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compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Fastest straight pull with sweet spot potential and the ability to swap to a poor man's 1906

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:06 AM

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too bad Gen Liu had shit variants

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Still gud either way

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Marksman liu would have been sweet

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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The sights were the worst parts of the Liu imo

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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the trench carbine for the assault

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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it was cool for the sniper memes

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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was op

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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but nothing else

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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I enjoyed the factory overall

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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fuck i need to find the clip

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where i got like a 100m Trench Carbine kill in BF1

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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That’s why you use buckhorn sights

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Zeebrugee TDM

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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no recoil carbine

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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WeSmart

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Buckthorn is okay I guess but takes up too much sight picture imo

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Thats great

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:08 AM

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model 10a hunter made me feel like i was actually using a shotgun

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compared to bfv

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Irons on the 1906 factory were my absolute fav in the game

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You should never have a shotgun in bf WeSmart

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Shotguns in bf1

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:08 AM

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https://youtu.be/DDf75X8L66k
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stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Yeah makes me wish for good sniping in BF

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 AM

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shotguns in BF1 sucked

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Lebel WearyOk

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 AM

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sniping mechanics in bf1 are good

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Sniping in MW is fun, but I still like sweetspots alot more

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 AM

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people failing to remember how hideously good BF3/4 shotguns were

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 AM

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I think a combination of sweetspot and BFGs would be great for BF going forward

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Personally

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 AM

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farquhar hill

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:09 AM

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BFGs? Like from DOOM?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Like one shot snipers

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Sniping in mw can be either rewarding or frustrating

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Without sweetspot

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:10 AM

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For example

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The kar

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:10 AM

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@knotty prairie

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Farquhar hill optical is bae

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:10 AM

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wearyok

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:10 AM

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yes

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epic

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what was your favorite map in bf1?

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Achi Baba

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No contest

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:11 AM

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nice

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:11 AM

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I can’t remember any of the maps

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PensiveDistort

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:12 AM

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i liked Argonne forest

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Argonne with a shotgun

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😳

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:12 AM

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I love the look of achi and the flow

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:12 AM

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because i could flank and spam

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with hellrigel

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Sooo many flanks in achi

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Suez with a squad working together was my favourite moment in bf1

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:12 AM

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So many places the 1906 would work with hit and run

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:13 AM

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scouts camping in the houses

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:13 AM

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mikeisdone

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:13 AM

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then getting destroyed by the armored train

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Suez was one of the worst maps imo

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Still alright though

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Ehh

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I guess it wasn't giants or galacia

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Neville nights was good

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:14 AM

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sinai desert with the motorbike

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Neville was pretty okay

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But prise was better

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Monte grappa

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Monte crappa mikeisdone

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:14 AM

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What’s the map with the island fort?

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:14 AM

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st quentin scar

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with the a7v

compact oxide Jan 20, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Quentin is great af

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:15 AM

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is op

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:15 AM

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All of the Russian dlc maps

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Yes

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:15 AM

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i liked the one with the giant cathedral the most

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Ok ok ok

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Now

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Ballroom blitz

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:16 AM

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oh

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:16 AM

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2_AHFOO

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:16 AM

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hellrigel spam

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:16 AM

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most of the maps were rly good in TDM / DOM

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I could play Suez and Giants Shadow DOM forever

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:16 AM

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i only played conquest

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:16 AM

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most maps were solid in Frontlines too

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Giants shadow in the blimp

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That was good especially if you were at the top

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:17 AM

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BF1 64p was bottom tier terrible

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:17 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iH-YqJ908Q

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:17 AM

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depending on the map it was either decent or intolerable

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40p shock ops was pretty based though

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64p Amiens or Achi Baba CQ could be okay

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they were usually good

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Cape Helles Ops for the epic destroyer farming memes

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:19 AM

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2:13 on the end theme

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The best feeling ever

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:20 AM

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best squad

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then you get your statistics

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a feeling of relief

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that you destroyed everyone

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and got best squad while topping the scoreboard

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:23 AM

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2 bad best squad is a meme

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gotta go for the personal accolades

knotty prairie Jan 20, 2020, 9:24 AM

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yeah

midnight nimbus Jan 20, 2020, 9:24 AM

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since you always wanna be squad hopping for better spawns anyways

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 9:27 AM

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I really liked it when it showed profile pictures

warm atlas Jan 20, 2020, 9:27 AM

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There was a lot of solid memes

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Also throwing my hat into BF1 map discussion. St. Quentin Scar, Amiens & Achi Baba were the goats.

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Sup bodie

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Is bfv good again?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:34 AM

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No

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Man I wish I got to play Shock Ops

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Turning Tides Rush was good enough though

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River Somme rush was great cause it wasnt a 64 player mess in conquest assault

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Ight imma head out

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Cya

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Guess I'm gonna keep joining marita breakthroughs

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Need half a tow level in the next few days

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Rip

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Where my Marita DOM go stalloneBob

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Wasn't that in the village

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The only good part of the map

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Yes

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Dude imagine making half a fun map

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And then the other half is just farm and extremely awkward sightlines

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Talkin about A flag

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:48 AM

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A and B are awkward but not as bad as the focal point of the map being shitty C and D

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Also

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Do you think arras would be better on CQ if C and F were removed

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Basically the two points on the right side that provide no cover

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:51 AM

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@main grove probably, but the entire map is better suited for modes other than CQ

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Even though it's probably one of the best CQ maps in the game, it fits FL and DOM alot better

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Most maps are not suited for conquest

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Devastation is still the best CQ map in the game

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Only 1942 shooting and maps fit conquest

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Yeah pretty much

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Devastation is alright in CQ cause its small and the flags are in a cross shape

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:53 AM

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I wonder what breakthrough would have been like on BF4/Hardline

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:53 AM

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It probably would've just been like Rush

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I wouldve loved if Frontlines was in BF4 though

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:53 AM

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I never played rush on 4

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Neither

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I know how it generally is though

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Operation Locker would've been really good on Frontlines

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:54 AM

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I only played 4 for maybe about 10-15 hours

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Since it would just be CQ but you cant run around and cap and ruin the map for the other team

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Most used gun was spas 12

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weirdChamp

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Yeah my most used gun in 4 was probably the AN94 cause all the guns felt the same

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Lol

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Its why BF1 is still my favourite BF that I've played

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Guns and gunplay is actually fun and interesting

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Truly unique guns

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Yeah

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BFV might make them look different in look but there's already really predicable patterns with stuff like SMGs

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Small mag fast
Big mag slower

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Yeah sort of

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I think the weapon balance in BFV could've definitely been much more interesting

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:56 AM

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I still wish I had a third branch that focuses on keeping a slow rpm low mag but super good accuracy specs

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Obviously pre-5.2

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Slow RPM low mag like RSC SMG

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Crunchy

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:57 AM

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No I meant like

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For the Tommy

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A viable way to run 720 20round

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Yeah I guess

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Thats just the biggest issue with the spec system in general

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:58 AM

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If you had really good recoil/accuracy specs in the place

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Yeah they're too simple

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And also one sided usually

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Well like, the stock weapon is always going to be worse than a specced weapon, there's more often than not going to be a more obvious spec choice

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And its sort of limiting

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Just because weapon balance is "good enough" but not nearly interesting enough

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Imo

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Miss BF1 where picking the "factory unspecced" weapon gave you massive buffs to spread decrease

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Yeah

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Thats why the variant system is always gonna be way better

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Especially with weapons that really dont need to have one side of the spec tree chosen

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Variants are boring as fuck but good for balance

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Like the AT Rifles entire right side being shit

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Yeah the spec system is mostly illusion of choice though

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It could've been a more engaging way of designing variants

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Beta spec trees were more unique

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:01 AM

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But then you sometimes just get useless specs

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:01 AM

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You could make 20 round detach Turner

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Yeah, which was nice

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But thats what the G1-5 for is for so eh

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Are bolt trees balanced?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

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They're equally shit

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

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They're kinda confusing

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:02 AM

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So yeah I guess they're balanced

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Because I assume that faster bolt speed is for the aggressive side

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But it's on the sniping side

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Yeah, faster cyclic rate is a pretty obvious choice though, since snipers fire so slowly

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As well as quick aim and quick reload

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:04 AM

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I mean they're not as slow as BF4 snipers

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I fucking hated snipers in BF4

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After playing BF1

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Yeah BF4 snipers suck

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They're equally shit to BFV snipers but in a different way

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:05 AM

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They're sluggish and janky

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And the bullet drop is insane

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But at least they do damage

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Not that much

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 AM

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BFV snipers are snappy but their bullet is painfully slow and low damage

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 AM

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And being able to OHK only up to 20m is stupid

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Yeah

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 AM

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I liked sweet spot in BF1

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It made snipers actually different

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Yeah

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It was great

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Straight pull was balanced by having no sweetspots

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Until Ross I guess

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:07 AM

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BFV snipers really need that, and then bolt carbines should be moved to recon to be the "skillful" headshot snipers for people who detest sweetspots

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Yeah, Ross sweetspot is quite nice

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Oh yeah, snipers should all be able to rechamber while aimed, but straight pulls should be faster

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:08 AM

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I don't think snipers need straight pull if they were capable of sweet spotting

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Even then, its for the sake of target tracking in case you do miss

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Plus, you could drop the ADS speed for snipers with stronger sweetspots as well

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And I'm pretty sure irl the Lee Enfield was designed so you could rechamber while aiming easily

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If its just that the scope moves a bit, but doesnt fully disengage it would be enough

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I think BF1 CTE had that at least

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Should've been in the main game

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Does MW have straight pull

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Yeah it does

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Actually that game has fucking ADS reloads which are weird

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Yeah, its pretty cool

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Doesnt have sprint reloading though, which is something I really appreciate in BF

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Isn't there a perk for it

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Maybe

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I havent checked though

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You know what would be nice, if BFV had sprint speed acceleration the longer you ran for

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Don't you have infinite sprint but limited super sprint?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Yeah

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:12 AM

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In MW

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:13 AM

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It would be nice if there was a super sprint meter, that would be nice

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Something else I prefer in BF games is the fact that theres a healthbar

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:14 AM

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God BF would be so cancer without a health bar

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Yeah

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Especially with health limits which I fucking hate and don't understand why they added

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Forced teamwork, thats why

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:15 AM

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I mean teamwork should be massively effective

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But not necessary

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Like you should not be punished for not doing it

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Yeah, that was how BF1 was, for the most part, but it could've been better

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Just not rewarded

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Well, individuals who can work together as individuals is good

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Its better than people who can only operate as a team

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Because sometimes, the team isnt good enough

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Most people act as individuals

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Only people who act as a "team" are clan stacks

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And that's just sticking to each other like glue while all playing medic

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Yeah, and it sucks because clans arent rewarded as much as individuals are punished

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Yeah stacking in general is just cancer

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Especially because of the "teamwork" mechanics dragging the entire experience down

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Support is fucking useless now that ammo boxes that insta fill everything are ever present

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Yeah

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Its also why I wish medics couldnt give or use healthpacks

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:18 AM

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I would be fine with supply canisters maybe having that effect

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Because players should be able to regen health equally, and medics shouldnt be reduced to walking button presses

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Because then it's someone providing it

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And not just the map

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Yeah, even then, it would probably be better if the game had "infinite" ammo and gadgets that worked on cooldowns

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:19 AM

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But ammo in BF1 was near perfect

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Yeah

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Ammo 2.0 was almost there

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Supports shouldnt be walking button presses either

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Its not truly helpful to have a support, it just sucks to not have one

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Support should either be mechanic or ammo bearing

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Not both

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Like congratulations, you have 2 entire classes that provide the bare minimum for an FPS to work, that other games already have

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That being health regen and infinite ammo

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:20 AM

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I kind of wish we had BF4 classes again

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Assault

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Engineer

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Support

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Scout

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Support mechanic also kind of sucks but its better than ammo support

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Engi being the AT class was great

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Yeah, but I do like the way that BF1 and BFV have Assault, Medic, Support and Recon

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All classes should have varying degrees of AT

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Assault in BF4 was essentially just medic with ARs

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And GL

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Yeah the reason why BF4 medic was so strong was because they could heal faster than other classes, and ARs were strong in general

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Support kind of struggled to be useful though

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In BF4

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Thats why AR medic could work in BFV if you took away the ability to self heal, and gave everyone equal regen power

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:23 AM

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They had very niche gadgets that just didn't work most of the time

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Because medics could still revive people

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Yeah

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Like having a 5 second delay before a full 100hp heal in BFV would be good

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Should assaults get SMGs and Shotguns again

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Or a 3 second delay before a 100hp regen over 2 or 3 seconds

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Yeah they should

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:24 AM

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While medic would get SAR and AR with no self heal

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:24 AM

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I think medic with AR and semi-carbine would be alright

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And recon should have bolt carbine

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Assault SAR/Shotgun/SMG works well as is

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Support having Shotguns is just odd

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Its also stupid

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Class roles dont benefit shotguns at all

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And defensive shotgun sucks in general

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Like support is meant to be the most ranged class behind scout

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:25 AM

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I think medic SAR would be slightly stronger than it really needs to be

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Medic having AR makes sense, because it loses to SMGs in CQB and SARs at long range

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But can still hold its own really well, and can beat an SAR if they arent good enough

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AR medic would be acting as an intermediate power that can be team support

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Thats SARs tho in a world of no spread

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Basically bolstering the power of assault SAR

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Yeah

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:27 AM

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I don't like spread

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At all

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But without it

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Well spread is good as a balancing factor, it just doesnt need to be super extreme

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Balancing is much harder

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Enough spread that can strike a balance between intuitive gunplay and range balance is good

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 AM

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BF1 with a little less id say is good

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 AM

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BFV without spread-to-recoil would've been the ideal system

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They were so close

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Sometimes spread on those SARs went truly bullshit

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Yeah

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:29 AM

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It was horrible because I'd use general Liu bolt mode

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And miss most the time

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Rip

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Yeah wide base spread doesnt need to be super extreme

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 10:29 AM

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So glad that bolt mode got added

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:30 AM

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For SMGs a slightly higher base spread would be fine

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So SMGs can be 4-6BTK but not be able to be used at range

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Higher base spread with lower max spread

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Varying between weapons, that would be good enough

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:31 AM

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Visual recoil in BF1 kinda got annoying as well

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RSC SMG

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:31 AM

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But again, not extremely high base spread, but enough to where you wont hit shots at 40m+ without a bit of RNG

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RSC SMG was still really good despite that

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Cause of its good damage and base spread

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:31 AM

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Yeah I only managed it with hipfire

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Well now that I've played BFV and was able to tweak aim ratio

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BF1 ADS feel so shit to me

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:32 AM

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BF1 still has really good options

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:32 AM

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Like near equal values of horizontal and vertical sensitivity

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I usually play with 52% aim ratio

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So aiming up and down is 52% slower

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 AM

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Yeah

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Fair enough

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Just remembered how every BF1 map could get foggy as fuck

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Yeah, it was shit but I kind of liked it

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It was just really stupid

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 10:35 AM

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Foggy desert be like

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:35 AM

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Fog in Sinai desert

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There was a sandstorm but it was much rarer

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:35 AM

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Even better was when my friend got client side sandstorm on Sinai but there wasnt a sandstorm

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So I had to help him direct his tank

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 10:35 AM

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It was cool how you could see it coming for a while though

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Oh yeah

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My friend said he got a sandstorm and could not see shit when he was in the back of my plane

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Yet it was perfectly sunny for me

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Yeah fuckin weird

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Client side weather OMEGALUL

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Dude epic BF1 moment

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I love that game but fuck it had some dumb shit

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Like every game really

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Pretty much

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 10:44 AM

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god i wish i didn't live in australia

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bf1 can be a real ghost town

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 10:45 AM

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Yep

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Cant find matches in BF1 anymore

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 10:50 AM

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like, fine dice

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i'll play bfv

orchid shore Jan 20, 2020, 10:54 AM

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why DICE can't be nice to aus

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MW has an bundle that gives donations to the aus fire situation

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DICE has done nothing

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what an greedy move DICE

autumn turtle Jan 20, 2020, 10:57 AM

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BF V needs a system where you can disable maps you don’t like. I’ve gotten wake island 5 times in a row -_- I cant stand the map as well

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 10:59 AM

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Server browser exists

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 11:00 AM

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map cycle

lilac umbra Jan 20, 2020, 11:17 AM

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bf4 have more activ players than bf1

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 11:18 AM

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yep lol

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i leave rain or shine server and then join another server that is just sandstorm hamada

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finally got that fuckin grease gun

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 11:30 AM

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they just need to fix their community games support. so we start seeing some proper classic base maps rotations and they actually are full instead of 1/64 ;D

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 11:32 AM

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just watched a german zoom around like it's mw

fiery wharf Jan 20, 2020, 11:50 AM

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do you have to stay til the end to get progress towards the chapter 5 dogtag?

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I just got dc'd 30 tickets away from victory in an awesome game 😦

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wondering if all that progress towards the 2.9mil is lost

gloomy kraken Jan 20, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Yes, you have to stay till the end

fiery wharf Jan 20, 2020, 11:54 AM

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jesus christ fucking DICE

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thank you for the info

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 11:58 AM

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Ok I know I'm against boins shit and all but can someone dm me a list of boins only tank cosmetics? I can find the standard ones easily but idk anything about boins tank skins

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Ik about the halloween, christmas, tetsu no ame, besieged packs but I defo feel like there's more

uncut chasm Jan 20, 2020, 12:04 PM

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the ting with the fog and sandstorm was that not everyone had the effect, played with friends. they didnt had a storm while for me it was there the whole round.

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:07 PM

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huh

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 12:09 PM

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that's wack

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:09 PM

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@fiery wharf tow exp is capped till 10kish per conquest or so though i think the highest you can get is 15k during a frontlines mode map

uneven hollow Jan 20, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Are the old common outfits coming back or never

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:12 PM

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maybe in a bundle on the armory, otherwise prolly not :<

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Boins only tank stuff is only found in bundles

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 12:13 PM

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nice, shot through an entire house

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:13 PM

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They did release some rare tank stuff in the armoury a while back for CC for a week

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But it was for the Churchill gun carrier

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I think there was also two plane skinsb

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A blue one for the spitfire

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And a wavy white line one for the ju-88

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:16 PM

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wait, old common as in from the ToW i thought. if it was in the armory for cc, they can still return

uneven hollow Jan 20, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Well it was in the character customization

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Last time I saw

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:18 PM

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you mean the pit crew stuff?

uneven hollow Jan 20, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Well like the aristocrat

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:19 PM

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aristocrat was a ToW outfit. so those are likely not to return

uneven hollow Jan 20, 2020, 12:19 PM

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CatBeSad

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 12:19 PM

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nice i did 97 damage and the guy returned fire with a 2a

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im done

uneven hollow Jan 20, 2020, 12:19 PM

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This surely ain’t it dice

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 12:20 PM

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should've read before buying this game thinkcat

uneven hollow Jan 20, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Weren’t rare outfits also supposed to be worth CC

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Or was it only for common and uncommon

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:21 PM

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i don't think it's the gun. it's not much different from a suomi or tommy. it's just annoying that it's in such huge amount of use atm. maybe a bit more recoil would be neat so it isn't as effective over range and becomes a true cqc gun.

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yeah they were. but i guess dice found a loophole with the bundles :<

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:23 PM

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The grease gun actually has recoil tho

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Manageable but hard kicking

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:23 PM

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a tip with the 2a. just hide behind objects when it's firing at you. he'll be reloading in a few seconds and it's pretty long. so that's a good moment to pop out and kill him ;3

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:24 PM

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2A reloads very fast though

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It's really easy to do well with

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:24 PM

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You have 1 second to kill a 2a user

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Before you eat 25 bullets in 1 second

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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600 rpm is 10 bullets a second

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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2A should have a longer reload and light bolt suomi/tommy should be shorter cause like actually why would you ever use the suomi or tommy now lmao

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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So at 1200rpm it will be shooting 20 a second

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Idea to nerf 2a

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Minimum BTK 15

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Max 30

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Omegalol

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:26 PM

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lul

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Unironically make it maybe min 6btk

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Not like MG34 or M1922 is already 6 min

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 12:27 PM

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@gray saffron how do i hide behind things if i make it behind a whole building and still die

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KEKWW

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Even if it's 15 btk it can still kill you at less than a second

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:27 PM

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building was a spy obviously

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 12:27 PM

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gestapo building

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Yeah but about 700ms TTK will be very bad

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Madsen is around 500-700 I think

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Right now

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Just make it 800 rpm and light bolt to 1028

last pebble Jan 20, 2020, 12:28 PM

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any advice for good support guns?

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:28 PM

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@last pebble BAR

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:28 PM

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6 minimum dropping of to 10 around 30m would be fine

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Well I use faction specific weapons and my favorite class is support

last pebble Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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how's the specs?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Suomi/Thompson still do more damage than the 2A

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Brits - bren
Germans - fg42
American - bar
Japs - type 97

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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If the 2A only had a 20 round mag it would be the worst of the 3

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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2A is more magdump friendly

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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I always go with quick aim and some recoil reduction specs

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Yeah just cause of the extra ammo

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Suomi and Tommy are better for busting

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If you run 20 round

last pebble Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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okay thanks @tough lodge

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:29 PM

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yaay bren user!

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:30 PM

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is this btk or ttk?

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Slap a 3x scope on the bren and find some good position

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Kill and move

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Repeat

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Suomi and Tommy perform better in btk

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:30 PM

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how does the ttk compare between suomi/tommy/2A tho

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Oh yeah 800rpm Type 2A would be really generic

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Light suomi beats 2A

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:31 PM

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800rpm is what the Type 100 should be

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:31 PM

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But that 2A can have 30 extra bullets

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It's super made as an easy weapon

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Type 2a should have been a battle pick up with 3 extra mags not refillable

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Change my mind

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:32 PM

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lol

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Thats a terrible idea

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Considering the 2A is weaker than the Suomi/Thompson

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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i rather want bazookas as battlepick ups 😦

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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where to view bf weapon stats?

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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2A is weaker objectively but the feature that makes it good isn't its rpm or recoil

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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robenter doesnt have the 2A yet

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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sym.gg

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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It's the mag size and reload

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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thx

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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yeah the reload is insane

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super short, and 50 rounds reloaded at once too

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:33 PM

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20 round suomi and Tommy take forever to reload

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In comparison

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Yeah, I feel like the Type 2A should only have the 50 round mag or only have light bolt

last pebble Jan 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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type 2a was absolutely OP in every aspect

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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No

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It's damage is shit

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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or a lengthened reload with the extended mag

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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It's velocity is the worst in the game I think

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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If the game had variants instead of specs, the Type 2A would probably only release with one variant

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571429073671421981/668795633590861864/unknown.png right so the type 2A literally has a shorter ttk at all ranges so muh "2A is weaker" is literally false

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Thats based on all bullets landing, and the 2A has worse hrec

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Than either of the two weapons

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Tomorrow we're getting news about the new chaoter right?

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:37 PM

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It's not OP at all it's just a new weapon that's decent so it's being used a lot

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:37 PM

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id also like to see footage of the type 2A having more horizontal recoil because when i tested this myself it definitely had less

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:37 PM

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It maybe should be a bit harder to use

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Grease gun IMO is stronger than 2A

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Overall the 2A is stronger than grease gun, but the grease gun is still nice

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Do you think maybe the 2A might need to drop off to 6btk really close

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Like 6m

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Nah that would make it a shit weapon

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Automatico in BF1 started to drop pretty much instantly

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Also I think I found the stat for hrec

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:41 PM

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How was automatico balanced

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Because I remember that having terrible damage

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:41 PM

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It was 4-6BTK but the spread was shit

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Was it 4-6?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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I can check now to make sure

slate carbon Jan 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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is dice done with firestorm?

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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That's fucking mental I swear it was 5-7 or something

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Or am I looking at launch stats

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Ok it was 4-8BTK

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I just checked

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:43 PM

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If you had to nerf the 2A somehow ever so slightly

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What would you change

maiden sparrow Jan 20, 2020, 12:43 PM

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more recoil

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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The recoil only becomes an issue beyond 15m really

maiden sparrow Jan 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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yes but its an smg, its supposed to be good at close range

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I would probably make the Type 2A have a slightly slower reload

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Except the h rec makes it a bit RNG-ey

minor jacinth Jan 20, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Hm

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Started BF5 after a few weeks. still shit

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I'm looking at the specs now just to think about it

maiden sparrow Jan 20, 2020, 12:45 PM

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slower reload wont change enough

minor jacinth Jan 20, 2020, 12:45 PM

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the Type 2 A is totally broken

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Because like, the whole point of the Type 2A is ease of use magdump at a high speed

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Nerfing anything too much will just defeat the purpose of the weapon

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:46 PM

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yeah slower reload would make it easy to use, hard to master. if you dump your mag into a guy and he's still not dead, you're dead fish 😄

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:46 PM

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nerfing an easy to use gun would make it not easy to use anymore
wow really thats crazy dude

maiden sparrow Jan 20, 2020, 12:46 PM

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tbh I have been enjoying the grease gun recently

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:46 PM

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50 round mag is just way too forgiving

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Maybe remove it or make it a long ass reload

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:46 PM

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when the 2a gives me more mg42 vibes than the mg42. 😦

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Dont know what the condescending attitude is for

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Like 4 sec empty or something

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Type 2A should still be an easy gun if it was to be nerfed

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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I love the grease gun

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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But more like low effort low reward I guess

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Type 2A should be worse than suomi or Tommy

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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hai blackout 😄

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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But easier to use

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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yes thats fair

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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It's really easy getting multi kills with it compared to other weapons

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Like comparing type 100 to fast ZK

minor jacinth Jan 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Every Medic plays with the Typ 2 A

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KEKW

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Hey jer! How you doing ?

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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fine fine ^^, you? 😄

maiden sparrow Jan 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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easy to use guns should still be in the game, but a good player should be better with something else

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Oh wait, probably removing polished action from the spec tree would be alright

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Feeling pretty crap, woke up at 2 pm

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:49 PM

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awwh

minor jacinth Jan 20, 2020, 12:50 PM

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I still whoop their asses with my suomi

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 12:50 PM

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no rsc smg
no chauchat
why live

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Maybe the Type 2A should lose quick aim as well

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Doesnt really make the weapon harder to use, but it'll lose milliseconds against other SMGs

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:52 PM

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The only thing it should lose is recoil imo

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Or gain recoil more like

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It's pretty easy to laser people at 50m

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:52 PM

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Nah, the recoil is fine I think

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Maybe if it had slightly more hrec

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:52 PM

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Does little damage but it stacks up

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Idk, BFV doesnt really have a way for weapons to increase hrec just because of the spread-to-recoil conversion

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So increasing hrec would just increase screenshake, which sucks

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:53 PM

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So maybe increasing spread

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This is the one gun I wouldn't mind it tbh

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 12:54 PM

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spread and reload changes i can get behind.

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Increasing spread would work in BF1 because theres no spread-to-recoil

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BFV just guts spread changes because having too much spread means more screenshake recoil

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Its really annoying

rancid burrow Jan 20, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Type 2a skillcannon

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Spread is tied by recoil?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Recoil is tied to spread

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The camera follows your bullets because of spread-to-recoil

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So the gun literally determines where your screen goes, not you

rancid burrow Jan 20, 2020, 12:55 PM

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It’s very difficult to use 1000rpm 50 round mag

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Everyone’s saying it

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 12:56 PM

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There's the recoil pattern the camera follows and there's the random bullet spread

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Like in cs

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Or that'a how I remember it

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:56 PM

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But recoil in games makes your screen move

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They always do

minor jacinth Jan 20, 2020, 12:56 PM

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and I didnt miss that quickscope sniper in close combat

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Ahhh

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Alt +f4

uneven hollow Jan 20, 2020, 12:57 PM

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We need a jap assault gun

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:57 PM

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But the difference is that the recoil in BFV works differently to other games because the recoil in BFV follows where your bullets go

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Its not the camera that dictates where the bullets go, other than the first shot

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Is that... Bad?

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I don't really know

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Yeah

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Its why SARs dont have hrec

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Because you'd get screenshake every time you click

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 12:59 PM

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So ok

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In a game like BF1

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The recoil is based off of

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Where?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I think its just screen recoil that's independent of spread

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Jap assault weapon would be type 4

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Or type 5

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What ever that was

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:01 PM

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But BFV makes it so that the recoil is based off of where the last bullet was fired

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So the recoil is more like a randomly generated pattern

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Yes

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The camera will follow the spread of the bullets

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Rather than a lot of spread with linear recoil making the bullets disperse a lot

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But not move much

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Yeah if I've got the right idea it should be like that yeah

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:03 PM

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So what should BFV use instead

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Because I think spread to recoil increase is a good idea

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Regular spread, with no spread-to-recoil

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:04 PM

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It usually punishes magdumping but in a more in your face way

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Spread is more subtle

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I think you notice spread to recoil the most if you hipfire into ads

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Since by hipfiring you let the spread reach its peak

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Also holy shit I just remembered

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Yeah

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:06 PM

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In BF1 you can set recoil balance

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Bias

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From left, centered and right

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Yeah

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I forgot about that actually

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Which means that recoil is independent of spread

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Also I just watched some gameplay of the Type 2A

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It looks fun but not really that much more amazing than just using a light bolt Suomi and reloading alot

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But the fact that it doesnt have much vertical recoil is really nice

novel blaze Jan 20, 2020, 1:09 PM

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suomi bas

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bad

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 1:09 PM

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"watch some gameplay" you haven't played with it, razen? ;D

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:09 PM

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No

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Why would I

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I dont enjoy the game

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 1:09 PM

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It's literally the suomi with more bullets less ttk and less reload speed lmao

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:10 PM

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I wish light Tommy was better than suomi

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I remember Tommy used to do better damage

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Ages ago

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At launch

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Because.45 ACP

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But then they nerfed it

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Alright I think I have an idea of how to "nerf" the Type 2A

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Get rid of light bolt because its unnecessary, replace light bolt with polished action

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:11 PM

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What does polished action do

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Its a hipfire upgrade

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:11 PM

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So an ADS 50 round tree

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And a 30 round hipfire tree

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Or even then, get rid of polished action, reduce the reload speed, and add quick reload as a spec, which brings it back up to what it is now

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:12 PM

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I wish quick reload was on a gun to gun basis rather than just always 15%

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Well, even then 15% is a decent amount

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And having more than 15% would just make reload speeds really inconsistent

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Like between spec and non-spec

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Yeah on some guns I never change the spec like on Stg 1-5 and STEN

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Which I both have on hipfire

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Yeah

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:15 PM

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And when I turn it off

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Oh yeah Type 2A actually has the fastest reload between that, Suomi and Thompson

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:15 PM

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I really notice the sluggish reload

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Interesting

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:16 PM

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It's wierd because I look at what's different between STEN and MP40

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And the biggest difference is STEN shoots a slightly faster bullet

barren zenith Jan 20, 2020, 1:16 PM

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lol

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Thats fantastic

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Which goes against how I've always specced them

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I've always made STEN out as hipfire

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And MP40 as ADS

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Even though they should be the other way around

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Well the MP40 has better ADS accuracy than the STEN

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But only marginally

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:19 PM

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I felt like they could have given STEN less v rec and more h rec

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While MP40 is other way around

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To make them more different

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Maybe

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It would be nice if the MP40/STEN maybe had a longer 4BTK range just to make up for the low hitrate

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Idk

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 1:23 PM

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I feel most smgs in the game are fine atm

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:24 PM

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They could've always had some improvements

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But they were alright

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@main grove I feel like I'm getting closer to working out a good reworked spec tree for the Type 2A

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Only problem is that I don't know if the spec tree layout is specifically laid out that way

novel blaze Jan 20, 2020, 1:28 PM

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i tried the fg 42 and why are people complaining

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:28 PM

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I actually sent that early whoops

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 1:28 PM

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It's 2020 and each class still only has 2 roles each

gray saffron Jan 20, 2020, 1:28 PM

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fg42 got fixed in 5.2.2. it was mweh in 5.2

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it ain't so bad now

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Its now for almost no recoil at all

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It is a laser

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But has a laser Pointer's damage

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:36 PM

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lol

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Oh yeah I forgot to mention

strong parrot Jan 20, 2020, 1:38 PM

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No recoil doesn't mean much when can't kill anything before they kill you.. even if you have the advantage haHAA

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:38 PM

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The reason SMGs feel like they dont have any vertical recoil

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Is because they have a vrec of 0

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For some at least

strong parrot Jan 20, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Nice balance

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:38 PM

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unless im reading it wrong

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but yeah

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Isn't it initial vrec

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That's 0

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It does gain some I'm sure

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Well, I'm looking at the numbers

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It says ADSStandRecoilUp 0

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actually wait

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I cant take screenshot

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i almost forgot

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Fg42 is ok but is outclassed by the BAR

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:42 PM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2020-01-21_at_12.42.41_am.png

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Type 2A / Thompson / Suomi

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Exact same recoil, damage, higher rpm overall (Fg and bar)

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Proof the Type 2A has the worst hrec

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Honestly. These subbies wouldnt be poorly balanced pre 5.2

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They'd be about the same

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 1:48 PM

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ooo pink bowodie

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:48 PM

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is 3x scopes on lmgs good

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Noot noot blackout

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 1:48 PM

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noot noot

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:48 PM

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I only use 3x on low rpm lmgs

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:48 PM

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!

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Scope would be acceptable on shit like lewis and bren

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Type 97 and madsen

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Yea i have 3x scope on bren and 97

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AA sight on fg42 and bar

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I wouldn't use a scope on the t97 personally

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I wouldn't use it at all actually unless you like the gun

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But if you do use it stick to short range

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I use irons on the fg42 and aa sight on bar

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

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My playstyle depends on the faction lol

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Faction specific weapon gang

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Eh

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Cant be bothered on that part

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I play defensive as brits and japs

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And offensive to american and german

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Like as brit or jap i go somewhere around the backline

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 1:50 PM

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On the offensive as germans in op. underground 🤔

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Fg42 (when it was good) on all factions wooo

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Yea i wonder how it felt lol

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:51 PM

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It was good

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:51 PM

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I only played a small part of 5.0

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During free weekend

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Didnt really got to play it much

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Would've been cool if the FG42 was a 4-5BTK

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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What did you get out of your small playtime

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Since it uses the same ammo as FG42/MG34/Kar98

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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@prime pine hackers

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Omegalol

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Fg42 was perfectly alright as a 4-6HK

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Yeah it was

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Oh boy hackers

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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But it would've been sick

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Feels bad to be asian

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FeelsMeowMan

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I always play NA with 160 ping

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I would've loved to see universal 4-5BTK for MMGS as well

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Other than the MG42

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

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m3 grease gun is like the only gun that feels honest to god powerful

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Which could just stay 4-6

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

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imo

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Yeah cause it has the least shit min damage

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

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M3 feels like 5.2.2 never dropped

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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i sadly never got to experience the game pre-5.2 pensivewiggle

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cos I only very recently got a ps4

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Well, guns did more damage

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All was well

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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and wanted to get back into battlefield

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so I got both bf1 and bfv

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Guns werent as shit in a range

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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roebenter still shows old damage models

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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yeah I've seen gameplay

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looks a lot more enjoyable

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Fg 42 was 4-6 btk

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Garand was 3 to 4 btk

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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If you could control your damage. It wasnt all bad

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Not damage

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But recoil

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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people actually dropped quickly when you got a good flank off with a smg

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Also flares

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Man

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Flares should be map only

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Oh gid

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God

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I forgot the flare meta

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Not doritos above head

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

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The flare heavy meta

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

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People still drop pretty quickly with SMGs

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If you stick to pretty close range and use the right gun

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Werent subbies 4-7HK?

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

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i don't count the type 2a as a smg

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

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I dont want the flare gun gone but it should be adjusted

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

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it's a light mounted machine gun assault rifle submachine shotgun

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Even type 2a aside haha, the tommy and suomi are still good

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Minimap only spotting

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Flare gun is in a much better state right now

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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No doritos

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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At dropping people fast that is

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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SMGs were 4-8BTK

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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M3 is such a different experience to other guns though

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Now they are 4 to 10

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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pap pap pap

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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MP34 was the only 4-7

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Yeah the SMGs should be either 4-6BTK or 4-7BTK

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Funny how dice actually thought of 5 to 13 btk on a 20 round gun

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Not 4-10

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Omegalol

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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5 to 13?

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KEKWW

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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When 5.2 first released

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Fg42 was 5 to 13

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Lol

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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oh lord

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Then hotfixed to 4 to 9

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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4-9 is still shit btw

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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you might as well have turned it into the fg42 from the original call of duty

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Same with tommy

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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MOUNTAINS of upwards recoil

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you'd hit the moon by accident

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Cod 1 had fg 42?

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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yeah

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I dont remember picking up one

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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think it was singleplayer only

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not sure, it's been literal years

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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In single player games i always go bolt action

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Like in cod waw

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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oh it was a pickup weapon in mp

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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And any other ww2 cod

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Same with bf1

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Bolt action for max immersion

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Good thing bolt actions were actually good in BF1

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Only do it in story mode

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I dont even play recon

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 1:59 PM

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I really liked the bolt actions in bf1

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and the lever action russian 1895

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Yeah

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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just snipers and stuff in general

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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They actually killed people in BF1

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Every bolt action was equally viable

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Because of the sweetspots

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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in bf5 i've gotten countless close range hitmarkers with bolt actions

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Yeah cause the bolts in BFV are shit

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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I hs'ed a guy 3 times and he hackusated me

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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did they remove sweetspots

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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That was so funny

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Yes

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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sad

haughty pawn Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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play a round combined arms,pick a dropped weapon and you get a pre 5.2 btk,man that feels soooo nice...

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Because they were "too strong" I guess

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BFV is just an overall low power game

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BF1 was peak for weapon balance and fun gunplay

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After TTK2.0

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:01 PM

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WaitWhat

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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OMEGALUL

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Buddy revives werent 100 hp back in beta right?

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Its onlt like 40hp

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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i really don't like the bleed out system

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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The bleed out is just weird

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Cant dent a revive

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Yeah its a huge flaw

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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You can deny a revive, just hold the fire button

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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You just get killed, then some idiot medic comes over and tries to rev you

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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i now get to watch the ally medic fuck off to golmud railway or something

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or they walk right into the person who got me

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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And you cant deny fast enough sometimes

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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@icy sluice what

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you can?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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BF4 deny revive was peak

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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probably means bleeding out faster

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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The revive systems are literally the same, just in BFV your camera isn't fixated on the person that killed you lmao

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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The revive systems are not the same

open surge Jan 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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but now I get to see the silhouette of my idiot medic

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pensivewiggle

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as he walks into the enemy chi-ha

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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I think when you get revived there should be "press space to stand up"

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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You also get to see what is around you so you can do callouts

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You could also just redeploy if you're unhappy with the revive

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and want to die

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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I don't really see a problem with the current revive scheme

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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I mean yeah, but thats still like 2.5 seconds you have to watch yourself get revived

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Redeploy will make you sit 10 secs on deploy screen

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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And medics can revive-cancel if they feel like griefing

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Dead players cant choose to cancel a revive during the animation

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Redeploy is the best thing to do in modes like conquest or if you just want to deny the enemy a kill lol

raw orbit Jan 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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What I hated in bf1 and is still present in bf1 is that you can't just go to the redeploy screen instantly. You have to hold a button for like 5 second every single time

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Most of the time a revive cancel happens is either by accident or someone is coming up on you.

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Yeah

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Also, redeploy doesnt have confirmation button

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Misclicked in many times already

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:06 PM

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It's good that you can cancel the revive

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Trying to cbange squads

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:06 PM

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No like, infinite revive cancelling to revive-lock dead players

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Cause you cant opt out

tough lodge Jan 20, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Unlike in bf4 you had "are you sure you want to redeploy?"

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Yeah, revive accept was a really good system

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BFV should've used needles to revive like in BF1

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Because once the medic's done his job, thats it

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Uh

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:07 PM

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You still do really

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There's just an animation for it

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:07 PM

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And the dead player should have the option to accept it or deny it like in BF4

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I remember

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:07 PM

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They do use needles lmao. They don't stab a bicycle pump in your arm

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Thats not what I meant at all

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Dude

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I mean the gadget

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Not the fuckin animation

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I watch watching ravics bf5's beta footage. While he was down his killer was highlighted in red

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And he witnessed that fucking enemy stab his squadmate

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I'd rather we keep the smoke grenade launcher and being able to heal as well as revive

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I use smoke grenades personally

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Less range but much quicker

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Full smoke

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5 smokes

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Much lung cancer

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Every class right now require a gadget that plays their role.
Assault always has something against vehicles
Medics is always able to heal and revive
Support always has ammo to give out
Recon always has something to spot with

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:10 PM

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I barely even use the launcher

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:10 PM

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I use it for advancing

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Unless im out of grenades

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Yeah plus the ranfe

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Range

worthy hornet Jan 20, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Hey guys. Whenever I play BF5 (PS4) while using the tank, the tank always moves to the right side whenever the tank does not move. It makes it impossible for me to hit any shots. Any help?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:10 PM

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I still think that medics should have a needle gadget to revive with

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:10 PM

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I just fire the launcher at the place i presume enemies are

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Maybe if you just equip the toolbox it would have the same effect

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You stab a player and they get the option to accept or deny the revive

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I would rather that than a 2.5 second animation that I have no control over

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:11 PM

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What actually is the benefit of this with bf5s revive system

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:11 PM

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So you can choose to not be revived by a medic if they get to you before you can bleed out by yourself

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:11 PM

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They aren't going to change the fact that revives have an anim, something known before the beta

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Which is really shit

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Cause the animation sucks

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:12 PM

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I like this revive system. Its not as ludicrously fast

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:12 PM

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It helps stop Rambo Reviving

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Cooldowns stopped the rambo revive

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Which is what medics had

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Cooldown was really, really short

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:12 PM

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And people still rambo revive in BFV

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Using smoke grenades

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So nothing has changed

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:12 PM

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It is still possible yes, but it's now longer

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:12 PM

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If anything (this pertains to bf1 more) the needle should've acted more like the defib paddles since there's an anim of the player character drawing out more revive juice

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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I like knifing people who are reviving

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Also the animation limits visibility

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Which is really shit

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Because the last thing you want when trying to help someone is not being able to see shit

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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It's meant to have risk

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Buddy revives are nice

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Thats not really a risk when people just throw smokes

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The idea doesnt exactly get across

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To medics

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Medics had like a 3-5 second cooldown lmao

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Just dump your ammo downrange until you can revive like 10 people again

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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I swear I remember reviving like 5 guys in like 3 seconds in BF1 several times

worthy hornet Jan 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Hey guys. Whenever I play BF5 (PS4) while using the tank, the tank always moves to the right side whenever the tank does not move. It makes it impossible for me to hit any shots. Any help?

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:14 PM

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You only get 2 revives before the cooldown starts

lilac umbra Jan 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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i have same issue

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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The needle says 2/2 where the ammo counter is

lilac umbra Jan 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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its eiter way deadzone or controller is drifting

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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I feel like the cooldown was faster when in the radius of an ammo box

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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I dont think it was

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But it couldve been so I wont say anything more about that

worthy hornet Jan 20, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@lilac umbra Thing is though this happens on both of my controllers

lilac umbra Jan 20, 2020, 2:16 PM

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then its deadzone i guess

worthy hornet Jan 20, 2020, 2:16 PM

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What procentage should I make it? I already made axial to the max on both

rancid burrow Jan 20, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Hello

lilac umbra Jan 20, 2020, 2:16 PM

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i had lowest so maybe in mid way

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Lets see if my internet is working tonight

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I keep on saying it but i want that fucking dragon bundle. I just want to get my pacific weapons with dragon so i dont have to get anything again.

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Nice

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Default percentage on deadzone is usually the way to go

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Usually

prime pine Jan 20, 2020, 2:18 PM

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It probably wont even be released

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Dragon skins for guns?

shy badger Jan 20, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Yea

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Tatsu

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Well the idea that medic could have a choice to not use revives in BF1 was kinda frowned upon

pastel grove Jan 20, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Shit, I stayed up so fucking late that all the Europeans and Australians are up and active in this Discord

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Omegalol

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 2:20 PM

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In BF4 you could get away with it because the class was called "assault"

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 2:20 PM

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laughs in BF4 bugged knife animations

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Laughs in burning country

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😩

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 2:20 PM

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tbh BF4 is a massive unbalanced bug

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:20 PM

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📎 ENHWi0DWwAAg0_g.png

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📎 ENHWiz1W4AIgq60.png

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Tatsu skins

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:20 PM

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just one large bug of undless proportions

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Shame theres no CC skins for pacific weapons

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Shame there are skins for weapons at all lmao

icy sluice Jan 20, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Would've loved to see Chromed Finish or Blued on the Grease Gun

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Whatever gets the cash flowing I guess

solid hinge Jan 20, 2020, 2:21 PM

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did EA decide how to monetize game?

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or the dev studio

solid carbon Jan 20, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Shame that all good skins are locked behind boins

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Subjective

stoic breach Jan 20, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Dev studio

main grove Jan 20, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Publisher sets the goals and studio decides how to reach them