm

yawn

[solid hinge]

squad conquest feels fuckin awful in comparison

[midnight nimbus]

players don't handle multiple flags well at all

[stoic breach]

I think domination in theory works as a better TDM just cause players can be funnelled together

[midnight nimbus]

no one wants to play backcap nanny

[stoic breach]

If BF had something like hardpoint it would be way better though

[solid hinge]

Can't even farm when you spawn camp them because they leave immediately and it becomes 8 vs 5

[midnight nimbus]

guard the gimme alone and do nothing all game

[stoic breach]

Or just frontlines

[midnight nimbus]

yeah frontlines was good

[woven brook]

true

[midnight nimbus]

bc it's conquest, minus all the shitty parts of conquest

[balmy condor]

i like how in the description of pratice games it says "play with people ur level" and then get put with level 198 with gold type 2a

[solid hinge]

I don't mind defending backline on hamada because EFG is the only good part of the map in the first place

but fuck every other map

[woven brook]

maybe they meant your skill level

[midnight nimbus]

in Conquest, everyone wants to be in the middle of the action

no one wants to play backcap nanny

[woven brook]

but then they got them type a2s

[balmy condor]

yeh they mean skill level

[midnight nimbus]

so frontlines removes the backcaps and lets everyone play in the middle of the action

there's an actual frontline, so you can actually flank

[solid hinge]

god I miss frontlines

[balmy condor]

pepehands frontlines

[woven brook]

they're still the same skill level, they're just using a ridiculous gun

[balmy condor]

remember bf1 frontlines where the matches were so long you dehydrated

[stoic breach]

Frontlines in MW would be great as well

[balmy condor]

those were the days

[stoic breach]

Really wish they had used that as a base instead of conquest for GW

[midnight nimbus]

yeh

ground war only fun in 48p

[solid hinge]

i played squad conquest and got matched with clearly new people while i was sweating it with light bolt tommy back when they added that practice match thing

i think it just puts you in the squad conquest matchmaker

[balmy condor]

yeh i think so

[solid hinge]

which is so fucking stupid

[woven brook]

true. You'd literally launch the game and play one frontline match

[balmy condor]

i tried it and my team go absolutely hecked

[solid hinge]

the only people who play squad conquest are noobs and sweats

[woven brook]

suddenly you'd have a beard reaching your bellybutton and family thought you died

[solid hinge]

literally 99% of squad conquest matches end in spawncamping

[midnight nimbus]

the only people who play squad conquest BFV are noobs and sweats

[solid hinge]

its incredibly badly designed

[midnight nimbus]

ftfy

[solid hinge]

The only reason I'm sweating in normal modes is because I'm using bolts

[blissful bane]

well

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

First mistake

[woven brook]

hmm

[blissful bane]

sometimes i feel like i lose and theres nothing i can do

oh well

[balmy condor]

my light bolt suomi is my last resort in most matches

[blissful bane]

we lost last point with them having 270 respawns left

[woven brook]

I feel the same. Sometimes you can't help it

no matter how good you are, if more than half your squad is bad apples, you're gonna lose

[blissful bane]

and they took A and B at the same time when we had two

[balmy condor]

then theres the times where i sweat and still end up negative

[stoic breach]

Yeah Frontlines and Breakthrough as the primary modes for BF would be really sick

[woven brook]

can relate

[stoic breach]

Maps can be as big as they want

Just have to be linear

[solid hinge]

Conquest feels like the mode that is most reliant on not shit teammates

I hate it

[gray glade]

i wish they would publish the most famous game modes, maps and weapons

[stoic breach]

Jolly cooperation

[dense bone]

yea? thats all i play and they are consistently shit

[balmy condor]

most conquest games i find the team with the most tickets within the first two minutes wins

[woven brook]

yeah

[dense bone]

i joined a game like 5 minutes late yesterday and got most kills

by like 10 too

[midnight nimbus]

@stoic breach that's pretty much why people liked BFBC2

[woven brook]

I think bf1 is the only recent game where you could still make a huge comeback with half of the tickets of the enemy team

[midnight nimbus]

mechanically a shit tier game

but rush forced people in front of each other to fight

[solid hinge]

I did new map conquest yesterday and held the enemies two spawn objectives for the entire round basically by myself and still lost because my team couldn't get anything

[midnight nimbus]

meanwhile conquest

ppl struggle to find kills

there's no frontline

[stoic breach]

Yeah constant action is what people care about at the end of the day

[midnight nimbus]

die to someone you don't expect behind you

[solid hinge]

the maps are too big for conquest

[midnight nimbus]

which is one of the largest sources of churn in BFV

[stoic breach]

Only vehicle users really get the benefit of conquest

[midnight nimbus]

yes because vehicles can hold a frontline

[balmy condor]

in breakthrough i still sometimes manage to die by people i swear are coming from my own spawn

[woven brook]

haha

[shy badger]

I like the openness of conquest

[balmy condor]

I hate hamada conquest

[shy badger]

Linear is boring most of the time

[solid hinge]

imo the bigger a map is in conquest the less objectives it should have

[midnight nimbus]

meanwhile CS... clear obj in front of you, you know the bad guys are there

just go kill the bad guys

[balmy condor]

[woven brook]

The way I put it, they are different gamemodes, with different aspects to them, each got their own goods and bads

[solid hinge]

capital supremacy just suffers from abysmal game balancing in general

fuckin capital ship chokepoints

what if one team had heroes who could boost the health of their teammates and the other didnt

[woven brook]

Conquest is good if you want freedom of choice, more of that sandboxy feel

Breakthrough is good if you'd like a more organized and methodical feel

[solid hinge]

that sounds really fun

[balmy condor]

one time our team managed to board eachothers ship 10 times each i swear

[woven brook]

you got all flavours there

[shy badger]

Yup cloud that's the way I see it too

[solid hinge]

That’s why I liked frontlines a lot

[woven brook]

yes yes

[balmy condor]

breakthroguh is the best when balanced

[solid hinge]

Then they just removed it

The only freedom of choice in conquest is either joining the zerg or exercising attempts at futility with backcapping

[woven brook]

I sometimes like one better than the other than switch

[stoic breach]

BF players dont really play conquest as a sandbox though

[woven brook]

depending on me mood

[balmy condor]

i've had the most fun in breakthough

[stoic breach]

And the sandbox elements from BF4 dont exist in BFV

[solid hinge]

They play conquest like breakthrough

[balmy condor]

especially in panzerstorm

[midnight nimbus]

PVP sandbox is a silly meme anyways

[stoic breach]

Its a common argument that gets thrown around but its really unfounded

In BFV anyways

[shy badger]

bfv has been lacking in sandbox yea, but it's still more free than BT

You can choose which areas you want to fight

[solid hinge]

frontlines was the MOST sandbox

[midnight nimbus]

BF community: muh sandbox
also BF community: I love attrition, need forced teamwork

[shy badger]

Instead of being all forced to the same sector every time

[solid hinge]

because you could go literally 700 metres away from the objective

Frontlines is great

fuck hamada frontlines man

Yeah

All my homies hate hamada frontlines

[balmy condor]

hamada for me is just leave game

[solid hinge]

absolutely the worst map game mode combo in anything I've ever played

Twisted steel frontlines was where it was at 😳😳

[stoic breach]

Yeah attrition the ultimate sandbox mechanic

[solid hinge]

hamada frontlines is legitimately a pain in every way

[gray glade]

previous BF's felt more responsive to you moving around and stuff, now we got animations for everything, a part of the "only in battlefield" is gone because of animations now

[balmy condor]

twisted steel frontlines

[stoic breach]

Yeah the animations suck

[solid hinge]

Twisted steel frontlines does hit different

[balmy condor]

twisted steel best map

[solid hinge]

[midnight nimbus]

> emergent gameplay
> BF
kek

[gray glade]

twisted steel feels very market garden

[stoic breach]

Who cares if its more "realistic" or "immersive" when it gets in the way of reactive gameplay

[solid hinge]

Even the tanks in frontlines were comfy

[woven brook]

I feel like saying that 2 second animations ruined it is overexaggerating

[solid hinge]

One tank per team

Hold it with your team to push up

The whole team is able to focus on one tank

[balmy condor]

i love grand ops in france

[stoic breach]

Even better is if tanks can just solo

[balmy condor]

thats about it

[nova cedar]

is there a way for me to buy the bazooka or do i have to earn it

[stoic breach]

Without the team, and the team is strong enough without a tank

[solid hinge]

boins dont exist

earn it

[woven brook]

animations don't interfere with anything. Might make it harder, true, but wouldn't that make it feel even better once you nail a bf moment?

at least that's what I feel yo

[balmy condor]

boins are a social construct

[midnight nimbus]

48p with like 2-3 tanks per side is 👌

[solid hinge]

Tanks can absolutely solo right now

@nova cedar you can purchase tiers to get it but that’s not worth it

[stoic breach]

40/48p is the dream

[nova cedar]

yea okay

[stoic breach]

Just from playing BF1 Rush

[nova cedar]

thanks

[stoic breach]

I never got to play shock ops unfortunately

[balmy condor]

i did manage to blow up a bridge by accident with our tank on it

[woven brook]

bless

[shy badger]

haha

[gray glade]

"by accident"

[balmy condor]

hehe

straight into the river

[woven brook]

tank needed a swim

[balmy condor]

too much mud on it

he wasn't very happy

[woven brook]

need to clean all those hard to get areas inside the track roller bearings

[balmy condor]

was just giving the enemy team a fighting chance thats all

[woven brook]

I wish you could destroy structures with the lunge mine

It'd be fun as

[shy badger]

You can

[woven brook]

O

like, tear down walls with it?

[gray glade]

yes

[shy badger]

yup

[balmy condor]

yep

[woven brook]

that's mad good

[gray glade]

wait, can you do it on the floor? so you drop through a roof or something

or is it just walls and ceiling

[shy badger]

I imagine you can

[hot drum]

Just a random question what has been your latest 180 kill.

So like someone started shootin at u from behind

And u just turned around and deleted him/her

[blissful bane]

sigh this assignment

maybe i should try another map

[woven brook]

@hot drum was pretty recent actually. prolly a couple days ago

think it was a medic shooting at me, can't remember what gun it was

I was a medic too with a type 100

just turned around and sprayed right on their face

kinda lucky I managed to point right on their head tbh

we were also around 50+ meters apart

[hot drum]

Dayum

[balmy condor]

i last did that in 1942

[hot drum]

Mine was today twice in the same match solomon island right side attackin killed 2 guys with the type 11 lmg then just spun around 3 shots to an enemy head

Then someone was hidin behind truck and i was mid air fell close to him

2 shots to him

[woven brook]

feels good man

[hot drum]

I got it clipped

Going to merge them later

[blissful bane]

which map has huge capture zones

the airfield one maybe

[brave garnet]

When are we gonna get that rifle with the IR sight?

[uneven hollow]

A battlefield game with the entire world as map with an multiple people

[brave garnet]

With an multiple people? @uneven hollow

[balmy condor]

world war 2 buts its the whole world

[stoic breach]

If it wasnt the whole world it would be called "war 2"

[balmy condor]

2

[stoic breach]

2

[uneven hollow]

Yes

I could’ve worded better but nah I’ll leave as is

[frosty kiln]

when i go into my company its just the red background no company stuff

not eve nan option to exit

been like it for 2 days

plz help

[timber fossil]

Anyone know the 67N clan?

[brave garnet]

No

[uneven hollow]

Red background you say

Sounds like Russia is coming

[south kettle]

anyone elses pc sound like a jet engine when in bf5

[clever cedar]

"kill 20 in hipfire in a round pvp" Roll the dice/lottery... who makes these assignments

[south kettle]

thats not hard

[clever cedar]

i would have to be in knife distance and even then the knife would be better

[south kettle]

which gun

[clever cedar]

m2, so it is possible yes. I just need to find 20 blind guys who dont shoot back

[balmy condor]

i did all of mine on op underground

they were quite easy when it came to hipfire

[clever cedar]

ye i guess solomon is the wrong place

[balmy condor]

yeh im very bad at hipfiring on any other map

[crystal topaz]

some

[idle breach]

SOME

[clever cedar]

I dont think you can be good at hipfiring, i dont see any consistency

even the first shot dont hit nowhere close the crosshair

[blissful bane]

darn i got close to doing my assignment

[hot drum]

Okayy wtf

[teal atlas]

?

[uneven hollow]

Ikr Italy and France are so unbalanced

[queen canopy]

Solomon Islands is a surprisingly open map

[dense bone]

points are open, but in between it has strong lanes, especially to C

[queen canopy]

Yeah there’s like three or four distinct lanes between A/B and C

Agreed

I enjoy it at least

Looks great too

[main grove]

I wish there was more action along the rivers

[dense bone]

idk how i feel about the map

[queen canopy]

Yeah the rivers are pretty out of the way unfortunately

[dense bone]

@solid hinge its a game

because its a game

[queen canopy]

I mean I don’t care too much

[dense bone]

so why the confusion

you want skins people paid for to only be used on their faction specific map?

[queen canopy]

Thought it’s a little annoying to see Ilse everywhere

[dense bone]

it makes sense

once you consider... its a game

[queen canopy]

I think he means in a realism sense lul

[woven brook]

I wasn't

[queen canopy]

Well that was cuz marketing was ass

Seriously up until like the launch trailer it was pretty bad

[woven brook]

especially when I realised the japanese girl voice sounded just like an anime VA

same

the trick is to imagine the game never was supposed to push for realism

if you try to judge the game from a realism perspective, there are so many things wrong you could make a big list of it

[dense bone]

if you ever thought bf titles were pushing realism you are delusional

its a game

[queen canopy]

It’s more cinematically based than realistically

Case in point: BF1

[woven brook]

if you think about bf5 for what it is - a fun sandbox arcade shooter - you'll come to terms with the inaccuracies easily

[dense bone]

the thought that bullets have a number value against someones health in the first place...

[queen canopy]

Cinematic as F U C K but every other guy had an auto

In WW1

Where almost no one had anything besides a bolt action

Up until war’s end

Also they just kinda slapped tanks on both sides

Im so happy the vehicles are faction based in this game

[dense bone]

id bet a vast majority of people playing bfv dont know the name of the tanks, let alone the faction

(like myself)

[queen canopy]

That’s true

UK-Staghound, Valentine (+AA), Churchill, Valentine Archer

GER-Panzer 38(t), Panzer IV, Tiger, StuG III, Wirblewind AA

US-Sherman, LVT

IJA- Chi-Ha, Ka-Mi (I think)

[dense bone]

making a game isnt simple

making a complicated game like bf, that no one else is making, is definitely not as simple

i hate when people compare basic ass cod to bf and say "cod doesnt have these problems"

[icy sluice]

There's a reason why there's not many games like it

[dense bone]

on a technical level, bf titles in general are a marvel

[icy sluice]

There's stuff to pay attention to like flow of movement, power positions, weapon balance, etc.

[queen canopy]

UK- Spitfire Mk. VA, Spitfire Mk. VB, Mosquito Mk. Idk, the other Mosquito, Two fuckin Blenheims neither of which I know/care much about

GER- BF-109 G-2, BF-109 G-6, Stuka B1, Stuka B2, JU-88A, JU-88C

US- F4U-A1, F4U-A3

IJAF- A6M3, A6M5

[icy sluice]

When your map is smaller, there's less to consider

Especially when they all have the same layout like the past couple of cods did

[dense bone]

my favorite is when people complain about the amount of maps in bfv compared to cod games

when basically all the cod maps can fit inside 1 or 2 bf maps

[queen canopy]

People actually say that?

[dense bone]

yea

[queen canopy]

[dense bone]

ive seen a lot of questionable shit said here

ground war

it was a mess in beta imo

i hear it hasnt got much better

[queen canopy]

Still is

I made a comprehensive breakdown of why it’s bad on reddit lul

[pine zephyr]

Silence this HERETIC!!!

[queen canopy]

It’s like a solid 5 minute read

[dense bone]

people are dense

[pine zephyr]

Jk

Yeah

[dense bone]

dont think beyond face value assumptions

[queen canopy]

GW just feels like a larger cod map

Still just as dumb

[pine zephyr]

BFV destruction doesn’t feel as great as the past

[queen canopy]

Spray and pray fuckin invincible desk bullshit

[pine zephyr]

You can’t completely destroy multi-story buildings anymore

Which sucks

And some bushes and trees that aren’t even that big are somehow indestructible

Kinda sucks

[queen canopy]

If you ask me, I think Frostbite 3 is reaching its limit

[pine zephyr]

I mean, I like the fact that building parts crumble now

[queen canopy]

How old is the engine now?

[pine zephyr]

But we’re missing things that used to be in the old games for destruction

[queen canopy]

Also, bigger craters form on wet ground than on dry ground

Pro tip

Spectator is pretty great in both

BF1 is the cinematic fans dream

Gameplay kinda ass

But damn that game looks stunning

[sterile current]

I swear if don’t get my item upon leveling up again for the third time in 3 days I’m going to summon a snake to eat Braddock

For me, I keep not getting my items from my Career and Class upon leveling up.

[solid hinge]

When they finally add the Auto Team Balancing, just had a game with 11 vs 22

[dense bone]

imo 5.2 wasnt necessary, but its far from a problem

[sterile current]

Now I’m prepared to just keep messaging EA Support every day and bug the hell out of them until it’s fixed.

[dense bone]

changing this late is weird, and obviously balancing wont be as good

[queen canopy]

I honestly think 6.2 will be good enough to shut reddit up

[sterile current]

They tried to pull a fast one on me by saying they wouldn’t give me my level 11 CC.

I got it in the end, all it took was for using logic.

Told them if they could give the vehicle, gadgets, and weapons they could sure as hell give me my earned CC.

Took 40 minutes of the guy talking to his supervisor.

Next time, I’ll ask for a lifetime supply of CC.

If they try to do that again.

I hope the guy that actually did grow a pair to get me my CC got a raise.

[solid hinge]

I'm taking it upon myself to frequently use recon. And for some reason. I really love the C96 Carbine.

[balmy condor]

i've been trying to use support more

i always get the enemy to one hit and they kil meh

[solid hinge]

I only use the 1919 and 1897 for support.

Yeah, that happens alot 😤

[balmy condor]

i've been using the lewis

[raw orbit]

Bar and lewis

Only guns worth using

[balmy condor]

what BTK is the lewis?

[pastel grove]

M1919A6 is best MMG

[dense bone]

sym.gg

[keen nebula]

Any bady he can battlefield v

Just gave me name

Play together

[solid hinge]

UwU

Yes

Me

[balmy condor]

👌

[solid hinge]

Getting a katana chain kill is one of the most satisfying things to pull off

[dense bone]

it goes 5btk at 10m

[keen nebula]

@solid hinge your gave me your name in origin

I play pc

[solid hinge]

Nice. I'll give it to you when I get home though.

I can't even remember it from the top of my head

[keen nebula]

@solid hinge ok

[dense bone]

i am

OrangeNyphon

[solid hinge]

I know it's my name on Discord, but some of my accounts on different platforms is slightly different, like 2 Ns or something like that

Imagine playing BFV unironically

[dense bone]

imagine being raised by the internet

[brave garnet]

Imagine being lonely in life and loving tanks

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge What do you think of French Women's feet? Are they not superior?

[brave garnet]

Uuuh feet people

[pine zephyr]

Wait...

In Spectator Mode, is our camera able to freely roam around maps that we’re spectating on? I’ve never used it before.

I’m not sure how it works in BFV, I’ve never used it.

[brave garnet]

Mhm

It starts off locked on a player, just press one of the keys then you can freely move around

[pine zephyr]

Oh, alright. So with that doing, I can create cinematic shots of a Japanese sniper in a tree!

FUCK YEAH!!!!!

Thx

[rotund beacon]

Uhhh what

[pine zephyr]

Yes, bobsaget157, you heard me.

[dense bone]

you cant hear text

geesh

[pine zephyr]

But, can you?

[dense bone]

no

[hot drum]

I can say that playin against lower lvl players

Is so much harder

Than against good

[dense bone]

?!

low lvl players are harder than playing against good players?

[hot drum]

Yes

I am the highest lvl in this lobby

At lvl 111

[shut walrus]

Good news everybody! You are now hearing this in mr Farnsworth voice

[dense bone]

i have no idea what you are saying mci

[strong parrot]

lul nice..get thrown into a 1/4 full BT solomon lobby..got a 50 damage strike with the lunge mine and then quit the server to find a full one- game locks up

[hot drum]

These fackin bastards camps so mucj

[icy sluice]

@shut walrus who?

[dense bone]

welcome

@icy sluice did you never watch futurama?

[icy sluice]

No.

[strong parrot]

lmao holy shit...shot a flare up and its destroyed instantly, doesnt even spot anything

[solid hinge]

uwu

@strong parrot

Anime

Pfp

[balmy condor]

[strong parrot]

dont be a drooling idiot all the time

[solid hinge]

but

I can't

Im like this

i was born stopid

Very stopid

[balmy condor]

i've been killed by 3 people i couldn't hear today

ree

maybe im just deaf

[woven brook]

speaking of which

[latent swan]

Anyone wanna donate 10$

[woven brook]

is it just me or do enemy soldiers have louder footsteps than your buddies?

I've always felt the enemy footsteps sound heavier

[solid hinge]

@keen nebula El_Romanno

There

[woven brook]

but a friend of mine says it's just me lol

[balmy condor]

is it weird that my game runs better on max fidelity than on min latency

[night glade]

max fidelity introduces input lag but makes the game run smoother

[strong parrot]

kek the silent deaths something that plagues a certain mod

[sterile current]

Alright I’m making a video on the BFV Reddit in an attempt for DICE to fix the progression bug.

Let’s see if I can get it to the top of the sub Reddit.

I’ve made a speech that I’ve memorized.

[keen nebula]

@solid hinge ok

[hot drum]

Finally done with lmg

[sharp oxide]

Defence Minister George Pearce agreed to send Lewis machine guns along with soldiers to operate them. Armed with machine guns and 10,000 rounds of ammunition, a small group of soldiers descended on the emus

I just realized the Lewis gun was used in the Emu War.

[topaz dome]

I just realized the emu war was a thing and the humans didn't win it

time to bookmark

[hot drum]

It will take time to get used to playin with fg42

[sharp oxide]

I mean a large group of birds vs a couple guys with a lifted truck and a few Lewis guns.

[brazen kayak]

@sterile current progression bug?

[sterile current]

Basically on PC when you level up you sometimes won’t get your rewards for career or class.

[brazen kayak]

jesus

that shouldnt be an issue

idk what goes on at bf hq

[sterile current]

I’ve had to message EA support three times.

[brazen kayak]

they just watch cowboy bebop all day

livin the life

[sterile current]

To get the PIAT, m1912, Spitfire, and 500 CC.

They wouldn’t even give me the 500 CC initially and I had to call them out.

Told them if they could restore vehicles, gadgets, and weapons they could sure as hell restore my Company Coin.

They restored it after 40 minutes.

[hot drum]

Aah feels good

52 kills

[raw orbit]

Watchan bebop breakan code

[brazen kayak]

ongn

[thin sonnet]

has tides w2 started?

[shy badger]

nein

[thin sonnet]

ow ok

[shut walrus]

Starts in 10-11h

[gray glade]

what is tides w2?

[icy sluice]

@vocal matrix That content does not have anything to do with Battlefield and as such has been removed.

[vocal matrix]

@icy sluice but it is about battlefield 4

[icy sluice]

There is nothing called Operation Beans in Battlefield 4. If it is a fan-made animation then that makes sense but even still that isn't allowed in this channel but instead #streams-and-videos

[coarse thunder]

How's Solomon Island for someone who hasn't played since last tow ended?

[sharp oxide]

Alot of people hate it because of how it preforms in Conquest. Personally I love it because it's based off of Tropical Terrain that's exactly like my state.

[coarse thunder]

Ok we'll see, I breakthrough main but conquest is fine to me

[sharp oxide]

Breakthrough is really fun on Solomon.

[solid hinge]

I dislike it because of bush camping but theoretically it could be quite good

[icy sluice]

Bush Camping is not much of a problem

[solid hinge]

Suffers from "please stop giving americans 8 fucking tanks on breakthrough" syndrome though

[sharp oxide]

Yeah that sucks but it means more opportunities for lunge mines.

[solid hinge]

There's people in all the foliage always

I hate it

[icy sluice]

Don't you main recon as well?

[balmy condor]

i keep getting hecked by tanks today

[brave garnet]

They love you

They just love you

[sharp oxide]

Lol. They only want to hug you

[balmy condor]

went on a 15 streak and i got sniped by a heckin tank on heckin twisted steeeel

[brave garnet]

Im hugging my model M4 Sherman rn

[balmy condor]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[hot drum]

Ehhh the armor piercin rounds on the 50 cal anti tank takes 4-5 cooldowns

[solid hinge]

The bushes cover their diamonds

I can see them on the minimap but I cant see through the bastard leafs

[balmy condor]

dorito chip

[hot drum]

@balmy condor those are some matcjes

In one match i think i got exploded by a tank like 25+ times

[sharp oxide]

The bush combat is fun though

[balmy condor]

earlier i died to a ZH got revived instantly died to a jungle carbine revived again then died to a V1 within 5 seconds

[hot drum]

Damm

[sharp oxide]

Wow that's unlucky.

[balmy condor]

i might of cliped it idk

[hot drum]

I once got road killed, got revived got sniped, got revived, got shot by a tank, revived and then ran over by a tank..... Never i have raged that hard

[sharp oxide]

Wow that medic had determination.

[hot drum]

Yes

I send him message

And if i am medic and i see other medics and i see them usin type 2a ya bet i aint picking his ass up

[sharp oxide]

Lol awesome. Medics are the best

[hot drum]

I was in one match my team only medi

Medix

Medic

[sharp oxide]

Lol that's sad. Why is a medic using a Type 2a

[hot drum]

I dunno

But they die

And i dont pick them up

I still have the zk and mab to do

[sharp oxide]

Honestly I use the Commando Carbine. It's fun to use rather then sweat.

[hot drum]

Well havent used them yet

Used it*

[sharp oxide]

You haven't used the Carbines for the medic yet?

[hot drum]

No

I am a aggresive medic

There are only couple of smg i like

[sharp oxide]

Maybe you should try the Jungle Carbine. 1 shot head shot and 2 shot body's.

[hot drum]

Mp28 emp and grease gun

[sharp oxide]

oh nice.