it's clearly easier to break everything than buff the mp34
#battlefield-legacy-titles
stoic breach
Yes lets cut down weapons to suck after 30m when every map is the size of a city
strong parrot
30m...or the distance down a street where youre constantly fighting 
now you do no damage yaaay
solid hinge
after 20m you mean
fathom pebble
I mean I get the point that DICE is trying to do changes, ofc for good of the game etc, but tbh they need to bring back the CTE before releasing patches without consumer feedback
solid hinge
5btk up to 10m 6btk up to 15m 7btk up to 20m
solid hinge
absolutely fucking genius
solid hinge
they don't actually care about feedback at this point
strong parrot
nope because the guys at the top want it pushed this way
solid hinge
there is no way anyone played 5.2 and thought it was good
stoic breach
Yeah, they dont
strong parrot
so thats what happens
solid hinge
it's genuinely not a thing
strong parrot
blame fifa
fathom pebble
Full train with no brakes
solid hinge
someone forced it
fathom pebble
strong parrot
fucking soccer players
stoic breach
They changed the only thing people liked about the game because they didnt realise what people liked about the game
solid hinge
there is absolutely no way 5.2 was because of any design feedback beyond some dude at the top saying "we need new players to stick around longer and buy more elites"
stoic breach
Spread based balance is better overall
cunning magnet
Bf1 anyone? PS4 USA or Europe servers
solid hinge
no other reason to add revive trains and snap auto aim to the game
theres genuinely no reason for either of them
they were never requested
its solely to help new players
strong parrot
aLl GaMes NeEd SNaP ASsIsT
stoic breach
The old TTK helped new players more though
fathom pebble
strong parrot
fuck you JJ...that emote is perfection 
solid hinge
It helped them get more kills but 5.2 helped everyone survive longer at range
By nerfing ttk
cunning magnet
Brb
solid hinge
like it's less they get more kills and it literally takes more bullets to die
stoic breach
Maybe instead of buffing health regen, I will instead nerf weapons at range in a game with large maps
solid hinge
Even the 2 hit kill weapons got rof nerfs
I wouldn't have minded that much about snap aim if they added a level limit to it, like new players will have snap aim up till level 15-20 for example, but I still don't think it was a good idea to add it in the first place
Let the noobs get as close as possible and pray the snap gets kills for them
then they buy elites
t. Higher up at Dice
coarse thunder
Smort
strong parrot
oMg The SnaP DosEnT EvEn MOve It ThAT FaR
coarse thunder
Thank god for r/BattlefieldCosmetics
solid hinge
I've had some fuckin wacky snap going on
open surge
japanese commando girl in a tank top fighting in the mountains of norway fighting next to the wehrmacht against the british
strong parrot
oh course the snap is even inconsistent lul
icy sluice
The Aim Assist isn't good
solid hinge
wouldnt you be sad if you got an elite and couldnt use it anywhere in the game :(
coarse thunder
You'll see that a lot since it's the only elite that can be unlocked
solid hinge
another braddock moment
strong parrot
wait what
open surge
can't wait to see misaki in bombed out rotterdam
icy sluice
It makes CoD's aim assist look like a hack or mod
solid hinge
The snap usually isnt that noticable but ive definitely had some big wtf moments
stoic breach
They shouldnt have added snap aim, they shouldve added a threshold for slowdown scaling
solid hinge
Like me panic ADSing on someone who jumped me and it going straight to their head for two hits
theres no way I did that
icy sluice
Yeah, I turned it off
solid hinge
i also dislike snap aim since it doesn't let me aim for the head when playing recon or using carbines in the medic class, or even using the assault sars
icy sluice
I actually turned it off since the release 
solid hinge
also after they added snap I got headshotted by revolvers 4 times in one match when I'd been headshotted by revolvers probably 4 times ever up to that point
so that was big suspicious
coarse thunder
It's an absolute win
stoic breach
Did it even achieve anything though
solid hinge
it made people decide to stop buying elites
anyone who buys an elite after 5.2 is no longer a person
icy sluice
Apparently Microtransaction profits are higher
But that was a year report
So it doesn't really matter
solid hinge
good god
fathom pebble
welcome to capitalism
icy sluice
Okay, yeah I went back to the post, it was "around $1B"
fathom pebble
fathom pebble
even cod BO4 made 1B$ alone
icy sluice
LoL probably still gets more money than Battlefield (MTX, not counting base game prices)
fathom pebble
because of mtx
icy sluice
CoD BO4 had such predatorial MTX
fathom pebble
people bought that stuff
icy sluice
I am surprised they didn't have something like "Turn off the game for $1"
open surge
did it have supply drop stuff
icy sluice
Yes
fathom pebble
open surge
kinda why I like mw
icy sluice
Guns in Loot Boxes, greeeat
fathom pebble
idk I dont really judge people for what they buy
I mean yeh the bo4 system was not pleasant but people bought and opened cases
icy sluice
I don't judge people, but I judge... ya know, the system depending on how it was
$1 for a different red dot
fathom pebble
but the thing is that red dot doesnt change or affect the gameplay
so you dont really have to buy it
its optional
weapons locked behind mtx or in cases yes thats trash
fathom pebble
worse is that if said weapons are OP
open surge
icy sluice
It is funny that people do rage on the Chapter Rewards MTX but don't rage on DLC weapons on previous Battlefields
open surge
whole weapons shouldn't be in such a thing
coarse thunder
Idc for mtx that doesn't change gameplay
strong parrot
i thought dlc premium was best way to go 
open surge
what am I talking about
fathom pebble
tbh dont mind the BFV system
stuff is still free
that is important for the gameplay
strong parrot
also its worse because you knew dlc premium came with maps and guns
open surge
people were more mad about the shortcuts
solid hinge
@icy sluice I like the live service of bfv more tbh, but not if that means that the game is in the state it is now because of it
open surge
paying to unlock everything from level 1
fathom pebble
lol
strong parrot
bfv just switched over to buyable weapons with money in a pay2win system
icy sluice
Pretty much
fathom pebble
you play and unlock stuff
fathom pebble
or idk you maybe dont have time to play much BFV because you work have family etc and pay to unlock the stuff
coarse thunder
Bf5 weapons? P2w? What?
icy sluice
I know Fortnite allows you to buy tiers
fathom pebble
I mean its better the battlepass then cases
dense bone
That’s assuming the weapons behind the levels is actually op.
fathom pebble
but people even for free content they still bitch about it
strong parrot
the new weapons in chapter 6 will be all buyable day 1 because you can buy tiers with boins
dense bone
Doesn’t mean the weapons are good
strong parrot
so jokingly guns are now p2w, because has a new gun released in ToW ever been broken?
dense bone
Jungle Carbine?
coarse thunder
Keep spending money on this product, will you 
dense bone
Like bing us said
strong parrot
lul fuck no i wont
coral fiber
dense bone
You don’t have to buy them. You can just earn them.
I imagine they come to cc after a while
strong parrot
20 rounds to kill 1 guy
strong parrot
looks like that snap aim got you a headshot while side strafing 
dense bone
Snap aim goes to center mass
amber notch
Lol
strong parrot
carbine was 10...pistol was 20? and revolver was 30
coral fiber
Nvm
The clip didn't get the part i wanted
Reeee
icy sluice
lol
strong parrot
it got the part where you were sliding around like you were a penguin on ice
love that moronic feature in this game
icy sluice
I'm tempted to turn my Xbox One on to upload the Katana clip I recorded earlier
Looks back at Apex, CoD and BF1
Probably missing more games that include that
lol, I went back to YouTube to see BF1 sliding to see someone miss a dead-on shot with the Vetterli Carbine because spread
strong parrot
because other games have sliding..it makes it good?
strong parrot
yup useful to ignore gravity
icy sluice
At the start of matches, there's sometimes a person sprinting and sliding, they always get left behind by the people just regularly sprinting
queen canopy
Am G-2 now
icy sluice
Nice, I think?
queen canopy
thank
strong parrot
slide going up slopes! makes total sense 
warm atlas
icy sluice
It helps to catch someone off guard doing that.
strong parrot
because someone can totally be full sprinting then act like theyre going to transition into a slide to home base, baseball move, and at the end pop back on on their feet to keep running and shoot you
icy sluice
iirc BF1 didn't allow you to fire while sliding
strong parrot
totally makes sense in a video game 10/10
icy sluice
Yeah it's a video game
solid hinge
I often slide alot mostly cuz it helps me avoid enemy gunfire, especially on breakthrough when I'm retreating on the defending team for example
strong parrot
sliding=goty
icy sluice
Sliding is just a helpful mechanic
strong parrot
best mechanic ever makes total sense 
icy sluice
Yep
icy sluice
Nah, it makes sense
Video games always have some... thing in them
Like 20 headshots to kill someone without a helmet
200 slashes to give someone a paper cut
Needing to wait your turn to even do anything
Video games
I see kht120 praising le zouzou
strong parrot
sliding should just make you full on stop moving at the end then it would be ok
because then you could get punished for looking like an idiot
coarse thunder
Zouzou?
icy sluice
You jump, ads in mid air and crouch when you land to do... something
solid hinge
The sliding in bfv is annoying because the animation is fucky
icy sluice
strong parrot
so? it video game
solid hinge
when someone turns while sliding they just.. move
crystal thunder
When is the Soloman islands going to be released?
solid hinge
I can't hit them they're like greased lightning
icy sluice
6th
crystal thunder
k
strong parrot
that video is pure cancer...makes me want to keep bf4 uninstalled forever
oMg LooK At THat AiM GoD SnAPPiNG TO heaDs
😳 i hope he notices me in his comments
solid hinge
oh no
half wolf
There were 2 guys on the other team abusing that, and literally were unkillable
half wolf
Honestly I'm fucking tired of all the cheaters and glitchers
strong parrot
its not abuse...its video game mechanic
prime pine
Its cannon does 45 to a fucking mosquito
Better yet. It does nothing to fighters but INJURES the pilot
amber notch
half wolf
@strong parrot it's abusing a glitch
prime pine
"Its all fine guys we'll fix it" 
solid hinge
Did they forget to add the fucking damage numbers
amber notch
Daddy
coarse thunder
I forgot this place doesn't have the fortnite default dance emote
half wolf
DICE has shown that they are literally and totally fucking incompetent
If you take notice of EA's language when they talk about earnings and stuff, it's interesting to see what they omit.
BF5 is a complete failure of a game
coral fiber
Ok
half wolf
oh I mean as a commercial failure @coral fiber
The game is not good, but it's far from the worst game I've played
torn frigate
I keep getting Battlefield 2 suggestions from youtube, Is youtube trying to send a message?
half wolf
Nah
half wolf
On a tangentially related topic, what is the worst game you have ever played?
solid hinge
points at the channel
half wolf
What is the worst game you have ever played that is not Battlefield 5? Does that count as somewhat BF5-related? 😛
coarse thunder
Can't recall any recent ones atm, haven't played much games in the last decade
And I don't go out of my way to get objectively shit games
icy sluice
@half wolf of the last 5 years CoD MW, of all time... uhh that'll take some digging through my memories
Probably Sonic 06 or Assassin's Creed Odyssey... I could bring up Breakpoint in there.
idk, my mind tries it's best to eliminate shit games.
half wolf
BF5 is bad, but I gotta say the worst game I have ever played is without a doubt Battlefield 2: Modern Combat.
the console port.
icy sluice
It was it's first time it dipped into consoles so, I can understand it... I haven't played it so I don't really have an actual opinion on it
Medal of Honor was also pretty shit on consoles, good set-pieces and story to back it up tho
If I can play the Console Exclusive Medal of Honors with perfect mouse support, my figurative pants would be figuratively sopping wet
half wolf
Honestly it was fairly inventive as a game, it was just unpolished, clunky, and just... idk
half wolf
BF5 fits into the same category of games as Ghost Recon Wildlands. Kinda fun at times, but clearly a ripoff, unpolished, and buggy
it's a bad game, but not the worst I've played
is it the worst game relative to how it should've been? yes
icy sluice
Also Rising Sun may or may not have contributed to my love for the Pacific Theatre
https://youtu.be/99IpE98L30g
I wonder how Rising Sun's soundtrack would've been if it had the original legend Michael Giacchino
I don't say "Legend" to anyone of course
Anyways, that's my Medal of Honor Tangent... coming to an end
half wolf
Fun fact: DICE broke the M1928 damage model (even with the 5.2 update) and has yet to fix it
They said its unintentional that it goes to 11btk but havent fixed the issue
half wolf
Apparently they may not be able to?
strong parrot
apparently it doesnt matter
half wolf
Just like anticheat
Or team balancing
Or not breaking the game with every patch
I have seen more cheaters in BF5 than I have in any other game I have ever played combined
And their anticheat does not work, and I have conclusive proof of that.
tribal cairn
Man, I just watched We were Soldiers again, bloody hell it makes me want a Vietnam Battlefield
But only if they do it right
That's the only condition
half wolf
They won't
icy sluice
The Pacific has been done pretty well
tribal cairn
Indeed it has
If they can do the Pacific right,
There is the possibility they could do Vietnam right
But that's only a possibility
Since Vietnam was so diverse
icy sluice
I find it weird that people are angry that black people are playable in BFV
There were black troops, and if Vietnam happens, Black soldiers are definitely a possibility
But then people will get mad, I am sure
tribal cairn
To be fair, it's the whole segregation thing during those days that gives people that misconception
icy sluice
Yeah, there was segregation but the military still had 'colored soldiers'
tribal cairn
They didn't have to like them,
But they still served
Like the red tails
Tuskegee Airmen
icy sluice
👍
half wolf
I'm frustrated that DICE ignored more opportunites for actual diversity in the UK and US factions.
Especially for the fucking Americans.
tribal cairn
You mean, race wise?
half wolf
Yeah
tribal cairn
I'd suppose that makes sense,
icy sluice
I think the modeling team is focusing as much as they can on clothing rather than soldiers. I imagine modeling faces is harder than modeling clothes.
half wolf
I don't care if they have female characters, it's a friggin game. But DICE made such a stink about diversity and "everyone's battlefield" and they missed an opportunity to showcase that and make a nod to some really unique contributors to the war.
Yeah. Also new faces don't make them money.
icy sluice
UK has a lot of faces still
tribal cairn
Maybe they could make a Navajo or something, probably a radio operator uniform to go with it,
But eh
I do wish that Japanese and Americans had Mastery Uniform options,
Oh well
icy sluice
I keep forgetting how many faces UK has
tribal cairn
Bloody hell
icy sluice
They have more faces than CoD AW and CoD WWII has combined I believe
tribal cairn
Though if you notice, some of them are just re-hashed
Germans and UK have the same faces
half wolf
^^^
tribal cairn
That is true
proud cedar
Not necessarily lazy, just might not be high on their priority list realistically
icy sluice
Christian and Adam are the only two faces that can probably be believably rehashed
tribal cairn
I'm sure they will release more uniforms once they hit 1944
icy sluice
Sorry, I can't see Stanley and George as American
Henry, Jacob, Zoe and Leo could pass too maybe
tribal cairn
Probably yeah
I'm not sure about any Asian characters for the Americans, being completely honest
With the whole internment camps thing,
Large suspicion of Japanese Americans back in the states
I'm sure there were some Asian soldiers on the American side,
But it's just itching in the back of my mind
half wolf
The most decorated US Army unit in history was Asian-American.
tribal cairn
Well I didn't know that, now did I?
half wolf
Specifically a Japanese-American unit that fougth in Europe.
Everyone learns something new every day! Nothing to be faulted for.
icy sluice
Wouldn't surprise me if they add more faces
proud cedar
Would always be nice to have more variety than like 6 faces for Japan and the US
icy sluice
tbh, I did think Misaki was going to be a new face, but a free elite is also a good sign of... something
I don't know what it's a sign of, but it's... something
sterile current
I’m just hoping MMG’s are given a buff of some sort next patch
tribal cairn
Maybe EA will finally start loosening up on microtransactions
dense bone
?
sterile current
The suggestion thread has me..worried
dense bone
bfv doesnt have dlc...
icy sluice
MMGs imo do need a buff but just in terms of damage
dense bone
sounds like a direct loosening of mtx
icy sluice
Chapter 5 and 6 are like one big Battlefield Free DLC
There's actually a lot of content for these two chapters combined
dense bone
if youre talking cosmetics that is easily the best case scenario for mtx...
icy sluice
I am okay with cosmetic mtx
icy sluice
Just don't give me lootboxes and shit, okay?
tribal cairn
But yeah I was talking cosmetics
dense bone
mtx is basically anything you buy after you bought the game
tribal cairn
Skateboard? No idea why some soldier'd be carrying that around
proud cedar
Handy skateboard for CQC
icy sluice
I wasn't just including Battlefield in the mix
proud cedar
Never know when it's going to be useful
dense bone
bfvs live service as an idea is basically perfect
icy sluice
I dunno if a sports game like Tony Hawk, or whatever has MTX in them
dense bone
they just fucked up along the way
icy sluice
EA is totally committing to Live Service in the future
Their words, not mine
Well, the CFO's words
tribal cairn
Well, only the future will tell
dense bone
gaming for a consumer right now is honestly in such a good place
we have been paying 60 bucks for decades
icy sluice
We're moving away from $120 for everything in the game which I love
dense bone
even though cost of making/marketing games has obviously gone up
icy sluice
Ubisoft sadly doesn't seem to get it
proud cedar
Nor do Blizzard apparently
dense bone
in 2000 60 bucks accounting for inflation is worth roughly 90 bucks now
tribal cairn
Bloody hell
dense bone
companies have to offset JUST that factor
thats not including the cost of labor and time/manpower these games take anymore
icy sluice
@tribal cairn That's like not even 10% of it btw
Games nowadays have so much work behind them and I am surprised people are being surprised that developers are cutting corners
dense bone
games/devs basically live off shipping a ton of copies
tribal cairn
Y'know, I've always taken video game programming lightly, but jesus Christ these guys are basically walking flesh bags of coffee and meds
dense bone
thankfully theres been a market for that, but i think when people blame ea for devs closing down was just those studios getting weeded out and not being able to cut it anymore
icy sluice
When I came into that realization, my dreams just went to (What do I do now?)
tribal cairn
Yeah I've always wanted to program video games,
icy sluice
I am just working a regular job now so don't worry about me
tribal cairn
But seeing all the work it takes firsthand,
dense bone
honestly, most of the studios/games i hear that closed and EA got blamed for them i didnt know who the devs were or ever hear of the games either
icy sluice
It's really funny seeing people blame EA for Anthem when that was all Bioware
dense bone
^
icy sluice
By the way, you can't blame a publisher for literally 100% of a story-line
dense bone
same with mass effect, the devs themselves said EA was hands off and they tried too much and messed i tup
people are generally simple minded and will take just about everything at face value though
icy sluice
There's a reason why there's quite a bit of Indie Devs going under EA's wing
dense bone
i mean ffs, idk how many times i see in this chat saying "bf/dice have been getting worse under EA"
bf/dice has been under ea for what? 95% of their existence?
tribal cairn
I just wish that EA was back in it's Glory days time to time
But oh well
Can't go back to the past, least not on short notice
dense bone
imo, ea just pushes out money, i really doubt they are puppeteers like everyone makes them out
im not saying they are saints before anyone jumps that conclusion
tribal cairn
No one's a saint
icy sluice
I will say that Activision is shit :p
tribal cairn
Now.
Back then,
Saying that would get you shot
But now,
Probably is acceptable to say
icy sluice
I've been gaming for a long time, I say controversial shit because of it
icy sluice
I've been here since... this was a thing on like 5/10 games you'd play on PS1 https://youtu.be/kBLRqZ6U8Eg
tribal cairn
I've owned pretty much every PS Console
open surge
on mobile but
tribal cairn
I can't even remember much about my PS1
open surge
is that the challenge everything intro
icy sluice
No, the one before that
icy sluice
This one is just "Electronic Arts"
tribal cairn
God, I can't remember my first EA Game..
Did they help in Battlefront 2?
I can't remember much
tribal cairn
Oh!
icy sluice
Not Underground, that was the sequel I believe
tribal cairn
Yeah!
I played the absolute shit out of the medal of honors
Rising Sun was awesome
As was European Assault I believe was the name
tribal cairn
Good night then
quartz jungle
nice
shut brook
I've fallen off hard core for like, half a year, hows it been?
feral glade
to be honest i think mohaa was the best MoH game. the d-day assault was so brrutal for PC they nerfed it down for the consols
and multi was smooth
best death match ever 32 not team death match just all out death match
32 players wooping it out on a small map
topaz atlas
rose pilot
final nova
what should I upgrade hipfire or control or accuracy
gray glade
we'll get a single tank customization item that costs 2000 boins
i am 100% sure it will not be for CC
novel blaze
BF 2021 better be modern
ionic ether
I’m getting really high ping today for some reason, any suggestions for fixing it? 🤔
novel blaze
people that want vietnam 🧠 :no:
ionic ether
On Xbox
solid hinge
The next Battlefield title will be modern.
Allowing Dice to have more freedom with their game.
stoic breach
Good game coming soon
solid hinge
reddit probably already has condemned it
BF6 is SJW trash
etc
Of course Dice will put women into the game.
It will be more accurate though since today women can fight in the army like the Marines.
I miss BF4 admins but don't at the same time.
They were so funny to make fun of but when it came to serious matters they would annoy the living Christ out of you.
its good having a human in charge of the server because cheating and spawn rape etc but at the same time its not helpful that a lot of them are narcissistically living out their power tripping dreams and take all the fun out of it or are stupid
Regular admins.
sonic rampart
camping Ban, shotguns Ban, Mmg Ban 
open surge
NO STINGER/IGLA
prime pine
I'd just ban mmg's, amrs and ap mines
solid hinge
just ban medics
prime pine
Nah
solid hinge
Ban planes in Breakthrough
tough lodge
i think i met a unbanned hacker
tough lodge
his last match was Nov 30, 2019
i looked up his bf tracker
then i met him today his first match
solid hinge
Welcome to battlefield
stoic breach
UWU JIMA
solid hinge
prime pine
My friends are having a scrim right now... Its kinda stressfull but exciting to watch
Its already finished nvm haha
onyx cave
the fucking community on fucking pacific storm is horrendous
the japanese do more fucking attacking than the us
the us are sat on a fucking island on the spawn 24/7
THE DONT FUCKING MOVE
ember plinth
Sup
shy badger
Hey
solid hinge
Helo bois
gray glade
Hello
tough lodge
ember plinth
Heard you can get phantom dog tag in bf1 by melee killing the enemy who wears it. Is it true?
solid hinge
A medic just took my weapon before he revived me, i got his Type 2. Thats the biggest noob gun i ever saw in my whole life
:yikes-1:
raw orbit
ember plinth
Caporetto terrain isn't really great for horses
solid hinge
What r some good upgrades for the LVT?
prime pine
Depends
Its not a very good tank on tank... Tank. Its mostly for infantry.
People opt for the AA guns
As they shred infy
haughty pawn
prime pine
The role of a plane is to take on vehicle
Look its major bullshit but what other use are planes then if they cant take on tanks
tough lodge
But they shouldnt be able to one hit a 100hp tank
prime pine
You need 100% accuracy (With the pacific fighters)
solid hinge
doesnt it have to be a direcy hit for a 1 hit kill on a tank
prime pine
2x 500's or a direct 1000 KG is needed
What use is a pilot if they cant help their team alleviate the problem with armour?
They deal with other planes and tanks and safeguard their own team against them.
They also support infantry with flares
You cannot however - Capture objectives.
So your role IS support.
prime pine
If Azuras words are true
gray glade
we'll get bazooka soon
prime pine
AT should be ok next patch
gray glade
now all we need a plane nerf
prime pine
How would you nerf planes
quasi aspen
+3 vehicle hit
gray glade
reduce the damage done, or reduce accuracy on the bombs
quasi aspen
increase mmg damage against plane
prime pine
I would actually make the LVT AA better
gray glade
mmg damage against planes used to be real good
prime pine
Increase the muzzle velocity and overheat of the LVT AA
prime pine
Its very difficult to win versus smart pilots
gray glade
yes
prime pine
Nerfing shit to the ground to make things better is poor balance
gray glade
but how would you balance it`?
prime pine
Same way they did with the fire bombs
prime pine
Make it so that they cant be release as quickly
gray glade
like a delay?
gray glade
haven't noticed, i still get burned alive as easy lol
quasi aspen
make sniper able to hit pacific plane pitcock
gray glade
i think the good pilots adapt to the delay
prime pine
Remember when bombers got changed khorney?
gray glade
so they can time the release anyways
prime pine
When bomb payloads got tweaked so larger payloads have longer delays between bombs it kinda....
Made vehicle bombing possible but harder. I hate the change but thats one way they could do it
hoary condor
bayonet is buggy af
gray glade
whatever they do I feel pilots will object
prime pine
Im maining planes more and more cause of points.... Honestly as bullshit as they are. I feel they're in an ok place right now
The only thing i would do is cut flares off from fire bombs
Fire bombs makes you some useless fucker
solid hinge
Hown do i unlock union jack
orchid shore
i wanna get the 990 boins all together now but i don't also want to pay up boins 
shy badger
I really don't think planes are in a good place rn
Or at least, their counters aren't
The fliegerfaust is fine, but besides that it's way too easy for a plane to kill an AA gun that is shooting directly at it
hoary condor
yeah mechs aren't too great for flying
they are usable
yeah this team i'm with are shit
camping with LMGs
tanks, welcome to tank too
open surge
panzer 38t is cute
solid hinge
The Sturmtiger is also cute
solid hinge
Ök
solid hinge
-BEL-canard2guer add my playeur pc bf1
stoic breach
open surge
the fuck are these skin sets in the all together now collection
shy badger
I dunno if the flieger should be easier, it's pretty easy as it is rn
Get 2 players on one plane and he should be down in one run
solid hinge
It's not that the fliegerfaust is bad so much as no one wants to use it
it only gets taken out of frustration after some plane kills you like 5 times
solid hinge
Boost the effectiveness vs ground targets
give it enough splash to have an effect on infantry
let two volleys destroy a sandbag wall
make it do like 3 damage to tanks
people will pick it if it isn't literally useless against anything but planes
open surge
why did 5 m1 garand shots only do 80 dmg
ebon yoke
Есть русские?
prime pine
Ayla! My friend. How are you.
Garand shouldnt be a 5HK
Garand 360 - 3-4HK really was fine
open surge
lol
fucking mosquitoes fucked us up on the third sector
zeroes
but they acted like mozzies
we had absolutely nothing that could destroy them, so they just bombed all our tanks
solid hinge
That what I mean!
No one wants to take fliegerfaust cause it makes your gadget slot effectively useless
But it needs to be done to prevent basic pilot strafing
nova seal
I remember seeing the Flieger getting added
prime pine
It was always a problem ayla
In other battlefields
Just that if you make an aa gadget more powerful its gonna make it a popular choice
solid hinge
Yeah
Just basic effectiveness against ground would be something
Its literally useless at the moment
open surge
fuck people who use the zh 29
solid hinge
The ZH is insane right now
prime pine
It was good before hand
solid hinge
If you're beyond like 30 metres almost every gun in the game loses to it
prime pine
Jungle carbine can compete
solid hinge
At least people could attempt to shoot back before
solid hinge
Yeah
prime pine
You could fight back
Now its
Ohhhh you should use your weapon in your intended range
solid hinge
whoops I have a short range gun better literally give up
solid hinge
tfw your guns range is 0 to 20m and the ZH range is 20 to 2000m
prime pine
Yeah guys peak weapon balance
Im starting to get burned out now
Of the game
When a Type 100 has better BTK than an Fg42
solid hinge
You are rank 300
pastel pulsar
Guys, i'm epxeriencing massive lag and connectivity issues in bf4 the recent two weeks. Is that a common problem at the moment?
[Ps4]
lofty swallow
Probably the servers you're in
open surge
wow i really like the mp34
lofty swallow
I know when I played BF4 when I had EA Access I was always getting servers in like Singapore or in Brazil or some crazy dhit like that
pastel pulsar
I doubt that to be my problem, my servers are in europe and NA. It also shows me in the server list green ping to all of them.
lost pike
Anyway I can not be put with a random ass squad before getting into a match
gray saffron
trench
shy badger
Wake island? 😄
open surge
pacific storm
solid hinge
Trench
open surge
why is there a guy randomly on the ground on his own
lol
nice hitbox
slid right past sherman
but still roadkill
solid hinge
Just realized how useless these turrets in the mountains on iwo jima are
lofty swallow
The ones that aim at the American ships?
They'd be great to use in Breakthrough, or at least spawn by them in Conquest instead of having to run for 10 minutes and having everyone be on ground
open surge
ok i'll stop wasting the planes
best squad screen doesn't even show what team people are on anymore lol
gloomy kraken
It would be cooler if the best squad screen would be changed to have best squads from both team facing each others in a V shape.
open surge
well that was a stomp
oh that's why, it was 22 players vs 16
back to the classics, fjell!
am i the only person who ahs trouble flying on that map
solid hinge
Is it possible to change the kill skull color? I allready choose the red color on the "kill color" option, but that only works on the hitmarker kill, is this a bug? i just want to have the red color on both, skull and hitmarker kill. It works for the headshot skull, but not for the kill skull. the kill skull is white and i want to change it to red.
gloomy kraken
Headshot skull Atleast should follow
solid hinge
i allredy search on google but i didnt find a sulotion
open surge
nice 2a
prime pine
Its under gameplay
solid hinge
and i have never seen someone with a diiferent kill skull color, they all have white
i allready put the color i want but it doesnt work
most likely its a bug
solid hinge
i hope they fix it. cuz i cant cahnge it. it only works on the headshot skull
change*
open surge
is ribeyrolles really 5 hit kill from close
sleek trail
no reason to use the rib
prime pine
Nor the stg1-5
open surge
fucking gang of type 2a users
and we somehow lost as soon as I decided to use a spitfire
lol
foggy mango
so we are not able to buy revolver?
solid hinge
Not on sale yet
foggy mango
btw update 6.0 soon?
solid hinge
The rib is 540rpm 5btk up close
The type 2a is 1028rpm 5btk or even 1200rpm 5btk
foggy mango
so excited for solomon isles
icy sluice
@foggy mango Chapter 6 starts on the 6th.
6.0 is Tuesday iirc
Monday we get patch notes
glad knot
solid hinge
Tonight, that's all gonna change. Over the past month I've been learning how to pick the lock on these police grade handcuffs. Why you ask? Because tonight I'm gonna take a bigger risk than anyone has ever taken on television before. In just a few moments I'm going to be handcuffed to this solid steel frame, and I'll have exactly 90 seconds to free myself before the claw on this robotic arm undoes my pants, exposing me to an audience of children. If that happens, an LAPD officer is standing by to arrest me for indecent exposure. We've all seen escape artists risk death before. But tonight, I'm gonna risk something even worse. Becoming a registered sex offender.
prime pine
azure ruin
And the recoil is a bit iffy as well
open surge
and you can even get light bolt to blow through the 20 rounds even easier
coral fiber
@prime pine debating whether i should post it in the subreddit...
azure ruin
I know I’m trying to get the mint set for every smg and I’m on mp34 now
prime pine
Ill fucking do it
prime pine
Hmm
solid hinge
Or at least similar
prime pine
Wouldnt wanna risk "stealing" it kek
solid hinge
Kek or cringe
prime pine
No offence to the subreddit. But considering how volatile it is it wouldnt be the best to look like a thief
Ill fuckin do it. Fuck it.
solid hinge
🇷🇸
coral fiber
DO IT BRAVE ONE
prime pine
reddit fucking crashed for some reason
stoic breach
MP34 is pretty good
Still has the least shittest SMG damage dropoff
Wait wtf
Its now a 5-8BTK
prime pine
I got some shitty layout
fickle carbon
Wtf, I come back to the game and now I'm always at 500+ ping. Are the servers just dying or is it just me?
stoic breach
prime pine
The same idiots who thought a 13HK weapon was fair
stoic breach
de_fairandbalanced
open surge
everything feels like it's 5 btk up close
prime pine
"Less players are complaining that they're getting killed across the map"
... - Its your fucking fault for being in the open you fucking idiot
open surge
lets nerf ranged damage in a game franchise that boasts about having giant maps
prime pine
Oh yeha i must ask
shy badger
@fickle carbon Try advanced search
prime pine
Khoshi
open surge
gonna try and max the mp34
prime pine
How many servers are up on peak hour?
prime pine
Err...
open surge
finish at 9pm lol
stoic breach
Oh my god are you fucking kidding me
open surge
get home at 10
prime pine
JESUS
stoic breach
MAB has the same damage model as the MP34
shy badger
They're both 'long range' smg
open surge
I think the most I've seen has been about 14
prime pine
sub machine guns arent meant for longer ranged
stoic breach
LONG RANGE
open surge
but about half of them were below half full
stoic breach
Who actually designed this game
prime pine
How many servers do you see up when you get home
shy badger
Is it really?
stoic breach
What is this game
prime pine
Cause here we get 8-7 on xbox one
prime pine
Used to be 12-15 haha...
stoic breach
Yeah it is
open surge
i'll take a better look in the day
stoic breach
stoic breach
not comparable to either specs
prime pine
Dude even though they werent popular. They were at the least usable
stoic breach
Actually
shy badger
The mp34 has faster muzzle velocity
stoic breach
MP34 gets a faster ADS time as well
prime pine
Mab has better mag
stoic breach
Yeah wtf is this balance
shy badger
Mp34 can be upgraded to 32 and the mab to 30
prime pine
30 versus 32 but rof diffrencial
stoic breach
this is melting my brain
prime pine
Mp34 stays on 599 20 rounds
stoic breach
Oh yeah thats right
prime pine
Or 514 32
stoic breach
But it gets a faster ADS speed
shy badger
yea true didn't notice their rof isn't the same
stoic breach
Technically, MAB rpm is 599 as well
prime pine
Oh right. Still though.
stoic breach
So they have literally the same rate of fire with MP34 light bolt
stoic breach
Frostbite apparently cant use 00 digits for rate of fire
shy badger
The lower rof and easier recoil (+2 extra bullets)
stoic breach
So 600rpm for MAB is just a UI element
open surge
wait they can
shy badger
the mp34 is also more accurate
open surge
1200 rpm!!!!
prime pine
Its so easy
open surge
prime pine
Just extend the intermediate damage of the mp34 and mab to be more comparable to other subbies
stoic breach
I guess different SMG classifications could've lead to more interesting balance
prime pine
Nothing else
stoic breach
But I would've preferred something like MP34 being the only SMG thats 4-5BTK or 4-6BTK something
Vs the MAB which is 4-7BTK but has better hipfire
Idk
solid hinge
yes the grease gun is beast if you can hit your shots
open surge
which means more people will use it
imagine having to actually play the game to use suomi's light bolt
stoic breach
Which is fine
solid hinge
i still actually like using the type 100
stoic breach
Type 2A should be an easy weapon that trades performance
fickle carbon
I forgot people are OTPs that use 2As and StGs
stoic breach
Oh wow holy shit, I didnt realise the grease gun was 450rpm
fickle carbon
Great to be back
prime pine
Wanna know whats hilarious
stoic breach
I thought it would be like 420 or something
actually wait no frostbite cant use that
prime pine
The type 100/suomi has a better damage model than the fg42/bar
solid hinge
really?
solid hinge
damn
prime pine
Which sounds small
stoic breach
It drops its damage faster
prime pine
But its significant
stoic breach
But hits faster as well so idk
prime pine
The fg42/bar or whatever are not submachine guns
Their advantage were their high rates of fire and range.
You cant infinitely self heal
Which is was medic excelled in and made close quarter engagements more feasible for them.
Now you may as well run type 100 which is superior to those weapons.
solid hinge
Do you have a gun which isnt like powerful but you just feel more combatable using
prime pine
Not anymore
I enjoyed using the Bren which while wasnt a top meta pick in comparison to the lewis. It had superior horizontal recoil control and was a general extremely good anchor.
solid hinge
ahh yes the bren was my favourite just felt like the perfectly balanced gun
shy badger
Fg 42 has a better btk though bods
stoic breach
This hurts my fucking soul
Remember in Battlefield 1 when all LMGs/MMGs were 4-5BTK
And Chauchat was 3-4BTK
shy badger
What was the rpm?
solid hinge
When are they actually going to add the chauchat back into the game?
stoic breach
solid hinge
stoic breach
@shy badger rpm for what
shy badger
chauchat
strong parrot
xd just slow fire BAR bro, its fine
stoic breach
There were other guns that were better in alot of cases
solid hinge
all those years have taken a toll on the poor old chauchat and its rate of fire has dramatically reduced
strong parrot
thats because its an awful weapon and should be removed from the weapons pool
jovial scarab
you can survive an 8mm mauser/ .30-06 bullet no worries battlefield tells me so
shy badger
Because it's a short range mmg
strong parrot
30-06 means nothing guise, its game!
stoic breach
SHORT RANGE
shy badger
CQB mmg
stoic breach
Boy I really do love these intended ranges
shy badger
I'm honestly laughing when I say it
strong parrot
is dice balancing shit with FIFA ranges now?
how the fuck does that game even work
stoic breach
Lmao yeah
strong parrot
passing ranges for the ball to other players?
prime pine
Yeah guys. Mmg's are close range. You guys are just uneducated
stoic breach
Hold B to increase your bullet power, like shooting the football in FIFA
shy badger
Though I did hear people saying the spread isn't too bad when hipfiring, I need to give it a chance myself
jovial scarab
playing virtual soccer with your hands
stoic breach
Hipfire spread isnt bad its just shit when you compare to it a weapon actually made for hipfire
Everyone always goes on about hipfire MMG
strong parrot
hipfire mmg is just a dumb meme
stoic breach
You know what's not a dumb meme and a perfectly legitimate weapon
Slow fire BAR obviously
strong parrot
youre just having to rely on rng in your favor vs a weapon that has almost no deviation in its hipfire recoil 
I always pick the slow firing weapon with the smallest mag tbh
seems like the right idea
30 and 40 round slow fire lmgs to pick from? i say nay nay
prime pine
Dice knows everything
stoic breach
lofty swallow
So I started using the Tommy Gun and this thing takes less hits to kill someone than the Type 2A
prime pine
Totally balanced
lofty swallow
At least at level 1 it seems
prime pine
Oh yeah