battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

30k squad points

[open surge]

should they make stuka noises too

[solid hinge]

im a genius

yes yes stuka

or yell banzai

[wind shale]

we need bad company 3

thats just total mayhem

[solid hinge]

no

we need more cool ww2

[wind shale]

every experimental weapon

[solid hinge]

We need a real WW2 game

ok lame taco bell soda

[tawdry arch]

Any progress on the EE?

[solid hinge]

Not some lame censored buggy piece of crap

[wind shale]

6.2 when

[open surge]

hell let loose?

[solid hinge]

go play that ya

[wind shale]

no

fuck milsim

[solid hinge]

milsim players are edgy

When you're bad at milsim games so you hate the genre

[wind shale]

if i cant suicide jeep

its not a real game

[solid hinge]

no they just are too serious

[stoic breach]

Its funny how BFV tried to be a milsim

[solid hinge]

It really didn't

in what aspect

did it ever

[stoic breach]

Well, practically got stuck between milsim and casual

Attrition

And bad visibility

And forced teamwork aspects

[solid hinge]

How are those milsim aspects?

do you even play the game

That just sounds like battlefield to me

because you just complain really

[wind shale]

i mean

the attrition is annoying

[stoic breach]

Is it wrong to complain about something?

I love battlefield it has no flaws whatsoever

[wind shale]

the game should have had hardcore mode though

[solid hinge]

i complain because lack of fortifications

It is when the complaint is stupid

But battlefield 5 does suck dick

i demand more trenches

[wind shale]

they should have made bf1 a milsim

[stoic breach]

Well, BFV didnt really reach milsim so its just stuck as this wannabe tactical game that tried to add elements of realism

[wind shale]

you sit in your trench until you hear the whistle

[solid hinge]

yes

poke your head out and get instantly headshot

"realism"

die of dysentery before the game ends

[wind shale]

realism is fine, forced realism isnt

[solid hinge]

What is forced realism then?

Enlighten me

[wind shale]

realism i dont like

[solid hinge]

1 lunge mine is forced realism

akimbo lunge mine is that too hard to ask

[wind shale]

i want to dual wield lunge mines

or katanas

[stoic breach]

The colour palette being alot more muted with lower contrast, running out of ammo quickly, towing stationary guns

[solid hinge]

dual wield flamethrower

[open surge]

kirito in iwo jima

[solid hinge]

i like towing stuff

[wind shale]

you should be able to wear a fedora for bonus katana effectiveness

gives you the ability to deflect bullets

[stoic breach]

It wasnt exactly designed to be a casual battlefield game like it previously was

[solid hinge]

jeep plus AA is basically ostwind

[wind shale]

sorry but

[stoic breach]

And was designed to be more "tactical" than previous battlefields

[solid hinge]

It was

[wind shale]

bf1 has a SUPER muted color palate

[solid hinge]

yes

[wind shale]

its gross looking

[solid hinge]

excpet that one map

They were just going for what Call of Duty did with BO4

with the flowers

[stoic breach]

BF1 has better colour and lighting contrast than BFV does

[wind shale]

bfv is honestly really pretty looking

[solid hinge]

Cause somehow game devs think that's what people want

i liek bright colors

Meh

It's alight

[wind shale]

i want to feel like im in a black and white noir film at all times

[solid hinge]

no

[wind shale]

that kind of gritty flavor

[minor drum]

yeah, i think BFV looks great @wind shale

[wind shale]

oh sorry

[stoic breach]

There's probably room for an indie game like that honestly

[wind shale]

i want to feel like im wearing tf2 pyro goggles

[stoic breach]

Black and white colour filtered game

[sonic rampart]

Its not that bad tho

[solid hinge]

i want to feel like im on a pretty tropical island while someone is running at me witha lunge mine

[minor drum]

BF1 does have more of a 'war vibe' though

[wind shale]

@minor drum 👍

[solid hinge]

i liked the behemoths

[stoic breach]

BF1 probably feels like a war cause you dont know what to expect half the time, also the audio and props and shit help as well

[solid hinge]

the blimp is scary

[wind shale]

behemoths were interesting

[solid hinge]

the train is scary on sinai

[stoic breach]

Like, BFV could've felt equally like a war game

How BF1 did

[wind shale]

i miss having good maps in bfv tbh

solomon is definitely a good step

[solid hinge]

i hate snow maps

[wind shale]

fjell with the weather i really really like honestly

i wish devastation had its weather effects all the time

looks much better

[solid hinge]

i like the storm

on uhh the pacific map

[wind shale]

that being said

pacific storm is bad paracel storm

[solid hinge]

take that back

its a good paracel storm

[stoic breach]

It really is bad paracel

[wind shale]

tbh just let me play rush and frontlines and i wont complain about anything ever again

what was that map in bf3

where after you pushed one of the points the next step was to parachute off the mountain

i dont remember what it was called

[stoic breach]

Davamand?

[wind shale]

or was that even bf3

[solid hinge]

i rmeember playing that for the first time

i was so confused on what to do

[wind shale]

yeah that map was sick

[stoic breach]

Pretty sure its Davamand Peak

[wind shale]

i miss the well designed rush maps

i played so much rush in bfbc2

the vehicle balance was so damn good then

[stoic breach]

Holy shit, what was that giant african map

I forgot that existed

[wind shale]

gave just the right amount at the right points of the map

[stoic breach]

The campaign one they ported to MP

[solid hinge]

i only played rush

[wind shale]

same

[solid hinge]

im not much of a conquest person

[wind shale]

i miss it so damn much

its not the same in bfv

[solid hinge]

breakthrough is fun

[wind shale]

i miss how each side would get just like ONE vehicle

and you better play damn well around it

because thats all youre getting

[stoic breach]

Multiple vehicle BT for both factions is pretty good

[tough lodge]

[solid hinge]

i like tnaks

the lvt is cool

[stoic breach]

I think the idea of a big sprawling BT where vehicles can drive around eachother is pretty good

[solid hinge]

nope it was massively disadvantaged by hollywood, BF1 had the immersion without the devs trying because very few young gamers at the time had any preconceived ideas about how ww1 looked like and felt like whereas with ww2 games people immediately have strong ideas what it looks and feels like, band of brothers, saving private ryan, fury etc etc .. thats what they want and when dice decided to do things a little differently, people just cant deal with it. They rage about it 16 months later

[stoic breach]

I havent seen Wake Island but I'm guessing thats how it couldve played out

If it was balanced

[wind shale]

breakthrough its literally a narrow strip

[open surge]

so

panzerstorm?

[solid hinge]

I mean, Saving Private Ryan is a pretty accurate movie

[wind shale]

before the changes attackers got 8 tanks

[stoic breach]

Panzerstorm is a start

But tanks just camp on that map

[wind shale]

panzerstorm is meh

the tankers get to have fun

[stoic breach]

Then again thats a tank balance issue

[wind shale]

infantry just get boned

[solid hinge]

its called AT guns

[stoic breach]

@solid hinge BFV couldve cheated a little like Battlefront 2 does and put NPC soldiers on the battlefield in uncap and shit

[wind shale]

man

watching this bf3 map

[stoic breach]

So it feels like you're a part of a bigger battle

[wind shale]

i really miss the old map designs

[solid hinge]

seriously? saving private ryan is in terms of showing small scale skirmishing, but is deeply flawed in that it doesn't come close to showing the massive scale of those battles, they were limited by tech, money and format

even fury is inadequate in that department

[stoic breach]

I think theres definitely ways to make the game feel more immersive though

[fresh cypress]

[wind shale]

the immersion should be such low priority for them honestly

there is much more important things to worry about

[solid hinge]

and yet people will rage about it for hours in this channel

[uneven hollow]

50v50

[ocean smelt]

100v200

[wind shale]

i dont care about having women characters in the slightest

[uneven hollow]

100v100v100v100

[wind shale]

i just ignore the people who say the game has 'fortnite' cosmetics

[ocean smelt]

1v32

[wind shale]

its just dumb

[ocean smelt]

Wtf

[wind shale]

no wonder dice ignores reddit

[stoic breach]

I wish BF was limited to 20v20 with 24 NPC characters

[fresh cypress]

i have 5.8% accuracy

[ocean smelt]

Who says the game has fortnite cosmetics?

[fresh cypress]

i spray through smoke

[blissful bane]

ribeyrolles 1918 is such nice to use

[fresh cypress]

yeah

satisfying

[uneven hollow]

Or in the fall of Germany 100(Russian) vs 200 Germans vs 100(Americans)

[fresh cypress]

that's a good idea

but break through

on that map

would be better

[untold wraith]

Would be great but practically impossible

[fresh cypress]

but in itself

[uneven hollow]

Sadly true

[fresh cypress]

that would be 50 GB itself

[blissful bane]

Imagine planetside 2 scale combat in bfv

[fresh cypress]

probably

[ocean smelt]

The race to Berlin is gonna be interesting if they do something for that

[stoic breach]

Thats a mess for Battlefield

[fresh cypress]

because you have to add the red army

you have to add the red army

the whole thing\

tanks planes and infantry

[ocean smelt]

I’m praying that potatoes will be a new grenade type

[fresh cypress]

then add the map

[untold wraith]

I’m sure they’re comin

[wind shale]

i wish they had stuck to the whole 'showcasing the ignored parts ofww2' theme

[fresh cypress]

that can fit 400 players

[untold wraith]

Just need to wait until the best time to reveal

[wind shale]

it wouldve been interesting

[untold wraith]

Get hype up

[fresh cypress]

nah

iwo jima is a good map

too many vehicles

[untold wraith]

Yes

[solid hinge]

they did and are still getting hate for it

[fresh cypress]

american sided

[blissful bane]

a lot of maps have too many vehicles tbh

wake island has too for me

but meh

[fresh cypress]

first sector is japanese sided

[wind shale]

the bazooka will remove tanks from the game

[fresh cypress]

rest are americans

[wind shale]

once more people get it

[fresh cypress]

bazooka will remove tank campers in narvik

[untold wraith]

I hope so

[fresh cypress]

you know the out of range campers?

[untold wraith]

Ye

[fresh cypress]

all the way on the right side of the map

if you're german

they're soo annoying

[wind shale]

i once went 77-0 on aerodrome sitting next to the supply station by c on the cliff

am i good at the game

[fresh cypress]

damnn

which tank?

[untold wraith]

I think tank spawns have been reduced on some of the Pacific maps

[wind shale]

valentine

broken as shit

[fresh cypress]

valentine archer?

[wind shale]

no

[fresh cypress]

?

[wind shale]

viii

[fresh cypress]

which one

[untold wraith]

It’s also why the LVTs only have the base perks at US spawn

[wind shale]

the medium tank

[fresh cypress]

oh

yeah why do LVT's have the normal load out

[wind shale]

tank spawns got reduced on wake only

[blissful bane]

wake had way too many tbh

[fresh cypress]

yeah

[wind shale]

if you didnt remove the lvts they started with they could have 8 tanks

[untold wraith]

So they don’t destroy the Japanese

[wind shale]

i had a hilarious moment on solomon the other day

spawned in a hachi

destroying lvt after lvt

[untold wraith]

Fully upgraded LVTs would be a nightmare in first sector.

[wind shale]

was pretty great

[blissful bane]

same lol

haichi demolishes them

[wind shale]

i like the hachi a lot more than tha calloupe

[fresh cypress]

i use the type 97

[wind shale]

the rocket pods block too much vision

[untold wraith]

Hachi is devastating

[wind shale]

based salad tank

[fresh cypress]

with the howitzer

on solomon

amazing

[untold wraith]

I ran into a bunker to check on squadmates only to find the bunker blown to shit by hachi with me next in line to die

[blissful bane]

i did pretty good in solomon yesterday for once

[wind shale]

i dont even play tanks

i have 4 tank specs maxed out total

err

3

[blissful bane]

solomon seems harder to run than the other maps though

[untold wraith]

I don’t play tanks much but I’m good at it.

[fresh cypress]

wdym

[wind shale]

valentine viii 38t and the staghound

[untold wraith]

I prefer to be the gunner.

[blissful bane]

lowered settings cause of solomon

lul

[wind shale]

oh bro

go delete your directx shader cache

[untold wraith]

I’m great at being the support gunner in vehicles

[fresh cypress]

no use the tiger

[wind shale]

it will boost y our performance instantly

im not joking

[fresh cypress]

thing blows through enemies

[wind shale]

makes a huge difference

[blissful bane]

nah i turned off rtx, it seems extra taxing in that map

[wind shale]

like legit

whenever the game patches

[blissful bane]

went from 40 to 145 fps

[wind shale]

go delete the shader cache

[fresh cypress]

meh

[wind shale]

turning on dx12 boosted my fps by 30 lol

[fresh cypress]

who uses the stag hound?

[wind shale]

swaghound

you mean

[blissful bane]

i dont really like the staghound

i prefer using the archer

[wind shale]

you ever driven around a tiger in circles

and he cant rotate his turret fast enough

hilarious

people dont use the squad point tanks enough

they can seriously win you the game

[tough lodge]

[blissful bane]

Used s2 200 and ribeyrolles for a while, both feel good

[wind shale]

sturmtiget on the last point of aerodrome defense

or the stupid broken hachi

[blissful bane]

my win rate is 44.9%

gg

[wind shale]

im at like

64%

[blissful bane]

i need to carry more i guess

[fresh cypress]

that thing will shred

if you want a quick win on that sector

churchill croc

[wind shale]

if you want to know the secret

devastation conq

[blissful bane]

in the outpost thing i just spawned in the TD and just kept firing at the towers

[wind shale]

pick the panzer 38t

get 3 people in the guns

[uneven hollow]

Can’t wait to see some untold battles for Italy and France in bfv

[wind shale]

you can drive op the ramp by the organ in the church

[uneven hollow]

[wind shale]

and get on the ledge

since the tank is so small

its so good

make people shit their pants

[blissful bane]

or a china map

[uneven hollow]

[blissful bane]

since not many talk about the china battles

[uneven hollow]

Japan vs China

[blissful bane]

yeah

[uneven hollow]

And if we want some spicy action why not japan vs Russia

[blissful bane]

thats possible too

in manchuria map or however you spell it

[uneven hollow]

Those are some real spicy untold battles

[blissful bane]

There could also be that fort that they landed on using gliders

as a team deathmatch

since small area

I think my favorite weapons for each class is ribeyrolles for assault, jungle carbine for medic, m1922 or BAR or BREN for support, krag for recon

[wind shale]

most used is emp/bar/krag/sf

[blissful bane]

well bar is pretty strong compared to most support weapons

especially the MMGs, those need a rework

[wind shale]

im totally fine with mmgs being trash

[hot drum]

@uneven hollow like finnish vs soviets

[wind shale]

not good they they were never fun to play against

[blissful bane]

they arent very fun to play either

thats why i want a rework for them

not that fun to use, not that fun to fight against

Also they should be the guns with the least overheating, not the most

[hot drum]

For me assault m1a1 carbine medic, emp or mp28 support fg42, recon ross rifle @blissful bane

[blissful bane]

I really don't like using smgs, dunno why

[hot drum]

Same but i still want to get them to lvl 10

[blissful bane]

Yeah same

[wind shale]

smgs are chad

[blissful bane]

I still need to get assault and medic to 20

i got 20 in support and recon long ago

[marsh dirge]

I love how most of us grinded chapter 5 rewards to get most of the weapons but apparently you can buy them now smh

[wind shale]

my kills in medic are almost triple my next closest

lmao

[hot drum]

But if u play with smg this can happen https://youtu.be/lhxAuk1vQLQ @blissful bane

[tawdry arrow]

i feel that. my assault is 3x more than my second most played class

[blissful bane]

i really don't like smgs and shotgun, i find myself useless vs medium range often

and against recons

[wind shale]

and for smgs my most used is double the next closest

lol

[blissful bane]

LMGs is my most used, then bolt action then assault rifle for me

i think?

[tawdry arrow]

my most used rifle has 5x more kills than my second most used lol

[blissful bane]

my most used is bren

with 3 times more time than number 2

[wind shale]

my most used is emp/mp28/krag/type99/suomi

for top 5

[tawdry arrow]

my most used smg is the sten with 2d 07h and a shocking 262 kills xd

[wind shale]

as you can see i like my extreme ranges

[tawdry arrow]

plane and tank life is fun

[blissful bane]

my top 5 is Bren, gewehr m95/30, krag, panzerbüche, ribeyrolles

M1922 is decent too, but horrible at range cause low damage

[tawdry arrow]

my most used guns is as following: StG 44, STEN, M1907 SF, M1A1 Carbine, Krag–Jørgensen

[blissful bane]

M1907 feels meh now

in my opinion

[tawdry arrow]

i have more hours with the spitfire and bf-109 g2 than most of my guns <.<

[wind shale]

5.0 sf was the only reason i played assault

pilot main gross

[blissful bane]

i barely have time in planes cause i suck at hitting anything with them

[wind shale]

go play war thunder

[tawdry arrow]

i used to do that but the salt from the bf5 community is too good

[wind shale]

lol

[blissful bane]

i try to go for all the tanks when im in planes

and avoid planes cause ive never won a dogfight

[wind shale]

flying in bfv is boring

helicopters were always cooler anyways

[tawdry arrow]

quite fun having people constantly crying that you cheat or just salt. and all the people who swap to fligers is fun too because then our tanks get basically god mode because the infantry cant damage them

[wind shale]

i miss the jesus fleiger

[tough lodge]

how do i equip the syringe

[wind shale]

you cant

[tough lodge]

[modern sedge]

You can auto revive

As medic

[tawdry arrow]

i want to kill someone with the flare gun

[tough lodge]

i miss getting defib kills

in bf4

[wind shale]

you can kill people with it if they jump infront of you right when you hit revive

[open surge]

how do you even kill someone with a syringe

[tough lodge]

soontm island music is 👌

[open surge]

a defib makes some sense

[tough lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMaSqL8o81E

[blissful bane]

5v5 with liberators

jk

[tough lodge]

no

5v5 with plunger

[modern sedge]

BFV's music is one part that will always be nice

[tawdry arrow]

5v5 flare gun fight

[ocean smelt]

I miss getting kills with the flares on BF4

[modern sedge]

32v32 liberator line battles

[tawdry arrow]

i think 32v32 flare gun would be better because you need to plan your attack since it does a max of 15 dmg

[blissful bane]

well same with liberator

it does 30 or so

i think

[tough lodge]

32 vs 32 plunger

[wind shale]

we needed that german gun with the curved barrelt

to look around corners

that had the attached mirror

[blissful bane]

its just an stg 44 with an attachment

krumlauf or something

[tawdry arrow]

^

[wind shale]

there you go

best spec in the game

[blissful bane]

there could be night battles too

[tawdry arrow]

they really need to add a night time map

[blissful bane]

with ww2 tech thats going to be dark lul

[wind shale]

narvick has one

in grand ops

[tawdry arrow]

would be nice to look at with tracer fire

[wind shale]

doesnt it

[tawdry arrow]

night time conquest with planes

[blissful bane]

5v5 melee only

jk

[tawdry arrow]

hell yes

i would join that

no wait. even better. lunge mine battle

[wind shale]

5v5 with cricket bats and katanas

[tawdry arrow]

some of us never bothered getting the stuff from the war stories

[blissful bane]

oh also imagine flamethrowers in night battles

[tawdry arrow]

would look nice just like with the tracer fire from planes

[blissful bane]

and with rtx so you can see all the reflections of the flames and tracers in the water

[tawdry arrow]

disable hud and ui too for added effect

[blissful bane]

and make the trees and plants flammable

and buildings

[tawdry arrow]

then watch the server crash from too much stuff happening

[blissful bane]

i only remember once with server issues in bfv

where everyone had super high ping

[tawdry arrow]

we had a plattoon community game like 2 weeks ago where we were on american servers because we swap between europe then america for community stuff. type 2a could kill you before you had even spotted the enemy because he just had to spray in your general direction to kill you

was fun

[zenith locust]

Is this the official discord?

[blissful bane]

i really disliked that gun at first

[wind shale]

players with bad ping make it worse

literally one frame deaths

[tawdry arrow]

try flying with 130 ping

plane will literally be skipping frames

[blissful bane]

australian pilots in bfv

jk

[tawdry arrow]

and everything will be pretty much shacking because your plane wants to drift to some way on its own so you plane pretty much skips towards the left/right with around 1-2 cm on the screen each time making aiming impossible

[blissful bane]

ah yes war thunder packet loss memories

[wind shale]

flying in bfv is just bad

not fun to play not fun to play against

[open surge]

I love watching random planes lag about

[tawdry arrow]

i find flying in bf5 to be fun because its so damn weird and just broken. its just so, yes.

[tough lodge]

i barely strafe infantry on pacific planes

should i get 4x lmg instead?

[tawdry arrow]

which plane do you use? bomber or fighter

[tough lodge]

bomber variants

[tawdry arrow]

you use explosive rounds?

[tough lodge]

currently i use 2x20mm HE

[tawdry arrow]

because if you swap to the 6x guns and then just aim at them you can pretty much melt everything and you have more range so you can avoid AA's and the giant trees that kills you if you get closer than 50m to them

[wind shale]

lmao why would you use the guns

just ram the plane into the ground

[tawdry arrow]

1000lb bomb then go for rams and drop the bomb before you hit the ground

would make the crash deadly instead of the 30 dmg it does to infantry thats standing inside your plane explosion

because yeah. pistols does more damage than a plane hitting you in the face

[blissful bane]

lol

[wind shale]

bfv needs a practice mode for planes

its pretty bad

[tawdry arrow]

there is actually.

[wind shale]

or at least a dogfight only mode

[tawdry arrow]

go to the training area and get in a plane

also yeah a planes only thing would be nice

[wind shale]

would be nice if there were more than 2 planes

[tawdry arrow]

fjell has lots of planes, al sudan has planes but al sudan is just too badly balanced

too few ground cars, too big of a map and whoever holds a gets guranteed air supremacy

[wind shale]

yeah practicing is just annoying

im a pretty shit pilot

i could kinda fly helicopters

but thats about it

[tawdry arrow]

get a friend into the practice area and just shoot each other down

or just kidnap randoms and go to the practice place

"leave with squad" then just casually go into practice and get them into planes then just shoot them down

[wind shale]

my experience is getting up into the air

immediately shot down

[blissful bane]

same

[wind shale]

by some dude with a fully specced plane

its great fun

[tawdry arrow]

lvl 0 can beat max specced planes

[blissful bane]

i had a nice squad yesterday, we all did good and they even said thank you in voice each time i revived them

[tawdry arrow]

if you learn how to control your plane you can pretty much kill anything unless they manage to melt your plane before you get behind them or outturn them

[blissful bane]

i always get outturned, dunno how to dogfight lol

[wind shale]

i mean i can manage to not crash into the ground

[tawdry arrow]

you should try to join a community and play with people who actually has communication. makes the game way more fun

[wind shale]

so im a step above those people

yeah im at that point after today

[blissful bane]

i typically just play alone in all games

[wind shale]

i got so damn annoyed after each squad i had just refused to play together

[blissful bane]

but i could try later

[tawdry arrow]

try to learn roll breaking and instant stalling

[wind shale]

its like i dont even care if youre bad or not just like

can we please stick together

each person off doing their own thing

[blissful bane]

well

[tawdry arrow]

thats why having friends to play with is fun

[wind shale]

recons not putting beacons down on offense

its great

[blissful bane]

medics right next to you not reviving anyone but just running with type 2a

[wind shale]

yeah this game is way better with people you know

sadly all of my friends refuse to play this game

[tawdry arrow]

medics in bf5 is not a medic

[blissful bane]

i dont have people i know

[tawdry arrow]

its just a smg pleb who only plays it for the guns and free heals

[wind shale]

i get more annoyed at dumb revives then people who dont revive

[tough lodge]

when attacking solomon islands, there is a bridge between US spawn and Baker at Second Sector.
this is where most players farm infantry with tanks.
One time i got so pissed off i destroyed the bridge using AT pistol and 2 tanks fell

that was the most hilarious shit i've done

[wind shale]

even when im spam pinging the person who killed me

hurdur just go for the revive

[tawdry arrow]

and yeah, "oh hey a dead guy who just got shot by a tank. better revive him then run before the tank shoots me too" revives the guy just to watch the same guy get shot in the face

[wind shale]

i revive a ton

i run 4 smokes at all times

fuck lethal grenades

medics who dont know how to smoke make me so mad

[blissful bane]

i revive a lot too though mostly squad as i dont play medic much

[tawdry arrow]

just shoot a tank shell into the smoke

[wind shale]

yeah just drop smokes at our feet while we try to push so we're all blind

just shoot it at them

[blissful bane]

i use smoke always with my recon tho

[wind shale]

whats why its on a launcher genius

[blissful bane]

cause the smoke removes the spotting spam

[wind shale]

its fun outplaying people at long range as medic

when you launch a smoke at them and get a flank

[blissful bane]

yeah a lot of people try that when i play tank

but my tank mounted flamethrower gets them

[prime pine]

Im used to using smoke grenades because they're extremely quick to draw

[blissful bane]

[tawdry arrow]

also you guys play pacific right? dont you guys love the out of orbit flares the planes drop from the border of the sky?

[wind shale]

just shoot the smoke at the tank

[prime pine]

I fly a lot

[wind shale]

and assaults just charge em

i dont really play that much pacific

i play some

i just hate wake

[blissful bane]

yeah people do that with my tank

[prime pine]

So as the one who does the flares its fun

[blissful bane]

trying to smoke then charge my tank

[wind shale]

the flares are aids

[blissful bane]

but its easy to counter that tactic

just reverse then flamethrower

[wind shale]

i feel like you should be able to spot vehicles like old bf games

[blissful bane]

yeah

[edgy stone]

Solomon islands are sure win for Americans either conquest or breakthrough

[wind shale]

nah

you can win defense

after a certain point if you kill the lvts they dont get anymore

[edgy stone]

They have filthy tanks

[wind shale]

and are stick with 2 tanks

you can win the game on defense with a hachi

[blissful bane]

my battles in bfv are usually curbstomps

[tawdry arrow]

defending solomon isnt as hard as people claim it to be

[blissful bane]

either one team loses horribly or the other one does

[wind shale]

a single rocket salvo and swap to the normal tank gun

[blissful bane]

its rarely a long battle

[wind shale]

instantly kills american tanks

[edgy stone]

But in conquest Americans get more tanks in start

[tawdry arrow]

there is a lot of chokepoints you can hold. we've held down the first flag more times than we've lost in in breaktrough

[wind shale]

breakthrough on that map is so damn good

[tawdry arrow]

get a squad full of assaults and target their tanks before they get to do any damage

[wind shale]

not a fan of conq on it though

[tawdry arrow]

conq is just a bunch of running around because once you take one of their back flags they've taken one of yours

[wind shale]

i either run assault on first point or mine the shit out of the beach on the right

[open surge]

why do people never call in the rocket tanks

they're fucking busted

[wind shale]

theyre dinguses

[open surge]

I got the hachi for the final bit of a conquest game and got so many kills

[tawdry arrow]

im not sure most people know that squad callins is a thing. too many low levels who never call in stuff

[wind shale]

im going to be so sad when solomon isnt in its own playlist anymore

[blissful bane]

a lot of the squads im in dont call in anything, they never press b

[open surge]

that or they just save up for v1

[tough lodge]

PSA: Destroy the bridge on sector 2 solomon islands if tanks friendly US tanks are camping there the whole game

[wind shale]

i seriously won the game yesterday with the v1

[open surge]

I only ever see V-1 or artillery

[wind shale]

we took second sector

i immediately rocketed a

[open surge]

yeah I saw a game winning V1 too

[tawdry arrow]

50k points and never call in things

[blissful bane]

yesterday we had like 60K but noone called in anything

[wind shale]

killed 20 people

[tawdry arrow]

makes me wonder

[open surge]

on the final sector of solomon

while we were defending iirc

[wind shale]

took 3rd sector instantly

[open surge]

it just WIPED the tickets from the americans

[wind shale]

i held sector 2 on a hachi for so damn long

that was a fucking fun game

[pine zephyr]

There are a lot of sniping positions

[blissful bane]

i destroyed 4 tanks pretty quickly which held them back for a while

[wind shale]

i dont even play tanks

[pine zephyr]

Like trees

I use trees a lot

[open surge]

it's also the cool factor

it's a fuckin rocket tank

what's not to like

[tawdry arrow]

its so easy to get points and most squads end up with having around 40-50k points in a normal game. you almost never see more than 2-3 rockets per side each game

[pine zephyr]

Nobody knows how I climb them

[open surge]

can't wait for soviets and

katyusha 😍

[pine zephyr]

Trees

[blissful bane]

a lot of the time the defense falls quickly though

[pine zephyr]

Climb the tree

Taste the tree

[wind shale]

yeah that game i had my squad had 50k points by start of 3rd sector

[pine zephyr]

Be the tree

[wind shale]

we were all 4 top scorers

that rarely happens

[edgy stone]

@pine zephyr you can climb the tree in the game?

[pine zephyr]

ooga boogas in anime language

[wind shale]

the shit i get mad about on sector 3

[pine zephyr]

No

[wind shale]

is when you take a point

[pine zephyr]

But if you know how then yes

[wind shale]

and the attacking team REFUSES To flank to the left through the jungle

its so damn easy to do but nobody does it

1 squad flank can literally win that sector easily

[blissful bane]

or when a large battle takes place and enemy teams caps behind us with noone doing anything about it

[pine zephyr]

I do it

[wind shale]

everyone is just

HURDUR GO MIDDLE

[edgy stone]

My majority of the breakthrough matches on Solomon is American win rarely seen Japanese win

[pine zephyr]

Honestly...

Olive Green paint goes great in Solomon

[wind shale]

i just yell at my team to focus the lvts

[pine zephyr]

Iwo Jima?

Not so much

[wind shale]

you cut their numbers in 3rd sector you can win easy

[blissful bane]

my team often gets overwhelmed by them

so there is so many of them since none of them gets killed

so I spam at mines around supply points

[wind shale]

i mine the road right before the bridge

[edgy stone]

I play solo and most of the time my team is bad

[wind shale]

so when the sector flips youll blow up at least one poor dude

[blissful bane]

i wonder if there is a max at how many you can put

[wind shale]

its like 5-6

[pine zephyr]

If only we could bury mines in the ground like Squad

[wind shale]

i play solo as well

i just want people to stick together

[blissful bane]

i play solo too

[edgy stone]

It's hard in playing solo on consoles but in PC not so much

[blissful bane]

another thing i do with tanks is having a medic smoke it then placing mines right behind it

cause they usually reverse

when smoked

and when you use piat on them lol

[edgy stone]

I use bazooki on tanks

[blissful bane]

i dont have it yet

[edgy stone]

Don't worry you will get it soon enough

👍

[blissful bane]

i played uhh about 15-20 solomon games so far

[edgy stone]

What's your chapter level

[blissful bane]

i dont remember

i got the lmg 11 tho

and a few other things

[edgy stone]

Maybe you are level 10 above

Bazooka is so damn good against tanks

[blissful bane]

me want

tired of so many tanks

i might get it today hopefully

[edgy stone]

It almost deal 23 dmg minimum to heavy tanks

[blissful bane]

wish i had archer on solomon

lol

thing destroys tanks easily

[edgy stone]

Lol

Bazooka also has variable zeroing too

So you can snipe with bazooka as well

[blissful bane]

nice

[modern sedge]

Bazooka has enough ammo stored so you can 1v1 a tank right

[blissful bane]

its so satisfying to 1v1 a tank

[edgy stone]

@modern sedge yes if Tank don't detect you

[modern sedge]

How its inf performance though

[edgy stone]

Inf?

[blissful bane]

some tank drivers seem to instantly know where im at though even if im not doing anything

[modern sedge]

Vs Infantry

[edgy stone]

1 HIT KO AT ANY RANGE

Bazooka is also a sought of rocket sniper

[blissful bane]

i havent seen any cheaters in a while

which is nice

noone has done 200-0 with a lewis gun in my battles recently

[edgy stone]

Lewis gun is best for cheaters

[blissful bane]

i know

cause it doesnt overheat

unlike MMGs

which makes no sense

[compact oxide]

Well it does

[edgy stone]

In real life Lewis gun does heat

[compact oxide]

The Lewis has a huge water jacket

[blissful bane]

MMGs should be much less overheating than lmgs in the game

[compact oxide]

I disagree there

[blissful bane]

since lmgs trade sustained fire for mobility

thats why theyre lighter

hence the name

[compact oxide]

They trade higher rpm and bigger mags

[blissful bane]

they are belt fed

[compact oxide]

Yes

[stoic breach]

MMGs should be able to ADS and have better ranged damage as well

[blissful bane]

theyre made for sustained fire

[edgy stone]

I think which is better lmg Lewis or fg42

[stoic breach]

😩

[blissful bane]

which is why they should overheat less

[compact oxide]

Irl they overheated more, which is why you have the barrel swapping

[stoic breach]

If your MMG overheats because you waste ammo, thats on you

[blissful bane]

nah irl they overheat less

some in game can only do 50 round burst before overheat

while mg42 was about 2000 irl if i remember before barrel swap

[edgy stone]

Is fg42 better than Lewis gun

[blissful bane]

LMGs should overheat more than MMGs, they litterally trade sustained fire and cooling in order to be more light and mobile

altho some dont really overheat much, like the bren

or rather its slow for it

[edgy stone]

@blissful bane they were made light became mmg have more capacity and rpm than lmg so they sacrificed there

[blissful bane]

no they trade cooling too

to become lighter

[edgy stone]

Hmm I think Bren doesn't overheat that much

[stoic breach]

FG42 is still shit

[compact oxide]

Depends on the gun if it trades cooling

[blissful bane]

also S2 200 is listed as an MMG in bfv but it isnt one

[edgy stone]

@stoic breach agreed

[stoic breach]

😔

Rip FG42

4-99999 BTK LMG

[blissful bane]

so they should move s2 200 to lmg

[edgy stone]

@blissful bane s2 200 was cancelled by devs I guess

[compact oxide]

The Lewis has a water jacket hence it shouldn't overheat

[blissful bane]

bfv logic in real life would be fun

lmg better at sustained fire than mmg, making them pointless

and type 2A not overheating itself to a crisp

[minor drum]

FG42 still shreds if you use it correctly.

[edgy stone]

@blissful bane type 2a was just a experimental smg of max capacity of 62 and 600 rpm in real life

[blissful bane]

yeah i know

it would overheat to pieces with bfv fire rate

that and be impossible to aim

[stoic breach]

Using the FG42 properly is using it at midrange which it isnt good at anymore

It has the spread and magazine size for range but its only good up close now

[edgy stone]

@blissful bane well they are nerfing type 2a accuracy a lot

[stoic breach]

So its just a terrible weapon

[blissful bane]

It's like that italian gun i forgot, the aircraft gun with ridicolous fire rate that they had to use as an infrantry gun

[stoic breach]

Villar Perosa

[blissful bane]

yeah

[minor drum]

oh, i just use it at close range tbh @stoic breach

[blissful bane]

imagine if they added that gun

[stoic breach]

Its not designed for close range

Just use the KE7 or BAR or something

[edgy stone]

I wonder if they add ppsh 41

Best smg in ww2

[stoic breach]

670rpm is terrible in CQB, especially when SMGs and other LMGs are better at that distance

FG42 got seriously cucked

[blissful bane]

i really like slow firing mgs

well mostly

i also like m1922

900 rpm without being a mess to aim

just so long ttk at range

i think it does like 15-17 dmg at range

[edgy stone]

Ppsh 41 have 70 bullets and 900 rpm in real life

scary

[minor drum]

on FS it's good though @stoic breach

[stoic breach]

When was the last time you played Firestorm

[blissful bane]

i never play that

i only played it twice i think

[stoic breach]

Because after 5.2 it became like 18-34BTK or some shit like that

In FS

[blissful bane]

i like the type 11 mg

even though its weird

[sharp oxide]

Is this actually the Official Battlefield discord?

[minor drum]

yesterday

pink FG42 is a good gun

[blissful bane]

imagine if they added the lahti 20mm rifle, it's a semiautomatic at rifle

or the solothurn at rifle

[sharp oxide]

A semi auto AT Would be fun to use.

[blissful bane]

also i find it quite amusing that the Panzerbüchse has 400 m/s bullet velocity ingame

when it had 1210 m/s irl

it should be one of the fastest bullets in bfv but instead its the slowest lol

[edgy stone]

@blissful bane GG dice

[blissful bane]

it's a rifle bullet but with a massive charge

[stoic breach]

Semi-auto AT Rifle as a gadget would be hype as fuck

I would rate that so hard

[sharp oxide]

As a gadget would be awesome.

[stoic breach]

The AT Rifles should've been recon gadgets so they could be buffed and do actual damage to tanks

And be a legitimate threat

[blissful bane]

yeah

right now they do like nothing to tanks

[stoic breach]

And just have increased base spread so you cant hit people easily

[blissful bane]

which is historical but

meh

[stoic breach]

I've killed tanks with Boys AT but it took more effort than it should have

[blissful bane]

yeah same

[stoic breach]

Not saying it should be easy to kill tanks with them, but they should pose a significant threat

[open surge]

how much damage did the tankgewehr do in bf1

[stoic breach]

Like 30 or something

Cant remember exactly

[blissful bane]

tanks usually see me before i get a shot, but when I find someone clueless it's quite fun to watch them spin their turrets to find me

[sharp oxide]

Wasn't the actual AT for killing the crew within the tank?

[blissful bane]

yes

[open surge]

it was for maximum penetration and killing crew, yeah

but that factor doesn't even matter in battlefield

[stoic breach]

Well since theres no real crew dynamic in the game (thankfully), raw damage is a good balancing factor

[sharp oxide]

Then one bullet if penetrated in theory should be enough to someone within the tank.

[open surge]

but you have to be careful cos it's not a field pickup or gadget, it's a full-on primary

[stoic breach]

Yeah at like 10m away

[open surge]

hard to balance

[stoic breach]

Pen is a non-factor really

[open surge]

noscope a tank and destroy it

[stoic breach]

The AT Rifles should just have high enough raw damage

[blissful bane]

if there was crew dynamics then there would be far fewer tanks

[stoic breach]

Yeah tanks would also be annoying as fuck to play

[sharp oxide]

I know it's not a factor. But if that powerful IRL it should be moderately powerful.

[light radish]

what gun should I buy

[open surge]

if there were crew dynamics then people would want panzerfaust to be deleted

from the entire game

[stoic breach]

@light radish what class

[light radish]

I main support

mmgs

[open surge]

imagine if they just made bf vehicles have WoT mechanics

[stoic breach]

AT Rifles in general werent that good because they couldnt pen well at all

[open surge]

you can basically one shot tanks with anything

[blissful bane]

well they kinda do

[stoic breach]

@light radish get the S2200

[blissful bane]

its not like in wt where module damage kills the tank

[light radish]

only 30 rounds?

[stoic breach]

Doesnt matter

[light radish]

I magdump 250 round belts I think you underestimate me

[stoic breach]

Its got the range and reload speed

[blissful bane]

s2 200 is an lmg irl

[stoic breach]

S2200 is accurate enough where you dont even need to magdump

[shy badger]

M1919 is good for magdumping

[light radish]

I main the m1919

its my highest level gun

[stoic breach]

Thats sad

[blissful bane]

m1922 is decent but low damage per hit

but you can get 250 belt with that

[stoic breach]

MMGs need a universal buff cause they're piss right now

Its so sad

[blissful bane]

indeed

[light radish]

im just waiting for the mg42

is the 1906 sniper good

[sharp oxide]

I love Support but MMGs are way to risk and reward for me. Ill stick with LMGs

[stoic breach]

They need to be able to ADS, and magdump should make them more accurate with reverse spread

[light radish]

cuz all the SASs I have are ass

[shy badger]

You'll probably be disappointed by the mg42

[stoic breach]

And they need to do better damage at range than LMGs

[sharp oxide]

True

[stoic breach]

Theres very minor reward for the risk of using them

Mobility is worth more

[shy badger]

And the 1906 is pp

Op*

[open surge]

I don't know why mmgs are either aim down and somewhat spray

bipod up and all

or rambo style

[stoic breach]

MMGs that could ADS and have a 4-5BTK damage model would be super nice

Then they would be able to have different balance to LMGs

[sharp oxide]

Like in BC2.

[open surge]

never thought big ammo LMGs/MMGs were unbalanced

[stoic breach]

Yeah they never were, and MMGs have been underpowered since the game's launch

They were just easy to camp with

[open surge]

yeah there's some idiots who just camp

but they can do that with anything else

[blissful bane]

They also need to remove the damage perk vs planes

And replace it with something useful

[open surge]

guns like the mg42 should be able to aim while standing

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Plane damage from MMGs should be there by default

[open surge]

the downside would obviously be accuracy

but it's better than hipfire

[stoic breach]

And you could just pick and choose which MMGs can do it by default

[light radish]

and i started an mmg circlejerk great

[open surge]

I like the mmg's but why do I have to be made to prone

[light radish]

they should make you able to ADS but with high recoil on MMGs

[stoic breach]

Nah not high recoil

[open surge]

was the lMG 08/18 really that busted in BF1 or something? lol

[stoic breach]

Just high spread

[light radish]

they need to make all the mag fed mmgs lmgs too

[stoic breach]

And reverse spread

[light radish]

eh I guess

that makes more sense

[blissful bane]

Yeah

Well

[stoic breach]

They should be rewarded for magdump

[blissful bane]

S2 200 is mag fed but was a lmg irl

[stoic breach]

MMG overheat just balances magdump

[blissful bane]

So it's in wrong category in game

[light radish]

mmgs defining characteristic is the belt

[blissful bane]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

S2-200 and MG34 could have really cool balancing factors as MMGs

[light radish]

the mg34 sucks

[open surge]

the idea of an mmg is to be a massive magazine lockdown weapon

[stoic breach]

S2-200 could basically act as a 4-5BTK LMG

[sharp oxide]

Yeah it would be cool if you could get a teammate to do a belt feeding with an MMG

[stoic breach]

MG34 used to be one of the best MMGs in the game

[open surge]

something that nobody should be able to get past

[stoic breach]

But yeah now it sucks massively

[open surge]

i just hate the hipfire thing while upright

turns me off the entire class

[stoic breach]

Yeah but MMGs rewarded camping and encouraged it by not having the ability to ADS

[tawdry arrow]

the running mgs are worse than campers

[stoic breach]

Yeah, if MMGs just had the same ADS speed as bolt actions it would be fine

[shy badger]

You've got other guns though for support

[stoic breach]

👽

[shy badger]

The Bar, lewis and m37 are all good

[stoic breach]

BAR could be way better

[blissful bane]

and none of those are mmgs

[light radish]

if anything the BAR should have the hipfire mechanic

[blissful bane]

but yeah BAR is strong

[stoic breach]

BAR is still underpowered

[shy badger]

Right, I was just saying that not using the support class just because mmgs are shit is silly

[stoic breach]

High rpm and low rpm should have the same damage model

[light radish]

I know but historically speaking the BAR was used for walking fire

[stoic breach]

Which would be 4-6BTK

[light radish]

and the chauchat but I dont think thats in multiplayer

[open surge]

I love the BAR

[sharp oxide]

What's the best LMG rn?

[stoic breach]

Rip chauchat

[open surge]

probably the BAR

[tawdry arrow]

the type 11 for support is pretty good tbh

[stoic breach]

Best LMG overall would probably be Lewis

[open surge]

and type 11 is honestly good

[blissful bane]

yeah type 11 is decent

[open surge]

can we just not talk about the lewis gun

[blissful bane]

just weird

[open surge]

fuck that piece of shit

[blissful bane]

bren gun is alright too

[sharp oxide]

I'm using the type 12 rn but I don't find it better then the Lewis.

[blissful bane]

except in close range

[open surge]

lewis gun should stay in bf1

😤

[stoic breach]

Pre-5.2 though, all the LMGs were crisp

Lol the Lewis gun was stronger in BF1

Than BFV

[blissful bane]

the ttk on m1922 at range is stupid

[open surge]

well why bring that here

[shy badger]

Type 11 has nuch better damage than the lewis

[open surge]

🙎

[shy badger]

But the rpm is slower I think

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[blissful bane]

almost the same

[open surge]

yeah type 11 is slow

[blissful bane]

510 vs 514

[shy badger]

Haven't look at it's stats

[open surge]

but really accurate

[blissful bane]

if i remember right

[open surge]

no recoil

[stoic breach]

Lewis has 540 or something

Bren is 514

[open surge]

you're just fucked against someone with a higher fire rate ||type 2a||

[blissful bane]

ah

[stoic breach]

Type 2A isnt even that bad

[open surge]

it's E V E R Y W H E R E

[stoic breach]

If anything, more guns should feel like it

[open surge]

that's my issue with it

[warm atlas]

Disagree. Grease gun is a hard counter.

[stoic breach]

Well yeah cause its fun to use

[open surge]

because nothing else is

[stoic breach]

Grease gun is nice as well

[open surge]

what is a sten

[shy badger]

The m3 is a counter only if you can hit hs

[blissful bane]

krag is fun to use

[stoic breach]

I could definitely go on for hours about all the buffs that weapons should get

[warm atlas]

I flatout melt 2A users with the GG

[light radish]

I got destroyed by the type 2a from across the map is that normal

[shy badger]

Otherwise the t2a kills faster up close

[light radish]

the krag just reminds me of RDR2 and then I alt f4 and go play that cuz its a way better game

[stoic breach]

Nice

[open surge]

is rdr2 worth it for someone who couldn't play the original

[stoic breach]

You know what BFV needs

[tawdry arrow]

2a is supposed to be a close range smg but the extended mag + no recoil lets it become a sniper

[light radish]

@open surge yes

[stoic breach]

Hype weapons like MW has

[light radish]

its a prequel

[stoic breach]

Where is my Oden in BFV