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#battlefield-legacy-titles
raw orbit
twin musk
Reddit is full of cowards who can't adapt so they try forcing game devs to design the game to their likings
lyric violet
I have never been a weapon hipster, I only use a few weapons
gray glade
more recoil depends on which gun we're talking about, more recoil on the mg42 would be hillarious
gray saffron
a weapon hipster? ;D
gray glade
like its already spreading bullets around so much
twin musk
More recoil on the knife when
solid hinge
öäåö
gray glade
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raw orbit
Imagine wanting to use a variety of weapons looool
solid hinge
ööö
lyric violet
Yeah imagine being upset when you get killed by a SMG while carrying a MMG in CQC
Or killed by a MMG using a SMG on Panzerstorm 🙂
gray glade
if i were dice i'd focus alot more on anti cheat than they are already tbh
like yesterday in breakthrough the top 3-4 in each team were ppl pinging 150-190
completely destroying everyone, all rank under 60
solid hinge
just dont play PC
lyric violet
obvious cheaters... well there are some but ppl get accused all the time
ppl can spend so much time in game chat screaming at ppl who doesn't cheat
eager shore
On one hand, Battlefield is at its core a casual sandbox shooter, so not getting deleted in a huge map would help support that. On the other hand, with 32 vs 32 it'd help players survive when outnumbered if they could kill more enemies in one magazine.
lyric violet
Yeah I don't say that BF should ever do that, ppl don't put in enough hours the learn recoil patterns in BF games
twin musk
Every gun needs high enough recoil that your character model does a backflip
lyric violet
I have around 52 days of playtime... and that is to few hours even for one gun in CS for example
stoic breach
CS gunplay is kinda shit though
twin musk
The only way to balance the game is to make all the guns just as unusable as each other
stoic breach
They can achieve the same anti-magdump using random spread
And not with meme-tier boomer spread for every weapon
lyric violet
random spread.. like earlier suppression.. well I do not like that 🙂
stoic breach
Valve's greatest prank was making every CS player think that they're supposed to learn spray patterns
When first-shot accuracy and trigger control is more important
As well as positioning
languid nova
played my first game is so long, man it was so good, was intense and the team was insanely good at playing the objective!
gray saffron
nice 🙂
twin musk
Valves greatest prank was releasing Artifact 
viscid crater
Their greatest prank is not having anymore valve indexes for like 4 months
lyric violet
Don't even know what that is 🙂
viscid crater
VR
stoic breach
Lol
celest garden
Fuck
lyric violet
Well that is one way of putting it
celest garden
Has anyone seen the writing on the tank in the jungle trailer
lyric violet
I want some new operations tho I hope they
open surge
everyone has
lyric violet
I haven't even watched the trailer
tough lodge
breathes in
open surge
the fact that people on reddit took it as an honest insult is saddening
lyric violet
Maybe I should do that
lyric violet
Reddit ppl are the worst kind of players, I just hope they stop playing the game and start with something more like Hello Kitty
tough lodge
Atleast people on r/battlefieldv are not tryhards tho
open surge
yeah ttk isn't fun and all but the r/bf5 subreddit acts like dice shot their dog
tough lodge
Have you seen r6 subreddit
lyric violet
I need 30 bullets to kill one person with STG... well you do if you cant hit anything
viscid crater
Reddit players are the types of players who go 7-18 every game
celest garden
We all know that the m1a1 carbine is the best assult weapon
tough lodge
open surge
m2 carbine 
lyric violet
I just love the STG , pretty decent in every area with ironsight
viscid crater
m1a1 is actually garbage in real life
tough lodge
No patch notes for 6.0
celest garden
I haven't unlocked the stg
tough lodge
hoary condor
Type 2A 
open surge
type 2a is medic
open surge
bar/lewis
eager shore
Worse. r/BattlefieldV members don't even play the game.
eager shore
So how's it like having laser technology in 1939?
tough lodge
viscid crater
They shouldn't have added the 2a then we wouldn't have any issues
open surge
iwo jima rocks made out of ice
lyric violet
Type2a , most users cant even use it
open surge
tried calling artillery on c flag, slipped down and called artillery on myself 
lyric violet
I once sent a v1 on my self, damn invincible bush
tough lodge
guys how does the artillery guns on G.O work
open surge
I miss the suicide screen saying "bad luck" like in bf3
tough lodge
It can be fired by pressing E on pc
open surge
none of this "ACCIDENT" bullshit
tough lodge
But i dont know where it lands
lyric violet
You never know 🙂 sometimes it hits where ppl are spotted
eager shore
If it's anything like Battlefield 1, it lands where you last put your ping.
solid hinge
Green is an ugly color.
stoic breach
The artillery just randomly picks targets from people who are spotted
viscid crater
That's colorist
solid hinge
Guess 5.2 isnt the only thing in the game that's ugly now
lyric violet
I would like one feature, to be able to see how many times ppl have actually reported you for cheating
stray kelp
lyric violet
that would boost my morale
open surge
kinda wish we still had the old battlefield system of vehicles being in one section
"Tanks" "Aircraft"
lyric violet
Yeah the vehicle spawn system is a bit of a hassle...
open surge
I have considerably more experience in the chi-ha than the sherman
lyric violet
Even if you get one, choose vehicle and it is gone...
open surge
and I haven't even really used the brit/german tanks yet
open surge
I changed to the classic controls on ps4
with the trigger keys being reverse/accelerate
viscid crater
BF4 and 3 had the best controlles
open surge
means I can actually spin the tank on the spot
stoic breach
Vehicles in general suck in BFV
viscid crater
If I've said it before, I'll say it again. There was literally no reason to come out with BF1 or V
open surge
especially when every tank driver sits at spawn and pretends they're bf1 arty trucks
stoic breach
I still cant enjoy BF4
open surge
they do have reasoning
stoic breach
I tried playing it today and I was just bored out of my kind
open surge
you know what I love about breakthrough
twin musk
EA probably threatened to fire everyone tbh
open surge
the fucking armada of tanks attackers get
viscid crater
A lot of people quit
viscid crater
They care more about appeasing people
open surge
i'm just looking at the al sundan page
twin musk
Wasn't one of the dudes fired
twin musk
The dude who was like "lol don't buy if you don't enjoy"
open surge
1 tank
viscid crater
People listened lol
lyric violet
haha you talk about that Patrik Soderlund dude
that dude was out of his mind, a real jackass trying to push agenda into the game
lyric violet
Not as vivedly
frozen reef
Just finished a match where what I call the battlefield 5 tragedy occurred
Our team was on breakthrough and they kept trying and trying to cap the objectives they would cap 1 but just die
open surge
it's not nearly as strong as that whole "everyone's battlefield" thing
twin musk
The what
frozen reef
The lack of team balance in bf5
open surge
twitter bullshit
viscid crater
It's worse on PC
stoic breach
"Everyone's battlefield" would just be easy gunplay + melty weapons + well known WW2 battles for maximum hype
viscid crater
Because there are no servers
open surge
why is there no team balance 
lyric violet
Balance is hard tho, when they push for teamplay
frozen reef
The bf5 tragedy where a team tries and tries but the enemy team is far superior
viscid crater
And you constantly play against try hards
open surge
I'm tired of there being massive gaps in teams on either side
and the pubstompy pros vs noobs situations that no balancing brings
lyric violet
Good players tend to find eachother and befriend and stick together
open surge
a little a balance is ok
frozen reef
Props to that team I was on though, they just kept at it
open surge
you don't need to go full MW skill based matchmaking thing
frozen reef
Brave little noobs
lyric violet
so what rank are you all at?
eager shore
The thing is, I think true balance is almost impossible with server browser, Platoons, and many players wanting to play with their friends.
stoic breach
SBMM would destroy Battlefield
frozen reef
Mw skill based matchmaking is super g a y
stoic breach
Battlefield just thrives off of being incredibly unbalanced
open surge
they can make it fun then
viscid crater
Server balance is pretty goo d on console
frozen reef
I haven't really been playing much of this game since 5.2 so I'm only 78
Bf1 team balance wasn't bad
Imo
twin musk
The real problem with BFV is I can't make my character a crossdressing clown with an axe smh dice fix
frozen reef
Too true
lyric violet
BF1 balance... well games where often curbstomped
frozen reef
I know I'd pay the equivalent of my countries healthcare for a crossdressing clown outfit
lyric violet
10-12 ppl often jumped in together and wrecked
stoic breach
BFV by design isnt supposed to help worse players either
Its designed to reward clans and zergs
gray saffron
if you got shakey teams in bf1, you could easily up in a spawn camping situation due the way the maps were designed. team balance in bfv atleast let you get out of the spawn for the most time
broken rover
bf4 is great 🙂
frozen reef
Not enough bf4 servers on console :(
viscid crater
I got banned for the 15th time today on facebook
stoic breach
Not enough BF1 servers on console in australia
stoic breach
broken rover
not enough good battlefield games
yeah but in no situation would a heavy barrel increase recoil
eager shore
I don't think I've ever been spawn camped, or done it myself in Battlefield V.
broken rover
if it's heavier, it will go up less, therefore recoil decreases
tough lodge
Me when playing breakthrough
-caps a
-proceeds to b
-enemies retake a
-we take b
-everyone rush for a
-enemies retake b
-decides to stay at a and defend
-gets overrun
-tells chat to atleast leave 1 squad to defend a
-we took b
-enemies took a
-no one defends b again
-rinse and repeat
open surge
me
broken rover
lol
open surge
it's like the whole conquest song and dance
except it's 2 flags instead of an entire map
less running around!
frozen reef
Oh yes the back and fourth scenario of breakthrough
open surge
but more frustration!
viscid crater
Me playing BFV:
Is pinned down by tank
Is pinned down by tank
Is pinned down by tank
does 3 damage to tank
Is pinned down by tank
tough lodge
G.O has frontlines but downgraded version
broken rover
global offensive?
frozen reef
Guys I play planes 😔
eager shore
Not enough bf4 servers on console :(
Wait whut. At least on PS4, there's lots of servers.
frozen reef
I do things like spotting with ju88 camera and getting top of leaderboard from just spotting and prioritizing tanks 😔
tough lodge
Here's my suggestion for flares
frozen reef
If only I was as useful as flyB
And all the other plane dwellers
When you get kicked out of those servers it's a bit hard to find new ones
tough lodge
- map enemy icons should be blinking instead of static
- flares should have a limit on which altitude it will work
- map only (no doritos above heads) spotting
at the current state of flares why even use wallhacks
tough lodge
yes
open surge
lame
frozen reef
Things can be even more simplified I know you all are probably tired of saying it and hearing but
ʲᵘˢᵗ ʳᵉᵐᵒᵛᵉ ⁵.²
gray saffron
not. happening.
solid hinge
magic lantern
I love the message that i receive in ps4 when a salty player tells me to fuck me off with my tank
lyric violet
Uhm I wonder if I should go to reddit and type that k/d matters 🙂
tough lodge
tiggr is leaving dice
frozen reef
I just today reinstalled bfv and got the breakthrough tutorial and when I say some dude kill someone with a sturmgewehr I was taken by suprised seeing someone die so quickly
tough lodge
frozen reef
Then I remembered
tough lodge
I feel bad for tiggr
open surge
wait there's another sturmgewehr?
stoic breach
Tiggr is leaving dice
open surge
😮
magic lantern
sorry for not knowing but who is tiggr
tough lodge
He told the community that ttk changes will never happen again
stoic breach
Maybe supports will finally get mortars
open surge
let them use them inside of the underground
tough lodge
Then 5.2 happened
frozen reef
Another?
lyric violet
No more weapon that creates random death plz
open surge
iirc they tried this in late 2018
frozen reef
Like the noob tutorial where it's showing you how to play the game mode
open surge
voice: "BREAKTHROUGH."
stoic breach
Mortars were only annoying because you never got warned when one was about to hit
tough lodge
@open surge yes first ttk change happened on dec 2018
frozen reef
And they tutorial guy killed someone with the sturmgewehr quicker than I would ever expect
stoic breach
Imagine if mortars had to fire a red flare before firing
lyric violet
Imagine running a tank thru a house, only to face the stairs... well shit
tough lodge
They reverted it, and tiggr said it will never happen again
jovial scarab
is the type 11 going to be an mmg or lmg?
stoic breach
At least then you get a visual warning
open surge
love pushing objectives as a tank driver
frozen reef
Or being a weenie in a plane doing nothing to help
open surge
you have so much presence
lyric violet
well pushing with tank is something you do, but you don't drive it straight down the snakepit
open surge
no ofc not
tough lodge
i drive tanks
open surge
push the enemies back with some long range fire
tough lodge
Mostly medium tanks
open surge
then go in and cap flags instantly
tough lodge
PzIV and sherman are my favorite
open surge
I like the chi-ha
tough lodge
I dont push when there is no friendly infantry nearby
lyric violet
Don't even know what the tanks are called that I use.. they work tho
open surge
are they big
frozen reef
Sometimes you gotta take your pants off and just shove your big self in that cap to create panic
lyric violet
I need to start bfv and check, no they are mediums
open surge
the churchill is massive and i hate it
stoic breach
Tanks arent even good at attacking objectives in BFV
Like they are in previous games
tough lodge
i was driving a valentine and saw some mines
lyric violet
valentine mkIII and panzer iv
lyric violet
sherman and type97
frozen reef
While definitely not as much as previous games you can still do it granted you gotta not pull up all crazy like unless there's 5 tickets left
lyric violet
mk vIII it was
tough lodge
@solid hinge "not gonna happen"
-1k downvote
solid hinge
@tough lodge oy where they said that
frozen reef
Did you just say an opinion!
⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
stoic breach
Tanks in BFV cant really be aggressive because of the slow movement speed and turret rotation limit
frozen reef
I don't agree with you so have the wrath of my 50 reddit accounts
solid hinge
stoic breach
And also you cant jump out and repair quickly like BF4
tough lodge
@solid hinge some dude posted
"Revert ttk, thats the answer"
Then braddock replied
"Not gonna happen, thats the reply"
solid hinge
lyric violet
well they don't need to revert the ttk
lyric violet
it is easy enough to kill right now
solid hinge
Totally off topic. Do you guys think we can expect some of the classic from bf1942 to be added to the game any time soon? Maps like omaha beach etc 😮
frozen reef
Where do you guys see this situation in an year?
open surge
removal of german weapons
gray saffron
well they also added wake island from 1942, so isvh possible
open surge
is there a map with a fuckton of tank spawns on both sides
stoic breach
In chapter 30
open surge
like older battlefield maps
lyric violet
More untold stories
gray saffron
panzerstorm
frozen reef
Panzerstorm
solid hinge
wake island was in most of the bf games though, so i dont really count that for a classic :
lyric violet
like how vegans defeated the world
solid hinge
:/
lyric violet
I never remembered that
open surge
oh shit panzerstorm has 6 tanks
lyric violet
I wanted a remake or new BC2 style game
frozen reef
No cheating problem if all the Chinese hackers are coughing to death
gray saffron
panzerstorm is based on the largest tank battle in early ww2 at hannut
open surge
the anti cheat is coronavirus
harsh elbow
open surge
tank superiority
lyric violet
Dice actually made a virus to defeat cheaters
open surge
like bf3
stoic breach
Yeah tank superiority
lyric violet
it was easier
gray saffron
yeah thatd be fun
stoic breach
Cause Panzerstorm is basically an un-map if you like infantry
harsh elbow
Tanks but they have wheels
open surge
heavy and medium tanks only
gray saffron
and a plane superiority
stoic breach
But its a decent vehicle map
harsh elbow
frozen reef
They would have to balance tank v tank in a way
I feel like everyone would use tiger with heat
stoic breach
Just a War Thunder mode basically
open surge
because imagine using panzer 38t against churchill 
stoic breach
Yeah tanks in general need a big rebalance
tough lodge
@gray saffron
Dice does some research
Battle of hannut
Sees one british helping the belgians
Dice - "unknown battles"
solid hinge
harsh elbow
gray saffron
a tiger can't beat two stags though :3
tough lodge
I like AP shell
open surge
isn't it funny how a 1940 map has a tank from 1942
stoic breach
If damage between tanks was increased a bit, and tank v tank was really melty with a faster movement speed for every tank
tribal cairn
Give Tigers their real range
gloomy kraken
Is it True that a multiplayer producer is leaving?
harsh elbow
Wheeze
tough lodge
@open surge a rifle issued in 1944 used in 1940
stoic breach
That would be really fun for a tank superiority mode
tribal cairn
In sure that's fne
tribal cairn
Also I agree
open surge
the weapons are harder to handle because you unlock those and use them everywhere
tough lodge
harsh elbow
F.
open surge
but you don't unlock the tiger
gloomy kraken
solid hinge
frozen reef
What happened to Grand ops in general
lyric violet
dice really tells some untold stories,
shy badger
Yep jer is right, 2 stags>tiger
lyric violet
damnit time space travel was possible
shy badger
3 stags>2 tigers, too
lyric violet
3 tanks one bomberplane around vehicle supply station
harsh elbow
Capture the flag but there are 10 flags and guns from 1987
stoic breach
Panzer IV is still probably the best german tank
Because you can farm the fuck out of infantry
tough lodge
dice if you dont release air superiority im literally reeeeing till my voice box explodes
frozen reef
Okay guys we need to show the unknown battles 😤
The British fighting where they didn't fight
stoic breach
Tiger is better for tank v tank, which is a minority activity
shy badger
Tiger is also excellent against infantry, a larger blast radius with it's 88
Good ammo count
Nice CMGs
stoic breach
Doesnt really have the S mines or flares though
shy badger
Excellent armour (especially since the 5.2 patch)
stoic breach
Oh yeah tank armour
frozen reef
Infantry yes
But don't forget the importance of being able to keep up with your team and help them cap
stoic breach
Fucking
lyric violet
Why would they even lead a game with "untold stories" the actual stories are good enough
stoic breach
Stupid bandaid buff
Lets not fix tanks and instead just give them more health
This will certainly help address tank camping
frozen reef
Wasn't put out properly tho
lyric violet
Nah, they where unknown to begin with...
tough lodge
Dice just failed to deliver
Unknown battles good be
Italians in barbarosa and greece
Japs against china
unborn trench
BF5 sorta got ruined cuz of the TTK lol
tough lodge
Filipinos fighting japs in manila
lyric violet
The great battle of antarctica
unborn trench
U shouldn’t use the word “japs”, it’s considered a racial slur.
open surge
that period of time where japan played conquest assault on all of southeast asia
frozen reef
What is the current bfv year?
open surge
isn't that pacific storm
frozen reef
1942?
open surge
who even knows anymore
shy badger
There isn't a current year
harsh elbow
I think you mean the great battle of Mars
lyric violet
1942 with weapons from the future
shy badger
There are maps from 1945
open surge
by maps, we'd be in 44
harsh elbow
Logical
shy badger
And the newest one should be in 44 or 43
open surge
but it's just all over the place lol
frozen reef
France where
Poland where
lyric violet
timeline is a concept, just like ppl
frozen reef
Good idea for 5v5 competive tho
unborn trench
*USSR
frozen reef
Hear me out
tough lodge
The chronological thing is out of the window now
frozen reef
Polish and french resistance groups fighting the Germans seems like a good way to implement them and have 5v5
What you guys think?
tough lodge
We went from 1942 then skipped to 1945
open surge
wasn't the whole battle of rotterdam thing really small irl
shy badger
Wouldn't work, the community was so negative about 5v5 they scrapped it mid development
open surge
imagine a scaled down 5v5 devastation
tough lodge
@open surge i believe devastation was
A small battle
Like
Very small
Im lagging
tough lodge
below C
frozen reef
The town?
shy badger
Amm no
frozen reef
Ohhhh
open surge
i remember marita
frozen reef
That one place
shy badger
Like, it's the front flag of the british
open surge
got spawncamped or something
solid hinge
grupa krovi
frozen reef
I remember now
tough lodge
The only thing I hate about D is its too vertical
Ppl camping near the cannon placements
lusty jackal
so this new chapter is only gonna have 1 new map?
tough lodge
@lusty jackal we dont know that yet
lusty jackal
from the trailer seems so
trim osprey
when the new chapter update?
viscid crater
Likely
lusty jackal
no "in future we'll add more bla bla bla"
lusty jackal
yup
viscid crater
New chapter is feb 6th right
lusty jackal
no idea I unistalled bf 5
unborn trench
Does anyone still play BF1?
open surge
playing it right now
brave coral
Anyone know when the patch is?
tough lodge
trim osprey
k thanks
shy badger
Tuesday probably Dr
frozen reef
I do play bf1 on PS4
gray saffron
the patch is soon (tm)
if the chapter launch is on feb 6, i'd say the patch is prolly on tuesday 4
shy badger
New chapter
gray saffron
chapter 6, check #game-news 😄
open surge
bruh the horse just tanked a landship cannon
solid hinge
more shitty japenese maps?
solid hinge
@gray saffron then
gray saffron
mi casa?
tough lodge
i've watched too much attack on titan
solid hinge
whats next?
tough lodge
solid hinge
cant be one map for the whole chapter
tough lodge
Nothing
gray saffron
we'll..we're not gonna get chapter 7 until the end of chap 6 ;D
tough lodge
gray saffron
they might add new maps we dunno! D:
open surge
the fao fortress spawntrap is strong
tough lodge
@solid hinge 6.2
solid hinge
what is this
solid hinge
i like the new one
tough lodge
Where is my 6.0 patch notes dice
solid hinge
if they only fix the medics
tough lodge
I want the wall of text
queen canopy
Probably closer to Feb 6
Also I heard they’re not making too many changes until 6.2
solid hinge
what is the number now?
main grove
God I hated fao fortress so much
shy badger
6.2 will be closer to 5.0 but the TTK values will still be higher at medium range (I think it was 30m+)
main grove
Easily the worst out of the three base desert maps
solid hinge
what is the number now?
main grove
I’m wondering why they’re only buffing velocity for Ross and ari
solid hinge
someone fuckin answer me
tough lodge
@solid hinge we dont know thay yet
main grove
All the Fucking bolts need a velocity buff
shy badger
wdym what is the number now?
tough lodge
@solid hinge also, please do your own research
solid hinge
what does 6.2 stand for
tough lodge
Chapter 6 update number 2
shy badger
The balance path after the new chapter (6th chapter, hence 6.0)
shy badger
5.2.2
solid hinge
a long wait it is
shy badger
Probably
solid hinge
i played it yesterday
main grove
Update numbers don’t go up linear
tough lodge
You just bought the game yesterday?
stoic breach
30m is like average engagement distance
main grove
We’re not gonna see 5.3
stoic breach
Weapons should be balanced primarily for that range
main grove
Update numbers are in order but usually arbitrary
solid hinge
no im level
stoic breach
30m is super shallow to have the TTK higher after that
shy badger
I'm not even sure it's 30m, it's what I remember
main grove
30m is just fine for me
tough lodge
I think 30m should still have 5 btk for ar's and smgs
stoic breach
30m is where you expect to be killing people with automatic weapons
main grove
They probably will
stoic breach
Other than SMGs
shy badger
Yea I just checked it, it's 30m
solid hinge
wtf are these symbols
main grove
I mean I still kill people up to like 50m away with automatics now
You just have to be not shit
And hit your bullets
stoic breach
Ballots
strong parrot
So you sing them to death?
solid hinge
Is here any dice member on that server? I would love to ask them why they did the TTK change.
main grove
Light SARs are still in the worst state
stoic breach
Deadly serenade
main grove
Including pistol carbines
stoic breach
Yeah
strong parrot
xd coming soon though
stoic breach
Pistol carbines need their old damage models
And secondary pistols need to be buffed to pistol carbine damage
brave coral
Yeah
strong parrot
Was there a teaser in the trailer for a coming soon not shit ttk?
tough lodge
Low rpm SAR's should have max 4btk
brave coral
The PCs are too weak rn
main grove
Was 3BTK 360 rpm balanced for a gun with no recoil?
main grove
Like I thought that 4btk 450rpm up to like 15-20m would be fine
stoic breach
Better yet
450rpm 3BTK up to 10m is actually epic
Super ballsy damage model
And then 4BTK after
And ending at 6BTK at like 50m or something
tough lodge
The minimum date for 6.2 would be last week of feb
main grove
P08 should be 4 up to like 18m
drowsy flume
guys in general everyone hates the game but everyone is playing it
main grove
Trench should be 4 up to like 12-14m
tough lodge
Everyone here hates the game
drowsy flume
we should all stop till so they can fix it
tough lodge
main grove
Most players don’t waste their time on stuff like this discord
tough lodge
Not the game but those people who make decisions actually
main grove
They just play the Fucking game
stoic breach
450rpm 4BTK is kind of eh
If there isnt a 3BTK range in there
Thats just generic fast pistol damage
tough lodge
Should the mp40 be a 3btk at 0 to 10m
stoic breach
Well for pistol carbines I mean
tough lodge
main grove
Nah fuck that
stoic breach
MP40 shouldnt be 3BTK to 10m
main grove
540smgs should be 4btk up to 14m
stoic breach
Yeah
main grove
Like MP18 in BF1
tough lodge
Weapons below 500 should be 3 btk
tough lodge
For 0 to 10m
stoic breach
400rpm 2BTK
main grove
I want an MMG to try like a Madsen damage model
shy badger
@solid hinge According to Dice: Reduce the amount of new players that quit after dying in ways that they find unfair (I.E die fast to a player who shot them at medium-long range) and also 'make room' to new guns by giving each weapon a more specific role and effective range
main grove
Where it would be 6-6
solid hinge
Is there any german here
main grove
Maybe M1922
tough lodge
@solid hinge there is but he's not here rn
shy badger
There's an old blog post uploaded by partwelsh or braddock that discussed it, it was pretty long and contradictory but that's what I got from it
stoic breach
MMGs are primarily mid-long range after all
solid hinge
@solid hinge absolutely
stoic breach
MG42 and MG34 being 5-5 wouldnt be too bad either
main grove
I understand making the game feel less bullshit for new players by making insta death from weapons at ranges far beyond any previous battlefield no longer a thing
stoic breach
Easy fix would be to buff information
At least let players know whats happening properly
stoic breach
Yeah its stupid
main grove
Where you just look at someone for about 5 seconds then have to sit through the same dying animation
stoic breach
Yeah, the death animation isn't necessary
solid hinge
@shy badger so they ruined the game for the community, just to attracted a new community?
stoic breach
Why do you need to look at a medic at all
main grove
That fucking flatline sound effect is getting on my nerves
stoic breach
They already know you're dead
shy badger
The way they probably saw it, it didn't ruin the game as much since guns behaved the same at their effective range
But yea, Dice have some weird logic I can't get behind
stoic breach
Ideally, death cam should give you a damage timeline, and tell you which part of the body you were shot at and how many players shot at you
And there should be no bleedout animation, that can just be done with a "skip death" UI button on deathcam
main grove
And make allies animations no longer a thing
stoic breach
The BF deathcam has never really shown you if you were shot by multiple people
Yeah
main grove
For fucks sake why did they have to make all the health ammo and dying systems “immersive”
It fucks the game flow so much
tough lodge
@stoic breach they had that in hardline
stoic breach
Like, I would actually want to know if somebody assisted the person who killed me
tough lodge
Iirc
tough lodge
@main grove we traveled back in time
main grove
Like if you’re working on a tight time frame
stoic breach
Oh yeah
main grove
Why not just use them again
stoic breach
If you get killed within a few seconds of spawning, the game should just auto-skip your revive, and cut down your respawn timer by half or something
main grove
Rather than having to build up new systems from the ground up
main grove
Imagine if teams got scrambled in 1944
I still remember when I was playing BF1 that I was convinced that BFV was just gonna be like BF3 to BF4
And it was just gonna be a WW2 skin for BF1
stoic breach
I wish it was
Reskinned BF1 with major improvements to game mechanics wouldve been perfect
main grove
I wouldn’t have minded except I would have liked a bit less spread
main grove
Like they tried so hard to make BFV nothing like BF1
stoic breach
BF1 but with BFV gunplay would be alright, as long as spread-to-recoil conversion got dumped
main grove
Like they super forced it
stoic breach
Yeah
Oh yeah, if passive 3D spot got implemented in BFV like it was supposed to
And not dumped because "hurr durr no 3D spot"
Like, the solution to spot spam was in the game files
Unused
main grove
Were people really mad over 3d spot
gray saffron
people claim they want a bf1 remake..but..spotting in that game was way worse than the spotting that was dded in 5.2 :3
main grove
Like what was the issue
stoic breach
Yeah cause it was spammy and didnt tell you if you were spotted
It was information with no counter-information/feedback
tough lodge
👁️ YOU ARE SPOTTED
main grove
It should have just been a few second cooldown
main grove
Tbh that icon while helpful to my survival makes me really Fucking uncomfortable
stoic breach
It was a fantastic addition to BFV
main grove
Like I must find a smoke cloud and sit in it
Or shoot the flare
But most of the time it’s from planes
stoic breach
It should definitely show you a bar on screen to how long before you are unspotted
stoic breach
And sprinting should make the spot disappear faster
main grove
Should killing the original spotter remove the spot?
main grove
Like spotting is a powerful tool but there’s not enough ways to counter it
stoic breach
Yeah, I know that
raw orbit
Setting spot to your movement keys so you're just permanently spotting 
stoic breach
Still useless
Actually, a decent counter to flare spam would've been gadget cooldowns but oh well
solid hinge
@Battlefield V
stoic breach
Maybe they just shouldnt let you use gadgets until you're alive for 5 seconds
main grove
I miss the Trench periscope in BF1 applying like a super spot
Where they have an outline
And on vehicles you can just see them through walls fully
raw orbit
Flares only spot you if you have a direct line of sight to them 
stoic breach
Yeah, Trench Periscope was neat
dry loom
I love how the battlefield subreddit gets so up in arms about the 5.2 ttk. like cmon, the ttk change really did not fuck over the game as hard as everybody think it has. the better player is still going to win the same gunfights.
stoic breach
Flares disregarding line of sight is what makes it so deadly for campers
Does the minimap show you the flare radius when you're spotted?
main grove
Flares are made for people hiding in buildings
raw orbit
Yes but it makes gunfights less fun and overall made the weapon balance worse
main grove
No it doesn’t which sucks
stoic breach
Yeah it should show you
dry loom
yea but i feel there are WAY more things wrong with the game
main grove
You are right when you say BF has a serous info problem
dry loom
than the god damn ttk
main grove
AT is current worse than TTK right now
main grove
Like at least TTK affects both sides
stoic breach
Lol ye
dry loom
yep 100%
open surge
ft17 is fun
raw orbit
Everything is wrong now but at least in 5.0 the ttk was right
solid hinge
zzzzzz
main grove
But AT being busted makes it so tanks can easy 70-0 with hardly any effort
dry loom
i wish launchers were as effective as bf4 days
main grove
Like I hate seeing the word revert but it is true that 5.0 was the best state the game was in so far
dry loom
you could fuck up a tank solo with rpgs and a repair torch
main grove
It still needed better adjustments
Like I think Semis should have got the RPM nerf
But not the Damage
stoic breach
I dont think semi's shouldve been nerfed at all
dry loom
i'm here just waiting for the next battlefield game and hopefully it is set in current times or near future
stoic breach
Just up the damage and reduce the spread of certain guns
main grove
Semis were easy as fuck to use as a better sniper than recon guns
stoic breach
Yeah thats a recon problem though
dry loom
i liked semi balance in bf1
shy badger
Razen you'd have probably loved hardline
stoic breach
I probably would have
solid hinge
@Butterfield V
main grove
Yeah I heard hardline was like COD TTK
shy badger
It's more solo and a very lethal ttk
main grove
Not for me at all that
stoic breach
Yeah I definitely would've loved it
dry loom
hardline aesthetic seemed too childish for my liking
main grove
If the game makes you die fast
shy badger
Less vehicles too
spring glacier
hEy guYs
stoic breach
I still think BF1 has the best sweetspot for TTK, no pun intended
main grove
Then death should be less of an issue
solid hinge
@Battlefield V
stoic breach
BF1 with easier and more accessible gunplay would make for an overall greater experience
Less time fighting your gun and more time fighting the enemy
dry loom
bf1 gunplay was fun but the maps were horse shit
stoic breach
With intuitive and natural weapon feel
raw orbit
Bf1 gunplay is very fun shame about all the other shit in that game
main grove
It’s a shame that tarkov has such good customisation but the game itself is the most boomer 4chan k shit ever
dry loom
bf5 has shit gunplay and shit maps
raw orbit
Nah I liked almost all the bf1 maps
dry loom
bf3,4 and bfbc2 were goats
spring glacier
A lot of bf1 maps are good
dry loom
bf1 trenchwarfare felt boring to me
shy badger
Bf4 has plenty of shit maps
spring glacier
Mainly the original ones
stoic breach
5.2 was an attempt to turn BFV into Bad Company
dry loom
bf4 had better maps imo
shy badger
Like, very very terrible naps
raw orbit
People overrated bf4 📠
main grove
I hated BF4 gunplay and maps
dry loom
i liked the verticality of some maps on bf4. it gave way for unique gunfights
but weren't annoying to deal with
stoic breach
BF4 is just snooze to me now, boring maps, boring weapons
BF1 at least has some stupidly goofy maps
And satisfying weapon design
dry loom
i wish i could still play bf4 but sadly im in aus and it's dead here
it's just 24/7 locker and shit
main grove
My most used weapon in BF4 was the Spas-12 because I at least want to use a gun that’s MEANT to have spread
gray saffron
bf4 has terrible guns when i play with @shy badger
stoic breach
24/7 locker
shy badger
Haha
stoic breach
I tried using the AEK today for the first time though
It was still kind of boring so I gave up and played MW instead
lilac umbra
because bf4 is getting older
dry loom
modern warfare is dead to me cuz of sbmm
shy badger
The scout elite with a 40x isn't that bad jer! /s
stoic breach
Yeah MW is just wacky
gray saffron
hahah
lilac umbra
you guys need to adapt
stoic breach
Amazing mechanics mixed with impossibly shit mechanics
dry loom
yep
stoic breach
Just makes it a weird game
MW with all the good shit though, actually would be an A-tier game on its own
dry loom
i would be grinding damascus right now probably if sbmm wasn't a thing. everything else about that game is so good
stoic breach
Great weapon design, good TTK
faint creek
Sorry for my silly question, but firstly, HELLO ALL!!! Is there an official BF1 and BF4 Discord or is it all in here?
stoic breach
Yeah, I just fuck around with Origin 12 most of the time
faint creek
Txx
stoic breach
I dont care about skins, I just care about doing weird shit
shy badger
All here afaik
stoic breach
BFV with MW gunplay though
It was so close
So fucking close
And just didnt get there
No ridiculous screenshake recoil in MW like there is in BFV, no ridiculous vertical recoil except for specific guns in MW
Its all nice
dry loom
my main issue with bf5 is that im a solo player, like i enjoy taking deep flanks and bf5 is bad for that. you start off with shit ammo and the best lone wolf class (medic) has pretty terrible guns if were being honest
faint creek
,..
stoic breach
Yeah class balance in BFV is pretty poo
dry loom
i mean i still do well in game, but it's not like it used to be
like in bf1 you could pop the fuck off by yourself
stoic breach
Medics get the most aggressive CQB weapons for some reason
Support gets shotgun for some reason
Medic gets the best bolt actions for some reason
stoic breach
Aw hecka yeah
Epic
Oh yeah
Assault gets two classes of midrange weapon for some fuckin reason
Honestly, ARs and SARs dont need to be in the same class
alpine belfry
Ngl I’m so happy that the new map is infantry based
stoic breach
Its just category overlap because they're just marginally different for how you want to play the same ranges
But SARs overall were better than ARs
dry loom
i kinda liked how there were universal weapons in bf4
stoic breach
Except for the Breda and M1907
dry loom
i dunno if that's bad balance but it felt fun
stoic breach
I think class weapon restrictions is overall better
shy badger
The universal weapons typically weren't the best guns (besides a few) so I feel like it wasn't that bad of a balance
stoic breach
And you can balance gadgets with specific weapons that work better with them
dry loom
yea they were usually weaker but gave you the opportunity to play weird playstyles
stoic breach
SMG recon in BFV would be an infinite pain to deal with
alpine belfry
I believe SARs like the Ag should not be so much more powerful than ARs at long range
shy badger
It also gave me the option to use the mtar on recon so I can't complain ^^
stoic breach
ARs should just be medic weapons
And SMGs should be assault weapons
Medics shouldnt be doing room clearance because they dont have the kit for it
Assault is made for it with explosives, but they dont get SMGs for room clearance
alpine belfry
Medics should have SMGs so they are up front doing their role
stoic breach
AR medic would let them play alot better
real dawn
Hello there
stoic breach
SMG medic makes them better at killing than reviving
gray saffron
hello travis
stoic breach
Because why would you revive one person when you could just spray multiple people
In CQB
And have a good time with that
alpine belfry
But if they have bf1 stuff they don’t push
main grove
Having an AR gives you more flexibility to kill whatever just killed your teammate
gray saffron
spray the people, make sure it's clear and then revive :3 double the points!
stoic breach
Still puts you at a ranged disadvantage if whoever killed your teammates isn't immediately close by
gray saffron
pop smoke, boom revive
stoic breach
Imagine StG44 medic, they would be alot better at playing their support role because their effective weapon range would be significantly better
languid nova
new dlc coming today or thursday
stoic breach
Pop smoke is a bad meme
main grove
No I’m saying medic AR is good
gray saffron
it's nto a meme. it's a lifestyle
alpine belfry
@languid nova feb 6
main grove
You have to pop smoke because reviving makes you completely defenceless for a second
shy badger
It's very effective
main grove
Which is bad revive design
stoic breach
Yeah
languid nova
ahh okie dookie. coool. been playing wake island and the pacific dlc and its just amazing
stoic breach
BF1 again handled reviving alot better
alpine belfry
I like the revive in bfv
stoic breach
By making it faster and easier, but giving revive tool a cooldown
Revives are generally low risk, low reward
dry loom
smokes were fun in the beginning but now it's just smoke spam everywhere and it gets kinda weird
alpine belfry
It’s not just spam syringe
alpine belfry
Smoke should be less opaque