battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

@fickle carbon THANK YOU

Someone who knows

[royal gull]

What time are the patch notes?

[gray saffron]

for the first time trailers are played on pc than consoles it seems 😮

;D

[eager shore]

I actually voted to get rid of memes from the subreddit completely. They just flood the subreddit with useless shit to me.

[solid hinge]

Pc is worse than console

Blame the hackers

[gray saffron]

most of the memes are just about ttk 5.2 globally or how suckysucc devs are. i prefer the dbd memes that are atleast still somewhat relevant to gameplay for most of the time ;D

[solid hinge]

Memes are great on the subreddit

[open surge]

i like walking around a corner and getting melted by someone sitting in the dark with a lewis gun

[solid hinge]

They are great for rising the moral

To fight against the shit we dont want

Don’t forget the tanks in the back

Or pacific planes

Snap aim assist
Ttk
Spotting

Team balance

Anticheat

Snap aim assist is cancer

Type2a

2x 500lb bombs 1 shotting tanks

I hate the doritos on the mini map

Flamethrower worthless

Women

Lmfao

Flamethrower isn’t worthless lol

Tank flamethrower

Ow

Yeah

The normal one is good

[icy sluice]

Sherman and LVT Flamethrower is the same as the Infantry, as I recall kht saying

[solid hinge]

I dont think it is

It just gets hitmarkers

[prime pine]

Ive done well with it

Though

[solid hinge]

Also LVT and the sherman have the same amout of hp now

[open surge]

idk why but

[prime pine]

It needs a bit of a buff

[icy sluice]

https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/177094649473794049/661572557450903605

[open surge]

enemy flamethrowers fucking melt me

and my flamethrowers are a hitmarker bonanza

guess i am extra flammable

[solid hinge]

The only flamethrower i do well with is the kami flamethrower

Maybe cuz the tank is pretty low

Kami in my tummy

[open surge]

kami-sama

wack lookin tank

[solid hinge]

Goddess

[open surge]

chi-ha forever

[prime pine]

Both are good

[solid hinge]

Light tanks r gonna be Stuart and Kami

Im calling it

[prime pine]

Kami for infantry and chi ha for tanks. Its simple.

[open surge]

m3 lee

[solid hinge]

Perhaps

[hot drum]

I would post a meme here buuut i might get thrown out or muted

[solid hinge]

Dms

Pls

Do we get any new vehicles along with solomon islands?

I always wanted naval warfare in the pacific

[prime pine]

Solomon islands arent naval

Its infantry with minor tank intervention

[solid hinge]

Yeah only small shitty boats

[gray saffron]

no new vehicles have been confirmed for the launch of 6.0

but who knows what we're getting later int he chapter

[solid hinge]

I want carrier assault

I want air supperiority

[hot drum]

I just want to see finnish vs soviet armt

Nothin ele

Else

[inner ingot]

Carrier assault would be awesome

[shy badger]

+1 to carrier assault

[solid hinge]

BT-42

[raw orbit]

Naval maps
Infantry only maps

[solid hinge]

@hot drum

[inner ingot]

We need more small ships tho

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge yep, so the pilots can fuck off to there

[prime pine]

Imagine the pacific planes on carrier assault : O

[hot drum]

@raw orbit marita is in the game

[prime pine]

The losing team gets their planes

To fend of the parachuters

[solid hinge]

Zeebrugge remake

[hot drum]

@solid hinge?

[prime pine]

Cause if you're gonna lose you need all you can to turn it around

[raw orbit]

Marita is fun but don't tell anybody

[coarse lotus]

I wonder how burnt skins that are designed just for uk faction can be use also on pacific maps? I see some people in game with those outfits.. but I have paid some uk outfits and cant use them for US faction. Anyone can explain this??

[raw orbit]

Dice

[vague marsh]

at least the Ross was buffed

[prime pine]

Huh?

[vague marsh]

?

[prime pine]

How was it buffed

[vague marsh]

Ross Rifle: From 600 to 750

[icy sluice]

Bullet Velocity

[prime pine]

Notes are out?

GIMME

[vague marsh]

go look

[gloomy kraken]

from where?

[vague marsh]

#game-news

[gloomy kraken]

nothing new for me

now Raptor added it

[solid hinge]

https://twitter.com/battlefield/status/1224331710130610177?s=21

[shy badger]

Wait a second

Is that the m1a1 in her trailer?

[prime pine]

Whew

[open surge]

type 2a gutted?

[gray saffron]

holy shit she's batman

[icy sluice]

Embedding :p
https://twitter.com/battlefield/status/1224331710130610177?s=21

Battlefield V (@Battlefield)

She may be young but she’s determined to win 一番
The new Elite, Misaki Yamashiro, joins your Company at Tier 40 from Feb 6. https://t.co/d0nXlbMtPx

▶ Play video

Twitter

[open surge]

can't wait to see her on narvik

[gray saffron]

also m1a1? she uses a type 100 in that trailer @shy badger

[open surge]

looking forward to solomon islands tbh

[prime pine]

Yeah its a t100

[open surge]

operation outbreak was cool

[coarse lotus]

When the new chapter begins?

[open surge]

and it looks like it

[prime pine]

I feel like they're gonna remove bomber sights from fighters

But

[open surge]

feb 6

[prime pine]

We may as well see what happens

[solid hinge]

so they reduced the number of standard LVTs on wake brakethrough

[icy sluice]

Also now an announcement for her

[open surge]

fucking good lmao

wake breakthrough as japanese side is hell early on

[vague marsh]

AP Mine - Fixed an issue that was causing the AP mine to not do damage to infantry in Firestorm

[solid hinge]

honestly after all the moaning I was expecting a little happiness about it

[open surge]

imagine having 3 tanks roll in on you with your 10 damage faust

[gloomy kraken]

Firestorm has now been fixed

[solid hinge]

EXCUSE ME?

FUCKING EXCUSE ME?

[open surge]

americans swarming the coast so you can't do the sneaky sneak dynamite thing

what the fuck

[solid hinge]

WHY IS THE ROSS FASTER THAN THE KRAG NOW

[open surge]

that sounds massive

[solid hinge]

WHAT IS THIS

[shy badger]

God damn

That velocity buff is huge

[prime pine]

Want to know whats sad

[solid hinge]

my eye is twitching

[gray saffron]

wow

[open surge]

what does the krag have

700?

[prime pine]

I was thinking in my head that Ayla'd be losing her shit

[gray saffron]

i always saw ross more like a lee enfield type gun

[stoic breach]

LOL WTF

[icy sluice]

I like typing these announcements

[prime pine]

Imma main arisaka : D

[open surge]

i already do

[stoic breach]

Straight pulls have better velocity than bolts

Thats actually hilarious

Dice has no idea how to balance weapons

[open surge]

seems like a fucking random buff

never had trouble with the arisaka

[gloomy kraken]

so now arisaka is better than geweher m/95

[open surge]

just use arisaka now

you get it for free

[prime pine]

Honestly i cant be bothered feeding the anger

[icy sluice]

Arisaka doesn't always stripper clip reload like the Gewehr does

[solid hinge]

krag is pointless now unless you're using low drag

my BABY

[icy sluice]

Arisaka has a slower reload still

[prime pine]

Arisaka is eh

With reloads

Its weird

[open surge]

does the k98k have to reload 1 at a time all the time

[stoic breach]

Who cares about reload at 50m+

[solid hinge]

150m/s entire velocity for only TWO bolts??

[vague marsh]

qs and long range machine

very nice

[solid hinge]

What the fuck are they doing

[prime pine]

Loading 2 rounds is faster

[open surge]

lol

[prime pine]

But

G95 on 4-5 rounds is faster

[open surge]

idk who's been crying for ross rifle/arisaka buffs

[solid hinge]

my krag

[sleek trail]

what a fucking joke these patchnotes holy shit

[stoic breach]

This is the pinnacle of battlefield weapon balance

[open surge]

even riot games balances their game better

[stoic breach]

Its so fucking laughable how much of a joke this game is

[solid hinge]

It doesn't even say if they fixed tank armour

[prime pine]

"We waited two months for this" reeee

[solid hinge]

Update sucks

[open surge]

do we have a faust buff

[verbal shell]

shortest patch notes ever

[solid hinge]

We have a disabled tank tracks buff

[prime pine]

Expect a bunch of stealth nerfs and buffs

[open surge]

that's cool i guess

[verbal shell]

and bugs

[prime pine]

E.g fighters possibly losing their bomber sights

[stoic breach]

Patch notes that doesnt include all the buffs

Woo hoo

[oblique pendant]

waiting for the infra red scope in bf V

[solid hinge]

that would be them putting more effort into the game than writing the notes

[open surge]

but i'd like to be able to do more than 11 damage with the designated anti tank launcher

[stoic breach]

What is even the point of stealth buffs

[prime pine]

They're as vague as always

[stoic breach]

Pretty much

[open surge]

to piss people off

[prime pine]

Im tired of complaining

[solid hinge]

[icy sluice]

• An option to modify the strength of snap zoom has been added for players on Console.
  Me, who has it off:

[hot drum]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/ey7jqk/battlefield_v_update_60/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[prime pine]

"Its not for the christmas noobs" - adds stupid bullshit like snap auto aim

[open surge]

is snap zoom the aim assist stuff

[gray saffron]

they removed the spotting changes for people that hated it though 🙂

[open surge]

don't like aim assist in my games

cod annoyed me with it

[stoic breach]

Even though the spotting changes were the best part of the 5.2 update

Good job dice

[open surge]

I'd prefer having none of that and eventually learning to do cool target snapping moves

like the pc guys do

[hot drum]

U can make it smaller in main lobby in options

[vague marsh]

top 5 worst addition to 5.0 spotting

[stoic breach]

Yes making it easier to see people so you can focus on shooting is bad

Of course

[open surge]

YOU ARE SPOTTED

[stoic breach]

That makes sense

[open surge]

I try my best to shoot flares

but it doesn't help when they're in the fucking stratosphere

[vague marsh]

you like shooting Dorito's ?

[solid hinge]

Why tf are people still wanting revert ttk

[shy badger]

The patch notes mentioned 2d spotting, not 3d

Unless i missed it

[icy sluice]

Players: Visibility is bad
DICE: Here's several things to help
Players: STOP

[stoic breach]

Yeah of course I like shooting at highlighted targets

Why would I not enjoy the help

[open surge]

some people want their slower guns (which are like 80% of this game) to be effective up close

[vague marsh]

the laziest solution ever made

[stoic breach]

I dont give a fuck about "skill" or anything like that

I see red icon, I shoot at red icon

[vague marsh]

lol

[stoic breach]

Because it cuts through visual clutter

[solid hinge]

People who want revert ttk:🤡🤡🤡

[open surge]

hey if it's there, it's there

[icy sluice]

There's also the soldier lighting which was also in BF4 but people only see it in BFV apparently

[stoic breach]

Visibility isnt shit in Battlefield 4

Like in Battlefield V

[icy sluice]

The lights really helped in 4

[prime pine]

The ttk before hand was more balanced than what we had now

[stoic breach]

Yeah, BF4 had better static lighting for maps

[solid hinge]

Just open ur eyes if the visibility is bad

[stoic breach]

BFV could benefit from lighting at all

[open surge]

low quality bait

[vague marsh]

people that like the current ttk🤡

[open surge]

try harder, fisherman

[stoic breach]

4head remark "just use your eyes"

Lol

[prime pine]

Honestly.

[open surge]

100 brightness on fjell

[solid hinge]

Jeez

Burning eyes

[prime pine]

Oh no here comes the people

Wooooo

[solid hinge]

Woooo

[stoic breach]

My eyes dont adjust screen lighting constrast or colour contrast

[prime pine]

Contrast needs to be toned down

Its cancer

[stoic breach]

If eyes did that, it wouldnt be so bad

[solid hinge]

Players: I love the realistic graphics in games. Also players: wtf I cant see the enemy in a realistic ww2 shooter

[prime pine]

I love being unable to see outside and have people that can look in with 100% accuracy

[icy sluice]

I never had visibility problems even in beta lol

[oblique pendant]

with a aimbot you dont have problems °°

[prime pine]

I know where to look nowadays but at launch people were abusing it to the max.

[solid hinge]

Can someone explains me the point of the ross and type 99 buff?

[icy sluice]

Also: "I can't see because of the snow on Narvik"
DICE: "Decreases Snow"
Players: WTF THIS LOOKED BETTER

[prime pine]

I dunno

[stoic breach]

Why would players complain about it not looking as good

[prime pine]

But use them now or whatever

[verbal shell]

dice being lazy and patch notes were too short

[stoic breach]

Thats a point of view i cant understand

[verbal shell]

so they buffed 2 random weapons

[solid hinge]

[icy sluice]

The main focus on 6.0 was content like outfits, the map and weapons

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge polska

"WHY ISN"T THE VISIBLITY LIKE IT IS IN BAND OF BROTHERS?" maybe because its a TV show you dumbass

[open surge]

hold on that was it??

[tacit kelp]

Did they add patch notes??

[prime pine]

Yep

[tacit kelp]

Ok thank you

[stoic breach]

Yeah visibility is really something that needs to be as clear as possible in a game

[solid hinge]

So now u can chose bween low rof/low velocity or fast rof/fast velocity

[prime pine]

Im grateful for weapons but you expect more than just weapons

[stoic breach]

Low lighting constrast/high colour contrast is the best

[solid hinge]

SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE TYPING

[vague marsh]

textures were so well done with the photo telemetry that it made players blend into the environment really well with the current cosmetics. work on the cosmetic colours and textures and they will have their fix

[prime pine]

You'd expect quality of life changes, fixes, queue fixes

[icy sluice]

Mostly the main focus of this update

[shy badger]

Oh nvm, I just found it, pretty minimal 😦

and vague

[open surge]

nice, spotted enemies aren't doritos anymore

[vague marsh]

arent triangles anymore*

[prime pine]

Where does it say it blackout

Doritos are literally triangles

[tribal aurora]

[shy badger]

"Increased the range of the AA and AT HMGs to match the coax"

[open surge]

[prime pine]

Whatever that means

[tribal aurora]

@shy badger you are happy now?^^

[stoic breach]

Doesnt help that theres camouflage in this game

[shy badger]

Not really what I expected

[prime pine]

It doesnt mean anything biz

[stoic breach]

Thats what the spotting changes were supposed to fix

[prime pine]

It really doesnt

[stoic breach]

But players hated seeing people I guess

[prime pine]

We're grateful. Its just that its really vague and doesnt tell us much

[solid hinge]

thats the whole point of camo which btw was invented in ww2

I am happy they fixed the type2a , everyone was freaking out about that assignament spelling problem

[stoic breach]

Except this is a game where you need to see people

[solid hinge]

nope

[stoic breach]

If it takes too long to distinguish a target from the ground, and you die

Its not fun

[vague marsh]

use your eyes

[solid hinge]

you need to get gud

And i am glad they forgot to increse the ammo on the selb06

[drowsy cedar]

why doesn’t the lunge mine kill the user

[stoic breach]

Are you kidding

Wow

[drowsy cedar]

that was the whole point of the lunge mine

to kill the user

[prime pine]

I noticed i was shooting at rocks without thinking

[stoic breach]

Yeah idk why I always expect more from Battlefield players

[prime pine]

Selby 1906 needs the ammo increase

[vague marsh]

actually using your eyes to see players instead of the game babysitting players 😱

[prime pine]

Probably'll be stealth buffed

[icy sluice]

If the lunge mine killed the user, no one would use it

[stoic breach]

You know you still have to actually kill people who are spotted

Who knew, right

[solid hinge]

There are at least 20 assignaments w wrong spelling

[prime pine]

The problem is that people are prone to abuse cheese mechanics.

[solid hinge]

They fixed 1

[drowsy cedar]

i mean, killing a tank is worth more than a random player on foot

[prime pine]

Thats the problem

[solid hinge]

NICE

[stoic breach]

The game making it easier to see players isnt the same as the game giving you auto-aim within 15m

[solid hinge]

yeah ala battlefield heros .. thats the real origin of this visibility issue

[vague marsh]

photo telemetry being too well done is the problem

[prime pine]

Why should someone help their team when they can hide in rubble / some random bush and get easy kills

[tribal aurora]

ptfo?

[vague marsh]

need to potato them back

[stoic breach]

Its not "photo telemetry" thats the issue, its that the entire game has the colour pallette of a movie

It looks nice in game videos

And thats it

[verbal shell]

it played nice too

pre 5.2

[prime pine]

Literally a pilot is more useful than some useless rat in the corner

Cause a plane can actually spot and take out tanks

[vague marsh]

was more so hoping a nerf to 5.0 planes

[tacit kelp]

One bomber can win round

[vague marsh]

1 strafe = 1 dead tank

[tacit kelp]

One tanker cannot win round

[tribal aurora]

but a tank can hide in the base

[prime pine]

A tanker can. They can anchor points.

[vague marsh]

1 pilot can if it takes out every tank

[solid hinge]

@vague marsh 5.0 planes got nerfed butnin 5.2 they buffed the bombs to 1 htk tanks

[shy badger]

Yea, tankers can also be very powerful

Especially since 5.2

But planes are the hard counters to them

[vague marsh]

yes! thats the one @solid hinge thanks

[prime pine]

Tanks counter infantry and tanks

Planes counter planes and tanks

[solid hinge]

I dont get what is the point of the ross and type 99 buff

[prime pine]

The pacific planes were always the same. They just gained bomber sights which eased their use and made them significantly more useful.

[solid hinge]

The data has spoken to them or what?

[drowsy cedar]

they buffed the type 99?

wat

[open surge]

friendship ended with krag-jorgensen

[solid hinge]

Yes

[open surge]

type 99 arisaka is now my best friend

[shy badger]

Same here, bye krag 😢

[vague marsh]

they werent that good of a choice over m95 and krag

[drowsy cedar]

it was mediocre before, didn’t need anything

[solid hinge]

Now they type 99 and the ross are by far the best snipers

[rose flicker]

Alright someone sum it up to me. What’d they break and what have they let us down on this time?

[drowsy cedar]

well we have a waifu character for some reason

[open surge]

idk if they broke anything

[stoic breach]

I'm pretty sure it was just a popularity buff

[solid hinge]

There is no point of using anything but those 2

[stoic breach]

Which is stupid

[drowsy cedar]

that’s pretty fuckin weird

[open surge]

just 2 random buffs

[stoic breach]

It was a completely arbitraty buff

[prime pine]

Thought bolties needed a buff though. Thought everyone compained that bolties were underpowered

[tribal aurora]

one bomber can only win a game if the enemy team consists of useless people

[coarse thunder]

Wait what got buffed

[stoic breach]

They're still underpowered

[solid hinge]

They broke the class balance in the only class that was balanced

[tribal aurora]

1 fighter, 1 FF and 1 AA and the bomber stands no chance

[raw orbit]

Lee Enfield iron sights + machined bolt > all

[prime pine]

Bomber lures fighter away

[coarse thunder]

Seriously what happened

[prime pine]

Aa and flieger outta range

Bolties got buffed

Aa got a vague buff

Underwhelming patch

[shy badger]

The muzzle velocity on the ross and t99 are now 750 m/s

[hot drum]

AA and AT range increased

[coral fiber]

Patchnotes was underwhelming

[raw orbit]

Two snipers got like a 20% increase to muzzle velocity lmao why you pretending it's the end of the world

[solid hinge]

@coarse thunder they grabbed 2 fast rof/ slow felocity bolts and gave them the fastest velocity in the the class

[prime pine]

I dunno cappy.

[coral fiber]

Keep in mind

[prime pine]

Im pondering that too

Pilot i feel like bomber sights may be removed

From fighters

[coral fiber]

It's not stationary AA
It's the tank AA

[prime pine]

I dunno

[coral fiber]

Yes they should

[rose flicker]

Got it so, assault is still broken, medic is still broken, and support is still broken.

[prime pine]

Nahh

[coarse thunder]

So k98k and krag?

[raw orbit]

Actual balance patch is coming soon

[solid hinge]

Battlefield 2 & 2142 colour palettes, its a similar "cinematic" experience that DICE has been striving for since 2004, you can really see it in the 2142 screenshot its dark af and you had to be AWARE ..I see no reason why BFV should be singled out

[gloomy pagoda]

So the next chapter releases on feb 6?

[prime pine]

Literally dice could have reverted the patch and changed it again to suit it more. But whatever.

[solid hinge]

@coarse thunderwhy should u use them rn they have slower rof and slower velocity

[prime pine]

Yes

[stoic breach]

That looks terrible

[prime pine]

Update tomorrow

Or today for aussies

[stoic breach]

Awareness shouldnt be hindered by bad visibility

[oblique pendant]

so whats about the type2a?

[gloomy pagoda]

Ok great

[solid hinge]

@rose flicker now scout balance is broken too dont worry

[raw orbit]

20 year old game has 20 year old graphics

Whack

[verbal shell]

honestly i think everyone talking about low visibility is either half blind or only plays devestation

[shy badger]

@coarse thunder The k98 and krag have lower muzzle velocity though they have the option to use low drag rounds

[rose flicker]

@solid hinge yay

[stoic breach]

Needing to be aware isnt the same as being capped by shit you cant see properly

[tribal aurora]

@solid hinge yeah colours aren't the reason for the camper issue atm

[solid hinge]

@oblique pendant they fixed a spelling mistake on a mastery challenge

[shy badger]

So I guess it's a tradeoff, do you want more consistency or faster initial muzzle velocity

[oblique pendant]

bf2 is still on the top 3 battlefield games

@solid hinge rlly

[solid hinge]

Yes

[shy badger]

oh ok

[stoic breach]

900m/s Krag is still shit

Btw

[solid hinge]

its LESS shit

[shy badger]

nvm so it's only a tradeoff until 6.2

[solid hinge]

tfw no 1000m/s krag

[stoic breach]

Still cant bodyshot so whats the point

[prime pine]

Its still better

Than what it originally was

[open surge]

kark98k

[stoic breach]

A 400m/s sniper that can bodyshot is more useful than a 900m/s sniper that cant

So Boys AT still ends up the best bolt overall

For recon

[shy badger]

lol no

[open surge]

boys needs you to prone

[oblique pendant]

if you only headshot ppl i dont care ^^

[solid hinge]

It is not even a bolt

If you are used to this kind of visibility I can see why you are complaining

[prime pine]

The forced play style for the boys force you to play extremely inefficiently

[shy badger]

As long as I'm out of your 1 shot kill range I'll win every fight

[stoic breach]

100m kill range is good enough

[verbal shell]

wait the visibility guy also wants one shot body snipers

[stoic breach]

Why would you bother shooting any further

Its a waste of time

[tribal aurora]

how is the krag shit??

[stoic breach]

No sweetspot

[open surge]

lol

[solid hinge]

Patchnotes are so small lmfao

What is this

[tribal aurora]

it's pretty much my favorite sniper

[shy badger]

I'm used to a more longer ranged fighting I guess, but most of my engagements are in the 100m yea

[stoic breach]

It can be your favourite and still be bad

[open surge]

[shy badger]

Still though, the immobility of AT rifles hurts them a lot

I rarely lose to an AT rifle with a bolty

[stoic breach]

Yeah its a pain

[strange dome]

I dont get the level 40 elite. "She may be young but she’s determined to win" What?

[stoic breach]

I would prefer if it was a gadget still

[coarse thunder]

I just don't like the feel of the krag, but I can get behind the k98k

[stoic breach]

AT Rifle primaries just cut out the ability for it to actually be good AT

[solid hinge]

Everyone will be the japanese elite on the german team

[stoic breach]

Krag is better than Kar98

[solid hinge]

Cant wait

[stoic breach]

Slightly

But still

[open surge]

like i've been repeating

misaki on narvik will be lit

[coarse thunder]

Well yeah, it's a free elite essentially

[strange dome]

its such a bad elite too.

[coarse thunder]

And some people get the entire tow done legitimately in around 2 days so

[solid hinge]

I want the elite with the villar perosa i dont care about that irl anime girl

[open surge]

what constitutes a bad elite

[solid hinge]

Looks bad

Voice sucks

[coarse thunder]

That's subjective though

[strange dome]

so is your comment so stfu?

[stoic breach]

Aight

[open surge]

really don't like the idea of that wacky masked demolition man as an elite lol

[coarse thunder]

Essentially yes

[strange dome]

when some says " that subjective" you just throw the baby out of with the bath water

[tribal aurora]

@stoic breach why should it be shit? Or are you just saying snipers are shit in general?

[strange dome]

shush your gums

[solid hinge]

Snipers are good currently

[stoic breach]

Yeah they are shit

[coarse thunder]

I don't like elites but that's just a personal thing since I don't like solid one piece cosmetics and more money spent on this game is less money I can spend on rice

[stoic breach]

Cant bodyshot so they have terrible DPS for bodyshots

[solid hinge]

On console if u are not hardcamping a selb06 or a zh 29 is still better than every bolt

[stoic breach]

And being OHSK isnt really good either because you still get slower KPM

And it takes more effort than just using a better weapon

[strange dome]

her elite is like hannah is just doesnt make any sense. look at her describe "She may be young but she’s determined to win". What does that ever mean?

[stoic breach]

Even on PC using ZH29 or Selb1906 would be better

[coarse thunder]

Yeah that's a fuckup for sure lmao

[solid hinge]

Im just waiting for hannah defending stalingrad

[stoic breach]

You can get faster kills alot more easily

[solid hinge]

SO IMERSIVE

[stoic breach]

Nothing to do with aim btw

All based on dps

[tribal aurora]

usually when the ttk gets slower sniper and OBT weapons/ classes get stronger

[solid hinge]

Food chain

[tribal aurora]

but yeah the jungle carbine is shitting on every single bolt weapon

[solid hinge]

But at least now bolts will have a better velocity

[stoic breach]

Yeah jungle carbine is a good example of a sniper that doesn't need a sweetspot

[balmy steeple]

I don’t play bf5 anymore but boy do I enjoy reading comment sections when DICE under-delivers on an update again

[solid hinge]

The tromboncino is good too

[stoic breach]

Bolt carbines for recon instead of medic, and being classed as the "skillful" headshot weapons would be great

And then giving sweetspots to bolt actions would make them all balanced

[solid hinge]

Since u can put both mobility and rof increse

[stoic breach]

And then just buffing bolt carbines

[tribal aurora]

lol

[stoic breach]

Cause like imagine sweetspots are in the game

But because you can hit headshots, you just use a bolt carbine

[tribal aurora]

the jungle carbine is op but I'm still saying snipers aren't shit

[stoic breach]

Because they fire faster

[solid hinge]

Here's what I'd say they need to fix:
SMG range fix:Nerf certain ones damage so it is balanced.
Semi-auto rifle fix:Nerf certain damage on some, improve range across board
MMG fix:Buff damage and decrease damage fall off.

[prime pine]

No mention for lmg's ?

[solid hinge]

Lmg's are decently balanced as is

[coarse thunder]

Just the lewis gun lmao "make the lewis gun have an overheat"

[stoic breach]

And buffs like making jungle carbine a 200m headshot instead of 100m, Tromboncino 80m instead of 50m

[hot drum]

@stoic breach selb is so bad

[stoic breach]

Shit like that

[solid hinge]

I don't use them so I can't comment

[open surge]

lewis is the standout

[stoic breach]

Selb is nice wym

[tribal aurora]

Semi-auto rifle are hard to balance

[solid hinge]

Lmgs need a huge range buff or long range dmg buff

[prime pine]

No they're not. They're horrible where they are. I say this as someone who has gotten 35K LMG kills

[tribal aurora]

a 3 BTK is a 3 BTK

[coarse thunder]

Lewis is an ADS mmg essentially

[stoic breach]

Thats not so bad

[prime pine]

Easy. Reduce semi auto RPM

[stoic breach]

Its only strong if other weapons around them are weak

[prime pine]

Revert their damage

[tribal aurora]

yeah they are in very bad spot atm

not saying they are good atm

[solid hinge]

Bf1 had tons of semis and they were all balanced

[prime pine]

They're frustrating to use

[hot drum]

One of the lmg that stands out for me is the fg 42 it is so good to use

[stoic breach]

Yeah, the game needs the 5.0 damage models back as a base, but improved on a somewhat per-weapon basis

[solid hinge]

Fg is quite useless

[prime pine]

Pre nerf fg42 was a threat

[open surge]

roses are red, violets are blue

[solid hinge]

I'd say for LMG's increase damage at range and balance out damage at close

[prime pine]

Fg42 is now useless

[tribal aurora]

bf1 had a suppression mechanic

[open surge]

try and find a game with someone using the fg42

[shy badger]

They'll buff it, surely

[uneven hollow]

I’ve seen a few even myself useing it

[solid hinge]

670rpm accurate gun on a 20 mag instant falloff

[prime pine]

4-7 HK wouldnt even even be bad for the fg42

[solid hinge]

Buff's should come.. in a year or so

[stoic breach]

4-7 would be shit

4-6BTK was perfect

[solid hinge]

^^

[proud flax]

Can we say it here?

[solid hinge]

The ls/26 got killed too

[stoic breach]

4-5BTK would be amazing and daring but 4-6BTK is good

[open surge]

i really don't get the whole change

[solid hinge]

ls/26 was temporarily the best auto in the game in 5.2

[open surge]

reward people for taking the time to burst fire and killing at a distance

[solid hinge]

then 5.2.2 made it... useless

It was for the Christmas newbies

[stoic breach]

That was 5.0

@open surge

[open surge]

I bought BF5 after wake island

[coral fiber]

@solid hinge i have a feeling this patch was rushed

[open surge]

very late

[solid hinge]

Ls26 is just a stg44 w more recoil and less dmg rn

And less bullets

The game was so much better before 5.2

So many changes they couldnt fit them all in and had to wait for 6.2 right

[open surge]

just seems like a massive, yet pointless change

[hot drum]

If i have to choose from the lmg that are in the game is fg because i do not like to camp

[open surge]

just do what modern warfare did...

[quasi aspen]

only Ross rifle and type99 have velocity buff? Not others?🤡 and they buffed to the highest in bolts?

[open surge]

hell, what previous bf games did

and nerf the actually op guns

not the entire fucking lineup

lmao

[solid hinge]

@quasi aspen

[shy badger]

Other bolties are also seeing a velocity buff

[solid hinge]

They are buffing all bolts in next update

[shy badger]

^^^^^ 😄

[solid hinge]

@hot drumbar has a better ttk and a secondary dmg model that make it good at range too

my beautiful krag

[icy sluice]

6.0's main focus was content

[open surge]

is there any idea as to why they're doing that

[quasi aspen]

Many thanks Ayla

[stoic breach]

Yeah MW's weapon balance is great

[solid hinge]

No worries

[open surge]

did they fuck bolt actions in 5.2

[solid hinge]

I'm very pleased with this

[stoic breach]

Its just some weapons are outliers for being worse

[solid hinge]

Bolt actions were untouched in 5.2

Already bad enough to need no nerfs

[open surge]

ah

[solid hinge]

They fucked all weapons except bolts in 5.2 @open surge

[stoic breach]

They fucked bolt actions pre-release by removing sweetspots

[hot drum]

@solid hinge nah i rather use fg42

[open surge]

they were already poor

[solid hinge]

[open surge]

this whole balancing thing they're doing really bothers me

[stoic breach]

After BF1

[rose flicker]

Too bad RSP didn’t get updated

[open surge]

it's either too minimal or way too wide-scale

[stoic breach]

Yeah its terrible

[open surge]

how hard is it to just say

[solid hinge]

That's why many say they should revert it back to the model before 5.2

The sl1907 has better recoil and rof

[stoic breach]

They didnt nerf everything for balance, they nerfed everything because they wanted the TTK to be slower

[open surge]

"hmm, sturmgewehr 44 is looking a little too good, let's make it a bit weaker!"

[stoic breach]

Like Bad Company

[solid hinge]

No one likes it really much however

[hot drum]

@solid hinge i like it

[woeful agate]

i am less than pleased with these patch notes

[stoic breach]

Yeah its terrible because weapons didnt get balance at all

[rose flicker]

Everyone is @woeful agate

[woeful agate]

😔

[stoic breach]

All that was needed was spread changes to stop specific weapons from being too good at range

[solid hinge]

Yeah 5.2 wasnt for actual balancing it was for slowing kill times

[stoic breach]

And that was it

[solid hinge]

dont forget mp34 buff

^^^^

The DATA said we are happy so please be happy

[coral fiber]

Wack

[stoic breach]

MP34 should've just been a 4-6BTK SMG and thats it

Not a 5-7BTK or whatever it is now

[solid hinge]

The mab too

bolts BUFF

Bring back 3-4 btk smgs

[rose flicker]

Now bolts are the best infy rifles around

[stoic breach]

MAB would be fine as a 4-7BTK but with better hipfire than the MP34

[hot drum]

No pls.... @solid hinge

[coral fiber]

Didn't make it in 6.0 @solid hinge 😭

[stoic breach]

MP34 for ranged damage, MAB for ranged control

Thats fine that way

[solid hinge]

MP40 was really good at range too

Mab has too much recoil wout the spec

[woeful agate]

i feel like DICE devs and producers just got tired of Drunkkz shitting on them all the time and just changed the damage model because they wanted to feel good during internal testing

[stoic breach]

MP40 was poo before 5.0

It was really bad

[solid hinge]

I agree

[stoic breach]

It only felt nice because it barely had recoil

[solid hinge]

If u want to be good at range u must stay w 20 bullets

[stoic breach]

But it didnt have the rate of fire or damage for range

It didnt even really have the accuracy either

[haughty pawn]

i was killed by a grease gun yesterday at 100m range

[woeful agate]

thats your own fault dude

[solid hinge]

Yep

[stoic breach]

Unlucky

[woeful agate]

it has a s l o w velocity

[stoic breach]

Rip

[haughty pawn]

i was just,how the fuck ?

[solid hinge]

mp40 sacrificed too much close range power for being weaker than every other 540rpm gun because it was an smg

like you're losing to everything

[haughty pawn]

i was running btw

[stoic breach]

@woeful agate thats probably not unrealistic

[solid hinge]

its accurate at least! but then just use the 40 mag ZK

[stoic breach]

If Drunkkz3 was entirely in charge of weapon balance there would be 0 complaints

[solid hinge]

^^^

Emp is the best slow rof smg rn

[stoic breach]

Except from people with bad reflexes

[solid hinge]

tell that to the GREASE

[stoic breach]

Like all the older devs at DICE

[gloomy kraken]

Ayla have you seen the rest of the sniper velocity changes coming to 6.2?

[solid hinge]

EMP is a comfy gun

I have indeed

[stoic breach]

I forgot about EMP

[solid hinge]

Was very tempted to pin them

[stoic breach]

That one is also really nice

[gloomy kraken]

900 for Kar and Karg

[solid hinge]

Imagine if they added hardcore

The mp 28 is still useless

[stoic breach]

Yuck

Hardcore

That shit sucks so bad

Rip MP28

Used to be really good for hipfire

[solid hinge]

EMP and mp28 were my two favourite smgs before 5.2

hipfire queens

Hardcore is pretty balanced usually in my opinion

[stoic breach]

The really nice hipfire SMGs

I had a thought

If the EMP was a 4-6BTK it would be really nice to have

MP28 as 4-7BTK but it fires faster and has a larger mag

[haughty pawn]

i still main the emp,i refuse to use the 2a anymore,it's just way to easy

[stoic breach]

Yeah this is coming together nicely

2A isnt really better than the Suomi, but it feels easier

Which is really nice I think

[uneven hollow]

Mp28 with the bayonet is spicy

[haughty pawn]

big mag

[solid hinge]

3-4 BTK would be good for mp40 I feel

EMP had the benefit of still being about as accurate as the mp40 before 5.2 and getting both hipfire specs along with barrel bedding and that slight rpm increase

[stoic breach]

Having accessibility weapons in each subcategory of weapons

[drowsy cedar]

why does the type 100 not have a bayonet tbh

[solid hinge]

540rpm 3btk is too fast

I agree

tfw barely any bayonet guns

[stoic breach]

Like Sten/MP40 being slow accessibility, MP28 being medium accessibility, Type 2A being high rpm accessibility

[solid hinge]

please put bayonet on mmgs

[stoic breach]

That just works out really well

[drowsy cedar]

i’ll trade a shitty monopod for a banzai charge

hopefully the new japanese mg gets a bayonet

[solid hinge]

using smg bipod

heh.

And why the japanise dont shout banzaii while using the bayonet

[uneven hollow]

We need some Japanese assaults weapons with bayonets

[stoic breach]

Accessibility SMGs all having the worst damage models of all SMGs wouldnt be so bad either

[drowsy cedar]

if anyone played rising storm i want the banzai mechanic

that shit was dope

[solid hinge]

They need to fix assaults semi-autos first @uneven hollow

The breda

They need to fix the breda

[haughty pawn]

i wonder how long it will take for 6.2 to go live

[stoic breach]

Yeah Breda was great how it was at release, just needed fixed specs

4BTK up to 50m was nice

But if the faster burst speed and reduced burst delay specs were swapped

So you got more accurate ranged bursts but the delay was longer, or you got less accurate bursts with a shorter delay

Also if the Breda's fast burst speed was like 800rpm as well that would be appreciated

[solid hinge]

Too much

[stoic breach]

Or 900rpm

[solid hinge]

No idea why they have the breda specs in reverse

[stoic breach]

It wouldnt be too much

900rpm burst but there was a decent delay between bursts

[solid hinge]

I think 1.028 is balanced

750-800 would be fine

[stoic breach]

So the rpm drops to 600 overall

[solid hinge]

who the hell wants accurate spamfire instead of accurate sick bursties

[stoic breach]

Yea

[solid hinge]

1.028 or 1200

[stoic breach]

Type 2A specs are pretty nicely balanced

[solid hinge]

Anyone else like

Not bad at BF5

[stoic breach]

I really hope they keep it as is and dont nerf it

[drowsy cedar]

i’m mediocre

[solid hinge]

But plays terrible for like an hour before they warm up

like

Look:

[woeful agate]

no im always on it

[solid hinge]

They should buff a little bit the range of the other carabines

[woeful agate]

then i get mad, play better, and fall off of a cliff after 3 hours

[open surge]

i think the issue with the 2a is that, it itself isn't op

[stoic breach]

Actually yeah I would love 900rpm burst Breda

[solid hinge]

Rn 99% of the carabines is just jungle carabine

[royal gull]

Patch looks good so far.

[open surge]

it's that everything else is too nerfed

[stoic breach]

That would be amazing

[royal gull]

6.2 will be the real litmus test

[stoic breach]

It would basically just be an accurate light bolt thompson with a longer reload

[royal gull]

I'm glad that they aren't just reverting it outright

[solid hinge]

If I warm up or (sometimes I can’t rlly control it but I’ll just get home from school or something and be annihilating ppl)

Then I’ll go like 50 and 10

[stoic breach]

And with a decent burst delay

[woeful agate]

you sure

[solid hinge]

but like other times I’ll be like 7 and 18

[odd lion]

So, where to report people?

[solid hinge]

I partially blame the maps tho lol I can’t stand some maps

Err

!!support

[uneven hollow]

The chuchat lmg kinda shoots faster than bf1

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[solid hinge]

hm

[woeful agate]

the map design is underwhelming, thats a good excuse

[solid hinge]

!!report

[uneven hollow]

But I remember there’s no chuchat in mp

[solid hinge]

one of these has to do something

[stoic breach]

Chauchat in BFV shoots slower

[odd lion]

no report...

!report

[stoic breach]

In BF1 it's 399rpm, BFV its 327rpm

[royal gull]

Excited to see how Wake Breakthrough plays now with less tanks

[solid hinge]

Less tanks = less points for pilots

[odd lion]

Oh just a guy random trashtalking and using his hack on a single server... Currently at 67 - 0 kills just storming arrond

arround.

[royal gull]

I won plenty of times as Japan but it would always be at the second to last or third to last points

[haughty pawn]

report it ig

[odd lion]

Oh 85 - 0 now in one minute

xD

Pro player he says

[stoic breach]

Nice

Good gaming chair

[odd lion]

He just runs in battle between 5 players without dying xD

kills 'm instantly

[stoic breach]

@solid hinge how would you feel about 800-900rpm burst Breda

[odd lion]

92 - 0 xD

[stoic breach]

With faster burst spec

[prime pine]

Why less points for pilots

[solid hinge]

There are no hackers

[odd lion]

hahaha

Yeah right

[solid hinge]

He is just a pro

[odd lion]

Shut up mate

😉

92 - 0 on a small map, running arround like a fool and typing at the same time

[solid hinge]

Anyone have songs that help them warm up to not be terrible

Pro player

[odd lion]

Yeah that's what Dice calls 'm

fail

he's currently at 101 - 0

useless anti cheat system

[royal gull]

The Zero and the Corsair are the only planes I maxed out

2x500lb bombs are fun

[solid hinge]

Fun for u

Not for the others

[brave garnet]

I will miss all those tanki's on Wake Island

[royal gull]

Love popping tanks

Especially the rocket tanks

Got one as soon as it spawned before

That was funny

[odd lion]

Dice Breaktrough #11101 join there

see for yourself 😉

[uneven hollow]

Would love to see some Americans and Japanese bomber planes

[solid hinge]

They are collecting data @odd lion

They are too busy

And the data has spoken and said u are happy

[prime pine]

They dont care

[stoic breach]

There are DICE devs who care

Its just that they dont get any say in the matter

[uneven hollow]

Tbh the free elite skin video is kinda oof

She’s more like a ninja

[drowsy cedar]

she looks like waifubait, it’s fucking weird

[uneven hollow]

Tbh she deserves an anime adoption

Anime bfv world x war 2

[stoic breach]

Aight

[uneven hollow]

Indeed terrible idea

They lose all their money on it

[stoic breach]

Probably

[main grove]

Wait

So all the bolts get velocity buffs

They just didn't make it into the notes

Oh finally

900m/s

That's more fucking like it

Now snipers might be more viable now as snipers

I'm still a Lee main though

600 is still kinda sluggish but it makes up with the fire rate

[feral glade]

thats all i need; more viable snipies....my bane...sigh

[main grove]

Bolts were a joke before

[shy badger]

All bolties are getting a buff eventually, but in 6.0 only the ross and t99

[main grove]

So for now just Arisaka and Ross will be used

Since they're now faster than the old fastest bolts

The krag and KAR

Still looking forward to 900m/s Kar

[shy badger]

Yea, but tbf the krag and kark have the low drag rounds

So they can be more consistent

[main grove]

And Krag

Damage isn't increasing but headshot will hopefully be much easier on moving targets

[solid hinge]

^

[red vessel]

Is PC and PS4 crossplay btw?

[main grove]

Lee gets a small increase but at least 600m/s makes it faster than SMGs

Nah

It won't be for this battlefield

Maybe for the next

[tribal aurora]

@red vessel nope

[main grove]

And now Lee can have 50 extra m/s than upgraded Jungle carbine

[solid hinge]

hooray!

[main grove]

Tbh I think regular lee should get that spec as wll

To increase from 600 to 700

If you go down the non machined bolt route

[solid hinge]

you mean you dont want slings and swivels on your sniper rifle?

no sick sprint hipfires for your Lee?

[main grove]

I thought it was to improve sidearm draw speed?

[solid hinge]

Its teeny increase

Like 0.05 seconds

[main grove]

What's the sprint ready increase?

[solid hinge]

Depends on class of gun, on smgs its literally instant I think so you can sprint directly into hipfire

on other guns i think the highest is 0.5 seconds? I'll check

[prime pine]

Inherit values also

Ruby fast draw time

[main grove]

If jungle carbine can faster velocity bullets than regular lee should as well

I wonder what the mid rifles will be like

As in the G95, Ross and arisaka

G95 is gonna be nice

[prime pine]

Jungle carbine will always be better simply due to medics infinite healing and straight pull

[solid hinge]

Default sprint recover on the Lee is 0.93 seconds, it's 0.6 with slings and swivels

A new game update will be released on the 4th of February between 09:00 - 13:00 UTC.

[prime pine]

Thats with machined bolt correct

[main grove]

But for now in the period between 6.0 and 6.2

[solid hinge]

Yes indeedy

[main grove]

Enjoy your elite sniper Ross and Aris

[solid hinge]

Whats the update tommorow

[main grove]

Kar and Krag literally useless in 6.0 onwards

[solid hinge]

For perspective, the EMP has 0.53 seconds sprint out by default and 0.26 with slings

[rose flicker]

@main grove how?

[solid hinge]

whats the update tommorow

[main grove]

Because all bolts are due a velocity increase

But they can only allow 2 bolts to increase in 6.0

[solid hinge]

WHATS THE UPDATE TOMMOROW

[main grove]

For some reason

6.0

[rose flicker]

Yeah so how’s the Kar gonna have trouble?

[solid hinge]

ok

So chapter 6 comes tommorow?

[main grove]

Because Kar98 has 700m/s velocity

[prime pine]

Kar as of 6.0 will be inferior

[main grove]

While two fast agressive bolties

Ross and Ari

[prime pine]

But will be chanted for the better afterwards

[main grove]

Will be 750

[solid hinge]

shotguns have like 0.8 second sprint out

poor shotties

[main grove]

But then in 6.2

Kar and Krag will be a mighty 900m/s

Which is FAST

Actually slightly faster than the fastest BF1 bolts

Which was 880m/s

[jovial scarab]

zoomer bolt action

[prime pine]

Im wondering to grab the all together now bundle

I have a week

[solid hinge]

900m/s is FINALLY a little worth it

[prime pine]

I want bushy boys

[solid hinge]

chad 900m/s vs the virgin 720m/s

[main grove]

What's 720m/s

Zh?

[prime pine]

Ayla

[solid hinge]

the long range weapons are finally fit for long ramge

Yeah ZH

[prime pine]

I need bushy boy

[main grove]

Fuck that gun

[prime pine]

Watchu reckon

[main grove]

Hate it

When others use it

[prime pine]

I used ZH without recoil buffer and 6x scope... That was a fun time.

[main grove]

With it's 6 round detach mags 2-2btk

Bastard ass

[solid hinge]

:No-1:

wtf

[prime pine]

Reeeweee

Haha

[solid hinge]

:No-1:

its EATING the emote

[prime pine]

The hell

I got a week to think it out ...

Bushy boy stg with night owl hanguard

Hand

[devout wolf]

Is the type 2a nerfed yet?

[prime pine]

No

[devout wolf]

[prime pine]

Its no different from the suomi

Just more annoying to deal with

[devout wolf]

It is more powerful than a suomi

[prime pine]

5HK versus 4HK

[devout wolf]

Faster aswell

[prime pine]

Its a very small difference even with rpm considered.

Look at symptic

https://sym.gg/

Do some research

Its got less recoil and is more controllable than the suomi

[lapis hare]

[shy badger]

That's horrible

[prime pine]

Oh no

[lapis hare]

[tribal aurora]

[devout wolf]

Yea that makes a big difference @prime pine

That last bullet matters 👀

Lucky last bukket

[prime pine]

Its annoying to deal with

[devout wolf]

Bulleto

Yep

[lapis hare]

I used the Type 2A too much

I missed using the real good gun

EMP

[devout wolf]

Mp28 and mp35 gud

With headshots

[lapis hare]

Mp28 is decent

Mp34 is good if you use the RoF specialization

[tribal aurora]

mp40 ftw

[rose flicker]

So I decided to give the grease gun a go

It op

[prime pine]

Its ok

It doesnt have much of a placement though

Yeah cool it hits hard

[dense bone]

its contradicting to me

[rose flicker]

Compared to the SMGs we have now