#battlefield-legacy-titles

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tough lodge
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there should have been an easter egg for type 94 pistol

uneven hollow
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Bring bayonets for our jap bois

half wolf
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@solid hinge Also I think DICE made the new guns really shitty to offset the outcry over the Type 2A

tough lodge
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everytime you pull it out and put it back in holster you lose 10 hp

stoic breach
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Was the FG42 actually 900rpm irl

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Bro

strong parrot
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ngl i dont think they would have it firing that fast in rl

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that thing was fucking made light as hell

tough lodge
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c. 900 rounds/min Type I
c. 750 rounds/min Type III
c. 250 rounds/min practical

stoic breach
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Yea

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But in game tho

white lotus
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Just lost a Breakthrough game on Solomon Islands because our team was braindead and gave the Japanese all of our LVT's

half wolf
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@stoic breach FG42 first gen was 900, then they realized what was effectively a battle rifle firing at 900rpm was fucking insane, so they dropped it to 750 for the second gen

stoic breach
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What the heck

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750

tough lodge
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accurate just like in-game

stoic breach
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That means the BAR is closer to the FG42's rate of fire

tough lodge
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in game is like 720?

stoic breach
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And the FG42 is closer to the BAR

uneven hollow
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If bfv was made in 2008 like how cod waw was bfv would’ve had much bigger balls than present day bfv

stoic breach
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FG42 ingame is 670rpm

tough lodge
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670

stoic breach
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BAR is 720

tough lodge
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and bar only fired below 700

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like 650

stoic breach
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Yeah, like in BF1

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Where it was 600rpm

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Which is what the LS26 is

tough lodge
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type 2a irl only fired 800 rpm

stoic breach
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I was wondering how they were going to introduce the BAR when the LS26 was already there

tough lodge
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now we have pocket mg42

stoic breach
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Tbf thats more hype

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If it was 800rpm it would've been a better Type 100

dense bone
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Walked into the “this gun did this irl”

uneven hollow
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More weapons the better

solid hinge
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poor guns

tough lodge
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type 94 should be fired by slapping the back of the gun

solid hinge
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First gen of fg42 had a 10 mag

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900rpm 10 mag

tough lodge
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2 BTK

solid hinge
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which would actually be sick in game

tough lodge
stoic breach
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That would be so fun

solid hinge
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Yeah exactly

stoic breach
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If it was 3-4BTK

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Otherwise it would be broke as fuck

solid hinge
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5btk 10 mag gun

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6btk at 10 metres

stoic breach
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Aw hecka yeah

solid hinge
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🤯

tough lodge
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belt fed fg42

uneven hollow
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Or hear me out

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Players actually have 150 HP

stoic breach
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But the belt is still 20 rounds

tough lodge
stoic breach
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150hp is why Battlefront 2 is so fucked

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Its way too slow

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Especially with terrible damage models in the game as is

half wolf
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The belt fed FG42 is the granddaddy of the M60, IIRC

uneven hollow
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I wouldn’t be surprised if bfv HP is set at 105

tough lodge
stoic breach
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150 is Firestorm max HP

solid hinge
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Next patch they make all swbf2 soldiers 100hp and dont touch reinforcement health

stoic breach
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Oh yeah baby

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What they should do is make SWBF2 HP 100hp

solid hinge
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Specialists actually used to to be 100hp

stoic breach
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And let it start to regen after 3 seconds

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Lol wow

solid hinge
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That's why their burst gun is so good

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Glass cannons up close

uneven hollow
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Later on bfv adds in a new chapter about hardcore with features Italian vs France

solid hinge
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then they increased hp and didnt change damage

uneven hollow
tough lodge
solid hinge
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Fg42 isnt the grandad of the m60

half wolf
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Alright, so the Type 11 is the worst gun in the game now.

stoic breach
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Thats great ayla

half wolf
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Unusable up close, unusable at range.

solid hinge
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You don't like 4.8 second reloads?

strong parrot
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looool fg 42 with a belt

solid hinge
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On your 30 mag bren but shitter clone?

dense bone
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What’s the point of increasing hp if you increase dmg with it?

tough lodge
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will the fg 42 still be 670 rpm on single fire if you click fast enough?

solid hinge
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They just took a look at the successful mg42 and wanted to copy it with mobility elements also found in the fg42

strong parrot
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dude that would melt before you were done with that belt GWcorbinMonkaGIGA

solid hinge
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@stoic breach the last sniper you unlocked also does 100 damage on body shot so all the specialists with it unlocked were farming noobs every match

uneven hollow
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Fg 42 was nicked name saw gun right

stoic breach
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LOL

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Holy fuck

solid hinge
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No

icy sluice
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Aw man, T11 isn't in the Game Reports

half wolf
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Game Reports are slow to update

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But yeah, holy shit the T11 is bad.

solid hinge
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base sniper was like 3/4 btk with that thing being a 1btk to the body

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it was stupid as hell

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Fucks sake

stoic breach
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The base sniper is 4-4BTK

half wolf
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It's unusably bad. Pistols out-damage it, like with the Bren.

solid hinge
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bfv balancing is legit better than that

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The MG42 was nicknamed the third reichs head of states buzzsaw

stoic breach
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Its like 180rpm 4BTK

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Its a fucking joke

solid hinge
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It was 3btk at 100hp I think

stoic breach
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3 headshot kill

icy sluice
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That... works

tough lodge
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@solid hinge Austrian Painter's Buzzsaw

solid hinge
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Thats the one

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Which is still awful

stoic breach
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The Valken should be 2BTK

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For what it is

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Not fucking 4

strong parrot
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that last bolt is still 1 shot isnt it

stoic breach
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Nah

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2 shot

solid hinge
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battlefront default guns are borderline unusable for specialist and heavy

stoic breach
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One shot headshot

solid hinge
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Last one is a one shot to the head

strong parrot
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i finally got the last assault gun last night

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that rof seems so slow

stoic breach
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Yeah it is

icy sluice
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Aw man, the T11 just isn't in Battlefield Tracker at all :(

solid hinge
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Or if you're Chad you take the ion explosion mod on it

strong parrot
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but high damage GWjoegFeelsEvilMan

stoic breach
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The last assault gun is a statistically better Valken

solid hinge
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They gotta update the tracker

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Whats the t11

icy sluice
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Japanese LMG that top loads like the Perino

solid hinge
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Oh the type 11?

icy sluice
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I don't see a single reason to take the right side

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Yeah

solid hinge
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The last assault gun for swbf2 has massive recoil but the rof is so low the recoil resets between each shot so its ultra accurate

stoic breach
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But yeah legit, Valken should be 2BTK with a longer reload, IQA-11 should be 3BTK but fires and reloads faster

uneven hollow
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Does the Japanese have a mmg?

icy sluice
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no

solid hinge
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No

half wolf
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Support continues to have zero viable weapons.

uneven hollow
solid hinge
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DRILLING

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one shot for you

icy sluice
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I still dominate with the Support guns

solid hinge
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another shot for you because the first one did 6 damage

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oh fuck now I have a 3 second reload

stoic breach
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Yeah man

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Weapon balance amirite

uneven hollow
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Dice should add in HMG then

solid hinge
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tfw the 50 mag smgs reload faster than the drilling

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h-haha

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Is solomon islands good?

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Yet to try it cuz I just cant force myself to care about the pacific

icy sluice
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It's great

strong parrot
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do you enjoy falling on a railing with your crotch after failing a skateboard trick?

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then youll like solomon

solid hinge
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kek

uneven hollow
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Top kek

solid hinge
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how does it compare to other bf5 maps

icy sluice
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It's a really enjoyable map

tall rampart
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Well most people have played Solomon on breakthrough

strong parrot
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you like getting fucked by tanks? youll love it

uneven hollow
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Tbh on breakthrough it needs more objectives in the jungle

tall rampart
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The real question is it a decent conquest map?

short pecan
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uhh guys how are they gonna make up for the lack of chapter exp for chapter 6? since there's only 7 weeks?

icy sluice
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Ye

uneven hollow
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Because idk but for me it feels like less jungle than land

half wolf
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It is, actually.

solid hinge
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Probably not

half wolf
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I love it on CQ.

icy sluice
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@short pecan XP rate seems to have increased

solid hinge
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Dont think theres a single good conquest map in bf5

half wolf
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Real talk though, I almost feel like DICE is trying to intentionally kill the game now.

strong parrot
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heres how it seems to play out, if you have US tankers with at least half a fucking brain in breakthrough... you wont be able to take them out as the japs, and every position will get overran because youll just die to MG and cannon spam while having no defenses to hide behind against their infantry

solid hinge
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Good maps in general are rare in bf5

icy sluice
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In 12 matches I am level 11

stoic breach
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Haha lunge mine haha

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Thats the balancing factor

half wolf
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@solid hinge good anything is rare in BF5

stoic breach
short pecan
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well i hope its significant because in chapoter 5 i barely hit 40 despite doing almost every single node every week

uneven hollow
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I mean look at Bethesda they are killing their game

tall rampart
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2 matches in I’m level 3

solid hinge
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@strong parrot sounds awesome

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XP rates are higher, the levels up to 30 require less XP

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@half wolf truth

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Theres 12 weeks like normal theyre just only showing 7 for some reason

half wolf
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Alright I'm done with the T11. Never using that piece of shit again.

strong parrot
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if the US doesnt have competent tankers which seems like a stretch because of the amount of LVTs and shermans they get

short pecan
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oh really

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thats reassuring

strong parrot
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then they just get farmed

stoic breach
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Whats the rate of fire

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On the T11

half wolf
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@solid hinge "there are 12 weeks" how many times have they lied to us?

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510 rpm

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same damage model as the Bren

stoic breach
half wolf
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Worse recoil, slower reload

strong parrot
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the 12 weeks are probably bugged and only work on the dev server

stoic breach
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Bren clone bren clone

solid hinge
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hey guys what if we put americans on attack AGAIN

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12 weeks for 12 cosmetic items or worse

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isnt that FUNNY

stoic breach
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Gotta love copypaste weapons

fierce radish
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Solomon Islands is fine

solid hinge
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dont you want to get farmed by LVTs for the 4th map in a row

tall rampart
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6 tier skip tokens this chapter

fierce radish
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But they need to redo wake

icy sluice
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Americans invaded a lot in World War II, they are from a completely different continent

short pecan
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yeah im getting kinda tired of the same attacking/defending factions over and over as well

solid hinge
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Man I think I might just uninstall

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Yeah but it's boring gameplay wise

strong parrot
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so fucking dumb too even if you are just being MG spammed by the coaxial gunners in the tanks its annoying as fuck

solid hinge
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I barely ever see the kami

strong parrot
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and you cant do anything

uneven hollow
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Make Americans defend Okinawa and have the Japanese attack

half wolf
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Real talk I hope DICE stops supporting this game, and calls it quits. With the sole exception of the 5.0 update, every single thing they have added to the game has made it worse.

solid hinge
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This talk is making me not want to waste more time waiting for them to fix this shit 😂

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because you need the type 97s to fight back vs the Sherman and LVT spam

short pecan
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also didnt they literally reverse attackers/defenders on wake?

half wolf
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mhm

solid hinge
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picking kami is basically a waste

half wolf
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To save assets so they don't have to make Japanese carriers and landing craft

solid hinge
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^

strong parrot
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did someone say revert?

uneven hollow
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To save them more assets

solid hinge
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what the fuck happened to the dedicated vehicle rebalancing in 6.0 actually

prime pine
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Flamethrower ka-mi!

uneven hollow
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Bring Italians vs France

solid hinge
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where did that go

icy sluice
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Americans defended Wake only once in Battlefield history

strong parrot
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there were 2 things they balanced?

half wolf
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@solid hinge they forgot to include it apparently

strong parrot
solid hinge
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Where did vehicle balance in general go

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fuck

strong parrot
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oh shit that works as an answer to ayla

solid hinge
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bmac

strong parrot
solid hinge
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that one got me

uneven hollow
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Where’s tank customization

icy sluice
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6.2

uneven hollow
prime pine
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Ayla

half wolf
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Just like how I forgot to include my entire software update at work when I pushed it into the develop branch. No biggie, I'll do it again in 2 months.

solid hinge
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Why do we even want tank customization

prime pine
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Want to see something fucked

strong parrot
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oh thats why 6.2 is going to take forever

solid hinge
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im cackling

short pecan
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the tab is just gonna vanish one day

solid hinge
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Always

uneven hollow
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For memes

solid hinge
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Do u rly want to pay $20 for a tank skin that bad?

half wolf
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Because if not, it's another thing DICE has lied to us about

prime pine
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Tell me whats wrong with ot

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It

strong parrot
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those people have bought boins?

uneven hollow
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I mean it be a waste of time if they cancel tank customization

half wolf
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I love how people are okay with paying $20 for a tank skin when that used to get you 4-8 weapons, 4 maps, and a shitton of other stuff in the old BF games.

strong parrot
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thats whats wrong

short pecan
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only 3/4 gas masks

half wolf
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Live service is a fucking failure.

prime pine
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Shotgun

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We're all using fucking shotguns

fierce radish
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Yea

solid hinge
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Premium needs to come back in the next bf game

icy sluice
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Live Service is coming to the next couple of EA games

strong parrot
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shooting unaware enemies in the side with a shotgun HyperWeary

solid hinge
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GAS

half wolf
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Live service is a cancer.

icy sluice
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Apparently player reception is very high for Live Services

solid hinge
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I‘ll take premium over this boins shit anyday

strong parrot
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dice must be fucking having a laugh this morning

solid hinge
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Means we actually get good content

strong parrot
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look at all these idiots buying the booster pack

solid hinge
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If live service is done well it works great for retaining playerbase

strong parrot
solid hinge
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also cosmetics = more cash than dlcs

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Im yet to see one great live service from a paid game

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people already spend boins on everything they can

half wolf
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@solid hinge you joke but actually though

short pecan
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meanwhile bfv live-service:
here's your haircut as this weeks free content bro!

icy sluice
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Cosmetics is actually giving them more money it looks like

uneven hollow
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Idk about anyone but I’ll pay 10 dollars or so for Italian vs France

solid hinge
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Genuinely

half wolf
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I cannot believe people thought $15 for cosmetics was okay

solid hinge
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People will shell out boins for anything

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Wonder how much bf5 raked in with boins purchases

icy sluice
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So people enjoy Live Service more

solid hinge
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People buying elites and using them like twice

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dude

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I wouldnt say enjoy

half wolf
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BF5 has jumped up the rankings to the worst game I own.

solid hinge
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you could have bought so much pizza with that

strong parrot
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who wants to shit on me for buying the deluxe edition to play early?

solid hinge
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me

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Its more about market manipulation and player deception

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how could you betray me like this bmac

half wolf
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@strong parrot I'm sorry, you didn't deserve that

strong parrot
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well you know what people have spent more on boins than i did paying for that edition GWcorbinHolyFuck

compact oxide
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I bought deluxe for early access too

half wolf
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But also NEVER PREORDER SHIT EVER

solid hinge
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oh god no that makes it even worse

icy sluice
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NO

half wolf
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BUY TWO WEEKS AFTER LAUNCH

strong parrot
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@solid hinge DID JUST JUST AS ME HOW?

uneven hollow
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Dice devs be like

WoahTea everything is good

half wolf
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NEVER EVER EVER PREORDER

strong parrot
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GWsabianPepoHmm i mean it works somehow

compact oxide
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And also got a month of origin access for super early access Yikes

solid hinge
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Do ppl still believe in soviet dlc?

strong parrot
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just pretend im a pretentious CM

solid hinge
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Tfw I will never get paid for people to down vote me 1500 times on reddit

sterile current
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So me and a group of scientific hackers decided to see what would happen if we had the ability to have all of the specializations unlocked.

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We found some interesting results,

solid hinge
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This man is working with nuclear specialists

uneven hollow
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Better question is
Do people believe in Italian vs France dlc

strong parrot
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i mean imo...i got my months worth out of what i paid for the game

icy sluice
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I am getting close to 900 hours now

strong parrot
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its just disappointing as fuck what theyre doing

low totem
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literally who

solid hinge
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Or do people still believe in any dlc past this chapter

low totem
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ever thought french v italy

compact oxide
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@sterile current that sounds like a clickbait article title

low totem
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was coming

tropic ice
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Is the lunge mine in practice mode yet

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I wanna test it on a tank there

uneven hollow
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Or even a better question does anyone expect all factions dlc

icy sluice
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Just run at it

uneven hollow
sterile current
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Now before you say it would be way to overpowered, for some guns yes, but most guns not at all.

compact oxide
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You think they'll add anything to the practise range Yikes

solid hinge
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I still wonder where all the shit from the chapter 4 trailer are at

icy sluice
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Type 11 is there iirc

uneven hollow
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In the 5v5

sterile current
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MMG’s got the greater benefit having all of the specialization unlocked.

uneven hollow
tropic ice
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When are different tank models coming though Thonk

strong parrot
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whats missing from chapter 4 trailer now...welrod and 1911 silenced?

uneven hollow
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Imagine wanting bfv to be like cod ww2

covert cypress
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You guys diggin that new Medal of Honor Pacific Assault trailer or what? hehe. Ugh I feel that I'm too old now.

solid hinge
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Thats how low the standard is lmao @uneven hollow

compact oxide
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Imagine a 250 round 1200rpm MG42 Yikes

uneven hollow
tropic ice
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What the fuck

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Cursed

sterile current
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SAR’s weren’t too overpowered, AR’s the same as SAR’s, LMG’s the same as SAR’s, and Sniper became extremely overpowered.

strong parrot
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hmm that would be 12btk weapon

low totem
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welrod

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wont come this chapter

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mark my words

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MARK THEM

strong parrot
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its a dumb weapon anyways

low totem
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oh yeah, its got no use whatsoever

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doesnt mean i dont want it

solid hinge
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Also how come they still havent added all the vehicle skins into the game

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wait

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What the fuck are they saving them for

strong parrot
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people like ayla would try and use it while being sneaky sneak and then have 3 enemies spawn on the person about to die, and then get fucked with a single shot silenced weapon OMEGALUL

uneven hollow
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I’ll mark every unreleased and future content weapons and gadgets and factions won’t release

solid hinge
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did shotguns get buckshot AND slugs

rocky verge
solid hinge
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God dont even remind me bmac

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What's the point of stealth when people can spawn on your target

strong parrot
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wait hol up.....remember the datamined shotgun that had a slut and buckshot round loaded at once?

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YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOT HIM WHEN YOU ROUNDED THE CORNER FUCK THE THROWING KNIFE

solid hinge
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Whats the point of stealth when recon can just give free uav

fierce radish
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Ah yes

strong parrot
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your fault for dying there GWcorbinFeelsDabMan

fierce radish
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Slut rounds

stoic breach
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Slut rounds

solid hinge
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I HAD THE THROWING KNIFE READY IN CASE HE WAS CAMPING IN A CORNER WITH MMG

uneven hollow
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Ah I yES I remember the shotgun having slut rounds

strong parrot
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WEAK

fierce radish
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My favorite

solid hinge
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THROWING KNIFE > CAMPERS

short pecan
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whats the point of mowing down 7 people in a flank when a single medic can just revive them in mere seconds haHAA

rocky verge
strong parrot
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dying>living

icy sluice
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Lunge Mine > Campers

strong parrot
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ayla breaking the discord tos

uneven hollow
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Slut rounds > slug rounds

fierce radish
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Yup lmao

strong parrot
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@fierce radish Omegalol

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i just noticed that

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thanks

fierce radish
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lol

short pecan
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i swear to god slugs have some fucky base spread going on

strong parrot
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but im not changing it now

fierce radish
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We need a mod to pin it lol

solid hinge
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I'll throwing knife a thousand campers before I let this company die

open surge
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most devastating and scary sounds of world war 2:

  • stuka jericho sirens
  • v-1 buzz bombs
  • artillery fire
  • type 2a firing
strong parrot
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but seriously wasnt there a shotgun that had 2 bullets in the chamber??

tough lodge
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do we have video about m1a1 bazooka back blast already

strong parrot
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it was going to be op as fuck lol

tough lodge
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can someone test it

strong parrot
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you had a buckshot loaded and then put a slug in front of it

tall rampart
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That sounds horribly unsafe

icy sluice
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Yeah that was the Model 37

solid hinge
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just put every round in the barrel at once

icy sluice
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How is that unsafe?

tall rampart
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And impossible

open surge
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the first few rounds will just fall out of the gun

tall rampart
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Oh was that the 37?

solid hinge
open surge
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or not fire at all

strong parrot
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shotguns are safe as hell...put anything down the tube haHAA

icy sluice
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Yeah it was the Model 37, now they got rid of that

low totem
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wheres the picture that accurately describes the new map

solid hinge
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Oh

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:(

icy sluice
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Put Wheat inside the tube, make bread

tough lodge
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guys

low totem
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its the new spotting thing

solid hinge
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Can they make it the m1897 then

open surge
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new map is fun

low totem
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everywhere

open surge
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for 4 matches

tough lodge
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test the back blast for m1a1 bazooka please

rocky verge
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I put Ayla rage in the tube for more range and dmg

icy sluice
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That backwards revolver can kill if you hipfire btw

solid hinge
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actually just add triple barrel spec for drilling

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please

prime pine
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Ayla, the m37 is significantly better than m1897

solid hinge
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ill pay boins

short pecan
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well i wholeheartedly hope that nobody here actually bought all the ranks haHAA

icy sluice
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@solid hinge Not enough barrels

prime pine
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Its so good

solid hinge
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the m1897 is POOP

prime pine
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You seen my clips?

strong parrot
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what do you want added to the drilling?

low totem
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i used the lunge mine

solid hinge
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It's got that nifty little under barrel for the sniper round

low totem
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ran into a door

dense bone
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I hope someone bought all the ranks and still sucks

low totem
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died

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10/10

icy sluice
solid hinge
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I just want that triple trigger

rocky verge
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Someone did @dense bone

short pecan
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drilling needs an underbarrel shotgun

prime pine
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Doom doom doom!

rocky verge
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Saw them running around with the M1 bazooka and lunge mine as the new elite

open surge
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i like it when i kill ilse on solomon islands

dense bone
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Are they good now? I heard bfv was pay to win because of that

rocky verge
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No

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They still died a lot

tough lodge
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how do i type tilde on mac

dense bone
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What? I was lied to

icy sluice
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idk

uneven hollow
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Or killing elite jap lady in Solomon

low totem
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~

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copy paste that

uneven hollow
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Not so sneaky now huh

low totem
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there

uneven hollow
short pecan
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lunge mine seems like a gimmick

dense bone
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I thought it was pay to win. I was gonna skip rent to buy all the levels so I could be good.

strong parrot
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duh

low totem
#

the lunge mine is ok

strong parrot
#

bugged gimmick

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still bugged

icy sluice
#

Lunge Mine is great

strong parrot
#

buy our booster pack

#

BUY NOW

icy sluice
#

That bug happens very rarely

low totem
#

its not great, imo

#

its ok

#

but not great

prime pine
#

It really is a fun weapon

icy sluice
#

Obviously you haven't killed 5 people with it

dense bone
#

Shouldn’t it be op? I can pay for it

tough lodge
#

god fuckign damn it mac is so confusing

solid hinge
#

Suffers from inconsistent damage like all the anti armour weapons

icy sluice
#

I've already destroyed 6 tanks with the Lunge Mine

strong parrot
#

ive killed 0 with it

solid hinge
#

peak fun for infantry though

low totem
#

correct, the only person ive killed with it is myself

strong parrot
#

because im not playing haHAA

prime pine
#

If you have friends you can insta gib tanks

#

In this example

tall rampart
#

Can you use it in the Jeep

icy sluice
#

First time I used it I heard 3 other American Soldiers screaming "CHARGE" towards a Type 97

dense bone
#

Couldn’t you Insta gib before with friends?

icy sluice
#

@tall rampart yes

tough lodge
#

how do i type this ` on mac

low totem
#

i cant wait to use it as a brit against those german tanks

#

too realistic

#

smh

open surge
#

LOL

prime pine
#

Against heavies it does 40

uneven hollow
#

What do the German say when they use it

open surge
#

there's a video on the sub that shows bazooka turning into panzerschreck?

tough lodge
#

@open surge yes

short pecan
#

IIHHHRRR SCHWEIIINEEEEEE

tough lodge
low totem
#

probably the same sounds as the bayonet

strong parrot
#

tfw the model is in game literally

low totem
#

charge

strong parrot
#

can we get it in the MP part of the game pls mr dev?

uneven hollow
#

CatBeSad when the Japanese doesn’t say banzai

low totem
#

whats that in response to, bmac?

#

the revert?

strong parrot
#

anything you want it to be GWbowsuBlobGuns

short pecan
#

chauchat

low totem
#

rip chauchat

short pecan
#

no worries here's your 3rd bren clone HAHA

low totem
#

did the chauchat guy stop making memes now? he always used to

#

and then it didnt happen

stoic breach
#

Chauchat got nerfed even though you cant actually use it in MP

short pecan
#

i guess he got tired

stoic breach
#

Combined arms nerf

rocky verge
#

New spec for Every gun:Ayla rage rounds
Increase gun dmg for 10 seconds

short pecan
#

cant blame him

rocky verge
#

Blame who?

uneven hollow
#

When the chuchat gets nerf even without being in MP

rocky verge
#

Wait whag

#

Really

#

Nerfing a SP gun

#

Did the NPC says it was to overpowered dice

compact oxide
#

Oh wait yeah the chauchat is still missing that's right Yikes

stoic breach
#

Yeah

uneven hollow
compact oxide
#

What a trash fire

stoic breach
#

Welgun and Sterling are also missing

open surge
#

pizza gun

uneven hollow
#

Coming soon guys

stoic breach
#

Although they arent that interesting

short pecan
#

i dont think its coming anytime soon

#

maybe in the french vs italian dlc :^)

uneven hollow
compact oxide
#

Welrod is what I wanted instead of the liberator

tall rampart
#

Don’t forget the Sjogren that’s been missing for a year

rocky verge
#

No French vs Italian stop dreaming that

tough lodge
short pecan
#

yugoslavian partisan dlc soon too

uneven hollow
#

We still need that dlc

#

It was supposed to be in launch

#

If dice really wanted a time line

rocky verge
#

Launch
Dice:ah you mean in 2022?

low totem
#

back when firestorm was a thing, me and my buddies did a liberator only run

uneven hollow
#

Indeed late 2022

low totem
#

we did not win

#

but it was funny as fuck

stoic breach
#

!!when

ruby trailBOT
#

Soon™

compact oxide
#

!!oof

ruby trailBOT
#

yeet

uneven hollow
#

But when

rocky verge
#

!!soon

tall rampart
#

Why do I feel the eastern front will be the last big content dump, then the remainder of the game will feel like filler?

short pecan
#

italo-abyssinian war soon guys

rocky verge
#

Oh wait no special role yet

#

Mods when

stoic breach
#

Didnt you used to have jt

rocky verge
#

Yes

uneven hollow
#

Imagine working on firestorm/5v5/co-op/grand ops/team death match maps/unused weapons-gadgets/bfv

open surge
#

bludgers

tall rampart
#

Isn’t grand ops basically abandoned because it’s inferior in every way to operations from BF1

uneven hollow
#

Sadly yes

rocky verge
#

BF1 operations was so much fun

#

Dice just add that

#

Plz

uneven hollow
#

Ikr

tall rampart
#

It even had little stories in it

rocky verge
#

Greedy A I'll pay you muneh

uneven hollow
#

At least you a chance at winning if your other 2 attacks failed

half wolf
#

Holy fuck DICE, why are you trying to intentionally fucking ruin your game

uneven hollow
#

With the behemoths

low totem
#

operations

#

ballroom

#

theyre digging the bodies of their comrades

#

to make trenches

ocean night
#

if the next battlefield is either just improved BF2: Modern Combat, 2142, or BF2, I'm happy

uneven hollow
#

Jerry’s don’t know us Brits

stoic breach
#

You know honestly

strong parrot
#

you want a modern battlefield?

open surge
#

you will never see classic battlefield ever again

gentle epoch
#

a symphony of 10,000 guns

prime pine
#

Breakthrough is the closest we have. The game wasnt designed multiple map breakthrough

stoic breach
#

If the behemoth airship wasnt playable but it was there it might be alright

rocky verge
#

Who would win elite soldiers who fought since 1914 or some Fat US bois

uneven hollow
#

I think ima drink all that whiskey but then what will I drink TeEAa

rocky verge
low totem
#

hopefully the next battlefield isnt some modern combat shit

prime pine
#

I can see Hamada and aerodrome working battalions

half wolf
#

@solid hinge the Type 11 is so bad that most pistols beat it out

low totem
#

lets go war of 1812 lets go!

prime pine
#

Its a japanese bren

ocean night
#

replace the titan in 2142 with an airship

prime pine
#

Have you even played with the bren

uneven hollow
#

If only they made battlefield 2

low totem
#

its a bren

uneven hollow
low totem
#

with the mag

ocean night
#

since they have interiors in BF1 campaign

rocky verge
#

Have you played the KE7

tall rampart
#

2142 remastered or 2143 would be cool

rocky verge
short pecan
#

bren was my favorite lmg before 5.2

prime pine
#

Bren with the hopper

low totem
#

obscuring the view even more

prime pine
#

Bren was my second favourite and im surprised there are people that still get it to work

low totem
#

oh wait i thought you were talkin bout madsen

#

my bad

prime pine
#

Havent even bothered to get the last 1500 kills. As im so close to 10K with it.

open surge
#

i like how you can just

#

poke someone with the lunge mine

tall rampart
#

Madsen was ruined from BF1 to BF5

prime pine
#

I liked the madsens higher rof

#

But

#

In bf5 it has a nice niche

ocean night
#

and I don't want modern combat remaster to be modern per se, just the bodyswapping, openended singleplayer campaign

stoic breach
#

Madsen in BFV in 5.0 was actually really good

short pecan
#

tfw mp34 is still your gun with the most kills

#

ibarely played since 5.2 HAHA

ocean night
#

and I want BF2 because I adore some of those maps

stoic breach
#

MP34 could've been something special

#

But now its just 5-7BTK wack shit

#

Same as mab

half wolf
#

Also to continue keeping tally. Tonight's gameplay session has netted seven ragehackers.

tall rampart
#

It is decent, you just got to be careful

ocean night
#

only seven?

half wolf
#

Honestly at this point, everyone should cheat. Kill the game faster, and force DICE to invest in anticheat for whatever next failure they pump out in 2 years.

ocean night
#

lucky

dense bone
#

I’ve seen less that 10 hackers in 150 hours.

tall rampart
#

I wish the MAB was viable, but without extended mag, imo it’s not

open surge
#

mp34 is low btk with like

#

2nd slowest fire rate of the smg's

#

yes you can get light bolt but then you have 20 rounds

short pecan
#

yeah 5.2 fucked it over bad

#

used to be my favorite

tall rampart
#

@open surge I like high capacity since I’m not the best shot

open surge
#

same

ocean night
#

the hackers tend to avoid servers that have a discord because they get banned by the server admins faster, so I gravitate to those servers

open surge
#

it also makes the gun useful Omegalol

tall rampart
#

Yeah

short pecan
#

high rof mp34 is just a waste

#

just use a sten or mp40 instead

half wolf
#

@ocean night I have yet to see a single active community server

short pecan
#

at least it was pre-5.2

dense bone
#

Mp34 is a ranged smg though

stoic breach
#

Nah high RPM MP34 is pretty good

#

Its better than MP40/STEN

dense bone
#

Probably low recoil and decent ttk for its range.

stoic breach
#

Unless you want to use it at close range

half wolf
#

I was just in a match with a whole platoon and lo and behold, two cheaters popped in. They definitely got reported at ;east a dozen times.

tall rampart
#

I barely play medic or support for that matter, they are kind of useless with the fact you can build med and ammo stations

dense bone
#

Why use an ar style smg up close?

half wolf
#

If you pick support, you actively hurt your team IMHO

short pecan
#

huh permanent healing is one of best traits as a medic

half wolf
#

But medic is super good with the new TTK

#

You can often outheal any incoming damage

tall rampart
#

Is it?

open surge
#

medic also gets the best guns

compact oxide
#

Low rpm MP34 was unironically one of my favorite bits of bfv

dense bone
#

Outheal dmg? No

compact oxide
#

Lol medic guns are trash

dense bone
#

Medic best guns? No

short pecan
#

i mean unless you want to walk over to a station anytime you eat a stray bullet yeah

icy sluice
#

Low RPM MP34 is still pretty good

short pecan
#

also the cooldown of first aid stations is pretty damn high

open surge
#

2a, grease gun, suomi and tommy

#

not toppest tier but better than what most other classes have

dense bone
#

2a and Suomi are best under 20m other than shotguns.

compact oxide
#

All of which are close range peashooters

dense bone
#

That’s it

half wolf
#

Jungle Carbine.

open surge
#

did you forget about 5.2

#

no such thing as long range

compact oxide
#

I still miss BF4 and BF1

open surge
tall rampart
#

Idk, it’s just most of the smg’s kind of suck, the carbines are more for long range which I feel clashes with the medic

royal gull
#

BF1 sucked

half wolf
#

The single best ranged weapon in the game aside from the ZH-29

dense bone
#

There is a lot of ranged weapons.

royal gull
#

BF4 was only good after 6 months

#

Plus

compact oxide
#

BF1 was great tbh

short pecan
#

yeah i dont really like bf1 either

icy sluice
#

BF1 was fun but had some pretty annoying shit

short pecan
#

tried it out again a few days ago

open surge
#

can actually have fun with bf1

compact oxide
#

Medic having SARs was WearyOk

short pecan
#

but the grenade spamwas just awful

dense bone
#

Here’s a kicker. Zh/1906 can beat 2a at 20m

open surge
#

good ol gas grenades

short pecan
#

and i encountered more hackers there than on 5

icy sluice
#

There was a lot of grenade spam so most people just camped as a medic or scout

royal gull
#

Wake Island Conquest in BFV is the most fun I've had with Battlefield since Bad Company 2

tall rampart
#

I actually wasn’t really bothered by grenade spam

compact oxide
#

Grenade spam is not that bad outside certain maps

icy sluice
#

Amiens and Fort Du Vaux calls

compact oxide
#

looking at you fort

dense bone
#

Jungle Carbine isn’t the best sniper either. It’s just on an op class

royal gull
#

I'm not super fond of Solomon Islands

short pecan
#

oh and i learned about spawn camping on amiens E flag HAHA

royal gull
#

More so in Conquest than Breakthrough

short pecan
#

shit is so fun

tall rampart
#

Fort Du Vaux was the best French map imo

open surge
#

it's fun when they don't have servers consisting of only solomon islands

marble phoenix
#

Yea I’m fucking with Solomon Islands

open surge
#

im burnt out already

royal gull
#

I just want Wake Conquest 24/7

marble phoenix
#

Conq > any mode

royal gull
#

I wish they'd stop pushing Breakthrough so hard

tough lodge
#

breakthrough > any mode

open surge
#

imagine having up to 2 tanks on the map

tough lodge
#

fight me

open surge
#

post made by US Army in Pacific breakthrough maps

royal gull
#

It's good on a handful of maps as a combo breaker after a half dozen Conquest maps

short pecan
#

yeah im enjoying breakthrough far more than conquest

marble phoenix
#

Conq for the OGs

tall rampart
#

Breakthrough on the first three pacific maps are good

tough lodge
#

conquest is just running around simulator

tall rampart
#

Other than that meh

short pecan
#

running from flag to flag gets tiring

#

and defending alone is a waste of time

open surge
#

i tried defending alone on b flag on wake in a flamethrower tank pensivewiggle

tall rampart
#

In BF5 I’ve had so many one sided games, it’s ridiculous

open surge
#

overrun by new lunge mine

royal gull
#

That's why Wake is the best Conquest map

open surge
#

glad it exists tbh

royal gull
#

It has a natural frontline

compact oxide
#

Conquest in BF1 was pretty great imo

short pecan
#

what

#

it was awful

#

the point system was fucking shit

compact oxide
#

Just needed to find the balance of play

upper jetty
#

Frontlines was the best

tall rampart
#

Closest game I ever had was 0-1 defeat

compact oxide
#

Point system was eh

open surge
#

had a 5-0 game yesterday on devastation

tall rampart
#

That was about a year ago @open surge

open surge
#

lol

#

i like close games like that

compact oxide
#

Spent most of my time in between the enemy lines wiping them out in BF1

open surge
#

then the next match, we had a lower amount of players, no planes in the air

#

and we had 0-565 defeat

short pecan
#

the only thing i miss from bf1 is the model 8 marksman

tall rampart
#

It’s been a while since I’ve had a game where I felt like I wasn’t steamrolling/being steamrolled

open surge
#

am i experiencing bugs or

compact oxide
#

I miss the weapon balance

dense bone
#

Only thing from bf1 I miss is the optimization.

tough lodge
#

can dice give us all 500 Boins

open surge
#

is it difficult to trigger finger semi autos in bf5 now

compact oxide
#

And the sense of fun

uneven hollow
#

If they remaster cod waw

#

Then I’ll play that instead

compact oxide
#

There is no fun in BFV sadcat

open surge
#

i keep trying to use the pistols but they jam or something lol

#

nothing like that in bf1

tall rampart
#

@compact oxide yeah

rocky verge
#

Short chapter I realized

compact oxide
#

1906 factory in BF1 tho WearyOk

rocky verge
#

7 weeks

tall rampart
#

BF5 is such a fucking roller coaster

open surge
#

i was scum that used autoloading 8.25

tough lodge
open surge
#

and mondragon

#

and autotragico

half wolf
#

Nine cheaters tonight.

#

FUCKING NINE

tall rampart
#

I was scum with Automatico Factory, 305 kills

half wolf
#

ON US EAST SERVERS

#

WHAT THE FUCK

short pecan
stoic breach
#

Wow

compact oxide
#

Eh I preferred the Farquhar hill optical and 1906 factory

dense bone
#

Wait... weren’t guns behind dlc in bf1?

rocky verge
#

Me on console:What now

short pecan
#

yeah

rocky verge
#

Yes

uneven hollow
#

Yes

compact oxide
#

Yes

rocky verge
#

People complained and wanted it free

compact oxide
#

DLC is better ngl

rocky verge
#

They got that wish

tall rampart
#

@open surge autotragico lol

dense bone
#

And people are complaining now about pay to win bfv?

rocky verge
#

Now they complained even more

half wolf
#

Needless to say, I will never buy anything from DICE ever again.

rocky verge
tough lodge
#

BFV Reveal Trailer - Omegalol
Alpha and Beta - pogu
Release - weirdChamp
Chapter 1 to 3 😪
Chapter 4 - weirdChamp
Chapter 5 - pogu pogu pogu pogu
Chapter 5.2 - FeelsMeowMan
Chapter 6 - ThinkHmm

tall rampart
#

Sure you won’t @half wolf

rocky verge
#

@dense bone people got that wish of free dlc now they complaining again about paying

dense bone
#

This community man.

rocky verge
#

Nothing makes them happy

dense bone
#

At least be consistent.

half wolf
#

@tall rampart I'm sure you're unfamiliar with the concept of self control

compact oxide
#

I was super keen with alpha and beta and quickly dropped off to hatred after that

tall rampart
#

No

half wolf
#

I was iffy on the alpha and beta, felt better going into the first few months, then it's been a steady downhill slide.

short pecan
#

hey remember when combat roles were announced as this big gameplay-changing thing haHAA

tall rampart
#

I can, just most who say that buy the game anyway

half wolf
#

Except for 5.0

pastel heath
#

How many female skins does the game have right now?

dense bone
#

People just want f2p bfv with free live service and perfect gameplay. Then they won’t bitch.

short pecan
#

and now they're pretty much useless and dont change shit except for one or 2

tough lodge
#

@pastel heath male and female skins are the same except for hair

pastel heath
#

Wow, lazy EA

tall rampart
#

Male and female are purely cosmetic

half wolf
#

I'd rather drop $120 for a game plus Premium to get consistent quality.

uneven hollow
#

Remember when guns had different varieties

half wolf
#

Well, we are getting consistent quality.

tough lodge
#

no, women have 60 hp

pastel heath
#

It's not like halo 2 where elites had bigger hitboxes?

half wolf
#

Bad quality.

#

@tall rampart This is actually the first Battlefield game I bought close to launch.

tall rampart
#

Same actually

uneven hollow
#

Trans be having 160 hp

half wolf
#

I got BF4 well past their launch fiasco, and I generally never buy games on launch.

uneven hollow
#

Simply quick math

pastel heath
#

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh @uneven hollow

#

gotem

tough lodge
#

about that

#

yeah

uneven hollow
half wolf
#

Lesson learned.

tough lodge
#

im not gonna buy a bf game on release

short pecan
#

i bought bf1 somewhat close to launch but dropped it shortly after the first dlc

tough lodge
#

wait like 3 to 6 months

half wolf
#

I loved BF1, but it seems like I'm in the minority.

pastel heath
#

I refuse to buy non historically accurate battlefields so I haven't played since BF4

half wolf
#

Lmao buddy

pastel heath
#

BF4 is so good though

open surge
#

guess you're never coming back

tall rampart
#

@half wolf really? I love that game

open surge
#

it's been fun

uneven hollow
#

Cybernetics be giving 20 hp while being a different race add 10

dense bone
#

When bf4 releases dlc before the game was fully functional. And people say bf4 was their favorite and bfv should be like it.

tough lodge
#

imagine this

uneven hollow
#

190 hp

tough lodge
#

BF4 but with BF5's movement system and graphics

open surge
#

key word there is "was"

short pecan
#

Battlefield 5000 bc when

half wolf
#

@tall rampart same! It's polished, fun, has a lot of variety, and frankly I loved the atmosphere and attention to detail

compact oxide
#

I refuse to buy historically inaccurate battlefield games so I've never bought one

pastel heath
#

Guess i'm never buying BF5

uneven hollow
#

Tbh the first Japanese elite was promising

open surge
#

army of monikas

fierce radish
#

Yea that whole fiasco was dumb

short pecan
#

@tough lodge god i'd love this, when i went back i was like lemme climb over this wall, lemme vault through this window

tall rampart
#

@half wolf if there is one thing I have to criticize it’s the variant system, but I don’t think WW1 had many weapons

open surge
#

love climbing over high walls in this game

half wolf
#

It didn't, and BF1 did a good job of still managing to have a lot of variety.

short pecan
#

except for the scout class

half wolf
#

didn't like the variant system either, but with very limited attachments, it made sense

open surge
#

@tall rampart it's why most weapons in bf1 were rare or prototypes

pastel heath
#

"“Our commitment as a studio is to do everything we can to create games that are inclusive and diverse. We always set out to push boundaries and deliver unexpected experiences. But above all, our games must be fun!”"

dense bone
#

Imagine still caring about women in bfv

pastel heath
#

Yea, gonna be a NO for me

half wolf
#

Wow they failed miserably on that last count

tall rampart
#

Yeah i get that @open surge

short pecan
#

historical inaccuracy is the smallest problem of bfv right now HAHA

half wolf
#

Imagine giving a shit about historical accuracy in a game that hasn't even pretended to give a damn about that since the mid-2000s

open surge
#

i stopped caring about the woman thing

tough lodge
#

´´´
It's been two days since the reveal of Battlefield V so I wanted to share some thoughts on the reactions so far. It sure seems we created a lot of excitement, and also some questions on a lot of different topics.
´´´

open surge
#

just give me an enjoyable game SippAnimated

dense bone
#

People thinking bf titles have every been historically accurate is a problem

tough lodge
#

fuck MAC

short pecan
#

obviously the marketing was a total disaster

tough lodge
#

i cant type a grave accent

short pecan
#

but still

compact oxide
#

The fact that the game sucks has nothing to do with muh women's

tall rampart
#

@open surge I figured it was a fringe group who cared

half wolf
#

I'm totally fine having women in the game. I'm not fine with cosmetics not looking like real goddamn uniforms, and half-assed updates and nonstop bugs.

uneven hollow
#

That’s understandable

pastel heath
#

I don't really care about women in MP I guess, but having them in the main trailer as a main character in a WW2 game lol what

fierce radish
#

Exactly

short pecan
#

what you dont like your christmas sweater next to the bloodborne costume?

uneven hollow
#

Like why is my solider wearing a bikini

#

That ain’t proper uniform

short pecan
#

and a coat thats literally on fire

icy sluice
#

There is no bikini skin :p

half wolf
#

@pastel heath if they were in legit British uniforms and didn't have facepaint, would you be more okay then?

#

because THAT pissed me off more

prime pine
#

Here's a tip for the solomon islands

#

You are not the lorax

#

If the trees speak they are most definitely of the enemy

open surge
#

hiss americans when the bushes speak japanese

compact oxide
#

Should have added crossover costumes with other EA Games

pastel heath
#

If the fighting was done on british soil that would be fine since i'd imagine british women taking up the fight. @half wolf

icy sluice
#

I'm still gonna get yer tags

pastel heath
#

Non cyborg women that is

prime pine
#

Fuck you!

compact oxide
#

Had a startrooper uniform in BFV

prime pine
#

Manic

tough lodge
#

guys

#

I think

open surge
#

does the prosthetic hook arm woman even exist in the game

icy sluice
#

I am going to connect to a server where I have 200 ping just to take your tags

prime pine
#

Raptor wants to join our servers and steal my tags

open surge
#

or was that just for the trailer

prime pine
#

SEE

tough lodge
#

Hanna delacroix was supposed to be the bionic arm woman

half wolf
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Again, who gives a damn. This isn't a WW2 simulator. It's an arcade game.

dense bone
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This dude a year late complaining about women.

compact oxide
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Had an alternative voice that's from the Sims

icy sluice
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@dense bone Can't hear you, too busy complaining that in game I have a pussy

pastel heath
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Hey one of the VPs of Dice said if you don't like it then don't buy the game so I didn't

half wolf
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Also Imma be real with you chief, bitching about that stuff is not a good look.

dense bone
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This dude literally in the past

pastel heath
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I don't forget

dense bone
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You should

pastel heath
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I think I might download BF4 again

dense bone
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Move on

pastel heath
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64 player metro

dense bone
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It’s sad

half wolf
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Okay? We don't care.

strong parrot
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if I dont like 1 political candidate do i have to contribute to their campaign? HyperWeary

half wolf
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You come here to bitch about shit that happened a year ago, and that frankly never was that big of a deal to begin with.

pastel heath
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The problem was EA not making up their mind. They said it was gonna be historically accurate

tall rampart
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But what about the partisans and people like Pavlichenko

tough lodge
half wolf
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@strong parrot you need to give them all of your money, and your firstborn

pastel heath
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Where do I go to get a face transplant? @tough lodge

half wolf
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I mean I hate that cosmetic because it just looks bad. Not because it's a woman.

tall rampart
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She looks ok

half wolf
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But I guess if she's french resistance it makes sense?

icy sluice
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I want Manon Batiste in this game tho

tall rampart
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That’s what I figured

icy sluice
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She is French Resistance ye

half wolf
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It's kinda cool if she was Resistance, got shot, they had to cut a sleeve off her jacket to operate on her, and then she went back out into the fighting.

pastel heath
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Will battlefield or call of duty ever give us a POV of the German side fighting the allies?

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Now that would be unique

tough lodge
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The last tiger exists

dense bone
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Lol

icy sluice
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Yeah that's the Last Tiger

tough lodge
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and the plane mission from prologue

icy sluice
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Oh yeah that

tall rampart
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BF5 did the last tiger and it’s alright

prime pine
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I would like it if hanna wore her jacket all the way

icy sluice
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Yellow Six was the pilots name iirc

tough lodge
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Yellow Seven should get his own war story

dense bone
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This chat

half wolf
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Not on any large scale. Because the Germans were pretty unambiguously the villains of that war.

tough lodge
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@icy sluice yellow seven

pastel heath
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"The story follows a German Tiger tank crew in the final days of World War II on the Western Front, and how they begin to question the ideology that got them to this point"

icy sluice
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I was close

pastel heath
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I'm not talking about propoganda missions

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I'm talking actual eastern front ww2

open surge
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what propaganda lol

icy sluice
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@pastel heath They were left behind and Berlin is falling down that's why

tall rampart
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@half wolf Battle of Castle Itter would be cool

icy sluice
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It's not propaganda

half wolf
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@pastel heath hold the fuck up, what?

tough lodge
open surge
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||one of the crew members was literally hung by the germans||

icy sluice
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It's soldiers questioning why they're still fighting while their city is burning down

dense bone
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Good luck chat

short pecan
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man i just wish they would stop putting resources into singleplayer

open surge
half wolf
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@tall rampart now that would be cool

queen canopy
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F in chat for Yellow 7

pastel heath
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Ok I should rephrase that

short pecan
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because they most certainly dont put effort into it

strong parrot
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can i play as an axis soldier slaughtering the allies?

open surge
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nah

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fuck them krauts

pastel heath
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I guess I meant eastern front from the german side

tough lodge
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the last chapter should include maps inside germany night

open surge
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it should

tough lodge
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the last tiger last phase

icy sluice