tribal wave
IM SO HAPPY
#battlefield-legacy-titles
coral fiber
stoic breach
GREASY
solid hinge
can some one play battlefield 1 with me
wild jacinth
@coral fiber this is de whey meh brutha
solid hinge
people who play slug shotguns are legends
wild jacinth
my brutha ebola is not de whey
so whats going on in firestorm what kind of hacks are people using?
its almost like people are just snapping on you.
wild jacinth
aim>
quasi aspen
@tough lodge LMAO the forbidden words in china
they 99% pissed and will fight u back in the chat
@solid hinge people who play azur lane are legends
solid hinge
@quasi aspen les gooo ✌️
tough lodge
PSA: if you type "shine" in ingame chat it will be censored
solid hinge
the 15 grease gun headshot mission fuckin sucks
how am i supposed to aim to the head when all the enemy are medics
using the type 2a
meager spoke
Nah
solid hinge
breakthrough sucks
meager spoke
Breakthrough sweat capital
solid hinge
always one sided
solid hinge
OOOHH i got one
pastel grove
nice
shy badger
It's 2 hsk up to 20m
wild jacinth
accidently
shy badger
Hsk- head shots (to) kill Btk- bullets to kill
wild jacinth
all hax
solid carbon
Are the servers working again? 
hoary condor
Haven't not worked 
tough lodge
Type 2a should have been a battle pick up
hoary condor
it's so OP had so much fun with it yesterday
tough lodge
1028
shy badger
/1200
tough lodge
Can be boosted to 1200
shy badger
pocket mg42
shy badger
what
tough lodge
i sent no to wrong server
Sorry
Why use mg42 when you cant ads it
I already forgot what hamada looks like without the storm
stoic breach
Is Type 2A actually getting nerfed to 800rpm
half wolf
I've already forgotten what this game looks like without cheaters.
stoic breach
Surely thats a joke
half wolf
@stoic breach to be entirely honest there's no way to balance the Type 2A in the current TTK.
sleek musk
i didnt get the gun so i dont really care
half wolf
And would be totally on track with DICE's track record balancing guns.
stoic breach
Lol you right
half wolf
But also the super high ROF does not play well with the BF5 dogshit netcode.
Almost every kill is with a "super bullet" making people feel like they were oneshot.
Because on their end, in the netcode, they were/
half wolf
they knew this and yet still added a gun that simply is broken with the current infrastructure of the game.
half wolf
How could you balance it for 5.2
stoic breach
Either remove light bolt, or remove extended mag and lower the reload speed
half wolf
Also increase hipfire spread
stoic breach
Because right now its a worse Suomi thats slightly easier to use because of the default 31 round mag
half wolf
Suomi feels like it has worse hrec
stoic breach
Its just a feeling
Suomi actually has better hrec than the Type 2A
Better hipfire as well
Actually
50 round mag should be removed
misty plinth
I really dont feel the 2A is that OP. I cant speak for console but I constantly out duel it with other guns
stoic breach
Keep light bolt, but drop thr reload speed, and give a spec that raises the reload speed back to what it is now
Yeah its not OP
fluid tusk
I blame the community
stoic breach
But it is irritating
misty plinth
Its no worse than the Tommy or the suomi or type 100 imo
it has awkward recoil at range as well
also everyone is using the new guns when they come out so you're likely only dying to it so much because EVERYONE is using it
the ZH is a dumb ass no skill gun thats been the same since launch and no one whines about it
stoic breach
ZH isn't overpowered
misty plinth
It takes no skill
stoic breach
It probably needs a buff
tawny isle
I wait a few months before playing with any new guns :)
misty plinth
compared to other guns
stoic breach
Who cares if its no skill
misty plinth
m8 it 2 shots at any range with no recoil lol
stoic breach
Yeah whats wrong with that?
misty plinth
No skill
stoic breach
Who cares
misty plinth
Me
stoic breach
Its low risk low reward
misty plinth
it has high reward
stoic breach
Ez weapon for occasional ez kills
misty plinth
2 shots for a kill is really good
stoic breach
You can only get max 3 kills before reloading
misty plinth
you can win almost any duel
stoic breach
Its really not an amazing weapon
misty plinth
thats the same for nearly every gun
except with other guns you have to land more shots
and have more recoil
the ZH doesnt
compare it to the RSC and the ZH makes no sense
the RSC takes 3 shots to kill at distance and you have to reload it twice to get max ammo capacity
and it has more recoil
stoic breach
RSC has its own problems
misty plinth
Yes which is why im saying the ZH needs to be balanced properly
theres no reason to use any other SLR than the ZH
you're ok with that?
stoic breach
The ZH is balanced properly, if the ZH got nerfed at all it would be shit
Yes
The other SLRs should get buffed
stoic breach
Relative power for relative distances
RSC being 2-3BTK is fine
RSC being 2BTK only up to 50m is not
misty plinth
man console players are weird
stoic breach
"Console" is a really lame argument, you know
shy badger
I always complained about the ZH and 1906
stoic breach
It doesnt actually prove anything
shy badger
Both being 2 shot kill at any range with a better muzzle velocity than the fastest bolties seems stupid
misty plinth
^^^^
stoic breach
"Skill" is such a buzzword these days
shy badger
It's a no brainer compared to bolties
misty plinth
console players have ai massist
stoic breach
Do you expect it to be some incredibly difficult weapon to use
stoic breach
Lol why
shy badger
Only reasons one would use bolties is they're incredibly good at hitting HS or simply like using them
stoic breach
How would it even be more difficult to use
stoic breach
Less bullet velocity and it would be abysmal to use
misty plinth
make players need to be patient to hit 2 shots instead of brain dead spamming away
thats why its a 2 shot kill
2 shot kill is never abysma
stoic breach
Thats just an artificial barrier
misty plinth
maybe you're just bad?
stoic breach
Players having to limit themselves to fire slower
solid hinge
...
solid hinge
What gun are you talking about?
misty plinth
ZH
shy badger
zh and 1906
solid hinge
Oh.
misty plinth
they are so easy to use
stoic breach
It wouldn't matter if I was amazing or horrible at the game, I'm not concerned about that
misty plinth
It would explain why you think Zh is a balanced gun
warm portal
guys
warm portal
did you ever have a server just switch game modes?
misty plinth
everyone here thinks its a chese gun lol
warm portal
i was on a conquest server and next map it transforms into breakthrough
lol, wT
wat
misty plinth
probably in the pacific playlist
warm portal
yep
warm portal
weird lol
stoic breach
I've thought about the ZH getting nerfed
But if it did get nerfed really hard it would be shit to use
misty plinth
It has no negatives compared to other guns in the class
i never said nerfed really hard
lower the bullet velocity and make the recoil a bit more oomph
stoic breach
Good case for other guns getting buffed
misty plinth
then you need to have skill to control it
how would you buff the RSC
why would you want every gun to be no skill?
stoic breach
Increase 2BTK range to 70m, increase the speed of recoil decrease
misty plinth
I use it so much still
stoic breach
I would apply that to every SLR so you dont lose milliseconds of control over the scope every time you fire
misty plinth
I like it
warm portal
is rsc worse than model 8?
misty plinth
but the ZH out performs it in every way
warm portal
havent played rsc yet, but im doing fine with model 8
stoic breach
The recoil can be as high as you want it to be as long as recoil decrease was faster and snappier
warm portal
ofcourse not as good as zh or selbstlader 06
misty plinth
ZH needs to have its recoil increased
it can stay a 2 shot gun
so its unique
also 70 meters 2 shot is basically turning the RSC into a ZH
misty plinth
The ZH should be unique in that it kills in 2 bullets but it should be harder to control
stoic breach
70m is what the RSC was in Battlefield 1
misty plinth
the RSC should be easier to control but have more shots to kill
stoic breach
Yeah
stoic breach
RSC should be buffed to the equivalent of BF1
In BFV
Because its pozzed right now
misty plinth
Different games
idle breach
wot does zh stands for
idle breach
yeah I agree
stoic breach
Spread only punished if you couldn't control the trigger
misty plinth
That game needs to stay in the pit of hell where it belongs
spread is OK but incredibly random spread is not
stoic breach
If you magdumped in BF1 you got fucked because you werent supposed to magdump
It was incredibly random if you couldnt control it
misty plinth
random spread is impossible to control
misty plinth
which is regarded as the game with the worst gunplay in the series lol
stoic breach
Then suddenly people suddenly complain BF1 is too hard because of RNG
When that was the point, challenging gunplay
idle breach
cant we have just a working vidya game with already existing things in franchise
stoic breach
You seem to think it's challenging, yourself
random spread is impossible to control
I would agree with this, but apparently you forgot what you said
stoic breach
Idk
shy badger
I did see a Dice dev saying how he thinks the most unfair complaint about bf1 was about the gunplay being too random
According to him, if you use a weapon the right way and in the right range it isn't random
idle breach
eh
shy badger
But I find that way too limiting, you can't control all your engagements in bf
idle breach
yeah
shy badger
That's just the nature of the game
idle breach
that's the point of entire series
shy badger
Let me at least have a chance to kill someone at a range the gun isn't supposed to be good at
Instead of just making it down to luck
idle breach
it's like they're thinking gun balance in like
not in actual BF but more confined space
hoary condor
rip when 3 tanks are only going for me
half wolf
Gun balance is "you shouldn't be able to ever win fights outside of your intended range"
hoary condor
idle breach
with more "controlled" environment
shy badger
It's sure easier to balance weapons that way
idle breach
yeah I agree "being able to pick a fight and keep your ideal range should give you massive advantage" but pre 5.2 was doing fine. just some guns were overpowered and some were underpowered
stoic breach
Well in BF1 you arent supposed to use SMGs at range other than Ribeyrolles or RSC SMG
idle breach
no need to just bland the entire category into similar things and make them near useless outside certain range
shy badger
True, and neither in bfv
stoic breach
BF1 handles it better being spread based though
shy badger
But if you did that in bfv it was more down to who could aim better
stoic breach
Which is how BFV used to be
stoic breach
In BFV its down to who gets fucked over less by the stupid recoil system
BFV's recoil is more intuitive, yes
shy badger
rn there is no recoil system
idle breach
it's already a shittier option compared to just bombing
shy badger
hehe
solid hinge
I wonder what news we’re gunna get on chapter 6
idle breach
I'm good with easy recoil
stoic breach
Because in BFV no recoil means no spread
idle breach
I mean I'm fine with easy recoil
stoic breach
Easy recoil is great because its intuitive
idle breach
yeah
stoic breach
But what they should do is stop using spread-to-recoil
Because spread gets converted to recoil, your bullets dictate where your gun points
idle breach
I don't want to spend hours and hours just shooting in the wall to learn the pattern like fps games from ago
stoic breach
And in 5.2, no recoil means that spread is too consistent
idle breach
totally
stoic breach
Yeah thats fine, spread patterns are boomer shit most of the time
shy badger
I like spread patterns personally
I feel rewarded after learning a certain spread pattern
sorry not spread
recoil
stoic breach
I think understanding the way spread can act is good enough
Yeah
Like, I wouldnt want 5.2 to get reverted
idle breach
since bf series is kinda more chaotic than most of the other shooters
stoic breach
Because it means bringing back screenshake recoil
stoic breach
I would prefer if recoil consisted mostly of the camera being in near one spot, but range is dictated by hrec
idle breach
the bugs and stupid vehicle balances were enough reason for me to hate 5.2
shy badger
Vehicle balance in bfv is too wack
idle breach
tbh releasing big patch right before going a long vacation is just purely idiotic
they shouldve just delayed it
shy badger
They probably hoped we'll get used to it
idle breach
not like 5.2 had many content to match up with holiday season
shy badger
And the rest they'll just fix later
idle breach
how can we get used with fucking disconnected with servers and not getting progression lol
shy badger
I mean to the gunplay haha
shy badger
It's sad really
idle breach
many games bash their own head in the floor
shy badger
I was so optimistic about it at first
idle breach
some games just DIES some games just "ooh okay I got it" and move on like no mans sky
bfv is one of the weird case
most of the games with "unfinished" release, most of the time they goes
- fuck it let's run away and begin working on new games
- shit let's fix it quick
- okay let's fix it proper, it would take long but we're gonna do it
bfv did none of that they are just
I dunno it's so surreal
doesn't even make ANY sense
keeping all those unreleased but leaked contents? I think it means they kinda want to make this game living but also experiencing hard time making new stuff meanwhile made a pacific front without half-finishing the european one
without any changes things keep breaking by itself like skyrim with 150+ mods added on
raw orbit
They're doing all at the same time is what's happening
They're trying to fix it and make it a different game at the same time
idle breach
such werid
half wolf
@stoic breach aight I'd like an explanation as to why I'm still so good with the FG42 despite it being dogshit
solid carbon
This thing has almost recoil now
solid hinge
What do you guys think will be the focus of chapter 6
solid carbon
Bugfixes 
solid hinge
I hope naval warfare is introduced
solid hinge
Idm if we don’t get a battleship as a squad calling or anything but I hope we get destroyers and pt boats
fluid tusk
Most Likely, DICE's funding was cut due to poor sale
s
so technically, they probably do have the budget of an indie company at the moment
I mean, its not like they have premium or DLC to fall back on
they just have cosmetics and chapter boosters
people are boycotting both.
so at this point, DICE is stuck with very little funding and yet people expect BF4/1 levels of content
🤷🏾
sounds like BFV is stuck with a catch 22
I blame the community just as much as DICE for this issue
prime pine
People would spend their money on the armoury if we got old shit
fluid tusk
you say that, but when we had the "old shit" people complained about wanting it purchasable with company coin
fluid tusk
I mean it makes sense, Boins are what fund new content
fluid tusk
if you didn't have enough money to fund content, wouldnt you worry about pushing something that did make you money first?
prime pine
If they brought out a white tiger bundle for every weapon. Would you imagine people buying it?
hoary condor
boins i agree with, again as you said, it funds new content. But it makes CC pointless
fluid tusk
we have had several new CC sets in the armory.
hoary condor
i only saw like 2 lol
fluid tusk
so its not like CC was left out to draw
fluid tusk
they arent "locked"
just being put in bundles in order to entice the people who want to be the first to have them
as for the "2" that squid mentioned, the last few armory rotations have had several CC japanese & US cosmetics
neither were part of bundles
each was 6,200 CC
prime pine
Excluding the christmas hat, we've been getting common outfits. Not rare outfits. If they gave us the nomad outfit through that it would be a lot more fair.
fluid tusk
so they are offering content for those who want to use CC only. but currently they are trying to put BOINS at the forefront, most likely in order to fund Chapter 7's content
which could very well be a russia based chapter
meager spoke
Cc og
Never pay real money fortniters
When u pay for skins but its a first person game
fluid tusk
exactly, we dont know. but from the information we can gather, it seems BFV preformed poorly enough to lose support of both Criterion and DICE LA
not to mention getting the FIFA guy thrown at them
prime pine
Criterion were third party. They only came in for fire storm.
fluid tusk
Criterion is owned by EA
meager spoke
Firestorm suk
prime pine
Welll thats one thing i know now. But i still remember their main focus was firestorm then they went out
fluid tusk
who knows, most likely if BFV continues to do poorly, EA will shut them down like they did Visceral
prime pine
Honestly
meager spoke
Wuts visceral
meager spoke
Is that like viscera clean up
meager spoke
Boo
fluid tusk
DICE devs didnt fuck it up, higher ups who wanted to see profit margins raised most likely did
prime pine
How do you get more money by angering the community. I dont know.
fluid tusk
the FIFA way, dumbing down the game in order to attract the new players & casuals in the hopes of getting whales
fluid tusk
mhm
a lot of the recent developments and changes make sense when you factor him into the equation
prime pine
Factor the fuckhead basically
meager spoke
I like battlefield
fluid tusk
We are basically witnessing a "The beatings will continue until morale improves" moment
meager spoke
Wut r u guys talkin bout
prime pine
Whats the name of the guy again
meager spoke
What does he do
main grove
Why is it that on conquest I can go like 40-7 but on breakthrough I always go 18-15
meager spoke
Ye
main grove
Why the fuck do I struggle so much on breakthrough
fluid tusk
hes currently EA's golden boy. so he basically gets free reign over how he treats the sub divisions, as long as he makes a profit for the company
main grove
No but it’s like
On breakthrough everyone just seems way better
Like they’re somehow able to tell what’s going on
fluid tusk
@main grove Breakthrough is a more tactical & linear game mode. You have more of a combined force to deal with unlike in conquest where everything is disjointed and everyone is on a personal journey
far more teamwork on breakthrough
prime pine
Breakthrough is fun
fluid tusk
which probably explains why your having a bit of trouble. people are generally co-ordinating on microphones as well
fluid tusk
i think its random
prime pine
Good god this rain is heavy
fluid tusk
ive had some rounds where I ran with the same squad previously, but ive also had some where the people who were kicking my ass somehow are on the same team as myself
auto balance is pretty schizophrenic
cerulean mantle
will they ever put the lunge mine in the game?
gloomy kraken
Even Battlefield Bulleting tweeted Its coming chapter 6
half wolf
Nothing like tanks going 143-2 and being nigh-unkillable and the moronic blueberries on my team refusing to try and focus it and kill it.
main grove
They can’t even if they tried
Only thing in the game that can reliably kill tanks now is planes built for it
fluid tusk
blame the tankers who complained
same with the AA & Flieger being nerfed
Pilots & Tankers made a big stink towards DICE about everything being OP
DICE listened and chanegd it, so now we are stuck with this until the problem can be changed again
🤷🏾
Listening to the community is a double edged sword
main grove
Flieger nerf was kinda needed
I can still use it
It just needs to be learned
You can still 90 damage planes with it
Before it had nearly no thought put into firing it
solid hinge
They broke tank armour
prime pine
It was too easy to use before. With the flieger
solid hinge
It's not intended to be entirely like this
prime pine
Hewwo ayla!
solid hinge
It's legit a bug/borked
prime pine
Im pink now!
prime pine
Cant wait till boom stick
solid hinge
breakthrough sucks
prime pine
What part of it dont you like?
solid hinge
rarely two sided
prime pine
You mean as in a close game?
prime pine
Community games isnt all too reliable
Its technically possible but
Its extremely rate
Rare
fluid tusk
someone just needs to start up a CG and advertise it
like what people were doing with the historically accurate thing
not too hard, just needs some effort
hoary condor
whole game round of operation undeground and the attackng team wasn't attacking
solid hinge
no i mean by both sides is our team not advancing through the first sector
solid hinge
which means either the attackers shred through the sectors or completely stoping
fluid tusk
only point is to farm kills to rank/level up
thats why Metro was so popular
people could farm massive amounts of XP off it
I used to do that shit too
then it became OP locker in BF4
Hardcore Op Locker 500% max tickets
could easily jump 10+ ranks through it with a 200%XP booster
@solid hinge PM me if your serious about milsim stuff, I have a chat for you that is dedicated to that sort of thing n BF
fluid tusk
sent
main grove
I’ve been fucking bayoneting everyone recently
Just bayoneted someone who jumped out of a Panzer 38t
queen canopy
Bayonets are the fucking best
main grove
Miss battlefield one where you could put a bayonet on about 70% of the guns in the game
queen canopy
Yeah but now no one expects to be bayoneted so it works way better
prime pine
I use the bayonet when possible
But i picked lightened stock over bayonet on the fg42 (when it was good)
queen canopy
I have a clip from around launch on Twisted Steel grand ops where I parachuted in and just bayoneted three people back to back
solid hinge
smokefield V
tribal kelp
русских нету?
solid hinge
Usually the other spec is significantly better than the bayonet
fluid tusk
Remember, No Russian
solid hinge
@tribal kelp English only pls
fluid tusk
looks like english to me
main grove
Lightened stock is kinda too powerful Imo
tribal kelp
i speak for mother russia
main grove
Not much reason to use it over any other spec
meager spoke
What does light stock do @main grove
fluid tusk
alright kaskap
prime pine
You're clearly speaking english now
main grove
Makes you move a lot faster when ADS
meager spoke
Ok
tribal kelp
идите нахуй
main grove
I kind of want beta spec trees again
meager spoke
Wuts that
main grove
But obviously better balanced
prime pine
Lightened stock isnt good for those who are not used to it
fluid tusk
its worse in COD
prime pine
I used bayonet on fg42 for a long time till switching to lightened stock
Stock on bo2 was nasty
fluid tusk
i mean its worse in COD
meager spoke
Call of duty?
fluid tusk
i use pistol only in BO2
prime pine
Eh
fluid tusk
FN 57 and 45
meager spoke
Wrong channel
prime pine
Executioner was a good ass secondary
hoary condor
mercury sucks sometimes
meager spoke
Everything sucks sometimes
main grove
Referring about another game for about a minute isn’t really grounds for moving to general
prime pine
Dont care that it wasnt a consistent OHK, Just double tap to make sure they're dead
fluid tusk
NARVIK, ROTTERDAM, TORRENCE!
meager spoke
Wuts torrence
queen canopy
It’s Torrence
meager spoke
Wuts thst
queen canopy
Torrence
meager spoke
Wuts torrence
queen canopy
Torrence
meager spoke
Whats that
queen canopy
It’s Torrence
fluid tusk
basically, Padawan is a bit younger than most people here
meager spoke
Whats torrence
queen canopy
Torrence
meager spoke
U sure?
queen canopy
Yes
meager spoke
Show torrence pic
queen canopy
meager spoke
Is that torrence
solid hinge
alright
queen canopy
Yes
meager spoke
Ok
queen canopy
Why angery
solid hinge
{breakthrough}
queen canopy
Why tho
meager spoke
Breakthrough bad
queen canopy
Breakthrough best
prime pine
Got it
half wolf
Every NA conquest match is a colossal stomp right now. And also it's 10am and there are 7 active NA servers at the moment. Oof.
prime pine
Its an ok gun
half wolf
That's not a great sign.
prime pine
I havent had an actual chance yet to test it out
solid hinge
its shit
icy sluice
You haven't used the Grease Gun yet Bodie?
stoic breach
M3 GREASY is probably one of the best SMGs in the game right now
icy sluice
I agree
stoic breach
Being able to 3BTK under 10m makes a big difference
Also having a max BTK of 7 helps as well, which is pretty much what all the SMGs should be at anyways
solid hinge
didnt mean it stats wise
stoic breach
What else matters other than stats
half wolf
It really does feel like shit, even if stats wise it's spicy.
If you can't hit regular headshots with it, it's bad.
icy sluice
It feels powerful
half wolf
If you miss 1 shot, you get ripped in CQB though.
So if you're not accurate its gonna feel weak.
On a side note, the FG42 feels very shreddy today.
stoic breach
Yeah the thing is, weapons shouldnt really be balanced too hard on headshots
icy sluice
I don't really have a problem using the M3 :p
stoic breach
It doesnt really need headshots to be good anyways
half wolf
Neither do I, but I prefer the higher ROF submachine guns.
stoic breach
If it had virtually no hrec and maybe increased vrec it could just get away with being a heavy SMG with a bit of kick
solid hinge
heick
stoic breach
Yeah
solid hinge
heck*
half wolf
Missing 1 shot has less of a penalty there.
solid hinge
type 2a feels better to use
stoic breach
Yeah cause of the magdump ability
icy sluice
Suppressor is also mad good on the Grease Gun
half wolf
Ehhhh
stoic breach
Suppressor almost sounds too good
In that it removes hitmarkers
Which sounds fucking cancer
icy sluice
I shot someone who was like level 150+ and I just saw him spasm out wondering how the fuck he got hit
stoic breach
But if its in the game then abuse the shit out of it I guess
half wolf
Lmao for some reason I can't join any servers anymore
stoic breach
Rip
fathom orchid
It’s because no
stoic breach
Yeah I'd still like to see the Type 2A get its 50 round mags removed, just because Suomi and Thompson already have them
Type 2A is just great as an easy to use but less effective Suomi
icy sluice
I find it funny that when the Lunge Mine gets added, you'll hear someone yell "FO' BRITANNIA!" before suiciding to take out a tank
stoic breach
That'll be fascinating
half wolf
@stoic breach only match I can get into is a 50-560 match where one side is just being utterly shitstomped
solid hinge
alright i admit
that one game of breakthrough was fun
cuz the top squad had no medics
queen canopy
All these mfs talking about how there’s no point in using anything besides Type 2A but I can get a 21 kill streak on B flag in Rotterdam with an MP-40
stoic breach
Yeah cause the MP40 is better than faster firing SMGs at range
icy sluice
Using the MP28 I went like 51 and 8 lol
stoic breach
You probably couldve done better by using a good SMG
icy sluice
Beating most Type 2As
queen canopy
What did 5.2 do to the MP28?
stoic breach
Yeah honestly at the end of the day, Type 2A is just a goofy weapon
queen canopy
I remember it shredded pre 5.2
haughty pawn
EMP 
queen canopy
EMP has always been underrated
stoic breach
I think its just the MP28 has really poo damage
haughty pawn
true
stoic breach
Remember when 5.2 first released, the EMP became like an S-tier SMG
Because it was one of the only SMGs that still had a 4BTK range
haughty pawn
ye,then came the 2a lul
solid hinge
@queen canopy les go mp40 squad ✌️
stoic breach
Yeah 2A is just goofy
solid hinge
emp still is good, decent damage up close and at range
queen canopy
Just my MP-40 irons and the spirit of der vaterland
haughty pawn
2a has a too high range and the nambu not enough 
main grove
Most Japanese automatics are Nambus
stoic breach
Yeah
queen canopy
What’s the Type 100 tho?
main grove
Nambu
stoic breach
Nambu Type 100
stoic breach
Isnt the T100 a 4BTK now
haughty pawn
dmg drop off of the m3 is just poop
prime pine
Yeah its a 4HK now
stoic breach
Kind of a wasted opportunity to have a 5BTK niche for Jap SMGs
haughty pawn
the 100 is 5btk
stoic breach
It used to be but apparently its now 4BTK
haughty pawn
or was the upper tier changed ?
solid hinge
sym says it's 5btk
prime pine
I like its current power
icy sluice
It's 5btk
stoic breach
Ok I was gonna say
prime pine
It was stated to have become a 4HK
queen canopy
Can we talk about semi autos for a minute?
stoic breach
What about them
haughty pawn
the 100 should be 1 bullete higher on low and hig tier compared to low rof smgs
solid hinge
yeah
queen canopy
Particularly the Turner and the Gewehr 1-5
prime pine
What needs to be said. We all know how much they suck.
solid hinge
take a rocket in the face for 33 damage
prime pine
Turner is the best semi
queen canopy
They feel soooo sluggish
prime pine
They do feel really bad indeed
queen canopy
Nah Turner is like 5 BTK at 20m or so
prime pine
Its a 3HK till 30M
haughty pawn
playing semis is for masochists nowadays
queen canopy
It used to be so fun to use, now it’s pretty bad
I’m not too upset about it, but I just hate how sluggish they are now
prime pine
The fire rate nerf and general damage nerf was too much for them
You could have solely reduced their rpm and they would have still been considered good
queen canopy
I could’ve lived with a damage nerf, but the fire rate nerf was just unneeded
solid hinge
20 mag 300rpm 3btk to 30m Turner is vaguely less effected than other semis but still ain't what it used to be
haughty pawn
dmg nerf is 1 thing,but as well the range....just sucks
prime pine
G 1-5 had more ammo but more recoil
main grove
360 rpm is kind of as fast as you can pull the trigger
Like unless you absolutely spam the fuck out of it won’t affect you
solid hinge
360rpm is reachable
queen canopy
Yeah the G 1-5 used to be such a fun weapon to use as well, but once again the fire rate nerf just ruined it
main grove
360 rpm was what the model 8 was in BF1
solid hinge
what are these symbols
prime pine
450 rpm just hurts your fingers
haughty pawn
getting hit by a semi?just slide away,no danger there
prime pine
It leaves a lot of freedom at least
solid hinge
If it doesn't get reached it makes the weapon suck though
stoic breach
AL8.35 was great
main grove
What weapon
stoic breach
I'm pretty sure it was a 3-3BTK 360rpm
solid hinge
these weapons have been trash since they came out
queen canopy
The G43 is still solid though
prime pine
M1a1 had a lot of recoil so 450 rpm sorta... Relegated it pretty close
main grove
Nah it went to 4 but at like 50-60m
solid hinge
People used semis all the time before the patch
stoic breach
Yeah still pretty fuckin good
prime pine
Yeah but literally you couldnt even spam it at 50 m
solid hinge
They were very much the opposite of trash
queen canopy
G43 and M1 Garand with heavy load are still powerful
haughty pawn
what i don't get,why do 95% of all recons use the ariska as bolt ?
queen canopy
Because Japan
prime pine
You fire it slowly and you're outclassed by G42's
*G43's
Which had better killing power than the m1a1 at a range
solid hinge
Pacific weirdo Patriots who only want to use weapons related to America
stoic breach
Cause people actually think the Arisaka is good
haughty pawn
the arisaka has a slow bullet velocity hasn't it ?
stoic breach
Its a limp shadow of its former BF1 self
haughty pawn
hmm ok
stoic breach
haughty pawn
i'm not really into bolts
prime pine
Me neither
main grove
Arisaka is statistically a worse G95
stoic breach
Yeah cause they suck
main grove
But the sound is
prime pine
But as someone who wants to get golden tags for every weapon
main grove
😩
prime pine
I gotta do it
haughty pawn
only thing i played was the kar
stoic breach
Yeah cause they dont have sweetspots they're all just shit Jungle Carbines
prime pine
If i wanted bolties i would go jungle carbine
haughty pawn
jungle is just cancer
prime pine
Which is on a better class. Sure i dont have flares or a spawn beacon but i can keep my self alive better.
stoic breach
Yeah, the bolt carbines should've been recon weapons
So they could buff bolt actions and leave bolt carbines as the "skillful" headshot clout weapons
haughty pawn
trombo and carbine are ok for medic,but jungle,wtf dice
stoic breach
Also probably buffing bolt carbines would be great
prime pine
Share boltie carbine with recon and medic
stoic breach
Yeah maybe
stoic breach
I like the idea of specific class weapons
Nah cause then you get weird class crossover
prime pine
Eh.
solid hinge
give the bolt actions +300 velocity and unrevivable headshots
stoic breach
Medic should be assault rifle, Assault should be SAR/SMG
solid hinge
now they have a role
prime pine
I would play medic a lot more if semis were on it
haughty pawn
but not to medics ffs lul
prime pine
If straight pulls were on bolties
Then i'd use them a lot more
But the scope is really disorientating. Especially when you play 3X on jungle carbine.
solid hinge
They have nothing to differentiate them at the moment
solid hinge
AT rifles have the infinite sweetspot and bolt carbines have the straight pull, that's why I want the bolties to have stupid high velocity and unrevivable headshots
stoic breach
Well bolt actions should have sweetspot and AT Rifles should be gadgets
Recon should get bolt carbines, but medic should be able to equip tromboncino grenade as a gadget
prime pine
Cyanide asked me a rather important question
stoic breach
Lol
prime pine
Would i rather AT rifles with forced prone or hardline styled snipers
I rather take at rifles
solid hinge
that gun should not be in the game
AT rifle gadget is naff you'll never change my mind
prime pine
Also you see how weirded out i was with the flying body ayla? Hahaha
haughty pawn
if only bipods would work properly
stoic breach
AT Rifle gadget could still require the bipod
solid hinge
i swear if medics get AT guns too im going to dice HQ shooting everyone
stoic breach
Primary weapons shouldnt require bipod
solid hinge
The ragdoll physics have been worse recently I swear
prime pine
I love ragdoll
Second later i recorded that some random german just flew over from the ridge
stoic breach
If AT Rifles remained as primary weapons they shouldnt need the bipod to fire
prime pine
Also not sure if anyone has seen this
Haha
I wish we got marksman bonuses from boltie carbines
stoic breach
Yeah another reason why all snipers should be in recon class
prime pine
Oh well
stoic breach
But yeah, bolt actions and bolt carbines getting buffed would be sweet imo
prime pine
Imma hit 5 k with the jungle carbine
solid hinge
oh my god
prime pine
And be happy with my life
stoic breach
Rip
solid hinge
is the fg42 a good weapon?
stoic breach
Breakthrough made the game bearable to me
solid hinge
58 bad
solid hinge
iwo sucks in all game modes tbh
i dislike all the Pacific maps
the vehicles suck
wake island is awesome
thats it
haughty pawn
wake is the worst
haughty pawn
balance of sliced bread
stoic breach
Yeah
solid hinge
my biggest complaint is the rocks
stoic breach
I hated the Pacific DLC so much that I rage uninstalled the game
solid hinge
the rocks are a bitch to move through
prime pine
Wake island is the best on conquest
solid hinge
Every single time I play a Pacific map there's enemies vehicles fucking everywhere and blowing one up means almost nothing because they respawn in 5 seconds
stoic breach
I havent even played Wake Island
prime pine
Iwo jima is the worse one on conq
Pacific island ironically is the best on conq and break
solid hinge
iwo worst on breakthrough
Why suffer through taking down someone in a plane when they're back in 10 seconds
haughty pawn
planes/vehicles should be limited
prime pine
Iwo doesnt have good flow on conq
stoic breach
Anti-vehicle should just be stronger
strong parrot
you act like at is bugged or something and tanks are a pain to take down..oh wait
haughty pawn
yeah,AA still needs a huge buff
solid hinge
no AV shouldnt be stronger
iwo turns into spawn camp
then all the tanks would pussy out
prime pine
AA's are really fine where they are
solid hinge
wake island breakthrough gives Americans 8 tanks so fuck that
haughty pawn
easy to say as a pilot lul
prime pine
Pilots are gonna kill you regardless
stoic breach
Yeah, now if only Support had the FF instead of Assault
haughty pawn
frustrating af
solid hinge
tanks should be more mobile and AT should be stronger
prime pine
Yeah. Easy to say because i have been fired at hundreds of times by AA'S
I have used AA's themselves too
They are easy to use
stoic breach
Support would get a nice launcher, and Assault players could still have their rockets equipped
stoic breach
Win for everyone
haughty pawn
it's so easy to sneak up an aa ank kill it
prime pine
But hard against a pilot who knows what they are doing
solid hinge
my problem with AA is that i don't get hitmarkers from it
so i cant figure out where it's coming from
if only the support gets the bazooka
because im a pleb
haughty pawn
rebuff fliegerfaust fffs
stoic breach
Yeah honestly
prime pine
Oh you mean hit indicator
stoic breach
The whole point was that people could solo-deter planes
prime pine
Ayla
solid hinge
i imagine that they goin to add AA and anti tank for medics
prime pine
I have that exact same issue
stoic breach
Multiple people using FF is still gonna get you killed anyways
solid hinge
half the time I only notice im being damaged because my health bar is suddenly red
haughty pawn
i hardly see any fliegerfaust anymore at all
solid hinge
true
prime pine
Because people have to actually aim with ot
solid hinge
Flieger doesn't need to be better vs planes, it needs to be better vs ground units
prime pine
It
stoic breach
Yeah, the gadget of the week is no longer popular
solid hinge
No one uses it because it wastes your gadget slot
magic vine
Anywhere German?
prime pine
Its hilarious seeing people on underground use the flieger
stoic breach
Yeah thats why it should be a support gadget
solid hinge
then no one will pick the piat and the other shitty launcher
prime pine
You're pushing and some random blueberry just fires it
solid hinge
Piat will always have a place
meager spoke
Is piat gud
solid hinge
Fliegerfaust just shouldn't be literally useless on ground targets
meager spoke
Is it a kill with a direct hit
prime pine
I'd stream and show how i fly
stoic breach
Support could replace their mines/AT pistol with a launcher
prime pine
Myself
haughty pawn
piat is the best thing left
stoic breach
That would be really fucking good
prime pine
Dont get rid of at pistol
haughty pawn
since panzerfaust does poop dmg
solid hinge
Make it do minor damage to vehicles and actually hurt people
meager spoke
If u hit a person with piat does it kill em @haughty pawn
stoic breach
AT pistol should get alot of max ammo and be able to OHK people again
solid hinge
I don't think support should get gadgets with decent range
stoic breach
There was no reason to make AT pistol deal only 98 damage
prime pine
And show how i fly
stoic breach
When it barely does any splash
solid hinge
Poor AT pistol
AT pistol?
what is this
They removed the OHK things for no reason
haughty pawn
at pistol is actually better than the panzerfaust now imo lul
prime pine
Literally
stoic breach
DICE is just neutering everything
haughty pawn
if you're close at least
stoic breach
The game is now dickless
prime pine
Its protecting the fucking idiots who cant even do it right
stoic breach
Yeah
solid hinge
i bet they all play medic